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Andy: Hello Floatplane; it is now 12 p.m, dropping my car at the airport 2 00:00:05.038 --> 00:00:08.742 and now we're gonna go hop on our train and go to some LAN parties. 3 00:00:08.742 --> 00:00:11.478 I still have three and a half hours till the flight takes off, 4 00:00:11.544 --> 00:00:16.049 but usually [the] shooters arrives like a little bit earlier, because we need to do this 5 00:00:18.151 --> 00:00:24.324 Carnet passport for goods, because all the camera gear are expensive 6 00:00:24.357 --> 00:00:28.194 and if we don't do that we're not being a good boy. 7 00:00:28.361 --> 00:00:28.962 Andy: Hey Luke. 8 00:00:29.095 --> 00:00:29.829 Luke: Oh what's up? 9 00:00:29.963 --> 00:00:30.530 Andy: How's it going? 10 00:00:30.663 --> 00:00:31.364 Luke: Not bad, how are you? 11 00:00:31.498 --> 00:00:32.766 Andy: Good, I'm doing Floatplane. 12 00:00:32.899 --> 00:00:33.733 Luke: Oh wow. 13 00:00:34.501 --> 00:00:34.934 Andy: Yeah. 14 00:00:34.934 --> 00:00:36.336 Luke: Didn't know I was randomly gonna be filmed. 15 00:00:37.037 --> 00:00:37.570 Andy: Sorry. 16 00:00:37.570 --> 00:00:37.971 Andy: Hahaha. 17 00:00:37.971 --> 00:00:38.938 Luke: When did you even get here? 18 00:00:39.005 --> 00:00:41.374 Andy: Probably 1:30-ish. 19 00:00:41.608 --> 00:00:43.209 Luke: What the-? 20 00:00:43.476 --> 00:00:45.512 Andy: Because Carnet, you have to deal with that. 21 00:00:45.678 --> 00:00:46.513 Luke: Oooh. 22 00:00:46.646 --> 00:00:49.049 Andy: The four-time secondary is out, it's real. 23 00:00:49.182 --> 00:00:49.649 Luke: Yeah. 24 00:00:49.783 --> 00:00:50.183 Andy: Yeah. 25 00:00:50.283 --> 00:00:51.051 Luke: That's pretty annoying. 26 00:00:51.217 --> 00:00:52.786 Luke: Where were you? I didn't see you at all. 27 00:00:52.919 --> 00:00:53.787 Andy: I was over there. 28 00:00:53.787 --> 00:00:54.187 Luke: Wha- 29 00:00:54.187 --> 00:00:55.422 Andy: Yeah, are you excited? 30 00:00:56.556 --> 00:00:57.724 Luke: Yeah, it should be good; 31 00:00:57.724 --> 00:01:00.060 I know very little about it to be completely honest. 32 00:01:00.060 --> 00:01:01.027 Andy: Hahahahaha. 33 00:01:01.561 --> 00:01:03.997 Andy: I heard it's like a party house. Luke: I heard theres a LAN and a house. 34 00:01:04.030 --> 00:01:04.497 Andy: Yeah. 35 00:01:04.531 --> 00:01:04.998 Luke: Yeah. 36 00:01:05.031 --> 00:01:07.267 Andy: They have like 14 PCs or something like that? 37 00:01:07.300 --> 00:01:10.470 Luke: The main thing that I'm excited about is I think 38 00:01:10.470 --> 00:01:14.441 this person without the budget of an whole company behind them 39 00:01:14.441 --> 00:01:17.744 and a huge team, has a better LAN in their house than Linus. 40 00:01:17.744 --> 00:01:19.679 Andy: Exactly that's what I thought. Luke: Which is hilarious to me. 41 00:01:19.712 --> 00:01:20.113 Luke: Yeah 42 00:01:20.113 --> 00:01:21.281 Andy: That's, that's like- 43 00:01:21.281 --> 00:01:23.683 Andy: I feel like that's the ultimate version of like Linus house. 44 00:01:23.683 --> 00:01:24.217 Luke: Yeah. 45 00:01:24.217 --> 00:01:24.784 Andy: Yeah. 46 00:01:24.818 --> 00:01:26.753 Luke: Yeah, Linus's house like sucks now. 47 00:01:27.187 --> 00:01:27.787 Linus: Perfect. 48 00:01:28.221 --> 00:01:28.888 Andy: You made it. 49 00:01:29.355 --> 00:01:30.390 Linus: You better believe it. 50 00:01:31.991 --> 00:01:32.692 Andy: Are you excited? 51 00:01:33.226 --> 00:01:36.763 Linus: Yeah actually, I think both of these things are gonna be pretty cool. 52 00:01:37.330 --> 00:01:40.100 Linus: LAN house, NASA tour, what could go wrong? 53 00:01:40.166 --> 00:01:42.435 Andy: We didn't talk about the NASA tour but like- 54 00:01:42.435 --> 00:01:43.636 Linus: Nine dollar snacks. 55 00:01:43.837 --> 00:01:44.404 Andy: Hahaha. 56 00:01:45.605 --> 00:01:47.373 Andy: We were just chatting about like, 57 00:01:47.373 --> 00:01:50.543 it's like that house feels like the ultimate version of your place. 58 00:01:50.543 --> 00:01:51.811 Linus: I know right? 59 00:01:51.811 --> 00:01:52.245 Andy: Yeah. 60 00:01:52.278 --> 00:01:53.947 Linus: They did it better than I could. 61 00:01:55.381 --> 00:01:56.683 Kid: We're going to see a LAN house? 62 00:01:56.883 --> 00:01:58.284 Linus: Oh, did no one tell you that? 63 00:01:58.351 --> 00:01:58.852 Kid: No. 64 00:01:58.852 --> 00:02:00.820 Linus: Oh, well yeah, we're going to see a LAN house; 65 00:02:01.421 --> 00:02:02.922 it's like our house but way better. 66 00:02:03.189 --> 00:02:03.590 Kid: Okay. 67 00:02:03.723 --> 00:02:07.227 Linus: It's like also a cat house, it's like Lan and cat in paradise. 68 00:02:07.827 --> 00:02:08.928 Kid: You're making me sad. 69 00:02:08.928 --> 00:02:12.031 Linus: Well, don't be sad for us, be happy for them. 70 00:02:12.332 --> 00:02:13.533 Andy: Hahahahaha. 71 00:02:13.566 --> 00:02:14.801 Linus: It's little sad for us. 72 00:02:22.609 --> 00:02:27.547 Andy: Alright local time, 11:39; we have arrived in Austin, Texas. 73 00:02:28.481 --> 00:02:32.552 Andy: Gotta find Linus; I think they have a car, maybe. 74 00:02:33.720 --> 00:02:37.991 Linus: We made it boys, all in one piece, right? 75 00:02:37.991 --> 00:02:39.325 Andy: We're in Austin Texas now. 76 00:02:39.359 --> 00:02:39.993 Linus: Two pieces. 77 00:02:40.126 --> 00:02:41.628 Andy: Hahahaha. 78 00:02:41.694 --> 00:02:42.996 Linus: Like we were when we started. 79 00:02:43.129 --> 00:02:45.265 Andy: Yeah, nice; how was your flight? 80 00:02:45.365 --> 00:02:49.169 Linus: Okay, actually; we only had two people in our row so 81 00:02:49.169 --> 00:02:49.669 Andy: That's awesome. 82 00:02:49.669 --> 00:02:52.172 Linus: we got to stretch out a little bit, played some video games; 83 00:02:52.205 --> 00:02:57.577 my Ally ran out of battery, I really got to get an Ally X, or PD power bank. 84 00:02:57.777 --> 00:02:59.312 Andy: Hahahaha. 85 00:03:00.113 --> 00:03:01.214 Andy: Alright, do we have a car? 86 00:03:01.814 --> 00:03:03.316 Linus: I don't know, do you know the plan? 87 00:03:03.316 --> 00:03:03.950 Kid: We can buy one. 88 00:03:04.050 --> 00:03:05.151 Andy: I don't really know. 89 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:08.221 Andy: I thought you rent a car or something like that. 90 00:03:08.221 --> 00:03:09.155 Linus: We gotta rent a car- What. 91 00:03:09.289 --> 00:03:10.790 Kid: Let's go over to the dealership. 92 00:03:10.823 --> 00:03:12.859 Linus: Let's go to the dealership and- What are even talking about? 93 00:03:12.859 --> 00:03:13.860 Andy: Hahahaha. 94 00:03:14.794 --> 00:03:16.529 Linus: Yeah, we weren't joking about like 95 00:03:16.563 --> 00:03:19.098 not knowing what the deal is with ground transportation; 96 00:03:19.132 --> 00:03:25.171 so um, I'm filming all day tomorrow so I guess Luke's renting a car? 97 00:03:25.205 --> 00:03:25.705 Luke: Maybe. 98 00:03:25.738 --> 00:03:29.108 Linus: Because we have to go like three hours from Austin to Houston. 99 00:03:29.108 --> 00:03:29.576 Luke: Yeah. 100 00:03:29.576 --> 00:03:31.177 Andy: You don't want to take a uber. 101 00:03:31.211 --> 00:03:34.347 Linus: Uh no, not for three hours. Andy: Not for three hours. 102 00:03:34.414 --> 00:03:36.316 Linus: Where's our flight out of though? 103 00:03:36.849 --> 00:03:40.053 Linus: Oh Houston to YVR, okay so I'm not like coming back to Austin. 104 00:03:40.486 --> 00:03:41.054 Linus: Okay. 105 00:03:43.489 --> 00:03:46.659 Andy: That should be fine, like they do car rental, that's you know- 106 00:03:46.693 --> 00:03:50.396 Linus: Oh my God, look the sign says "hey guys, it's me Austin". 107 00:03:50.863 --> 00:03:51.564 Andy: Hahahaha. 108 00:03:51.664 --> 00:03:52.198 Linus: It doesn't. 109 00:03:53.733 --> 00:03:57.403 Andy: Feeding fans faster with AI. 110 00:03:57.737 --> 00:04:02.909 Linus: I wouldn't describe them as fresh but they are flowers, so they're like half right. 111 00:04:05.578 --> 00:04:08.514 Linus: Dude, like 50 Canadian dollars. 