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okay I got this i got this i got this under control this is what happens when

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uh all right twitch chat I'm sorry we're done with the technical

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difficulties for now all right so our first news topic this week and this is

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Marcus UK so the article here is from

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Gamespot and Amazon acquires Twitch in A1 billion deal see Gamespot agrees with

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me $1 billion now this flies in the face of

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the original rumors that YouTube was going to acquire twitch and we were

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actually talking about this in the car on the way back from the office the

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other day and I think the Amazon

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acquisition makes sense but I think you were saying that YouTube might have been

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a more might have been a more sensible option depending on Whose perspective

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we're talking about so I think it's better that Amazon bot

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twitch just because you don't have that Consolidated of uh with regard to videoing I was just

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playing Devil's Advocate because Google

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has acquired a ton of things and they haven't really ruined them except for

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like ways and what else I think there are people

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the Indie vibe that YouTube had going on at the beginning but honestly I think it

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going to have to figure out a monetization model it's just that Google

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figured that out and YouTube might have come to a very similar conclusion on

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their own if they had stayed independent except that they might not have been

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able to ever build the kind of infrastructure to support you know HD

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and now 4K that Google has managed to build to back it up IIT s you trying to

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say that YouTube was ruined or wasn't I'm trying to say some people say it is

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has been great for Content creators and it's been pretty darn good with some

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obvious hiccups like the recent go plus integration and that's not being

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consumers yeah and the fact that we can't upload anything right now but by

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and large it's better than it used to be I mean I used to have issues uploading

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files all the time now it's like weird

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when it happens apparently I look awkward you look awkward I think we both

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but so what would you have seen happening then if Google acquired twitch

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reason not to tamper with anything just

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because who else really understands game streaming besides switch and isubu TV

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who else now that's it that's pretty much it so they can't really bring in

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their own experience just because they don't have that experience so I think by

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have been the little brother of YouTube and the YouTube Team could claim to have

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a lot of experience with game streamers because typically archived content even

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from Big Game streamers will do better on YouTube over the long term than it

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delete to well to try to delete most of people's old footage unless they're

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saving it as a highlight reel cuz no one's really watching it it's just

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taking up space I watch it okay you watch it but but would it kill you to go

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tournaments uh when they're not in the right time zone and or like if I just

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miss it so I'll usually go to that twitch broadcast channel and watch the

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the vods on there whereas I would have to like YouTube and

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streaming technology that twitch has been using I don't know if I buy that I

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mean Amazon's already got their on demand video it's not like they don't

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helping them to do what they're doing but having actually chatted with someone

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demanding which happens to be exactly what Amazon has and that's why that's a

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marriage made in heaven and mind you it's much the in much the same way that

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quity and reliability of the streams so

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that I'm trying to listen to you and that's the best way to listen you're

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trying to listen to me that's your first mistake yeah I'm just going to to zoom this in a little

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because the camera's crooked I look super tall which is not the cas at all

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grown up because I look old because I am

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super super tired this week it has been a crazy week uh should we talk about it

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a little bit your baby no not my baby

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the the week we've had what would you know about my baby uh

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no name yeah actually we have named her

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now really yes I basically just gave up

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and yvon went with it no I I'm not going to I don't reveal the kids names on uh I

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don't reveal the kids names on the stream or anything it's wona yeah it's

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not it's not wona but uh yeah been we

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have named the baby so we came in on

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arts and crafts wait Monday really yeah

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yeah we got started Monday I think wait what no it's it was supposed to be 3

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days and today was the fourth wasn't it

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oh yeah you're right what did we do

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yet whoa what did we this week feels like

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it's been two weeks have we been at this for five days no no no no no I don't

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think so okay anyway the point is let's say

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Tuesday let's assume it was Tuesday Tuesday Morning um we tore apart the

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office office so all the workstation PCS all the editing machines we tore them

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out of the office and Scattered them throughout the building because there

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was no space for anything we piled all the desks in the middle and Nick and I

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painted the room then um so what were

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you doing on the first day I don't remember like

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I what which was the first day was it Monday or Tuesday Tuesday let's say it

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day Luke was drilling holes into things

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right so the cases we picked needed to

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have two holes drilled in the top of each of them before we could actually

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install any hardware because there was a clearance issue with the radiators in

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spite of our pre-planning that we hoped was going to work so Luke spent a lot of

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time doing that on the first day and then I started building some of the

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computers putting processors on motherboards you helped with that

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installing RAM power supply power supply that was first day yeah that was first

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day and then second day we did we finish

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the computers the second day I think second day we did liquid cooling yeah so

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we finished building the PCS which when it's five PCS is actually somewhat timec

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consuming especially when lonus gets abandoned by Luke so that he can test

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Intel's new fourth gen processors that second day cuz lukee helped on the first

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day yeah I think we're I think we're getting this it's all been a blur we've

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taken so much video and you promised

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that the videos about this are going to be awesome right uh now you're on the spot you

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asked if they would be good not awesome and I said I would make it good okay I

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guess that's what we're going to have to uh to go with we've got people

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complaining about audio sync issues again but the reality of it is guys is I

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think it's just just one of those things where yeah it's nothing to do with mine

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is just broken da no no no those are out those were released today the all new

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fourth gen 8 Core Extreme Edition all that good stuff so

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um would it help if I put the computer here so

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that I told you it looked like I was staring at your crotch okay if I put the

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computer here maybe that'll maybe that'll help a little bit um so on the

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second day we finished building the computers and I don't know whether it's

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because Swift Tech's fittings are super tight or their tubing is a little bit

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big when the weather's really hot but we were having a lot of trouble getting

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fittings on and those computers took

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more than a full day of working to

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install fittings in and install tubing in so then after that that's when Nick

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the house right I don't know about that part just because I was busy fiddling

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with the fittings the entire time yeah Ed was the one we I actually didn't even

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know how swift teex quick disconnects worked and Ed was the one who figured

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out that we have to what does it come with it comes with a socket a G1 quarter

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socket and then we have to put an end cap on instead right yeah yeah how did I

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even figure that out I think I may have just been trying

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to undo the quick disconnect and then I

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couldn't figure that out and just twisting it things came off and I may

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have picked up the wrong piece and tried to put that on but it worked out yeah

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yeah so we figured that out and then through during that time Nick was uh

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realizing along with me that our original plan for mounting the radiators

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on the fascia board like under the roof overhang was not going to work it was

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way too big big and way too heavy like

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that Biz was not happening so Nick had

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the roof and I think that was what we did on the third day we mounted the

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radiator to the roof in the

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morning third day was wasn't that

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yesterday though yeah was that third day yeah we mounted the radiator yesterday

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and then today four days what do on Monday the afternoon yesterday and

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today we have filled the loop now a

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total of three times due to various leaking and configuration

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issues so that's been our week this week uh we can move on to actually I'm going

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to try to uh I'm going to try to upload this file again just because you know I

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can I can have a dream that maybe YouTube won't be broken uh the radiator

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cooked yeah we were actually kind of fortunate that there was somewhere

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sensible to put that because that wasn't

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necessarily um a thing that we plannned

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why is the piping not in the wall no way

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Firefox is working and chrome isn't for

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brilliant freaking jokes man jokes man

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are we even using the Steed water no we're not right nope yeah it's just from

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the hose yeah it's from the hose cuz that was how the only way we were able

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to fill it um so lonus went up on the

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ladder radiator we brought up a hose

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into the bathroom and fill it that way this might

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wrong yeah so that was the only way we could even get water into it because we

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are not using a closed system it's not

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sealed we actually have like a a fill

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tube that goes up above the highest

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level of the of the piping that's in the room so the only way to get any in there

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cuz there's no room to even pour is to put the hose in because if we brought it

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down any lower as soon as the pump stops

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the system would back up and pour water

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which we discovered the hard way once we discovered that it wasn't quite high

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enough were you there for that no I I think I was outside oh no it poured

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water all over me ah yeah I have gotten sprayed with water quite a few times in

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the last few days it has been extremely exciting

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all right so why don't we move on to our next topic here NVIDIA will allegedly

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skip 800 Series Desktop cards and the

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next generation will be called 900

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series this was posted by Rock 1 M1

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originally on the lus tech tips Forum so

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I guess do you want to give the basic facts here why don't we just if you put

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your leg down Wen really we can put this on both of our our legs then we can both

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look like we're staring at each other it was just like room so there's not much

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to talk about yeah so the fact is the rumor is that in order to align with

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what was it the notebook naming scheme they were going to name the notebook

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line G9 or was it GTX 900 yeah or 900m

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but then they thought that it would be confusing because the desktop was still

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on 700 and the notebooks are the

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notebooks were rebranded 800 a little while ago so they're in this weird

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position where they've they've done this at times I mean they've done it right

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now where the notebook ones are a series

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ahead of the desktop ones even though they're running this completely the same

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architecture um but I guess if they

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found themselves two gens ahead on mobile that might get extremely

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confusing and then or if they're planning to refresh both at the same

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time then now's a good time to just kind of skip one and catch up it's not the

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first time they've done it there was never a GTX 380 was that just for mobile uh no there

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was never I don't think there was ever a GTX 300 series at all cuz we got yeah

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they scrapped that yeah yeah I think the the rumor was they just completely

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scrapped the project entirely well the announcement will come

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rumored come on September 9th wow that's

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really soon we've got a lot of stuff going on right now with all the new

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Intel stuff uh ddr4 so our first video

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about the uh in the NVIDIA about the Intel Haswell e 8 Core Extreme Edition

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will actually be coming I think Tuesday

