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Uh On set. you just have to press it again. Yeah, just

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just just do it again. Okay.

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It's going Okay, cool. Yep, we should be live.

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I am actually really excited about this video because on the one hand, it's um

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really cool server gear from our buds over at Seagate and 45 drives, but on

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the other hand, it's a project that has kind of a personal element to it for me.

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So, uh if you guys are in tune with sort of

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the rest of the tech YouTuber community, you might know that we actually hooked

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up some of our buds with storage servers

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over the last little while. And uh I was

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um a little bit um I was a little bit surprised to find out

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that some of those folks had actually changed out their storage servers or

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added storage servers without checking in with me again uh for a variety of

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reasons. And I'm going to have a more detailed video following this up in the

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future. Well, we'll talk about those reasons. We'll actually maybe get an

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opportunity to talk to them directly about what exactly happened, but the

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bottom line is the observation was that an Unraid box

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full of magnetic hard drives was not really suitable for editing off of

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because it wasn't fast enough. But, that's something that I I definitely

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know. And if I'd known that people wanted a high-performance solution,

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um I could have helped them out. It's just that um

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they went with another solution that I kind of looked at and I went, "Well,

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gee, that doesn't on paper make a ton of sense." So, today's video is about

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exploring what else is out there for editors who

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are looking for a high-performance network-based storage solution, and

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whether compared to some of the more boutique-y options, we think we can DIY

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Excuse me, 50 15% off. We'll have that

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down below. All right. So,

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guys, here's our target. This is the LumaForge Jellyfish. Can you

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see my screen okay, David? Yep. It's not not too bad? Okay. So,

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this is a uh you can actually get it in a variety of configurations, uh mobile,

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tower, or rack. With the tower and the rack, from my understanding, uh being

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very similar. I have actually spoken with these folks, although they're not

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talking to me anymore now that they know that I'm trying to beat their product

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for uh the same price or less. Uh so, I'm

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all I can go based on is what they told me before they figured out my ulterior

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motive. So, let's go ahead and choose their tower because the tower is

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quieter. So, you can see here their pricing is

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$29,995,

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and that gets you 80 terabytes of raw

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storage with 53 terabytes available. So,

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the reason that you've got less available than you have raw storage is

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because they're using um ZFS with like a RAID-Z

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Oh, shoot. Okay, don't don't quote me on this. I believe it's a RAID-Z 2 two

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RAID-Z 2s, and then I believe the two are striped together, which is kind of

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like a RAID 60. Don't quote me on that. I'm going to have to check my notes and

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make sure that it's all right when I do the follow-up video.

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So, I kind of went, "Wow, 80 terabytes for 30 grand. That's got to be some

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pretty That's going to be some pretty amazing like lightning-fast, you know,

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storageness and stuff.

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Except there's only one small problem. That 80 TB

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configuration, 80 TB of raw storage configuration,

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is actually using mechanical drives.

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Mechanical drives, my friends. So, a quick search over on newegg.com

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would reveal that the storage in this machine, let's choose 10 TB drives for a

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nice round number. 10 TB

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hard drive.

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So, eight of those would be Let's Let's pick something Let's go straight for the

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enterprise. So, 8 * $300 is

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$2,400. What happened to my other

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you know, 27,000 bucks here?

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I don't know. So, what I could have done was I could have

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put together a project where I build

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something comparable

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for the same for for a lower price. But then, I saw how completely out of whack

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they were on their pricing, and I thought, "You know what? I think we can

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do better." So, this is This is the project that I'm

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introducing today. The all solid-state storage

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LumaForge Jellyfish Killer. Yes, my friends,

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for the price of the 120 TB Jellyfish, we're going to attempt to

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build a completely SSD-based server that absolutely smashes

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the doors off of the Jellyfish. So, uh

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you know, we have There's no guarantee that this is actually all going to work

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out that way, but I'm feeling

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feeling pretty good about my chances. So,

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to start with, we need to unbox something

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from 45 Drives that I've actually never

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had occasion to use before, so I haven't experienced first hand. This is called a

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45 Drives Storenado. It's an actually It's actually a relatively recent

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product from them. And uh I thought

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there wasn't really anything that special about it uh until

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I started doing research for what kind of a server enclosure I could use for

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this project and I just couldn't find

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anything else that quite fit the bill.

