1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:06,880 um do you want the camera to be adjusted oh yeah we've got a little bit too much 2 00:00:04,319 --> 00:00:06,880 head room do you 3 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,840 mind I got that's good 4 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:31,759 yeah and we're live ladies and gentlemen 5 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:35,480 welcome to the W show Luke is cavorting 6 00:00:31,759 --> 00:00:38,000 about in Asia so he couldn't join us but 7 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:43,039 that's okay we have budget Luke sorry is it discount discount Luke sorry cavort 8 00:00:40,719 --> 00:00:47,239 jump or dance around excitedly I hope he's cavorting yeah oh I'm pretty sure 9 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:50,840 he's cavorting he loves hanging out over there I'm pretty sure that's the only 10 00:00:48,879 --> 00:00:55,280 reason that he wanted to go to computex Luke if you're watching I'm on to you 11 00:00:53,199 --> 00:01:00,320 it's the only time he corts yes the only time he corts I rarely Cort but when I 12 00:00:58,199 --> 00:01:04,119 do it's in Asia he actually can really Cort over there because a lot of the 13 00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:10,880 time the ceilings are too low Oh I thought you going to say he would like squish people step on them like little 14 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,320 ants yeah he really does stand out there 15 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,560 get back I'm cting in a very real way so 16 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:22,240 uh yeah we've got a really great show for you guys today and I'd love to tell you about it except my uh laptop is 17 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,400 updating so maybe James can tell us what some of the great topics we have are 18 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:31,799 we're going to talk about our favorite things from WWDC I actually do have some favorite 19 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:35,960 things from WWDC like not everything was bad okay no spoilers though okay and 20 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:41,119 remember when YouTube was down last weekend remember when the W show was 21 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:46,439 supposed to go up last weekend there's lots of things 22 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:49,880 conspiracy and AMD and Samsung partner 23 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:53,600 up for ultra low power graphics in 24 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:59,159 possibly mobile phones all that and more 25 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,159 at 11 News at 11 roll the intro 26 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:10,520 this is great I just like the timing uh someone messages how rich is lonus in 27 00:02:07,039 --> 00:02:12,920 the chat and someone super chats 99 28 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Cents not so rich doesn't appreciate this it's actually less than 99 Cents 29 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,560 because YouTube takes a cut of that oh they take a cut of super chats yeah of 30 00:02:18,959 --> 00:02:26,680 course of course they do of course they seven uh no I think it's more than that 31 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:30,640 yeah I actually don't know super chats 32 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:33,560 um while we definitely appreciate people 33 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:38,640 generosity um are not really a needle mover for us um and part of it is that 34 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:43,080 YouTube does take a significant portion of it so super chat uh YouTube portion 35 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,599 sorry I have to look this up because I actually don't know how much money does 36 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,640 YouTube take from superchats this is an article on stream Geeks and I should 37 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:53,599 probably be looking it up on my laptop now that it's um not updating anymore 38 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,400 and then I could actually share this with you how much I thought we were 39 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:02,280 directing all the super chats to Brandon now from Super no no that was just that 40 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:07,280 one time hey Brandon you got your free lunch right yeah okay good just checking 41 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,120 those super chats move the needle for you um guys please continue super chats 42 00:03:09,799 --> 00:03:17,319 please he got he got a free he got a free lunch out of it so that's pretty good I guess nice all right how much 43 00:03:14,879 --> 00:03:21,640 money does YouTube take from Super chats wow this is a really long article for 44 00:03:19,159 --> 00:03:26,720 just like search on dollar sign or search on perc contr 45 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:29,959 F uh you have seen our 100% YouTube live 46 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Super Chat blah blah blah uh okay when I 47 00:03:29,959 --> 00:03:35,760 clicked the estimated Revenue in YouTube's analytics it was roughly 30% 48 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:40,640 less than the total Super Chat amount um so they take a 30% cut of super chats 49 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:45,159 through YouTube That's exorbitant well yes and no it's exorbitant hold on a 50 00:03:42,959 --> 00:03:50,159 second yes and no it's not quite that simple because for one thing Google 51 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:55,599 while they do use their own payment processor which saves them a lot um if 52 00:03:53,640 --> 00:04:00,239 they were using a third-party payment processor you could be looking at as 53 00:03:57,519 --> 00:04:05,680 much as 30 cents or more per transaction plus a percentage of the 54 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:10,239 transaction so even if I was just uh using stripe or brain tree to take a 55 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:15,799 dollar from you over the internet thank you very much I would still be giving 56 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:20,440 30% of that over 30% of that to my payment processor this is something that 57 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,400 we've learned the hard way um as we've 58 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:27,240 uh developed Floatplane uh Luke's not here so we're not going to talk about Floatplane ATT 10 today but uh my 59 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:31,919 apologies to the Floatplane fans out there only blockchain can save us but 60 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,560 well save us blockchain yeah but the transactions aren't even free with 61 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:40,160 crypto like some cryptocurrencies have very high transaction fees especially if 62 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:44,360 you want the transaction to go through in a reasonable amount of time yes I 63 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:49,800 know it depends but the some of the more commonly used ones have extraordinarily 64 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:53,039 High transaction fees whatever man it's 65 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,520 the future all right it's it's hard to 66 00:04:53,039 --> 00:04:59,800 have a real conversation but then I mean you don't cost as much as Luke so 67 00:04:57,919 --> 00:05:03,120 discount conversation I don't okay no wants to have a blockchain conversation 68 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,080 right now I just wanted to make the joke and leave it at that okay that that's 69 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:12,280 fair you know um bitcoin's up what like 60% this year though uh last I checked 70 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:15,840 it was is it like 10 grand I don't I don't know honestly I'm like see now 71 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:21,120 we're having a blockchain conversation I'm I'm out it's 8 Grand it's 72 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:24,600 $8,000 so I'm I'm out I don't care anymore so I'm I'm actually trying not 73 00:05:23,039 --> 00:05:29,280 to pay too close attention to it I'm just like you know what forget it you 74 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:33,360 guys enjoy your crypto thing call me when it's actually manageable to 75 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:37,880 integrate as a payment system uh call me when you know the Canadian Banks and the 76 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:44,039 Canadian government have all decided on a way to U deposit and withdraw this 77 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:49,080 stuff and uh not have everything disappear mysteriously in a weird town 78 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:53,800 in India where people are known for going to fake their own deaths um you 79 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:59,639 you heard about that right not specific one no um so uh what's the uh what's the 80 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:04,680 crypto exchange that went down uh the the one that was like based out of here 81 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,400 oh what was that called I don't know they all have the same 82 00:06:07,479 --> 00:06:15,840 name uh out of business owner died hold 83 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:19,120 on what was it quadriga yeah quadriga um 84 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:21,280 so it's a 30-year-old CEO and co-founder 85 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:27,160 died of complications arising from Crohn's disease while traveling in India 86 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:31,280 supposedly except the circumstances of 87 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:33,280 his death um r spirous H yeah but did 88 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:36,759 that ever come to a conclusion I don't believe it has at this point but I 89 00:06:35,319 --> 00:06:45,280 haven't been paying really close attention to it because like I said I'm out I hope he's alive I really do I like 90 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:49,120 over a hundred million dollar of assets like are you saying you've never 91 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:53,440 fantasized about faking your own death it's just such a funny thing to think 92 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:58,080 about it's illegal as far as I know isn't it I think it is yeah I mean you 93 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:03,160 know the thing is that you know most of the people uh who do it you know never 94 00:07:00,599 --> 00:07:07,400 