112 00:04:11.150 --> 00:04:13.386 Linus: I don't know if there's anyone I love that much. 113 00:04:13.419 --> 00:04:13.886 Andy: Hahahahahaha. 114 00:04:13.886 --> 00:04:16.689 Linus: I wouldn't buy these flowers for myself and I'm a narcissist. 115 00:04:16.723 --> 00:04:17.690 Luke: Hahahahaha. 116 00:04:18.291 --> 00:04:22.695 Andy: It turns out we don't have a car so we're ubering, let's go! 117 00:04:23.730 --> 00:04:24.897 Andy: We have arrived. 118 00:04:25.365 --> 00:04:26.165 Linus: Let's go! 119 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:26.833 Andy: Let's go! 120 00:04:26.866 --> 00:04:27.800 Linus: We've got our bags. 121 00:04:27.867 --> 00:04:32.972 Linus: My son doesn't know what Denny's is, so um we need to rectify that. 122 00:04:36.576 --> 00:04:38.711 Linus: So that he'll know what Denny's is, it's I'm not saying- 123 00:04:38.745 --> 00:04:40.280 Kid: I've never seen it in Canada though. 124 00:04:40.413 --> 00:04:41.547 Linus: Yeah, we've got it. 125 00:04:41.748 --> 00:04:43.349 Linus: I'm not saying it's a great experience, 126 00:04:43.349 --> 00:04:45.585 I'm just saying we need to, you know, rectify that. 127 00:04:46.653 --> 00:04:48.021 Luke: He's not even saying it's a good experience. 128 00:04:48.054 --> 00:04:49.789 Linus: Yeah, yeah. 129 00:04:49.989 --> 00:04:51.190 Luke: It is an experience. 130 00:04:51.190 --> 00:04:56.529 Linus: Yeah, once Luke and I had to serve ourselves at Denny's; 131 00:04:56.729 --> 00:04:57.530 Luke: Hahahaha. 132 00:04:57.530 --> 00:04:59.499 Linus: because the server fell asleep. 133 00:04:59.966 --> 00:05:00.667 Kid: What? 134 00:05:00.833 --> 00:05:02.035 Luke: That's one of my favorite stories. 135 00:05:02.068 --> 00:05:04.737 Linus: So the cook put our food out on like the counter, 136 00:05:04.904 --> 00:05:07.473 and our server was just like asleep in the chair; 137 00:05:07.640 --> 00:05:10.643 and we realized so we just like got up and got our own plate, 138 00:05:10.810 --> 00:05:12.512 we didn't want to wake them, they seemed tired. 139 00:05:12.512 --> 00:05:14.180 Luke: Yeah, it's whatever; it was like- 140 00:05:14.180 --> 00:05:17.917 Andy: So the plan is we're gonna be there like 9:30; 141 00:05:17.950 --> 00:05:20.253 so should we meet here around like 8:30? 142 00:05:20.286 --> 00:05:21.821 Linus: Yeah, so like 8:33. 143 00:05:21.954 --> 00:05:26.893 Andy: Arrived to my room, now it's time to dump all my camera gear on the table, 144 00:05:26.893 --> 00:05:36.836 and have them charged; it's now 12:17 and we have about eight hours until we take off. 145 00:05:36.836 --> 00:05:42.475 So I'm gonna charge them and get some sleep and see you guys tomorrow morning. 146 00:05:43.576 --> 00:05:48.348 Andy: Morning guys 7:59 right now, I'm gonna go get some breakfast 147 00:05:48.348 --> 00:05:50.683 and head the road to the LAN party house. 148 00:05:50.917 --> 00:05:52.285 Andy: Alright second day in the morning. 149 00:05:52.485 --> 00:05:53.086 Linus: Oh. 150 00:05:53.186 --> 00:05:54.587 Andy: We've got the Linus here. 151 00:05:54.921 --> 00:05:55.521 Linus: Morning. 152 00:05:57.557 --> 00:06:00.626 Linus: I'm just checking the address of where we're supposed to be going, 153 00:06:00.626 --> 00:06:06.899 Linus: and it's not on my itinerary; so i'll find it somewhere else I guess. 154 00:06:07.567 --> 00:06:10.937 Linus: So what would I even, what would you even call this room? 155 00:06:10.970 --> 00:06:12.939 Because it's not really like a theater. Jade: This is a play room. 156 00:06:12.972 --> 00:06:14.907 Kenton: Game room, yeah let's call it a game room. 157 00:06:14.907 --> 00:06:17.877 Kenton: At first I said, once I said adult playroom, and I said wait... 158 00:06:17.910 --> 00:06:18.344 Linus: Aaaa! 159 00:06:18.344 --> 00:06:19.746 Everyone: *Laughs* 160 00:06:20.279 --> 00:06:20.847 Linus: Whoa. 161 00:06:21.881 --> 00:06:23.249 Linus: Everyone just take a step back here. 162 00:06:23.816 --> 00:06:25.952 Linus: Okay so grown-ups playroom. 163 00:06:26.152 --> 00:06:29.622 Let's pretend that I've have never seen the reddit post, 164 00:06:29.822 --> 00:06:32.725 and I want you to just kind of like, you know, give me the, 165 00:06:32.725 --> 00:06:35.695 give me kind of a the wow factor version 166 00:06:35.695 --> 00:06:39.098 and let's go from least interesting to most interesting, 167 00:06:39.132 --> 00:06:41.968 and I'd say that probably starts with you know, 168 00:06:41.968 --> 00:06:46.205 we have four chairs, und[and] tv; you know? 169 00:06:46.406 --> 00:06:46.973 Kenton: Yeah. 170 00:06:47.006 --> 00:06:48.274 Linus: So that's, that's what I think what a lot of people 171 00:06:48.274 --> 00:06:51.310 would imagine a gaming room might be. 172 00:06:51.310 --> 00:06:54.247 Kenton: Yeah, you know we've got our like PS5 in here and- 173 00:06:54.247 --> 00:06:58.050 Linus: There you go, okay yeah, so this is the like, the boring version. 174 00:06:58.217 --> 00:06:59.852 What is this, 98 inch? 175 00:07:00.019 --> 00:07:02.789 Kenton: Uh, yes, yes. 176 00:07:02.822 --> 00:07:04.457 Kid: Did you just guess how many inches it was? 177 00:07:04.957 --> 00:07:05.591 Kenton: Well I- 178 00:07:05.725 --> 00:07:06.659 Linus: It's not a guess. 179 00:07:06.793 --> 00:07:08.694 Kenton and Jade: Hahahahaha. 180 00:07:09.362 --> 00:07:10.930 Linus: Okay, 98 inch TV. 181 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.401 Jade: Controllers in here. 182 00:07:15.535 --> 00:07:19.972 Linus: Excellent, and I see some kind of power something there; 183 00:07:19.972 --> 00:07:22.475 so I guess the controller's charge inside the drawers. 184 00:07:23.376 --> 00:07:28.181 Kenton: Uh, no, they unfortunately don't; that's just for the couches themselves. 185 00:07:28.181 --> 00:07:29.081 Linus: Oh, got it, okay. 186 00:07:29.782 --> 00:07:31.884 Linus: Uh power recliner couches. 187 00:07:31.951 --> 00:07:33.486 Kenton: Some of them might do something. 188 00:07:35.455 --> 00:07:37.890 Linus: I've been meaning to do that for the longest time; 189 00:07:37.890 --> 00:07:42.261 like have my controller stashed like all charged properly, 190 00:07:42.295 --> 00:07:43.563 whenever everything's put away. 191 00:07:45.131 --> 00:07:46.165 Right now I have a bucket. 192 00:07:46.799 --> 00:07:47.867 Kenton and Jade: Hahahahahaha. 193 00:07:48.301 --> 00:07:49.402 Linus: I'll get there someday. 194 00:07:49.502 --> 00:07:51.771 Kenton: There are a lot of unfinished projects in this house. 195 00:07:51.871 --> 00:07:58.377 Linus: Yeah, game controller storage, uh someday, you know, charging solution, uh 196 00:07:58.444 --> 00:08:05.985 "but there are a lot of unfinished projects because gaming is important". 197 00:08:06.018 --> 00:08:06.786 Jade: Hahahahahaha. 198 00:08:06.919 --> 00:08:11.557 Kenton: The world of audiophiles is large and I'm not part of that world 199 00:08:11.624 --> 00:08:16.629 but I spent a day looking around and trying to decide what kind of speakers to buy 200 00:08:16.662 --> 00:08:19.398 and uh, ended up with these. 201 00:08:19.565 --> 00:08:19.999 Linus: Yeah- 202 00:08:20.032 --> 00:08:21.501 Kenton: Audiophiles see them in the photos 203 00:08:21.534 --> 00:08:24.437 and they're like you have those positions wrong! You're doing it wrong! 204 00:08:24.470 --> 00:08:26.539 And I'm like, I don't know it sounds fine to me. 205 00:08:26.672 --> 00:08:28.574 Everyone: Hahahahahaha. 206 00:08:29.742 --> 00:08:30.943 Linus: Fair enough. 207 00:08:31.410 --> 00:08:36.916 Linus: My understanding is a big benefit of these is the like 208 00:08:36.916 --> 00:08:40.386 the excellent stereo separation and positionality of the audio; 209 00:08:40.386 --> 00:08:45.791 so it may be that um the placement, some people are very particular- 210 00:08:45.791 --> 00:08:49.829 I, personally I don't, I find that once you've put in 211 00:08:49.829 --> 00:08:53.699 whatever compensation your receiver does I kind of find it fine 212 00:08:53.733 --> 00:08:58.638 for the most part, but I'm sure someone has an opinion other than that. 213 00:08:58.638 --> 00:09:00.673 Well, clearly someone has an opinion. 