{"video_id":"GjQK6rTfLL8","title":"The new “Best\" CPU! - AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D","channel":"ShortCircuit","show":"ShortCircuit","published_at":"2025-05-04T14:58:16Z","duration_s":1000,"segments":[{"start_s":0.16,"end_s":8.92,"text":"I have in my very hands what is claimed to be the world's best processor for","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.72,"end_s":11.04,"text":"gamers and creators this is the brand","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":8.92,"end_s":19.96,"text":"new AMD ryzen 9950 X 3D a 16 core fairly expensive CPU","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":17.6,"end_s":24.4,"text":"that promises to make basically no compromises that's right you can have a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.279,"end_s":30.279,"text":"CPU that has the horsepower for productivity without making compromises","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.08,"end_s":33.36,"text":"to gaming at least that's what AMD 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access except it's way faster than RAM like inordinately faster than RAM and so when you can have a good bit more than a normal CPU certain applications and especially games get a huge performance increase and that is the sell of this thing and there's even some application that aren't games that get a performance buff compared to the normal 950x which is a 16 core chip this 950x 3D has doubled the L3 cache from 64 megabytes to 128 megabytes and you might not think that that is that much but that L3 cache is literally multiple multiple times faster than your system memory and if you can keep crucial information really close to the CPU that means you can make things go really fast now this all sounds great in theory but how does it look in practice let's get a test bench oh my got this is heavy we've got an x870 aorus Master motherboard here with some 6000 cl30 tridon Z Neo RAM and AMD does still recommend 6,000 Mega transfers per second memory just with low latency now compared to the previous generation you know the 950x 3D was a good CPU but it did have its problems specifically now if you look at the inside of these CPUs it's not just one CPU like um well most of the CPUs have been for many many years uh AMD uses something called chiplet technology and they actually have basically two separate kind of like CPUs fused together on a PCB and they call them chiplets except that only one of the chiplets or eight cores of the 16 cores on the CPU get extra L3 cash the other eight just has the normal amount so if you're playing something like a game and the game decides to try to use the cores that don't have the extra cash but you're going to have a performance hit you're not getting that benefit so on the last generation it was sometimes a pretty noticeable issue where you were taking a big performance hit so if you only play video games and you barely do any productivity stuff where you can really take advantage of like 16 cores it wasn't a good idea to buy one of those chips but on this generation thanks to some software stuff which we'll see shortly they in theory fixed that which we'll show you in a sec I just need to get a cooler on here with uh some PTM 7950 phase change thermopad from LTT Store.com for graphics card we have an RTX 490 um this isn't the latest and greatest from NVIDIA but it is what AMD tested with in their press deck so that is what we're using for now while we wait for that to turn on let's talk a little bit more about the specific specifications of this CPU compared to last generation a lot of the specs on paper look the same so most of this is kind of architectural however there are some big ones compared to the 7950 X 3D the new version has the 3D vcash underneath the chip rather than on top and they use some fancy technology called through silicone bias to electrically connect it through the 3D V cache which you might wonder why the big thing is now you can have those cores sitting on top running at what whatever speed you want overclock to whatever you want whatever power you want and you don't have that insulating layer like stuck on top uh preventing you from cooling the cores properly so this new chip now has a 170 watt TDP like the 950x non 3D the previous generation was limited at 120 watts we've got the nice new tsmc 4 nanometer node we have a little bit more L1 cache than last generation but other than that it's kind of like a 9800x 3D with eight more cores slapped right next to the ones with 3dv cache and in theory hopefully in games it performs pretty much the same there is technically higher Max boost clock which is interesting but what I suspect we'll see is that the cores without the 3dv cache the extra ones are going to be able to clock higher than the ones that do have it and from what I understand there's actually a setting in the BIOS now where you can um pick your priority basically so if you run applic that don't really use the 3D vcash and you could benefit from higher clock speed you can actually tell it in the BIOS to prioritize using the cores with higher clock speed rather than the ones