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night so Luke has run all the benchmarks I've scripted the video but we haven't

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had a single video editing workstation up and running in order laptop to

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actually make it so well there was a laptop but we were using that to make

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the videos that we've released over the last couple days so yeah there's been no

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time but guys this thing is a beast

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Intel has finally done it they have

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caught up to the mainstream platform I mean I don't know about the rest of you

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but I have found it extremely frustrating that for must be about 5

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years now you've been able to get better technology by buying into a mainstream

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platform than by buying into an Enthusiast platform I mean what's the

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deal with that and we're not even just talking about CPU architecture so ever

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since the uh the LGA 1156 LGA 1366 days

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ever since then you've been able to get you know things like um Quicks sync

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technology for quick video transcoding you've been able to get more usb3 ports

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native usb3 ports more native SATA 3

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connectors or even native SATA 3 connectors at all back in the x58 days

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like Thunderbolt all this new technology has been coming to the mainstream LGA

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1155 and LGA 1150 platforms before we

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get it on LGA 2011 well now all of that

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changes there is actually a justifiable

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reason to go LGA 20113 so the CPUs are all more course I

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mean that was supposed to be a big selling point even back with x58 was it

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can support more than four cores we had six cores the problem is that the only

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one on the in the consumer space was the 980x it was a and the

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990x and zons I guess but these are not

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these are not really consumer grade price points they were thousand CPUs so

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everyone just went with quad course on the mainstream platform because a few

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more PCI Express Lanes in triple Channel or quad Channel memory is not enough to

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justify a CPU architecture that is inherently anywhere from 8 to 15% slower

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depending on which generational Gap we're looking at regardless of how much

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memory bandwidth it has so now with LG

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20113 we are getting the same CPU

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architecture so it's Haswell or Haswell e but basically Haswell e is just

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Haswell with more Hells we are getting

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ddr4 which right now is very expensive

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for not much of a performance gain but in the future will give us much higher

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speed memory we're getting sad Channel memory we're getting more PCI Express

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Lanes so 40 on the highend chips and then I believe don't quote me on this I

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believe it's either 26 or 28 PCI Express Lanes on the lower end chip we're

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getting the same feature set so we can get Thunderbolt enabled motherboards

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which is really awesome like the x99 deluxe from ASUS has that Thunderbolt

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header so you can add their Thunderbolt 2 expansion card we are getting the

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works and it is what's

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up now are uh saying I'm quiet oh you're

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quiet sorry kind of got on the whole Intel quation I'm on kind of a thing

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because the problem with LGA 2011 was

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there was one CPU that was Within Reach

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for general consumers and it was either the 382k or the 4820k for the last

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couple of generations the problem was that was a quad core chip it was a

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quadcore chip that was more expensive on a more expensive platform form with more

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expensive RAM for literally no performance Improvement unless you

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really need the extra memory bandwidth or you really need a few more PCI

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Express Lanes which most people don't need unless they also need more

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processing cores so in order to even get

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a sensible configuration on LGA 2011 you were spending $600 plus dollars on your

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chip not exactly uh compelling sort of

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you know gamer type of price point well

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now on LGA 2011 3 for around 400 bucks

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you can get a six core so all of a sudden the entire Intel lineup makes

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sense again so on the mainstream you got quad cores up to nice high clocked ones

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like their new Devil's Canyon the 4790k then you pay another I guess it's

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around another $75 to $100 you get two

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more cores plus a more robust more

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Enthusiast grade platform and ddr4 support then beyond that you get a few

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more PCI Express Lanes although I think that lower end one is going to be the

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more appealing one for most enthusiasts and then at the very high end there's

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the extreme Edition the whole thing finally makes sense again so that's what

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I'm excited about and yeah we've got people talking

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about it in twitch chat that six core for 389 looks like a good CPU for the

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money damn right because even though single-threaded performance isn't going

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to be any better overclocking is solid

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ddr4 is going to help a little bit and if you need the extra cores like let's

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say you want to I don't know output videos while you game then you will have

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it someone says hire Luke back

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please lonus everyone is ignoring you and staring at

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edil Luke is not fired well not any more than he's

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usually fired Luke is at packs so he was

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driving last night and he's doing show coverage right now so he and Brandon are

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are doing a great job of that presumably

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they're asking him to poke me they always do this they do this with Luke

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too Luke poke lus why is this room so hot as if I'm not also looking at the

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twitch chat you know what this isn't nearly as hot as it usually is we have a

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fan blowing and we have the window open window's not open the window's not

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open oh you're going to want to open that window that explains why it's so hot in

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here

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oh I love this show all right so in other news that I

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suspect almost nobody cared about origin

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PC and AMD have officially made up so

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origin will once again give buyers the option to use AMD cards in their origin

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PCS this was posted by Juan Wu 26 on the

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Forum um did you even hear about this no

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but I read up on what the comments said and apparently origin PC just got butt

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hurt is that right just because they didn't uh they weren't informed by AMD

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about the Hawaii GPU launch okay so there's a couple of things

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um so rumor number one is that NVIDIA

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had a program where they paid origin

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copious amounts of money to not sell AMD

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but that's just a rumor but that is just a rumor um NVIDIA has come out and said

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that's not true um so that's all we know about that uh

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what I do know is that origin was not at the AMD Hawaii GPU

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event and main gear PC had a demo

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system up running Hawaii gpus at the

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event when origin did not allegedly have any access

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to said GPU so the rumor

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is that origin basically was super upset about that and was like what you don't

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want us to sell your gpus fine we're not going to sell your gpus anyway so

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apparently they have kissed and made up and uh AMD apologized which you know I

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think was probably merited cuz it's one thing if you invite

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you know all your system builder Partners to come and showcase their rigs

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it's another if you pick one favorite one and then leave all the others out or

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even one of the budget concern I don't

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think so I mean that Hawaii event cost a

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fortune maybe that's why there was a budget issue just getting everyone there

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they blew it all on lus wow I mean they had I think they had

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over aund Tech journalists at that

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event so they could have just not invited me and Austin and they could

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have probably afforded to have origin there and then this whole thing could

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have been avoided but who's more important really

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like me and Austin yeah or origin PC I

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think we have to do a straw pull straw pull time guys straw po do you want to

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see what I'm typing you can look at my crotch there we go who okay this is me

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looking at the laptop and this is me looking at his crotch this there's a

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difference lonus and Austin origin PC

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you know what's funny is we're actually going to be covering a really cool new

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product from origin at the show I'm not I'm not down on Origin at all they're

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cool guys they have great products it's just uh just having some fun at their

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expense right now all right here we go here we go I'm

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sorry you're not logged in yeah there you go what the

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deuce all right guys I'm sharing this with you

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now I'm trying to trying desperately to

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you know I'm actually really excited about the technological improvements

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that I think the Amazon acquisition is going to bring to Twitch what's what

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what do you think is going to change I think it will improve reliability

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because Amazon is reliable I mean

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AWS yeah is reliable except for those times that it has gone down and led to

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dozens of sites being offline okay when

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when AWS has a problem I think the new

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news about it gets Amplified I don't think that's because AWS has tons of

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problems compared to other services I think it's just that because they host

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so much it's a lot more noticeable when

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there's some kind of an issue I

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think I think that might be an issue in

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itself just because if twitch goes down

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with like abson hosting it and like 10 other sites that you

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might go to also go down right you know what are you left with whereas if those

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go down you still have twitch so you can you can watch us well I suspect that

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they will be I mean unless you know an entire data center loses power and is

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underwater or something like that I suspect you won't see an outright outage

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of something like twitch you might see the service slow down in much the same

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way that we often see happen now but it has happened right right hasn't it

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pretty sure where it's like oh blah blah blah is

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down and it's all leads to Amazon being

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down very rare but I think the thing we can all agree on is that lonus and

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Austin were much more important to invite to the Hawaii event than origin

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PC so we're really sorry about that origin you know you guys uh you guys you

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guys tried you know you tried to be as cool as me and Austin but unfortunately

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that wasn't going to happen all right what do we got for our next topic

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aha valve will optimize their streaming

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service with NVIDIA Hardware so this is

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from the NVIDIA blog let's go ahead and share my screen with you guys

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here there we go valin NVIDIA just made

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game streaming better than ever last week valve officially released support

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for Hardware en coding on NVIDIA GeForce gpus in the steam client pair the

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support with one of the latest GeForce GTX gpus and you can play remotely from

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your PC connected to any steam enabled system in your home at resolutions of up

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1080 60p

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so I think this is kind of NVIDIA making

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a lot of noise about something that was bound to happen eventually and really

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not that different from much anything else anyhow but it's great I mean have

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you tried steam in home streaming no no okay it is awesome and I've actually

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spent a little bit of time on Steam Chat with the lead Dev for Ste in home

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streaming um and he was I was chatting to him about sort of video encoding and

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decoding and what they're doing with respect to lowering latency and it's

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absolutely fascinating because they basically have to rackle it from a

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different angle for every different combination of encoders and decoders in

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order to make sure that everything is compatible and everything not only works

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but is extremely low latency so you

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don't feel that Network lag when you move the keyb and or when you press the

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keybard move the mouse what do I play overing home streaming almost anything

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I've even played FPS games is that to The Shield or no so one of the

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potential problems with streaming within

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the home so from a a more powerful PC to

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a smaller device or a laptop or another PC was I saw potential competing

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standards as a roadblock the fact that

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NVIDIA had their own technology where it was like okay you need a GeForce GPU you

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got to install GeForce experience on your PC you got to have an NVIDIA Shield

