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okay and we're back and hopefully the audio is fine it sounds fine to me it's

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fine for some people yeah apparently it was fine to some people so I suspect it

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was more of a twitch issue than anything else but since we're restarting the show

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we have to do a very brief thing here so we're going to cover the Intel x99 chipset in their eight core brand new

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billion is dollars all right uh Microsoft is cracking down on fake apps

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in the Windows store Windows 9 will be free or quite cheap and boom here's the

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intro no I haven't actually watched this

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really yeah like not in a long time nicer than I thought it was yeah it's

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really good except you need to make an Asian

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so also powering the show this week is

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okay I got this i got this i got this under control this is what happens when

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I don't sleep and the entire week is a complete disaster for me so this week

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and they are going to be doing a great job of bringing you guys some great content from pack so one thing to keep

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uh all right twitch chat I'm sorry we're done with the technical

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difficulties for now all right so our first news topic this week and this is

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this was po this was removed from the Forum since the original post by

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Marcus UK so the article here is from

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Gamespot and Amazon acquires Twitch in A1 billion deal see Gamespot agrees with

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me $1 billion now this flies in the face of

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the original rumors that YouTube was going to acquire twitch and we were

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actually talking about this in the car on the way back from the office the

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other day and I think the Amazon

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acquisition makes sense but I think you were saying that YouTube might have been

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a more might have been a more sensible option depending on Whose perspective

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we're talking about so I think it's better that Amazon bot

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twitch just because you don't have that Consolidated of uh with regard to videoing I was just

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playing Devil's Advocate because Google

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has acquired a ton of things and they haven't really ruined them except for

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like ways and what else I think there are people

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who would argue that they've kind of ruined YouTube compared to the sort of

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the Indie vibe that YouTube had going on at the beginning but honestly I think it

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was going to go that direction eventually anyway because they were

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going to have to figure out a monetization model it's just that Google

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figured that out and YouTube might have come to a very similar conclusion on

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their own if they had stayed independent except that they might not have been

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able to ever build the kind of infrastructure to support you know HD

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and now 4K that Google has managed to build to back it up IIT s you trying to

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say that YouTube was ruined or wasn't I'm trying to say some people say it is

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I personally don't think so yeah they're crazy yeah I mean I think that YouTube

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has been great for Content creators and it's been pretty darn good with some

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obvious hiccups like the recent go plus integration and that's not being

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consumers yeah and the fact that we can't upload anything right now but by

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and large it's better than it used to be I mean I used to have issues uploading

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files all the time now it's like weird

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when it happens apparently I look awkward you look awkward I think we both

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look awkward because the camera is like super awkward and we far away and stuff

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but so what would you have seen happening then if Google acquired twitch

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instead of Amazon I think it would be largely the

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same just because I don't think either of them want to ruin a good thing

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because twitch is as big big as it is

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just because that's what they do they've only been around three years Jus in TV

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was longer that's true but the whole

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game streaming thing has only been around for three years on

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twitch.tv or twitch I guess is their it's their current brand which is more

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reason not to tamper with anything just

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because who else really understands game streaming besides switch and isubu TV

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who else now that's it that's pretty much it so they can't really bring in

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their own experience just because they don't have that experience so I think by

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and large either company would would have left twitch alone

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hard to say because even though twitch has so much more experience with live

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game streaming I think that if if Google

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acquired them and this was this was this was an opinion that I saw kind of echoed

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in a number of different places I think had Google acquired twitch they would

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have been the little brother of YouTube and the YouTube Team could claim to have

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a lot of experience with game streamers because typically archived content even

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from Big Game streamers will do better on YouTube over the long term than it

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does on Twitch in fact twitch has even revised their archiving policies to

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delete to well to try to delete most of people's old footage unless they're

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saving it as a highlight reel cuz no one's really watching it it's just

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taking up space I watch it okay you watch it but but would it kill you to go

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on their YouTube channel to watch

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it okay well from my perspective I watch

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tournaments uh when they're not in the right time zone and or like if I just

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miss it so I'll usually go to that twitch broadcast channel and watch the

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the vods on there whereas I would have to like YouTube and

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search some random channel to find

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right you know this is the this is an interesting take on this I've got a few

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people in the twitch chat suggesting that Amazon was actually buying the

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streaming technology that twitch has been using I don't know if I buy that I

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mean Amazon's already got their on demand video it's not like they don't

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have the backbone to stream video um I I

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really don't think that that's it I mean I think that there's probably a trick or

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two that twitch has developed over the last few years here that is that is

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helping them to do what they're doing but having actually chatted with someone

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pretty high up at twitch around this time last year I mean they were they

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were br forcing a lot of it at least a year ago and there isn't really a way

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without building data centers all over

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the place to make streaming much less

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demanding which happens to be exactly what Amazon has and that's why that's a

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marriage made in heaven and mind you it's much the in much the same way that

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Google and twitch would have been as well because Google also has data

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centers all over the place that would have been able to reduce the latency

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that we all experience with twitch as well as potentially increase the

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quity and reliability of the streams so

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I I totally disagree that Amazon bought

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them for the technology I don't think their technology is anything special

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compared to what Amazon

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does someone says edel stop staring at lonus he can't

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resist oh okay fine I'll I'll stare at

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that I'm trying to listen to you and that's the best way to listen you're

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trying to listen to me that's your first mistake yeah I'm just going to to zoom this in a little

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bit there we go hopefully that's a wow

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because the camera's crooked I look super tall which is not the cas at all

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I'm actually taller than lonus someone says now you have a baby

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you look all grown up I actually have two two kids now and uh I probably look

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grown up because I look old because I am

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super super tired this week it has been a crazy week uh should we talk about it

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a little bit your baby no not my baby

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the the week we've had what would you know about my baby uh

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no name yeah actually we have named her

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now really yes I basically just gave up

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and yvon went with it no I I'm not going to I don't reveal the kids names on uh I

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don't reveal the kids names on the stream or anything it's wona yeah it's

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not it's not wona but uh yeah been we

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have named the baby so we came in on

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Monday morning and since then it's been

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pretty much a blur we have uh okay so

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our main office room all the editing um I painted it while you guys were doing

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arts and crafts wait Monday really yeah

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yeah we got started Monday I think wait what no it's it was supposed to be 3

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days and today was the fourth wasn't it

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oh yeah you're right what did we do

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Monday well Brandon wasn't back

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yet whoa what did we this week feels like

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it's been two weeks have we been at this for five days no no no no no I don't

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think so okay anyway the point is let's say

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Tuesday let's assume it was Tuesday Tuesday Morning um we tore apart the

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office office so all the workstation PCS all the editing machines we tore them

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out of the office and Scattered them throughout the building because there

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was no space for anything we piled all the desks in the middle and Nick and I

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painted the room then um so what were

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you doing on the first day I don't remember like

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I what which was the first day was it Monday or Tuesday Tuesday let's say it

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was Tuesday okay build any PCS on the

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first day I thought on the first

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day Luke was drilling holes into things

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right so the cases we picked needed to

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have two holes drilled in the top of each of them before we could actually

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install any hardware because there was a clearance issue with the radiators in

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spite of our pre-planning that we hoped was going to work so Luke spent a lot of

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time doing that on the first day and then I started building some of the

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computers putting processors on motherboards you helped with that

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installing RAM power supply power supply that was first day yeah that was first

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day and then second day we did we finish

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the computers the second day I think second day we did liquid cooling yeah so

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we finished building the PCS which when it's five PCS is actually somewhat timec

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consuming especially when lonus gets abandoned by Luke so that he can test

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Intel's new fourth gen processors that second day cuz lukee helped on the first

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day yeah I think we're I think we're getting this it's all been a blur we've

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taken so much video and you promised

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that the videos about this are going to be awesome right uh now you're on the spot you

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asked if they would be good not awesome and I said I would make it good okay I

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guess that's what we're going to have to uh to go with we've got people

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complaining about audio sync issues again but the reality of it is guys is I

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think it's just just one of those things where yeah it's nothing to do with mine

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is just broken da no no no those are out those were released today the all new

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fourth gen 8 Core Extreme Edition all that good stuff so

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um would it help if I put the computer here so

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that I told you it looked like I was staring at your crotch okay if I put the

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computer here maybe that'll maybe that'll help a little bit um so on the

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second day we finished building the computers and I don't know whether it's

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because Swift Tech's fittings are super tight or their tubing is a little bit

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big when the weather's really hot but we were having a lot of trouble getting

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fittings on and those computers took

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more than a full day of working to

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install fittings in and install tubing in so then after that that's when Nick

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was working on redoing the to mount the radiator to the outside of

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the house right I don't know about that part just because I was busy fiddling

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with the fittings the entire time yeah Ed was the one we I actually didn't even

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know how swift teex quick disconnects worked and Ed was the one who figured

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out that we have to what does it come with it comes with a socket a G1 quarter

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socket and then we have to put an end cap on instead right yeah yeah how did I

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even figure that out I think I may have just been trying

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to undo the quick disconnect and then I

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couldn't figure that out and just twisting it things came off and I may

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have picked up the wrong piece and tried to put that on but it worked out yeah

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yeah so we figured that out and then through during that time Nick was uh

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realizing along with me that our original plan for mounting the radiators

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on the fascia board like under the roof overhang was not going to work it was

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way too big big and way too heavy like

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that Biz was not happening so Nick had

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to figure out how to build a like a wooden frame around the whole thing and

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then Mount the radiators to that and then we had to find a way to get that on

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the roof and I think that was what we did on the third day we mounted the

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radiator to the roof in the

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morning third day was wasn't that

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yesterday though yeah was that third day yeah we mounted the radiator yesterday

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and then today four days what do on Monday the afternoon yesterday and

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today we have filled the loop now a

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total of three times due to various leaking and configuration

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issues so that's been our week this week uh we can move on to actually I'm going

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to try to uh I'm going to try to upload this file again just because you know I

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can I can have a dream that maybe YouTube won't be broken uh the radiator

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isn't actually on the roof right it's uh

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in between the houses so here are the houses one house our house it's like

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over here and no matter where the sun is

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it's actually in the shade so it's not going to get

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cooked yeah we were actually kind of fortunate that there was somewhere

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sensible to put that because that wasn't

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necessarily um a thing that we plannned

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why is the piping not in the wall no way

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Firefox is working and chrome isn't for

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our upload

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brilliant freaking jokes man jokes man

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are we even using the Steed water no we're not right nope yeah it's just from

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the hose yeah it's from the hose cuz that was how the only way we were able

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to fill it um so lonus went up on the

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ladder radiator we brought up a hose

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into the bathroom and fill it that way this might

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look wrong that definitely looks all

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wrong yeah so that was the only way we could even get water into it because we

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are not using a closed system it's not

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sealed we actually have like a a fill

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tube that goes up above the highest

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level of the of the piping that's in the room so the only way to get any in there

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cuz there's no room to even pour is to put the hose in because if we brought it

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down any lower as soon as the pump stops