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Because the thing is, part of 45 Dr- Oh,

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wow, this is some interesting

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packing mate- You guys.

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Come on, better glue 45 Drives. Um so, part of 45 Drives' schtick is that

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instead of relying on backplanes, which take your SATA or your NVMe or your or

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your SAS connection and then divide it up to multiple drives, they directly

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attach every single drive in their machines to the storage controller. Now,

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this has a

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This has a cost in terms of the wiring

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that they have to do inside their enclosures because they have to run an

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individual cable to every single drive, and it has a cost in terms of

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controllers because instead of using a single eight-port controller to run, you

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know, let's say times four if 32 drives

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or something like that, they actually have to add more SATA or more SAS

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controllers to their machines, but they

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claim the advantage is that you reduce the complexity in other ways. You reduce

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the points of failure by just using a proper controller port for every single

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drive. So, anyway, because we're going for maximum performance in this machine,

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I didn't want to run into any kind of

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um you know, SATA splitter or SAS splitter

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bottleneck, and I decided to go with the

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Storinator. I was going to use a machine from Supermicro that's actually quite

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similar to one that we have in our server room, but what I realized is that

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it only had, I believe, about four No, four uh I believe it was eight SATA

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channels for 48 drives or something along those

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lines. So, it just really wasn't going to fit the bill for us.

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So, let's Before you continue, can you move that so that it's underneath Oh, yeah, I sure can. So, let's go ahead and

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crack this open. Anthony, do you want to give me that overhead shot there? Oh,

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look at that. I can even preview. That's so cool. Look at that. I can even center it and everything. Are people enjoying

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the stream so far? Are they into this? Seems like it. Cool, cuz I am amped.

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So, it looks like 45 drives actually sent over a significantly higher-end

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configuration than I anticipated. They might have actually kind of screwed me

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over on this because um

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I have like a I have a cost I have a cost target to hit here, and they've

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gone and they've equipped this thing with a dual socket motherboard, and uh

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how much How much RAM do we have? Now, okay.

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With that said, this might still be okay because I know that uh LumaForge does

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have a um performance boost option where they

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install more RAM, and I believe they upgrade the CPU, but they don't actually

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tell you how much more RAM or how much more CPU they put in, so

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it's like uh we could kind of say, "Yeah, we performance boosted it." And we could go

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up against that if we want, but either way, the math is going to be a little

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bit fuzzy on this project. Uh in terms of RAM, they've gone and equipped us

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with 32 gigs times eight, so that's around 256 gigs of RAM. Now, you might

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wonder why on earth you would need 256 gigs of

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RAM for a storage server, and that's a very fair question. Uh but the reason is

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that because we're going to be using ZFS, um probably on FreeNAS, although that's

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not entirely decided yet, uh because we're going to be using ZFS, we can

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actually use our RAM as a cache in a way

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that can improve our performance significantly. Now, normally with

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FreeNAS and ZFS, what you could do is you could install an SSD device or two

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that you could use to um act as sort of like a buffer for rights. So, all your

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random rights go to your SSD, and then

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it will kind of organize it all and then spit it out in a more linear fashion

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that's more hard drive friendly. But, because we're using all solid state

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drives, it's very unlikely that we'd get a great benefit from that. So, the only

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way is to really successfully cache a fully solid state server would be either

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using Optane or using RAM. And uh the

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the consultant, actually this is a really uh exciting part of this video,

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the consultant that I have uh connected with actually at Computex this year to

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help us out on this project and make sure that we are setting this up in the

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best way possible is none other than Oh,

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wow. I'm having a total I'm having a total brain abandoning me

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moment, and I have actually forgotten his name.

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Oh, this is really bad. Um

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Oh, boy. Hopefully he never watches this.

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We Patrick. I know he's watching right now.

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Patrick from ServeTheHome. So, if you guys aren't familiar with ServeTheHome,

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it's an absolutely fantastic site. It's better than it sounds cuz it kind of

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sounds like um you know, weird nerds,

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you know, cobbling together like servers

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for their closets out of old hardware or something like that. And they do do that

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kind of stuff, of course. But, they're actually they go so much deeper than

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that, and they have a really great understanding of uh network storage and

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servers and all that kind of good stuff. So, we're going to work with Patrick.

