1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,883 - B-cam, how is this? 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:10,700 Do I look cool? They're kind of two camps of things that are really dumb. 3 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:17,240 Things that are only dumb, and things that are dumb but in an exceptionally cool way. 4 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:21,210 And I think that this lands in the second camp right here. 5 00:00:21,210 --> 00:00:24,980 So, 'cause the AORUS RTX 3080 gaming box, 6 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:29,150 and it is, well, it says the world's first water-cooled external graphics card, 7 00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:33,050 but they kind of already made one and we looked at it. 8 00:00:33,050 --> 00:00:36,630 But this is a new one with 3080 unit. We're going to look at it again. 9 00:00:36,630 --> 00:00:42,790 I'm pretty interested to see how well this performs because in the past, eGPUs were honestly kind of terrible 10 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:46,480 for a lot of reasons. And I haven't looked at them in quite a long time. 11 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:50,230 And maybe this has gotten better. Maybe it hasn't. 12 00:00:50,230 --> 00:00:54,890 We'll know in a couple of minutes. This is really heavy. 13 00:00:54,890 --> 00:00:59,890 I feel like eGPUs shouldn't be super heavy 14 00:01:01,570 --> 00:01:04,690 because like, you know, you kind of want to be able to take it places, but 15 00:01:06,740 --> 00:01:11,300 this one, I would not. So, here we go. It comes with-it says on the side of the box- 16 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:13,793 a "free" carrying bag. 17 00:01:14,740 --> 00:01:20,203 Given this thing is super expensive, I would not call it free at all, but it is nice. 18 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,030 - I would not call this travel size. Not so much because of the size. 19 00:01:30,030 --> 00:01:34,790 More so, because of the weight like if you're flying on a plane, you're not taking this. 20 00:01:34,790 --> 00:01:36,963 It's just, it's a no-go. Big no-go. 21 00:01:37,950 --> 00:01:39,800 Do they have strap for the bag? Okay. 22 00:01:44,460 --> 00:01:45,693 Pete, how is this? 23 00:01:47,850 --> 00:01:48,903 Do I look cool? 24 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,377 Yeah, I would not. 25 00:01:59,550 --> 00:02:04,380 Well, anyway. Okay. Power adapter that we can't use. 26 00:02:04,380 --> 00:02:07,603 Another power adapter that we can't use. Hey, Jono. 27 00:02:07,603 --> 00:02:11,803 Can you get a power adapter that we're able to use? It came with ones for Europe and Asia. 28 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:20,113 I would assume that this is, you know, pre-production and it will come with the correct power adapters. 29 00:02:22,663 --> 00:02:23,496 Anyway. 30 00:02:25,930 --> 00:02:30,373 Here it is. Comes a little Thunderbolt cable. 31 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,223 And here's the star of the show. 32 00:02:41,250 --> 00:02:45,300 Okay, yeah. It's a black box. It actually does feel quite nice. 33 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:48,690 Like the materials are really good here. 34 00:02:48,690 --> 00:02:56,270 All aluminum, I think. Anodized black. We have one USB in the front that looks really lonely. 35 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,780 All right, around back, it's basically your normal GPU IO. 36 00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:04,200 I'm actually pretty disappointed by the IO back here. Normally, you got a pretty good, like, 37 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:10,093 basically, Thunderbolt dock along with your eGPU. Whereas here you get two USB type As, 38 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:14,690 Ethernet, and that's it aside from your display hubs. 39 00:03:14,690 --> 00:03:18,463 So, you have three display boards, two HDMIs. 40 00:03:19,650 --> 00:03:23,260 What's this? Oh, that's smart. 41 00:03:23,260 --> 00:03:27,443 Okay. So, very easy to clean dust filter on the side. 42 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,830 Slides in and out just like that. 43 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:35,173 Let's see if this have like two. Yes. Perfect. 44 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,720 Oh, okay. Nevermind, nevermind. I thought for a second there that the holes 45 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,483 on top weren't actually holes but they are. 46 00:03:44,350 --> 00:03:47,410 Okay. - There you go. Wait. 47 00:03:47,410 --> 00:03:54,250 - Oh, thank you. - Nice. - Here we go. So let's test this out. This is just running off of the XPS 15. 48 00:03:54,250 --> 00:03:58,270 It has a 1650 Ti. And I think it's a pretty reasonable situation 49 00:03:58,270 --> 00:04:03,960 that you would want to try and game on this. You have something like this little Thunderbolt dock 50 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,963 right here that has everything you need to connect it to. A big whole display. 