get prosecuted because they're actually dead I love how there's like a mecca for 95 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:12,759 this like if you want to fake your death come here how can you have a good fake 96 00:07:11,039 --> 00:07:18,639 if everyone knows oh he died in that town no one really dies there like their 97 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,840 whole newspapers obituaries like fake 98 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:23,639 news yeah so I don't know like there's a 99 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,680 place there's a place there I forget what the town is called or like like the 100 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:32,879 area is called but they're really well known for document forgeries including 101 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:36,960 things like birth certificates and death certificates and that happened to be and 102 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:40,960 this could be a tinfoil hat conspiracy theory in fact YouTube chat is probably 103 00:07:38,919 --> 00:07:45,120 blowing up being like I personally oh wow it is blowing up like I personally 104 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:49,240 saw the dead body or whatever like good for you uh so yeah like I said it's 105 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:55,680 possible this is all nonsense it's a hub for makeup artists um but it's it's possible 106 00:07:54,199 --> 00:08:01,840 someone says not illegal you have the right to disappear yeah you can disappear but you can't um you can't 107 00:08:00,039 --> 00:08:09,639 forge a death certificate because that is a legal document so that would be 108 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:12,840 about like forging a um uh a land deed 109 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:15,479 like you can't do that and because there 110 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:22,440 are such large incentives for some people for faking their own death 111 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:24,800 um there's definitely definitely laws 112 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:29,159 that make it so you you can't do that faking your death is sometimes called 113 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:35,000 pseudocide pseudocide that is great I like that that's cute that's 114 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:38,080 clever wow well don't know if it's 115 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,039 illegal or not yet but how about Apple 116 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,839 stuff how about it how about it all right well why don't we why don't we 117 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:47,640 bring up the WWDC news and kind of kind of talk 118 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:51,279 through some of our favorite things the wock why would I go to the W there's 119 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,200 links there in I know but the people who work on that they just don't do a very 120 00:08:52,959 --> 00:08:55,200 good 121 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:03,959 job it's funny cuz he's the one who works works on the W uh all right all 122 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:09,680 right all right all right so there's like nothing in here I said follow the 123 00:09:06,399 --> 00:09:12,680 links the links you I didn't build this 124 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:14,240 out because you already made videos 125 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:20,240 about this you know this we all know this stuff all right so should we start 126 00:09:16,839 --> 00:09:22,560 with the Mac Pro now I've kind of said 127 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:27,800 everything that I want to say about the Mac Pro um I there oh actually I do have 128 00:09:25,839 --> 00:09:33,240 a couple small Corrections from the video that I made earlier this week so I 129 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,959 had speculated that the the very low-end 130 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:39,760 system configurations that only have four sticks of memory might not support 131 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:44,399 six Channel memory but remember right after the Mac Pro announcement uh we 132 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:49,000 missed it Intel announced their 3000 Series Zeon W lineup that was going to 133 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,399 be the processors in the Mac Pro and it does go all the way down to eight cores 134 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:56,600 and apple apparently confirmed that no there will only be one motherboard so 135 00:09:54,320 --> 00:10:02,200 they're just shipping a six Channel motherboard six Channel CPU and they're 136 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:08,000 just putting four sticks of memory in it because six grand for eight an eight 137 00:10:05,079 --> 00:10:12,480 core processor makes a ton of sense something now from like an optimization 138 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:17,000 standpoint what what does that mean um it means that you're getting effectively 139 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:23,040 66% of the memory bandwidth that you otherwise would now with that said 140 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:26,279 you've only got a p8 core processor so 141 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:28,480 who cares I guess because it's not like 142 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:32,440 uh it's not like a 28 core where you could legitimately have a workload 143 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,600 you're running on it that needs all of that memory bandwidth like you just 144 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:41,880 don't have the compute to justify it anyway but I also just don't think that 145 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:47,160 an eight core configuration of this machine should exist it doesn't make 146 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:51,720 sense like so much of the price of this thing is making up for the R&D of the 147 00:10:49,079 --> 00:10:57,720 case design seems to me that you're just not getting any value on the on the low 148 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:59,760 end on the low end I think there's 149 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:03,680 people already defending it but don't I don't understand these people because on 150 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:11,760 the low end you should just be buying a latest gen iMac it has an 8 core 151 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:13,680 processor ECC memory is a really it's a 152 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:19,720 really interesting feature because I even went as far so we published a very 153 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:22,279 negative review of Intel's previous uh 154 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Zeon W lineup the one that was based on their LGA 2066 platform and what Anthony 155 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:33,120 and I concluded and I ultimately said in the video 156 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,399 was these things are a rip by an HDT 157 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:40,519 processor because the only differentiating factor is that they 158 00:11:38,079 --> 00:11:45,440 support ECC memory which if you really needed it well AMD supports ECC up and 159 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:50,320 down their entire lineup oh wow all the way from Threadripper down to ryzen 3 160 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:55,480 so if you absolutely must have that there might be an AMD option for you go 161 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:58,839 check that out and you lose overclocking 162 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:01,480 support which depending on your workload 163 00:11:58,839 --> 00:12:06,760 might actually make sense because you're using their c620 whatever chipset 164 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:10,320 instead of their x299 chipset which has overclocking support builds into it so 165 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:17,680 we ultimately concluded that you were paying anywhere from 500 and over 166 00:12:13,079 --> 00:12:20,399 dollars for a tradeoff in features that 167 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:24,320 may or may not have any value to you and um Intel was upset about my conclusion 168 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:29,920 because they said well actually you know zon W 169 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:31,880 is good for workstations and I went 170 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,680 why is it good and they said well because it's made for workstations and I 171 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:38,920 said well what makes it made for workstations 172 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:44,519 exactly and they said Well it has ECC support and I said well that's nice um 173 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:50,120 what does that do for me because here's the thing the perception for a lot of 174 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:52,440 years was that Intel xon processors Were 175 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:58,399 Somehow better than their consumer equivalents and there have been times 176 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:02,160 when they actually were but over time 177 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:06,120 the R&D cost to make a new CPU design 178 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:08,839 has become such an enormous part of the 179 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:14,760 cost of a processor that by the time you've done all that R&D it's actually 180 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,800 cheaper to just make the same CPU and 181 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:22,839 put it under two different brands with some features turned on or turned off 182 00:13:20,399 --> 00:13:28,880 and a feature that you would turn off would never be 183 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:34,160 stability like it is not think about it it is is not an Intel's interest for 184 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:43,279 their Core Series processors to crash once every 422 185 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:46,839 hours for to what end so Intel can talk 186 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:51,000 about how Zeon W is really 187 00:13:46,839 --> 00:13:54,959 stable but if you ask well is core I9 188 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,959 not stable they just kind 189 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:04,560 of yeah it's stable and it is so what I 190 