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maybe you missed it but several months ago ASUS released the best RTX 490 ever

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the Rog Matrix this represents the Pinnacle of ASUS's manufacturing

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capabilities with higher clock speeds than any other 490 liquid metal on the

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GPU Die For maximum cooling performance and a 360 mm radiator all-in-one water

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cooler built right in the only problem

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it costs $3,200 that is twice the price of the

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founders Edition card Republic of Gamers more like Republic of out of touch I bet

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you could take that $1600 premium and put it towards building your own custom

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loop I mean you could probably even pay yourself a fair wage for the research

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and building the darn thing oh you're talking to me yeah I bet

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you could buy a regular RTX 490 and all

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of that stuff and still have cash to spare uh okay but um where will I get

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the money well

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here life can suck sometimes but with the right attitude and tools you can fix

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it I'm talking about this poor laptop fix what you can this back to school

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season with our sponsor iFixit you may fail your tests but don't fail your

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laptop on sale now at ifixit.com let's lay out some ground rules Adam's budget

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has to go towards a 4090 of his choosing planning and purchasing all components

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for a water cooling Loop and paying himself to assemble it he's going to be

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paid the median wage of a Geek Squad repair agent which according to glass

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door is $21.63 per hour ready go I quickly got

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to researching using resources from J2 cents and Reddit and I figured I have

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enough budget that I can Splurge big time so not only am I going to cool my

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GPU I'm also going to cool my CPU and get an Ultra Premium Water block for

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both of them and to deal with all that heat I'm hoping a thick 400 0 mm rad

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will do the trick I spent 90 minutes and a lot of money during my shopping spree

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and I think I did a pretty good job but let's see what lonus thinks all right

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let me see there's definitely some stuff

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that stands out immediately as not a great value

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however when you look at what we're comparing it to I guess I can forgive it

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before we get into those details though I want to see if he outright missed

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anything that's going to cost him a penalty once he's assembling the system

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cooling blocks for a CPU and GPU check check a pump and Reservoir to make it

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simpler to fill the loop and move fluid around a big radiator with some fans to

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go on it I don't know if these are the ones I would have chosen but hey at least he's got them along with a high

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performance phase change thermal pad from LTT Store and some tubing and some

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fittings both of which raise a couple of questions about his research for me for

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starters this is his case and while the fantex nv7 is both reasonably priced and

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attractive what it isn't is is small and

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Adam has only purchased 9.8 ft of this

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XT softline mesh sleeved tubing from Corsair it should cover the distance

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between all of his plummed up components but when you go with a thin walled

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tubing like this one the loop layout

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matters a lot if you want to avoid Kinks

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and this length doesn't leave him a ton of room for error as for his fittings

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it's never a bad idea to buy ones that are explicitly compatible with the

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tubing that you bought from the exact same vender and these XF series

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compressions look pretty nice with recessed O-rings and a pretty pleasing

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overall finish the only thing I'd critique here is that he could have

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saved probably 20 or $30 by going with fittings from someone like bixy he also

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paid a butt ton of money for this 4090 water block probably about double what I

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would have spent but who knows maybe it's oh okay it's very very pretty and In

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fairness to Adam even these exess purchases above and beyond buying an RTX

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490 have put him nowhere near the cost of the Rog Matrix Platinum I mean he's

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still got 7 hours of budget left to pay

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himself to build it maybe he shouldn't have sprung for a

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$200 CPU block overall though not

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exactly how I would have done it these Quantum surface radiators from Ek have a

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very dense fin Arrangement and I see nothing to indicate that these thermal

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take fans have particularly High static pressure to take advantage vage of that

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but it should still offer good performance for both his GPU and his CPU

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and I don't see any other things here that promised to be a major showstopper

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and he passed one of the biggest stumbling blocks when he bought a block

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that was explicitly compatible with his exact model of

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GPU okay go go go go go

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go so now we're going to mount our water block I got this cool water block from

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Ek uh I bought it cuz it looked cool I could have gotten something that was

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like literally half the price and still would have been a great performant water

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block but I was so confident about my budget that I felt that we could do this

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anyways we got our PTM

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7950 you know there is a video on LTT

