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I have in my very hands what is claimed to be the world's best processor for

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gamers and creators this is the brand

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new AMD ryzen 9950 X 3D a 16 core fairly expensive CPU

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that promises to make basically no compromises that's right you can have a

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CPU that has the horsepower for productivity without making compromises

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to gaming at least that's what AMD says

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with this brand new chip in here ooh

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look at that man CPU unboxings are so exciting hey look we're done all right

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video over for the uninitiated here this is one of AMD's 3D vcash enabled CPUs so

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they basically take their normal CPUs which to be fair a 99 50x not a normal

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CPU kind of the top dog at least until

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today and then they add a bunch of cash

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and no not like money I mean you need to

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add money but in exchange they give you a different type of cash cash that lives

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on the CPU it's kind of like the RAM in your system where it it holds the stuff

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you're actively working on for quick access except it's way faster than RAM

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like inordinately faster than RAM and so

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when you can have a good bit more than a normal CPU certain applications and

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especially games get a huge performance increase and that is the sell of this

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thing and there's even some application that aren't games that get a performance

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buff compared to the normal 950x which is a 16 core chip this 950x 3D has

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doubled the L3 cache from 64 megabytes

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to 128 megabytes and you might not think that that is that much but that L3 cache

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is literally multiple multiple times

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faster than your system memory and if you can keep crucial information really

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close to the CPU that means you can make things go really fast now this all

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sounds great in theory but how does it look in practice let's get a test bench

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oh my got this is heavy we've got an x870

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aorus Master motherboard here with some

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6000 cl30 tridon Z Neo RAM and AMD does

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still recommend 6,000 Mega transfers per second memory just with low

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latency now compared to the previous generation you know the 950x 3D was a

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good CPU but it did have its problems

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specifically now if you look at the inside of these CPUs it's not just one

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CPU like um well most of the CPUs have

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been for many many years uh AMD uses something called chiplet technology and

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they actually have basically two separate kind of like CPUs fused

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together on a PCB and they call them chiplets except that only one of the

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chiplets or eight cores of the 16 cores

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on the CPU get extra L3 cash the other

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eight just has the normal amount so if you're playing something like a game and

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the game decides to try to use the cores that don't have the extra cash but

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you're going to have a performance hit you're not getting that benefit so on

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the last generation it was sometimes a pretty noticeable issue where you were

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taking a big performance hit so if you only play video games and you barely do

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any productivity stuff where you can really take advantage of like 16 cores

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it wasn't a good idea to buy one of those chips but on this generation

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thanks to some software stuff which we'll see shortly they in theory fixed

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that which we'll show you in a sec I just need to get a cooler on here with

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uh some PTM 7950 phase change thermopad from LTT Store.com for graphics card we

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have an RTX 490 um this isn't the latest and greatest from NVIDIA but it is what

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AMD tested with in their press deck so that is what we're using for now while

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we wait for that to turn on let's talk a little bit more about the specific

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specifications of this CPU compared to last generation a lot of the specs on

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paper look the same so most of this is

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kind of architectural however there are some big ones compared to the 7950 X 3D

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the new version has the 3D vcash underneath the chip rather than on top

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and they use some fancy technology called through silicone bias to

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electrically connect it through the 3D V cache which you might wonder why the big

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thing is now you can have those cores sitting on top running at what whatever

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speed you want overclock to whatever you want whatever power you want and you

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don't have that insulating layer like stuck on top uh preventing you from

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cooling the cores properly so this new chip now has a 170 watt TDP like the

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950x non 3D the previous generation was

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limited at 120 watts we've got the nice new tsmc 4 nanometer node we have a

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little bit more L1 cache than last generation but other than that it's kind

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of like a 9800x 3D with eight more cores

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slapped right next to the ones with 3dv cache and in theory hopefully in games

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it performs pretty much the same there is technically higher Max boost clock

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which is interesting but what I suspect we'll see is that the cores without the

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3dv cache the extra ones are going to be able to clock higher than the ones that

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do have it and from what I understand there's actually a setting in the BIOS

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now where you can um pick your priority

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basically so if you run applic that don't really use the 3D vcash and you