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He's going to come up here for the final build where we put this whole thing

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together, get all the little dials tweaked, and see how much performance we

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can pull out of this machine. So, uh you guys can see here, I've

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actually gone ahead and pulled off the second cover here, and that is is that

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not just absolutely beautiful? I've never seen a Storinator. So, the

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difference between a 45 drives Storinator and a Storinator is this.

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This is actually a very similar chassis to their AV 15, uh which is the one that

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we hooked Austin up with, where you load a bunch of hard drives in here. But,

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instead, they've got this bracket that seems to be like machined like

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that's acetal or like a Delrin type material or something. There's a metal

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outer layer, and it's designed to hold uh I believe Yeah, it's uh 32 SSDs, up

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to 32 SSDs. Let's go ahead and have a look at the rest of our specs here. So,

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as I said before, we're using dedicated controller ports

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for each one of these slots. So, you can actually see the absolute nightmare of

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cabling. If you get a look through there, David, can you see that? Kind of through that through that slit

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there? All these cables that are running to each individual slot.

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And we're using a pair of I believe they're LSI controllers here, although

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LSI has been I think acquired a couple

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of times in the last 5 years, so I can't keep track of who owns them now. Is it

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Broadcom now, Anthony? I know it was Avago for a bit.

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Whatever. I'm just going to go full old school, and I'm going to call them LSI

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controllers because I just can't be arsed to deal with it. They're

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93 9305-16s,

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I think. Don't don't quote me on that. It's kind of hard for me from this angle. And then, here's another thing

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that we've gotten here. So, this is a pair of Intel X540T2 Ethernet cards.

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Now, you might wonder why we would care about having quad 10

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gigabit Ethernet ports on this device. Well, one of Lumaforge's big selling

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points for the Jellyfish is that it's like plug-and-play. So, you don't need a

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switch, like a network switch, that has

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to sit and be powered externally, and you've got wiring from your NAS, and

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then wiring to all your editors. It's meant to be just like a a drop-and-go

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solution, where your editors just plug

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right into the back of it, and boom, they've got access to the network share.

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So, that's something that I talked to Patrick about, and he's like, "Yeah, I

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think we can simplify the setup of that to the point where someone could build

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something like this and have that experience for themselves without paying

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an ARM and a leg for it. Or, they could pay an ARM for a leg for it, and they

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could have an all solid-state starter instead of one with spinning rust." Um

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now, let's have a look at a couple of the customizations that uh 45Drives has

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made. So, we went for oh, instead of a redundant power supply,

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because we're looking for a configuration that's more like the tower, we went for a single quiet power

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supply. I want this to be something that someone could install in their office and be

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ready to rock with. And all of the fans

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are Noctua high airflow fans for this particular configuration. So, these are

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NF-S12A FLX fans.

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All right. Now, let's talk about oh,

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the thing that made this project feasible. So, I actually was already

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getting pretty close to being able to be competitive with enterprise grade SSDs

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from the likes of Intel or Micron, but

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the problem was that we were sort of in like that awkward zone where either we

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were going to have to tackle this from a let's be way way cheaper and the same

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performance perspective, which wasn't going to be as much fun for me, or we

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were going to blow the budget a little bit in order to

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beat it by performance by beat it in performance by a lot. And I really

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wanted our budget to be pretty much identical and that is when these hit my

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inbox. So, this is

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just shy of three master cartons of something pretty special from Seagate.

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Now, if you had told me even

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3 years ago that someone was going to develop a product designed for home

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users to put SSDs in their NASes, in their

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network attached storage, I'd have said, "No way. It's not ready. The only way

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that that's ever going to be economical is well, just to wait. To wait more."

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And wait more we did. This is Seagate's

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IronWolf NAS 3.84 TB SSD. So, just like

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the rest of their IronWolf family, it includes their Actually,

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oh, does it include that? Hey Anthony, can you double check if it

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includes Oh, yeah, it does. Look at that. It's right on the label. Like the rest of the IronWolf family, it includes

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their rescue data recovery services. So, that is pretty freaking sweet and it's

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rated for 24/7 operation, etc. etc. etc.

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just like their IronWolf family of hard drives. So, this is it.

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With 4 TB SSDs, these are priced at around 750 bucks a

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pop. It looks like we can get there. So,

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where did I put my laptop? Oh, well. Where did I put my laptop?