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the system would back up and pour water

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which we discovered the hard way once we discovered that it wasn't quite high

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enough were you there for that no I I think I was outside oh no it poured

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water all over me ah yeah I have gotten sprayed with water quite a few times in

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the last few days it has been extremely exciting

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all right so why don't we move on to our next topic here NVIDIA will allegedly

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skip 800 Series Desktop cards and the

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next generation will be called 900

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series this was posted by Rock 1 M1

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originally on the lus tech tips Forum so

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I guess do you want to give the basic facts here why don't we just if you put

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your leg down Wen really we can put this on both of our our legs then we can both

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look like we're staring at each other it was just like room so there's not much

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to talk about yeah so the fact is the rumor is that in order to align with

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what was it the notebook naming scheme they were going to name the notebook

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line G9 or was it GTX 900 yeah or 900m

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but then they thought that it would be confusing because the desktop was still

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on 700 and the notebooks are the

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notebooks were rebranded 800 a little while ago so they're in this weird

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position where they've they've done this at times I mean they've done it right

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now where the notebook ones are a series

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ahead of the desktop ones even though they're running this completely the same

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architecture um but I guess if they

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found themselves two gens ahead on mobile that might get extremely

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confusing and then or if they're planning to refresh both at the same

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time then now's a good time to just kind of skip one and catch up it's not the

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first time they've done it there was never a GTX 380 was that just for mobile uh no there

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was never I don't think there was ever a GTX 300 series at all cuz we got yeah

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they scrapped that yeah yeah I think the the rumor was they just completely

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scrapped the project entirely well the announcement will come

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rumored come on September 9th wow that's

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really soon we've got a lot of stuff going on right now with all the new

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Intel stuff uh ddr4 so our first video

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about the uh in the NVIDIA about the Intel Haswell e 8 Core Extreme Edition

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will actually be coming I think Tuesday

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night so Luke has run all the benchmarks I've scripted the video but we haven't

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had a single video editing workstation up and running in order laptop to

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actually make it so well there was a laptop but we were using that to make

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the videos that we've released over the last couple days so yeah there's been no

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time but guys this thing is a beast

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Intel has finally done it they have

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caught up to the mainstream platform I mean I don't know about the rest of you

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but I have found it extremely frustrating that for must be about 5

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years now you've been able to get better technology by buying into a mainstream

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platform than by buying into an Enthusiast platform I mean what's the

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deal with that and we're not even just talking about CPU architecture so ever

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since the uh the LGA 1156 LGA 1366 days

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ever since then you've been able to get you know things like um Quicks sync

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technology for quick video transcoding you've been able to get more usb3 ports

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native usb3 ports more native SATA 3

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connectors or even native SATA 3 connectors at all back in the x58 days

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like Thunderbolt all this new technology has been coming to the mainstream LGA

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1155 and LGA 1150 platforms before we

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get it on LGA 2011 well now all of that

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changes there is actually a justifiable

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reason to go LGA 20113 so the CPUs are all more course I

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mean that was supposed to be a big selling point even back with x58 was it

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can support more than four cores we had six cores the problem is that the only

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one on the in the consumer space was the 980x it was a and the

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990x and zons I guess but these are not

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these are not really consumer grade price points they were thousand CPUs so

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everyone just went with quad course on the mainstream platform because a few

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more PCI Express Lanes in triple Channel or quad Channel memory is not enough to

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justify a CPU architecture that is inherently anywhere from 8 to 15% slower

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depending on which generational Gap we're looking at regardless of how much

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memory bandwidth it has so now with LG

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20113 we are getting the same CPU

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architecture so it's Haswell or Haswell e but basically Haswell e is just

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Haswell with more Hells we are getting

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ddr4 which right now is very expensive

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for not much of a performance gain but in the future will give us much higher

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speed memory we're getting sad Channel memory we're getting more PCI Express

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Lanes so 40 on the highend chips and then I believe don't quote me on this I

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believe it's either 26 or 28 PCI Express Lanes on the lower end chip we're

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getting the same feature set so we can get Thunderbolt enabled motherboards

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which is really awesome like the x99 deluxe from ASUS has that Thunderbolt

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header so you can add their Thunderbolt 2 expansion card we are getting the

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works and it is what's

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up now are uh saying I'm quiet oh you're

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quiet sorry kind of got on the whole Intel quation I'm on kind of a thing

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because the problem with LGA 2011 was

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there was one CPU that was Within Reach

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for general consumers and it was either the 382k or the 4820k for the last

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couple of generations the problem was that was a quad core chip it was a

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quadcore chip that was more expensive on a more expensive platform form with more

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expensive RAM for literally no performance Improvement unless you

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really need the extra memory bandwidth or you really need a few more PCI

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Express Lanes which most people don't need unless they also need more

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processing cores so in order to even get

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a sensible configuration on LGA 2011 you were spending $600 plus dollars on your

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chip not exactly uh compelling sort of

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you know gamer type of price point well

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now on LGA 2011 3 for around 400 bucks

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you can get a six core so all of a sudden the entire Intel lineup makes

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sense again so on the mainstream you got quad cores up to nice high clocked ones

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like their new Devil's Canyon the 4790k then you pay another I guess it's

00:24:49.520 --> 00:24:56.279
around another $75 to $100 you get two

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more cores plus a more robust more

00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:02.880
Enthusiast grade platform and ddr4 support then beyond that you get a few

00:25:00.679 --> 00:25:06.120
more PCI Express Lanes although I think that lower end one is going to be the

00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:10.320
more appealing one for most enthusiasts and then at the very high end there's

00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:14.559
the extreme Edition the whole thing finally makes sense again so that's what

00:25:13.320 --> 00:25:18.559
I'm excited about and yeah we've got people talking

00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:24.320
about it in twitch chat that six core for 389 looks like a good CPU for the

00:25:21.360 --> 00:25:28.919
money damn right because even though single-threaded performance isn't going

00:25:25.919 --> 00:25:31.480
to be any better overclocking is solid

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ddr4 is going to help a little bit and if you need the extra cores like let's

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say you want to I don't know output videos while you game then you will have

00:25:38.320 --> 00:25:43.880
it someone says hire Luke back

00:25:41.360 --> 00:25:48.440
please lonus everyone is ignoring you and staring at

00:25:46.120 --> 00:25:53.919
edil Luke is not fired well not any more than he's

00:25:50.679 --> 00:25:55.760
usually fired Luke is at packs so he was

00:25:53.919 --> 00:26:03.640
driving last night and he's doing show coverage right now so he and Brandon are

00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:05.080
are doing a great job of that presumably

00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:09.159
they're asking him to poke me they always do this they do this with Luke

00:26:06.679 --> 00:26:13.279
too Luke poke lus why is this room so hot as if I'm not also looking at the

00:26:10.919 --> 00:26:17.919
twitch chat you know what this isn't nearly as hot as it usually is we have a

00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:22.000
fan blowing and we have the window open window's not open the window's not

00:26:19.919 --> 00:26:28.279
open oh you're going to want to open that window that explains why it's so hot in

00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:28.279
here

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oh I love this show all right so in other news that I

00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:42.840
suspect almost nobody cared about origin

00:26:39.520 --> 00:26:44.840
PC and AMD have officially made up so

00:26:42.840 --> 00:26:50.640
origin will once again give buyers the option to use AMD cards in their origin

00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:55.440
PCS this was posted by Juan Wu 26 on the

00:26:50.640 --> 00:26:57.480
Forum um did you even hear about this no

00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:02.039
but I read up on what the comments said and apparently origin PC just got butt

00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:07.559
hurt is that right just because they didn't uh they weren't informed by AMD

00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:15.080
about the Hawaii GPU launch okay so there's a couple of things

00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:18.240
um so rumor number one is that NVIDIA

00:27:15.080 --> 00:27:22.080
had a program where they paid origin

00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:23.880
copious amounts of money to not sell AMD

00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:30.120
but that's just a rumor but that is just a rumor um NVIDIA has come out and said

00:27:27.320 --> 00:27:36.320
that's not true um so that's all we know about that uh

00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:44.799
what I do know is that origin was not at the AMD Hawaii GPU

00:27:39.919 --> 00:27:48.600
event and main gear PC had a demo

00:27:44.799 --> 00:27:50.240
system up running Hawaii gpus at the

00:27:48.600 --> 00:27:58.799
event when origin did not allegedly have any access

00:27:54.640 --> 00:28:01.279
to said GPU so the rumor

00:27:58.799 --> 00:28:04.360
is that origin basically was super upset about that and was like what you don't

00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:09.120
want us to sell your gpus fine we're not going to sell your gpus anyway so

00:28:06.600 --> 00:28:15.480
apparently they have kissed and made up and uh AMD apologized which you know I

00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:20.519
think was probably merited cuz it's one thing if you invite

00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:25.640
you know all your system builder Partners to come and showcase their rigs

00:28:23.600 --> 00:28:31.480
it's another if you pick one favorite one and then leave all the others out or

00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:35.679
even one of the budget concern I don't

00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:38.039
think so I mean that Hawaii event cost a

00:28:35.679 --> 00:28:43.000
fortune maybe that's why there was a budget issue just getting everyone there

00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:49.799
they blew it all on lus wow I mean they had I think they had

00:28:46.679 --> 00:28:52.519
over aund Tech journalists at that

00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:56.320
event so they could have just not invited me and Austin and they could

00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:58.880
have probably afforded to have origin there and then this whole thing could

00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:06.399
have been avoided but who's more important really

00:29:02.679 --> 00:29:08.880
like me and Austin yeah or origin PC I

00:29:06.399 --> 00:29:14.000
think we have to do a straw pull straw pull time guys straw po do you want to

00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:20.120
see what I'm typing you can look at my crotch there we go who okay this is me

00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:28.640
looking at the laptop and this is me looking at his crotch this there's a

00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:29.919
difference lonus and Austin origin PC

00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:34.320
you know what's funny is we're actually going to be covering a really cool new

00:29:32.080 --> 00:29:37.919
product from origin at the show I'm not I'm not down on Origin at all they're

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:41.080
cool guys they have great products it's just uh just having some fun at their

00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:45.840
expense right now all right here we go here we go I'm

00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:48.320
sorry you're not logged in yeah there you go what the

00:29:49.840 --> 00:29:57.279
deuce all right guys I'm sharing this with you

00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:59.240
now I'm trying to trying desperately to

00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:02.840
you know I'm actually really excited about the technological improvements

00:30:01.120 --> 00:30:06.559
that I think the Amazon acquisition is going to bring to Twitch what's what

00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:13.880
what do you think is going to change I think it will improve reliability

00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:16.480
because Amazon is reliable I mean

00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:24.799
AWS yeah is reliable except for those times that it has gone down and led to

00:30:20.120 --> 00:30:28.000
dozens of sites being offline okay when

00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:30.360
when AWS has a problem I think the new

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:35.559
news about it gets Amplified I don't think that's because AWS has tons of