214 00:09:00.673 --> 00:09:03.175 Kenton: So someone told me you have to angle them slightly 215 00:09:03.209 --> 00:09:05.144 so that they're pointing at it, so I did that but- 216 00:09:05.144 --> 00:09:06.913 Linus: Yeah, yeah, totally. 217 00:09:07.079 --> 00:09:08.147 Kenton: I don't know, I can't tell the difference. 218 00:09:08.214 --> 00:09:10.616 Linus: Okay, cool, what else is in here; 219 00:09:10.616 --> 00:09:14.287 like I don't want to like start opening things... with you I'm assuming- 220 00:09:14.287 --> 00:09:17.557 Kenton: Well there's a lot of wires, but you know we've got a receiver here. Linus: Yeah, okay. 221 00:09:18.224 --> 00:09:21.794 Kenton: That also, um yeah. 222 00:09:21.794 --> 00:09:24.931 Linus: No that's fine, no that's good; this is like, 223 00:09:24.931 --> 00:09:29.135 this is the kind of like detail that I want to kind of get into 224 00:09:29.235 --> 00:09:32.271 that you know is not necessarily there, so I want to go through; 225 00:09:32.305 --> 00:09:37.543 so we've got lots of time today, so Marantz receiver... 226 00:09:37.543 --> 00:09:42.315 Linus: I assume that's HDMI 2.1, uh that looks like one of their newer ones. 227 00:09:42.815 --> 00:09:44.784 Kenton: It's a Cinema 40. 228 00:09:45.217 --> 00:09:47.553 Linus: Uh, cinema 40, okay. 229 00:09:49.956 --> 00:09:56.696 Linus: Man I love this, um although the highlight in this cupboard 230 00:09:56.696 --> 00:10:00.499 for me is the Xbox 360 first party dongle. 231 00:10:00.666 --> 00:10:02.735 Kenton and Jade: Hahahahahaha. 232 00:10:02.735 --> 00:10:04.470 Kenton: Oh yeah, that's- 233 00:10:04.670 --> 00:10:05.304 Kenton: Hahahahaha. 234 00:10:05.304 --> 00:10:08.474 Linus: Well you might, you might need to connect some Xbox 360 controllers. 235 00:10:08.474 --> 00:10:13.212 Kenton: That is part- So Duck Game takes eight players; 236 00:10:13.245 --> 00:10:18.017 and you can only have I think seven bluetooth controllers? Or something like that; 237 00:10:18.050 --> 00:10:21.153 but uh, that gives us another four controllers, so there you go. 238 00:10:21.153 --> 00:10:30.529 Linus: I believe the new um microsoft dongles can do up to, can they do up to eight? 239 00:10:30.529 --> 00:10:35.201 I don't remember, we have our own solution to it that no longer has to involve 240 00:10:35.201 --> 00:10:39.405 dual, uh dual dongles but I forget how we did it; 241 00:10:39.405 --> 00:10:41.674 at any rate yeah, I love that. 242 00:10:41.674 --> 00:10:44.076 The third party ones just aren't as reliable, 243 00:10:44.110 --> 00:10:46.579 you've got to get the first party microsoft. 244 00:10:46.579 --> 00:10:47.279 Kenton: Hahahahaha. 245 00:10:47.947 --> 00:10:53.486 Linus: I actually love these outlets right here. 246 00:10:54.286 --> 00:10:55.988 Linus: That is so convenient. 247 00:10:56.288 --> 00:11:03.729 Linus: See I thought of this, but my execution was um, aspirational; 248 00:11:03.863 --> 00:11:07.333 so at the front of my theater room I have a little built-in like, 249 00:11:07.867 --> 00:11:10.302 I won't call it a stage because the room is just, 250 00:11:10.436 --> 00:11:12.571 it's smaller than I would have wanted it to be, 251 00:11:12.605 --> 00:11:15.708 so it's it's more like a a little lip almost; 252 00:11:15.741 --> 00:11:19.745 it's about this deep and it's about this tall, and my idea behind it was 253 00:11:19.779 --> 00:11:23.516 man I'll, I'll have like all of my wires hidden in there 254 00:11:23.549 --> 00:11:26.318 and then they'll go up the wall to you know, a tv 255 00:11:26.318 --> 00:11:28.621 or all the way up to a projector, you know, whatever. 256 00:11:28.754 --> 00:11:31.524 And I can have power in there and so if like you know 257 00:11:31.557 --> 00:11:34.727 one of the kids friends brings over a playstation and I don't have one 258 00:11:35.094 --> 00:11:38.464 they can like plug in, they can plug into HDMI, they can plug into power; 259 00:11:38.631 --> 00:11:41.834 anyway, long story short they like lift- 260 00:11:41.834 --> 00:11:45.071 The top lifts up on a hinge to get at any of that stuff, 261 00:11:45.204 --> 00:11:48.240 and it's made out of MDF, and so it's like crazy heavy 262 00:11:48.274 --> 00:11:52.244 and I don't have uh, I got these this gas lift things, 263 00:11:52.511 --> 00:11:55.247 that are supposed to hold it up, they totally don't work 264 00:11:55.247 --> 00:11:55.781 Kenton: Hahahaha. 265 00:11:55.781 --> 00:12:01.087 Linus: and so it just, I wish I had just put another outlet on the front of the thing 266 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:04.523 for charging stuff and whatever else, because I just, I didn't. 267 00:12:05.257 --> 00:12:06.058 Kenton: I should point out. 268 00:12:07.026 --> 00:12:12.398 Linus: This room has a party trick, a LAN party trick. 269 00:12:12.665 --> 00:12:14.433 Kenton: Hahahaha. 270 00:12:14.567 --> 00:12:15.935 Linus: I'm a professional writer. 271 00:12:17.903 --> 00:12:20.806 Linus: Okay let's have a look at that, let's watch, 272 00:12:20.806 --> 00:12:23.175 we'll have to get a transformer sound effect in here. 273 00:12:23.175 --> 00:12:24.210 Jade: Hahahahaha. 274 00:12:24.310 --> 00:12:25.478 Kenton: Alright let me open this. 275 00:12:25.478 --> 00:12:26.879 Andy: *makes transformer noise* 276 00:12:27.046 --> 00:12:30.516 Kenton: Open the bottoms first, for support. 277 00:12:30.683 --> 00:12:31.450 Linus: Okay. 278 00:12:33.085 --> 00:12:35.621 Linus: Alright, uh very cool, and then- 279 00:12:36.088 --> 00:12:38.457 Kenton: ...It's a mount, so you can pull it out if you want it closer to you. 280 00:12:38.457 --> 00:12:39.558 Linus: Ooooh, that's very nice. 281 00:12:39.992 --> 00:12:40.926 Linus: Uuum. 282 00:12:42.261 --> 00:12:44.163 Linus: Okay... quad outlet. 283 00:12:44.163 --> 00:12:45.097 Jade: ...Left side in there. 284 00:12:46.499 --> 00:12:48.601 Kenton: Yeah there's storage for snacks up here. 285 00:12:49.468 --> 00:12:53.139 Linus: Oh nice! The quad outlet strategy makes a return. 286 00:12:53.739 --> 00:12:59.078 Linus: Now I gotta, I gotta wonder like how many of these share a circuit? 287 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:02.314 Like you've got a lot of outlets just in case you know 288 00:13:02.348 --> 00:13:04.583 people want to like I said you know plug in their, 289 00:13:04.617 --> 00:13:10.222 their D-Box, you know, motion sim chair or whatever but um 290 00:13:10.256 --> 00:13:12.158 are there like not a ton of circuits? 291 00:13:12.158 --> 00:13:13.392 I mean you're not going to power anything- 292 00:13:13.526 --> 00:13:14.827 Kenton: I don't remember how many circuits it is, 293 00:13:14.827 --> 00:13:17.630 I mean I think I said, you know, "make sure it's a few circuits". 294 00:13:17.663 --> 00:13:18.631 Linus: Okay. 295 00:13:18.898 --> 00:13:22.968 Kenton: But no one really plugs much in except for I mean the monitors, obviously. 296 00:13:23.002 --> 00:13:23.502 Linus: Yeah. 297 00:13:26.405 --> 00:13:30.643 Kenton: In the Palo Alto house I actually made sure that it was 298 00:13:30.643 --> 00:13:32.845 like a circuit for every two stations, 299 00:13:32.845 --> 00:13:34.947 because I thought people were going to bring their PCs 300 00:13:34.980 --> 00:13:36.615 and plug them in, and plug them into the monitor, 301 00:13:36.816 --> 00:13:41.887 and no one ever did; that's another one of these things where like 302 00:13:41.887 --> 00:13:45.925 everyone on the internet says, oh but the fun of a LAN party is bringing your PCs 303 00:13:45.925 --> 00:13:48.961 and yes, you know that was really fun when I was a kid; but uh, 304 00:13:49.795 --> 00:13:51.764 if you have the PCs no one does that, they just- 305 00:13:51.764 --> 00:13:52.965 Linus: Yeah no, I wouldn't bother. 306 00:13:52.965 --> 00:13:53.666 Kenton: Hahahaha. 