okay and we're back and hopefully the audio is fine it sounds fine to me it's
fine for some people yeah apparently it was fine to some people so I suspect it
was more of a twitch issue than anything else but since we're restarting the show
we have to do a very brief thing here so we're going to cover the Intel x99 chipset in their eight core brand new
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really yeah like not in a long time nicer than I thought it was yeah it's
really good except you need to make an Asian
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uh all right twitch chat I'm sorry we're done with the technical
difficulties for now all right so our first news topic this week and this is
this was po this was removed from the Forum since the original post by
Marcus UK so the article here is from
Gamespot and Amazon acquires Twitch in A1 billion deal see Gamespot agrees with
me $1 billion now this flies in the face of
the original rumors that YouTube was going to acquire twitch and we were
actually talking about this in the car on the way back from the office the
other day and I think the Amazon
acquisition makes sense but I think you were saying that YouTube might have been
a more might have been a more sensible option depending on Whose perspective
we're talking about so I think it's better that Amazon bot
twitch just because you don't have that Consolidated of uh with regard to videoing I was just
playing Devil's Advocate because Google
has acquired a ton of things and they haven't really ruined them except for
like ways and what else I think there are people
who would argue that they've kind of ruined YouTube compared to the sort of
the Indie vibe that YouTube had going on at the beginning but honestly I think it
was going to go that direction eventually anyway because they were
going to have to figure out a monetization model it's just that Google
figured that out and YouTube might have come to a very similar conclusion on
their own if they had stayed independent except that they might not have been
able to ever build the kind of infrastructure to support you know HD
and now 4K that Google has managed to build to back it up IIT s you trying to
say that YouTube was ruined or wasn't I'm trying to say some people say it is
I personally don't think so yeah they're crazy yeah I mean I think that YouTube
has been great for Content creators and it's been pretty darn good with some
obvious hiccups like the recent go plus integration and that's not being
consumers yeah and the fact that we can't upload anything right now but by
and large it's better than it used to be I mean I used to have issues uploading
files all the time now it's like weird
when it happens apparently I look awkward you look awkward I think we both
look awkward because the camera is like super awkward and we far away and stuff
but so what would you have seen happening then if Google acquired twitch
instead of Amazon I think it would be largely the
same just because I don't think either of them want to ruin a good thing
because twitch is as big big as it is
just because that's what they do they've only been around three years Jus in TV
was longer that's true but the whole
game streaming thing has only been around for three years on
twitch.tv or twitch I guess is their it's their current brand which is more
reason not to tamper with anything just
because who else really understands game streaming besides switch and isubu TV
who else now that's it that's pretty much it so they can't really bring in
their own experience just because they don't have that experience so I think by
and large either company would would have left twitch alone
hard to say because even though twitch has so much more experience with live
game streaming I think that if if Google
acquired them and this was this was this was an opinion that I saw kind of echoed
in a number of different places I think had Google acquired twitch they would
have been the little brother of YouTube and the YouTube Team could claim to have
a lot of experience with game streamers because typically archived content even
from Big Game streamers will do better on YouTube over the long term than it
does on Twitch in fact twitch has even revised their archiving policies to
delete to well to try to delete most of people's old footage unless they're
saving it as a highlight reel cuz no one's really watching it it's just
taking up space I watch it okay you watch it but but would it kill you to go
on their YouTube channel to watch
it okay well from my perspective I watch
tournaments uh when they're not in the right time zone and or like if I just
miss it so I'll usually go to that twitch broadcast channel and watch the
the vods on there whereas I would have to like YouTube and
search some random channel to find
right you know this is the this is an interesting take on this I've got a few
people in the twitch chat suggesting that Amazon was actually buying the
streaming technology that twitch has been using I don't know if I buy that I
mean Amazon's already got their on demand video it's not like they don't
have the backbone to stream video um I I
really don't think that that's it I mean I think that there's probably a trick or
two that twitch has developed over the last few years here that is that is
helping them to do what they're doing but having actually chatted with someone
pretty high up at twitch around this time last year I mean they were they
were br forcing a lot of it at least a year ago and there isn't really a way
without building data centers all over
the place to make streaming much less
demanding which happens to be exactly what Amazon has and that's why that's a
marriage made in heaven and mind you it's much the in much the same way that
Google and twitch would have been as well because Google also has data
centers all over the place that would have been able to reduce the latency
that we all experience with twitch as well as potentially increase the
quity and reliability of the streams so
I I totally disagree that Amazon bought
them for the technology I don't think their technology is anything special
compared to what Amazon
does someone says edel stop staring at lonus he can't
resist oh okay fine I'll I'll stare at
that I'm trying to listen to you and that's the best way to listen you're
trying to listen to me that's your first mistake yeah I'm just going to to zoom this in a little
bit there we go hopefully that's a wow
because the camera's crooked I look super tall which is not the cas at all
I'm actually taller than lonus someone says now you have a baby
you look all grown up I actually have two two kids now and uh I probably look
grown up because I look old because I am
super super tired this week it has been a crazy week uh should we talk about it
a little bit your baby no not my baby
the the week we've had what would you know about my baby uh
no name yeah actually we have named her
now really yes I basically just gave up
and yvon went with it no I I'm not going to I don't reveal the kids names on uh I
don't reveal the kids names on the stream or anything it's wona yeah it's
not it's not wona but uh yeah been we
have named the baby so we came in on
Monday morning and since then it's been
pretty much a blur we have uh okay so
our main office room all the editing um I painted it while you guys were doing
arts and crafts wait Monday really yeah
yeah we got started Monday I think wait what no it's it was supposed to be 3
days and today was the fourth wasn't it
oh yeah you're right what did we do
Monday well Brandon wasn't back
yet whoa what did we this week feels like
it's been two weeks have we been at this for five days no no no no no I don't
think so okay anyway the point is let's say
Tuesday let's assume it was Tuesday Tuesday Morning um we tore apart the
