WEBVTT 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.883 - B-cam, how is this? 00:00:03.960 --> 00:00:10.700 Do I look cool? They're kind of two camps of things that are really dumb. 00:00:10.700 --> 00:00:17.240 Things that are only dumb, and things that are dumb but in an exceptionally cool way. 00:00:17.240 --> 00:00:21.210 And I think that this lands in the second camp right here. 00:00:21.210 --> 00:00:24.980 So, 'cause the AORUS RTX 3080 gaming box, 00:00:24.980 --> 00:00:29.150 and it is, well, it says the world's first water-cooled external graphics card, 00:00:29.150 --> 00:00:33.050 but they kind of already made one and we looked at it. 00:00:33.050 --> 00:00:36.630 But this is a new one with 3080 unit. We're going to look at it again. 00:00:36.630 --> 00:00:42.790 I'm pretty interested to see how well this performs because in the past, eGPUs were honestly kind of terrible 00:00:42.790 --> 00:00:46.480 for a lot of reasons. And I haven't looked at them in quite a long time. 00:00:46.480 --> 00:00:50.230 And maybe this has gotten better. Maybe it hasn't. 00:00:50.230 --> 00:00:54.890 We'll know in a couple of minutes. This is really heavy. 00:00:54.890 --> 00:00:59.890 I feel like eGPUs shouldn't be super heavy 00:01:01.570 --> 00:01:04.690 because like, you know, you kind of want to be able to take it places, but 00:01:06.740 --> 00:01:11.300 this one, I would not. So, here we go. It comes with-it says on the side of the box- 00:01:11.300 --> 00:01:13.793 a "free" carrying bag. 00:01:14.740 --> 00:01:20.203 Given this thing is super expensive, I would not call it free at all, but it is nice. 00:01:26.160 --> 00:01:30.030 - I would not call this travel size. Not so much because of the size. 00:01:30.030 --> 00:01:34.790 More so, because of the weight like if you're flying on a plane, you're not taking this. 00:01:34.790 --> 00:01:36.963 It's just, it's a no-go. Big no-go. 00:01:37.950 --> 00:01:39.800 Do they have strap for the bag? Okay. 00:01:44.460 --> 00:01:45.693 Pete, how is this? 00:01:47.850 --> 00:01:48.903 Do I look cool? 00:01:55.320 --> 00:01:56.377 Yeah, I would not. 00:01:59.550 --> 00:02:04.380 Well, anyway. Okay. Power adapter that we can't use. 00:02:04.380 --> 00:02:07.603 Another power adapter that we can't use. Hey, Jono. 00:02:07.603 --> 00:02:11.803 Can you get a power adapter that we're able to use? It came with ones for Europe and Asia. 00:02:14.300 --> 00:02:20.113 I would assume that this is, you know, pre-production and it will come with the correct power adapters. 00:02:22.663 --> 00:02:23.496 Anyway. 00:02:25.930 --> 00:02:30.373 Here it is. Comes a little Thunderbolt cable. 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:33.223 And here's the star of the show. 00:02:41.250 --> 00:02:45.300 Okay, yeah. It's a black box. It actually does feel quite nice. 00:02:45.300 --> 00:02:48.690 Like the materials are really good here. 00:02:48.690 --> 00:02:56.270 All aluminum, I think. Anodized black. We have one USB in the front that looks really lonely. 00:02:56.440 --> 00:02:59.780 All right, around back, it's basically your normal GPU IO. 00:02:59.780 --> 00:03:04.200 I'm actually pretty disappointed by the IO back here. Normally, you got a pretty good, like, 00:03:04.200 --> 00:03:10.093 basically, Thunderbolt dock along with your eGPU. Whereas here you get two USB type As, 00:03:11.050 --> 00:03:14.690 Ethernet, and that's it aside from your display hubs. 00:03:14.690 --> 00:03:18.463 So, you have three display boards, two HDMIs. 00:03:19.650 --> 00:03:23.260 What's this? Oh, that's smart. 00:03:23.260 --> 00:03:27.443 Okay. So, very easy to clean dust filter on the side. 00:03:28.440 --> 00:03:30.830 Slides in and out just like that. 00:03:32.239 --> 00:03:35.173 Let's see if this have like two. Yes. Perfect. 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:40.720 Oh, okay. Nevermind, nevermind. I thought for a second there that the holes 00:03:40.720 --> 00:03:43.483 on top weren't actually holes but they are. 00:03:44.350 --> 00:03:47.410 Okay. - There you go. Wait. 00:03:47.410 --> 00:03:54.250 - Oh, thank you. - Nice. - Here we go. So let's test this out. This is just running off of the XPS 15. 00:03:54.250 --> 00:03:58.270 It has a 1650 Ti. And I think it's a pretty reasonable situation 00:03:58.270 --> 00:04:03.960 that you would want to try and game on this. You have something like this little Thunderbolt dock 00:04:03.960 --> 00:04:07.963 right here that has everything you need to connect it to. A big whole display. 00:04:08.860 --> 00:04:12.040 And I don't think it's going to be a great time. 00:04:12.040 --> 00:04:15.313 Start game. We're playing Valheim because I am addicted to Valheim. 