00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:39.120
problems compared to other services I think it's just that because they host

00:30:37.679 --> 00:30:42.960
so much it's a lot more noticeable when

00:30:41.360 --> 00:30:46.320
there's some kind of an issue I

00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:53.840
think I think that might be an issue in

00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:56.639
itself just because if twitch goes down

00:30:53.840 --> 00:31:03.600
with like abson hosting it and like 10 other sites that you

00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:07.639
might go to also go down right you know what are you left with whereas if those

00:31:05.600 --> 00:31:12.000
go down you still have twitch so you can you can watch us well I suspect that

00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:16.279
they will be I mean unless you know an entire data center loses power and is

00:31:14.840 --> 00:31:20.000
underwater or something like that I suspect you won't see an outright outage

00:31:18.120 --> 00:31:23.840
of something like twitch you might see the service slow down in much the same

00:31:22.320 --> 00:31:31.159
way that we often see happen now but it has happened right right hasn't it

00:31:28.679 --> 00:31:36.880
pretty sure where it's like oh blah blah blah is

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:39.399
down and it's all leads to Amazon being

00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:42.919
down very rare but I think the thing we can all agree on is that lonus and

00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:47.080
Austin were much more important to invite to the Hawaii event than origin

00:31:44.600 --> 00:31:51.720
PC so we're really sorry about that origin you know you guys uh you guys you

00:31:49.720 --> 00:31:56.279
guys tried you know you tried to be as cool as me and Austin but unfortunately

00:31:53.639 --> 00:32:01.679
that wasn't going to happen all right what do we got for our next topic

00:31:58.360 --> 00:32:05.320
aha valve will optimize their streaming

00:32:01.679 --> 00:32:07.399
service with NVIDIA Hardware so this is

00:32:05.320 --> 00:32:13.480
from the NVIDIA blog let's go ahead and share my screen with you guys

00:32:09.679 --> 00:32:15.240
here there we go valin NVIDIA just made

00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:18.639
game streaming better than ever last week valve officially released support

00:32:16.919 --> 00:32:23.159
for Hardware en coding on NVIDIA GeForce gpus in the steam client pair the

00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:26.159
support with one of the latest GeForce GTX gpus and you can play remotely from

00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:30.240
your PC connected to any steam enabled system in your home at resolutions of up

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:36.240
1080 60p

00:32:32.919 --> 00:32:38.000
so I think this is kind of NVIDIA making

00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:42.399
a lot of noise about something that was bound to happen eventually and really

00:32:39.639 --> 00:32:49.159
not that different from much anything else anyhow but it's great I mean have

00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:55.720
you tried steam in home streaming no no okay it is awesome and I've actually

00:32:53.120 --> 00:33:00.799
spent a little bit of time on Steam Chat with the lead Dev for Ste in home

00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:05.240
streaming um and he was I was chatting to him about sort of video encoding and

00:33:03.399 --> 00:33:12.159
decoding and what they're doing with respect to lowering latency and it's

00:33:09.320 --> 00:33:17.600
absolutely fascinating because they basically have to rackle it from a

00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.080
different angle for every different combination of encoders and decoders in

00:33:20.320 --> 00:33:28.360
order to make sure that everything is compatible and everything not only works

00:33:25.159 --> 00:33:30.279
but is extremely low latency so you

00:33:28.360 --> 00:33:34.120
don't feel that Network lag when you move the keyb and or when you press the

00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:39.519
keybard move the mouse what do I play overing home streaming almost anything

00:33:36.679 --> 00:33:49.080
I've even played FPS games is that to The Shield or no so one of the

00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:52.279
potential problems with streaming within

00:33:49.080 --> 00:33:55.080
the home so from a a more powerful PC to

00:33:52.279 --> 00:34:02.679
a smaller device or a laptop or another PC was I saw potential competing

00:33:59.320 --> 00:34:04.880
standards as a roadblock the fact that

00:34:02.679 --> 00:34:09.599
NVIDIA had their own technology where it was like okay you need a GeForce GPU you

00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:14.679
got to install GeForce experience on your PC you got to have an NVIDIA Shield

00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:19.720
branded device so whether it's a portable handheld or the tablet and you

00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:23.639
got to have a supported router and that is it you plug in all these things and

00:34:21.839 --> 00:34:29.560
then all the check marks come on and it works so I kind of saw that as a

00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:36.040
potential problem problem compared to valve solution which is okay do you have

00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:38.679
a graphics card great do you have a CPU

00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:44.760
also great do you have some other thing great it works except the other thing

00:34:42.520 --> 00:34:48.919
has to run Steam and the first thing has to run Steam as well and then depending

00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:52.679
on the hardware you were going to either have a really great experience if you

00:34:50.839 --> 00:34:56.800
had nice fast Hardware encoding and decoding or you were going to have a

00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:01.920
super crummy experience so for example LGA 11

00:34:58.560 --> 00:35:05.839
1156 CPUs were available in either dual

00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.960
core with onboard Graphics or quad core

00:35:05.839 --> 00:35:12.200
with no onboard Graphics configurations the dual core would have

00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:16.480
been able to support Hardware accelerated

00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:20.720
decoding the quad core could not so there was some tricky stuff with

00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:26.800
respect to making sure you had a configuration that was going to work with steam and home streaming so now

00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:31.200
seeing NVIDIA and valve work together on this I now have complete confidence that

00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:36.079
whether you're going to run Windows or you're going to run Steam OS people who

00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:37.920
run AMD people who run AMD are still

00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:42.440
going to be okay because valve is going to work with AMD as well Val because AMD

00:35:40.520 --> 00:35:48.319
doesn't even have a competing solution they don't have free stream or whatever

00:35:45.560 --> 00:35:54.400
it is they would call something like that you think they will so many people

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:56.480
have actually just gone with NVIDIA and

00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:01.480
like completely abandoned AMD is it's funny you mention that

00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:08.040
because the market share isn't that much different than it was 5 years ago AMD's

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:11.520
always kind of been in that 20 to 35%

00:36:08.040 --> 00:36:15.200
range of the discret desktop GPU

00:36:11.520 --> 00:36:15.200
Market that's all they really

00:36:15.640 --> 00:36:20.839
got AMD free stream we have to start

00:36:18.640 --> 00:36:27.680
that we have to make that happen we have to tell AMD that they have to have like

00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:30.560
um like a a Freel handheld and then they

00:36:27.680 --> 00:36:36.280
have to have like AMD free stream and and that should that should be

00:36:33.040 --> 00:36:38.960
awesome for the AMD

00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:42.760
people I'd be really interested to see valve I mean I'm I'm hoping that this is

00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:47.440
an announcement they make in the next six months to a year but it would put

00:36:45.040 --> 00:36:50.760
the final nail in the NVIDIA game stream coffin for me if valve released an

00:36:49.560 --> 00:36:57.319
Android steam client and

00:36:53.200 --> 00:37:00.040
I I see them potentially heading this

00:36:57.319 --> 00:37:05.800
way already they ported portal to Android they ported halflife 2 to

00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:09.760
Android they already have a steam

00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:11.960
app so how far are we away from Steam

00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:16.920
being your gaming Hub potentially on Android as well with all of these other

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:21.760
fantastic steam features running natively on Android or being streamed

00:37:19.680 --> 00:37:27.359
running natively on Android that's what I'd like to see because then with valve

00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:32.200
behind it I mean all the respect in the world world to the Limelight guys every

00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:37.040
time I've used Limelight the latency has not been comparable to NVIDIA game

00:37:34.160 --> 00:37:41.480
stream valve on the other hand I have faith that they could make that happen

00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:48.599
and they could make streaming from your PC AMD powered Invidia powered Intel

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:52.960
onboard powered who cares I think they could make that a great experience

00:37:50.160 --> 00:37:58.200
streaming to any device that has a beefy enough um h264 decoder chip on board

00:37:56.400 --> 00:38:04.000
apparently NVIDIA did ports NVIDIA did the ports themselves

00:38:01.520 --> 00:38:08.599
don't think so I know that NVIDIA was deeply involved in the ports but valve

00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:14.280
was also involved in porting those games and even then I mean the fact that valve

00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:14.280
was even willing to entertain

00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:23.920
that I don't know we'll see I mean it's going to be it's going to be a big it's

00:38:21.319 --> 00:38:30.040
going to be a big battle for what is the next gaming platform of choice Beyond on

00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:34.240
the PC and Beyond really not so much the PC cuz I don't think the PC is going

00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.800
anywhere but beyond the console it's either going to be some type of

00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:43.200
lightweight PC something like an Alienware Alpha or something like uh any

00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:49.079
other sort of lightweight desktop type machine running Steam OS or some other

00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:51.160
Linux derivative or even Windows or it's

00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:55.520
going to be Android and if you look at the overall strategy valve and NVIDIA

00:38:54.000 --> 00:39:00.640
both obviously believe in different things here with valve thinking we're heading the direction of steam PCS or

00:38:59.200 --> 00:39:07.400
whatever they want to call them and NVIDIA thinking we're headed towards Android but I don't think either of them

00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:11.480
really Minds if it's the other one or some mix of the two because NVIDIA can

00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:15.079
still sell you gpus over here and valve can still sell you games over

00:39:13.560 --> 00:39:19.000
here so I wasn't listening at all I was

00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:22.119
reading twitch chat did they say anything interesting or are they just

00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:28.119
telling you to poke me more something about your crotch maybe

00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:33.560
ah yes my crotch my crotch is is uh definitely one of the top subjects of

00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:40.800
discussion on the stream today love it so originally posted by

00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:42.880
Mech 777 the article from Hardware

00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:51.160
360.com I'm just going to go ahead and fire this baby up here Witcher 3 Dev

00:39:46.200 --> 00:39:51.160
promises only 30 FPS on

00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:58.839
consoles what w although the funny thing

00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:01.000
about this is that

00:39:58.839 --> 00:40:07.000
uh they basically said okay we're going to be aiming for the highest resolution

00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:09.480
possible but full HD 1080p would likely

00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:15.079
not be possible and the only thing they could promise was 30 FPS so essentially

00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:20.640
even though you know there have been some complaints about there being a

00:40:17.240 --> 00:40:25.319
console release at least what the uh you

00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:27.760
know PC Master race subreddit can uh

00:40:25.319 --> 00:40:32.640
take some consolation in is the the fact that the experience on the console is

00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:38.319
going to be significantly degraded is David still here David yeah yeah is can

00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:44.440
you get the door when it rings in a minute thank you UPS is outside I think

00:40:42.359 --> 00:40:49.280
they've got a uh Cooler Master power supply for edel's new dual Titan 12 core

00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:55.839
editing workstation yeah that's your new power supply man and something else H yeah

00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:58.800
David's gonna David's gonna grab it we should say hi to the UPS guy

00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:05.040
I don't think you can hear me I think he's got his Bluetooth headset in have you ever really gotten into a

00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:09.800
Witcher game yeah I love The Witcher games okay tell me what's appealing

