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really cool server gear from our buds over at Seagate and 45 drives, but on

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the other hand, it's a project that has kind of a personal element to it for me.

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the rest of the tech YouTuber community, you might know that we actually hooked

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up some of our buds with storage servers

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over the last little while. And uh I was

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that some of those folks had actually changed out their storage servers or

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added storage servers without checking in with me again uh for a variety of

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reasons. And I'm going to have a more detailed video following this up in the

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future. Well, we'll talk about those reasons. We'll actually maybe get an

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opportunity to talk to them directly about what exactly happened, but the

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bottom line is the observation was that an Unraid box

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full of magnetic hard drives was not really suitable for editing off of

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because it wasn't fast enough. But, that's something that I I definitely

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know. And if I'd known that people wanted a high-performance solution,

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um I could have helped them out. It's just that um

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they went with another solution that I kind of looked at and I went, "Well,

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gee, that doesn't on paper make a ton of sense." So, today's video is about

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exploring what else is out there for editors who

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are looking for a high-performance network-based storage solution, and

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whether compared to some of the more boutique-y options, we think we can DIY

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Excuse me, 50 15% off. We'll have that

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down below. All right. So,

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guys, here's our target. This is the LumaForge Jellyfish. Can you

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see my screen okay, David? Yep. It's not not too bad? Okay. So,

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this is a uh you can actually get it in a variety of configurations, uh mobile,

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tower, or rack. With the tower and the rack, from my understanding, uh being

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very similar. I have actually spoken with these folks, although they're not

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talking to me anymore now that they know that I'm trying to beat their product

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for uh the same price or less. Uh so, I'm

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all I can go based on is what they told me before they figured out my ulterior

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motive. So, let's go ahead and choose their tower because the tower is

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quieter. So, you can see here their pricing is

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and that gets you 80 terabytes of raw

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storage with 53 terabytes available. So,

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the reason that you've got less available than you have raw storage is

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RAID-Z 2s, and then I believe the two are striped together, which is kind of

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like a RAID 60. Don't quote me on that. I'm going to have to check my notes and

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make sure that it's all right when I do the follow-up video.

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pretty That's going to be some pretty amazing like lightning-fast, you know,

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configuration, 80 TB of raw storage configuration,

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Mechanical drives, my friends. So, a quick search over on newegg.com

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would reveal that the storage in this machine, let's choose 10 TB drives for a

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enterprise. So, 8 * $300 is

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for the same for for a lower price. But then, I saw how completely out of whack

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introducing today. The all solid-state storage

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for the price of the 120 TB Jellyfish, we're going to attempt to

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this project and I just couldn't find

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anything else that quite fit the bill.

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packing mate- You guys.

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instead of relying on backplanes, which take your SATA or your NVMe or your or

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your SAS connection and then divide it up to multiple drives, they directly

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individual cable to every single drive, and it has a cost in terms of

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controllers because instead of using a single eight-port controller to run, you

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controllers to their machines, but they

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claim the advantage is that you reduce the complexity in other ways. You reduce

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So, let's Before you continue, can you move that so that it's underneath Oh, yeah, I sure can. So, let's go ahead and

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crack this open. Anthony, do you want to give me that overhead shot there? Oh,

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look at that. I can even preview. That's so cool. Look at that. I can even center it and everything. Are people enjoying

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the stream so far? Are they into this? Seems like it. Cool, cuz I am amped.

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configuration than I anticipated. They might have actually kind of screwed me

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how much How much RAM do we have? Now, okay.