office office so all the workstation PCS all the editing machines we tore them
out of the office and Scattered them throughout the building because there
was no space for anything we piled all the desks in the middle and Nick and I
painted the room then um so what were
you doing on the first day I don't remember like
I what which was the first day was it Monday or Tuesday Tuesday let's say it
was Tuesday okay build any PCS on the
first day I thought on the first
day Luke was drilling holes into things
right so the cases we picked needed to
have two holes drilled in the top of each of them before we could actually
install any hardware because there was a clearance issue with the radiators in
spite of our pre-planning that we hoped was going to work so Luke spent a lot of
time doing that on the first day and then I started building some of the
computers putting processors on motherboards you helped with that
installing RAM power supply power supply that was first day yeah that was first
day and then second day we did we finish
the computers the second day I think second day we did liquid cooling yeah so
we finished building the PCS which when it's five PCS is actually somewhat timec
consuming especially when lonus gets abandoned by Luke so that he can test
Intel's new fourth gen processors that second day cuz lukee helped on the first
day yeah I think we're I think we're getting this it's all been a blur we've
taken so much video and you promised
that the videos about this are going to be awesome right uh now you're on the spot you
asked if they would be good not awesome and I said I would make it good okay I
guess that's what we're going to have to uh to go with we've got people
complaining about audio sync issues again but the reality of it is guys is I
think it's just just one of those things where yeah it's nothing to do with mine
is just broken da no no no those are out those were released today the all new
fourth gen 8 Core Extreme Edition all that good stuff so
um would it help if I put the computer here so
that I told you it looked like I was staring at your crotch okay if I put the
computer here maybe that'll maybe that'll help a little bit um so on the
second day we finished building the computers and I don't know whether it's
because Swift Tech's fittings are super tight or their tubing is a little bit
big when the weather's really hot but we were having a lot of trouble getting
fittings on and those computers took
more than a full day of working to
install fittings in and install tubing in so then after that that's when Nick
was working on redoing the to mount the radiator to the outside of
the house right I don't know about that part just because I was busy fiddling
with the fittings the entire time yeah Ed was the one we I actually didn't even
know how swift teex quick disconnects worked and Ed was the one who figured
out that we have to what does it come with it comes with a socket a G1 quarter
socket and then we have to put an end cap on instead right yeah yeah how did I
even figure that out I think I may have just been trying
to undo the quick disconnect and then I
couldn't figure that out and just twisting it things came off and I may
have picked up the wrong piece and tried to put that on but it worked out yeah
yeah so we figured that out and then through during that time Nick was uh
realizing along with me that our original plan for mounting the radiators
on the fascia board like under the roof overhang was not going to work it was
way too big big and way too heavy like
that Biz was not happening so Nick had
to figure out how to build a like a wooden frame around the whole thing and
then Mount the radiators to that and then we had to find a way to get that on
the roof and I think that was what we did on the third day we mounted the
radiator to the roof in the
morning third day was wasn't that
yesterday though yeah was that third day yeah we mounted the radiator yesterday
and then today four days what do on Monday the afternoon yesterday and
today we have filled the loop now a
total of three times due to various leaking and configuration
issues so that's been our week this week uh we can move on to actually I'm going
to try to uh I'm going to try to upload this file again just because you know I
can I can have a dream that maybe YouTube won't be broken uh the radiator
isn't actually on the roof right it's uh
in between the houses so here are the houses one house our house it's like
over here and no matter where the sun is
it's actually in the shade so it's not going to get
cooked yeah we were actually kind of fortunate that there was somewhere
sensible to put that because that wasn't
necessarily um a thing that we plannned
why is the piping not in the wall no way
Firefox is working and chrome isn't for
our upload
brilliant freaking jokes man jokes man
are we even using the Steed water no we're not right nope yeah it's just from
the hose yeah it's from the hose cuz that was how the only way we were able
to fill it um so lonus went up on the
ladder radiator we brought up a hose
into the bathroom and fill it that way this might
look wrong that definitely looks all
wrong yeah so that was the only way we could even get water into it because we
are not using a closed system it's not
sealed we actually have like a a fill
tube that goes up above the highest
level of the of the piping that's in the room so the only way to get any in there
cuz there's no room to even pour is to put the hose in because if we brought it
down any lower as soon as the pump stops
the system would back up and pour water
which we discovered the hard way once we discovered that it wasn't quite high
enough were you there for that no I I think I was outside oh no it poured
water all over me ah yeah I have gotten sprayed with water quite a few times in
the last few days it has been extremely exciting
all right so why don't we move on to our next topic here NVIDIA will allegedly
skip 800 Series Desktop cards and the
next generation will be called 900
series this was posted by Rock 1 M1
originally on the lus tech tips Forum so
I guess do you want to give the basic facts here why don't we just if you put
your leg down Wen really we can put this on both of our our legs then we can both
look like we're staring at each other it was just like room so there's not much
to talk about yeah so the fact is the rumor is that in order to align with
what was it the notebook naming scheme they were going to name the notebook
line G9 or was it GTX 900 yeah or 900m
but then they thought that it would be confusing because the desktop was still
on 700 and the notebooks are the
notebooks were rebranded 800 a little while ago so they're in this weird
position where they've they've done this at times I mean they've done it right
now where the notebook ones are a series
ahead of the desktop ones even though they're running this completely the same
architecture um but I guess if they
found themselves two gens ahead on mobile that might get extremely
confusing and then or if they're planning to refresh both at the same
time then now's a good time to just kind of skip one and catch up it's not the
first time they've done it there was never a GTX 380 was that just for mobile uh no there
was never I don't think there was ever a GTX 300 series at all cuz we got yeah
they scrapped that yeah yeah I think the the rumor was they just completely
scrapped the project entirely well the announcement will come
rumored come on September 9th wow that's
really soon we've got a lot of stuff going on right now with all the new
Intel stuff uh ddr4 so our first video
about the uh in the NVIDIA about the Intel Haswell e 8 Core Extreme Edition
will actually be coming I think Tuesday
night so Luke has run all the benchmarks I've scripted the video but we haven't
had a single video editing workstation up and running in order laptop to