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:06,000 asked them to do was okay guys let's 191 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:13,519 talk about ECC I want to do a video where you guys 192 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:17,279 take me to like uh you know Sandia 193 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:21,000 National Lab or something and and we we 194 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:24,240 we simulate a solar a solar event we we 195 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:27,079 flip a bit we actually flip a bit on a 196 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:33,120 memory chip and show that this system recovered from it and this one didn't 197 00:14:29,839 --> 00:14:34,519 and they were like we can't do that like 198 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:41,240 they physically can't do that they don't have the instruments to do that 199 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:44,399 they wouldn't clarify okay they were 200 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,560 just like we can't do that and so I said 201 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:52,040 well then my conclusion about your processor given that there is no 202 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:57,680 meaningful demo I also I before we got as far as like going to a laboratory and 203 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:00,519 like doing this um I asked well give me 204 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:04,560 a demo mhm give me something I could do on these two machines that shows that 205 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:10,040 this one is more stable than this one and they were like we don't have any 206 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:11,600 workload like that I kind of 207 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:18,759 went okay thanks guys um like the thing you 208 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:22,279 got to understand is that ECC does do something in the event of an accidental 209 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:27,639 bit flip it is supposed to recover from it the thing is that each subsequent 210 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:30,639 generation of DDR technology has also 211 00:15:27,639 --> 00:15:33,800 added more resilienc against accidental 212 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:35,720 errors so I'm not saying it doesn't have 213 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:41,399 a value today I'm just saying that it's not a value that even Intel was able to 214 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:45,120 design a test for me to be able to demonstrate um at least the people I 215 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:51,639 talked to there if anyone from Intel's watching and knows a way that we can do 216 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:54,720 this yo HMU as the kids say 217 00:15:51,639 --> 00:15:56,000 right I'm almost as old as you now man 218 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,759 yeah well fair enough yeah and you're going to be uh wait is that public 219 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:04,079 knowledge or no yes oh okay and he's going to be a dad too yeah he's going to 220 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:08,319 be the second dad at lonus Media Group I was going to say second parent but my 221 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:13,160 wife works here she's also a parent that's true she's very obvious she's 222 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:18,240 yeah she is she's a parent oh that was great oh let me I'm going to let that 223 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,240 wash over me for a 224 00:16:18,639 --> 00:16:26,480 second yeah so it's like a feature that is over serving most people and being 225 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:32,199 disrupted by the same company's other features yes 226 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:36,120 anyway um I forget where I was going with this right you should just buy an 227 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:42,079 iMac because it's a faster 8 even thermal throttling I think it's still 228 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:46,000 faster than this uh this zon W 229 00:16:42,079 --> 00:16:48,000 because whatever or something um and 230 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:52,759 then that even ignores the iMac Pro which starts at five grand and uh I 231 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,199 think what does what does its core count start at I feel like we need to go like 232 00:16:54,680 --> 00:17:01,160 look at that now iMac Pro Apple 233 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,839 USA I don't think this is going to take me to the US site no it's not well 234 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:10,520 whatever we'll just do it manually thank you very much for that oh the prices I 235 00:17:09,039 --> 00:17:15,600 love how this stuff is always need the pric aut no I do need the prices because 236 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:20,400 so the the Mac Pro is going to start at six grand so if we have a look at where 237 00:17:18,360 --> 00:17:24,880 the iMac Pro starts because remember these are not the same processors they 238 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:29,080 fit in an entirely different socket but from a performance standpoint I don't 239 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:33,600 believe Intel has changed anything like I clock speed for clock speed core for 240 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:38,640 core they should be quite similar so let's go ahead and have a peeky Boo at 241 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:44,440 what we get for this so we get a 3.2 g gahz xon w that turbos to 4.2 and what 242 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:49,840 do we get with the Mac Pro we get a 3.5 that turbos to 4.0 so let's configure it 243 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:55,640 we've got a grand to spend because they both come with 32 gigs of RAM in the 244 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:57,760 base configuration and uh two no this 245 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:02,480 one has a one terab SST out of the box of course it does right so we can add 246 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:07,000 another two freaking cores and I'm not saying the iMac Pro is a perfect machine 247 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:12,280 I'm just saying it also happens to include a display um with a 248 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:16,760 stand and it'll outperform the base model Mac Pro on paper we will have to 249 00:18:15,159 --> 00:18:20,760 actually test that we might have to crack open our iMac Pro again oh stop 250 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:27,799 cracking it put like different processors in stop cracking it please H 251 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:30,039 I know I know and just oh man the I 252 00:18:27,799 --> 00:18:35,360 think the graphics card is the most embarrassing thing about this stock 253 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:41,640 configuration really a 580x let's fire up L newegg.com now I 254 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:47,039 know it's a radon Pro or whatever but you guys got to understand that is a 255 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:50,120 that just B that that no that is just a 256 00:18:47,039 --> 00:18:55,000 driver switch that AMD flips it is the 257 00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:56,679 same bloody card um 580x hold on a 258 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,400 second you're not typing yeah I'm I'm working on it I'm working on it so what 259 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:08,000 is a 58 X cost these days here's an MSI armor whatever 260 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:11,480 $200 like we're talking a $200 graphics 261 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:13,080 card in a system that costs six grand so 262 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:21,679 basically the message that apple is sending with this base configuration is 263 00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:24,840 buy this if you're the kind of like ego 264 00:19:21,679 --> 00:19:27,880 images everything that wants to 265 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:30,760 have a Mac Pro as a status symbol but 266 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:35,360 actually doesn't care at all about what's under the hood of it at all yeah 267 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:42,280 that's the message it's like being like Oh I need a Mercedes to impress the ladies and everyone else is like yeah 268 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:44,159 it's the cheapest one yes but as long as 269 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:48,600 the ladies don't know that I guess you're good then you're good so as long 270 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,919 as still great cheese ladies who aren't into 271 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:58,400 cars um what what else did I did I want to say about the Mac Pro right okay so 272 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,280 we know it's all the same socket so um no you don't get a different motherboard 273 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:06,679 it's just stupid and now I've had people say well what if you want to upgrade in 274 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:09,320 the future well then you should use your 275 00:20:06,679 --> 00:20:15,320 current machine for now and you should upgrade when you order because upgrading 276 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:19,559 computers is very rarely a good idea now I'm not saying you should get the you 277 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:23,840 know most loaded out memory configuration in fact there's a good 278 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:27,320 chance that companies like OWC or I fix it are going to have kits that you can 279 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:32,600 use to upgrade that stuff for much cheaper 280 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:34,559 um I'm just saying that you're basically 281 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:38,440 buying a processor that you then are just going to put in a bin and trust me 282 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:44,679 no one else is going to want it because the kind of motherboard that's going to 283 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:47,760 fit an LGA 3647 zon W is going to cost $ 284 00:20:44,679 --> 00:20:49,840 55600 nobody buys a board like that and 285 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:55,960 puts a cheapo 8 core processor in it that's stupid it's an imbalanced machine 