00:41:07.319 --> 00:41:14.960
about them I've tried both Witcher one and Witcher 2 enlighten me I find that

00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:19.960
the character interactions

00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:22.680
are above the standard that you might be

00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:28.119
used to for most games uh the main character is actually kind of shitty he

00:41:24.520 --> 00:41:31.960
like no offense no offense to the voice

00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:34.560
actor or the writers but isn't that by

00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:39.280
default isn't that who you just offended saying no offense doesn't make it

00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:44.119
unoffensive okay fine full offense to

00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:46.680
anyone involved but geralt is kind of a

00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:51.880
shitty character he's always like dead pan and I don't know he's just not a

00:41:49.520 --> 00:41:56.760
very good character but but everyone else is a good character and they

00:41:54.000 --> 00:42:00.640
develop and like their interactions with uh you

00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:07.079
are interesting and like it's all based on novels so like they are actually

00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:10.960
fleshed out and uh just like playing in

00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.119
that that world that actually exists in

00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:18.800
detail somewhere uh is nicer than other games

00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:22.599
that's that's what I like about it like how they create their creatures they

00:42:20.359 --> 00:42:28.079
have a lore you can read up on them so on and so forth hey David could we

00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:32.160
actually get those those things yeah do mind I just want to

00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:39.119
find out what this is I'm hoping it's Dominator platinum ddr4 and we can show

00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:41.160
that to you guys okay because I have

00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:46.160
I've tried both times and within actually the funny thing is with Witcher

00:42:43.040 --> 00:42:47.880
2 I even got like an hour and a half in

00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:54.720
because I was looking for a consistent benchmarking spot and I just I did not

00:42:52.440 --> 00:43:00.559
find it compelling at all thank you sir do you like fantasy

00:42:57.680 --> 00:43:03.839
RPGs anyway I made it all the way through Dragon

00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:10.680
Age one uh yeah Dragon Age 2 I did not find

00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:14.680
nearly as compelling that was kind of shitty compared to uh this one Dragon

00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:20.319
Age one was really great though I really enjoyed it I don't have a

00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:22.559
knife I do what is this who's it

00:43:20.319 --> 00:43:26.079
from oh it is from Corsair but I don't know what it is it

00:43:24.839 --> 00:43:31.000
doesn't feel heavy enough to be dominator platinums wa chat guess what

00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:35.520
it is let's play a guessing game live

00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:42.920
unboxings

00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:51.800
okay oh am I not supposed to swear I don't care okay try not to drop drop F

00:43:48.520 --> 00:43:55.800
Bombs all over the place you know oh

00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:57.960
it's the new um Corsair link thing cool

00:43:55.800 --> 00:44:02.880
so this is supposed a pretty big improvement over the old one wow it's

00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:06.240
much lower profile I don't know how much they've shown of this yet so I'm going

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:10.960
to just kind of put that back in the box for now but uh cool so we're definitely

00:44:09.680 --> 00:44:15.760
going to check that out and then the other

00:44:13.640 --> 00:44:21.079
one here you want to do the honors I like how you just toss things ah it's

00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:26.559
It's Not Fragile it's Corsair it's made by Corsair so it's pretty

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:31.400
good unlikely to break we've actually thrown horse aair power supplies out of

00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:37.359
out of cars and drop them off roofs speaking of great power supplies though

00:44:34.839 --> 00:44:43.359
this is one of the finest power supplies available on the market 80 plus Platinum

00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.400
1200 watt fully modular so this is a vs

00:44:43.359 --> 00:44:50.839
series power supply from Cooler Master because we realized as we were building

00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:55.480
the rigs for the whole room liquid cooling setup that we had asked Cooler

00:44:53.000 --> 00:45:00.880
Master for 750 wat power supplies with the assumption that I was going to be

00:44:58.200 --> 00:45:07.920
getting one of the Titan blacks well after much debate and much um

00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:14.880
concealment of the actual are just like yeah let give me

00:45:11.359 --> 00:45:18.359
the Titan yeah so I ended up with an old

00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:21.000
GTX 285 that we had lying around

00:45:18.359 --> 00:45:28.160
somewhere in my rig and Ed ended up with two Titans and we kind of went shoot is

00:45:24.319 --> 00:45:29.760
750 watts even enough probably not so

00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:35.720
cuz he's got three graphics cards in there uh what is it the two Titans and a

00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:41.720
Quadro yeah two Titans and a Quadro plus the 10 gbit Ethernet card plus the 12

00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:44.280
core processor so we're talking about

00:45:41.720 --> 00:45:48.880
the kind of rig that these types of power supplies are legitimately made for

00:45:46.160 --> 00:45:52.839
actually we should actually like measure how much it actually takes we should

00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:57.040
measure like when you're when you're um dinking around in Cinema 4D we should

00:45:55.280 --> 00:46:01.960
have a look at what kind of power consumption when you're hitting the RAM

00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:03.480
the gpus and the CPU all same used that

00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:08.480
much uh during octane oh that's right now so yeah it's

00:46:06.240 --> 00:46:12.319
all it's all what I'm going to give the floor to you while I go get a drink of

00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:16.040
water um would you like one too can you get my energy drink in the other room

00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:22.119
sure yeah I'll grab your energy drink but I want you to justify because people

00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:24.040
haven't really I think been able to

00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:30.800
understand why anyone could possibly need a 12 core CPU 64 gigs of RAM dual

00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:32.319
Titan blacks and a Quadro in one machine

00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.880
can you justify what the heck it is you do around here that you need that kind

00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:42.680
of power for I'll be right back justify that

00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.680
okay where to start where to

00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:54.800
start all right so for the the 12 core

00:46:51.160 --> 00:46:57.359
processor um well I use after effects

00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:03.920
pretty much exclusively these days no that's that's a lie uh most for the big

00:47:01.319 --> 00:47:08.520
projects like the build guides I guess that's it these days um I use after

00:47:06.839 --> 00:47:17.440
effects to do Motion Graphics for the intro the lower thirds and then I've

00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:20.599
also started to use Cinema 4D and I have

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:27.040
the octane renderer engine which is

00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:29.280
fully GPU accelerated so to put this

00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:35.079
to I guess size this up against each other uh my six core processor would

00:47:32.359 --> 00:47:41.800
render a frame in about six minutes one GPU would render one frame

00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:47.839
in 1 minute 30 seconds I'll be back actually I'm not quite ready

00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:52.559
yet two gpus would be around 45 seconds

00:47:47.839 --> 00:47:57.079
I can't do math uh so three it's bound

00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:59.800
to be what 20ish 25 seconds someone do

00:47:57.079 --> 00:47:59.800
the math for me

00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:08.520
please porn why are we talking about porn I don't get

00:48:11.680 --> 00:48:17.599
this uh the yeah it's a one frame and

00:48:15.720 --> 00:48:22.880
six second or 6 minutes because it's like 3D Ray tracing no it's actually

00:48:20.160 --> 00:48:29.400
like Photon something or other but it's definitely more intensive than 2D video

00:48:25.680 --> 00:48:32.160
would you like to sit back down yeah

00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:37.760
sure I noticed in my absence you just completely took over the entire couch

00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:43.280
awesome so had you made it through all of the components yet uh I don't think

00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:45.720
I've Justified the RAM yet okay so in

00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:51.799
After Effects to use multiprocessor rendering you have to assign each core

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:54.200
some RAM ideally you want to assign it

00:48:51.799 --> 00:49:02.520
three gigs each I don't have enough for that so I so I assign it two G GS that's

00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:06.440
what 2 * 12 no 24 because it counts the

00:49:02.520 --> 00:49:09.960
separate threads as a core right 4 48

00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:11.920
gigs so that's 48 I guess I could no

00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:16.359
that brings it up to no you used to have no you did you didn't used to be able to

00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:21.760
do it because you had six cores 12 threads 12 * 3 is

00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:23.599
36 and you had 32 gigs whereas with the

00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:28.079
new 64 gig config you'll have 24 threads time yeah

00:49:26.720 --> 00:49:32.520
you still won't have yeah I can still only assign 12 gigs to it yeah but you

00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:36.240
know what we could try as an experiment we could try turning off

00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:42.200
hyperthreading because hyperthreading will give you a uh you know probably a

00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:44.280
10 to 15% boost but you might get more

00:49:42.200 --> 00:49:47.319
of a boost by being able to assign more RAM to your course interesting we should

00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:52.040
play around with that that's going to be cool anyway sorry some mac users have

00:49:49.359 --> 00:49:57.880
allegedly disabled some cores but that's not hyperthreading no

00:49:55.160 --> 00:50:04.880
you can you can oh because the Mac Pro only has four memory slots but then you

00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:07.119
can load it with ECC RAM so h t it I

00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:13.880
still have more slots on there right yeah you have eight slots could get more

00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:17.079
RAM um yes a uh ASUS has a beta BIOS for

00:50:13.880 --> 00:50:20.160
the x79 deluxe that supports uh 16 gig

00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:22.319
dims but only certain ones not the ones

00:50:20.160 --> 00:50:26.520
that we originally obtained for the project okay so sorry you were

00:50:24.040 --> 00:50:32.880
justifying why you need why you need all these uh I Justified the Cinema 4D just

00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:35.200
because uh linear performance scaling

00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:39.920
with graphics cards which is amazing I think I need two more Titans honestly

00:50:38.359 --> 00:50:46.040
cuz Okay take the cost of a Titan right and

00:50:44.160 --> 00:50:51.680
then ,000

00:50:47.640 --> 00:50:54.400
take count how many hours an extra Titan

00:50:51.680 --> 00:50:59.240
would save me in rendering in the one project we've everever done one so far

00:50:56.680 --> 00:51:04.799
more it could be more if I could do things faster I could do more of those

00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:10.000
and that's how I'm trying to justify two more Titans well you've got two why

00:51:06.640 --> 00:51:10.000
don't we see how it goes from

00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:17.960
there anyway so because of him I don't

00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:25.079
even have a DisplayPort output so my LG monitor is running on a DVI to HDMI

00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:27.240
adapter and HDMI in at 50 HZ so I'm

00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:32.359
going to have to obtain some other kind of GPU for my system and when that

00:51:30.359 --> 00:51:36.319
happens I guess around the same time we're going to add another pump to the

00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:40.760
whole room setup so that bleeding air from the system is much much easier

00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:45.000
because right now the only way to bleed the air from the lines that go down and

00:51:43.319 --> 00:51:51.240
then up to each system from the top of the room is to disconnect all the other

00:51:48.599 --> 00:51:55.119
systems so that the main pump is only pushing through one system so that we

00:51:52.760 --> 00:52:01.319
can get all the air bubbles out but what's cool is the way we have it

00:51:57.720 --> 00:52:04.400
working right now none of the systems

00:52:01.319 --> 00:52:06.400
even have pumps on so if we could close

00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:09.599
the door to the server room the fans are on the fans are running you still want

00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.040
fans running but we wouldn't have to have them all running so the way that