307 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.236 Linus: Okay, what else can you show me in here. 308 00:13:58.504 --> 00:13:59.205 Kenton: These guys. 309 00:13:59.338 --> 00:14:04.243 Kenton: If someone could pull on the the other end there. 310 00:14:07.913 --> 00:14:09.748 Kid: Oh, didn't mom want one of these. 311 00:14:09.782 --> 00:14:13.319 Linus: Yes, but I didn't think to build it into to our floor, so... Kid: Those look dense. 312 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:14.086 Kid: Why not? 313 00:14:14.520 --> 00:14:16.288 Linus: Well, because I didn't think of it boy. 314 00:14:18.390 --> 00:14:19.491 Jade: Do you like playing DDR? 315 00:14:19.658 --> 00:14:21.727 Linus: I've only played a couple of times, 316 00:14:21.861 --> 00:14:24.330 because I'm a cheapskate and I don't believe in arcades. 317 00:14:25.531 --> 00:14:27.099 Linus: I can't, I can't- 318 00:14:27.132 --> 00:14:27.967 Jade: It's really good cardio. 319 00:14:28.067 --> 00:14:30.636 Linus: I can't pay every time I play a game. 320 00:14:30.769 --> 00:14:32.872 Kid: Then pay it once to go forever. 321 00:14:33.539 --> 00:14:38.277 Linus: And I fully understand that sometimes I waste a lot of money 322 00:14:38.410 --> 00:14:41.747 because of that unwillingness; like I recently bought a pinball machine. 323 00:14:41.881 --> 00:14:46.619 I could, I could play pinball more than I probably would ever want 324 00:14:46.652 --> 00:14:49.321 at a dollar a play, um... 325 00:14:50.589 --> 00:14:51.123 Kenton: Hahahaha. 326 00:14:51.123 --> 00:14:54.627 Linus: and not have to buy the pinball machine and pay for maintenance for it. 327 00:14:54.660 --> 00:14:57.830 Linus: But I just, I don't know, I don't know what it is; but I can't handle it. 328 00:14:57.863 --> 00:14:58.931 I can't handle like- 329 00:14:58.964 --> 00:14:59.798 Jade: *unintelligible* as a service. 330 00:14:59.932 --> 00:15:00.332 Linus: Yeah. 331 00:15:01.400 --> 00:15:02.868 Kid: And they have four of these. 332 00:15:03.302 --> 00:15:04.803 Linus: That's wild. 333 00:15:04.904 --> 00:15:05.638 Kenton: Yeah. 334 00:15:05.838 --> 00:15:07.339 Linus: So these are fully custom right? 335 00:15:07.940 --> 00:15:15.047 Kenton: Uh, these are uh LTec, it's a company in Poland actually 336 00:15:15.114 --> 00:15:18.984 that constructs these pads and then we we put the the wood framing around it. 337 00:15:19.351 --> 00:15:20.419 Linus: Oh, okay. 338 00:15:20.452 --> 00:15:21.921 Kenton: Yeah, so the pads are just ordered off the internet. 339 00:15:22.021 --> 00:15:23.555 Linus: Okay, L-TEK. 340 00:15:23.589 --> 00:15:30.329 Kenton: I have not yet found any software that uses all four, but it exists; 341 00:15:33.065 --> 00:15:35.801 I haven't got, this is one of those projects I haven't gotten around to 342 00:15:35.801 --> 00:15:38.070 is like figuring out how to utilize all four of them, 343 00:15:38.070 --> 00:15:42.074 or seeing if I have to go and modify the open source. 344 00:15:42.441 --> 00:15:48.681 Linus: For those parts, four players, haven't uh done that yet, 345 00:15:49.415 --> 00:15:53.352 Linus: but hey um... someday. 346 00:15:54.086 --> 00:15:55.421 Linus: Okay that's pretty cool. 347 00:15:55.421 --> 00:15:57.122 Kenton: The center two are gonna wear out, 348 00:15:57.289 --> 00:15:58.991 and then it's gonna be like well I have backups. 349 00:16:01.627 --> 00:16:05.531 Kenton: But I, we both play a lot for exercise, that's- 350 00:16:05.531 --> 00:16:06.198 Linus: Right. 351 00:16:06.999 --> 00:16:10.469 Kenton: Like I will actually play almost every day because it's here. 352 00:16:10.502 --> 00:16:11.136 Linus: Very cool. 353 00:16:11.236 --> 00:16:11.904 Kenton: I enjoy it. 354 00:16:12.538 --> 00:16:14.039 Jade: It is my preferred cardio. 355 00:16:14.173 --> 00:16:16.775 Kenton: Most other forms of exercise I can't bring myself to do. 356 00:16:16.942 --> 00:16:18.177 Linus: Yeah no, I hear that. 357 00:16:18.210 --> 00:16:19.778 Andy: So underneath this is concrete? 358 00:16:20.779 --> 00:16:23.315 Kenton: Yeah, well there's like a layer of plywood 359 00:16:23.349 --> 00:16:25.417 and then under that is the slab. 360 00:16:25.451 --> 00:16:25.951 Linus: Got it. 361 00:16:26.051 --> 00:16:26.719 Andy: Wow. 362 00:16:27.019 --> 00:16:29.989 Jade: We actually have some pictures from back when this was all concrete 363 00:16:30.022 --> 00:16:31.023 and there's a rectangle. 364 00:16:31.457 --> 00:16:31.991 Linus: *unintelligible* 365 00:16:31.991 --> 00:16:34.693 Kenton: And like this carpet is directly on the slab, so that's 366 00:16:34.693 --> 00:16:35.260 Linus: Right. 367 00:16:35.260 --> 00:16:36.061 Kenton: a little bit lower there. 368 00:16:36.528 --> 00:16:37.629 Linus: Very cool. 369 00:16:38.630 --> 00:16:47.606 Linus: These are actually embedded in the concrete, in the concrete slab; 370 00:16:47.773 --> 00:16:55.514 which is much harder to do after it's poured, ask me how I know. 371 00:16:55.514 --> 00:16:56.315 Kenton and Jade: Hahahaha. 372 00:16:56.982 --> 00:17:00.152 Kenton: Similarly there's a, there's a cable tube that, you know 373 00:17:00.152 --> 00:17:05.691 other cables are going through, that goes into that cabinet that is through the slab. 374 00:17:07.960 --> 00:17:09.428 Linus: And how do you access the cabinet? 375 00:17:11.030 --> 00:17:18.137 Kenton: It, so these this wood frame can come out and then it's just, it's right about here; 376 00:17:18.170 --> 00:17:19.038 Linus: Got it. 377 00:17:19.405 --> 00:17:21.140 Kenton: and then the other end is just in that cabinet. 378 00:17:22.107 --> 00:17:26.378 Linus: And then that's, I believe that's the, that's all the party tricks in this room; 379 00:17:26.412 --> 00:17:27.046 Linus: is that correct? 380 00:17:27.046 --> 00:17:27.813 Jade: Well there's- 381 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:28.714 Kenton: We do have the cat bathroom. 382 00:17:28.747 --> 00:17:29.314 Jade: The cat bathroom. 383 00:17:29.314 --> 00:17:30.382 Linus: Excellent, okay. 384 00:17:30.482 --> 00:17:31.517 Kenton: This one, um- 385 00:17:32.618 --> 00:17:35.754 Linus: Is that there to prevent the cats from using that particular door? 386 00:17:35.754 --> 00:17:41.660 Kenton: Yeah, so this cat bathroom is also connected to our oak(?) pair's bedroom, 387 00:17:41.693 --> 00:17:46.265 and she sometimes has a cat here, though sometimes the cat stays at her friend's house; 388 00:17:46.265 --> 00:17:51.270 so when she has the cat here then her cat uses this one, and our cat uses the one upstairs. 389 00:17:51.403 --> 00:17:52.938 Linus: Got it, okay, so this is- 390 00:17:52.938 --> 00:17:55.174 Kenton: So we blocked this so that they wouldn't interact. 391 00:17:55.174 --> 00:17:56.308 Linus: Cat bathroom 1. 392 00:17:56.842 --> 00:18:00.712 Kenton: Someday we might have, you know, two cats that are both ours 393 00:18:00.712 --> 00:18:03.282 and interact with each other, and then we don't have to block this. 394 00:18:03.715 --> 00:18:06.185 Kenton: So my friend sent me this, 395 00:18:06.218 --> 00:18:06.785 Linus: Yeah. 396 00:18:06.819 --> 00:18:11.156 Kenton: for arguing on the internet in his favor, he's a founder of a startup 397 00:18:11.190 --> 00:18:17.563 and I argued on hacker news that his startup was good, 398 00:18:17.596 --> 00:18:20.899 and he sent me this trophy for arguing on the internet. 399 00:18:20.999 --> 00:18:24.970 He said he found the biggest dumbest trophy he could find and sent this to me. 400 00:18:25.137 --> 00:18:25.971 Kenton: Just as a joke 401 00:18:26.738 --> 00:18:32.077 Everyone: *Laughs* 402 00:18:33.812 --> 00:18:34.713 Linus: Excellent. 