WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:08.360 Dude, check this out. ASRock has a 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:12.320 Radeon 7900 XTX that is completely 00:00:08.360 --> 00:00:15.759 fanless. This is going to be great for 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:18.160 about 30 seconds. Then it starts to 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:22.560 thermal throttle dramatically. Are you sure you don't want something 00:00:19.520 --> 00:00:25.920 with a fan on? No, no, no, no. See, this 00:00:22.560 --> 00:00:28.400 this was part of the plan. I have always 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:33.320 wanted to take one of these server oriented desktop cards with the no fans 00:00:31.119 --> 00:00:38.640 on them and hook it up to an air conditioner. Get it? AC PC. How in the 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:42.800 hell is this going to work? I don't know. You're smart. You'll figure it 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:45.840 out. Gosh, look at the time. I've got a meeting to get our way to. Oh, and uh 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:51.600 one more thing. While you're at it, can you remove all the other fans from the system? I want it completely silent. Not 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:54.879 so fast. If you've always wanted to try this, then you're helping out. First, 00:00:53.360 --> 00:00:59.920 we're going to take a closer look at the AC 516S portable smart air conditioner 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:05.760 from our sponsor for this video, Drio. It's a 14,000 BTU model, which is 00:01:02.559 --> 00:01:08.320 designed to cool up to 450 ft. So, it 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:12.159 should be plenty for a couple square ft of computer with capacity to spare, 00:01:10.479 --> 00:01:17.759 meaning that when we're done, we will have built the first ever gaming PC that 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:21.680 actively cools your room. Well, this is nice and flat. So, I think the easiest 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:25.280 way to get the air to the PC is going to be just some kind of shroud and a pipe. 00:01:23.759 --> 00:01:28.640 Yeah, that's great. Why don't we mock it up with this foam board? I mean, I had 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:34.560 something a little prettier in mind, but Well, we got to make sure it works first, right? Okay. Oh, did someone 00:01:31.600 --> 00:01:37.200 already do the work for me? I did. Wow. I thought you were going to make me do 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:40.640 the work today. Well, you do some of the work. Okay. Remember, kids, always cut 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:46.399 toward yourself. That way, you can see what you're doing. You can't get hit by a train if you see it coming. 00:01:44.720 --> 00:01:52.240 Don't worry, my balls already don't work anyway. Okay, 00:01:48.880 --> 00:01:54.640 that's not bad. Okay. Okay. Well, she's 00:01:52.240 --> 00:01:58.079 not completely airtight, but she also doesn't need to be. And this should be 00:01:56.320 --> 00:02:05.040 good enough for us to get a quick test. Want to see if air is going to move, right? Hey, not bad. Now, this could be 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:09.119 a little restrictive. In a perfect world, we might want to step down the 00:02:06.479 --> 00:02:13.599 exhaust to a bigger circle, then step it down to our smaller one. But again, this 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:18.239 is just proof of concept. We want to know if it's kind of going to work. All right. How's that feel? Glorious. There 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:21.680 you go. Is that better? Oh, that's beautiful. Where are you exhausting this 00:02:20.160 --> 00:02:30.120 to? I mean, normally it would be a window. The window right there. Yeah, but that window doesn't open. Why not? 00:02:25.640 --> 00:02:34.879 Um Oh, yeah. That's how they work. Oh 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:36.480 my. Oh, not ideal. Um, okay. You're not 00:02:34.879 --> 00:02:41.680 really supposed to run a compressor sideways and then It was very brief. 00:02:38.959 --> 00:02:45.440 That was not the Oh my god. Did this seriously just like totally survive? 00:02:43.760 --> 00:02:51.440 It's our best design ever, man. Let me tell you. Okay. So, what I'm thinking 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:53.120 Yeah. Go into the front here with like 00:02:51.440 --> 00:02:57.519 kind of a manifold and then we can have shrouds on the things. Oh, shrouds. 00:02:55.200 --> 00:03:01.120 Okay. Like duct mod kind of idea. Sure. So, we have one over the CPU. Yeah. Cuz 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:06.319 you don't like this fan apparently. Well, I kind of think we should start with the CPU fan being the CPU fan cuz 00:03:04.959 --> 00:03:11.519 this really doesn't feel like much. I pulled it out. So, you know. So, we're putting this on the front. Let's do this 00:03:09.040 --> 00:03:14.879 for now. See if it works. Oh my god. Fired up. We just have to prove that it 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:19.120 works and then we can make something good. Have we done anything to make them 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:24.800 believe that we will make something good? I mean, we've done a lot of videos. They must believe something. 