286 00:20:53,559 --> 00:21:02,440 that's my point it's six grand it's got a throwaway processor a throwaway Gra 287 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:04,760 graphics card and memory that honestly 288 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:09,600 let's see it's 32 gigs so what is that is that 8 gig sticks so that limits your 289 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:16,960 total upgradeability as well because it's only got 12 memory slots so 32 * 3 290 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,559 is what like 96 96 gigs of RAM like 291 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:23,720 that's probably Lots but you're better off getting 16 gig sticks because that 292 00:21:21,679 --> 00:21:27,799 doubles the overall expansion like if if upgradeability is what you've got in 293 00:21:25,279 --> 00:21:30,760 mind don't buy parts that you have to throw away and that no one will 294 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,919 ultimately want so why do you think Apple makes this skew they make the skew 295 00:21:32,919 --> 00:21:39,360 for the for the ego people do you think it's it's their most profitable build 296 00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:44,720 out no no I think they're absolutely it's just because people will buy it I 297 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:51,360 think that they are trying to maintain not just a profit margin but also a GP 298 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:56,159 dollar profitability to this product because my what you mean by GP dollars 299 00:21:53,400 --> 00:22:00,440 uh gross profit dollarss okay so so they just want to have coverage of as wide a 300 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:05,320 swath the market as possible yeah so so they want to hit the lowest price point 301 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,440 they can while still making what they 302 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:11,200 would have expected to make regardless of which skew they sell on the core 303 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:17,919 components that they're selling which are ultimately the case a license for 304 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:23,520 macOS which is ultimately tied to the main board the sorry the logic board but 305 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:26,799 if that's the case then this and if this 306 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,080 product is overlapping with performance- 307 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:33,039 wise with the other products as you just showed us then it's cannibalizing those other 308 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:37,919 products to me that doesn't make sense unless it's the case that at Apple those 309 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:43,760 teams are kind of segregated and each team is responsible for getting as as 310 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:45,679 much gross profit on its product line 311 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,400 actually and they're competing teams I doubt it works that way I think Apple's 312 00:22:47,159 --> 00:22:52,159 a little bit smarter and a little bit more organized than that I suspect that 313 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:56,120 the only reason they wouldn't care about this cannibalizing their other products 314 00:22:53,799 --> 00:22:59,880 is that it's more profitable or as profitable so ultimately it doesn't 315 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:04,320 matter what you buy okay um and I would suspect based on the load out of 316 00:23:02,279 --> 00:23:09,240 something like an iMac Pro I suspect that this is a higher margin produ M uh 317 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:14,720 even if they are assembling it in the US as I I think they had committed to doing 318 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:19,679 don't quote me on that though okay um so so yeah they just have a they just have 319 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,600 a base amount of GP dollars that they 320 00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:28,600 need to make in order to make this product make sense for their 321 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:30,200 shareholders and well screw you you you 322 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:36,559 get to buy a config that doesn't make any sense because remember too imagine 323 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:39,880 this imagine if it didn't start at 6,000 324 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:42,240 okay imagine if it started at 12 13,000 325 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:47,279 okay people would be outraged about that too and instead of it just being nerds 326 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:52,760 like me that are going to break down the spec and go well this is imbalanced this 327 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:56,600 doesn't make sense um you know you've effectively you've effectively bought 328 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:03,279 you know uh um that x for case that we showed the 329 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:05,120 like $1,300 case and you know put an 330 00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:09,000 entry-level CPU and graphics card in it like you're an idiot you know the the 331 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:14,880 people who are mad right now are the giant nerds whereas if they announced a 332 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:19,120 product that was that started at $133,000 everyone would be mad right 333 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:23,919 they're their like common customer would feel alienated that's right yeah okay 334 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:30,120 now it seems attainable even though what you're buying is essentially stuff to 335 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:36,600 throw away and upgrade later if you are intending to do any serious work with it 336 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,919 okay how about the monitor though uh 337 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,039 yeah we can talk about the monitor 338 00:24:39,919 --> 00:24:45,520 so I can't wait to see it it's going to be a great monitor let's say that it's 339 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:49,600 going to be a great monitor oh the monitor I'm pretty excited about 340 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:54,000 actually now Brandon was actually telling me about um a really interesting 341 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:57,960 post that someone created where their main problem with the monitor was not 342 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:03,120 necessarily its Hardware capabilities but whether or not Apple was going to 343 00:25:00,919 --> 00:25:08,720 adhere to any of the existing standards for HDR because if Apple comes in and 344 00:25:06,679 --> 00:25:12,720 says okay we're competing with the the Flanders of the world you know we're 345 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:17,240 talking 30,000 plus dollar displays um so so this person's problem 346 00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:24,080 with it at that point was it doesn't have enough local dimming zones it's going to have Bloom it's just it's 347 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,919 simply not suitable um versus if Apple 348 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:32,880 was coming in and they wanted to compete with sort of the the more 349 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,880 the more average creation monitors um 350 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:40,640 they were saying that well Apple needs to Apple needs to just 351 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:45,520 be aware of and adhere to standards like hdr10 that already exist instead of you 352 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:49,360 know forging their own path with this uh what what do they call it xdr extreme 353 00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:54,480 dynamic range or something like that I can't remember exactly exactly what 354 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:58,399 their wording was for it um now I I 355 00:25:54,480 --> 00:26:00,799 think that with like apple isn't perfect 356 00:25:58,399 --> 00:26:05,840 but they tend to be good at designing an end-to-end workflow what I suspect is 357 00:26:04,159 --> 00:26:09,919 that right around the time this Mac Pro launches they're going to have some new 358 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:15,440 workflow tools within Final Cut within macOS that are going to make working 359 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:17,720 with HDR content easier and I think that 360 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:24,320 they they're going to have to acknowledge that there are standards 361 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:26,240 like hlg um hdr10 Uhl Vision that 362 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:33,080 already exist and that they have to make their tools work for I I I am not as 363 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:35,919 pessimistic as um that person was but um 364 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:40,240 I also am not as well versed in it as they are so I'm going to be really 365 00:26:37,159 --> 00:26:43,679 interested to see how this how this goes 366 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:47,039 and how long this display is even that 367 00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:49,279 interesting for OLED only has to get a 368 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:54,240 little bit brighter to make more sense because remember it's high dynamic range 369 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:59,039 not necessarily how many knits you can pump through a display um so OLED only 370 00:26:57,159 --> 00:27:04,240 has to get a little bit brighter before for my for myself I'd rather be editing 371 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:13,240 I'd rather be creating on something that has no Bloom and 57 is 576 zones 532 I 372 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:17,679 can't remember how many it was but um on a 32 in yeah that's a lot of zones on a 373 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:22,039 32 in but it's sure as heck not an emissive display technology I we 374 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:28,200 actually we checked out a display with uh 52 512 zones just yesterday 35 in on 375 00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:34,960 a 35 in and so it's not quite an apple Apple's comparison but would you say 376 00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:39,320 based on what you saw that Apple's 500 377 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:42,880 to 600 class display on a 32 in is going 378 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:47,320 