403 00:18:35.948 --> 00:18:41.220 Kenton: So, so I put it here knowing he'd come eventually and want to know where the trophy is, 404 00:18:41.220 --> 00:18:42.754 and I'd say it's got its own room. 405 00:18:43.122 --> 00:18:44.957 *Laughter* 406 00:18:44.957 --> 00:18:46.658 Linus: I can't believe how quiet it is in here. 407 00:18:47.726 --> 00:18:48.927 Kenton: Well none of the computers are on. 408 00:18:49.027 --> 00:18:49.361 Linus: Oh. 409 00:18:49.361 --> 00:18:50.762 Kenton: Well like three of them are on. 410 00:18:50.896 --> 00:18:55.033 Linus: And then maybe we can actually, we'll recreate that moment in the video 411 00:18:55.033 --> 00:18:57.870 and you'll be like uh yeah none of the computers are on, 412 00:18:57.870 --> 00:19:00.973 I'll be oh yeah okay, and then we can power them up or something like that. 413 00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:01.773 Kenton: Hahahaha. 414 00:19:01.907 --> 00:19:05.978 Linus: Linux, everyone's gonna kill me if I don't ask which distro. 415 00:19:06.945 --> 00:19:13.685 Kenton: I'm a Debian guy, just have been for forever; don't care to figure out anything else 416 00:19:15.554 --> 00:19:16.388 Kenton: I know it too well. 417 00:19:16.388 --> 00:19:19.691 Linus: That's fair enough, okay; and then I assume it's, 418 00:19:19.725 --> 00:19:22.227 I mean I would imagine it's probably relatively modest 419 00:19:22.261 --> 00:19:24.763 given it's like a workstation, but maybe not? 420 00:19:26.532 --> 00:19:29.001 Kenton: uh oh, my workstation? 421 00:19:29.034 --> 00:19:29.334 Linus: Yeah. 422 00:19:29.434 --> 00:19:33.238 Kenton: Uh, there's a 4080 Super in there. 423 00:19:33.238 --> 00:19:36.008 Linus: Of course there is, but not for you know, not for gaming though. 424 00:19:36.308 --> 00:19:40.445 Kenton: Well it's for the, um my massive monitor; 425 00:19:40.445 --> 00:19:48.587 I have the the Samsung... well Samsung G9 Neo blah blah blah blah blah blah, 57 inch 426 00:19:49.254 --> 00:19:53.692 that you can do- Its basically two 4k monitors glued together. 427 00:19:53.692 --> 00:19:55.427 Linus: Oh, that one, okay. Kenton: Yeah. 428 00:19:55.627 --> 00:19:56.461 Andy: The Arc? 429 00:19:57.129 --> 00:19:58.297 Linus: No, it's a different one. 430 00:19:58.397 --> 00:19:58.830 Andy: Oh. 431 00:20:00.465 --> 00:20:02.935 Linus: It might have "Odyssey" in the name somewhere, 432 00:20:03.068 --> 00:20:05.070 Linus: I can't remember exactly what it's called though. 433 00:20:05.370 --> 00:20:07.773 Kenton: There's so many parts of the name I can't remember them all; 434 00:20:08.140 --> 00:20:11.677 and then there ends up, there's like four components of the name, 435 00:20:11.710 --> 00:20:14.580 and then it turns out there's two versions of it, the smaller one and the larger one. 436 00:20:14.580 --> 00:20:19.451 It's like come on guys how many can you put that in one of the earlier components... 437 00:20:19.451 --> 00:20:25.357 Linus: And then in here, so that would be AC in from the central? 438 00:20:26.625 --> 00:20:30.362 Kenton: From the- Well there's a dedicated air conditioning unit just for this room. 439 00:20:32.097 --> 00:20:36.235 Kenton: Um, and this was the funny story I had in my FAQ. 440 00:20:36.301 --> 00:20:39.304 Kenton: So there's a contractor that was designing all the HVAC for the house, 441 00:20:39.371 --> 00:20:46.211 and he- I said well we need a dedicated AC in the server room, 442 00:20:46.245 --> 00:20:50.616 and he said yeah sure, and then he came up with the design and didn't have that in there; 443 00:20:50.616 --> 00:20:54.152 and I said hey where's the AC for the server room? 444 00:20:54.253 --> 00:20:57.155 And he said well how many machines do you have in there? 445 00:20:57.923 --> 00:21:02.694 And I said if they're all running at full blast playing some intense game 446 00:21:02.728 --> 00:21:05.497 they could be using 15 kilowatts of power. 447 00:21:05.597 --> 00:21:06.064 Linus: Yeah. 448 00:21:06.198 --> 00:21:09.067 Kenton: And he said that would be by far 449 00:21:09.067 --> 00:21:15.741 the largest server rack we've ever seen in a residential setting; and I said, yeah. 450 00:21:17.075 --> 00:21:18.010 Kenton: Hahahaha. 451 00:21:19.278 --> 00:21:23.582 Kenton: People will make fun of my wires, that's fine; yeah my wires are not organized. 452 00:21:23.582 --> 00:21:24.116 Linus: Nice. 453 00:21:24.249 --> 00:21:26.451 Linus: Yeah that's fine, I mean an effort was made. 454 00:21:26.451 --> 00:21:30.022 Kenton: Yeah, well the contractor put those trays in, which is great. 455 00:21:30.022 --> 00:21:30.322 Linus: Nice. 456 00:21:30.355 --> 00:21:31.857 Kenton: He's just like, I think you need these. 457 00:21:31.990 --> 00:21:37.896 Linus: So basically we take our hot side and it gets sucked in there. 458 00:21:37.896 --> 00:21:42.034 Linus: Okay, and then the cold side goes, blows right out over the front of the racks. 459 00:21:42.567 --> 00:21:46.171 Linus: Okay, and then there's a little door. 460 00:21:46.271 --> 00:21:49.541 Kenton: Yeah, it goes to the crawl space where you'll find this air conditioner, 461 00:21:49.541 --> 00:21:54.913 and a bunch of wiring and pull the wires through there, and to go to other parts of the house. 462 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:55.547 Linus: Cool. 463 00:21:56.548 --> 00:21:58.383 Kenton: And then of course we have the networking 464 00:21:58.383 --> 00:22:03.689 that everyone made fun of because didn't know what patch panels were. 465 00:22:04.089 --> 00:22:06.892 Linus: Oh, nice, okay. 466 00:22:06.892 --> 00:22:08.927 Kenton: And the contractor who does residential 467 00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:12.898 also apparently did not know what patch panels were, or maybe maybe he asked me and I forgot. 468 00:22:13.732 --> 00:22:17.069 Linus: You know what? If it fits it sits, 469 00:22:17.135 --> 00:22:23.275 and I bet that's why the quad runs didn't cost extra. 470 00:22:23.475 --> 00:22:24.176 Kenton: Hahaha. 471 00:22:24.176 --> 00:22:28.580 Linus: Well, seriously because the termination would have been so much more 472 00:22:28.580 --> 00:22:32.751 if they were going into a patch panel for all of them, like it's a pain in the butt. 473 00:22:33.852 --> 00:22:35.821 Whereas now they're just basically- 474 00:22:35.821 --> 00:22:39.257 Kenton: Well, he did have to terminate the, do the RJ45 termination to each one. 475 00:22:39.257 --> 00:22:40.826 Linus: Oh yeah, he would have had to do them on those ends anyway; well. 476 00:22:40.826 --> 00:22:42.094 Kenton: And he complained about it. 477 00:22:42.227 --> 00:22:43.528 Linus: Yeah, okay, nevermind. 478 00:22:46.264 --> 00:22:48.033 Linus: Nope, nevermind, it looked like; 479 00:22:48.033 --> 00:22:50.402 because it looked with the different just like kind of random cables 480 00:22:50.402 --> 00:22:53.972 it looked like they just ran pre-terminated cables but no, I guess not. 481 00:22:53.972 --> 00:22:56.608 Linus: Well, if he was really smart what he would have done 482 00:22:56.608 --> 00:22:58.810 is just bought pre-terminated cables then, 483 00:22:59.144 --> 00:23:03.482 since you know cable management isn't as much of a priority 484 00:23:03.482 --> 00:23:06.952 and then just gotten the wall jacks that just had that outlet in the back, 485 00:23:06.952 --> 00:23:08.487 that might have worked, is it-? 486 00:23:08.620 --> 00:23:10.355 Kenton: Have to get them exactly the right length though. 487 00:23:10.455 --> 00:23:12.257 Linus: I mean you could have just... 488 00:23:13.592 --> 00:23:14.793 Linus: Hahahahaha. 489 00:23:15.427 --> 00:23:16.194 Linus: He wouldn't have done that. 490 00:23:16.194 --> 00:23:19.197 Linus: Have you had good luck with those, have they been reliable? 491 00:23:19.798 --> 00:23:23.535 Kenton: The DisplayPort has worked great; the USB, 492 00:23:24.536 --> 00:23:29.374 I'm not sure if it's a problem with these cables itself or something else, 493 00:23:29.374 --> 00:23:34.780 but sometimes um it's like I have to unplug the USB and plug it back in back here 494 00:23:34.780 --> 00:23:36.114 to like, make it start working again. 