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branded device so whether it's a portable handheld or the tablet and you

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got to have a supported router and that is it you plug in all these things and

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00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:29,560
then all the check marks come on and it works so I kind of saw that as a

460
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:36,040
potential problem problem compared to valve solution which is okay do you have

461
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:38,679
a graphics card great do you have a CPU

462
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:44,760
also great do you have some other thing great it works except the other thing

463
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,919
has to run Steam and the first thing has to run Steam as well and then depending

464
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:52,679
on the hardware you were going to either have a really great experience if you

465
00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:56,800
had nice fast Hardware encoding and decoding or you were going to have a

466
00:34:54,280 --> 00:35:01,920
super crummy experience so for example LGA 11

467
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,839
1156 CPUs were available in either dual

468
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:07,960
core with onboard Graphics or quad core

469
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:12,200
with no onboard Graphics configurations the dual core would have

470
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:16,480
been able to support Hardware accelerated

471
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:20,720
decoding the quad core could not so there was some tricky stuff with

472
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:26,800
respect to making sure you had a configuration that was going to work with steam and home streaming so now

473
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:31,200
seeing NVIDIA and valve work together on this I now have complete confidence that

474
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:36,079
whether you're going to run Windows or you're going to run Steam OS people who

475
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,920
run AMD people who run AMD are still

476
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:42,440
going to be okay because valve is going to work with AMD as well Val because AMD

477
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:48,319
doesn't even have a competing solution they don't have free stream or whatever

478
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:54,400
it is they would call something like that you think they will so many people

479
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,480
have actually just gone with NVIDIA and

480
00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:01,480
like completely abandoned AMD is it's funny you mention that

481
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:08,040
because the market share isn't that much different than it was 5 years ago AMD's

482
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:11,520
always kind of been in that 20 to 35%

483
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:15,200
range of the discret desktop GPU

484
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Market that's all they really

485
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,839
got AMD free stream we have to start

486
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:27,680
that we have to make that happen we have to tell AMD that they have to have like

487
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:30,560
um like a a Freel handheld and then they

488
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:36,280
have to have like AMD free stream and and that should that should be

489
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,960
awesome for the AMD

490
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,760
people I'd be really interested to see valve I mean I'm I'm hoping that this is

491
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:47,440
an announcement they make in the next six months to a year but it would put

492
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,760
the final nail in the NVIDIA game stream coffin for me if valve released an

493
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:57,319
Android steam client and

494
00:36:53,200 --> 00:37:00,040
I I see them potentially heading this

495
00:36:57,319 --> 00:37:05,800
way already they ported portal to Android they ported halflife 2 to

496
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:09,760
Android they already have a steam

497
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,960
app so how far are we away from Steam

498
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:16,920
being your gaming Hub potentially on Android as well with all of these other

499
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:21,760
fantastic steam features running natively on Android or being streamed

500
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:27,359
running natively on Android that's what I'd like to see because then with valve

501
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:32,200
behind it I mean all the respect in the world world to the Limelight guys every

502
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:37,040
time I've used Limelight the latency has not been comparable to NVIDIA game

503
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:41,480
stream valve on the other hand I have faith that they could make that happen

504
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:48,599
and they could make streaming from your PC AMD powered Invidia powered Intel

505
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:52,960
onboard powered who cares I think they could make that a great experience

506
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:58,200
streaming to any device that has a beefy enough um h264 decoder chip on board

507
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:04,000
apparently NVIDIA did ports NVIDIA did the ports themselves

508
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:08,599
don't think so I know that NVIDIA was deeply involved in the ports but valve

509
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:14,280
was also involved in porting those games and even then I mean the fact that valve

510
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,280
was even willing to entertain

511
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:23,920
that I don't know we'll see I mean it's going to be it's going to be a big it's

512
00:38:21,319 --> 00:38:30,040
going to be a big battle for what is the next gaming platform of choice Beyond on

513
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:34,240
the PC and Beyond really not so much the PC cuz I don't think the PC is going

514
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,800
anywhere but beyond the console it's either going to be some type of

515
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:43,200
lightweight PC something like an Alienware Alpha or something like uh any

516
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:49,079
other sort of lightweight desktop type machine running Steam OS or some other

517
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Linux derivative or even Windows or it's

518
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:55,520
going to be Android and if you look at the overall strategy valve and NVIDIA

519
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,640
both obviously believe in different things here with valve thinking we're heading the direction of steam PCS or

520
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:07,400
whatever they want to call them and NVIDIA thinking we're headed towards Android but I don't think either of them

521
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:11,480
really Minds if it's the other one or some mix of the two because NVIDIA can

522
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:15,079
still sell you gpus over here and valve can still sell you games over

523
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:19,000
here so I wasn't listening at all I was

524
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,119
reading twitch chat did they say anything interesting or are they just

525
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:28,119
telling you to poke me more something about your crotch maybe

526
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:33,560
ah yes my crotch my crotch is is uh definitely one of the top subjects of

527
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:40,800
discussion on the stream today love it so originally posted by

528
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:42,880
Mech 777 the article from Hardware

529
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:51,160
360.com I'm just going to go ahead and fire this baby up here Witcher 3 Dev

530
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,160
promises only 30 FPS on

531
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:58,839
consoles what w although the funny thing

532
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:01,000
about this is that

533
00:39:58,839 --> 00:40:07,000
uh they basically said okay we're going to be aiming for the highest resolution

534
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,480
possible but full HD 1080p would likely

535
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:15,079
not be possible and the only thing they could promise was 30 FPS so essentially

536
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:20,640
even though you know there have been some complaints about there being a

537
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:25,319
console release at least what the uh you

538
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:27,760
know PC Master race subreddit can uh

539
00:40:25,319 --> 00:40:32,640
take some consolation in is the the fact that the experience on the console is

540
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:38,319
going to be significantly degraded is David still here David yeah yeah is can

541
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:44,440
you get the door when it rings in a minute thank you UPS is outside I think

542
00:40:42,359 --> 00:40:49,280
they've got a uh Cooler Master power supply for edel's new dual Titan 12 core

543
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:55,839
editing workstation yeah that's your new power supply man and something else H yeah

544
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:58,800
David's gonna David's gonna grab it we should say hi to the UPS guy

545
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:05,040
I don't think you can hear me I think he's got his Bluetooth headset in have you ever really gotten into a

546
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:09,800
Witcher game yeah I love The Witcher games okay tell me what's appealing

547
00:41:07,319 --> 00:41:14,960
about them I've tried both Witcher one and Witcher 2 enlighten me I find that

548
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,960
the character interactions

549
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,680
are above the standard that you might be

550
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:28,119
used to for most games uh the main character is actually kind of shitty he

551
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:31,960
like no offense no offense to the voice

552
00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:34,560
actor or the writers but isn't that by

553
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:39,280
default isn't that who you just offended saying no offense doesn't make it

554
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:44,119
unoffensive okay fine full offense to

555
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:46,680
anyone involved but geralt is kind of a

556
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:51,880
shitty character he's always like dead pan and I don't know he's just not a

557
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,760
very good character but but everyone else is a good character and they

558
00:41:54,000 --> 00:42:00,640
develop and like their interactions with uh you

559
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:07,079
are interesting and like it's all based on novels so like they are actually

560
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:10,960
fleshed out and uh just like playing in

561
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:12,119
that that world that actually exists in

562
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:18,800
detail somewhere uh is nicer than other games

563
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:22,599
that's that's what I like about it like how they create their creatures they

564
00:42:20,359 --> 00:42:28,079
have a lore you can read up on them so on and so forth hey David could we

565
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:32,160
actually get those those things yeah do mind I just want to

566
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:39,119
find out what this is I'm hoping it's Dominator platinum ddr4 and we can show

567
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:41,160
that to you guys okay because I have

568
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:46,160
I've tried both times and within actually the funny thing is with Witcher

569
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,880
2 I even got like an hour and a half in

570
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:54,720
because I was looking for a consistent benchmarking spot and I just I did not

571
00:42:52,440 --> 00:43:00,559
find it compelling at all thank you sir do you like fantasy

572
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:03,839
RPGs anyway I made it all the way through Dragon

573
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Age one uh yeah Dragon Age 2 I did not find

574
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,680
nearly as compelling that was kind of shitty compared to uh this one Dragon

575
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:20,319
Age one was really great though I really enjoyed it I don't have a

576
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,559
knife I do what is this who's it

577
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:26,079
from oh it is from Corsair but I don't know what it is it

578
00:43:24,839 --> 00:43:31,000
doesn't feel heavy enough to be dominator platinums wa chat guess what

579
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:35,520
it is let's play a guessing game live

580
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:42,920
unboxings

581
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:51,800
okay oh am I not supposed to swear I don't care okay try not to drop drop F

582
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:55,800
Bombs all over the place you know oh

583
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,960
it's the new um Corsair link thing cool

584
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:02,880
so this is supposed a pretty big improvement over the old one wow it's

585
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:06,240
much lower profile I don't know how much they've shown of this yet so I'm going

586
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,960
to just kind of put that back in the box for now but uh cool so we're definitely

587
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:15,760
going to check that out and then the other

588
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:21,079
one here you want to do the honors I like how you just toss things ah it's

589
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:26,559
It's Not Fragile it's Corsair it's made by Corsair so it's pretty

590
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:31,400
good unlikely to break we've actually thrown horse aair power supplies out of

591
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:37,359
out of cars and drop them off roofs speaking of great power supplies though

592
00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:43,359
this is one of the finest power supplies available on the market 80 plus Platinum