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install more RAM, and I believe they upgrade the CPU, but they don't actually

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tell you how much more RAM or how much more CPU they put in, so

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it's like uh we could kind of say, "Yeah, we performance boosted it." And we could go

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up against that if we want, but either way, the math is going to be a little

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bit fuzzy on this project. Uh in terms of RAM, they've gone and equipped us

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with 32 gigs times eight, so that's around 256 gigs of RAM. Now, you might

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wonder why on earth you would need 256 gigs of

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RAM for a storage server, and that's a very fair question. Uh but the reason is

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that because we're going to be using ZFS, um probably on FreeNAS, although that's

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not entirely decided yet, uh because we're going to be using ZFS, we can

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actually use our RAM as a cache in a way

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that can improve our performance significantly. Now, normally with

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FreeNAS and ZFS, what you could do is you could install an SSD device or two

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that you could use to um act as sort of like a buffer for rights. So, all your

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random rights go to your SSD, and then

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it will kind of organize it all and then spit it out in a more linear fashion

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that's more hard drive friendly. But, because we're using all solid state

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drives, it's very unlikely that we'd get a great benefit from that. So, the only

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way is to really successfully cache a fully solid state server would be either

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the consultant, actually this is a really uh exciting part of this video,

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the consultant that I have uh connected with actually at Computex this year to

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best way possible is none other than Oh,

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moment, and I have actually forgotten his name.

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Oh, boy. Hopefully he never watches this.

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We Patrick. I know he's watching right now.

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Patrick from ServeTheHome. So, if you guys aren't familiar with ServeTheHome,

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it's an absolutely fantastic site. It's better than it sounds cuz it kind of

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sounds like um you know, weird nerds,

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you know, cobbling together like servers

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for their closets out of old hardware or something like that. And they do do that

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kind of stuff, of course. But, they're actually they go so much deeper than

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that, and they have a really great understanding of uh network storage and

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servers and all that kind of good stuff. So, we're going to work with Patrick.

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together, get all the little dials tweaked, and see how much performance we

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can pull out of this machine. So, uh you guys can see here, I've

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actually gone ahead and pulled off the second cover here, and that is is that

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not just absolutely beautiful? I've never seen a Storinator. So, the

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difference between a 45 drives Storinator and a Storinator is this.

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we hooked Austin up with, where you load a bunch of hard drives in here. But,

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instead, they've got this bracket that seems to be like machined like

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that's acetal or like a Delrin type material or something. There's a metal

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outer layer, and it's designed to hold uh I believe Yeah, it's uh 32 SSDs, up

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for each one of these slots. So, you can actually see the absolute nightmare of

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cabling. If you get a look through there, David, can you see that? Kind of through that through that slit

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Broadcom now, Anthony? I know it was Avago for a bit.

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Whatever. I'm just going to go full old school, and I'm going to call them LSI

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controllers because I just can't be arsed to deal with it. They're

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that we've gotten here. So, this is a pair of Intel X540T2 Ethernet cards.

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gigabit Ethernet ports on this device. Well, one of Lumaforge's big selling

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points for the Jellyfish is that it's like plug-and-play. So, you don't need a

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switch, like a network switch, that has

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to sit and be powered externally, and you've got wiring from your NAS, and

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then wiring to all your editors. It's meant to be just like a a drop-and-go

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solution, where your editors just plug

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right into the back of it, and boom, they've got access to the network share.

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something like this and have that experience for themselves without paying

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an ARM and a leg for it. Or, they could pay an ARM for a leg for it, and they

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could have an all solid-state starter instead of one with spinning rust." Um

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made. So, we went for oh, instead of a redundant power supply,

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because we're looking for a configuration that's more like the tower, we went for a single quiet power

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supply. I want this to be something that someone could install in their office and be

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ready to rock with. And all of the fans

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the thing that made this project feasible. So, I actually was already

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from the likes of Intel or Micron, but

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the problem was that we were sort of in like that awkward zone where either we

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performance perspective, which wasn't going to be as much fun for me, or we

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were going to blow the budget a little bit in order to

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beat it by performance by beat it in performance by a lot. And I really

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just shy of three master cartons of something pretty special from Seagate.

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Now, if you had told me even

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3 years ago that someone was going to develop a product designed for home

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users to put SSDs in their NASes, in their

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network attached storage, I'd have said, "No way. It's not ready. The only way

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that that's ever going to be economical is well, just to wait. To wait more."