00:04:16.950 --> 00:04:23.223 That's, that's whole thing. Yeah, we're getting a solid 20 frames per second. 00:04:24.180 --> 00:04:27.750 I would say for this game it's like borderline. 00:04:29.960 --> 00:04:33.870 Oh. Yeah, no. - Those look chunky. - Yeah, we dropped to like 15 there. 00:04:33.870 --> 00:04:39.940 It's-this is not great. All right but yeah, either way we're looking at about 00:04:40.930 --> 00:04:44.780 under 30 FPS for sure right now, but yeah. 00:04:44.780 --> 00:04:48.770 All right. Let's quit here 00:04:48.770 --> 00:04:50.383 and attach our eGPU. 00:04:52.020 --> 00:04:57.030 Now, we're hopping back into Valheim with the good ol' 3080 attached. 00:04:57.030 --> 00:05:02.040 It is probably better. It's going to be way better. There's no way it's not way better. 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:06.070 So, yes. I'm going to not look at that for a second. I just want to look something up. 00:05:06.070 --> 00:05:10.230 Let's just get a rough idea of what the FPS should be looking like. 00:05:10.230 --> 00:05:14.590 Okay. My math said 92 and we're looking 00:05:14.590 --> 00:05:17.853 at 80, oh, we just dropped to 40. 00:05:19.280 --> 00:05:22.570 Yeah, we're looking at more like 60 FPS, but it's- 00:05:22.570 --> 00:05:26.230 it's not very stable. I don't know if that's a problem with, 00:05:26.230 --> 00:05:29.080 like, the CPU not being super happy 00:05:29.940 --> 00:05:34.580 or the GPU. It's definitely, it's a way better experience. 00:05:34.580 --> 00:05:39.590 This is beyond playable. Like this is quite a great time, 00:05:39.590 --> 00:05:45.087 I do have to say, but yeah, the frames keep on dropping to like the 40s. 00:05:47.190 --> 00:05:51.730 I don't know why. Let me unplug this, I hope it doesn't spark. 00:05:51.730 --> 00:05:55.960 That's cool. You can't see it because I just unplugged your capture device. 00:05:55.960 --> 00:06:00.430 But now I'm looking at 35 FPS. 00:06:00.430 --> 00:06:03.910 So if you plan on buying, it's stupid. This is so stupid. 00:06:03.910 --> 00:06:07.090 If you just want to get eGPU and plug it into your laptop 00:06:07.090 --> 00:06:14.277 and use your laptop's display, this is really dumb. I gained like 10 FPS for $1,400. 00:06:15.840 --> 00:06:19.410 It's going to be way better. There's no way it's not way better. 00:06:19.410 --> 00:06:21.453 So what do we even do from here, Jono? 00:06:24.350 --> 00:06:28.900 Actually before that, I want to see just how dumb this is 00:06:28.900 --> 00:06:35.320 or if it's not dumb. So, here I have, I just thought-it's kind of heavy- 00:06:35.320 --> 00:06:42.380 this also has a 3080 in it. And this whole thing will cost you $2,300. 00:06:42.380 --> 00:06:47.380 This laptop plus this eGPU costs you about $3,400. 00:06:48.980 --> 00:06:53.170 So, you could pretty easily buy this desktop 00:06:53.170 --> 00:06:58.793 and a really good laptop, like an XPS 13 or an HP Spectre x360 13 like one of those. 00:06:59.940 --> 00:07:03.280 And you know, an awesome desktop, awesome laptop 00:07:03.280 --> 00:07:06.383 instead of good laptop, 00:07:07.460 --> 00:07:10.773 eGPU that makes for a kind of bad desktop experience. 00:07:11.710 --> 00:07:15.183 So, let's see how this thing goes. Okay. Yeah. 00:07:16.540 --> 00:07:21.540 All right, we're getting like easy 100 DPS to a 100 FPS, 00:07:22.470 --> 00:07:26.290 but it's going up to like 140. 00:07:26.290 --> 00:07:30.430 Yeah. This is pretty consistent 110, 120. 00:07:30.430 --> 00:07:34.040 So, that's a massive performance hit 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:41.570 for having a little eGPU here where it was what, like 40 to 80 FPS. 00:07:41.570 --> 00:07:46.430 Whereas now, we're running like 90 to 120. 00:07:46.430 --> 00:07:52.060 I just don't know why you would want this but I am excited to take it apart in a couple seconds. 00:07:52.060 --> 00:07:55.260 If you want eGPU, you should just buy a cheaper laptop 00:07:55.260 --> 00:07:57.223 and buy a full-blown desktop. 00:07:59.130 --> 00:08:02.920 That's my advice. So, that's that test done. Let's take it apart. 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:07.380 I'm actually pretty stoked to do this. Thanks to Ridge Wallet for sponsoring this video. 00:08:07.380 --> 00:08:11.540 They have a compact wallet to keep your pant bulge down, has an RFID blocking place 00:08:11.540 --> 00:08:15.240 to keep people from stealing your info. 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It's also a really cramped airflow design. 