593
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,400
1200 watt fully modular so this is a vs

594
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:50,839
series power supply from Cooler Master because we realized as we were building

595
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:55,480
the rigs for the whole room liquid cooling setup that we had asked Cooler

596
00:44:53,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Master for 750 wat power supplies with the assumption that I was going to be

597
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:07,920
getting one of the Titan blacks well after much debate and much um

598
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:14,880
concealment of the actual are just like yeah let give me

599
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:18,359
the Titan yeah so I ended up with an old

600
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:21,000
GTX 285 that we had lying around

601
00:45:18,359 --> 00:45:28,160
somewhere in my rig and Ed ended up with two Titans and we kind of went shoot is

602
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:29,760
750 watts even enough probably not so

603
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:35,720
cuz he's got three graphics cards in there uh what is it the two Titans and a

604
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:41,720
Quadro yeah two Titans and a Quadro plus the 10 gbit Ethernet card plus the 12

605
00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:44,280
core processor so we're talking about

606
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:48,880
the kind of rig that these types of power supplies are legitimately made for

607
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:52,839
actually we should actually like measure how much it actually takes we should

608
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:57,040
measure like when you're when you're um dinking around in Cinema 4D we should

609
00:45:55,280 --> 00:46:01,960
have a look at what kind of power consumption when you're hitting the RAM

610
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,480
the gpus and the CPU all same used that

611
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:08,480
much uh during octane oh that's right now so yeah it's

612
00:46:06,240 --> 00:46:12,319
all it's all what I'm going to give the floor to you while I go get a drink of

613
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:16,040
water um would you like one too can you get my energy drink in the other room

614
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:22,119
sure yeah I'll grab your energy drink but I want you to justify because people

615
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,040
haven't really I think been able to

616
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:30,800
understand why anyone could possibly need a 12 core CPU 64 gigs of RAM dual

617
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,319
Titan blacks and a Quadro in one machine

618
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,880
can you justify what the heck it is you do around here that you need that kind

619
00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:42,680
of power for I'll be right back justify that

620
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:42,680
okay where to start where to

621
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:54,800
start all right so for the the 12 core

622
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:57,359
processor um well I use after effects

623
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:03,920
pretty much exclusively these days no that's that's a lie uh most for the big

624
00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:08,520
projects like the build guides I guess that's it these days um I use after

625
00:47:06,839 --> 00:47:17,440
effects to do Motion Graphics for the intro the lower thirds and then I've

626
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:20,599
also started to use Cinema 4D and I have

627
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:27,040
the octane renderer engine which is

628
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:29,280
fully GPU accelerated so to put this

629
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:35,079
to I guess size this up against each other uh my six core processor would

630
00:47:32,359 --> 00:47:41,800
render a frame in about six minutes one GPU would render one frame

631
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:47,839
in 1 minute 30 seconds I'll be back actually I'm not quite ready

632
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:52,559
yet two gpus would be around 45 seconds

633
00:47:47,839 --> 00:47:57,079
I can't do math uh so three it's bound

634
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:59,800
to be what 20ish 25 seconds someone do

635
00:47:57,079 --> 00:47:59,800
the math for me

636
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,520
please porn why are we talking about porn I don't get

637
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:17,599
this uh the yeah it's a one frame and

638
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:22,880
six second or 6 minutes because it's like 3D Ray tracing no it's actually

639
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:29,400
like Photon something or other but it's definitely more intensive than 2D video

640
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:32,160
would you like to sit back down yeah

641
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:37,760
sure I noticed in my absence you just completely took over the entire couch

642
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:43,280
awesome so had you made it through all of the components yet uh I don't think

643
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:45,720
I've Justified the RAM yet okay so in

644
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:51,799
After Effects to use multiprocessor rendering you have to assign each core

645
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,200
some RAM ideally you want to assign it

646
00:48:51,799 --> 00:49:02,520
three gigs each I don't have enough for that so I so I assign it two G GS that's

647
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:06,440
what 2 * 12 no 24 because it counts the

648
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:09,960
separate threads as a core right 4 48

649
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,920
gigs so that's 48 I guess I could no

650
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:16,359
that brings it up to no you used to have no you did you didn't used to be able to

651
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:21,760
do it because you had six cores 12 threads 12 * 3 is

652
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:23,599
36 and you had 32 gigs whereas with the

653
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:28,079
new 64 gig config you'll have 24 threads time yeah

654
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:32,520
you still won't have yeah I can still only assign 12 gigs to it yeah but you

655
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:36,240
know what we could try as an experiment we could try turning off

656
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:42,200
hyperthreading because hyperthreading will give you a uh you know probably a

657
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:44,280
10 to 15% boost but you might get more

658
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,319
of a boost by being able to assign more RAM to your course interesting we should

659
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:52,040
play around with that that's going to be cool anyway sorry some mac users have

660
00:49:49,359 --> 00:49:57,880
allegedly disabled some cores but that's not hyperthreading no

661
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:04,880
you can you can oh because the Mac Pro only has four memory slots but then you

662
00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:07,119
can load it with ECC RAM so h t it I

663
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:13,880
still have more slots on there right yeah you have eight slots could get more

664
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:17,079
RAM um yes a uh ASUS has a beta BIOS for

665
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:20,160
the x79 deluxe that supports uh 16 gig

666
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:22,319
dims but only certain ones not the ones

667
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:26,520
that we originally obtained for the project okay so sorry you were

668
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:32,880
justifying why you need why you need all these uh I Justified the Cinema 4D just

669
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:35,200
because uh linear performance scaling

670
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:39,920
with graphics cards which is amazing I think I need two more Titans honestly

671
00:50:38,359 --> 00:50:46,040
cuz Okay take the cost of a Titan right and

672
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:51,680
then ,000

673
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:54,400
take count how many hours an extra Titan

674
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:59,240
would save me in rendering in the one project we've everever done one so far

675
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:04,799
more it could be more if I could do things faster I could do more of those

676
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:10,000
and that's how I'm trying to justify two more Titans well you've got two why

677
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,000
don't we see how it goes from

678
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:17,960
there anyway so because of him I don't

679
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:25,079
even have a DisplayPort output so my LG monitor is running on a DVI to HDMI

680
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:27,240
adapter and HDMI in at 50 HZ so I'm

681
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:32,359
going to have to obtain some other kind of GPU for my system and when that

682
00:51:30,359 --> 00:51:36,319
happens I guess around the same time we're going to add another pump to the

683
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:40,760
whole room setup so that bleeding air from the system is much much easier

684
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:45,000
because right now the only way to bleed the air from the lines that go down and

685
00:51:43,319 --> 00:51:51,240
then up to each system from the top of the room is to disconnect all the other

686
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:55,119
systems so that the main pump is only pushing through one system so that we

687
00:51:52,760 --> 00:52:01,319
can get all the air bubbles out but what's cool is the way we have it

688
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:04,400
working right now none of the systems

689
00:52:01,319 --> 00:52:06,400
even have pumps on so if we could close

690
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,599
the door to the server room the fans are on the fans are running you still want

691
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,040
fans running but we wouldn't have to have them all running so the way that

692
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:20,880
it's set up right now if we could close the door to the server room we could actually have the room be extremely

693
00:52:17,319 --> 00:52:23,640
quiet which uh how loud is the the red

694
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:28,000
not bad not bad but what I'm thinking is we might get um like a variable power

695
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:34,839
supply so we could dial it into 8 volts or something like that cuz with 20

696
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:37,640
Noctua industrial N2 fans and then five

697
00:52:34,839 --> 00:52:41,720
quad radiators it's way more than enough for the systems that we have in there we

698
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:47,440
actually had it running passively for hours today with three of the systems

699
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,319
idling and Ed's 12 core priming and we

700
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:55,799
you managed to raise it what like two degrees what on passive yeah passive

701
00:52:52,920 --> 00:53:03,160
without the fans even running 100% it was 40 8° C idle was 30 yeah I mean but

702
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:08,799
um when you had it priming it went up to about 50° C Max

703
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:12,119
right it's about the same was it about the same okay maybe we didn't even

704
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:17,280
manage to increase the temps but I'm thinking in the winter we may not have

705
00:53:14,839 --> 00:53:22,720
to disconnect from the whole room system what we might do is just turn off all

706
00:53:19,799 --> 00:53:27,000
the fans and then if we have enough or or turn on only a few of the fans so

707
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:32,640
what I'm thinking is as like a phase two if Luke and I

708
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,400
could find a way to have a temperature

709
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:43,000
controlled um switch for each Bank of fans so as

710
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:45,160
water temperature reaches X degre

711
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:50,119
another bank of fans turns on and as it reaches X degrees another bank turns on

712
00:53:47,799 --> 00:53:55,200
and then they turn off to prevent the entire water cooling system from getting

713
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,960
so cold that we have condensation problems so that that could be like a

714
00:53:57,240 --> 00:54:05,079
phase two where it actually intelligently maintains its temperature

715
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:07,680
at a specific setting can you set uh fan

716
00:54:05,079 --> 00:54:17,160
curve without without a PC connected to it we yeah there would be a way actually

717
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:20,079
yes a t balancer can be configured with

718
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:25,760
extra mini controllers and those will run oh I geta

719
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:28,880
you you program them so you don't actually have to have the software

720
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:35,200
interacting with it that could even work

721
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,839
stupid it's it's so stupid it might just

722
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:42,040
be brilliant this is getting stupider and stupider I love

723
00:54:38,599 --> 00:54:43,319
it oo I'm excited oh we had someone in

724
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:48,720
the twitch chat figure out the tea balancer thing before I said it so we got to give them a shout out for that