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:29.599 Yeah, there's been some good ones. Did it turn on? Yeah. Somehow everything 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:32.799 still works. It's impressive how quiet the compressor is. Hey, the fans too 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:38.959 actually are pretty silent. I'm surprised even after dropping it. They claim it runs at 46 dB, which is pretty 00:03:37.040 --> 00:03:43.360 reasonable for a unit of this capacity. Now, I noticed that the compressor is 00:03:40.720 --> 00:03:46.879 cycling pretty often. That's on purpose. Yeah, that makes sense for room air 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:51.680 conditioning because you got your thermal sensor going into the unit and it's going, "Okay, do is our temperature 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:54.720 good enough?" It's not great for what we're doing where we might want 100% 00:03:53.440 --> 00:04:00.560 output all the time. We'll have to figure that out. Wow, our CPU is at 16° 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:03.760 and our GPU is at 33. Nice. Neither of them are doing anything yet, though. So, 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:07.200 give us time. Let us cook. And the CPU is up to 32 immediately. Still cold 00:04:05.519 --> 00:04:13.280 exhaust. You know what's the craziest part of this is that the cost of buying 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:16.959 a window AC unit actually not that far off like getting a custom water block 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:22.240 system. Like should we just be ducting chilled air into our systems? Maybe. Not 00:04:19.320 --> 00:04:26.160 necessarily. Spoiler. Condensation can be a major issue when you are plumbing 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:28.960 cold air directly into a warm environment, but we'll get to that 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:33.840 later. So, we're back to running smooth again. For how long? I don't know. That 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:39.040 coil wine though is Wow. Okay. GPU is getting pretty warm. It's only at around 00:04:35.840 --> 00:04:41.199 70° still. Okay. The CPU is sitting at 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:47.040 27 though, which is perfectly reasonable for a gaming load. Hold on. It just 00:04:42.880 --> 00:04:51.680 dropped to 2050, 2020, 2000. Oh, no. 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:53.199 1990. What did I do? Good year. 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:57.520 So, it's not perfect, but we weren't expecting it to be. What we have found, 00:04:55.120 --> 00:05:01.600 though, is that it's not dropping as low or as fast as when we were running 00:04:59.840 --> 00:05:05.199 without the duct. I want to see what we're going to land at. We're at 100 00:05:03.280 --> 00:05:10.720 degrees on the GPU, which is obviously not ideal, but we're at 1500 MHz. So, 00:05:08.880 --> 00:05:16.560 while we're at the same temperature, we are running at 4x 5x the clock speed. 00:05:14.479 --> 00:05:20.680 Yeah, that's a pretty big deal. We're settling in around 1400. And you can 00:05:18.479 --> 00:05:24.320 actually see a difference in the smoothness with the cool ducted air 00:05:22.880 --> 00:05:27.520 heading toward it. And that's not even blowing right through the heat sink yet. 00:05:25.919 --> 00:05:30.639 I think this is pretty promising. Let's put some more work into it. Now we're 00:05:29.039 --> 00:05:37.520 going to switch over to the other AC unit that we did bad things to. Okay. 00:05:34.039 --> 00:05:39.520 Ah, dots for 3D scanning. Exactly. We 3D 00:05:37.520 --> 00:05:43.039 scanned the surface here. Wicked smart. And that's to get a better seal against 00:05:40.960 --> 00:05:47.360 it, I assume. Exactly. Okay. Let's have a look. We also made a little tweak to 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:51.039 this one. We took the thermister, which usually lives inside the evaporator. If 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:54.400 that gets too cold, it turns off the compressor, but we don't want that. No, 00:05:52.960 --> 00:05:59.360 we want it to just keep running. So, we just kind of stuck it out of the way and 00:05:56.479 --> 00:06:02.000 it'll just run forever now. Okay. So, we might get some condensation on the back, 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:05.520 but we can deal with that later. Yeah. Normally, this is like a condensation 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:09.319 free unit, right? Yeah. They capture the liquid internally and recycle it and 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:14.919 evaporate it. Ooh, that's fancy. Don't eat that. I 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:19.039 wasn't going to eat it. Is there a reason we wanted it 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:23.280 pointing down? Uh, because of the way the baffles work in there. They're kind 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:27.120 of aiming this way. Got it. Makes sense. The main issue with our mockup though 00:06:24.880 --> 00:06:32.560 was not getting the cold air off of the AC unit. It was getting that cold air 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:36.720 plumbed up to our components. So that is 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:39.680 where these shrouds come in. Uh so this 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:44.319 goes on the outside. Yes. Air goes in. Okay. Air comes out of them and we'll 00:06:41.840 --> 00:06:47.840 get into the components through those. It's funny cuz I've used air 00:06:45.520 --> 00:06:52.080 conditioners to cool PCs lots of times. It's just always been to chill coolant 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:57.280 that I then pump through a water cooling system. I've never really just chilled 00:06:54.800 --> 00:07:01.680 an air cooled computer. Well, I shouldn't say never. Like, I took that 00:06:59.039 --> 00:07:07.039 one outside to the NCX parking lot 17 years ago or whatever. But see, how 00:07:03.360 --> 00:07:07.039 great is that low back force? 