to be sufficient for like real color 379 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:49,559 accurate contrast accurate color work no 380 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,080 it depends on okay well it depends on the aggressiveness CU on the display 381 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:58,720 that you and I looked at it was which was the 382 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:59,640 pg35v sometimes known as BQ um it 383 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,960 had such aggressive um local dimming that there 384 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,640 was always Bloom and it was you could really see when you move the cursor from 385 00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:11,159 one little one inch one inch Zone to another that it was you missed when we 386 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:14,559 were playing Tomb Raider didn't you uh I played it myself earlier but I wasn't 387 00:28:12,679 --> 00:28:18,559 there I wasn't there with you did you play any scenes with really high 388 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,840 contrast a little bit okay I didn't notice any problems when I was G okay 389 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:26,360 cuz I was really impressed with how well it did when gaming it was only when on 390 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:32,720 the desktop it sucked on the it I think sucked is probably about the right word 391 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:34,919 yeah yeah yeah all I'm saying is like 392 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:39,360 even with that many zones 500 zones in that size they're still like they they 393 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,799 were about an inch by an inch still an inch by an inch still pretty big it's 394 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:51,000 big yeah and apples is going to be smaller but not that much smaller not 395 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:56,600 that much smaller no like maybe 08 of an inch or 85 of an inch but 10% smaller or 396 00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:01,559 something like that so cuz remember too we're talking about a 35 in display but 397 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:04,120 it's a 35 in 21 by9 display that is not 398 00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:10,320 in terms of actual display surface area that's not as much bigger as it sounds 399 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:13,840 compared to a 32 in um is it 16 by9 n or 400 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,880 10 I actually don't remember um but even 401 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,080 you even see Bloom on oleds I think it 402 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:23,200 just has to do with the perception of the eye though that's true that's true 403 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:29,120 you do see some Bloom on oleds but like you said I think part of it is just the 404 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,679 eyes contrast capabilities yep 405 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:36,279 um and that's actually another thing that's another reason why I do question 406 00:29:33,159 --> 00:29:38,919 how much brighter OLED really has to get 407 00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:42,320 for the HDR experience to be really really good on it because we're already 408 00:29:40,919 --> 00:29:47,080 at the point now where the brightest whites on an OLED right next to the 409 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:52,320 blackest blacks like my eye has a hard time seeing that line yeah so if we want 410 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:56,600 something like a like a candle burning in the middle of a dark room if we want 411 00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:03,000 it to bleed out if that's the filmmaker's desired effect I mean are we 412 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:07,360 that far off I just don't know how much more work is going to be put into OLED 413 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,640 because it seems like microed is kind of looming in like the 3 to five year 414 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:14,960 Horizon now and and Apple's one of the companies doing it at least they're 415 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,679 investing really heavily in it as far as as far as the public is aware anyway 416 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,679 yeah I don't know how big of displays they're planning on making with it 417 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,640 though it's supposed to be pretty scalable though right that's one of the 418 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:30,120 uh one of the selling points of microlet I believe is that it's kind of like you 419 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,399 can just scale it up or down now this was a really fun conversation that I 420 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:37,120 actually had with some of the folks at NVIDIA and I don't believe yeah no 421 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:43,519 there's nothing about this that would have been off the Record or nd8 or 422 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,519 anything like that but I was and pardon 423 00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:49,679 my ignorance every once in a while I get something completely wrong so I was 424 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,360 under the impression that when we talk about microled technology you know what 425 00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:57,519 we really need to do our sponsor spots because um we are we are running out of 426 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:02,880 time on the W show here today so don't let me let me get into that what a 427 00:30:59,519 --> 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00:33:10,200 see them glowing by now I don't think they're on I'm happy with this it looks 457 00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:11,880 cool dramatic um so my first exposure to 458 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:16,039 microed was Al I'm not the one looking in the light um was with the Sony Cletus 459 00:33:14,279 --> 00:33:20,519 display yep and have you heard of the Cletus yeah was that CS oh did you see 460 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:26,399 it I wasn't there that year but they had it the next year didn't they okay so the 461 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:28,320 Cletus display is really trippy because 462 00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:31,720 the way that it it's like a modular display and we've seen Technologies like 463 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,080 this before but it's a unique one because it's got these panels that are 464 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:39,519 about this big and then you just assemble them together into whatever 465 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:44,760 size and resolution display you want now that's not unique what's unique is that 466 00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:50,399 the Cletus display uses an emissive display technology like OLED except it's 467 00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:59,080 not oleds it's microleds okay so they've got these tiny 468 00:33:54,039 --> 00:34:02,399 tiny micro LEDs red green and blue and 469 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,880 they emit directly from the display so 470 00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:10,440 there's no backlight or anything like that but the way that they achieve near 471 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:13,200 perfect blacks on a cetus display is 472 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:19,240 that I forget what the exact number is but uh it's over made of black dots no 473 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:24,560 no no it's not is there like a bunch of black dots that you can see if you go really close to it no is it like an 474 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:29,599 illusion when you back up uh it's a little bit different than that though so 475 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:31,159 they actually allowed me to go up to it 476 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:35,839 uh here I'm just going I remember everyone was uh everyone was tense like 477 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:43,560 no don't go that close Okay Ultimate Picture blah blah blah where is it okay 478 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,280 uh where's the here we go okay right 479 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:54,040 because so the reason they can get nearly perfect blacks out of it is that 480 00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:57,320 99% of the Cletus display doesn't emit 481 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,599 light weird it's just it's actually 482 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:03,440 black so you're looking at this giant display 483 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:09,040 made that that emits light they're micro LEDs they're super bright but they're 484 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:12,079 actually tiny they're micro LEDs and all 485 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,599 the area around them is just black are 486 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:18,079 they clustered or are they spread out with lots of black in between they look 487 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:21,240 like this yeah okay yeah so you've got a red green and a it's either a blue or a 488 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:25,200 yellow I actually don't remember but you've got three sub pixels for each 489 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:31,359 pixel and the vast majority of the display is actually black but because of 490 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,760 the way that light spreads from a source 491 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:38,839 you actually have to get about 18 in from the screen in order for and it's 492 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:43,079 weird your eyes like go weird as you move through the threshold kind of click 493 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:49,440 in and then all of a sudden you go from seeing the entire image which has no 494 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:51,200 perceivable gaps in it to seeing just 495 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:58,400 these dots and they don't look like anything they just that's so trippy it's 496 00:35:53,280 --> 00:36:00,760 so weird okay so I thought that micro Le 497 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:08,359 displays were specifically this technology okay