725
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:52,160
who is it who is it where are you I can't find it because I don't have that

726
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:56,640
stupid plugin installed in my browser so I can't scroll up anyway good job um you

727
00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:02,040
know what we should probably do our spa spots before we completely run out of

728
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:06,559
time today so first up is 54 Club so

729
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:10,760
guys to be clear the 54 Club offer has

730
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:13,319
actually changed a little bit so now

731
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:18,280
instead of saving $15 on your first package they are actually going to send

732
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:23,280
you all the clothing that you ordered and they're just going to put cash money

733
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:29,960
in the Box for you $10 cash bo like actually cash like dollar bills or

734
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:33,039
whatever ever that is that is it so

735
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:35,520
rather than like an online discount

736
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:41,520
they're offering $10 cash back in the packaging that doesn't make any sense

737
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,960
like okay sure why not so guys the whole

738
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:47,799
thing with 54 Club is that it takes the effort out of shopping so I'm just going

739
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:53,599
to pull up their site so I can show you guys how the whole thing

740
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:55,920
works here we go line is to screen share

741
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:59,880
actually I should probably move that there we go shopping sucks let us take

742
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:05,680
care of making you look good now edel you enjoy shopping correct I love

743
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:11,079
shopping lonus you know me so well I thought you do like shopping you like

744
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:14,119
wearing nice clothes yeah I

745
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:16,520
guess okay so even even the ones who

746
00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:20,359
like wearing nice clothes apparently I really I thought you enjoyed shopping

747
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,480
for clothes you wanted to go shopping in Vegas when we were there the first year

748
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:29,520
yeah but there's not there wasn't much else to do like outside outside of the

749
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:31,359
park fres just like what is in Vegas

750
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:36,799
besides gambling I hate gambling so the way 54 Club works is

751
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:41,480
every month they send you a package of clothes so you can look and feel great

752
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:46,319
you take a quick survey it takes literally less than a minute Luke and I

753
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,920
both actually timed it see I'm actually you know what that's what we're going to

754
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:54,240
do today we are going to do the survey in fact check this out they even put a

755
00:56:51,599 --> 00:57:00,599
timer in the corner so that you can you can realize as you finish that you uh

756
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,599
took less than a minute to do it so what should we go

757
00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:07,559
for okay I'm going to have you do the survey Ed do business casual here hold

758
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:12,599
on I actually really like the 54 system just because okay you want business

759
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:18,200
casual yeah okay all right can I get this I scroll down the page uh what's

760
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:21,640
your favorite color to wear H it's buil

761
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,520
fall now right so maybe a red or brown

762
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:27,760
no let's go with blue let's go with blue what does blue have to do with fall okay

763
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:33,039
what's your second favorite color to wear let's go with a gray let's go with

764
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:40,319
that let's go with a gray third favorite color let's go with brown okay Brown and

765
00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:45,520
then what is your top size medium medium

766
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:46,839
what is your bottom size 32 all right 32

767
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:53,680
what does your bottom fit straight straight fit yep shoe size

768
00:57:50,799 --> 00:58:00,039
H oh jeez nine what shoe you're probably about a nine yeah okay okay and then

769
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,039
which do you like

770
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,839
more striped go striped all right what

771
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:10,359
is your second favorite shirt type solid solid all right so you're not a plaid

772
00:58:08,319 --> 00:58:15,240
guy is what you're trying to say raw or washed for your jeans uh raw Gotta Love

773
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:23,839
The Raw okay what kind of denim style do you prefer fashion fashion denim t-shirt

774
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:27,119
preference fashion fashion okay and

775
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:30,680
shoes oh they're both

776
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:33,000
now let good with b b all right so there

777
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:37,319
you go total time lapsed 101 seconds all right so it took us a little longer than

778
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:45,880
60 seconds but the main point is on your first time you get $10 cash back so sign

779
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:48,799
up at bit.ly Linus FFC and try it out we

780
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:54,960
actually had uh a 54 Club sponsorship spot that we did a while back that um

781
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,319
was a total disaster I got all of the

782
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:02,880
the pricing wrong got the offer for their July thing totally wrong but you

783
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:07,559
know what's hilarious is they actually reached out to us and said a whole bunch

784
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:13,000
of our viewers signed up so in the next couple minutes I'd like to hear from any

785
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:20,400
of you who signed up for 54 Club go ahead and tweet with # Linus

786
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:22,000
54 not because I'm 5'4 inches tall I'm

787
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:28,079
much taller than that what's the offer code um someone asked sorry someone

788
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:31,160
asked what the offer code was uh offer

789
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:34,359
code is lonus I believe 54 Linus let me

790
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:37,480
just double check I really love uh the

791
00:59:34,359 --> 00:59:40,599
54 system just because

792
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:42,359
like I don't have time to go shopping

793
00:59:40,599 --> 00:59:48,839
like during the weekdays just because I leave here at 6 no

794
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:57,280
5:30 oh apparently we've used hash Linus 54 before all righty

795
00:59:51,799 --> 00:59:57,280
then um okay 54

796
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:05,400
for those of you just tuning in uh Luke

797
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:10,280
is off at packs I'm

798
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:11,640
edel edel Yago on Twitter I guess me

799
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:17,000
doing that doesn't really do anything does it I don't think so

800
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,000
yeah follow

801
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:25,599
me that I'm posting the link guys just make sure you use the link and I believe

802
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,680
offer code is lonus so give that a try

803
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:30,880
all right and then so yeah if I'm going to see if anyone has actually tweeted

804
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:36,960
with the hashtag hashtag I want to hear what you

805
01:00:33,319 --> 01:00:42,000
guys think of it Linus

806
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:44,760
54 I did caps lock so 22 seconds ago all

807
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,720
you did was use the hashtag you didn't actually tell me what you think of it

808
01:00:46,359 --> 01:00:52,520
okay so maybe we'll come back to this later but in the meantime Twitter is

809
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:57,960
hard our I know Twitter is so difficult our second sponsor this week is hyper X

810
01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:03,920
memor so they are actually our gold sponsor for our P Prime coverage Luke

811
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,599
and Brandon are down there at the show

812
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:12,359
and hopefully having a ton of fun bringing you guys a ton of great coverage over the next um I guess it'll

813
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:15,039
be is Friday Saturday Saturday Sunday

814
01:01:12,359 --> 01:01:18,000
Monday um all the packs Prime coverage should be landing so they're going to be

815
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:22,160
covering some game stuff they're going to be covering some of the hardware

816
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:26,520
stuff and you guys should definitely definitely get excited about that I

817
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:32,599
think Luke is going to be trying to get all of his work done in the

818
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:35,000
first uh I think what was he trying to

819
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:38,760
do trying to get all of his work done in the first two days and then try to spend

820
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:43,359
a bunch of time gaming so if you're going to be down in the byoc down at PA

821
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:47,000
Prime definitely go say hi to Luke and Brandon they're both going to be there

822
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:53,480
Nick's going to be there as well and Luke actually has my computer down there

823
01:01:51,799 --> 01:01:57,200
so if you've ever wanted to see my personal rig in person and you're going

824
01:01:55,279 --> 01:02:02,079
to be down at packs and you're going to be in the byoc that's basically going to

825
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:07,680
be the requirements he um didn't have time to fix up his Spotswood test bench

826
01:02:05,319 --> 01:02:11,119
and he asked if uh if he could build up a rig from some of the parts around the

827
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:18,319
office and I was just like well I got a newborn I'm not gaming this weekend

828
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:21,279
so yeah I guess you can just take my rig

829
01:02:18,319 --> 01:02:28,119
so I thought that was pretty darn cool all right so just someone did it in

830
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:30,119
14 seconds someone did what did the 54

831
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:36,599
thing in 14 seconds yeah I don't think they actually chose things right or they

832
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:38,480
might just be like I that's kind of fun

833
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:43,200
maybe for our next uh maybe for our next 54 integration thing we should actually

834
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:47,880
make that a contest let's see who can do the 54 survey in the least amount of

835
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:54,240
time um just so you know guys uh the pricing for 54 so per month is 60 bucks

836
01:02:51,279 --> 01:02:59,720
they send you a sticker price of sorry what's up what's the 54 hash

837
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:04,599
oh oh sorry sorry sorry I'll post that

838
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:06,000
okay so # Linus 54 guys so hit us on

839
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:10,720
Twitter with that I want to hear what you think of the service now that you've

840
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:15,480
been using it so it's 60 bucks a month and then you get a total value of $100

841
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:20,319
worth of clothing and then the first month they're just going to send you $10

842
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:24,559
in the box so you get effectively a $10 discount on your first month oh and

843
01:03:22,279 --> 01:03:28,960
something I should mention about um hyperx's sponsorship for PAX Prime is

844
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:33,079
they really wanted me to tell you guys yo check out their YouTube channel

845
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:38,599
because they've been doing a lot of really cool stuff on it lately so you

846
01:03:35,279 --> 01:03:40,839
just go to youtube.com/ I think just

847
01:03:38,599 --> 01:03:45,160
hyperx works now as well no it doesn't so youtube.com/ Kingston

848
01:03:45,279 --> 01:03:53,680
hyperx and they've been doing a bunch of really cool stuff so aside from just

849
01:03:50,359 --> 01:03:55,839
like yeah you know here's some really

850
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:59,400
great memory and headsets and USB drives and stuff you should probably you should

851
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:05,799
probably try it out they've also got a bunch of really cool content that's like

852
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:08,799
um bloggy style or skits or interviews