495 00:23:38.417 --> 00:23:42.621 I also have really sh**** USB hubs on all the machines, 496 00:23:42.654 --> 00:23:44.823 so it might be their fault, I'm not sure. 497 00:23:46.658 --> 00:23:53.031 Linus: USB extension is a problem that has not been well solved at this point; 498 00:23:53.031 --> 00:23:57.269 well it has been well solved, but it's really expensive to do really good 499 00:23:57.369 --> 00:24:03.742 USB 1, 2, 3; all with one box costs about twelve hundred dollars per station 500 00:24:03.742 --> 00:24:05.577 to do like fiber optic extension. 501 00:24:05.811 --> 00:24:09.648 There's this company, they're actually based in Vancouver, called Icron 502 00:24:09.648 --> 00:24:14.686 and they use an FPGA solution to like properly 503 00:24:14.719 --> 00:24:20.192 carry all of it over a single fiber optic wire; because USB 2 and 3 504 00:24:20.192 --> 00:24:21.693 even though people think of them as- 505 00:24:21.693 --> 00:24:25.163 Well you know right? It's just like they're intercompatible right? 506 00:24:25.197 --> 00:24:26.865 Linus: No, no, they are different protocols; 507 00:24:26.865 --> 00:24:30.769 they are backwards compatible but they're different protocols. 508 00:24:30.936 --> 00:24:36.074 And so carrying, you'll see a lot of hubs that are USB 3 only, or USB 2 only; 509 00:24:36.208 --> 00:24:39.544 so they had to do a bunch of custom work in order to make that happen. 510 00:24:39.544 --> 00:24:43.515 Anyway the long and short of it is USB extension was never really- 511 00:24:43.648 --> 00:24:46.151 Extension was never really something that was considered 512 00:24:46.151 --> 00:24:48.320 in the early days of the USB specification; 513 00:24:48.520 --> 00:24:53.225 which is one of the reasons that like longer cables and hubs, 514 00:24:53.258 --> 00:24:56.561 like the whole thing is just so flaky when you try to extend it. 515 00:24:57.162 --> 00:24:59.764 And the further we go, I mean this is a, 516 00:25:00.432 --> 00:25:02.501 this is an organization that can't even figure out 517 00:25:02.501 --> 00:25:05.303 how to name their revisions in a way that is somewhat understandable; 518 00:25:05.337 --> 00:25:07.672 so it shouldn't come as a surprise that it's just kind of a mess. 519 00:25:07.672 --> 00:25:11.443 Kenton: I mean, it mostly works, the vast majority of the time. 520 00:25:11.476 --> 00:25:15.347 I think there's just one machine here, Bombman that always has trouble. 521 00:25:15.347 --> 00:25:16.681 Linus: Bombman... nice. 522 00:25:16.681 --> 00:25:18.550 Kenton: Yeah, they're all named after Megaman bosses. 523 00:25:18.950 --> 00:25:19.484 Linus: Oh... 524 00:25:19.484 --> 00:25:20.919 Kenton: You can see the labels on the front. 525 00:25:21.086 --> 00:25:24.923 Kenton: I would say, I wouldn't want to dissuade people from using these USB cables; 526 00:25:24.923 --> 00:25:26.825 because they do work the vast majority of the time. 527 00:25:26.858 --> 00:25:27.926 Linus: Yeah, yeah, no that's fine; 528 00:25:27.959 --> 00:25:30.529 I'm probably not going to get into the specifics of any of that. 529 00:25:30.762 --> 00:25:33.965 Linus: Did you- I think you said you built all the systems yourself, right? 530 00:25:34.099 --> 00:25:36.268 Kenton: Yeah, some friends of mine, 531 00:25:36.668 --> 00:25:39.671 same friends that I was LAN partying with when I was 14 years old 532 00:25:40.505 --> 00:25:47.045 flew down from Minneapolis and we built them all over the course of a a couple days. 533 00:25:47.112 --> 00:25:50.782 Kenton: I had originally wanted to try to like fit them into 2U cases, 534 00:25:50.782 --> 00:25:54.519 like as a challenge; eventually I gave up on that idea. 535 00:25:54.553 --> 00:25:56.321 Linus: Yeah, that was a good idea. 536 00:25:56.454 --> 00:25:57.255 Kenton: Hahahaha. 537 00:25:57.355 --> 00:26:03.395 Linus: I don't know if you've seen the 2U systems that we built, for my LAN room; 538 00:26:03.495 --> 00:26:06.531 and doing it was a nightmare I regret it. 539 00:26:06.698 --> 00:26:09.501 Kenton: Yeah, I- Actually the worst problem was just that 540 00:26:09.734 --> 00:26:12.871 you had to use these like server power supplies; 541 00:26:12.904 --> 00:26:16.775 Kenton: because none of the power supplies have the fan on the front anymore, 542 00:26:16.808 --> 00:26:17.242 Linus: Yes. 543 00:26:17.275 --> 00:26:19.077 Kenton: they all want to take it off the top and if you're in a 2U case 544 00:26:19.110 --> 00:26:20.845 and there's nothing you *unintelligible* away. 545 00:26:21.379 --> 00:26:26.384 Linus: As GPUs have continued to get bigger and wider and stuff, 546 00:26:26.451 --> 00:26:32.257 getting those to fit into a lot of the 2U like off the shelf chassis 547 00:26:32.257 --> 00:26:34.359 has just been not really feasible. 548 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:40.031 Kenton: We had a funny problem um in the palo alto house I had 3U chassis; 549 00:26:40.098 --> 00:26:42.500 so GPU was, you know, perpendicular. 550 00:26:42.667 --> 00:26:48.873 And it worked for the initial build, and then when I upgraded to uh 1060s 551 00:26:48.873 --> 00:26:55.013 Kenton: at one point, the power socket which had previously been on like 552 00:26:55.013 --> 00:26:55.313 Linus: Yep. 553 00:26:55.313 --> 00:26:57.582 Kenton: the end of the GPU, pointing forward was now pointing out; 554 00:26:57.916 --> 00:27:01.853 Kenton: and there wasn't space, so I actually had to like snip all the plastic off 555 00:27:01.886 --> 00:27:08.059 and like manually connect each wire, it took a long time. 556 00:27:08.860 --> 00:27:10.996 Linus: This isn't that uh 8K one is it? 557 00:27:11.162 --> 00:27:13.331 Kenton: That it is; it's a little bit broken, 558 00:27:13.331 --> 00:27:16.801 it has a column of pixels that doesn't work, but it is an 8k monitor. 559 00:27:16.935 --> 00:27:20.939 Kenton: I actually, I discovered when upgrading to 8k, that 8k was too much. 560 00:27:21.072 --> 00:27:21.640 Linus: Yeah. 561 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:27.145 Kenton: Like, every upgrade before that it was always great to have more pixels 562 00:27:27.145 --> 00:27:28.647 and then at 8k, too many pixels. 563 00:27:29.347 --> 00:27:30.215 Linus: Yeah, cool. 564 00:27:30.348 --> 00:27:34.386 Linus: It also just isn't a good monitor, which is part of the problem; 565 00:27:35.020 --> 00:27:39.891 the contrast is so low that it just isn't a very good monitor. 566 00:27:39.924 --> 00:27:45.030 I ended up with one too that I managed to liquidate for like $400 recently, 567 00:27:45.030 --> 00:27:48.166 and when you consider that it was like five grand or something when it came out 568 00:27:48.166 --> 00:27:51.436 it's not a great uh, not a great return on that investment. 569 00:27:51.569 --> 00:27:54.873 Linus: The only reason I ended up buying one was actually that 570 00:27:54.906 --> 00:28:00.679 I bought that uh OLED that Dell released, for a matter of about three weeks; 571 00:28:01.913 --> 00:28:04.949 back- And this must have been about six or seven years ago, 572 00:28:04.949 --> 00:28:07.152 I don't know if you remember this, Dell had an OLED, 573 00:28:07.185 --> 00:28:10.989 they were the first with an OLED monitor, and so I bought it 574 00:28:11.022 --> 00:28:14.092 and it came damaged, it was shipping damaged, 575 00:28:14.225 --> 00:28:16.928 and by the time I received it and realized it was shipping damaged 576 00:28:17.028 --> 00:28:20.198 and I contacted them to get a replacement, they had discontinued it; 577 00:28:20.265 --> 00:28:22.767 because it had like serious burn-in issues, 578 00:28:22.967 --> 00:28:27.005 and so they offered me this 8k monitor as a replacement, 579 00:28:27.038 --> 00:28:29.340 and I was like well no what I really want is the OLED one 580 00:28:29.340 --> 00:28:30.608 because I want to make a video about it. 581 00:28:30.642 --> 00:28:32.143 And it was a whole thing. 582 00:28:32.177 --> 00:28:35.013 Uh, 8K is actually too much; 583 00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:44.155 also it's a horrible monitor, with bad black levels and contrast, and uniformity. 