51 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:12,040 And I don't think it's going to be a great time. 52 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,313 Start game. We're playing Valheim because I am addicted to Valheim. 53 00:04:16,950 --> 00:04:23,223 That's, that's whole thing. Yeah, we're getting a solid 20 frames per second. 54 00:04:24,180 --> 00:04:27,750 I would say for this game it's like borderline. 55 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,870 Oh. Yeah, no. - Those look chunky. - Yeah, we dropped to like 15 there. 56 00:04:33,870 --> 00:04:39,940 It's-this is not great. All right but yeah, either way we're looking at about 57 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:44,780 under 30 FPS for sure right now, but yeah. 58 00:04:44,780 --> 00:04:48,770 All right. Let's quit here 59 00:04:48,770 --> 00:04:50,383 and attach our eGPU. 60 00:04:52,020 --> 00:04:57,030 Now, we're hopping back into Valheim with the good ol' 3080 attached. 61 00:04:57,030 --> 00:05:02,040 It is probably better. It's going to be way better. There's no way it's not way better. 62 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,070 So, yes. I'm going to not look at that for a second. I just want to look something up. 63 00:05:06,070 --> 00:05:10,230 Let's just get a rough idea of what the FPS should be looking like. 64 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:14,590 Okay. My math said 92 and we're looking 65 00:05:14,590 --> 00:05:17,853 at 80, oh, we just dropped to 40. 66 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:22,570 Yeah, we're looking at more like 60 FPS, but it's- 67 00:05:22,570 --> 00:05:26,230 it's not very stable. I don't know if that's a problem with, 68 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:29,080 like, the CPU not being super happy 69 00:05:29,940 --> 00:05:34,580 or the GPU. It's definitely, it's a way better experience. 70 00:05:34,580 --> 00:05:39,590 This is beyond playable. Like this is quite a great time, 71 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:45,087 I do have to say, but yeah, the frames keep on dropping to like the 40s. 72 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:51,730 I don't know why. Let me unplug this, I hope it doesn't spark. 73 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:55,960 That's cool. You can't see it because I just unplugged your capture device. 74 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,430 But now I'm looking at 35 FPS. 75 00:06:00,430 --> 00:06:03,910 So if you plan on buying, it's stupid. This is so stupid. 76 00:06:03,910 --> 00:06:07,090 If you just want to get eGPU and plug it into your laptop 77 00:06:07,090 --> 00:06:14,277 and use your laptop's display, this is really dumb. I gained like 10 FPS for $1,400. 78 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:19,410 It's going to be way better. There's no way it's not way better. 79 00:06:19,410 --> 00:06:21,453 So what do we even do from here, Jono? 80 00:06:24,350 --> 00:06:28,900 Actually before that, I want to see just how dumb this is 81 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:35,320 or if it's not dumb. So, here I have, I just thought-it's kind of heavy- 82 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:42,380 this also has a 3080 in it. And this whole thing will cost you $2,300. 83 00:06:42,380 --> 00:06:47,380 This laptop plus this eGPU costs you about $3,400. 84 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:53,170 So, you could pretty easily buy this desktop 85 00:06:53,170 --> 00:06:58,793 and a really good laptop, like an XPS 13 or an HP Spectre x360 13 like one of those. 86 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:03,280 And you know, an awesome desktop, awesome laptop 87 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,383 instead of good laptop, 88 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:10,773 eGPU that makes for a kind of bad desktop experience. 89 00:07:11,710 --> 00:07:15,183 So, let's see how this thing goes. Okay. Yeah. 90 00:07:16,540 --> 00:07:21,540 All right, we're getting like easy 100 DPS to a 100 FPS, 91 00:07:22,470 --> 00:07:26,290 but it's going up to like 140. 92 00:07:26,290 --> 00:07:30,430 Yeah. This is pretty consistent 110, 120. 93 00:07:30,430 --> 00:07:34,040 So, that's a massive performance hit 94 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:41,570 for having a little eGPU here where it was what, like 40 to 80 FPS. 95 00:07:41,570 --> 00:07:46,430 Whereas now, we're running like 90 to 120. 96 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:52,060 I just don't know why you would want this but I am excited to take it apart in a couple seconds. 97 00:07:52,060 --> 00:07:55,260 If you want eGPU, you should just buy a cheaper laptop 98 00:07:55,260 --> 00:07:57,223 and buy a full-blown desktop. 99 00:07:59,130 --> 00:08:02,920 That's my advice. So, that's that test done. Let's take it apart. 100 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,380 I'm actually pretty stoked to do this. Thanks to Ridge Wallet for sponsoring this video. 101 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:11,540 They have a compact wallet to keep your pant bulge down, has an RFID blocking place 102 00:08:11,540 --> 00:08:15,240 to keep people from stealing your info. 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It's also a really cramped airflow design. 