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:12.960 Huh? What? It's a good product. We just can't stop you from shilling, can we? 00:07:11.520 --> 00:07:16.800 It's not shilling if it's a good product that you believe in. What the heck 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:20.639 happened to this? Okay, so we thought that this little guy here Yeah. was the 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:24.960 temperature sensor, right? That makes sense. So, we were blowing a hot air gun 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:29.120 at it to try to make the thing run constantly, right? Turns out that's the 00:07:27.039 --> 00:07:34.800 humidity sensor, right? And also, that's kind of melty, right? Wo, that's 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:39.199 awesome. We're going to put that cold air right down the fins. That' be 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:44.800 perfect. I am a little concerned that the fin density on the GPU is a little 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:47.840 bit higher than on the CPU, so there might be more back pressure and 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:52.800 therefore we might get Oh my god, it's still really hot. We might get less flow 00:07:50.479 --> 00:07:56.240 through the GPU, but we're going to have to see how it goes. We would never 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:59.680 recommend putting this much strain on a 12vt high power connector. What could 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:04.800 possibly go wrong with these connectors, though? Yeah, maybe just wrap it. Yeah, 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:09.199 there we go. If you have an AC in your room anyway, what is a good reason not 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:13.199 to do this? I mean, this thing is what, 14,000 BTUs? Yeah, that's what 4,000 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:18.000 watts, something like that. Yeah, something like that. So, we can we can do way more cooling than we're going to 00:08:16.080 --> 00:08:21.919 put out here, which means if our components get too cold and then warm up 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:26.319 in the warm air and water can form on them and then everything's bad. But it's 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:32.159 possible, and we haven't tried this yet, it's possible that the system will work 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:36.000 even when the AC is not running. True. So, we could just have like potentially 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:39.599 you could configure a system so that you have just normal operation and it just 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:44.000 works off of your room's temperature like any other air conditioner would. 00:08:41.760 --> 00:08:47.600 But you could have like like turbo mode and run the AC continuously if you want 00:08:45.839 --> 00:08:51.600 to like, you know, I don't know, overclock. Oh, dude, I can smell the 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:55.200 flawless victory from here. We could use an insulated hose here to try to keep a 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:59.839 little bit more of the cool air in, but I think this is going to work pretty well as it is. Yeah, I think we're going 00:08:57.839 --> 00:09:05.120 to be fine. And when we consider that the area we're trying to cool ultimately 00:09:02.640 --> 00:09:09.360 is the room, we don't really care if we have any losses of coolness into the 00:09:07.920 --> 00:09:15.200 room around us anyway. As long as there's enough going to the PC, we're 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:17.519 fine. Yeah, there she goes. Not going to 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:22.480 lie, I'm still not feeling much out of that GPU. Dude, we may need to put some 00:09:20.640 --> 00:09:25.560 kind of baffle or something in to make sure that we're not sending all of the 00:09:24.160 --> 00:09:30.000 air flow to the CPU. What Jordan's trying to demonstrate 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:33.279 is that obviously if you were to set something like this up at home, which 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:37.120 we're not necessarily recommending, you would want to have the AC unit itself 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:40.240 farther away so that you get a noise benefit. And that's where something like 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:43.839 an insulated duct would come in to make sure that it's still running at optimal 00:09:41.680 --> 00:09:49.279 efficiency while giving you that sweet, sweet silence. Of course, none of that's 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:56.880 going to be very useful if it doesn't work. Oh no, Jordan. Yeah, buddy. Our 00:09:53.519 --> 00:10:00.640 CPU is at 17°. That seems a little cool. 00:09:56.880 --> 00:10:02.560 But our GPU is at 90. Okay, I think we 00:10:00.640 --> 00:10:08.399 need to put more baffel in. Yeah, the CPU needs like nothing. Interesting. 00:10:06.160 --> 00:10:12.080 Oh, this is so nice. Sorry, computer. I need this more than you right now. Now, 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:17.600 you might have noticed something. We have the hot side blowing at the 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:20.399 evaporator. That is to maybe hopefully 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:23.360 help keep ice from forming on it. Yeah, cuz we overrode the whole no 00:10:21.920 --> 00:10:28.320 condensation thing. Remember that? I don't know if it's going to work or not, but it's here. Oh, dude, we're down to 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:35.920 82. Oh, dude, I'm starting to get excited now. Okay, now this is getting 00:10:31.079 --> 00:10:38.640 cool. 80. We're at 80 now. 76. Dude, 00:10:35.920 --> 00:10:43.600 every single tiny gap that I plug, we are getting extra performance. Dude, she 00:10:40.959 --> 00:10:48.079 works awesome. And what's really cool is we're still throwing all this cold air 00:10:45.760 --> 00:10:52.079 out into our room. The air coming off the GPU is actually pretty toasty. 