853
01:04:05,799 --> 01:04:12,359
with pro orts athletes so um they're

854
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:14,440
doing a fantastic job of releasing a ton

855
01:04:12,359 --> 01:04:18,200
of interesting content when you compare that to what other brand names tend to

856
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:23,880
do on their YouTube channels where it's like yet another place to put an ad um I

857
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:29,480
think their approach is really stands out from the crowd so I I like how uh

858
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:37,640
they've been doing a lot of a lot of videos or ads with actual Pro Gamers I

859
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:41,520
like they're they're not they're not

860
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:43,720
actors so so they're kind of terad I

861
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:47,440
wasn't sure if I could say that or not but that's fine it's genuine yeah it is

862
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:52,400
genuine and it does help the Esports scene so I I do really appreciate that

863
01:04:50,119 --> 01:04:58,359
so I mean actually this is this is funny we uh check this out we we creeped them

864
01:04:55,720 --> 01:05:03,039
on W show last week to have a look at how their YouTube channel is growing and

865
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:07,400
they had added let's look at their full monthly statistics they had added almost

866
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:12,839
half of their total subscriber count in the previous two weeks or rather month

867
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:17,319
and this time it looks like they've pretty much done it again they have

868
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:21,160
added 20,000 and they have a total of 44,000 subscribers so they're growing

869
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:24,720
extremely quickly so someone likes something that they're doing

870
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:35,200
this is this is funny I've got kgh HT 222 in the twitch chat saying that the

871
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:40,799
uh the $60 a month for 54 Club is an average of $2 a day for clothing I doubt

872
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:46,599
even Bill Gates spends $800 a year on clothing Bill Gates I don't think he

873
01:05:43,279 --> 01:05:48,839
really on top of of that fashion thing

874
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:54,000
or I don't think he even cares I think Bill Gates probably spends more than

875
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:56,799
$800 a year on clothing I think he's he

876
01:05:54,000 --> 01:06:00,839
might be one of those people who buys like really expensive uh polos that are

877
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:09,960
like bulletproof okay so I don't know I I wish I could meet

878
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:12,559
Bill Gates Bill Gates meet me please

879
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:17,480
yeah Bill Gates Bill if you're watching man you know we'd love to uh we'd love

880
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:17,480
to have you on the show

881
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:27,240
sometime people are really complaining about $60 a month for clothes like I no

882
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:34,720
offense to people but clothes are kind of expensive if you care about like keep

883
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:39,799
up well no you can look not homeless without spending all that much money but

884
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:44,400
to keep up with anything it's kind of a lot of work all

885
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:47,920
right so we are we are going to do it we are going to go unfiltered and have a

886
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:53,880
look at what you guys have to say about 54 this will either be a great endorsement for the service or if you

887
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:57,240
guys hate it then there'll be that um here we go

888
01:06:57,359 --> 01:07:06,480
is better than anyone they sent me clothes in the box without the face of

889
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:08,559
Neptune got to love my socks all right

890
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:12,480
Timothy says they have great clothing Dana says like all things I

891
01:07:11,079 --> 01:07:19,319
don't like the cost of shipping to Canada yes 54 is more expensive to ship

892
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:21,520
to Canada okay Jacob Ingram says I just

893
01:07:19,319 --> 01:07:25,000
wanted to say you're pretty awesome edel I think you're skipping ahead Sam Palmer

894
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:29,559
says I wish it was available in Australia would love to use the system

895
01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:34,400
ROM says love it thanks for recommending it and high

896
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:39,720
Linus Le suggests that lonus do the boiling water challenge thanks Lew I

897
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:45,720
jackass that's a thing um okay Amir says I really like

898
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:51,119
the system but sadly I'm only 14 and constantly changing sizes actually I

899
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:55,119
would see that as an advantage if you budget for it and you let cuz Okay the

900
01:07:53,279 --> 01:08:00,839
way 54 works is they have like a style advis who you work with directly and who

901
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:05,279
handpicks your clothing every month so they actually have someone that you can

902
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:11,920
contact and be like yo dog I Chang sizes so just throwing that out there it's

903
01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:15,559
interesting e0 says did it in 20

904
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,199
seconds all right Brien asks try to make

905
01:08:15,559 --> 01:08:22,080
the service available in the UK short sweatpants and graphic T-shirts

906
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:26,080
they don't have my style I like shorts sweatpants and graphic t-shirts is that

907
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:31,199
a style I don't know that's sweatpants and graphic t-shirts are a style I think

908
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:36,319
that might be your issue Sam says the guy who wears socks and

909
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:42,719
sandwi I don't wear sweatpants have you ever seen me wear

910
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:45,839
sweatpants I want to say you have but I

911
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:48,199
think I did once I was really sick all

912
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:53,000
right oh sometime well sometimes you walk around in pajamas I think not here

913
01:08:50,679 --> 01:08:57,920
recent oh at home yes I've actually done videos in my pajamas uh Jack says love

914
01:08:55,839 --> 01:09:00,920
the surface Brett says come to Australia okay I think we've given 54 enough

915
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:05,839
screen time at this point they should be pretty they should be pretty happy cuz

916
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:08,440
we've like blabbed about them forever um

917
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:12,120
see this is the problem we always start talking about like the sponsor value ad

918
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:16,520
and then it's like this is a good discussion

919
01:09:13,759 --> 01:09:19,440
topic clothes are overrated all right I'm letting you deal with this one it

920
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:22,759
was originally posted by Mushi on the Forum and the original article is from

921
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:30,040
computer andv video games.com but um Nintendo says goodbye

922
01:09:26,679 --> 01:09:31,239
to casual gamers what exactly here I'm

923
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:36,679
just going to bring up the article before I hand you the laptop that's what it looks like what exactly do they mean

924
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:41,480
by that well who that didn't

925
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:45,960
work oh which didn't work the the article

926
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:51,719
thing up oh no no that's okay the article's gone well

927
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,440
apparently uh because smartphones and

928
01:09:51,719 --> 01:09:59,679
apple in particular is taking

929
01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:03,480
over the uh casual gaming Market they

930
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:07,560
don't really see a need to

931
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:10,040
to okay noad to uh keep to keep making

932
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:14,280
games for the Casual gaming Market which makes sense because you'd be competing

933
01:10:12,239 --> 01:10:21,719
with people who don't really want to play games anyway unless it's convenient

934
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:25,320
so I like the direction they're going with this I don't like it at all why not

935
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:31,600
you look at one of their most SU successful products in the last 10 years

936
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:33,600
the DS the DS was all about the Casual

937
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:40,000
experience for me I played more bomber man on my DS than anything

938
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:43,320
else but you've also played games like

939
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,199
uh what is it Bravely Default yes how

940
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:50,679
did you like that bra default was good until it completely crapped the bed

941
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:57,600
okay but okay let's ask the chat how many of

942
01:10:53,480 --> 01:11:00,520
you guys are or like casual

943
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:07,320
games on nintend okay here do you guys think Nintendo still has a contribution

944
01:11:03,679 --> 01:11:09,560
to make to Casual games or should they

945
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:14,000
focus on the stuff that looks casual in terms of the art style like Mario Kart

946
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:19,040
and smash BRS but is actually extremely hardcore in terms of the game balancing

947
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,760
and the game playay so there why don't we do straw pull here do you want to

948
01:11:20,239 --> 01:11:25,000
fire up do you know how straw pull works yeah yeah make up make up a straw pull I

949
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,360
want to I want to hear from you guys does Nintendo still have a contribution

950
01:11:26,719 --> 01:11:34,159
to make or do you just want them to focus on what I mean really they're very

951
01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:37,520
good at you know Zelda I would make the argument that in spite of how cartoony

952
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:42,480
something like okarina of time might have looked is definitely a gamer title

953
01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:47,960
not a casual title

954
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:49,920
okay um go ahead and post that you just

955
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:54,480
have to kind of spam it a little bit and do the permissive vote yeah there you go

956
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:05,800
I'm totally I have I have one more straw poll in mind before the end of the show

957
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:08,840
that I'm totally going to Blindside you

958
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:11,400
with it's going to be fun all right spam

959
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:20,920
spam spam what people say okarina is cartoony uh yeah come on little

960
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:22,440
fairy where did I put that H disappeared

961
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:29,080
yeah the twitch chat just moves really fast I mean my straw tab

962
01:12:25,679 --> 01:12:31,679
there we go boom JJJ says lonus do you

963
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:36,679
see this no all right let's go ahead and screen

964
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:41,880
share here so you mentioned Mario and Super Smash Brothers yeah I love Super

965
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:47,639
Mario Kart I play it with the ncx guys like every week and then like we go to

966
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:49,840
Chris's and then play it some more uh

967
01:12:47,639 --> 01:12:56,560
that's definitely not a casual game just cuz I know it's freaking

968
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:59,520
hard and it's great love it I I probably

969
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:06,719
spend more play more time playing Super Mario Kart than Mario Mario Kart yeah

970
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:13,239
sorry that's what I started with the Super Mario Kart on

971
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:16,159
SNES I on consoles I've played that more

972
01:13:13,239 --> 01:13:22,480
than any other game on a console really yes that much yeah so would you say that

973
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:27,760
okay so because the the wi's whole value ad was supposed to be we fit and wi

974
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:33,400
Sports terrible flinging the wi mode around okay so that that was the we so

975
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:37,080
so if Nintendo's direction is okay Wii U

976
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:41,360
we're going to go back to 1080p 60 FPS

977
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:42,880
and hardcore titles could you be sold a