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Up, good. There it is. So, let's go ahead and fire up a ZFS

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calculator and then we're going to get all these drives installed. So, this is a really cool calculator

00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:30.200
over on wintelguy.com. So, we're going to use probably RAID Z1

00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:35.960
single parity. Our drive capacity is 3840 gigs. Um our drive cost is going to

00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:40.360
be somewhere between $700 and $800 a unit. Uh I didn't say they were cheap,

00:17:38.320 --> 00:17:43.960
just to be very clear, you guys. And then number of drives per group. So,

00:17:41.840 --> 00:17:46.600
we've got uh ooh, how many drives do we have?

00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:51.560
Whoop. Three, four, five,

00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:57.080
six, seven here. And then I believe these are

00:17:54.520 --> 00:18:01.240
both full master cartons with 10 units each. So, we've got 27 drives. So,

00:17:59.520 --> 00:18:06.960
there's a number of different ways that we can break that up. Now, I was

00:18:03.040 --> 00:18:08.480
actually I I was I had some very old

00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:13.120
information um and I thought that it mattered a lot

00:18:11.040 --> 00:18:17.960
how many drives you had in each one of your VDEVs. So, that's your that's your

00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:19.440
groupings of drives for ZFS. Um but

00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:22.960
apparently that's very outdated information, doesn't actually matter.

00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:28.560
So, there's a number of different ways that we can tackle this. So, let's go ahead and have a look together.

00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:34.280
So, if we wanted to use all 27 of our drives, we could go nine drives per

00:18:31.320 --> 00:18:38.760
group. We could say uh RAID Z1 single parity and we could go, "Okay, we're

00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:40.320
going to have three RAID groups." And

00:18:38.760 --> 00:18:46.000
let's go ahead and calculate what that gives us.

00:18:42.760 --> 00:18:48.840
So, total raw storage is

00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:54.280
94. Uh usable storage capacity is about 80.

00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:59.840
So, let's go ahead and fire up the Jellyfish here. So, if we only need 80

00:18:57.800 --> 00:19:03.360
terabytes of usable capacity, we actually get to compete against the

00:19:01.520 --> 00:19:08.560
$35,000 Jellyfish. Uh we can have up to four

00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:11.920
editors. So, that's how they denote how many um Ethernet ports they're going to

00:19:10.600 --> 00:19:17.880
put in the machine. So, we've got four Ethernet ports. Let's go ahead and click this. Um

00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:20.840
storage expansion, nope, we already told you how much

00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:25.200
Yeah, sure, performance boost. We're boosted.

00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:28.320
Um and then let's have a look. So, our total is 40

00:19:26.760 --> 00:19:33.320
grand. So, let's see how we're doing against that. So, our total cost wow, it asks me how

00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:37.760
much my drives cost, but it doesn't actually calculate that for me. Oh,

00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:41.920
total cost, okay. So, it's costing us 20 grand in drives, which gives us about

00:19:39.280 --> 00:19:46.720
$20,000 to spend on a Stornator. That should be okay. Or a Stornado, Stornado,

00:19:43.800 --> 00:19:51.800
sorry, sorry, sorry, Stornado. Yeah, wow, that's I think I think we're

00:19:48.800 --> 00:19:51.800
going to be okay here.

00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:58.880
So, I guess they sent over the Turbo Stornator, which starts at 10 grand.

00:19:56.320 --> 00:20:01.960
I we did make some additions though. So, uh I believe we're going to run

00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:07.200
FreeNAS, but that doesn't affect the price cuz it's free. We're not running

00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:13.720
the uh redundant power supply. We're going to run 256 gigs of RAM. We've got

00:20:11.800 --> 00:20:19.760
redundant boot drives. Yes, they are 9305, so we've got two of those, and we

00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:22.240
have two dual copper NICs.

00:20:19.760 --> 00:20:27.640
And our warranty is 3 year, that looks comparable. We don't have Oh, okay. So,

00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:30.880
we don't have any uh after-sales support, and that is something that

00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:35.520
Jellyfish does, and my understanding is they also ship you two cold spare

00:20:33.320 --> 00:20:38.840
drives. So, we should probably factor that into our price to have a a couple

00:20:37.320 --> 00:20:43.360
extra drives. That's another 1,500 bucks. So, let's see how much our Stornator is

00:20:41.800 --> 00:20:46.800
costing us here. 17,415.