with vcash which is the opposite of the default behavior however if that's the case you probably shouldn't buy this CPU and look wow it's a computer you can even fit our sponsor on here secret lab their Titan Evo Ergo gaming chair is ready for both work and play it's got a whole bunch of adjustment options to keep you sitting in an ergonomically correct position like four-way lumbar support multi-directional armrests and even a few different size options you can even customize your chair with sleeves and swappable armrests for a personal touch plus they have a warranty period of up to 5 years so go to LMG g/ secretlab FC to get your own Titan Evo Ergo chair today and now that we're booted up we can take a look and make sure our cash is there woo 128 megabytes of L3 cash she let's take a look at how this all works now I got this cool piece of software called Park control which is supposed to let you tweak like core parking which if you're not familiar basically just means that core is being like kind of temporarily turned off so that the software on the computer and the operating system tries not to use them and that is very important like I mentioned before when we're in a game we only want to be using the cores that have 3D vcash enabled since most games can't take advantage of more than like eight or so cores anyways and if you start dipping into the cores with less cash usually you get a performance loss so I'm going to try I'm going to try and load the built-in solitire and let's see if we can see hey look at that immediately so if I'm focused on Solitaire you can see that half of the CPU cores which is say 16 of 32 so that's the eight 3dv cache cores as well as their extra multi- threads are enabled and then the other half are completely parked or turned off so that the operating system doesn't use them and if we go into task manager this is taking its sweet time okay you can see we've got like the first block of cores or some of them are being used at least and then the rest of them had a spike and then now that the cores are parked there's no activity going on there whatsoever now specifically they've updated their provisioning package as well as the 3D vcash Optimizer both features that are part of the AMD chipset driver so if you have an existing 7000 series x3d chip like the 7950 X 3D with two ccds highly recommend updating the chipset driver you're going to get pretty much probably some free performance in certain games and then they also added a new thing which actually I can see in task manager here we can see that vcash performance Optimizer service but there's also now an application compatibility database service now what this application compatibility database service actually does it uses a Windows compatibility toolkit called processor count lie which as the name implies it'll just lie to the app and say oh I only have8 CP U cores and 16 threads so that they only use the vcash and it's for a specific set of games now it's important to note you need game bar installed if you want all of these optimizations to work because they rely on Game Bar to know whether or not a game is running at least to some degree and that's also helpful because if it doesn't detect it for some reason you can manually tag something as a game with game bar and then it should start to work which is um I want to try that actually oh I have to go Windows G while it's the active window oh I see it okay now and then I go hey there we go okay so remember this is a game tech power up GPU Z so if I click that close this now go back look at that it works you see now we've got 16 of 32 cores only half of them are parked when we're using GPU Z and if I click off of it take it out of focus boom it UNP Parks the course so the system works now I know that some people don't like game bar but this way it's like a thing that's already built into Windows that you can use to flag apps and you don't have to run any like weird software it's already built into the chipset driver there's no like separate Intel performance Optimizer app that you have to open and play with it just pretty much just works let's look at the goo mean of all of the games we tested at low which is only the three it does still technically put the 9800 x3d on top at low but it's a close race and this again is only across three games uh I'm sure if you were to test across even more games you would see probably a tighter variance but overall that is a really good showing that makes me really excited about this chip wow rocket League can actually use some cores even at 1080p Max settings the 950x and x3d are on top neck and neck then the 9800 and then Intel and last gen on the bottom we've got Warhammer yeah that seems pretty GPU Limited at Ultra they're all the same same story as we saw in f124 oh I almost forgot stellar uh this is kind of like a top down RTS game uh and this Benchmark specifically simulates one year of game time and while the numbers aren't crazy different uh this game is super consistent in The Benchmark with these numbers only varying on a given CPU uh about 1 second if that even so the 9950 x3d and the 9800 x3d are basically on