978
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:51,159
Wii U if they made more hardcore titles yeah

979
01:13:46,639 --> 01:13:53,560
if they did more Mario Kart class titles

980
01:13:51,159 --> 01:14:02,199
on the Wii U would you consider buying one if no one else in my like group of

981
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:04,960
friends had a wiu then yes like honestly

982
01:14:02,199 --> 01:14:08,760
for Mario Kart I would just buy a Wii U just for Mario Kart it's a really good

983
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:14,239
party game okay so that's so that's it that's

984
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:18,520
the issue then because okay from so from a business is kind of an issue because

985
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:23,040
from a business standpoint if the objective is to sell more copies of the

986
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:29,520
game and more consoles are they going to be doing themselves any favors by

987
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:32,000
eliminating casual games in favor of I

988
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:39,239
mean arguably the two examples that we came up with of great Nintendo hardcore

989
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,239
titles party

990
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,520
games

991
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:49,400
well so are you're asking whether or not

992
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:52,760
it's better for Nintendo to make party

993
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:56,000
games and sell fewer consoles than

994
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:57,880
casual games and sell more like yeah but

995
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:02,360
do you have any stats for that no no I don't no I don't I'm just saying that it

996
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:07,760
feels like a problem that the titles that you and I are discussing that could

997
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:09,480
sell the console to us are titles that

998
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:12,679
really only one person within a group of friends really needs to own unless

999
01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:17,800
you're going to be unless you're going to be one of those people like Luke who sits and practices Mario Kart so that

1000
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:22,480
when everyone comes and plays with him he just wrecks everybody those people

1001
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:29,280
are bad people by the way people who practice party games no I think bad

1002
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:32,199
people Anthony and Chris probably Jack

1003
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:39,560
Me Maybe too probably better than uh Luke at uh Mario Kart really yeah even

1004
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:43,760
though you didn't know the name of the game Mario Cart doesn't matter if

1005
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:49,040
there's super on there or an eight on the end same thing same thing okay and

1006
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:53,320
actually uh Chris's girlfriend amazing at Super Nintendo's uh Mario Kart really

1007
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:57,239
yeah ridiculous all right all right well you

1008
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:01,520
know what we will have to do we will have to do some game streaming sometime

1009
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:05,760
uh sometime maybe we'll go over to Luke's house or something or um yeah we

1010
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:10,320
could yeah we'll play some to bring all no we'll play some Mario Kart I have a

1011
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:11,400
land PC no no Mario Kart oh marioart

1012
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:18,639
you'll have to show us your you'll have to show us your skills we we'll have to see how that goes you know what's funny

1013
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:20,600
though is we could actually do PC game

1014
01:16:18,639 --> 01:16:29,120
streaming from the office now everybody's work machine is now

1015
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:31,800
legit a legit gaming rig I need to SLI

1016
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:37,639
that oh yeah we never put an SLI bridge in your machine well in theory you

1017
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:37,639
wouldn't need it whatever I

1018
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:44,840
need have you played Battlefield have I played Battlefield 4

1019
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:49,400
yeah not really I played a little bit of the single player and got Bor can I borrow those the Titans you want to

1020
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:57,239
borrow the Titans how are you going to get them out of the machine scissors yeah that's what I

1021
01:16:52,880 --> 01:17:00,760
thought no absolutely not so ised the

1022
01:16:57,239 --> 01:17:03,880
first time uh last week with uh S Dual

1023
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:08,239
770s Battlefield is running all right

1024
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:10,600
but I am using a 2-year-old 8150 that

1025
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:14,920
lonus gave me for free when I started interning for him at NCI ex Tech tip

1026
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:21,920
that was like two years ago yeah it was wow yeah and apparently the 8150 is

1027
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:25,560
bottled necking my two Sly cards yeah

1028
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:29,199
that 8150 was uh that was like that was

1029
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:31,960
like the uh the the the [ __ ] chip even

1030
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:39,199
then and you gave it to me for for my hard work yeah thanks lonus hey you got

1031
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:42,600
RAM and a motherboard and I'm pretty

1032
01:17:39,199 --> 01:17:45,000
sure a GPU at some point so yeah it

1033
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:52,199
wasn't all it wasn't all terrible all right so Razer cortex their

1034
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:54,480
Deal's video game tracker is now in this

1035
01:17:52,199 --> 01:18:00,159
is in Early Access right now correct yep all right so basically bye David bye

1036
01:17:57,639 --> 01:18:06,880
David so basically one of the best things about being a PC Gamer you know

1037
01:18:02,639 --> 01:18:10,360
just ask PC Gamers there is no

1038
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:12,639
$59.99 I mean there is for like two days

1039
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:16,440
or if it's South Park Stick of Truth man that hurt I didn't buy that till like

1040
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:22,400
months after release and it was still $59.99 anyway there's no such thing as

1041
01:18:19,239 --> 01:18:26,880
sticker price there's always a deal so

1042
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:29,120
Razer has their new cortex game Deal

1043
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:33,000
tracker it scours the internet tirelessly to let you know of price drop

1044
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:38,199
sweet deals and exciting promotions on your favorite game so you'll never miss

1045
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:39,880
out on another bargain so you can sign

1046
01:18:38,199 --> 01:18:44,080
up for Early Access and check it out it's in beta and currently comparing

1047
01:18:41,639 --> 01:18:47,080
prices exclusively in the US region and other regions will come after launch but

1048
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:53,880
that is something that you guys are definitely going to want to check out have you have you signed up no I haven't

1049
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:59,920
really are you going to I have so many things running already

1050
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:02,239
ready and I like I like steam uh that's

1051
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:06,600
what I thought about it I thought you know looking at all these features it

1052
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:12,560
looks like Steam and GeForce experience it has like

1053
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:20,239
a the game optimizing tool yeah and it like defrags your system which I already

1054
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:23,560
do it like prioritize prioritizes uh

1055
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:24,880
things so would you even fire it up to

1056
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:31,440
see if there was a deal before you bought a game on Steam or would you just blindly buy it on Steam because you find

1057
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:37,400
the steam experience so much better well like depends on how it works is it going

1058
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:39,239
to send me to any number of dozen sites

1059
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:44,840
like I don't want to make a new account for for a site every time a deal comes

1060
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:51,159
up and it's like on a different site like one reason I buy games off steam is

1061
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:56,560
that it's on Steam yeah you know there's my steam wallet it's just right there or

1062
01:19:54,199 --> 01:20:00,679
EA origin store Ubisoft store I don't buy anything on

1063
01:19:57,679 --> 01:20:03,080
there uh you know it's like it's right

1064
01:20:00,679 --> 01:20:06,600
there it's convenient whereas Razer doesn't have their store like what how

1065
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,520
are they going to do this I'm really interested to try it out I'm going to

1066
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:15,440
install it I'm going to try it out and then I'll I'll see how it goes from there maybe it'll be a disaster but I

1067
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:21,199
mean Razer has shown that they're pretty serious about building software that

1068
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:23,960
makes gaming better I mean comms is a

1069
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:27,040
great example of that they saw a gap and they're like okay we're going to build

1070
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:31,800
something that legitimately addresses the need that people have so I'm

1071
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:37,400
interested to check this out funny that you should mention comms Dolby axen uh

1072
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:43,239
wasn't working like several times last week uh the crew and I use Dolby axen

1073
01:20:40,440 --> 01:20:49,239
yep so we actually used the Razer comms it's I think it has more features than I

1074
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:52,040
remember and it's kind of nice now yeah

1075
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:56,320
got to say yep they've improved a lot it's not bad um okay we've got a couple

1076
01:20:54,400 --> 01:21:00,000
more more topics Before We Say Goodbye because it's quarter after 6 already

1077
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:03,280
here uh Microsoft claims they are starting to crack down on fake apps in

1078
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:07,760
the Windows store this was originally posted by Sherman taker on the Forum and

1079
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:13,719
the article's from The Verge and basically Microsoft says they reached

1080
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:16,040
out to devs and told them that they have

1081
01:21:13,719 --> 01:21:20,120
to make their Dev their their apps compliant with their new guidelines

1082
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:25,199
which or that it can't have an icon that's too close to something that is

1083
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:30,120
not representative of what it is um I think there were a couple of other

1084
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:33,199
things but basically there have been

1085
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:36,040
devs that are just like swift key for

1086
01:21:33,199 --> 01:21:40,400
example if you go to the swift key you know what not the swift key devs I'm

1087
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:43,560
going to yeah not the swift key devs but if you search for swift key in the

1088
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:48,480
Windows store I'm going to try it now I've screenshotted it from before but

1089
01:21:45,719 --> 01:21:53,960
let's let's do a live test of whether a scam app that I

1090
01:21:50,199 --> 01:21:57,760
found um swift key keyboard has eight

1091
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:59,600
ratings for one star that is a $4 app

1092
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:02,679
the award-winning app for Android that replaces your onscreen keyboard giving

1093
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:08,960
you the fastest and easiest way to type now in Windows phone uh let's have a look at the

1094
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:13,280
reviews eight ratings where are the reviews here we go scam artist do not

1095
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:17,320
purchase this this is fake very unhappy fake app for $4 this is fake this app

1096
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:24,000
does nothing so apparently they've removed

1097
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:27,360
1500 apps based on how many scam apps I

1098
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:29,719
found over the last little bit um yeah

1099
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:34,239
that's probably not enough uh developers who refuse to comply with Microsoft's

1100
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:39,360
new guidelines are getting them removed but I think they've still got a lot more

1101
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:43,560
work to do but they're taking steps forward so that's good they're