111 00:08:53,540 --> 00:08:56,170 Like you, I don't know if you can tell 112 00:08:57,230 --> 00:09:03,900 but like on this side, you're only going to be sucking in air right here. 113 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,420 Would I recommend water-cooling your 3080? - Yeah. 114 00:09:07,420 --> 00:09:10,600 - If you have a 3080 in a desktop, I might recommend water-cooling it. 115 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,020 If you have, like, a not super great cooler like installed 116 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:18,780 but pretty much all of them are really, really good. So, I personally don't think you need 117 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:22,760 to water-cool them most of the time. So, yeah. Other side here, again. 118 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:29,223 Not much airflow to these fans. We have this nice little fan here that- 119 00:09:30,330 --> 00:09:33,013 oh, that's probably cooling the power supply a bit. 120 00:09:34,172 --> 00:09:37,340 Yeah. Let's keep on going deeper. This is the fun part, Jono. 121 00:09:38,256 --> 00:09:43,586 I want to get a good look at the actual GPU. (upbeat music) 122 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,360 - Okay. Power supply is totally closed. That's great 'cause I won't kill myself 123 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,710 if I accidentally touch it. (upbeat music) 124 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:58,070 This is the GPU. This is the power supply. And over here, we have the-what's it called- 125 00:09:58,070 --> 00:10:01,150 the PCIe Thunderbolt dock chummy. 126 00:10:01,150 --> 00:10:06,150 They have super non-standard power connectors on the GPU. 127 00:10:08,170 --> 00:10:14,190 I as-wait, this is so weird. I assumed that they just had like a normal everyday GPU 128 00:10:14,190 --> 00:10:18,163 in here, but it's some weird custom board. 129 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,963 Yeah. And it looks like from the power supply, they have a normal 8-pin. 130 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:31,430 Yeah. Two normal 8-pins that go to these super weird ass connectors attached to the GPU. 131 00:10:31,990 --> 00:10:35,660 So like you could take this adapter and I guess toss it 132 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:38,693 in your desktop, but it will be a pretty difficult time. 133 00:10:39,610 --> 00:10:40,660 Oh, have we freed it? 134 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:48,920 Aha! There's the GPU. So, if you wanted to put this in your desktop, 135 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,390 I guess you could. The cooling solution actually looks pretty good. 136 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:56,319 So, what we've got here is your good old pump 137 00:10:56,319 --> 00:11:01,220 and then, some heat pipes that go across your VRMs, 138 00:11:01,220 --> 00:11:04,550 and that attaches to the same pole plate that your pump is on. 139 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:09,410 So, you know, you get nice- I'm guessing these are fairly well cool. 140 00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:12,420 We also have what is probably one of the gnarliest-looking 141 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,150 heat pipe bends that I've ever seen. Like I'm sure it's fine. These are massive heat pipes 142 00:11:17,150 --> 00:11:19,773 and it's not going to really affect performance but like, 143 00:11:20,970 --> 00:11:24,330 it has- I don't know what to call this 144 00:11:24,330 --> 00:11:30,740 but it looks kind of gross. Yeah. For a radiator, we have just a standard 240 145 00:11:30,740 --> 00:11:34,420 with two of these kind of funky looking fans. 146 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:38,700 I'm sure that they work great. I just feel the power supply-it's 550 Watts- 147 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:43,940 that's more than enough for this current. I think 3080s, if you really push them hard, 148 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:48,310 might consume like 300 watts. But that's like pretty extreme. 149 00:11:48,310 --> 00:11:52,770 As for this little board thingy, 150 00:11:52,770 --> 00:11:58,790 it's really weird. Yeah, I don't know if you can see but there are only pins up to right here. 151 00:11:58,790 --> 00:12:02,280 The rest of this slot has just nothing in it. 152 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:08,740 I'm really surprised that it isn't just a standard Gigabyte card that they chucked in here and worked around it. 153 00:12:08,740 --> 00:12:12,520 But instead it's like totally custom. 154 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:17,250 But anyway, this thing is super weird and super cool and super not something that you should buy. 155 00:12:18,730 --> 00:12:23,290 So, yeah. I hope you guys liked this video, and now know, if you didn't before, 156 00:12:23,290 --> 00:12:26,730 why buying an eGPU is super-duper dumb. 157 00:12:26,730 --> 00:12:29,970 Sorry, Gigabyte, but that's how she goes. 158 00:12:29,970 --> 00:12:34,890 eGPUs, you can't really win. So, yeah. Hope you guys have a great ol' day. 159 00:12:34,890 --> 00:12:36,623 And, so long.