00:10:50.560 --> 00:10:57.120 Little warm. I think we would need, like you said, to tweak the baffle system a 00:10:54.160 --> 00:11:02.399 little bit or create a less turbulent path for the air into the GPU to try to 00:10:59.920 --> 00:11:05.600 focus it down there or even use a GPU that doesn't have such a tiny little 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:09.040 heat sink on it. But overall, we're still getting cold air off of the back 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:12.720 of the system. Yeah. Everything that's coming through the CPU is like freaking 00:11:10.800 --> 00:11:17.519 cold. That's great. Yeah. So, we're cooling our room and our PC and we have 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:21.040 no fans in this thing. Well, power supply. Okay. Power supply fan. Somebody 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:25.680 stole somebody stole the only good power supply with fanless. Stupid question. 00:11:23.519 --> 00:11:30.079 Yeah. Turn the computer this way. Yes. Make this go straight. I was about to We 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:34.399 were on the same wavelength, Jordan. Same wavelength. Let's see if we can 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:39.120 reduce our losses here a little bit. 76 didn't really make a difference. What 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:42.800 about moving it up? Let's get our path 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:44.800 as direct as possible here. Okay. I can 00:11:42.800 --> 00:11:49.600 No, I can feel more air flow off the GPU for sure. There's a hand in my way. Oh, 00:11:46.640 --> 00:11:54.480 sorry. Yep. It's still hot. But it's a lot more. We're down to 74. And 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:58.240 remember, we settled in around 76. So, let's see if we get a little bit more 00:11:55.760 --> 00:12:01.760 out of it here. This is getting a little damp now. Double wall. So, you'd 00:12:00.079 --> 00:12:05.839 probably want to insulate the whole shebang. Actually, this especially, 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:09.920 yeah, where you're going to get like condensation dripping off this in the 00:12:07.760 --> 00:12:12.959 longer term. 71. That's the lowest temp we've seen so far, though. So, that's an 00:12:11.680 --> 00:12:17.279 interesting thought. So you'd want insulated lines and then you'd probably 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:20.800 want like an accelerator fan at a midpoint just in order to increase the 00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:24.079 pressure cuz this is not designed for high static pressure. No, not at all. 00:12:22.560 --> 00:12:27.600 This is designed to just throw cold air out into the room. Blast of fuel in the 00:12:25.680 --> 00:12:31.120 room. Yeah. So in order to overcome the losses from the tubing and from the 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:34.959 fins, you'd probably want to add like an accelerator fan that's somewhat balanced 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:41.440 with the output of this. But there's a ton of potential. Final temperature, a 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:43.680 nice 69° under load in Valheim. And all 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:47.600 it cost us was the risk of condensation forming, which is going to happen 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:51.600 anytime you have a cold surface and warm air. So, if we were to deploy something 00:12:49.839 --> 00:12:56.240 like this longer term, we would want to put some kind of insulation on 00:12:53.519 --> 00:13:00.480 everything from our ducting to any 3D printed components and especially on 00:12:58.560 --> 00:13:06.480 anywhere inside the system where cold air is going to be. But with that said, 00:13:03.920 --> 00:13:10.800 I don't think this is actually that wild of a concept for someone to do at home 00:13:08.880 --> 00:13:16.480 if you're going to have the AC. Anyway, look at these CPU temps. It's sitting at 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:19.480 anywhere from 11 to 14° in games. And 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:22.639 this is what What do we have in here? A 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:24.480 12700K. That is flipping awesome. You 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:28.399 don't have to use a Drio AC for this kind of shenanigans. In fact, I'm sure 00:13:26.800 --> 00:13:32.000 they'd probably prefer if you don't. You just use it to clean your room. But hey, 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:37.920 massive shout out to them for sponsoring this video and letting us uh gently 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:41.680 abuse their machines, maybe. Yeah, not so gently. They also sent over this room 00:13:39.920 --> 00:13:45.040 fan, which actually I was kind of impressed by. It's super quiet, and I 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:48.880 like the way that it can oscillate in all kinds of different directions. We're 00:13:46.800 --> 00:13:52.560 going to have it and the AC unit linked in the video description, as well as a 00:13:50.959 --> 00:13:56.000 limited time discount, so you can find all the details down there. If you guys 00:13:54.560 --> 00:14:00.079 enjoyed this video, oh, why don't you check out the playlist? 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