00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:52.160
All right. So, it looks like we are in business. We

00:20:49.120 --> 00:20:54.320
are like a grand grand and a half shy of

00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:56.960
what the uh what a Jellyfish would have cost us.

00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:03.440
And we're all solid state instead of mechanical drives.

00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:07.480
So, let's go ahead and do some drive installation porn here, shall we? Oh, am

00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:11.640
I going to get demonetized? Ooh. Is that a bad word? Hey.

00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:14.880
Cuz you know they transcribe everything you say, right? So

00:21:18.560 --> 00:21:24.600
10% off the Ridge Wallet? Oh, shoot. Sorry, guys. Here, want to throw that to

00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:28.840
me? Oh, not over here. Ow.

00:21:34.560 --> 00:21:40.400
All right. Uh Ridge Wallet. There you go. That's a

00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:43.880
Ridge Wallet. So basically, it doesn't hold too much stuff and it's supposed to

00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:47.600
deincentivize you from carrying around unnecessary junk. They feel great.

00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:52.360
They're made of like anodized aluminum. They clip on and you can save 10% at the

00:21:50.560 --> 00:21:57.760
link in the video description. Sorry about that. Sorry.

00:21:55.320 --> 00:22:00.240
All right. Okay.

00:21:58.800 --> 00:22:06.240
All right. Let's go ahead and install some drives here.

00:22:02.840 --> 00:22:06.240
Uh probably the overhead.

00:22:11.840 --> 00:22:17.760
Let's see if I can figure out how these go in. Wow, they have I got to say these

00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:20.240
guys have really really improved their drive mounting mechanisms over the

00:22:19.280 --> 00:22:25.440
years. I'd like to see like a like a plasticky

00:22:23.280 --> 00:22:28.280
mount for the hard drives as well. Although they're they're new friction

00:22:26.760 --> 00:22:31.160
mount or not new, it's not that new anymore, but their friction mount with

00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:33.960
the um kind of the

00:22:32.840 --> 00:22:38.920
I don't know what to call them. Kind of like the spring metal on the sides. That's not that bad either.

00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:46.680
Man, I wish we had like an on-screen counter

00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:52.120
for like how many terabytes we're adding to this machine. 3.84 terabytes per

00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:56.240
drive. Just like that. I should probably also read some super chats or something

00:22:54.400 --> 00:23:00.360
since I'm not doing anything more useful right now.

00:22:57.520 --> 00:23:04.880
Uh where is my mouse cursor? There we go.

00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.880
All right.

00:23:05.760 --> 00:23:12.520
Get them 10 more of these.

00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:16.000
Man, I'm so amped for this project. It's always really cool when I reach out to

00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:20.880
someone that I really respect, even though I don't know his name, like Patrick

00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:24.440
from ServeTheHome, and he's like, "Heck yeah, man. Love to work together. That

00:23:22.760 --> 00:23:28.920
would be great." Um he's also got some really cool ideas

00:23:26.760 --> 00:23:33.920
for how we could take this this initial project, which is

00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:40.160
find a magic server and demonstrate that no, it is not in fact magic. It's just

00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:42.600
some open-source or free-to-use software

00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:46.200
and some commodity hardware that someone assembled.

00:23:43.840 --> 00:23:51.160
In fairness to them, my understanding is that their connector software, like they

00:23:48.600 --> 00:23:54.400
have a client connector software that makes it so you don't have to go into a

00:23:52.840 --> 00:23:58.760
web UI in order to configure your server. My understanding is that's

00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:03.280
pretty cool, but they only just got back to me with a video

00:24:00.840 --> 00:24:07.560
um demoing what that UI looks like. So, I haven't had a look at that yet, but I

00:24:05.320 --> 00:24:13.440
will before the final video. I'm determined to make this as fair as I

00:24:10.320 --> 00:24:16.480
can. Um even though, obviously, like I

00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:18.360
said, I am coming in with the agenda of

00:24:16.480 --> 00:24:22.200
demonstrating that no, you should not, in fact, be paying,

00:24:20.320 --> 00:24:26.520
um you know, given that our drives are what, 20 grand of our cost. If we were

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:31.960
using hard drives with just a small SSD cache, it would be more like four or

00:24:29.040 --> 00:24:35.520
five grand. Um I'm just Yes, my agenda is to demonstrate that you shouldn't be

00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:40.760
paying an extra $15,000 for a service plan. Uh

00:24:38.120 --> 00:24:46.560
and the privilege of not having to log into a web UI once in a while.