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store.com of the best way to put this

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stuff on and I have not watched it a

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water block on um so here is our tough

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gaming 4090 while the Rog Matrix

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Platinum is based on the stricks platform by ASUS I figure that if it

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only gets like an extra 6% performance I might be able to squeeze an extra

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performance out of their tough series if I get lucky but now I have to take off

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all of this cooler to put it into this

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the Optimus water cooling I don't know what the exact model is but holy cow

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it's heavy these guys are from like Chicago or something they're a pretty

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small company and and apparently this is one of the best water blocks on the

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market do you know how I do you know how I know that I Googled best 490 water

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block and everyone said it was this I was just thinking wow I wish I had a way

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to organize my screws but then I remembered that we have these handy

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dandy mod mats that are going to be coming soon to LTT Store.com that are

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the perfect thing for what I am doing this is not going to wors my budget okay

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I know I might look like the kind of guy you could take home to your mama but I'm

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a bad boy I avoid the warranty fun fact

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about these stickers manufacturers put them on devices to intimidate you and

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make you feel like you're not allowed to Tinker with devices you own but these

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warranty void stickers are not enforcable by law anywhere in America so

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if a company's refusing to give you service you can always you know complain

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to the FTC about it because it's

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complete BS you bought the thing you should be allowed to service

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it for the case we got this big old fantex nv7 it's massive it's Shen it's

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uh got support for a 480 mm rad because that's what I went with cuz it seemed

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like it was the best way to get a lot of radiator for a little bit of budget as

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well as it lowered the amount of fittings I needed which at fittings my

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God they eat into your budget but I am a little worried cuz it looks like my

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motherboard might not fit yeah

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so eatx motherboard is a problem let's see if we

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can take this little thing out and maybe we will be saved so

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while this computer has this really cool set of LEDs that are actually totally

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cableless that line the motherboard tray

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um we might not be able to use at least one of them but the good news is that I

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think that means our motherboard fits in

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hey look at that however we do need to

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consider that our radiator is going here I think hm

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or does this go along the top nope one of these things is not like

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the other one of these things is a lot

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bigger it's so close if it's if if we

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mounted it here it fits we doed an hour and change to compensate for the $15

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extra dollar for the two radiators and

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for the um Tri to the store and now it

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went from being like yeah we got enough time to being like okay this is going to be kind of tight let's figure out our

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pump mount we got the xd5 RGB Elite LCD

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from Corsair it's a pump res

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combo and uh that's just that was just

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to simplify the number of components it's also got a cool scream but right now it kind of looks like it's

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screaming I probably won't be spending a ton of time doing any cable management

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because uh boy howdy I don't have a ton

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of time

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yeah it's tubing time we got both of our

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radiators mounted one at the top one at the bottom and I think we are going to

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be just peachy I use soft tubing cuz I don't hate myself and I didn't want to

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do hard tubing and I needed this to be possible also the Rog Matrix it doesn't

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use hard tubing it uses soft tubing so yeah I'm pretty sure you just kind of

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like shove it on there and then these are compression fittings so what they do is that uh when you screw them on they

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tighten the edge of they they have these little prongs and then they tighten

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around that and then that gets your tube nice and tight and sealed and then it

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don't leak hopefully so that going to be too tight of a bend for this tubing I

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guess I can go to the top one and then that can go up and that prevents the

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fear of kinking though I have no fears of

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Kinks my phone number is 60 this isn't exactly a precise way of measuring

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things but I figure it's is good enough

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right this got to go a little bit longer than

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that so I'm going to go

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here and that goes goes on right

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there maybe it won't matter when I fill it with

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water I don't know man damn look at this

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beauty what the heck is this tube did he

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decide to buy this Oh I thought this was

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like sleeving oh oh God this is terrible

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dude look feel this oh yeah it's actually awful like but like put your

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hand right here like she's done but yeah that's just not going to work yeah yeah

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it's also an interesting mix and match of Brands here we got some EK we got

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some Corsair we got some Optimus these blocks are super nice that's a really

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expensive pump that's the fanciest pump I've ever seen But then why this tuing

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is this Corsair these are Corsair fittings too these are