actually make it so well there was a laptop but we were using that to make
the videos that we've released over the last couple days so yeah there's been no
time but guys this thing is a beast
Intel has finally done it they have
caught up to the mainstream platform I mean I don't know about the rest of you
but I have found it extremely frustrating that for must be about 5
years now you've been able to get better technology by buying into a mainstream
platform than by buying into an Enthusiast platform I mean what's the
deal with that and we're not even just talking about CPU architecture so ever
since the uh the LGA 1156 LGA 1366 days
ever since then you've been able to get you know things like um Quicks sync
technology for quick video transcoding you've been able to get more usb3 ports
native usb3 ports more native SATA 3
connectors or even native SATA 3 connectors at all back in the x58 days
like Thunderbolt all this new technology has been coming to the mainstream LGA
1155 and LGA 1150 platforms before we
get it on LGA 2011 well now all of that
changes there is actually a justifiable
reason to go LGA 20113 so the CPUs are all more course I
mean that was supposed to be a big selling point even back with x58 was it
can support more than four cores we had six cores the problem is that the only
one on the in the consumer space was the 980x it was a and the
990x and zons I guess but these are not
these are not really consumer grade price points they were thousand CPUs so
everyone just went with quad course on the mainstream platform because a few
more PCI Express Lanes in triple Channel or quad Channel memory is not enough to
justify a CPU architecture that is inherently anywhere from 8 to 15% slower
depending on which generational Gap we're looking at regardless of how much
memory bandwidth it has so now with LG
20113 we are getting the same CPU
architecture so it's Haswell or Haswell e but basically Haswell e is just
Haswell with more Hells we are getting
ddr4 which right now is very expensive
for not much of a performance gain but in the future will give us much higher
speed memory we're getting sad Channel memory we're getting more PCI Express
Lanes so 40 on the highend chips and then I believe don't quote me on this I
believe it's either 26 or 28 PCI Express Lanes on the lower end chip we're
getting the same feature set so we can get Thunderbolt enabled motherboards
which is really awesome like the x99 deluxe from ASUS has that Thunderbolt
header so you can add their Thunderbolt 2 expansion card we are getting the
works and it is what's
up now are uh saying I'm quiet oh you're
quiet sorry kind of got on the whole Intel quation I'm on kind of a thing
because the problem with LGA 2011 was
there was one CPU that was Within Reach
for general consumers and it was either the 382k or the 4820k for the last
couple of generations the problem was that was a quad core chip it was a
quadcore chip that was more expensive on a more expensive platform form with more
expensive RAM for literally no performance Improvement unless you
really need the extra memory bandwidth or you really need a few more PCI
Express Lanes which most people don't need unless they also need more
processing cores so in order to even get
a sensible configuration on LGA 2011 you were spending $600 plus dollars on your
chip not exactly uh compelling sort of
you know gamer type of price point well
now on LGA 2011 3 for around 400 bucks
you can get a six core so all of a sudden the entire Intel lineup makes
sense again so on the mainstream you got quad cores up to nice high clocked ones
like their new Devil's Canyon the 4790k then you pay another I guess it's
around another $75 to $100 you get two
more cores plus a more robust more
Enthusiast grade platform and ddr4 support then beyond that you get a few
more PCI Express Lanes although I think that lower end one is going to be the
more appealing one for most enthusiasts and then at the very high end there's
the extreme Edition the whole thing finally makes sense again so that's what
I'm excited about and yeah we've got people talking
about it in twitch chat that six core for 389 looks like a good CPU for the
money damn right because even though single-threaded performance isn't going
to be any better overclocking is solid
ddr4 is going to help a little bit and if you need the extra cores like let's
say you want to I don't know output videos while you game then you will have
it someone says hire Luke back
please lonus everyone is ignoring you and staring at
edil Luke is not fired well not any more than he's
usually fired Luke is at packs so he was
driving last night and he's doing show coverage right now so he and Brandon are
are doing a great job of that presumably
they're asking him to poke me they always do this they do this with Luke
too Luke poke lus why is this room so hot as if I'm not also looking at the
twitch chat you know what this isn't nearly as hot as it usually is we have a
fan blowing and we have the window open window's not open the window's not
open oh you're going to want to open that window that explains why it's so hot in
here
oh I love this show all right so in other news that I
suspect almost nobody cared about origin
PC and AMD have officially made up so
origin will once again give buyers the option to use AMD cards in their origin
PCS this was posted by Juan Wu 26 on the
Forum um did you even hear about this no
but I read up on what the comments said and apparently origin PC just got butt
hurt is that right just because they didn't uh they weren't informed by AMD
about the Hawaii GPU launch okay so there's a couple of things
um so rumor number one is that NVIDIA
had a program where they paid origin
copious amounts of money to not sell AMD
but that's just a rumor but that is just a rumor um NVIDIA has come out and said
that's not true um so that's all we know about that uh
what I do know is that origin was not at the AMD Hawaii GPU
event and main gear PC had a demo
system up running Hawaii gpus at the
event when origin did not allegedly have any access
to said GPU so the rumor
is that origin basically was super upset about that and was like what you don't
want us to sell your gpus fine we're not going to sell your gpus anyway so
apparently they have kissed and made up and uh AMD apologized which you know I
think was probably merited cuz it's one thing if you invite
you know all your system builder Partners to come and showcase their rigs
it's another if you pick one favorite one and then leave all the others out or
even one of the budget concern I don't
think so I mean that Hawaii event cost a
fortune maybe that's why there was a budget issue just getting everyone there
they blew it all on lus wow I mean they had I think they had
over aund Tech journalists at that
event so they could have just not invited me and Austin and they could
have probably afforded to have origin there and then this whole thing could
have been avoided but who's more important really
like me and Austin yeah or origin PC I
think we have to do a straw pull straw pull time guys straw po do you want to
see what I'm typing you can look at my crotch there we go who okay this is me
looking at the laptop and this is me looking at his crotch this there's a
difference lonus and Austin origin PC
you know what's funny is we're actually going to be covering a really cool new
product from origin at the show I'm not I'm not down on Origin at all they're
cool guys they have great products it's just uh just having some fun at their
expense right now all right here we go here we go I'm
sorry you're not logged in yeah there you go what the
deuce all right guys I'm sharing this with you
now I'm trying to trying desperately to
you know I'm actually really excited about the technological improvements