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And wait more we did. This is Seagate's

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IronWolf NAS 3.84 TB SSD. So, just like

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the rest of their IronWolf family, it includes their Actually,

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oh, does it include that? Hey Anthony, can you double check if it

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includes Oh, yeah, it does. Look at that. It's right on the label. Like the rest of the IronWolf family, it includes

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their rescue data recovery services. So, that is pretty freaking sweet and it's

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rated for 24/7 operation, etc. etc. etc.

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just like their IronWolf family of hard drives. So, this is it.

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With 4 TB SSDs, these are priced at around 750 bucks a

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pop. It looks like we can get there. So,

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where did I put my laptop? Oh, well. Where did I put my laptop?

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Up, good. There it is. So, let's go ahead and fire up a ZFS

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calculator and then we're going to get all these drives installed. So, this is a really cool calculator

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over on wintelguy.com. So, we're going to use probably RAID Z1

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single parity. Our drive capacity is 3840 gigs. Um our drive cost is going to

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be somewhere between $700 and $800 a unit. Uh I didn't say they were cheap,

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just to be very clear, you guys. And then number of drives per group. So,

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we've got uh ooh, how many drives do we have?

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Whoop. Three, four, five,

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six, seven here. And then I believe these are

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both full master cartons with 10 units each. So, we've got 27 drives. So,

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there's a number of different ways that we can break that up. Now, I was

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actually I I was I had some very old

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information um and I thought that it mattered a lot

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how many drives you had in each one of your VDEVs. So, that's your that's your

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groupings of drives for ZFS. Um but

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apparently that's very outdated information, doesn't actually matter.

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So, there's a number of different ways that we can tackle this. So, let's go ahead and have a look together.

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So, if we wanted to use all 27 of our drives, we could go nine drives per

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group. We could say uh RAID Z1 single parity and we could go, "Okay, we're

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going to have three RAID groups." And

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let's go ahead and calculate what that gives us.

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So, total raw storage is

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94. Uh usable storage capacity is about 80.

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So, let's go ahead and fire up the Jellyfish here. So, if we only need 80

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terabytes of usable capacity, we actually get to compete against the

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$35,000 Jellyfish. Uh we can have up to four

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editors. So, that's how they denote how many um Ethernet ports they're going to

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put in the machine. So, we've got four Ethernet ports. Let's go ahead and click this. Um

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storage expansion, nope, we already told you how much

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Yeah, sure, performance boost. We're boosted.

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Um and then let's have a look. So, our total is 40

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grand. So, let's see how we're doing against that. So, our total cost wow, it asks me how

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much my drives cost, but it doesn't actually calculate that for me. Oh,

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total cost, okay. So, it's costing us 20 grand in drives, which gives us about

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$20,000 to spend on a Stornator. That should be okay. Or a Stornado, Stornado,

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sorry, sorry, sorry, Stornado. Yeah, wow, that's I think I think we're

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going to be okay here.

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So, I guess they sent over the Turbo Stornator, which starts at 10 grand.

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I we did make some additions though. So, uh I believe we're going to run

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FreeNAS, but that doesn't affect the price cuz it's free. We're not running

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the uh redundant power supply. We're going to run 256 gigs of RAM. We've got

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redundant boot drives. Yes, they are 9305, so we've got two of those, and we

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have two dual copper NICs.

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And our warranty is 3 year, that looks comparable. We don't have Oh, okay. So,

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we don't have any uh after-sales support, and that is something that

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Jellyfish does, and my understanding is they also ship you two cold spare

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drives. So, we should probably factor that into our price to have a a couple

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extra drives. That's another 1,500 bucks. So, let's see how much our Stornator is

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costing us here. 17,415.

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All right. So, it looks like we are in business. We

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are like a grand grand and a half shy of

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what the uh what a Jellyfish would have cost us.