I didn't ever stop and 498 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:10,240 think about that a micro LED is just I 499 00:36:08,359 --> 00:36:14,200 think a small LED and you could do anything you wanted with it yeah um I I 500 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,680 didn't think about that there were other ways that people were planning to use 501 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,920 micro LEDs okay so I was talking to NVIDIA because they were talking about 502 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:27,400 these displays that they've that they've created with over 500 um local dimming 503 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:32,200 zones and they were talking about like yeah you know we see a clear path 504 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,960 forward because I'd love to see wait which NVIDIA displays have over 500 505 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:41,680 Deming well the one that we just checked out for one that's not NVIDIA ASUS okay 506 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:47,160 are you talking about the bfgs I'm talking about the NVIDIA driver module 507 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:52,640 and the um the full array backlight control module that's Nidia creates that 508 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:57,119 yeah so um okay that's actually an important point to clarify so they were 509 00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:04,440 talking about how um you know going from 300 84 zones to over 500 zones to using 510 00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:06,680 mini LEDs to micro LEDs they see this 511 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:12,800 very clear technology progression whereas like I'd love an OLED g-sync 512 00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:15,960 display and I was like hey you guys working on that and they're kind of like 513 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:19,800 you know they're vague right they're evasive we're working on everything you 514 00:37:18,359 --> 00:37:25,599 know what are we we're a technology company what are we not working like they basically it was not total 515 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,079 non-answer and when I drilled down um 516 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:31,839 where I ultimately like they wouldn't answer any questions about it but what I 517 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:38,920 ultimately realized is that because OLED is an emissive display with completely 518 00:37:35,319 --> 00:37:42,720 different characteristics in terms of 519 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:45,599 color mixing at different brightnesses 520 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:51,240 um you know making them color accurate um the way that the pixels switch or 521 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,119 rather they they don't take a long time to switch like NVIDIA would have to 522 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:59,480 completely reinvent the gsync module to run an OLED display so when they were 523 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:04,599 talking about this clear path forward to mini LED and microed I totally 524 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:10,400 misunderstood that they were talking about something like a Cletus display an 525 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:12,520 emissive display using micro LEDs what 526 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:17,520 they were actually talking about was using micro LEDs to have a much greater 527 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:24,040 degree of granularity in a full array backl I see okay so so what they're 528 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:28,240 looking for as a business then is is evolution rather than Revolution it's 529 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:33,359 like we have this tried and test stuff we just need to iterate to make it you 530 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:38,760 know just do this but do it harder do it smaller miniaturize it so what I 531 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:42,000 ultimately came away with was that full 532 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:45,119 array backlighting on LCD 533 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:49,200 displays is not going anywhere and where 534 00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:51,920 we're probably headed is many many many 535 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:57,800 more zones maybe where we get to the point where each zone is a mini LED or a 536 00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:02,440 microed so that the blooming becomes much less I don't remember what my point 537 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:06,960 was in all of this anymore I think we were just talking about um micrite 538 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:13,560 coming out eventually oh right app invest yes so microled coming out 539 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:15,839 eventually yes but maybe not in the form 540 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:21,560 that you might think because a micr Leed display could be an emissive display or 541 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:27,920 it could just be really really small LEDs micro Leeds mhm behind a regular 542 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:31,079 old LCD panel so yes micr displays are coming we just 543 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,480 don't know exactly what form they'll take and after that meeting with NVIDIA 544 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,000 I had a better understanding it doesn't make sense to keep them as transmissive 545 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,960 displays because when you have that many of them well it depends how many you 546 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:47,640 have if they're at almost the level of being like for each pixel is a Zone then 547 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,240 the beauty of it is that you turn it off and you get the the black levels of OLED 548 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:56,319 yes right and the pixel response times because the reason that LCDs have higher 549 00:39:54,319 --> 00:40:02,480 pixel response times than OLED is that it actually takes time liid cryst to TST 550 00:39:59,319 --> 00:40:03,880 that and to unst and that's to why it's 551 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,640 not as black because even when it's fully Twisted some still going to get 552 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:13,280 through so why would you give up on all those awesome benefits because you've 553 00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:15,560 invested the last 25 years in LCD then 554 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:20,800 get disrupted and you know how they work get disrupted that but that's it because 555 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:25,760 you know how they work because a lot of the time you can build even using an 556 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:30,599 inferior technology you can build a better display when you 557 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:34,520 understand the technology at play better and so yes get disrupted but the flip 558 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:40,240 side of that is Apple's display is already sort of 559 00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:45,800 groundbreaking in terms of its contrast and Peak brightness and all that the 560 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,839 thing is the thing is $6,000 MH so but 561 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:51,839 so is a bfgd what's the emissive one going to be that's exactly my point how 562 00:40:50,119 --> 00:40:56,720 disruptive is that technology going to be if it costs 50 Grand or whatever you 563 00:40:54,839 --> 00:41:01,520 know what I mean well they should event it depends they could end up in phones 564 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:06,599 it'd be great in your watch yes you know and I wonder if LG I'm sure LG is also 565 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,680 um investing in it's just kind of interesting because they also are going 566 00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:14,400 so hard into OLED but they don't want to be the caught flat footed either right 567 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:19,119 no one wants to be caught flat footed I think LG is still pretty heavily 568 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,920 invested in OLED only time will tell so 569 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:24,960 we promised in the video thumbnail that we were going to talk about not just the 570 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:29,359 monitor but also the monitor stand what monitor stand the one for the do come 571 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:34,160 with yeah the one it doesn't the one it doesn't come with so I guess the 572 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,680 argument here is that like the very 573 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:40,560 expensive very very expensive monitors that you referenced earlier uh those 574 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:45,839 don't come with stands either and it's just not in like in that category it's 575 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:52,079 not industry standard to have a stand hey Brandon can you bring me something 576 00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:54,680 that's really stupidly 577 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:57,720 overpriced like a a a handle or something you know you know what I'm 578 00:41:55,839 --> 00:42:00,240 talking about right okay yeah okay Brandon's gonna find something this 579 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,640 gonna be something related to a red for sure okay 580 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:09,599 so can I play devil's advocate for a moment here please I love Satan okay so 581 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:14,079 there's a you got something for me have two 582 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:19,000 things okay yeah that yeah what else you got how much is this 12.95 for two this 583 00:42:16,359 --> 00:42:23,760 is $12.95 for two okay wonderful uh how much is this 584 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:29,200 $2,950 is that still how much it costs us or Canadian US okay three grand us 585 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:34,160 all right um um this is three grand okay so we got a we got a couple we got a 586 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:36,760 couple things here okay so when I buy a 587 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:41,559 product my understanding is that