that I think the Amazon acquisition is going to bring to Twitch what's what
what do you think is going to change I think it will improve reliability
because Amazon is reliable I mean
AWS yeah is reliable except for those times that it has gone down and led to
dozens of sites being offline okay when
when AWS has a problem I think the new
news about it gets Amplified I don't think that's because AWS has tons of
problems compared to other services I think it's just that because they host
so much it's a lot more noticeable when
there's some kind of an issue I
think I think that might be an issue in
itself just because if twitch goes down
with like abson hosting it and like 10 other sites that you
might go to also go down right you know what are you left with whereas if those
go down you still have twitch so you can you can watch us well I suspect that
they will be I mean unless you know an entire data center loses power and is
underwater or something like that I suspect you won't see an outright outage
of something like twitch you might see the service slow down in much the same
way that we often see happen now but it has happened right right hasn't it
pretty sure where it's like oh blah blah blah is
down and it's all leads to Amazon being
down very rare but I think the thing we can all agree on is that lonus and
Austin were much more important to invite to the Hawaii event than origin
PC so we're really sorry about that origin you know you guys uh you guys you
guys tried you know you tried to be as cool as me and Austin but unfortunately
that wasn't going to happen all right what do we got for our next topic
aha valve will optimize their streaming
service with NVIDIA Hardware so this is
from the NVIDIA blog let's go ahead and share my screen with you guys
here there we go valin NVIDIA just made
game streaming better than ever last week valve officially released support
for Hardware en coding on NVIDIA GeForce gpus in the steam client pair the
support with one of the latest GeForce GTX gpus and you can play remotely from
your PC connected to any steam enabled system in your home at resolutions of up
1080 60p
so I think this is kind of NVIDIA making
a lot of noise about something that was bound to happen eventually and really
not that different from much anything else anyhow but it's great I mean have
you tried steam in home streaming no no okay it is awesome and I've actually
spent a little bit of time on Steam Chat with the lead Dev for Ste in home
streaming um and he was I was chatting to him about sort of video encoding and
decoding and what they're doing with respect to lowering latency and it's
absolutely fascinating because they basically have to rackle it from a
different angle for every different combination of encoders and decoders in
order to make sure that everything is compatible and everything not only works
but is extremely low latency so you
don't feel that Network lag when you move the keyb and or when you press the
keybard move the mouse what do I play overing home streaming almost anything
I've even played FPS games is that to The Shield or no so one of the
potential problems with streaming within
the home so from a a more powerful PC to
a smaller device or a laptop or another PC was I saw potential competing
standards as a roadblock the fact that
NVIDIA had their own technology where it was like okay you need a GeForce GPU you
got to install GeForce experience on your PC you got to have an NVIDIA Shield
branded device so whether it's a portable handheld or the tablet and you
got to have a supported router and that is it you plug in all these things and
then all the check marks come on and it works so I kind of saw that as a
potential problem problem compared to valve solution which is okay do you have
a graphics card great do you have a CPU
also great do you have some other thing great it works except the other thing
has to run Steam and the first thing has to run Steam as well and then depending
on the hardware you were going to either have a really great experience if you
had nice fast Hardware encoding and decoding or you were going to have a
super crummy experience so for example LGA 11
1156 CPUs were available in either dual
core with onboard Graphics or quad core
with no onboard Graphics configurations the dual core would have
been able to support Hardware accelerated
decoding the quad core could not so there was some tricky stuff with
respect to making sure you had a configuration that was going to work with steam and home streaming so now
seeing NVIDIA and valve work together on this I now have complete confidence that
whether you're going to run Windows or you're going to run Steam OS people who
run AMD people who run AMD are still
going to be okay because valve is going to work with AMD as well Val because AMD
doesn't even have a competing solution they don't have free stream or whatever
it is they would call something like that you think they will so many people
have actually just gone with NVIDIA and
like completely abandoned AMD is it's funny you mention that
because the market share isn't that much different than it was 5 years ago AMD's
always kind of been in that 20 to 35%
range of the discret desktop GPU
Market that's all they really
got AMD free stream we have to start
that we have to make that happen we have to tell AMD that they have to have like
um like a a Freel handheld and then they
have to have like AMD free stream and and that should that should be
awesome for the AMD
people I'd be really interested to see valve I mean I'm I'm hoping that this is
an announcement they make in the next six months to a year but it would put
the final nail in the NVIDIA game stream coffin for me if valve released an
Android steam client and
I I see them potentially heading this
way already they ported portal to Android they ported halflife 2 to
Android they already have a steam
app so how far are we away from Steam
being your gaming Hub potentially on Android as well with all of these other
fantastic steam features running natively on Android or being streamed
running natively on Android that's what I'd like to see because then with valve
behind it I mean all the respect in the world world to the Limelight guys every
time I've used Limelight the latency has not been comparable to NVIDIA game
stream valve on the other hand I have faith that they could make that happen
and they could make streaming from your PC AMD powered Invidia powered Intel
onboard powered who cares I think they could make that a great experience
streaming to any device that has a beefy enough um h264 decoder chip on board
apparently NVIDIA did ports NVIDIA did the ports themselves
don't think so I know that NVIDIA was deeply involved in the ports but valve
was also involved in porting those games and even then I mean the fact that valve
was even willing to entertain
that I don't know we'll see I mean it's going to be it's going to be a big it's
going to be a big battle for what is the next gaming platform of choice Beyond on
the PC and Beyond really not so much the PC cuz I don't think the PC is going
anywhere but beyond the console it's either going to be some type of
lightweight PC something like an Alienware Alpha or something like uh any
other sort of lightweight desktop type machine running Steam OS or some other
Linux derivative or even Windows or it's
going to be Android and if you look at the overall strategy valve and NVIDIA
both obviously believe in different things here with valve thinking we're heading the direction of steam PCS or
whatever they want to call them and NVIDIA thinking we're headed towards Android but I don't think either of them
really Minds if it's the other one or some mix of the two because NVIDIA can
still sell you gpus over here and valve can still sell you games over
here so I wasn't listening at all I was