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And we're all solid state instead of mechanical drives.

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So, let's go ahead and do some drive installation porn here, shall we? Oh, am

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I going to get demonetized? Ooh. Is that a bad word? Hey.

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Cuz you know they transcribe everything you say, right? So

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10% off the Ridge Wallet? Oh, shoot. Sorry, guys. Here, want to throw that to

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me? Oh, not over here. Ow.

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All right. Uh Ridge Wallet. There you go. That's a

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Ridge Wallet. So basically, it doesn't hold too much stuff and it's supposed to

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deincentivize you from carrying around unnecessary junk. They feel great.

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They're made of like anodized aluminum. They clip on and you can save 10% at the

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link in the video description. Sorry about that. Sorry.

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All right. Okay.

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All right. Let's go ahead and install some drives here.

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Uh probably the overhead.

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Let's see if I can figure out how these go in. Wow, they have I got to say these

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guys have really really improved their drive mounting mechanisms over the

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years. I'd like to see like a like a plasticky

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mount for the hard drives as well. Although they're they're new friction

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mount or not new, it's not that new anymore, but their friction mount with

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the um kind of the

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I don't know what to call them. Kind of like the spring metal on the sides. That's not that bad either.

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Man, I wish we had like an on-screen counter

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for like how many terabytes we're adding to this machine. 3.84 terabytes per

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drive. Just like that. I should probably also read some super chats or something

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since I'm not doing anything more useful right now.

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Uh where is my mouse cursor? There we go.

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All right.

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Get them 10 more of these.

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Man, I'm so amped for this project. It's always really cool when I reach out to

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someone that I really respect, even though I don't know his name, like Patrick

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from ServeTheHome, and he's like, "Heck yeah, man. Love to work together. That

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would be great." Um he's also got some really cool ideas

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for how we could take this this initial project, which is

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find a magic server and demonstrate that no, it is not in fact magic. It's just

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some open-source or free-to-use software

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and some commodity hardware that someone assembled.

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In fairness to them, my understanding is that their connector software, like they

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have a client connector software that makes it so you don't have to go into a

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web UI in order to configure your server. My understanding is that's

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pretty cool, but they only just got back to me with a video

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um demoing what that UI looks like. So, I haven't had a look at that yet, but I

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will before the final video. I'm determined to make this as fair as I

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can. Um even though, obviously, like I

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said, I am coming in with the agenda of

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demonstrating that no, you should not, in fact, be paying,

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um you know, given that our drives are what, 20 grand of our cost. If we were

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using hard drives with just a small SSD cache, it would be more like four or

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five grand. Um I'm just Yes, my agenda is to demonstrate that you shouldn't be

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paying an extra $15,000 for a service plan. Uh

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and the privilege of not having to log into a web UI once in a while.

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So, we'll see. We'll see. It's still possible that I'll be wrong. This could

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be a total dog.

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Come on, it could, David. David.

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Keep an open mind. Okay? Okay?

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Keep an open mind. Right. What's that? They're both canines, right? Uh canines?

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Iron wolf. Iron wolf. Oh.

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Would you folks believe that he's a professional writer? I write things.

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Thanks, Anthony. Uh all right. Paul says, "Take my money.

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Anthony is king." I'm not sure if that's for smoking me in the head with a Ridge

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wallet or something else, but there you go, Anthony. Good work.

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Uh Brian says, "Take my free super chat." What do people get free super

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chats for? Is that a thing?

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I don't know. Okay. Uh WTF name says, "Lag." Oh, sorry. Kenneth says, "Take my

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free super chat." What are these free super chats people

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are talking about? Is this kind of like on Amazon where you

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get uh a free Twitch Prime something or other once in a while or

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I don't I don't know that Google has a service like that. Uh Jason says,

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"Here's $2 towards your new build." Yeah, $2. So, we only need another uh

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What's that work out to? 20,000 of those? Then we're good to go.