00:52:11.640 --> 00:52:20.880
it's set up right now if we could close the door to the server room we could actually have the room be extremely

00:52:17.319 --> 00:52:23.640
quiet which uh how loud is the the red

00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:28.000
not bad not bad but what I'm thinking is we might get um like a variable power

00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:34.839
supply so we could dial it into 8 volts or something like that cuz with 20

00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:37.640
Noctua industrial N2 fans and then five

00:52:34.839 --> 00:52:41.720
quad radiators it's way more than enough for the systems that we have in there we

00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:47.440
actually had it running passively for hours today with three of the systems

00:52:44.040 --> 00:52:49.319
idling and Ed's 12 core priming and we

00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:55.799
you managed to raise it what like two degrees what on passive yeah passive

00:52:52.920 --> 00:53:03.160
without the fans even running 100% it was 40 8° C idle was 30 yeah I mean but

00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:08.799
um when you had it priming it went up to about 50° C Max

00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:12.119
right it's about the same was it about the same okay maybe we didn't even

00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:17.280
manage to increase the temps but I'm thinking in the winter we may not have

00:53:14.839 --> 00:53:22.720
to disconnect from the whole room system what we might do is just turn off all

00:53:19.799 --> 00:53:27.000
the fans and then if we have enough or or turn on only a few of the fans so

00:53:25.960 --> 00:53:32.640
what I'm thinking is as like a phase two if Luke and I

00:53:29.640 --> 00:53:34.400
could find a way to have a temperature

00:53:32.640 --> 00:53:43.000
controlled um switch for each Bank of fans so as

00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:45.160
water temperature reaches X degre

00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:50.119
another bank of fans turns on and as it reaches X degrees another bank turns on

00:53:47.799 --> 00:53:55.200
and then they turn off to prevent the entire water cooling system from getting

00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:58.960
so cold that we have condensation problems so that that could be like a

00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:05.079
phase two where it actually intelligently maintains its temperature

00:54:01.640 --> 00:54:07.680
at a specific setting can you set uh fan

00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:17.160
curve without without a PC connected to it we yeah there would be a way actually

00:54:11.680 --> 00:54:20.079
yes a t balancer can be configured with

00:54:17.160 --> 00:54:25.760
extra mini controllers and those will run oh I geta

00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:28.880
you you program them so you don't actually have to have the software

00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:35.200
interacting with it that could even work

00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.839
stupid it's it's so stupid it might just

00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:42.040
be brilliant this is getting stupider and stupider I love

00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:43.319
it oo I'm excited oh we had someone in

00:54:42.040 --> 00:54:48.720
the twitch chat figure out the tea balancer thing before I said it so we got to give them a shout out for that

00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:52.160
who is it who is it where are you I can't find it because I don't have that

00:54:50.040 --> 00:54:56.640
stupid plugin installed in my browser so I can't scroll up anyway good job um you

00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:02.040
know what we should probably do our spa spots before we completely run out of

00:54:58.160 --> 00:55:06.559
time today so first up is 54 Club so

00:55:02.040 --> 00:55:10.760
guys to be clear the 54 Club offer has

00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:13.319
actually changed a little bit so now

00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:18.280
instead of saving $15 on your first package they are actually going to send

00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:23.280
you all the clothing that you ordered and they're just going to put cash money

00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:29.960
in the Box for you $10 cash bo like actually cash like dollar bills or

00:55:26.039 --> 00:55:33.039
whatever ever that is that is it so

00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:35.520
rather than like an online discount

00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:41.520
they're offering $10 cash back in the packaging that doesn't make any sense

00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:43.960
like okay sure why not so guys the whole

00:55:41.520 --> 00:55:47.799
thing with 54 Club is that it takes the effort out of shopping so I'm just going

00:55:46.240 --> 00:55:53.599
to pull up their site so I can show you guys how the whole thing

00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:55.920
works here we go line is to screen share

00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:59.880
actually I should probably move that there we go shopping sucks let us take

00:55:57.839 --> 00:56:05.680
care of making you look good now edel you enjoy shopping correct I love

00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:11.079
shopping lonus you know me so well I thought you do like shopping you like

00:56:07.720 --> 00:56:14.119
wearing nice clothes yeah I

00:56:11.079 --> 00:56:16.520
guess okay so even even the ones who

00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:20.359
like wearing nice clothes apparently I really I thought you enjoyed shopping

00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:23.480
for clothes you wanted to go shopping in Vegas when we were there the first year

00:56:22.200 --> 00:56:29.520
yeah but there's not there wasn't much else to do like outside outside of the

00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:31.359
park fres just like what is in Vegas

00:56:29.520 --> 00:56:36.799
besides gambling I hate gambling so the way 54 Club works is

00:56:34.640 --> 00:56:41.480
every month they send you a package of clothes so you can look and feel great

00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:46.319
you take a quick survey it takes literally less than a minute Luke and I

00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:49.920
both actually timed it see I'm actually you know what that's what we're going to

00:56:47.680 --> 00:56:54.240
do today we are going to do the survey in fact check this out they even put a

00:56:51.599 --> 00:57:00.599
timer in the corner so that you can you can realize as you finish that you uh

00:56:58.200 --> 00:57:03.599
took less than a minute to do it so what should we go

00:57:01.720 --> 00:57:07.559
for okay I'm going to have you do the survey Ed do business casual here hold

00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:12.599
on I actually really like the 54 system just because okay you want business

00:57:09.720 --> 00:57:18.200
casual yeah okay all right can I get this I scroll down the page uh what's

00:57:14.799 --> 00:57:21.640
your favorite color to wear H it's buil

00:57:18.200 --> 00:57:23.520
fall now right so maybe a red or brown

00:57:21.640 --> 00:57:27.760
no let's go with blue let's go with blue what does blue have to do with fall okay

00:57:25.680 --> 00:57:33.039
what's your second favorite color to wear let's go with a gray let's go with

00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:40.319
that let's go with a gray third favorite color let's go with brown okay Brown and

00:57:36.799 --> 00:57:45.520
then what is your top size medium medium

00:57:40.319 --> 00:57:46.839
what is your bottom size 32 all right 32

00:57:45.520 --> 00:57:53.680
what does your bottom fit straight straight fit yep shoe size

00:57:50.799 --> 00:58:00.039
H oh jeez nine what shoe you're probably about a nine yeah okay okay and then

00:57:57.240 --> 00:58:00.039
which do you like

00:58:01.720 --> 00:58:06.839
more striped go striped all right what

00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:10.359
is your second favorite shirt type solid solid all right so you're not a plaid

00:58:08.319 --> 00:58:15.240
guy is what you're trying to say raw or washed for your jeans uh raw Gotta Love

00:58:12.640 --> 00:58:23.839
The Raw okay what kind of denim style do you prefer fashion fashion denim t-shirt

00:58:19.640 --> 00:58:27.119
preference fashion fashion okay and

00:58:23.839 --> 00:58:30.680
shoes oh they're both

00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:33.000
now let good with b b all right so there

00:58:30.680 --> 00:58:37.319
you go total time lapsed 101 seconds all right so it took us a little longer than

00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:45.880
60 seconds but the main point is on your first time you get $10 cash back so sign

00:58:41.240 --> 00:58:48.799
up at bit.ly Linus FFC and try it out we

00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:54.960
actually had uh a 54 Club sponsorship spot that we did a while back that um

00:58:51.680 --> 00:58:57.319
was a total disaster I got all of the

00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:02.880
the pricing wrong got the offer for their July thing totally wrong but you

00:59:00.720 --> 00:59:07.559
know what's hilarious is they actually reached out to us and said a whole bunch

00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:13.000
of our viewers signed up so in the next couple minutes I'd like to hear from any

00:59:10.240 --> 00:59:20.400
of you who signed up for 54 Club go ahead and tweet with # Linus

00:59:16.680 --> 00:59:22.000
54 not because I'm 5'4 inches tall I'm

00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:28.079
much taller than that what's the offer code um someone asked sorry someone

00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:31.160
asked what the offer code was uh offer

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:34.359
code is lonus I believe 54 Linus let me

00:59:31.160 --> 00:59:37.480
just double check I really love uh the

00:59:34.359 --> 00:59:40.599
54 system just because

00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:42.359
like I don't have time to go shopping

00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:48.839
like during the weekdays just because I leave here at 6 no

00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:57.280
5:30 oh apparently we've used hash Linus 54 before all righty

00:59:51.799 --> 00:59:57.280
then um okay 54

00:59:58.520 --> 01:00:05.400
for those of you just tuning in uh Luke

01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:10.280
is off at packs I'm

01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:11.640
edel edel Yago on Twitter I guess me

01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:17.000
doing that doesn't really do anything does it I don't think so

01:00:13.640 --> 01:00:17.000
yeah follow

01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:25.599
me that I'm posting the link guys just make sure you use the link and I believe

01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:27.680
offer code is lonus so give that a try

01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:30.880
all right and then so yeah if I'm going to see if anyone has actually tweeted

01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:36.960
with the hashtag hashtag I want to hear what you

01:00:33.319 --> 01:00:42.000
guys think of it Linus

01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:44.760
54 I did caps lock so 22 seconds ago all

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:47.720
you did was use the hashtag you didn't actually tell me what you think of it

01:00:46.359 --> 01:00:52.520
okay so maybe we'll come back to this later but in the meantime Twitter is

01:00:50.160 --> 01:00:57.960
hard our I know Twitter is so difficult our second sponsor this week is hyper X

01:00:55.960 --> 01:01:03.920
memor so they are actually our gold sponsor for our P Prime coverage Luke

01:01:00.720 --> 01:01:05.599
and Brandon are down there at the show

01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:12.359
and hopefully having a ton of fun bringing you guys a ton of great coverage over the next um I guess it'll

01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:15.039
be is Friday Saturday Saturday Sunday

01:01:12.359 --> 01:01:18.000
Monday um all the packs Prime coverage should be landing so they're going to be

01:01:16.319 --> 01:01:22.160
covering some game stuff they're going to be covering some of the hardware

01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:26.520
stuff and you guys should definitely definitely get excited about that I

01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:32.599
think Luke is going to be trying to get all of his work done in the

01:01:29.400 --> 01:01:35.000
first uh I think what was he trying to

01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:38.760
do trying to get all of his work done in the first two days and then try to spend

01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:43.359
a bunch of time gaming so if you're going to be down in the byoc down at PA

01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:47.000
Prime definitely go say hi to Luke and Brandon they're both going to be there

01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:53.480
Nick's going to be there as well and Luke actually has my computer down there

01:01:51.799 --> 01:01:57.200
so if you've ever wanted to see my personal rig in person and you're going

01:01:55.279 --> 01:02:02.079
to be down at packs and you're going to be in the byoc that's basically going to

01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:07.680
be the requirements he um didn't have time to fix up his Spotswood test bench

01:02:05.319 --> 01:02:11.119
and he asked if uh if he could build up a rig from some of the parts around the