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ugly like I these everything about this

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build looks great except these fittings in tubes does he have any 90° oh there's

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there's not a chance that this fitting right

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here is going to work out in any way

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yeah like he could make this CPU to GPU Line work it's just too long right now

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but you know you go like

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that and you're done this box cost $40

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and it's the worst tubing I've ever seen all I got to say is good luck man

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because I don't have a lot of extra tubing I need to make sure that every

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time I make a cut I can only go this cut

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only needs to be shortened so I always want to have a little bit extra because if I screw up a if I screw up a cut and

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it's too short I lose like this whole length it's supposed to like maybe losing like centimeter or half an inch

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or something you know oh I need to change this so This top thing this needs

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to go here this is the outlet Port this needs to go to the

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inlet one tiny little

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cut holy crap I think we're done okay

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now we just got to turn it on make sure everything's working and then we're going to start

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filling with water this is amazing an hour and 15 minutes to go little did

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Adam know his journey was far from over

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I think we're screwed boys turns out that this pump doesn't just use you USB

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power it also requires to be connected to a Corsair IQ Link Box that of course

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they don't include which means I have to make a trip to the store if I want this

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pump to work it doesn't matter if you don't care about any of the smart features you can't just run the pump off

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of the USB header you have to connect it to a Corsair IQ link I should have

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expected Corsair to pull this kind of in my defense Corsair does a

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great job of not telling you anywhere on the main page on their website you

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actually have to go into the text specs I believe and then go no nothing here

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that says it's required um if I go to guides maybe so

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I'd have to look at I'd have to review the manual they also do a great job of

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not showing it to you on the box except for this tiny little thing that says that IQ link is required it costs

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$60 are you kidding

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me and it's not even like we can return something like we did with the radiator

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I just have to spend $60 more this is how much time I got

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left it's now counting upwards to demonstrate how much time I'm wasting

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and how much in debt I will be at the end of this okay we have our funnel and

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our distilled water and this is going to be a pain in the to pour isn't it this

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is kind of terrifying do you see any drips anywhere so what's wrong here like

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why isn't basically what's happening is that

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there's air in the tubes already and that would be preventing the water from

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going so maybe if I give it a little bit of a

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tip it's flowing in a circle you can see it coming down the inlet yeah you see

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that no drips no drips let's do this we're finally up and

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running and I'm running combuster and cinn bench at the same time and I am

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actually blown away I was expecting temperatures to not be as good as they

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are but running cinebench 2024 we're at

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like 70° on the CPU 80° on the hottest

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core and then on the GPU we're running combuster at

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4K 50° C we have so much room to crank

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this thing up another notch I really excited I didn't think it would go this

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well we also haven't even done our Heating and Cooling Cycles which

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benefits PTM 7950 so it could get even

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better we could get even cooler than what we have right now you know what I

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kind of get it I kind of get why people water cool this is so cool seeing people

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get it it's so not worth the money so

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not worth the money and this look on his face right now it goes the other way

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when it leaks and you might look at the timer back there and you'll notice that

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it's counting uh up we went over budget

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oh no but we were really really close and I'm mostly blaming Corsair

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tell me about that so you buy their pump right you do a nice do yeah I mean I

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bought their pump pretty expensive pump it's very fancy um it doesn't run at all

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without also buying a sold separately IQ link Hub I also I saw the braided

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exterior tubing that you bought and I was like that seems like it'd be a

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really cool look but I have concern about cutting it cleanly and then it's

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still looking good where you tighten the collars on the compress yeah it looks

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like is when you go here looks great but

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when you get right up to the compression fittings you can see like this one I had

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to do a few times I can see that and it's it's already worn the reason why

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these aren't on all these fans connect to these Pogo pins and this fitting

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right here interferes with this getting a proper

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contact to actually send the signal they should all run I just have to flip I

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just have turned them all the way over here yeah why did you choose thermal take fans um because I wanted RGB okay

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and I I didn't want to spend too much money on RGB I see I got six of these

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for half the price of three course air fans yep that's fair enough yeah if you

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had both of these RADS actually running you'd have plenty of radiator right now