00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:51.640
So, we'll see. We'll see. It's still possible that I'll be wrong. This could

00:24:48.520 --> 00:24:51.640
be a total dog.

00:24:52.600 --> 00:24:57.240
Come on, it could, David. David.

00:24:55.800 --> 00:25:01.200
Keep an open mind. Okay? Okay?

00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:05.960
Keep an open mind. Right. What's that? They're both canines, right? Uh canines?

00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:10.280
Iron wolf. Iron wolf. Oh.

00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:15.960
Would you folks believe that he's a professional writer? I write things.

00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:20.960
Thanks, Anthony. Uh all right. Paul says, "Take my money.

00:25:18.600 --> 00:25:23.920
Anthony is king." I'm not sure if that's for smoking me in the head with a Ridge

00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:27.680
wallet or something else, but there you go, Anthony. Good work.

00:25:25.720 --> 00:25:31.720
Uh Brian says, "Take my free super chat." What do people get free super

00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:34.560
chats for? Is that a thing?

00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:43.280
I don't know. Okay. Uh WTF name says, "Lag." Oh, sorry. Kenneth says, "Take my

00:25:41.840 --> 00:25:46.720
free super chat." What are these free super chats people

00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:51.200
are talking about? Is this kind of like on Amazon where you

00:25:48.280 --> 00:25:54.920
get uh a free Twitch Prime something or other once in a while or

00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:59.440
I don't I don't know that Google has a service like that. Uh Jason says,

00:25:57.040 --> 00:26:05.200
"Here's $2 towards your new build." Yeah, $2. So, we only need another uh

00:26:03.120 --> 00:26:08.760
What's that work out to? 20,000 of those? Then we're good to go.

00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.960
Uh that's that's okay, though. This stuff was provided by 45 Drives and

00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:15.640
Seagate, so you guys don't have to help me pay for this. It's all good. Uh what

00:26:14.320 --> 00:26:22.360
else we got? Jake says, "Need your review of the $1,000 monitor stand." That would actually be another really

00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:24.760
fun project to see if we can beat for

00:26:22.360 --> 00:26:28.320
half the price or, you know, or match for half the price or, you know, beat

00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:32.640
for way less or something or beat for the same price or something like that.

00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:37.320
What would a $1,000 like an actual $1,000 monitor stand look like?

00:26:35.800 --> 00:26:41.560
I have I have no idea. Like, it would have to

00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:50.440
Man, if it had like like a super strong electromagnet or something. So, you

00:26:47.320 --> 00:26:52.320
could like electromagnet it to a thing

00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:55.320
and then it would be like super solid and then you could like turn off the

00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:58.640
electromagnet, and then you could like mount it somewhere else. Like like how

00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:04.440
over-engineered would a a legitimate $1,000 monitor

00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:04.440
stand have to be?

00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:10.920
Apparently, uh YouTube Premium gives Super Chats for

00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:13.680
free. Oh, YouTube Premium gives Super Chats for free. Okay, Solden sent one,

00:27:12.520 --> 00:27:17.920
too. That's absolutely fascinating.

00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:22.960
Um All right. Nick says, "When is Petabyte

00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:25.640
Project getting the full SSD upgrade?" Uh

00:27:23.520 --> 00:27:29.400
never. Well, I shouldn't say never. Never's a big word. But, um Petabyte

00:27:27.760 --> 00:27:35.560
Project is getting an upgrade, but it's going to be mechanical storage, not

00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:37.400
solid state, because even this 80 usable

00:27:35.560 --> 00:27:43.360
terabytes of solid state storage, like I said before, is is 40 grand. Um

00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:46.840
All right. Let me just see if there's anything

00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:50.880
else. Apparently, I need to get myself a

00:27:48.080 --> 00:27:54.480
Megapro screwdriver, says James. Uh no more random bits falling out of the

00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:57.720
handle. Maybe I Maybe I should look into that.