reading twitch chat did they say anything interesting or are they just
telling you to poke me more something about your crotch maybe
ah yes my crotch my crotch is is uh definitely one of the top subjects of
discussion on the stream today love it so originally posted by
Mech 777 the article from Hardware
360.com I'm just going to go ahead and fire this baby up here Witcher 3 Dev
promises only 30 FPS on
consoles what w although the funny thing
about this is that
uh they basically said okay we're going to be aiming for the highest resolution
possible but full HD 1080p would likely
not be possible and the only thing they could promise was 30 FPS so essentially
even though you know there have been some complaints about there being a
console release at least what the uh you
know PC Master race subreddit can uh
take some consolation in is the the fact that the experience on the console is
going to be significantly degraded is David still here David yeah yeah is can
you get the door when it rings in a minute thank you UPS is outside I think
they've got a uh Cooler Master power supply for edel's new dual Titan 12 core
editing workstation yeah that's your new power supply man and something else H yeah
David's gonna David's gonna grab it we should say hi to the UPS guy
I don't think you can hear me I think he's got his Bluetooth headset in have you ever really gotten into a
Witcher game yeah I love The Witcher games okay tell me what's appealing
about them I've tried both Witcher one and Witcher 2 enlighten me I find that
the character interactions
are above the standard that you might be
used to for most games uh the main character is actually kind of shitty he
like no offense no offense to the voice
actor or the writers but isn't that by
default isn't that who you just offended saying no offense doesn't make it
unoffensive okay fine full offense to
anyone involved but geralt is kind of a
shitty character he's always like dead pan and I don't know he's just not a
very good character but but everyone else is a good character and they
develop and like their interactions with uh you
are interesting and like it's all based on novels so like they are actually
fleshed out and uh just like playing in
that that world that actually exists in
detail somewhere uh is nicer than other games
that's that's what I like about it like how they create their creatures they
have a lore you can read up on them so on and so forth hey David could we
actually get those those things yeah do mind I just want to
find out what this is I'm hoping it's Dominator platinum ddr4 and we can show
that to you guys okay because I have
I've tried both times and within actually the funny thing is with Witcher
2 I even got like an hour and a half in
because I was looking for a consistent benchmarking spot and I just I did not
find it compelling at all thank you sir do you like fantasy
RPGs anyway I made it all the way through Dragon
Age one uh yeah Dragon Age 2 I did not find
nearly as compelling that was kind of shitty compared to uh this one Dragon
Age one was really great though I really enjoyed it I don't have a
knife I do what is this who's it
from oh it is from Corsair but I don't know what it is it
doesn't feel heavy enough to be dominator platinums wa chat guess what
it is let's play a guessing game live
unboxings
okay oh am I not supposed to swear I don't care okay try not to drop drop F
Bombs all over the place you know oh
it's the new um Corsair link thing cool
so this is supposed a pretty big improvement over the old one wow it's
much lower profile I don't know how much they've shown of this yet so I'm going
to just kind of put that back in the box for now but uh cool so we're definitely
going to check that out and then the other
one here you want to do the honors I like how you just toss things ah it's
It's Not Fragile it's Corsair it's made by Corsair so it's pretty
good unlikely to break we've actually thrown horse aair power supplies out of
out of cars and drop them off roofs speaking of great power supplies though
this is one of the finest power supplies available on the market 80 plus Platinum
1200 watt fully modular so this is a vs
series power supply from Cooler Master because we realized as we were building
the rigs for the whole room liquid cooling setup that we had asked Cooler
Master for 750 wat power supplies with the assumption that I was going to be
getting one of the Titan blacks well after much debate and much um
concealment of the actual are just like yeah let give me
the Titan yeah so I ended up with an old
GTX 285 that we had lying around
somewhere in my rig and Ed ended up with two Titans and we kind of went shoot is
750 watts even enough probably not so
cuz he's got three graphics cards in there uh what is it the two Titans and a
Quadro yeah two Titans and a Quadro plus the 10 gbit Ethernet card plus the 12
core processor so we're talking about
the kind of rig that these types of power supplies are legitimately made for
actually we should actually like measure how much it actually takes we should
measure like when you're when you're um dinking around in Cinema 4D we should
have a look at what kind of power consumption when you're hitting the RAM
the gpus and the CPU all same used that
much uh during octane oh that's right now so yeah it's
all it's all what I'm going to give the floor to you while I go get a drink of
water um would you like one too can you get my energy drink in the other room
sure yeah I'll grab your energy drink but I want you to justify because people
haven't really I think been able to
understand why anyone could possibly need a 12 core CPU 64 gigs of RAM dual
Titan blacks and a Quadro in one machine
can you justify what the heck it is you do around here that you need that kind
of power for I'll be right back justify that
okay where to start where to
start all right so for the the 12 core
processor um well I use after effects
pretty much exclusively these days no that's that's a lie uh most for the big
projects like the build guides I guess that's it these days um I use after
effects to do Motion Graphics for the intro the lower thirds and then I've
also started to use Cinema 4D and I have
the octane renderer engine which is
fully GPU accelerated so to put this
to I guess size this up against each other uh my six core processor would
render a frame in about six minutes one GPU would render one frame
in 1 minute 30 seconds I'll be back actually I'm not quite ready
yet two gpus would be around 45 seconds
I can't do math uh so three it's bound
to be what 20ish 25 seconds someone do
the math for me
please porn why are we talking about porn I don't get
this uh the yeah it's a one frame and
six second or 6 minutes because it's like 3D Ray tracing no it's actually
like Photon something or other but it's definitely more intensive than 2D video
would you like to sit back down yeah
sure I noticed in my absence you just completely took over the entire couch
awesome so had you made it through all of the components yet uh I don't think
I've Justified the RAM yet okay so in
After Effects to use multiprocessor rendering you have to assign each core
some RAM ideally you want to assign it
three gigs each I don't have enough for that so I so I assign it two G GS that's
what 2 * 12 no 24 because it counts the
separate threads as a core right 4 48
gigs so that's 48 I guess I could no
that brings it up to no you used to have no you did you didn't used to be able to
do it because you had six cores 12 threads 12 * 3 is
36 and you had 32 gigs whereas with the
new 64 gig config you'll have 24 threads time yeah
you still won't have yeah I can still only assign 12 gigs to it yeah but you
know what we could try as an experiment we could try turning off
hyperthreading because hyperthreading will give you a uh you know probably a
10 to 15% boost but you might get more