1102
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:47,679
acknowledging the problem that's all I'm giving them credit for at this point

1103
01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:56,320
well they they're also dealing with it sort of I mean the one that the one I

1104
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:59,000
tested is still there so we'll see um

1105
01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:03,639
originally posted by deliv on the Forum the original article here that he's

1106
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:10,800
referring to is from Hardware 360 and allegedly Microsoft will offer the

1107
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:13,880
Windows 9 upgrade either free or for

1108
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,760
$20 so Microsoft will also have an

1109
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:21,159
awesome offer for Windows XP users to be clear that price is for Windows 8.1

1110
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:28,760
users another tidbit is that the Enterprise Windows 9 is rumored to be

1111
01:23:24,679 --> 01:23:32,600
completely metr free so Metro is the

1112
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:34,840
modern UI you know this one yay I can

1113
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:40,679
scroll back and forth except I don't want to do that okay um so cheap Windows

1114
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:43,719
upgrade offers aren't unprecedented they have done this kind of thing before the

1115
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:50,400
Windows store not the Windows phone store maybe uh I believe they are

1116
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:52,360
actually integrating them uh moving

1117
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:55,840
forward so I'm not sure I think there's some stuff that's in both or whatever

1118
01:23:54,600 --> 01:24:01,880
the case may be either way they have to address both of them they need to acknowledge the problem everywhere uh

1119
01:23:59,239 --> 01:24:06,560
you guys should put sponsors below the stream actually that's not a bad idea we

1120
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:10,239
probably should do that at some point all right well I think that pretty much

1121
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:16,560
wraps it up for the show today although I have one more straw poll for you guys

1122
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:19,239
before we go I'm just going to create it

1123
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:25,520
I'm going to put poor edel on the spot what did you think of

1124
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,880
edel's guest co-host

1125
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:33,360
spot all right let's come up with some options here I think it got better towards the end 10 out of 10 amazing

1126
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:39,840
would uh would love to have him again okay

1127
01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:46,320
let's go with five out of 10 uh got better towards the

1128
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:52,639
end and one out of 10 very why you doing it out of 10 if

1129
01:24:49,679 --> 01:24:58,199
there's if there are only three options and zero out of 10

1130
01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:59,719
L okay well so basically basically I'm

1131
01:24:58,199 --> 01:25:04,840
setting you up for I'm setting you up for failure here and I'm also saving you

1132
01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:08,239
from potentially their devastating negative feedback because you know

1133
01:25:06,679 --> 01:25:14,719
they're going to go with zero out of 10 just for the lws I've gotten used to

1134
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:14,719
negative feedback yeah we all

1135
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:24,119
have do you really just Spam it like that yeah that way everyone sees it

1136
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:28,840
edzel is too autistic Ed is too autistic wow wow speaking of getting used to all

1137
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:33,960
the negative feedback autism actually isn't a thing anymore apparently it's

1138
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:35,119
been just brought back into the uh oh no

1139
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:39,159
I'm thinking Asbergers you're thinking asers yeah as autism is definitely a

1140
01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:43,880
thing yeah that's definitely a thing I think Asbergers has been brought back

1141
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:46,520
under the autism umbrella yeah lus

1142
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:51,600
screen share 10 out of 10 amazing would love to have him again has half of the

1143
01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:57,920
votes with 21% of the votes being five out of 10 got better towards the end oh

1144
01:25:54,440 --> 01:25:57,920
there's a fair bit of zero out of 10

1145
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:04,320
LW and 9% say one out of 10 very

1146
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:09,440
unfortunate that Luke isn't here so it actually looks like the reaction to uh

1147
01:26:06,719 --> 01:26:15,159
to your co-hosting job today has been pretty darn positive so good job uh

1148
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:20,480
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1149
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1154
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:48,360
content thanks for tuning in guys and we'll see you again next

1155
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:50,800
week I need a laptop yeah you really

1156
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:55,719
need a laptop that that hurt you big time being able to see the topics and

1157
01:26:53,880 --> 01:27:01,040
like you could say like yeah I just forget how good

1158
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:05,520
that looks I know I love this thing I did a good job with that oh should we uh

1159
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:11,560
should we show them the uh the vinyl stickers oh yeah okay okay very short

1160
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:14,880
very short after party here we're going to we're going to go get are you going

1161
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:18,880
to grab them yeah okay I'll grab these ones if you want to grab at least one

1162
01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:18,880
from the other

1163
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:27,600
room so we got these awesome

1164
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:32,760
ah don't break please we got these awesome vinyl stickers for the walls

1165
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:37,360
here uh this has a paper covering over the top of it so that's why it looks so

1166
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:39,199
faded but it's like um I don't even

1167
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:45,080
remember what color it is is this a is this white an orange are you sure I

1168
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:48,520
think so no it's like a gray it's like an off-white oh it is white no it's

1169
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:56,119
white it's white so it's a white and orange Linus Tech tips that we have for

1170
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:57,159
one of the walls and then uh also did up

1171
01:27:56,119 --> 01:28:01,639
yeah baby when stealth

1172
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:06,960
logo so we're going to put that on one of the walls in the office and finally

1173
01:28:05,119 --> 01:28:11,600
yeah bro fist can they see it yep

1174
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:18,320
sweet there you go

1175
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:19,600
um I actually have uh we've put up one

1176
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:24,159
actually here do you want to take roist and W stealth away before they get

1177
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:27,960
damaged it's not faded it just has like a sheet of paper yeah there's a paper

1178
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:32,920
covering over it to keep the multiple pieces in place here I'm uh I got them

1179
01:28:30,199 --> 01:28:36,480
together there we go um actually I have uh an example of what they're going to

1180
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:42,880
look like on the wall so check this out you guys it's freaking

1181
01:28:39,719 --> 01:28:45,480
awesome I think so anyway so this is a

1182
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:54,239
sneak preview of what the whole room water cooling setup looks like so

1183
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:57,560
far if my uh if my stupid

1184
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:59,880
Dropbox would automatically upload okay

1185
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:03,760
or we could just go to edel's Twitter uh or we could go to edel's

1186
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:07,280
Twitter do you have a shot of the deal and the uh and the piping and the

1187
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:13,199
systems in from just now I have like a bunch of features uh okay you try to do

1188
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:19,639
that while I try to do this and whoever does it first is a

1189
01:29:16,639 --> 01:29:19,639
winner

1190
01:29:19,719 --> 01:29:28,000
okay um so I'm like mailing to myself

1191
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:32,119
because Apple's I took the picture on my iPhone Apple's thing is like ah boom

1192
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:38,520
super Broken Oh this is your Panorama oh okay

1193
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:41,719
yeah that should be good okay oh you

1194
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:44,679
broke it actually I might like my shot

1195
01:29:41,719 --> 01:29:51,000
better no I'm opening my picture okay I'll show this one first okay so there

1196
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:53,560
we go uh do you want to just get rid of

1197
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:57,719
us okay so that's a panorama shot of the office

1198
01:29:54,840 --> 01:30:02,800
um basically you can see this is edel's workstation Brandon's workstation here's

1199
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:07,520
the copper piping coming down for each of the systems this one's going to be

1200
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:11,440
for um the potential new employee who I'm going to hear back from this weekend

1201
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:15,920
this is for taran's workstation this is an extra this is for my workstation and

1202
01:30:13,639 --> 01:30:21,800
here are the vinyl decal on the wall and then here I'm just going to switch back

1203
01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:24,320
to this so that I can go into my email

1204
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:29,719
without oh I just heard from Chris from NC NC challenges lonus Tech tips to

1205
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:35,520
Mario Kart they watching I guess we should have known that was

1206
01:30:31,719 --> 01:30:37,719
coming can I be on their team

1207
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:41,679
no what do you think this is you're going to abandon us in our hour of need

1208
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:48,920
they're better

1209
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:51,520
wow wow it's not it this is about family

1210
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:57,280
this is not well okay if we want to talk about family I do game with them pretty

1211
01:30:54,360 --> 01:31:02,280
much every night uhhuh with uh voice chant all

1212
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:05,639
versus just working over

1213
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:08,199
here yeah so someone says I should fire

1214
01:31:05,639 --> 01:31:10,840
edel actually no one said that that was just what I was

1215
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:16,880
thinking oh I can't even believe you anyway so this is uh this is a not

1216
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:23,600
panorama shot which I personally find a little bit easier to digest cuz I'm old

1217
01:31:19,719 --> 01:31:25,800
of uh this is teran's water cooled

1218
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:30,159
system right here oh you took that like recently this is the extra uh here's my

1219
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:35,719
machine over in the corner running off of this one and then we've got bro fist

1220
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:38,639
and when stealth sort of centered look

1221
01:31:35,719 --> 01:31:44,440
at much extra space whatever uh sort of centered on the wall in there so yeah

1222
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:47,199
love it those pipes look sketchy what

1223
01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:51,639
looks sketchy about them oh maybe that's stuff oh that's just a that's a label

1224
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:57,080
yeah it's no big deal these are copper pipes that were soldered by Luke's dads

1225
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:58,880
so need to be painted needs to be

1226
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:04,880
painted I don't want to paint them I like the copper Co yeah we have um like

1227
01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:09,159
can we polish it somehow yes okay uh Luke's dad gave us this um this stuff

1228
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:14,320
that we can use to polish it quite quickly and then we're planning to paint

1229
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:18,400
uh a varnish layer over the top so that they really shine I'm uh I'm super

1230
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:23,719
stoked going to look awesome all right guys thanks for watching peace out see

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01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:23,719
you next week