00:27:56.120 --> 00:28:04.880
All right. David Lee says free Super Chat is included with YouTube Premium. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much.

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:07.320
All right. So, this is it, guys.

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:11.280
That was pretty much the video today is the physical build, having a look at the

00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:16.880
machine that we're going to be using to try to beat the LumaForge Jellyfish.

00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:21.680
Isn't that beautiful? I really wish that I had

00:28:19.800 --> 00:28:25.280
talked Seagate into sending over five more, cuz then it would be full, but

00:28:23.320 --> 00:28:29.560
it's actually Okay, we were trying to hit a price

00:28:26.800 --> 00:28:33.160
target, which is why I settled on 27. It wasn't uh it wasn't a totally arbitrary

00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:37.400
decision. Um

00:28:35.560 --> 00:28:42.480
I'm like super excited about this. So, I believe Patrick is flying up here in

00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:47.440
2 weeks. So, in 2 weeks, we're going to be filming, and then after that, we're

00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:51.080
going to be bringing this video to you guys.

00:28:48.760 --> 00:28:55.640
Actually, one thing I should do is fire it up real quick and make sure the thing

00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:59.320
works because it would put a significant

00:28:55.640 --> 00:29:01.880
damper on our plans if

00:28:59.320 --> 00:29:05.320
this server was damaged in shipping or something like that. So, let's go ahead.

00:29:03.480 --> 00:29:07.600
I I won't leave you guys in suspense. We're going to we're going to fire it up

00:29:06.520 --> 00:29:12.320
here. Uh VGA

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:16.440
because that on-board server video, you got to love it, right?

00:29:14.080 --> 00:29:19.400
Uh mouse and keyboard What did we do with those cables? There

00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.960
they are. Awesome.

00:29:22.360 --> 00:29:27.920
I'm hoping it's pretty quiet. It should be. It's almost all Noctua fans except

00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:33.480
for the one in the uh except for the one in the power supply.

00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.480
Let's go ahead and fire it up.

00:29:37.280 --> 00:29:42.720
All right. Rock on. That's a pretty reasonable noise level.

00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:46.640
Loudest thing in the system is definitely the power supply. It's interesting. I thought they were going

00:29:45.280 --> 00:29:50.760
to send over um just like a consumer power supply

00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:54.840
unit for this, but they ended up going with a Zippy power supply. To be clear,

00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:59.920
I'm not complaining. That's a nice, high-quality server-grade power supply.

00:29:57.520 --> 00:30:03.280
Um it's just not what I had expected. I thought I was going to get like a

00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:07.400
Corsair RM series, kind of like their AV512.

00:30:06.280 --> 00:30:12.720
Oh, I guess now would be a good time to find out what kind of CPUs they put in here as well. That's another thing that

00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:18.920
um I still don't know uh from LumaForge. They wouldn't tell me

00:30:14.320 --> 00:30:22.040
what CPUs they're using because um

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:24.320
that's I guess proprietary information

00:30:22.040 --> 00:30:27.800
or something. So, I'm just going to ask one of the folks that I know who owns

00:30:26.120 --> 00:30:31.840
one. Like that I don't get what you're trying to accomplish by not just answering my

00:30:30.320 --> 00:30:37.360
questions cuz clearly I'm going to find the answer. It's just you're wasting my

00:30:33.800 --> 00:30:38.760
time. So, then obviously that's not

00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:42.280
putting me in a better mood about all this. Not that I'm going to let my mood affect

00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:47.560
things. We're going to try to objectively beat it. All right, let's just go ahead and get

00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:51.400
this loaded up here. Sheesh.

00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:55.880
I think your porn comment earlier said on the bot storm there's currently like

00:30:53.840 --> 00:30:58.880
a million bots spamming porn. There's bots spamming porn? In YouTube,

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:03.680
yeah. That's weird. Yeah.

00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:06.880
That's really weird. Huh.

00:31:04.760 --> 00:31:10.080
How about that? YouTube really is a very special place, isn't it?

00:31:11.600 --> 00:31:17.200
Man, these Supermicro boards take a long time to post, eh? The worst is when

00:31:15.320 --> 00:31:21.280
you're troubleshooting one of them because it's like

00:31:19.320 --> 00:31:25.320
3 minutes, you know, between loading up the OS and

00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:28.480
rebooting and detecting IPMI and all that kind of stuff. It's like 3 minutes

00:31:26.840 --> 00:31:31.360
for every reboot every time you try to like change something.