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Uh that's that's okay, though. This stuff was provided by 45 Drives and

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Seagate, so you guys don't have to help me pay for this. It's all good. Uh what

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else we got? Jake says, "Need your review of the $1,000 monitor stand." That would actually be another really

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fun project to see if we can beat for

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half the price or, you know, or match for half the price or, you know, beat

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for way less or something or beat for the same price or something like that.

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What would a $1,000 like an actual $1,000 monitor stand look like?

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I have I have no idea. Like, it would have to

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Man, if it had like like a super strong electromagnet or something. So, you

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could like electromagnet it to a thing

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and then it would be like super solid and then you could like turn off the

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electromagnet, and then you could like mount it somewhere else. Like like how

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over-engineered would a a legitimate $1,000 monitor

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stand have to be?

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Apparently, uh YouTube Premium gives Super Chats for

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free. Oh, YouTube Premium gives Super Chats for free. Okay, Solden sent one,

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too. That's absolutely fascinating.

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Um All right. Nick says, "When is Petabyte

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Project getting the full SSD upgrade?" Uh

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never. Well, I shouldn't say never. Never's a big word. But, um Petabyte

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Project is getting an upgrade, but it's going to be mechanical storage, not

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solid state, because even this 80 usable

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terabytes of solid state storage, like I said before, is is 40 grand. Um

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All right. Let me just see if there's anything

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else. Apparently, I need to get myself a

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Megapro screwdriver, says James. Uh no more random bits falling out of the

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handle. Maybe I Maybe I should look into that.

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All right. David Lee says free Super Chat is included with YouTube Premium. Okay, thank you. Thank you very much.

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All right. So, this is it, guys.

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That was pretty much the video today is the physical build, having a look at the

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machine that we're going to be using to try to beat the LumaForge Jellyfish.

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Isn't that beautiful? I really wish that I had

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talked Seagate into sending over five more, cuz then it would be full, but

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it's actually Okay, we were trying to hit a price

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target, which is why I settled on 27. It wasn't uh it wasn't a totally arbitrary

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decision. Um

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I'm like super excited about this. So, I believe Patrick is flying up here in

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2 weeks. So, in 2 weeks, we're going to be filming, and then after that, we're

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going to be bringing this video to you guys.

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Actually, one thing I should do is fire it up real quick and make sure the thing

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works because it would put a significant

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damper on our plans if

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this server was damaged in shipping or something like that. So, let's go ahead.

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I I won't leave you guys in suspense. We're going to we're going to fire it up

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here. Uh VGA

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because that on-board server video, you got to love it, right?

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Uh mouse and keyboard What did we do with those cables? There

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they are. Awesome.

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I'm hoping it's pretty quiet. It should be. It's almost all Noctua fans except

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for the one in the uh except for the one in the power supply.

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Let's go ahead and fire it up.

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All right. Rock on. That's a pretty reasonable noise level.

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Loudest thing in the system is definitely the power supply. It's interesting. I thought they were going

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to send over um just like a consumer power supply

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unit for this, but they ended up going with a Zippy power supply. To be clear,

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I'm not complaining. That's a nice, high-quality server-grade power supply.

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Um it's just not what I had expected. I thought I was going to get like a

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Corsair RM series, kind of like their AV512.

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Oh, I guess now would be a good time to find out what kind of CPUs they put in here as well. That's another thing that

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um I still don't know uh from LumaForge. They wouldn't tell me

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what CPUs they're using because um

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that's I guess proprietary information

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or something. So, I'm just going to ask one of the folks that I know who owns

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one. Like that I don't get what you're trying to accomplish by not just answering my

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questions cuz clearly I'm going to find the answer. It's just you're wasting my

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time. So, then obviously that's not

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putting me in a better mood about all this. Not that I'm going to let my mood affect

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things. We're going to try to objectively beat it. All right, let's just go ahead and get

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this loaded up here. Sheesh.