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could benefit from higher clock speed you can actually tell it in the BIOS to

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prioritize using the cores with higher clock speed rather than the ones with vcash which is the opposite of the

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default behavior however if that's the case you probably shouldn't buy this CPU

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booted up we can take a look and make sure our cash is there woo

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128 megabytes of L3 cash she

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let's take a look at how this all works

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now I got this cool piece of software called Park control which is supposed to

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let you tweak like core parking which if you're not familiar basically just means

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that core is being like kind of temporarily turned off so that the

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software on the computer and the operating system tries not to use them

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and that is very important like I mentioned before when we're in a game we

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only want to be using the cores that have 3D vcash enabled since most games

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can't take advantage of more than like eight or so cores anyways and if you

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start dipping into the cores with less cash usually you get a performance loss so I'm going to try I'm going to try and

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load the built-in solitire and let's see

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if we can see hey look at that immediately so if I'm focused on

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Solitaire you can see that half of the CPU cores which is say 16 of 32 so

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that's the eight 3dv cache cores as well

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as their extra multi- threads are enabled and then the other half are

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completely parked or turned off so that the operating system doesn't use them

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and if we go into task manager this is taking its sweet time okay you can see

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we've got like the first block of cores or some of them are being used at least

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and then the rest of them had a spike and then now that the cores are parked

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there's no activity going on there whatsoever now specifically they've

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updated their provisioning package as well as the 3D vcash Optimizer both

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features that are part of the AMD chipset driver so if you have an

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existing 7000 series x3d chip like the 7950 X 3D with two ccds highly recommend

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updating the chipset driver you're going to get pretty much probably some free

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performance in certain games and then they also added a new thing which

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actually I can see in task manager here we can see that vcash performance

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Optimizer service but there's also now an application compatibility database

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service now what this application compatibility database service actually

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does it uses a Windows compatibility toolkit called processor count lie which

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as the name implies it'll just lie to the app and say oh I only have8 CP U

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cores and 16 threads so that they only use the vcash and it's for a specific

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set of games now it's important to note you need game bar installed if you want

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all of these optimizations to work because they rely on Game Bar to know

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whether or not a game is running at least to some degree and that's also

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helpful because if it doesn't detect it for some reason you can manually tag

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something as a game with game bar and then it should start to work which is um

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I want to try that actually oh I have to go Windows G while it's the active

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window oh I see it okay now and then I go hey there we go okay so remember this

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is a game tech power up GPU Z so if I click that close this now go back look

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at that it works you see now we've got

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16 of 32 cores only half of them are parked when we're using GPU Z and if I

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click off of it take it out of focus boom it UNP

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Parks the course so the system works now I know that some people don't like game

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bar but this way it's like a thing that's already built into Windows that

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you can use to flag apps and you don't have to run any like weird software it's

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already built into the chipset driver there's no like separate Intel

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performance Optimizer app that you have to open and play with it just pretty

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much just works let's look at the goo mean of all of the games we tested at

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low which is only the three it does still technically put the 9800 x3d on

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top at low but it's a close race and

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this again is only across three games uh I'm sure if you were to test across even

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more games you would see probably a tighter variance but overall that is a

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really good showing that makes me really excited about this chip wow rocket

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League can actually use some cores even at 1080p Max settings the 950x and x3d

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are on top neck and neck then the 9800

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and then Intel and last gen on the bottom we've got Warhammer yeah that

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seems pretty GPU Limited at Ultra they're all the same same story as we

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saw in f124 oh I almost forgot stellar uh this

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is kind of like a top down RTS game uh

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and this Benchmark specifically simulates one year of game time and

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while the numbers aren't crazy different uh this game is super consistent in The

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Benchmark with these numbers only varying on a given CPU uh about 1 second

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if that even so the 9950 x3d and the 9800 x3d are basically on par but we do

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have a bit of speed up from Intel from the non-3d VC variant and definitely a

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huge speed up from last gen and that is good to see in all the games we tested

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pretty much the 9950 x3d is performing

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as AMD said it's damn good for gaming

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but let's look at productivity because that's what this chip is really for the

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content creator the engine nerd the whatever who also games and look at that