00:08:53.540 --> 00:08:56.170 Like you, I don't know if you can tell 00:08:57.230 --> 00:09:03.900 but like on this side, you're only going to be sucking in air right here. 00:09:04.160 --> 00:09:07.420 Would I recommend water-cooling your 3080? - Yeah. 00:09:07.420 --> 00:09:10.600 - If you have a 3080 in a desktop, I might recommend water-cooling it. 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:14.020 If you have, like, a not super great cooler like installed 00:09:14.020 --> 00:09:18.780 but pretty much all of them are really, really good. So, I personally don't think you need 00:09:18.780 --> 00:09:22.760 to water-cool them most of the time. So, yeah. Other side here, again. 00:09:22.760 --> 00:09:29.223 Not much airflow to these fans. We have this nice little fan here that- 00:09:30.330 --> 00:09:33.013 oh, that's probably cooling the power supply a bit. 00:09:34.172 --> 00:09:37.340 Yeah. Let's keep on going deeper. This is the fun part, Jono. 00:09:38.256 --> 00:09:43.586 I want to get a good look at the actual GPU. (upbeat music) 00:09:44.760 --> 00:09:48.360 - Okay. Power supply is totally closed. That's great 'cause I won't kill myself 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.710 if I accidentally touch it. (upbeat music) 00:09:52.710 --> 00:09:58.070 This is the GPU. This is the power supply. And over here, we have the-what's it called- 00:09:58.070 --> 00:10:01.150 the PCIe Thunderbolt dock chummy. 00:10:01.150 --> 00:10:06.150 They have super non-standard power connectors on the GPU. 00:10:08.170 --> 00:10:14.190 I as-wait, this is so weird. I assumed that they just had like a normal everyday GPU 00:10:14.190 --> 00:10:18.163 in here, but it's some weird custom board. 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:22.963 Yeah. And it looks like from the power supply, they have a normal 8-pin. 00:10:24.490 --> 00:10:31.430 Yeah. Two normal 8-pins that go to these super weird ass connectors attached to the GPU. 00:10:31.990 --> 00:10:35.660 So like you could take this adapter and I guess toss it 00:10:35.660 --> 00:10:38.693 in your desktop, but it will be a pretty difficult time. 00:10:39.610 --> 00:10:40.660 Oh, have we freed it? 00:10:43.540 --> 00:10:48.920 Aha! There's the GPU. So, if you wanted to put this in your desktop, 00:10:48.920 --> 00:10:52.390 I guess you could. The cooling solution actually looks pretty good. 00:10:52.390 --> 00:10:56.319 So, what we've got here is your good old pump 00:10:56.319 --> 00:11:01.220 and then, some heat pipes that go across your VRMs, 00:11:01.220 --> 00:11:04.550 and that attaches to the same pole plate that your pump is on. 00:11:04.550 --> 00:11:09.410 So, you know, you get nice- I'm guessing these are fairly well cool. 00:11:09.410 --> 00:11:12.420 We also have what is probably one of the gnarliest-looking 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:17.150 heat pipe bends that I've ever seen. Like I'm sure it's fine. These are massive heat pipes 00:11:17.150 --> 00:11:19.773 and it's not going to really affect performance but like, 00:11:20.970 --> 00:11:24.330 it has- I don't know what to call this 00:11:24.330 --> 00:11:30.740 but it looks kind of gross. Yeah. For a radiator, we have just a standard 240 00:11:30.740 --> 00:11:34.420 with two of these kind of funky looking fans. 00:11:34.420 --> 00:11:38.700 I'm sure that they work great. I just feel the power supply-it's 550 Watts- 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:43.940 that's more than enough for this current. I think 3080s, if you really push them hard, 00:11:43.940 --> 00:11:48.310 might consume like 300 watts. But that's like pretty extreme. 00:11:48.310 --> 00:11:52.770 As for this little board thingy, 00:11:52.770 --> 00:11:58.790 it's really weird. Yeah, I don't know if you can see but there are only pins up to right here. 00:11:58.790 --> 00:12:02.280 The rest of this slot has just nothing in it. 00:12:02.280 --> 00:12:08.740 I'm really surprised that it isn't just a standard Gigabyte card that they chucked in here and worked around it. 00:12:08.740 --> 00:12:12.520 But instead it's like totally custom. 00:12:12.520 --> 00:12:17.250 But anyway, this thing is super weird and super cool and super not something that you should buy. 00:12:18.730 --> 00:12:23.290 So, yeah. I hope you guys liked this video, and now know, if you didn't before, 00:12:23.290 --> 00:12:26.730 why buying an eGPU is super-duper dumb. 00:12:26.730 --> 00:12:29.970 Sorry, Gigabyte, but that's how she goes. 00:12:29.970 --> 00:12:34.890 eGPUs, you can't really win. So, yeah. Hope you guys have a great ol' day. 00:12:34.890 --> 00:12:36.623 And, so long.