01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:18.319
office and I was just like well I got a newborn I'm not gaming this weekend

01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:21.279
so yeah I guess you can just take my rig

01:02:18.319 --> 01:02:28.119
so I thought that was pretty darn cool all right so just someone did it in

01:02:24.920 --> 01:02:30.119
14 seconds someone did what did the 54

01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:36.599
thing in 14 seconds yeah I don't think they actually chose things right or they

01:02:33.599 --> 01:02:38.480
might just be like I that's kind of fun

01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:43.200
maybe for our next uh maybe for our next 54 integration thing we should actually

01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:47.880
make that a contest let's see who can do the 54 survey in the least amount of

01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:54.240
time um just so you know guys uh the pricing for 54 so per month is 60 bucks

01:02:51.279 --> 01:02:59.720
they send you a sticker price of sorry what's up what's the 54 hash

01:02:56.640 --> 01:03:04.599
oh oh sorry sorry sorry I'll post that

01:02:59.720 --> 01:03:06.000
okay so # Linus 54 guys so hit us on

01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:10.720
Twitter with that I want to hear what you think of the service now that you've

01:03:07.839 --> 01:03:15.480
been using it so it's 60 bucks a month and then you get a total value of $100

01:03:13.720 --> 01:03:20.319
worth of clothing and then the first month they're just going to send you $10

01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:24.559
in the box so you get effectively a $10 discount on your first month oh and

01:03:22.279 --> 01:03:28.960
something I should mention about um hyperx's sponsorship for PAX Prime is

01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:33.079
they really wanted me to tell you guys yo check out their YouTube channel

01:03:31.720 --> 01:03:38.599
because they've been doing a lot of really cool stuff on it lately so you

01:03:35.279 --> 01:03:40.839
just go to youtube.com/ I think just

01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:45.160
hyperx works now as well no it doesn't so youtube.com/ Kingston

01:03:45.279 --> 01:03:53.680
hyperx and they've been doing a bunch of really cool stuff so aside from just

01:03:50.359 --> 01:03:55.839
like yeah you know here's some really

01:03:53.680 --> 01:03:59.400
great memory and headsets and USB drives and stuff you should probably you should

01:03:57.640 --> 01:04:05.799
probably try it out they've also got a bunch of really cool content that's like

01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:08.799
um bloggy style or skits or interviews

01:04:05.799 --> 01:04:12.359
with pro orts athletes so um they're

01:04:08.799 --> 01:04:14.440
doing a fantastic job of releasing a ton

01:04:12.359 --> 01:04:18.200
of interesting content when you compare that to what other brand names tend to

01:04:16.520 --> 01:04:23.880
do on their YouTube channels where it's like yet another place to put an ad um I

01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:29.480
think their approach is really stands out from the crowd so I I like how uh

01:04:27.160 --> 01:04:37.640
they've been doing a lot of a lot of videos or ads with actual Pro Gamers I

01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:41.520
like they're they're not they're not

01:04:37.640 --> 01:04:43.720
actors so so they're kind of terad I

01:04:41.520 --> 01:04:47.440
wasn't sure if I could say that or not but that's fine it's genuine yeah it is

01:04:45.720 --> 01:04:52.400
genuine and it does help the Esports scene so I I do really appreciate that

01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:58.359
so I mean actually this is this is funny we uh check this out we we creeped them

01:04:55.720 --> 01:05:03.039
on W show last week to have a look at how their YouTube channel is growing and

01:05:01.160 --> 01:05:07.400
they had added let's look at their full monthly statistics they had added almost

01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:12.839
half of their total subscriber count in the previous two weeks or rather month

01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:17.319
and this time it looks like they've pretty much done it again they have

01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:21.160
added 20,000 and they have a total of 44,000 subscribers so they're growing

01:05:19.359 --> 01:05:24.720
extremely quickly so someone likes something that they're doing

01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:35.200
this is this is funny I've got kgh HT 222 in the twitch chat saying that the

01:05:32.760 --> 01:05:40.799
uh the $60 a month for 54 Club is an average of $2 a day for clothing I doubt

01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:46.599
even Bill Gates spends $800 a year on clothing Bill Gates I don't think he

01:05:43.279 --> 01:05:48.839
really on top of of that fashion thing

01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:54.000
or I don't think he even cares I think Bill Gates probably spends more than

01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:56.799
$800 a year on clothing I think he's he

01:05:54.000 --> 01:06:00.839
might be one of those people who buys like really expensive uh polos that are

01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:09.960
like bulletproof okay so I don't know I I wish I could meet

01:06:06.240 --> 01:06:12.559
Bill Gates Bill Gates meet me please

01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:17.480
yeah Bill Gates Bill if you're watching man you know we'd love to uh we'd love

01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.480
to have you on the show

01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:27.240
sometime people are really complaining about $60 a month for clothes like I no

01:06:24.640 --> 01:06:34.720
offense to people but clothes are kind of expensive if you care about like keep

01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:39.799
up well no you can look not homeless without spending all that much money but

01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:44.400
to keep up with anything it's kind of a lot of work all

01:06:42.720 --> 01:06:47.920
right so we are we are going to do it we are going to go unfiltered and have a

01:06:46.680 --> 01:06:53.880
look at what you guys have to say about 54 this will either be a great endorsement for the service or if you

01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:57.240
guys hate it then there'll be that um here we go

01:06:57.359 --> 01:07:06.480
is better than anyone they sent me clothes in the box without the face of

01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:08.559
Neptune got to love my socks all right

01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:12.480
Timothy says they have great clothing Dana says like all things I

01:07:11.079 --> 01:07:19.319
don't like the cost of shipping to Canada yes 54 is more expensive to ship

01:07:15.160 --> 01:07:21.520
to Canada okay Jacob Ingram says I just

01:07:19.319 --> 01:07:25.000
wanted to say you're pretty awesome edel I think you're skipping ahead Sam Palmer

01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:29.559
says I wish it was available in Australia would love to use the system

01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:34.400
ROM says love it thanks for recommending it and high

01:07:31.440 --> 01:07:39.720
Linus Le suggests that lonus do the boiling water challenge thanks Lew I

01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:45.720
jackass that's a thing um okay Amir says I really like

01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:51.119
the system but sadly I'm only 14 and constantly changing sizes actually I

01:07:48.640 --> 01:07:55.119
would see that as an advantage if you budget for it and you let cuz Okay the

01:07:53.279 --> 01:08:00.839
way 54 works is they have like a style advis who you work with directly and who

01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:05.279
handpicks your clothing every month so they actually have someone that you can

01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:11.920
contact and be like yo dog I Chang sizes so just throwing that out there it's

01:08:07.839 --> 01:08:15.559
interesting e0 says did it in 20

01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:17.199
seconds all right Brien asks try to make

01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:22.080
the service available in the UK short sweatpants and graphic T-shirts

01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:26.080
they don't have my style I like shorts sweatpants and graphic t-shirts is that

01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:31.199
a style I don't know that's sweatpants and graphic t-shirts are a style I think

01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:36.319
that might be your issue Sam says the guy who wears socks and

01:08:34.040 --> 01:08:42.719
sandwi I don't wear sweatpants have you ever seen me wear

01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:45.839
sweatpants I want to say you have but I

01:08:42.719 --> 01:08:48.199
think I did once I was really sick all

01:08:45.839 --> 01:08:53.000
right oh sometime well sometimes you walk around in pajamas I think not here

01:08:50.679 --> 01:08:57.920
recent oh at home yes I've actually done videos in my pajamas uh Jack says love

01:08:55.839 --> 01:09:00.920
the surface Brett says come to Australia okay I think we've given 54 enough

01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:05.839
screen time at this point they should be pretty they should be pretty happy cuz

01:09:02.799 --> 01:09:08.440
we've like blabbed about them forever um

01:09:05.839 --> 01:09:12.120
see this is the problem we always start talking about like the sponsor value ad

01:09:10.440 --> 01:09:16.520
and then it's like this is a good discussion

01:09:13.759 --> 01:09:19.440
topic clothes are overrated all right I'm letting you deal with this one it

01:09:17.759 --> 01:09:22.759
was originally posted by Mushi on the Forum and the original article is from

01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:30.040
computer andv video games.com but um Nintendo says goodbye

01:09:26.679 --> 01:09:31.239
to casual gamers what exactly here I'm

01:09:30.040 --> 01:09:36.679
just going to bring up the article before I hand you the laptop that's what it looks like what exactly do they mean

01:09:35.120 --> 01:09:41.480
by that well who that didn't

01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:45.960
work oh which didn't work the the article

01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:51.719
thing up oh no no that's okay the article's gone well

01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:53.440
apparently uh because smartphones and

01:09:51.719 --> 01:09:59.679
apple in particular is taking

01:09:56.080 --> 01:10:03.480
over the uh casual gaming Market they

01:09:59.679 --> 01:10:07.560
don't really see a need to

01:10:03.480 --> 01:10:10.040
to okay noad to uh keep to keep making

01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:14.280
games for the Casual gaming Market which makes sense because you'd be competing

01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:21.719
with people who don't really want to play games anyway unless it's convenient

01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:25.320
so I like the direction they're going with this I don't like it at all why not

01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:31.600
you look at one of their most SU successful products in the last 10 years

01:10:28.120 --> 01:10:33.600
the DS the DS was all about the Casual

01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:40.000
experience for me I played more bomber man on my DS than anything

01:10:36.320 --> 01:10:43.320
else but you've also played games like

01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:45.199
uh what is it Bravely Default yes how

01:10:43.320 --> 01:10:50.679
did you like that bra default was good until it completely crapped the bed

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:57.600
okay but okay let's ask the chat how many of

01:10:53.480 --> 01:11:00.520
you guys are or like casual

01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:07.320
games on nintend okay here do you guys think Nintendo still has a contribution

01:11:03.679 --> 01:11:09.560
to make to Casual games or should they

01:11:07.320 --> 01:11:14.000
focus on the stuff that looks casual in terms of the art style like Mario Kart

01:11:11.320 --> 01:11:19.040
and smash BRS but is actually extremely hardcore in terms of the game balancing

01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:21.760
and the game playay so there why don't we do straw pull here do you want to

01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:25.000
fire up do you know how straw pull works yeah yeah make up make up a straw pull I

01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:28.360
want to I want to hear from you guys does Nintendo still have a contribution

01:11:26.719 --> 01:11:34.159
to make or do you just want them to focus on what I mean really they're very

01:11:31.679 --> 01:11:37.520
good at you know Zelda I would make the argument that in spite of how cartoony

01:11:36.120 --> 01:11:42.480
something like okarina of time might have looked is definitely a gamer title

01:11:40.440 --> 01:11:47.960
not a casual title

01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:49.920
okay um go ahead and post that you just

01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:54.480
have to kind of spam it a little bit and do the permissive vote yeah there you go

01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:05.800
I'm totally I have I have one more straw poll in mind before the end of the show