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Puget bench in Photoshop it's really not

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a big difference it's a bit faster with a few more cores but man this is really

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close and in premere you get a little bit of a bump but overall this new chip

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is still on top uh even if the performance improvements are not huge in

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Adobe apps we all know how well optimized those are in the blender

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monster Benchmark it's neck and neck with the non- 3dv cache and faster than

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the rest good to see cinebench man Intel

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does really good in cin bench either way this is the only test we did I think

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where Intel's 285k is actually on par

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with these AMD chips and that is like really close if we go to single core

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Intel wins out a tiny bit in handbrake oh I lied uh Intel actually does have

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another spot where they're winning here uh a little bit above everything else

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but in h264 the 950x 3D and its non-3d

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vcash counterpart are on top with a good lead so in terms of productivity the

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9950 x3d is basically on top unless

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you're happen to be av1 encoding on CPU

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um or running cine bench in the other applications it it

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was right up there and in games it seems to perform pretty much neck and neck

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with the 9800x 3D um except for a couple

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edge cases there still seems to be uh I'd be interested to see if City

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skylines uh does see further improvements with some future chipset

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driver updates or if you might be able to remedy that with the game bar truck I

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told you guys earlier um but what I want to try now is all of those tests were

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done with PBO off and if you're not familiar PBO is like AMD's automatic

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overclocking thing you turn it on in the BIOS and it kind of removes a bunch of

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the power limits and stuff because this is a fully unlocked chip I want to just

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do that and run cin bench and see where we get oh actually before we do that

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let's check out the power and thermals cuz I'm really interested in that uh the

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9950 x3d average CPU power during a

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cinebench run around 200 Watts our

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temperatures were around 75 it's clocking you know between 5.2 and 5.5 is

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GHz even though Intel did Edge out like a tiny bit of a win it's it's at a fair

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bit more power you're talking at least 10% more power and it wasn't 10% more

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multi-threaded performance by any stretch of the imagination and at Max it

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was more than 10% you're talking 20 25%

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more power damn it almost seems like AMD made like a really good CPU here this

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thing crushes in gaming crushes in productivity and it does it while

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drawing less power even like like in a

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game if we look at F1 2024 at 4K with

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rate tracing on which is not going to be a huge CPU load you know what the

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average of the 285k is a tiny bit lower In This Very GPU bottleneck test I mean

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the 9800 x3d is like barely even drawing

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power if you're going for efficiency now to be clear these are two very limited

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situations um there are probably circumstances depending on your

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application where one might be more efficient than the other but overall

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seems like a very good showing for AMD um and those Intel chips are very

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efficient in certain applications honestly not a ton higher

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on the wattage I think we said the average before was like 200 and now it's 226 is

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based on the data I can see from the Labs testing with PBO on it looks like

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we're getting about 100 MHz more on average and our score is somehow lower

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woohoo compared to the motherboard default PBO not set to enabled but Auto

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we're doing about 2020 25 watts more on average and getting somewhere between 70

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to 120 more megahertz on average across

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the cores um but we did get a little bit lower score so who

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knows it uh it's definitely not something that's always going to make

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your stuff better I kind of want to just play games on this thing now but like

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overall this CPU seems like a banger what's the price this new chip the 9950

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X3 16 core 3D vcash seemingly monster

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uh is $6.99 it's the same price as last generation a fair bit more expensive

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than the non-3d cache variant and a lot more expensive than a 9800 x3d so if all

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you do is game that's still going to be your best gaming option but if you do

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other stuff things that can use more cores if you're running Premiere if

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you're doing I don't know crunching pie

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on your computer this chip as far as

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we've seen today can seemingly do both almost as good is a 9800 x3d in most of

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the situations we saw the 9800 x3d and the 9950 x3d were pretty much neck and

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neck and you're not compromising on the productivity to get that gaming prowess

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I mean this thing is a is an absolute unit of a processor and uh yeah GG AMD

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it's not cheap but if you use your computer for work and getting stuff done

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and making money this could be a very

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very good option if you also game and maybe check out the um 5600x 3D

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ShortCircuit I did a while ago that was uh that is still a really solid chip

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that's pretty cheap bye