of a boost by being able to assign more RAM to your course interesting we should
play around with that that's going to be cool anyway sorry some mac users have
allegedly disabled some cores but that's not hyperthreading no
you can you can oh because the Mac Pro only has four memory slots but then you
can load it with ECC RAM so h t it I
still have more slots on there right yeah you have eight slots could get more
RAM um yes a uh ASUS has a beta BIOS for
the x79 deluxe that supports uh 16 gig
dims but only certain ones not the ones
that we originally obtained for the project okay so sorry you were
justifying why you need why you need all these uh I Justified the Cinema 4D just
because uh linear performance scaling
with graphics cards which is amazing I think I need two more Titans honestly
cuz Okay take the cost of a Titan right and
then ,000
take count how many hours an extra Titan
would save me in rendering in the one project we've everever done one so far
more it could be more if I could do things faster I could do more of those
and that's how I'm trying to justify two more Titans well you've got two why
don't we see how it goes from
there anyway so because of him I don't
even have a DisplayPort output so my LG monitor is running on a DVI to HDMI
adapter and HDMI in at 50 HZ so I'm
going to have to obtain some other kind of GPU for my system and when that
happens I guess around the same time we're going to add another pump to the
whole room setup so that bleeding air from the system is much much easier
because right now the only way to bleed the air from the lines that go down and
then up to each system from the top of the room is to disconnect all the other
systems so that the main pump is only pushing through one system so that we
can get all the air bubbles out but what's cool is the way we have it
working right now none of the systems
even have pumps on so if we could close
the door to the server room the fans are on the fans are running you still want
fans running but we wouldn't have to have them all running so the way that
it's set up right now if we could close the door to the server room we could actually have the room be extremely
quiet which uh how loud is the the red
not bad not bad but what I'm thinking is we might get um like a variable power
supply so we could dial it into 8 volts or something like that cuz with 20
Noctua industrial N2 fans and then five
quad radiators it's way more than enough for the systems that we have in there we
actually had it running passively for hours today with three of the systems
idling and Ed's 12 core priming and we
you managed to raise it what like two degrees what on passive yeah passive
without the fans even running 100% it was 40 8° C idle was 30 yeah I mean but
um when you had it priming it went up to about 50° C Max
right it's about the same was it about the same okay maybe we didn't even
manage to increase the temps but I'm thinking in the winter we may not have
to disconnect from the whole room system what we might do is just turn off all
the fans and then if we have enough or or turn on only a few of the fans so
what I'm thinking is as like a phase two if Luke and I
could find a way to have a temperature
controlled um switch for each Bank of fans so as
water temperature reaches X degre
another bank of fans turns on and as it reaches X degrees another bank turns on
and then they turn off to prevent the entire water cooling system from getting
so cold that we have condensation problems so that that could be like a
phase two where it actually intelligently maintains its temperature
at a specific setting can you set uh fan
curve without without a PC connected to it we yeah there would be a way actually
yes a t balancer can be configured with
extra mini controllers and those will run oh I geta
you you program them so you don't actually have to have the software
interacting with it that could even work
stupid it's it's so stupid it might just
be brilliant this is getting stupider and stupider I love
it oo I'm excited oh we had someone in
the twitch chat figure out the tea balancer thing before I said it so we got to give them a shout out for that
who is it who is it where are you I can't find it because I don't have that
stupid plugin installed in my browser so I can't scroll up anyway good job um you
know what we should probably do our spa spots before we completely run out of
time today so first up is 54 Club so
guys to be clear the 54 Club offer has
actually changed a little bit so now
instead of saving $15 on your first package they are actually going to send
you all the clothing that you ordered and they're just going to put cash money
in the Box for you $10 cash bo like actually cash like dollar bills or
whatever ever that is that is it so
rather than like an online discount
they're offering $10 cash back in the packaging that doesn't make any sense
like okay sure why not so guys the whole
thing with 54 Club is that it takes the effort out of shopping so I'm just going
to pull up their site so I can show you guys how the whole thing
works here we go line is to screen share
actually I should probably move that there we go shopping sucks let us take
care of making you look good now edel you enjoy shopping correct I love
shopping lonus you know me so well I thought you do like shopping you like
wearing nice clothes yeah I
guess okay so even even the ones who
like wearing nice clothes apparently I really I thought you enjoyed shopping
for clothes you wanted to go shopping in Vegas when we were there the first year
yeah but there's not there wasn't much else to do like outside outside of the
park fres just like what is in Vegas
besides gambling I hate gambling so the way 54 Club works is
every month they send you a package of clothes so you can look and feel great
you take a quick survey it takes literally less than a minute Luke and I
both actually timed it see I'm actually you know what that's what we're going to
do today we are going to do the survey in fact check this out they even put a
timer in the corner so that you can you can realize as you finish that you uh
took less than a minute to do it so what should we go
for okay I'm going to have you do the survey Ed do business casual here hold
on I actually really like the 54 system just because okay you want business
casual yeah okay all right can I get this I scroll down the page uh what's
your favorite color to wear H it's buil
fall now right so maybe a red or brown
no let's go with blue let's go with blue what does blue have to do with fall okay
what's your second favorite color to wear let's go with a gray let's go with
that let's go with a gray third favorite color let's go with brown okay Brown and
then what is your top size medium medium
what is your bottom size 32 all right 32
what does your bottom fit straight straight fit yep shoe size
H oh jeez nine what shoe you're probably about a nine yeah okay okay and then
which do you like
more striped go striped all right what
is your second favorite shirt type solid solid all right so you're not a plaid
guy is what you're trying to say raw or washed for your jeans uh raw Gotta Love
The Raw okay what kind of denim style do you prefer fashion fashion denim t-shirt
preference fashion fashion okay and
shoes oh they're both
now let good with b b all right so there
you go total time lapsed 101 seconds all right so it took us a little longer than
60 seconds but the main point is on your first time you get $10 cash back so sign
up at bit.ly Linus FFC and try it out we
actually had uh a 54 Club sponsorship spot that we did a while back that um
was a total disaster I got all of the
the pricing wrong got the offer for their July thing totally wrong but you
know what's hilarious is they actually reached out to us and said a whole bunch
of our viewers signed up so in the next couple minutes I'd like to hear from any