584 00:28:46.591 --> 00:28:48.426 Also it's broken... 585 00:28:48.693 --> 00:28:50.628 Kenton and Jade: Hahahahahaha. 586 00:28:51.196 --> 00:28:54.332 Linus: Okay, cool, excellent; candy bowl. 587 00:28:54.399 --> 00:28:56.735 Kenton and Jade: Hahahahahahaha. 588 00:28:58.269 --> 00:29:01.272 Kenton: My son calls this his minecraft bed, uh but- 589 00:29:01.272 --> 00:29:03.808 Linus: Oh, that's actually super cute, okay. 590 00:29:03.942 --> 00:29:05.677 Kenton: But so, they have these lofts, 591 00:29:06.611 --> 00:29:07.212 Linus: Very cool. 592 00:29:07.378 --> 00:29:13.685 Kenton: Where they're supposed to sleep; um and uh the cat door comes into the loft. 593 00:29:13.852 --> 00:29:14.953 Linus: We have five. 594 00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:16.187 Jade: Cats? 595 00:29:16.387 --> 00:29:17.021 Linus: Cats, yeah. 596 00:29:17.021 --> 00:29:19.657 Kenton: I was raised by cats, I had six cats at one point. 597 00:29:20.658 --> 00:29:25.663 Linus: And you basically, especially my middle child, 598 00:29:25.830 --> 00:29:30.535 Linus: there is always a cat in her bed, always. 599 00:29:30.535 --> 00:29:31.903 Linus: So she's 10 now. 600 00:29:32.470 --> 00:29:35.974 Linus: So I'm sure once they get a little bit older, especially being up high; 601 00:29:35.974 --> 00:29:39.077 because cats love that so much they'll come hang with them a lot. 602 00:29:39.210 --> 00:29:39.978 Kenton: Mhmm. 603 00:29:40.111 --> 00:29:43.314 Linus: I wish we had like cat-housed more. 604 00:29:43.314 --> 00:29:45.917 Kenton: We have a conduit going to the server room here. 605 00:29:46.050 --> 00:29:46.851 Linus: Nice. 606 00:29:47.085 --> 00:29:51.055 Kenton: So, someday when they're old enough to have their own PCs and- 607 00:29:51.990 --> 00:29:55.593 Linus: What we found actually, and this is uh, this may be cool for you to know, 608 00:29:55.627 --> 00:30:00.165 is that the- Just the short out, just the jumper on the power switch 609 00:30:00.298 --> 00:30:04.269 doesn't seem to have a functional distance limit. 610 00:30:04.536 --> 00:30:05.103 Kenton: Mhmm. 611 00:30:05.203 --> 00:30:13.444 Linus: So we ran one that was as far as... man it must have been at least 50 feet 612 00:30:13.545 --> 00:30:16.114 or something like that, and it just worked as you'd expect. 613 00:30:16.247 --> 00:30:20.285 I wasn't sure like what voltage it ran at even, 614 00:30:20.285 --> 00:30:23.121 and how much drop there'd be or whatever; because it's just, 615 00:30:23.121 --> 00:30:24.455 it's just a momentary switch right? 616 00:30:24.556 --> 00:30:28.593 Linus: Um, but it turns out it actually works over a very long distance, 617 00:30:28.593 --> 00:30:29.928 which I was surprised to find. 618 00:30:30.028 --> 00:30:36.100 Linus: Has an intake for that zone... 619 00:30:36.134 --> 00:30:37.936 Kenton: If you bring it here, you can type more easily. 620 00:30:37.969 --> 00:30:38.369 Linus: Cute. 621 00:30:38.503 --> 00:30:41.539 Jade: Yeah, you can just go into the office and type on an actual- 622 00:30:41.539 --> 00:30:43.675 Linus: Oh, I guess I could do that. 623 00:30:44.475 --> 00:30:47.045 Linus: Oh that's right! I completely zoned out 624 00:30:47.045 --> 00:30:49.113 that we haven't even seen the office space yet. 625 00:30:49.113 --> 00:30:53.852 Linus: Yeah tell me, tell me more; tell me, tell me everything, pretend I know nothing. 626 00:30:53.852 --> 00:30:55.854 Kenton: Alright... uuuh. 627 00:30:57.789 --> 00:31:05.563 Kenton: So this is where we work obviously, all of these here open up. 628 00:31:06.297 --> 00:31:06.798 Linus: Woop. 629 00:31:06.931 --> 00:31:10.301 Linus: Where does that go down to? Is there, oh in floor power... 630 00:31:10.335 --> 00:31:14.072 Kenton: Well if you look back here actually, or let me um, 631 00:31:14.906 --> 00:31:17.008 let me lift up this one so you can see. 632 00:31:18.343 --> 00:31:19.577 Linus: Oh yeah. 633 00:31:19.577 --> 00:31:20.511 Kenton: There's a big ol' power strip in there. 634 00:31:20.511 --> 00:31:21.913 Linus: Kind of like a conference table. 635 00:31:22.714 --> 00:31:23.181 Kenton: Yeah. 636 00:31:23.715 --> 00:31:29.320 Kenton: So actually I, I designed this table 637 00:31:30.188 --> 00:31:33.958 and also the gaming stations I've retrieved just in, what used to be Google SketchUp, 638 00:31:33.992 --> 00:31:35.159 it's not Google anymore. 639 00:31:35.760 --> 00:31:41.799 Linus: I also have used SketchUp to do work that people more skilled than I 640 00:31:41.833 --> 00:31:44.969 would laugh at me for using SketchUp for; 641 00:31:45.003 --> 00:31:47.605 but you know what? I don't care it's simple and it works. 642 00:31:50.041 --> 00:31:51.976 Linus: I don't want to learn SolidWorks 643 00:31:52.110 --> 00:31:54.679 just so that I can quickly mock something up, it's not necessary. 644 00:31:54.679 --> 00:31:59.350 Kenton: I mean I just, I basically gave printouts of the design to the cabinet makers; 645 00:31:59.450 --> 00:32:03.421 you know just some cabinet maker, and it's like okay, 646 00:32:03.521 --> 00:32:06.457 did a couple of rounds of uh prototyping. 647 00:32:08.459 --> 00:32:10.028 Kenton: That's all Jade's books there. 648 00:32:10.228 --> 00:32:10.762 Linus: Cool. 649 00:32:10.929 --> 00:32:14.532 Kenton: Oh yeah, this was, so I worked at Google a long time ago. 650 00:32:14.666 --> 00:32:15.066 Linus: Yeah. 651 00:32:15.199 --> 00:32:22.440 Kenton: And one year, uh our whole department got these like military grade flashlights. Linus: That thing looks scary. 652 00:32:22.473 --> 00:32:23.675 Kenton: Yeah, you know it has a warning; 653 00:32:23.675 --> 00:32:24.275 Kid: Is it super bright? 654 00:32:24.309 --> 00:32:28.479 Kenton: "do not stare at exposed lamp in operation, it may be harmful to eyes". 655 00:32:28.479 --> 00:32:31.983 It is extremely bright, there is actually a jumper that you can change 656 00:32:31.983 --> 00:32:39.524 to make it even brighter which I did do; and yeah it's, it's quite something. 657 00:32:40.291 --> 00:32:41.960 I haven't actually used it in quite a long time. 658 00:32:43.528 --> 00:32:49.133 Kenton: Our third electrical panel we walked by, and this is just guest rooms. 659 00:32:49.634 --> 00:32:50.868 Linus: Oooo, wow that's nice. 660 00:32:50.969 --> 00:32:54.505 Kenton: So we do- People fly in for new year's LAN party and stay here 661 00:32:54.505 --> 00:32:58.476 and actually we end up having people staying in the hall rooms, 662 00:32:58.476 --> 00:33:02.580 on air mattresss in addition to these guest rooms, because enough people come. 663 00:33:04.949 --> 00:33:05.917 Linus: Okay, so- 664 00:33:06.551 --> 00:33:09.354 Kenton: There are actually conduits going to these rooms too, 665 00:33:09.354 --> 00:33:09.787 Linus: No way. 666 00:33:09.787 --> 00:33:11.255 Kenton: if for some reason we wanted to- 667 00:33:11.255 --> 00:33:14.892 Linus: More LAN rooms, that's hilarious. 668 00:33:15.360 --> 00:33:17.628 Linus: I mean that's the thing when you're- 669 00:33:17.662 --> 00:33:18.763 When you're building from the ground up, 670 00:33:18.763 --> 00:33:21.632 like it would have been really cool to build our place from the ground up; 671 00:33:21.666 --> 00:33:25.937 I'm sure I would have screwed stuff up, but there is stuff like that, 672 00:33:25.970 --> 00:33:29.874 like when I'm running conduit, I wish more builders ran conduit; 673 00:33:29.907 --> 00:33:33.378 because boy is it ever easy to do when you're at the studs 674 00:33:33.478 --> 00:33:36.881 and boy is it ever not easy to do once the studs are covered. 