00:31:33.520 --> 00:31:38.720
Okay, so the cards report themselves as Avago, but I thought that they had

00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:43.600
actually been acquired since then cuz I thought Avago got acquired.

00:31:41.040 --> 00:31:47.440
Uh yeah, it's Broadcom. Broadcom, okay. There you go.

00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:50.640
So LSI acquired by Avago, Avago acquired by Broadcom.

00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:54.520
You can take a moment to appreciate the Stornext front plate.

00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:58.000
They asked if I wanted a a custom one with like our logo on it or whatever cuz

00:31:56.280 --> 00:32:01.840
they have this um like this direct-to-metal printer that

00:32:00.040 --> 00:32:05.240
they can use to do stuff like this. But I was like, "No, I actually kind of like

00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:11.560
the stock Stornext one." I think it's cool. Purple is an underutilized like

00:32:08.800 --> 00:32:15.000
performance color, I think. It's the best color. I love it.

00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:18.800
It's called Royal Blue. Yeah. Royal server.

00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:24.600
Come on, baby. Uh

00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:27.880
Uh

00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:35.120
One of these days, Supermicro, you guys might actually give a care about how

00:32:32.280 --> 00:32:39.720
long your boards take to boot. I'm not like

00:32:37.080 --> 00:32:44.000
I'm not holding my breath for it, but someday.

00:32:41.320 --> 00:32:44.000
Maybe.

00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:48.760
Come on. Okay, here we go.

00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:56.640
So, it's working. Um that stick of memory I pulled out may

00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:59.960
not have been re-seated correctly. 200 Wait, no yeah, that's right. Yep, 256

00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:04.960
gigs of RAM. Uh what do we got for CPU configuration?

00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:12.720
What are these? Uh Xeon E5 2620 V4s. These are actually

00:33:10.120 --> 00:33:15.720
not that state of the art. I'm uh I'd be interested to know why they haven't

00:33:14.360 --> 00:33:19.840
upgraded to some of the newer stuff. I guess maybe they found it doesn't matter.

00:33:18.120 --> 00:33:23.760
Well, I guess we're going to see. So, that's pretty much it for the video,

00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:27.840
guys. Thank you for tuning in to this live stream, which on YouTube probably

00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:31.760
won't end up being live. The reason for that is that YouTube actually took a

00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:36.040
full week, and I still don't know if it's actually done correctly, to

00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:38.800
transcode last week's WAN Show. That's why it never showed up on YouTube. There

00:33:37.360 --> 00:33:42.640
was no problem with the show or anything like that, but instead of being an

00:33:40.520 --> 00:33:46.520
hour-long video, uh YouTube was detecting that it was 2 hours long, and

00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:51.040
it was full of like weird skipping and and repetition. Um it was some kind of a

00:33:49.040 --> 00:33:54.360
problem on their side. They claim it was something to do with the outages that

00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.400
they experienced last weekend, but I don't actually buy it because the WAN

00:33:55.840 --> 00:34:01.040
Show from the previous week had the same bloody issue. So, what we're going to do

00:33:59.080 --> 00:34:05.000
with this video is we are going to upload it separately to YouTube, so

00:34:02.760 --> 00:34:10.360
it'll just be a regular VOD. Um so, sorry, guys, if we notify you twice, um

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but what are we supposed to do if they can't manage to take these live videos

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and publish them in a in a reasonable time

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frame. Like, we can't have people waiting a week to watch something. It's old news by that point. So, all right,

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our merch store, which has cool shirts like the ooh, it has cool hoodies like

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this one. It's finally in stock. lttstore.com.

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So, Woo! I actually love this thing. And

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one of the top features is the phone pocket. So, it's big enough to hold an

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iPhone 10S Max or a Note 9 and secure

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enough that your phone doesn't come out. Which I think it's pretty sweet, but you

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can get it out easily. See that? So, it's just There's your technique for

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putting it in. There's your technique for getting it out. But, if you're like,

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you know, bending over to pick something up, you can never have your phone drop out

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again. Huh? All right. Peace, guys.