01:12:02.360 --> 01:12:08.840
that I'm totally going to Blindside you

01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:11.400
with it's going to be fun all right spam

01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:20.920
spam spam what people say okarina is cartoony uh yeah come on little

01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:22.440
fairy where did I put that H disappeared

01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:29.080
yeah the twitch chat just moves really fast I mean my straw tab

01:12:25.679 --> 01:12:31.679
there we go boom JJJ says lonus do you

01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:36.679
see this no all right let's go ahead and screen

01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:41.880
share here so you mentioned Mario and Super Smash Brothers yeah I love Super

01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:47.639
Mario Kart I play it with the ncx guys like every week and then like we go to

01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:49.840
Chris's and then play it some more uh

01:12:47.639 --> 01:12:56.560
that's definitely not a casual game just cuz I know it's freaking

01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:59.520
hard and it's great love it I I probably

01:12:56.560 --> 01:13:06.719
spend more play more time playing Super Mario Kart than Mario Mario Kart yeah

01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:13.239
sorry that's what I started with the Super Mario Kart on

01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:16.159
SNES I on consoles I've played that more

01:13:13.239 --> 01:13:22.480
than any other game on a console really yes that much yeah so would you say that

01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:27.760
okay so because the the wi's whole value ad was supposed to be we fit and wi

01:13:25.400 --> 01:13:33.400
Sports terrible flinging the wi mode around okay so that that was the we so

01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:37.080
so if Nintendo's direction is okay Wii U

01:13:33.400 --> 01:13:41.360
we're going to go back to 1080p 60 FPS

01:13:37.080 --> 01:13:42.880
and hardcore titles could you be sold a

01:13:41.360 --> 01:13:51.159
Wii U if they made more hardcore titles yeah

01:13:46.639 --> 01:13:53.560
if they did more Mario Kart class titles

01:13:51.159 --> 01:14:02.199
on the Wii U would you consider buying one if no one else in my like group of

01:13:57.440 --> 01:14:04.960
friends had a wiu then yes like honestly

01:14:02.199 --> 01:14:08.760
for Mario Kart I would just buy a Wii U just for Mario Kart it's a really good

01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:14.239
party game okay so that's so that's it that's

01:14:12.040 --> 01:14:18.520
the issue then because okay from so from a business is kind of an issue because

01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:23.040
from a business standpoint if the objective is to sell more copies of the

01:14:20.280 --> 01:14:29.520
game and more consoles are they going to be doing themselves any favors by

01:14:25.320 --> 01:14:32.000
eliminating casual games in favor of I

01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:39.239
mean arguably the two examples that we came up with of great Nintendo hardcore

01:14:35.880 --> 01:14:39.239
titles party

01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:42.520
games

01:14:43.040 --> 01:14:49.400
well so are you're asking whether or not

01:14:46.360 --> 01:14:52.760
it's better for Nintendo to make party

01:14:49.400 --> 01:14:56.000
games and sell fewer consoles than

01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:57.880
casual games and sell more like yeah but

01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:02.360
do you have any stats for that no no I don't no I don't I'm just saying that it

01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:07.760
feels like a problem that the titles that you and I are discussing that could

01:15:04.400 --> 01:15:09.480
sell the console to us are titles that

01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:12.679
really only one person within a group of friends really needs to own unless

01:15:11.480 --> 01:15:17.800
you're going to be unless you're going to be one of those people like Luke who sits and practices Mario Kart so that

01:15:16.360 --> 01:15:22.480
when everyone comes and plays with him he just wrecks everybody those people

01:15:20.400 --> 01:15:29.280
are bad people by the way people who practice party games no I think bad

01:15:25.320 --> 01:15:32.199
people Anthony and Chris probably Jack

01:15:29.280 --> 01:15:39.560
Me Maybe too probably better than uh Luke at uh Mario Kart really yeah even

01:15:37.040 --> 01:15:43.760
though you didn't know the name of the game Mario Cart doesn't matter if

01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:49.040
there's super on there or an eight on the end same thing same thing okay and

01:15:46.719 --> 01:15:53.320
actually uh Chris's girlfriend amazing at Super Nintendo's uh Mario Kart really

01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:57.239
yeah ridiculous all right all right well you

01:15:55.560 --> 01:16:01.520
know what we will have to do we will have to do some game streaming sometime

01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:05.760
uh sometime maybe we'll go over to Luke's house or something or um yeah we

01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:10.320
could yeah we'll play some to bring all no we'll play some Mario Kart I have a

01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:11.400
land PC no no Mario Kart oh marioart

01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:18.639
you'll have to show us your you'll have to show us your skills we we'll have to see how that goes you know what's funny

01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:20.600
though is we could actually do PC game

01:16:18.639 --> 01:16:29.120
streaming from the office now everybody's work machine is now

01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:31.800
legit a legit gaming rig I need to SLI

01:16:29.120 --> 01:16:37.639
that oh yeah we never put an SLI bridge in your machine well in theory you

01:16:33.360 --> 01:16:37.639
wouldn't need it whatever I

01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:44.840
need have you played Battlefield have I played Battlefield 4

01:16:43.120 --> 01:16:49.400
yeah not really I played a little bit of the single player and got Bor can I borrow those the Titans you want to

01:16:48.040 --> 01:16:57.239
borrow the Titans how are you going to get them out of the machine scissors yeah that's what I

01:16:52.880 --> 01:17:00.760
thought no absolutely not so ised the

01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:03.880
first time uh last week with uh S Dual

01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:08.239
770s Battlefield is running all right

01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:10.600
but I am using a 2-year-old 8150 that

01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:14.920
lonus gave me for free when I started interning for him at NCI ex Tech tip

01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:21.920
that was like two years ago yeah it was wow yeah and apparently the 8150 is

01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:25.560
bottled necking my two Sly cards yeah

01:17:21.920 --> 01:17:29.199
that 8150 was uh that was like that was

01:17:25.560 --> 01:17:31.960
like the uh the the the [ __ ] chip even

01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:39.199
then and you gave it to me for for my hard work yeah thanks lonus hey you got

01:17:35.760 --> 01:17:42.600
RAM and a motherboard and I'm pretty

01:17:39.199 --> 01:17:45.000
sure a GPU at some point so yeah it

01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:52.199
wasn't all it wasn't all terrible all right so Razer cortex their

01:17:48.719 --> 01:17:54.480
Deal's video game tracker is now in this

01:17:52.199 --> 01:18:00.159
is in Early Access right now correct yep all right so basically bye David bye

01:17:57.639 --> 01:18:06.880
David so basically one of the best things about being a PC Gamer you know

01:18:02.639 --> 01:18:10.360
just ask PC Gamers there is no

01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:12.639
$59.99 I mean there is for like two days

01:18:10.360 --> 01:18:16.440
or if it's South Park Stick of Truth man that hurt I didn't buy that till like

01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:22.400
months after release and it was still $59.99 anyway there's no such thing as

01:18:19.239 --> 01:18:26.880
sticker price there's always a deal so

01:18:22.400 --> 01:18:29.120
Razer has their new cortex game Deal

01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:33.000
tracker it scours the internet tirelessly to let you know of price drop

01:18:31.320 --> 01:18:38.199
sweet deals and exciting promotions on your favorite game so you'll never miss

01:18:34.440 --> 01:18:39.880
out on another bargain so you can sign

01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:44.080
up for Early Access and check it out it's in beta and currently comparing

01:18:41.639 --> 01:18:47.080
prices exclusively in the US region and other regions will come after launch but

01:18:46.080 --> 01:18:53.880
that is something that you guys are definitely going to want to check out have you have you signed up no I haven't

01:18:51.400 --> 01:18:59.920
really are you going to I have so many things running already

01:18:55.360 --> 01:19:02.239
ready and I like I like steam uh that's

01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:06.600
what I thought about it I thought you know looking at all these features it

01:19:04.480 --> 01:19:12.560
looks like Steam and GeForce experience it has like

01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:20.239
a the game optimizing tool yeah and it like defrags your system which I already

01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:23.560
do it like prioritize prioritizes uh

01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:24.880
things so would you even fire it up to

01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:31.440
see if there was a deal before you bought a game on Steam or would you just blindly buy it on Steam because you find

01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:37.400
the steam experience so much better well like depends on how it works is it going

01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:39.239
to send me to any number of dozen sites

01:19:37.400 --> 01:19:44.840
like I don't want to make a new account for for a site every time a deal comes

01:19:42.120 --> 01:19:51.159
up and it's like on a different site like one reason I buy games off steam is

01:19:48.360 --> 01:19:56.560
that it's on Steam yeah you know there's my steam wallet it's just right there or

01:19:54.199 --> 01:20:00.679
EA origin store Ubisoft store I don't buy anything on

01:19:57.679 --> 01:20:03.080
there uh you know it's like it's right

01:20:00.679 --> 01:20:06.600
there it's convenient whereas Razer doesn't have their store like what how

01:20:04.920 --> 01:20:09.520
are they going to do this I'm really interested to try it out I'm going to

01:20:08.080 --> 01:20:15.440
install it I'm going to try it out and then I'll I'll see how it goes from there maybe it'll be a disaster but I

01:20:13.320 --> 01:20:21.199
mean Razer has shown that they're pretty serious about building software that

01:20:17.760 --> 01:20:23.960
makes gaming better I mean comms is a

01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:27.040
great example of that they saw a gap and they're like okay we're going to build

01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:31.800
something that legitimately addresses the need that people have so I'm

01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:37.400
interested to check this out funny that you should mention comms Dolby axen uh

01:20:34.520 --> 01:20:43.239
wasn't working like several times last week uh the crew and I use Dolby axen

01:20:40.440 --> 01:20:49.239
yep so we actually used the Razer comms it's I think it has more features than I

01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:52.040
remember and it's kind of nice now yeah

01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:56.320
got to say yep they've improved a lot it's not bad um okay we've got a couple

01:20:54.400 --> 01:21:00.000
more more topics Before We Say Goodbye because it's quarter after 6 already

01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:03.280
here uh Microsoft claims they are starting to crack down on fake apps in

01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:07.760
the Windows store this was originally posted by Sherman taker on the Forum and

01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:13.719
the article's from The Verge and basically Microsoft says they reached

01:21:10.280 --> 01:21:16.040
out to devs and told them that they have

01:21:13.719 --> 01:21:20.120
to make their Dev their their apps compliant with their new guidelines

01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:25.199
which or that it can't have an icon that's too close to something that is

01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:30.120
not representative of what it is um I think there were a couple of other

01:21:27.040 --> 01:21:33.199
things but basically there have been

01:21:30.120 --> 01:21:36.040
devs that are just like swift key for

01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:40.400
example if you go to the swift key you know what not the swift key devs I'm

01:21:38.080 --> 01:21:43.560
going to yeah not the swift key devs but if you search for swift key in the

01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:48.480
Windows store I'm going to try it now I've screenshotted it from before but

01:21:45.719 --> 01:21:53.960
let's let's do a live test of whether a scam app that I