par but we do have a bit of speed up from Intel from the non-3d VC variant and definitely a huge speed up from last gen and that is good to see in all the games we tested pretty much the 9950 x3d is performing as AMD said it's damn good for gaming but let's look at productivity because that's what this chip is really for the content creator the engine nerd the whatever who also games and look at that Puget bench in Photoshop it's really not a big difference it's a bit faster with a few more cores but man this is really close and in premere you get a little bit of a bump but overall this new chip is still on top uh even if the performance improvements are not huge in Adobe apps we all know how well optimized those are in the blender monster Benchmark it's neck and neck with the non- 3dv cache and faster than the rest good to see cinebench man Intel does really good in cin bench either way this is the only test we did I think where Intel's 285k is actually on par with these AMD chips and that is like really close if we go to single core Intel wins out a tiny bit in handbrake oh I lied uh Intel actually does have another spot where they're winning here uh a little bit above everything else but in h264 the 950x 3D and its non-3d vcash counterpart are on top with a good lead so in terms of productivity the 9950 x3d is basically on top unless you're happen to be av1 encoding on CPU um or running cine bench in the other applications it it was right up there and in games it seems to perform pretty much neck and neck with the 9800x 3D um except for a couple edge cases there still seems to be uh I'd be interested to see if City skylines uh does see further improvements with some future chipset driver updates or if you might be able to remedy that with the game bar truck I told you guys earlier um but what I want to try now is all of those tests were done with PBO off and if you're not familiar PBO is like AMD's automatic overclocking thing you turn it on in the BIOS and it kind of removes a bunch of the power limits and stuff because this is a fully unlocked chip I want to just do that and run cin bench and see where we get oh actually before we do that let's check out the power and thermals cuz I'm really interested in that uh the 9950 x3d average CPU power during a cinebench run around 200 Watts our temperatures were around 75 it's clocking you know between 5.2 and 5.5 is GHz even though Intel did Edge out like a tiny bit of a win it's it's at a fair bit more power you're talking at least 10% more power and it wasn't 10% more multi-threaded performance by any stretch of the imagination and at Max it was more than 10% you're talking 20 25% more power damn it almost seems like AMD made like a really good CPU here this thing crushes in gaming crushes in productivity and it does it while drawing less power even like like in a game if we look at F1 2024 at 4K with rate tracing on which is not going to be a huge CPU load you know what the average of the 285k is a tiny bit lower In This Very GPU bottleneck test I mean the 9800 x3d is like barely even drawing power if you're going for efficiency now to be clear these are two very limited situations um there are probably circumstances depending on your application where one might be more efficient than the other but overall seems like a very good showing for AMD um and those Intel chips are very efficient in certain applications honestly not a ton higher on the wattage I think we said the average before was like 200 and now it's 226 is based on the data I can see from the Labs testing with PBO on it looks like we're getting about 100 MHz more on average and our score is somehow lower woohoo compared to the motherboard default PBO not set to enabled but Auto we're doing about 2020 25 watts more on average and getting somewhere between 70 to 120 more megahertz on average across the cores um but we did get a little bit lower score so who knows it uh it's definitely not something that's always going to make your stuff better I kind of want to just play games on this thing now but like overall this CPU seems like a banger what's the price this new chip the 9950 X3 16 core 3D vcash seemingly monster uh is $6.99 it's the same price as last generation a fair bit more expensive than the non-3d cache variant and a lot more expensive than a 9800 x3d so if all you do is game that's still going to be your best gaming option but if you do other stuff things that can use more cores if you're running Premiere if you're doing I don't know crunching pie on your computer this chip as far as we've seen today can seemingly do both almost as good is a 9800 x3d in most of the situations we saw the 9800 x3d and the 9950 x3d were pretty much neck and neck and you're not compromising on the productivity to get that gaming prowess I mean this thing is a is an absolute unit of a processor and uh yeah GG AMD it's not cheap but if you use your computer for work and getting stuff done and making money this could be a very very good option if you also game and maybe check out the um 5600x 3D ShortCircuit I did a while ago that was uh that is still a really solid chip that's pretty cheap bye"}