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and you would be getting better temperatures you can really tell whether your bottleneck is the thermal transfer

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between the CPU and the block or whether your bottleneck is the dissipation of

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the heat to the surrounding air by just touching the side of your

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radiator or just here touch the fins oh yeah that's warm you got to throw some

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more heat into the air here yeah even your Reservoir feels hot uh-oh what's

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the coolant temp at we can see 43 oh that's getting up there yeah So

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eventually we're going to be getting saturated right and then it just keeps freezing or what happens is the bigger

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the Delta the bigger the difference in temperature between the surrounding air

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and the coolant the more efficient the thermal transfer so you reach a point of

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equilibrium where as the liquid heats up

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the difference from the ambient air gets greater and the heat transfer gets

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greater so it flattens out the jibu is

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still so far below its thermal limits

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okay I can explain that the regular form

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factor for gpus is really not conducive

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to carrying heat away from them having a a fan blowing down onto a heat sink this

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thick with these super skinny low static pressure fans FS sucks we've done

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experiments in the past where we put a tower cooler onto a GPU and they run

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flipping cool even though the cooler itself weighs less than the gigantic

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coolers that we put on gpus these days gpus are actually much easier to cool

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even though they're 400 watts compared to you know 200 to 300 for a CPU because

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the dyes are so big you have so much

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surface area to carry that heat away compared to a CPU like especially on

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Intel where the die is this big and it's

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250 to 300 watts GPU you know 400 watts

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that big no big deal you spent so much

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money on your block I had so much money to spend well you could have made up for

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the budget overrun on that IQ controller and your time overrun if you had just

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gotten a reasonably priced block that's true but I think it's pretty realistic

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like when you did your first water cooling did you get every single part correct well maybe you did no I think

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that assumption is why people can feel afraid to try new things no I absolutely

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screwed up my first water cooling setup was a thermal take big water SE it was a

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piece of sh complete waste of money I

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thought that what I was buying was an all-in-one setup that could be expanded

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in the future to you know Go full custom

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I didn't realize that everything about it was complete garbage and I will say

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that the information that's out there to help people start water cooling is so

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much better it's it's a lot better really great like uh I was referring to

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a lot of jay2 sense guides because his water cooling guides were awesome it

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helps it they were great for somebody like me but also had depth that I wasn't even bothering to go into like he's like

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here's how to Hardline and I was like I'm not not today clearly not so what

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you want is one of these oh so this is a

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38 in ID 5/8 in od what you have is a

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3/8 in id/ in od so you can see how much

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skinnier than that wall is so you want thick wall tubing yeah this is the

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optimal size but now we need to answer the question does this beat the Rog

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Matrix I don't think we can answer that question until we answer did you have

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fun you know since it wasn't any of my

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own money I had a grand old

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time but how does my system compare to the incredible power of the Rog Matrix

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it comes close but not as close as I thought across the games I tested I

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found the tough gaming GPU lagged behind about 5 to 10% not being satisfied I

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decided to put on a quick and dirty overclock I found that I was able to

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pretty much match the Rog Matrix not bad

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back to spending the money though I think it doesn't really matter whose money it was because that wasn't the

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point the point was we're going to spend this money do we spend it on a matrix

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Rog 49g or do we spend it on ourselves

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do we spend it on learning something and

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uh water cooling components that we can carry forward to Future builds and the

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experience of diying something so with that in mind who do you think won you

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know I think it was a lot more fun to water cool and the idea that the Rog

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Matrix could just crap out and then I'm in the same spot I am now with a GPU

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that I would have to take apart and water cool anyways I feel like I'm

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better yes there's going to be maintenance that I have to do I'm going to have to like make sure that my Loop

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doesn't get clogged and there's a whole like maybe in the long run if I keep

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paying my myself at $21 an hour the Rog

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Matrix might come out on top but this is way more fun way cooler and I can also

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sell these if I go oh I don't want to water cool anymore I

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can anything but the radiator pump and Reservoir is not worth much okay you

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can't sell tubing blocks hold

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like a quarter of their value if you're lucky on a CPU and basically nothing for

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GPU with all that in mind then would you do it again

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yeah it sounds about right but would you tell the people

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