it should come with pretty much everything 588 00:42:38,359 --> 00:42:44,319 that it needs to function right okay 589 00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:51,720 okay that's a very consumer Centric point of view now I would say that if I 590 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,119 were to if I were to graph out the now 591 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:58,960 that now that I have experience in the professional world if I were to graph 592 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:02,880 out my expectation of like cost versus 593 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:05,359 included accessories curve okay I would 594 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:10,720 say as the cost approaches zero your included accessories go down you expect 595 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:14,720 a more barebones experience so as the cost approaches zero as the cost of my 596 00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:17,880 original purchase approach is zero so if I buy the cheapest phone on the market 597 00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:25,160 I'm not that surprised it doesn't come with some headphones okay right okay 598 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,720 then as I as I step up in cost I expect 599 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:34,240 my experience to be more and more complete and when you buy something like 600 00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:34,240 a Galaxy S10 um you know it's got 601 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:52,520 your UPS on here do yeah we do theoretically we're live but the 602 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:58,280 camera's dead can you can you guys can you guys make sure the camera is going to turn back on oh yeah camera's on okay 603 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:01,800 we just sorry guys we just had we just had a short blackout it's called a brown 604 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:08,240 out uh no no it's called a brown out when it doesn't actually cut oh when it just goes yeah um a short blackout yeah 605 00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:11,920 wow we have to have a good name for that hey guys a mini Blackout um sorry what 606 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:17,119 was I talking about you were describing an inverted par okay yeah so so 607 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:20,599 basically you know I expect to get my my you know my headphones and and they'll 608 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,599 run bundles and stuff so maybe it comes with a Micro SD card for expansion and 609 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,280 blah blah blah blah blah and and a fast charger a fast charger you know like 610 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:33,520 access bundles well unless it's an iPhone yeah and then as I spend more 611 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:38,559 that starts go down and I get into professional grade rather than consumer 612 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:42,480 grade gear the manufacturer's expectation is that if you only have a 613 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:47,160 little bit to spend you expect very little if you have a moderate amount of 614 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:51,680 money to spend you expect a lot and if you have a lot of money to spend you 615 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:56,680 probably don't care about the crap we were going to include anyway and you're 616 00:44:53,800 --> 00:45:02,280 willing to pay more for a premium perfect P option so I think there's a 617 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:06,680 certain level of Fu you've got the money anyway pay more that goes on when it 618 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:13,359 comes to professional I think they would say that I think they would say that they wouldn't say because every because 619 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:15,559 each piece is ostensibly so highly 620 00:45:13,359 --> 00:45:20,160 engineered and high quality and so expensive you don't want and low volume 621 00:45:18,359 --> 00:45:25,960 you don't want to be paying for things you don't need that would be the way they would 622 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:30,680 say it they wouldn't say F you but it's just implied but if that were really the 623 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:35,520 case if they're really being altruistic then there wouldn't be a 624 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:37,760 $200 Vasa adapter it would just be 625 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:42,400 standard you could just clip it on there yes okay so let's talk about then so 626 00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:47,280 again playing playing a little bit of Devil's Advocate here I don't think that 627 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:51,520 Apple has missed the mark With Their audience at 628 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,359 all we are talking about a you don't think they're out outraging the same 629 00:45:53,319 --> 00:45:59,079 person they were afraid to outrage when we talked about the lower level I think 630 00:45:57,319 --> 00:46:03,480 they're going to outrage people but I don't think those were of the customer 631 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:07,599 for this product at all we're talking about a 632 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:12,440 $6,000 monitor once you get the anti-glare special etched glass coating 633 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:21,000 we're talking about a $6,000 machine that it hooks up to at that point it is 634 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:24,720 an 8% difference in cost to get the pro 635 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:27,440 stand H or just or or what percentage is 636 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:32,760 that or or we're talking like a 637 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:36,119 1.75% difference in cost to get a vas 638 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,559 amount right 1.5% that's all we're 639 00:46:36,119 --> 00:46:43,040 talking about well $200 is nothing people people who can afford that pee 640 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:46,400 the $200 a grand not 641 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:50,000 necessarily maybe they don't pee it but 642 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,640 maybe they can make that $200 back 643 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:59,079 because this is a tool that they use for actual work so I paid how much did I pay 644 00:46:54,760 --> 00:47:01,240 for this uh the 12200 bucks for two $100 645 00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:06,559 for two well yeah like a pair it's a set of two a pair is $1,200 okay so I paid 646 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:12,079 $600 for this let's break it down a little bit uh here's a piece of machined 647 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:18,640 aluminum here's a screw here's a little aluminum doohickey that you can twist uh 648 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:21,680 here's a button another aluminum 649 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,880 doohickey um here's a little ajusted do 650 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,960 hickey with another little do that on it 651 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,079 um here's a rubber handle let's go okay 652 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:35,920 so $600 but I did this because there's 653 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,800 nothing else on the market that has the 654 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,720 the same level of ergonomics and build quality that allows us to operate the 655 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:47,400 camera more comfortably so effectively I'm not buying some stupid aluminum 656 00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:51,440 doohickey I'm buying a camera I'm buying a camera operator whose back doesn't 657 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:55,160 need Cairo appointments every week that ultimately my company's Health Plan is 658 00:47:53,000 --> 00:48:01,200 going to pay for that's what I'm buying so it's a 659 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:03,800 different perspective and when it comes 660 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:09,880 to legitimate professional level gear I'm not talking about an iPad Pro that's 661 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,319 not professional equipment a MacBook Pro 662 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:18,359 is not professional equipment anymore people are doing real work on them but 663 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,880 Apple has sullied that product line they 664 00:48:18,359 --> 00:48:25,960 have made it about a status symbol that you can use to browse Facebook hot take 665 00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:29,480 more than just about actually getting real work done into delivering the best 666 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:33,400 possible performance now my thoughts may change when I I actually haven't watched 667 00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:37,440 our review of the upcoming 8 core MacBook Pro so I'm basing it on the one 668 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:43,200 that thermal throttled last apparently it's a lot better um but I'm talking 669 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:47,880 about actual tools that actual professionals will buy to actually make 670 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:50,880 money with them it's a different equation when you make money with 671 00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:54,960 something that you buy at least cognitively you can justify 672 00:48:53,680 --> 00:49:01,880 it sure also if you make more money with it 673 00:48:58,799 --> 00:49:04,599 than objectively mhm it's a good 674 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:11,119 investment wow hey do you know how much employee 675 00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:14,280 healthcare costs 600 bucks whatever or 676 00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:16,240 like or like if someone quit because I I 677 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:20,119 wouldn't I would couldn't provide the the ergonomic equipment that they need 678 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:24,720 to not be in pain uh do you know how much it cost to train a person mhm we're 679 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:31,240 talking thousands and thousands of dollars in Lost prod productivity 680 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:34,760 what this makes them happy all right H 681 