of you who signed up for 54 Club go ahead and tweet with # Linus
54 not because I'm 5'4 inches tall I'm
much taller than that what's the offer code um someone asked sorry someone
asked what the offer code was uh offer
code is lonus I believe 54 Linus let me
just double check I really love uh the
54 system just because
like I don't have time to go shopping
like during the weekdays just because I leave here at 6 no
5:30 oh apparently we've used hash Linus 54 before all righty
then um okay 54
for those of you just tuning in uh Luke
is off at packs I'm
edel edel Yago on Twitter I guess me
doing that doesn't really do anything does it I don't think so
yeah follow
me that I'm posting the link guys just make sure you use the link and I believe
offer code is lonus so give that a try
all right and then so yeah if I'm going to see if anyone has actually tweeted
with the hashtag hashtag I want to hear what you
guys think of it Linus
54 I did caps lock so 22 seconds ago all
you did was use the hashtag you didn't actually tell me what you think of it
okay so maybe we'll come back to this later but in the meantime Twitter is
hard our I know Twitter is so difficult our second sponsor this week is hyper X
memor so they are actually our gold sponsor for our P Prime coverage Luke
and Brandon are down there at the show
and hopefully having a ton of fun bringing you guys a ton of great coverage over the next um I guess it'll
be is Friday Saturday Saturday Sunday
Monday um all the packs Prime coverage should be landing so they're going to be
covering some game stuff they're going to be covering some of the hardware
stuff and you guys should definitely definitely get excited about that I
think Luke is going to be trying to get all of his work done in the
first uh I think what was he trying to
do trying to get all of his work done in the first two days and then try to spend
a bunch of time gaming so if you're going to be down in the byoc down at PA
Prime definitely go say hi to Luke and Brandon they're both going to be there
Nick's going to be there as well and Luke actually has my computer down there
so if you've ever wanted to see my personal rig in person and you're going
to be down at packs and you're going to be in the byoc that's basically going to
be the requirements he um didn't have time to fix up his Spotswood test bench
and he asked if uh if he could build up a rig from some of the parts around the
office and I was just like well I got a newborn I'm not gaming this weekend
so yeah I guess you can just take my rig
so I thought that was pretty darn cool all right so just someone did it in
14 seconds someone did what did the 54
thing in 14 seconds yeah I don't think they actually chose things right or they
might just be like I that's kind of fun
maybe for our next uh maybe for our next 54 integration thing we should actually
make that a contest let's see who can do the 54 survey in the least amount of
time um just so you know guys uh the pricing for 54 so per month is 60 bucks
they send you a sticker price of sorry what's up what's the 54 hash
oh oh sorry sorry sorry I'll post that
okay so # Linus 54 guys so hit us on
Twitter with that I want to hear what you think of the service now that you've
been using it so it's 60 bucks a month and then you get a total value of $100
worth of clothing and then the first month they're just going to send you $10
in the box so you get effectively a $10 discount on your first month oh and
something I should mention about um hyperx's sponsorship for PAX Prime is
they really wanted me to tell you guys yo check out their YouTube channel
because they've been doing a lot of really cool stuff on it lately so you
just go to youtube.com/ I think just
hyperx works now as well no it doesn't so youtube.com/ Kingston
hyperx and they've been doing a bunch of really cool stuff so aside from just
like yeah you know here's some really
great memory and headsets and USB drives and stuff you should probably you should
probably try it out they've also got a bunch of really cool content that's like
um bloggy style or skits or interviews
with pro orts athletes so um they're
doing a fantastic job of releasing a ton
of interesting content when you compare that to what other brand names tend to
do on their YouTube channels where it's like yet another place to put an ad um I
think their approach is really stands out from the crowd so I I like how uh
they've been doing a lot of a lot of videos or ads with actual Pro Gamers I
like they're they're not they're not
actors so so they're kind of terad I
wasn't sure if I could say that or not but that's fine it's genuine yeah it is
genuine and it does help the Esports scene so I I do really appreciate that
so I mean actually this is this is funny we uh check this out we we creeped them
on W show last week to have a look at how their YouTube channel is growing and
they had added let's look at their full monthly statistics they had added almost
half of their total subscriber count in the previous two weeks or rather month
and this time it looks like they've pretty much done it again they have
added 20,000 and they have a total of 44,000 subscribers so they're growing
extremely quickly so someone likes something that they're doing
this is this is funny I've got kgh HT 222 in the twitch chat saying that the
uh the $60 a month for 54 Club is an average of $2 a day for clothing I doubt
even Bill Gates spends $800 a year on clothing Bill Gates I don't think he
really on top of of that fashion thing
or I don't think he even cares I think Bill Gates probably spends more than
$800 a year on clothing I think he's he
might be one of those people who buys like really expensive uh polos that are
like bulletproof okay so I don't know I I wish I could meet
Bill Gates Bill Gates meet me please
yeah Bill Gates Bill if you're watching man you know we'd love to uh we'd love
to have you on the show
sometime people are really complaining about $60 a month for clothes like I no
offense to people but clothes are kind of expensive if you care about like keep
up well no you can look not homeless without spending all that much money but
to keep up with anything it's kind of a lot of work all
right so we are we are going to do it we are going to go unfiltered and have a
look at what you guys have to say about 54 this will either be a great endorsement for the service or if you
guys hate it then there'll be that um here we go
is better than anyone they sent me clothes in the box without the face of
Neptune got to love my socks all right
Timothy says they have great clothing Dana says like all things I
don't like the cost of shipping to Canada yes 54 is more expensive to ship
to Canada okay Jacob Ingram says I just
wanted to say you're pretty awesome edel I think you're skipping ahead Sam Palmer
says I wish it was available in Australia would love to use the system
ROM says love it thanks for recommending it and high
Linus Le suggests that lonus do the boiling water challenge thanks Lew I
jackass that's a thing um okay Amir says I really like
the system but sadly I'm only 14 and constantly changing sizes actually I
would see that as an advantage if you budget for it and you let cuz Okay the
way 54 works is they have like a style advis who you work with directly and who
handpicks your clothing every month so they actually have someone that you can
contact and be like yo dog I Chang sizes so just throwing that out there it's
interesting e0 says did it in 20
seconds all right Brien asks try to make
the service available in the UK short sweatpants and graphic T-shirts
they don't have my style I like shorts sweatpants and graphic t-shirts is that
a style I don't know that's sweatpants and graphic t-shirts are a style I think
that might be your issue Sam says the guy who wears socks and