675 00:33:37.515 --> 00:33:41.085 Kenton: They, our contractor did complain a bunch about 676 00:33:42.153 --> 00:33:46.190 how hard it was to get all the conduits through, but yes. 677 00:33:46.758 --> 00:33:49.694 Kenton: A funny problem we almost had in palo alto is, 678 00:33:49.727 --> 00:33:53.831 so they were gonna they put in the conduits and they're gonna pour the slab; 679 00:33:55.433 --> 00:33:58.903 and it was delayed for a day for some reason, or delayed over the weekend, 680 00:33:58.903 --> 00:34:01.105 and then that- During the weekend I came and looked, 681 00:34:01.105 --> 00:34:04.142 and saw that the conduits they put in were three quarters of an inch, 682 00:34:04.842 --> 00:34:05.843 instead of three inch. 683 00:34:06.477 --> 00:34:09.180 and really lucky that we caught that. 684 00:34:10.982 --> 00:34:13.718 Linus: Oh that would have been terrible! 685 00:34:13.718 --> 00:34:15.386 Kenton: Yeah, yeah you couldn't get- 686 00:34:15.386 --> 00:34:16.354 Linus: Anything. 687 00:34:16.354 --> 00:34:17.522 Kenton: anything through that, yeah. 688 00:34:17.522 --> 00:34:18.890 Linus: You would- I mean you could have, 689 00:34:19.057 --> 00:34:22.326 you could have run bare wire and then terminate it at the other end; 690 00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.862 Linus: but like how would you even do that for something like display? 691 00:34:24.862 --> 00:34:28.900 Kenton: And that's what they're used to is like you know, bare power wires. Linus: Yeah. 692 00:34:28.933 --> 00:34:32.637 Kenton: So that's why, like you have to specify everything; 693 00:34:33.938 --> 00:34:36.808 because they don't, they don't have intuition for what you're doing. 694 00:34:36.941 --> 00:34:38.142 Linus: No. 695 00:34:38.176 --> 00:34:41.212 Linus: This is hilarious, so this is for a well-mounted tv. 696 00:34:41.579 --> 00:34:42.113 Kenton: Yeah. 697 00:34:42.246 --> 00:34:46.050 Linus: But what about second Cat6a, and I guess you like Cat6a everywhere? 698 00:34:46.851 --> 00:34:47.218 Kenton: Yeah. 699 00:34:47.819 --> 00:34:48.219 Linus: Okay. 700 00:34:48.753 --> 00:34:50.888 Andy: We're currently back at the LAN house, 701 00:34:51.022 --> 00:34:57.962 but before we do the LAN house video we have to shoot a review of the 9070; 702 00:34:58.129 --> 00:35:02.233 so we're setting up in the kitchen and this is my camera, 703 00:35:02.333 --> 00:35:05.103 and Linus is gonna be sitting over on that chair. 704 00:35:05.803 --> 00:35:08.639 Andy: Everything ready, Linus is here, camera's ready; 705 00:35:08.673 --> 00:35:10.274 Andy: we're just thinking about the intro. 706 00:35:10.575 --> 00:35:14.312 Linus: Yeah, it's supposed to be like an awards show but like, 707 00:35:15.947 --> 00:35:21.786 I'm sitting in the kitchen, um... it does say I'm remoting and... "AMD is fine" 708 00:35:21.819 --> 00:35:28.059 but we also like get right into the thing before the actual envelope opening. 709 00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.597 I feel like I, we were in kind of a hurry when we reviewed this script and 710 00:35:32.630 --> 00:35:38.069 I might have made some changes to it that it helped with flow and information density, 711 00:35:38.069 --> 00:35:40.705 but didn't really make the award show thing work as well. 712 00:35:41.172 --> 00:35:41.772 Andy: Mhmm. 713 00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:43.641 Linus: Hmm... well- 714 00:35:43.641 --> 00:35:51.816 Linus: This is for least crap G- Oh... oh shoot I folded this wrong. 715 00:35:54.018 --> 00:35:54.852 Andy: Minor detail. 716 00:35:55.486 --> 00:35:56.254 Linus: Yeah, minor de- 717 00:35:56.254 --> 00:35:59.757 Well no it matters because there's no way for me to unfold it in a way 718 00:35:59.757 --> 00:36:02.560 that would have wouldn't have shown that there's nothing written on it. 719 00:36:03.394 --> 00:36:05.096 Andy: Detail we do for videos. 720 00:36:05.196 --> 00:36:10.334 Linus: This is for least crap GPU of 2025, and the award goes to... 721 00:36:10.835 --> 00:36:11.769 am I being too quiet? 722 00:36:12.537 --> 00:36:14.639 Andy: I think you're okay, yeah, yeah. 723 00:36:15.106 --> 00:36:19.110 Andy: Like if you get louder and then there's gonna be more echo so- 724 00:36:19.110 --> 00:36:19.644 Linus: Okay. 725 00:36:19.644 --> 00:36:20.044 Andy: Yeah. 726 00:36:20.778 --> 00:36:24.115 Linus: This is for least crap GPU of 2025! 727 00:36:24.148 --> 00:36:29.921 And the award goes to AMD for the Radeon 9070 XT! 728 00:36:30.521 --> 00:36:34.725 And it's not like you have reputational... did you guys learn- 729 00:36:34.926 --> 00:36:37.795 Did you guys learn nothing from the terrible verse- 730 00:36:38.296 --> 00:36:43.267 Linus: Hi kitty! Hi! Oh my goodness you are sweet, 731 00:36:43.367 --> 00:36:47.972 you come to visit me, that's so nice! Do you like head scratches? 732 00:36:48.873 --> 00:36:52.910 Kind of looks like it, what about chin rubs? Are you a chin rubs kind of cat? 733 00:36:53.277 --> 00:36:53.911 Linus: Yes! 734 00:36:55.546 --> 00:36:58.282 Linus: So cute, he's so cute! 735 00:37:01.886 --> 00:37:05.656 Andy: Look at this guy, look at this guy just chilling. 736 00:37:07.592 --> 00:37:09.260 Andy: Alright, so the shoot is done. 737 00:37:09.827 --> 00:37:15.266 Linus: This place is crazy; so for most of the shoot he had the place empty 738 00:37:15.299 --> 00:37:18.369 so we could get nice clean view on everything, now... 739 00:37:21.939 --> 00:37:23.507 It's freaking wild in here man, 740 00:37:23.507 --> 00:37:25.610 they got the look, they got the whole setup going. 741 00:37:26.811 --> 00:37:29.947 Linus: It's crazy, this is awesome! There's a bunch of people upstairs too. 742 00:37:29.947 --> 00:37:31.115 Kenton: Oh watch out, watch out here. 743 00:37:31.182 --> 00:37:32.149 Andy: It's a real party. 744 00:37:32.149 --> 00:37:36.053 Linus: We're getting set up for my 1v1 DDR challenge here, oh! 745 00:37:38.956 --> 00:37:40.224 Linus: Sorry our camera was in the way. 746 00:37:40.691 --> 00:37:43.561 Linus: So I'm about to get schooled super hard; 747 00:37:43.661 --> 00:37:46.964 because I've played DDR like maybe twice? 748 00:37:47.365 --> 00:37:50.201 I only remember once so I'm saying twice to hedge. 749 00:37:52.203 --> 00:37:53.371 Kenton: Do you want me to play first? 750 00:37:53.471 --> 00:37:54.538 Linus: Oh yeah, yeah, you go first. 751 00:37:54.672 --> 00:37:55.172 Kenton: Okay. 752 00:37:56.407 --> 00:37:58.476 Kenton: Watch out, don't step on those. 753 00:37:58.476 --> 00:37:59.076 Andy: Hahahahaha. 754 00:37:59.176 --> 00:38:02.179 Linus: I'm graceful like that, you're gonna see when I play the game. 755 00:38:02.313 --> 00:38:05.182 Linus: Kenton says his skills might be held back a little bit 756 00:38:05.182 --> 00:38:06.951 by the fact that he doesn't use the bar, 757 00:38:07.051 --> 00:38:09.854 you know or well behind you I guess is where people go; 758 00:38:09.887 --> 00:38:12.523 but, says he's played for a few years. 759 00:38:13.257 --> 00:38:15.860 Linus: Oh we had a false start; uh-oh, uh-oh. 760 00:38:17.762 --> 00:38:18.562 Kenton: Camera nerves. 761 00:38:18.562 --> 00:38:21.732 Linus: That's fine, that's the uh... that's the benefit of movie magic, 762 00:38:21.832 --> 00:38:22.833 we'll just cut that out. 763 00:38:27.938 --> 00:38:29.740 Linus: Okay, get my feet Andy as well. 764 00:38:30.374 --> 00:38:31.142 Linus: This is just b-roll... 765 00:38:31.175 --> 00:38:32.143 Andy: Already doing it. 766 00:38:36.747 --> 00:38:38.616 Linus: I feel like I'm playing baby's DDR. 767 00:38:41.752 --> 00:38:44.288 Linus: Please don't judge me, I never claimed to be good at this game; 768 00:38:44.955 --> 00:38:48.793 and I mean look he was too afraid to pull out his lighthouses, 769 00:38:48.893 --> 00:38:53.230 and play Beatsaber with me so... 770 00:38:53.230 --> 00:38:57.001 I'm just saying I was clearly, I was clearly didn't have the home field advantage here. 771 00:38:58.202 --> 00:38:59.637 Linus: Hahaha! The look. 772 00:39:01.906 --> 00:39:05.910 Andy: Okay, we're officially done shooting and they're currently gaming right now. 773 00:39:05.910 --> 00:39:08.346 Andy: So thanks for watching Floatplane. 774 00:39:08.379 --> 00:39:11.882 Andy: See you guys next time, byeee! We're gonna go game.