01:21:50.199 --> 01:21:57.760
found um swift key keyboard has eight

01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:59.600
ratings for one star that is a $4 app

01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:02.679
the award-winning app for Android that replaces your onscreen keyboard giving

01:22:01.280 --> 01:22:08.960
you the fastest and easiest way to type now in Windows phone uh let's have a look at the

01:22:06.239 --> 01:22:13.280
reviews eight ratings where are the reviews here we go scam artist do not

01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:17.320
purchase this this is fake very unhappy fake app for $4 this is fake this app

01:22:15.440 --> 01:22:24.000
does nothing so apparently they've removed

01:22:20.440 --> 01:22:27.360
1500 apps based on how many scam apps I

01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:29.719
found over the last little bit um yeah

01:22:27.360 --> 01:22:34.239
that's probably not enough uh developers who refuse to comply with Microsoft's

01:22:32.600 --> 01:22:39.360
new guidelines are getting them removed but I think they've still got a lot more

01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:43.560
work to do but they're taking steps forward so that's good they're

01:22:41.360 --> 01:22:47.679
acknowledging the problem that's all I'm giving them credit for at this point

01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:56.320
well they they're also dealing with it sort of I mean the one that the one I

01:22:51.960 --> 01:22:59.000
tested is still there so we'll see um

01:22:56.320 --> 01:23:03.639
originally posted by deliv on the Forum the original article here that he's

01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:10.800
referring to is from Hardware 360 and allegedly Microsoft will offer the

01:23:06.120 --> 01:23:13.880
Windows 9 upgrade either free or for

01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:16.760
$20 so Microsoft will also have an

01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:21.159
awesome offer for Windows XP users to be clear that price is for Windows 8.1

01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:28.760
users another tidbit is that the Enterprise Windows 9 is rumored to be

01:23:24.679 --> 01:23:32.600
completely metr free so Metro is the

01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:34.840
modern UI you know this one yay I can

01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:40.679
scroll back and forth except I don't want to do that okay um so cheap Windows

01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:43.719
upgrade offers aren't unprecedented they have done this kind of thing before the

01:23:42.040 --> 01:23:50.400
Windows store not the Windows phone store maybe uh I believe they are

01:23:47.080 --> 01:23:52.360
actually integrating them uh moving

01:23:50.400 --> 01:23:55.840
forward so I'm not sure I think there's some stuff that's in both or whatever

01:23:54.600 --> 01:24:01.880
the case may be either way they have to address both of them they need to acknowledge the problem everywhere uh

01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:06.560
you guys should put sponsors below the stream actually that's not a bad idea we

01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:10.239
probably should do that at some point all right well I think that pretty much

01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:16.560
wraps it up for the show today although I have one more straw poll for you guys

01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:19.239
before we go I'm just going to create it

01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:25.520
I'm going to put poor edel on the spot what did you think of

01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.880
edel's guest co-host

01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:33.360
spot all right let's come up with some options here I think it got better towards the end 10 out of 10 amazing

01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:39.840
would uh would love to have him again okay

01:24:37.480 --> 01:24:46.320
let's go with five out of 10 uh got better towards the

01:24:43.360 --> 01:24:52.639
end and one out of 10 very why you doing it out of 10 if

01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:58.199
there's if there are only three options and zero out of 10

01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:59.719
L okay well so basically basically I'm

01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:04.840
setting you up for I'm setting you up for failure here and I'm also saving you

01:25:03.159 --> 01:25:08.239
from potentially their devastating negative feedback because you know

01:25:06.679 --> 01:25:14.719
they're going to go with zero out of 10 just for the lws I've gotten used to

01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:14.719
negative feedback yeah we all

01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:24.119
have do you really just Spam it like that yeah that way everyone sees it

01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:28.840
edzel is too autistic Ed is too autistic wow wow speaking of getting used to all

01:25:26.639 --> 01:25:33.960
the negative feedback autism actually isn't a thing anymore apparently it's

01:25:30.639 --> 01:25:35.119
been just brought back into the uh oh no

01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:39.159
I'm thinking Asbergers you're thinking asers yeah as autism is definitely a

01:25:37.679 --> 01:25:43.880
thing yeah that's definitely a thing I think Asbergers has been brought back

01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.520
under the autism umbrella yeah lus

01:25:43.880 --> 01:25:51.600
screen share 10 out of 10 amazing would love to have him again has half of the

01:25:48.639 --> 01:25:57.920
votes with 21% of the votes being five out of 10 got better towards the end oh

01:25:54.440 --> 01:25:57.920
there's a fair bit of zero out of 10

01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:04.320
LW and 9% say one out of 10 very

01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:09.440
unfortunate that Luke isn't here so it actually looks like the reaction to uh

01:26:06.719 --> 01:26:15.159
to your co-hosting job today has been pretty darn positive so good job uh

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content thanks for tuning in guys and we'll see you again next

01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:50.800
week I need a laptop yeah you really

01:26:48.360 --> 01:26:55.719
need a laptop that that hurt you big time being able to see the topics and

01:26:53.880 --> 01:27:01.040
like you could say like yeah I just forget how good

01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:05.520
that looks I know I love this thing I did a good job with that oh should we uh

01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:11.560
should we show them the uh the vinyl stickers oh yeah okay okay very short

01:27:09.360 --> 01:27:14.880
very short after party here we're going to we're going to go get are you going

01:27:13.080 --> 01:27:18.880
to grab them yeah okay I'll grab these ones if you want to grab at least one

01:27:16.440 --> 01:27:18.880
from the other

01:27:21.360 --> 01:27:27.600
room so we got these awesome

01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:32.760
ah don't break please we got these awesome vinyl stickers for the walls

01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:37.360
here uh this has a paper covering over the top of it so that's why it looks so

01:27:34.320 --> 01:27:39.199
faded but it's like um I don't even

01:27:37.360 --> 01:27:45.080
remember what color it is is this a is this white an orange are you sure I

01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:48.520
think so no it's like a gray it's like an off-white oh it is white no it's

01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:56.119
white it's white so it's a white and orange Linus Tech tips that we have for

01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:57.159
one of the walls and then uh also did up

01:27:56.119 --> 01:28:01.639
yeah baby when stealth

01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:06.960
logo so we're going to put that on one of the walls in the office and finally

01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:11.600
yeah bro fist can they see it yep

01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:18.320
sweet there you go

01:28:15.040 --> 01:28:19.600
um I actually have uh we've put up one

01:28:18.320 --> 01:28:24.159
actually here do you want to take roist and W stealth away before they get

01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:27.960
damaged it's not faded it just has like a sheet of paper yeah there's a paper

01:28:26.320 --> 01:28:32.920
covering over it to keep the multiple pieces in place here I'm uh I got them

01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:36.480
together there we go um actually I have uh an example of what they're going to

01:28:34.400 --> 01:28:42.880
look like on the wall so check this out you guys it's freaking

01:28:39.719 --> 01:28:45.480
awesome I think so anyway so this is a

01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:54.239
sneak preview of what the whole room water cooling setup looks like so

01:28:49.080 --> 01:28:57.560
far if my uh if my stupid

01:28:54.239 --> 01:28:59.880
Dropbox would automatically upload okay

01:28:57.560 --> 01:29:03.760
or we could just go to edel's Twitter uh or we could go to edel's

01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:07.280
Twitter do you have a shot of the deal and the uh and the piping and the

01:29:05.080 --> 01:29:13.199
systems in from just now I have like a bunch of features uh okay you try to do

01:29:10.400 --> 01:29:19.639
that while I try to do this and whoever does it first is a

01:29:16.639 --> 01:29:19.639
winner

01:29:19.719 --> 01:29:28.000
okay um so I'm like mailing to myself

01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:32.119
because Apple's I took the picture on my iPhone Apple's thing is like ah boom

01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:38.520
super Broken Oh this is your Panorama oh okay

01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:41.719
yeah that should be good okay oh you

01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:44.679
broke it actually I might like my shot

01:29:41.719 --> 01:29:51.000
better no I'm opening my picture okay I'll show this one first okay so there

01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:53.560
we go uh do you want to just get rid of

01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:57.719
us okay so that's a panorama shot of the office

01:29:54.840 --> 01:30:02.800
um basically you can see this is edel's workstation Brandon's workstation here's

01:30:00.360 --> 01:30:07.520
the copper piping coming down for each of the systems this one's going to be

01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:11.440
for um the potential new employee who I'm going to hear back from this weekend

01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:15.920
this is for taran's workstation this is an extra this is for my workstation and

01:30:13.639 --> 01:30:21.800
here are the vinyl decal on the wall and then here I'm just going to switch back

01:30:18.119 --> 01:30:24.320
to this so that I can go into my email

01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:29.719
without oh I just heard from Chris from NC NC challenges lonus Tech tips to

01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:35.520
Mario Kart they watching I guess we should have known that was

01:30:31.719 --> 01:30:37.719
coming can I be on their team

01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:41.679
no what do you think this is you're going to abandon us in our hour of need

01:30:40.639 --> 01:30:48.920
they're better

01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:51.520
wow wow it's not it this is about family

01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:57.280
this is not well okay if we want to talk about family I do game with them pretty

01:30:54.360 --> 01:31:02.280
much every night uhhuh with uh voice chant all

01:30:59.080 --> 01:31:05.639
versus just working over

01:31:02.280 --> 01:31:08.199
here yeah so someone says I should fire

01:31:05.639 --> 01:31:10.840
edel actually no one said that that was just what I was

01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:16.880
thinking oh I can't even believe you anyway so this is uh this is a not

01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:23.600
panorama shot which I personally find a little bit easier to digest cuz I'm old

01:31:19.719 --> 01:31:25.800
of uh this is teran's water cooled

01:31:23.600 --> 01:31:30.159
system right here oh you took that like recently this is the extra uh here's my

01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:35.719
machine over in the corner running off of this one and then we've got bro fist

01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:38.639
and when stealth sort of centered look

01:31:35.719 --> 01:31:44.440
at much extra space whatever uh sort of centered on the wall in there so yeah

01:31:41.440 --> 01:31:47.199
love it those pipes look sketchy what

01:31:44.440 --> 01:31:51.639
looks sketchy about them oh maybe that's stuff oh that's just a that's a label

01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:57.080
yeah it's no big deal these are copper pipes that were soldered by Luke's dads

01:31:53.960 --> 01:31:58.880
so need to be painted needs to be

01:31:57.080 --> 01:32:04.880
painted I don't want to paint them I like the copper Co yeah we have um like

01:32:02.719 --> 01:32:09.159
can we polish it somehow yes okay uh Luke's dad gave us this um this stuff

01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:14.320
that we can use to polish it quite quickly and then we're planning to paint

01:32:12.280 --> 01:32:18.400
uh a varnish layer over the top so that they really shine I'm uh I'm super

01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:23.719
stoked going to look awesome all right guys thanks for watching peace out see

01:32:20.360 --> 01:32:23.719
you next week