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I think your porn comment earlier said on the bot storm there's currently like

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a million bots spamming porn. There's bots spamming porn? In YouTube,

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yeah. That's weird. Yeah.

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That's really weird. Huh.

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How about that? YouTube really is a very special place, isn't it?

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Man, these Supermicro boards take a long time to post, eh? The worst is when

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you're troubleshooting one of them because it's like

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3 minutes, you know, between loading up the OS and

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rebooting and detecting IPMI and all that kind of stuff. It's like 3 minutes

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for every reboot every time you try to like change something.

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Okay, so the cards report themselves as Avago, but I thought that they had

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actually been acquired since then cuz I thought Avago got acquired.

441
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Uh yeah, it's Broadcom. Broadcom, okay. There you go.

442
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So LSI acquired by Avago, Avago acquired by Broadcom.

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You can take a moment to appreciate the Stornext front plate.

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They asked if I wanted a a custom one with like our logo on it or whatever cuz

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they have this um like this direct-to-metal printer that

446
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they can use to do stuff like this. But I was like, "No, I actually kind of like

447
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the stock Stornext one." I think it's cool. Purple is an underutilized like

448
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performance color, I think. It's the best color. I love it.

449
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It's called Royal Blue. Yeah. Royal server.

450
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Come on, baby. Uh

451
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Uh

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One of these days, Supermicro, you guys might actually give a care about how

453
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long your boards take to boot. I'm not like

454
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I'm not holding my breath for it, but someday.

455
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Maybe.

456
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Come on. Okay, here we go.

457
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So, it's working. Um that stick of memory I pulled out may

458
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not have been re-seated correctly. 200 Wait, no yeah, that's right. Yep, 256

459
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gigs of RAM. Uh what do we got for CPU configuration?

460
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What are these? Uh Xeon E5 2620 V4s. These are actually

461
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not that state of the art. I'm uh I'd be interested to know why they haven't

462
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upgraded to some of the newer stuff. I guess maybe they found it doesn't matter.

463
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Well, I guess we're going to see. So, that's pretty much it for the video,

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guys. Thank you for tuning in to this live stream, which on YouTube probably

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won't end up being live. The reason for that is that YouTube actually took a

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full week, and I still don't know if it's actually done correctly, to

467
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transcode last week's WAN Show. That's why it never showed up on YouTube. There

468
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was no problem with the show or anything like that, but instead of being an

469
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hour-long video, uh YouTube was detecting that it was 2 hours long, and

470
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it was full of like weird skipping and and repetition. Um it was some kind of a

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problem on their side. They claim it was something to do with the outages that

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they experienced last weekend, but I don't actually buy it because the WAN

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Show from the previous week had the same bloody issue. So, what we're going to do

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with this video is we are going to upload it separately to YouTube, so

475
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it'll just be a regular VOD. Um so, sorry, guys, if we notify you twice, um

476
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but what are we supposed to do if they can't manage to take these live videos

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and publish them in a in a reasonable time

478
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frame. Like, we can't have people waiting a week to watch something. It's old news by that point. So, all right,

479
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that's it. If you guys disliked this video, you can hit that button, but if you liked it, hit like and subscribe, or

480
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maybe consider checking out where to buy the stuff we featured at the link in the video description. Also down there is

481
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our merch store, which has cool shirts like the ooh, it has cool hoodies like

482
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this one. It's finally in stock. lttstore.com.

483
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So, Woo! I actually love this thing. And

484
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one of the top features is the phone pocket. So, it's big enough to hold an

485
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iPhone 10S Max or a Note 9 and secure

486
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enough that your phone doesn't come out. Which I think it's pretty sweet, but you

487
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can get it out easily. See that? So, it's just There's your technique for

488
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putting it in. There's your technique for getting it out. But, if you're like,

489
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you know, bending over to pick something up, you can never have your phone drop out

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again. Huh? All right. Peace, guys.