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:36,640 what do I care well I want a better 682 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:40,599 chair which chair do you have now I'm just joking actually all right I have 683 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,920 had a really nice her Miller before at work it was pretty cool should we wrap 684 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:49,280 it up is that it super chats can we do some super chats oh we should really do 685 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:54,119 some super chats um just for YouTube's sake yes yes you know yeah here YouTube 686 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,799 Here's your here let's find the let's find the most expensive uh Super Chat 687 00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:02,480 YouTube can we get some here you go YouTube Here's 30 bucks uh from tytin 688 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:09,079 and Dougal hey lonus Paradox interactive of ck2 eu4 made a music video for their 689 00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:10,240 upcoming Paradox con will we get a music 690 00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:16,839 video for LTX will we get a music video for LTX I 691 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:23,079 have to confess I had not given that one Nan of thought well I can imagine us 692 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:25,440 having footage from LTX placed over 693 00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:28,280 music or with music and released as promotional material for the next one 694 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:35,400 but I don't think we're going to choreograph any dancing or get any sexy people in bikinis we could put us in 695 00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:39,839 bikinis is that something I can make you guys do I said sexy people in bikinis 696 00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:44,240 yeah I mean we're we're sexy aren't we compared to what lonus uh BH prototyping 697 00:50:42,799 --> 00:50:48,280 says would you ever consider fully building an entire production grade 698 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:55,200 computer case from scratch for a video in the future um absolutely in fact 699 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:57,720 we're doing that wood one um are we you 700 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:03,640 okay the wood the wood case did I did I okay making it from scratch no okay um 701 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:08,319 actually yeah that is something that we would consider doing um it would have to 702 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:12,240 be the right project I mean we have designed cases from scratch before my 703 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:17,520 personal rig is in a completely custom designed case that was built by protoc 704 00:51:14,079 --> 00:51:21,920 case um Anthony Berg hi Joseph thornier 705 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:25,119 hi Chad hi hey Chad blame the Dingus 706 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,079 more free Super Chat thank you um Jr 707 00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:31,920 Andrew mosac says do you think will lock out the PCI ports I sincerely hope that 708 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,480 they don't um at least not directly I think what Apple will do is they will 709 00:51:33,319 --> 00:51:39,799 limit the availability of drivers for devices to ones that they want plugged 710 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:44,359 into those PCI E ports just like they do with the Blackmagic egpu exactly just 711 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:48,760 like you can't plug an NVIDIA graphics card into a Macbook because Apple will 712 00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:53,720 not okay the drivers to be clear I actually had someone complaining um in 713 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:56,040 the comments on the Mac Pro video where 714 00:51:53,720 --> 00:52:01,640 I appeared to be blaming Apple for the rift between Apple and NVIDIA to be 715 00:51:58,359 --> 00:52:03,839 clear I don't I suspect that between 716 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:09,119 NVIDIA and apple you've got the two biggest egos in the entire industry and 717 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:13,160 it's no wonder they can't get along and it's probably equal parts both of their 718 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:17,960 fault actually it's probably more nidia's fault because they they screwed 719 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:21,359 Apple pretty good on those dying gpus back in the day uh carpentry says 720 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,319 Canadian dollars for the merch store please um sorry it's not going to happen 721 00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:31,040 anytime soon the vast majority of our audience is um in the US and the ones 722 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:35,119 that aren't quite frankly aren't in Canada either and the US dollar is kind 723 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,319 of the international currency blame Shopify we can't have multiple 724 00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:41,359 currencies oh apparently it's shopify's fault we can't have multiple currencies 725 00:52:39,799 --> 00:52:44,640 on it I'll double check but I think oh wow we just call you made me call out 726 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:51,400 Shopify and you haven't double checked it dang it Nick uh so you're saying you 727 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:56,240 don't care so you're saying you're rich so you don't care no I'm saying that I 728 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:59,920 use these products to make money think about it this way you don't you can 729 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:05,520 apply the same logic to anything as a as a parent whose kids 730 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:13,000 won't use it very often I could say a $75 Radio Flyer wagon is very expensive 731 00:53:09,319 --> 00:53:15,440 and I'm not going to buy one but if my 732 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:20,880 if my son were to say I'm going to get a job delivering newspapers I can deliver 733 00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:24,359 newspapers 30% faster with a Radio Flyer 734 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,920 wagon I could make back that money in s 735 00:53:24,359 --> 00:53:34,079 days of delivering newspapers now now it's not expensive it costs the exact 736 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:38,200 same amount of money it's just a matter of measuring that amount that it costs 737 00:53:36,119 --> 00:53:44,079 against the ROI that it delivers for the business it's a different calculation it 738 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:45,880 doesn't necessarily mean that you don't 739 00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:50,760 care about what the cost is it just means that there are other factors at 740 00:53:48,559 --> 00:53:53,599 play price is an arbitrary measure of value so if your value if you value it 741 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:58,240 differently than someone else does because of your circumstances then um 742 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,559 Scott says you crashed YouTube with last week's W show actually this is two w 743 00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:05,880 shows in a row that they haven't managed to process correctly so my intention 744 00:54:03,359 --> 00:54:09,720 today is to kill the live stream and then reupload it as a 745 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,599 VOD cuz they promised me it's not going to happen again but they also couldn't 746 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:19,839 offer an explanation as to why it happened last week and why it took an entire week for them to uh fix it Tyler 747 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:27,280 gaming says I'm a Linux user enjoy your very limited Suite of 748 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:30,079 creative professional software like come 749 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:33,920 on it's not that simple you know that um Tommy Gun says how's the 100K PC and 750 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:38,119 personal rig doing my personal rig's great James helped me upgrade it again 751 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:43,359 yesterday so I'm super stoked on that and 100K PC we have a video coming very 752 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,839 soon we shot that this week um okay I 753 00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:51,960 think I'm going to call that it thank you very much ladies and gentlemen we will see you again next week same bat 754 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:54,119 Time same bat channel oh I am blur 20 755 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,760 bucks sorry I will I will answer you do you know of a twoin one or convertible 756 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:01,319 laptop with pen support for drawing that can also game at approximately medium 757 00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:06,520 settings wow 758 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:10,520 uh I wouldn't I wouldn't count on finding that I would more look for 759 00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:13,040 something that has a good drawing surface that has Thunderbolt and I would 760 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:18,520 use an egpu uh when you're when you're gaming 761 00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:21,520 like I don't know what to tell you um or 762 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,640 I would wait for oh I would wait for 763 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,880 wait what I would wait for uh 10th gen 764 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:34,000 they're going to have better onboard graphics Alex P Prime from our editing team sent 765 00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:39,160 a Super Chat asking if this is a conflict of interest sending the Super 766 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:44,319 Chat what are you even for $2 what are you even I'm reporting him I'm putting 767 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:52,000 the user in timeout there timeout timeout a no all right bye 768 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:54,400 guys oh wait what the what the deuce 769 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:59,920 Rover yeah Rover apparently gets the whole thing Rover 770 00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:08,039 Red Rover us again H part of the intro it's dead and 771 00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:08,039 bye and it's gone