sandwi I don't wear sweatpants have you ever seen me wear
sweatpants I want to say you have but I
think I did once I was really sick all
right oh sometime well sometimes you walk around in pajamas I think not here
recent oh at home yes I've actually done videos in my pajamas uh Jack says love
the surface Brett says come to Australia okay I think we've given 54 enough
screen time at this point they should be pretty they should be pretty happy cuz
we've like blabbed about them forever um
see this is the problem we always start talking about like the sponsor value ad
and then it's like this is a good discussion
topic clothes are overrated all right I'm letting you deal with this one it
was originally posted by Mushi on the Forum and the original article is from
computer andv video games.com but um Nintendo says goodbye
to casual gamers what exactly here I'm
just going to bring up the article before I hand you the laptop that's what it looks like what exactly do they mean
by that well who that didn't
work oh which didn't work the the article
thing up oh no no that's okay the article's gone well
apparently uh because smartphones and
apple in particular is taking
over the uh casual gaming Market they
don't really see a need to
to okay noad to uh keep to keep making
games for the Casual gaming Market which makes sense because you'd be competing
with people who don't really want to play games anyway unless it's convenient
so I like the direction they're going with this I don't like it at all why not
you look at one of their most SU successful products in the last 10 years
the DS the DS was all about the Casual
experience for me I played more bomber man on my DS than anything
else but you've also played games like
uh what is it Bravely Default yes how
did you like that bra default was good until it completely crapped the bed
okay but okay let's ask the chat how many of
you guys are or like casual
games on nintend okay here do you guys think Nintendo still has a contribution
to make to Casual games or should they
focus on the stuff that looks casual in terms of the art style like Mario Kart
and smash BRS but is actually extremely hardcore in terms of the game balancing
and the game playay so there why don't we do straw pull here do you want to
fire up do you know how straw pull works yeah yeah make up make up a straw pull I
want to I want to hear from you guys does Nintendo still have a contribution
to make or do you just want them to focus on what I mean really they're very
good at you know Zelda I would make the argument that in spite of how cartoony
something like okarina of time might have looked is definitely a gamer title
not a casual title
okay um go ahead and post that you just
have to kind of spam it a little bit and do the permissive vote yeah there you go
I'm totally I have I have one more straw poll in mind before the end of the show
that I'm totally going to Blindside you
with it's going to be fun all right spam
spam spam what people say okarina is cartoony uh yeah come on little
fairy where did I put that H disappeared
yeah the twitch chat just moves really fast I mean my straw tab
there we go boom JJJ says lonus do you
see this no all right let's go ahead and screen
share here so you mentioned Mario and Super Smash Brothers yeah I love Super
Mario Kart I play it with the ncx guys like every week and then like we go to
Chris's and then play it some more uh
that's definitely not a casual game just cuz I know it's freaking
hard and it's great love it I I probably
spend more play more time playing Super Mario Kart than Mario Mario Kart yeah
sorry that's what I started with the Super Mario Kart on
SNES I on consoles I've played that more
than any other game on a console really yes that much yeah so would you say that
okay so because the the wi's whole value ad was supposed to be we fit and wi
Sports terrible flinging the wi mode around okay so that that was the we so
so if Nintendo's direction is okay Wii U
we're going to go back to 1080p 60 FPS
and hardcore titles could you be sold a
Wii U if they made more hardcore titles yeah
if they did more Mario Kart class titles
on the Wii U would you consider buying one if no one else in my like group of
friends had a wiu then yes like honestly
for Mario Kart I would just buy a Wii U just for Mario Kart it's a really good
party game okay so that's so that's it that's
the issue then because okay from so from a business is kind of an issue because
from a business standpoint if the objective is to sell more copies of the
game and more consoles are they going to be doing themselves any favors by
eliminating casual games in favor of I
mean arguably the two examples that we came up with of great Nintendo hardcore
titles party
games
well so are you're asking whether or not
it's better for Nintendo to make party
games and sell fewer consoles than
casual games and sell more like yeah but
do you have any stats for that no no I don't no I don't I'm just saying that it
feels like a problem that the titles that you and I are discussing that could
sell the console to us are titles that
really only one person within a group of friends really needs to own unless
you're going to be unless you're going to be one of those people like Luke who sits and practices Mario Kart so that
when everyone comes and plays with him he just wrecks everybody those people
are bad people by the way people who practice party games no I think bad
people Anthony and Chris probably Jack
Me Maybe too probably better than uh Luke at uh Mario Kart really yeah even
though you didn't know the name of the game Mario Cart doesn't matter if
there's super on there or an eight on the end same thing same thing okay and
actually uh Chris's girlfriend amazing at Super Nintendo's uh Mario Kart really
yeah ridiculous all right all right well you
know what we will have to do we will have to do some game streaming sometime
uh sometime maybe we'll go over to Luke's house or something or um yeah we
could yeah we'll play some to bring all no we'll play some Mario Kart I have a
land PC no no Mario Kart oh marioart
you'll have to show us your you'll have to show us your skills we we'll have to see how that goes you know what's funny
though is we could actually do PC game
streaming from the office now everybody's work machine is now
legit a legit gaming rig I need to SLI
that oh yeah we never put an SLI bridge in your machine well in theory you
wouldn't need it whatever I
need have you played Battlefield have I played Battlefield 4
yeah not really I played a little bit of the single player and got Bor can I borrow those the Titans you want to
borrow the Titans how are you going to get them out of the machine scissors yeah that's what I
thought no absolutely not so ised the
first time uh last week with uh S Dual
770s Battlefield is running all right
but I am using a 2-year-old 8150 that
lonus gave me for free when I started interning for him at NCI ex Tech tip
that was like two years ago yeah it was wow yeah and apparently the 8150 is
bottled necking my two Sly cards yeah
that 8150 was uh that was like that was
like the uh the the the [ __ ] chip even
then and you gave it to me for for my hard work yeah thanks lonus hey you got
RAM and a motherboard and I'm pretty
sure a GPU at some point so yeah it
wasn't all it wasn't all terrible all right so Razer cortex their
Deal's video game tracker is now in this
is in Early Access right now correct yep all right so basically bye David bye
David so basically one of the best things about being a PC Gamer you know
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months after release and it was still $59.99 anyway there's no such thing as
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that is something that you guys are definitely going to want to check out have you have you signed up no I haven't
really are you going to I have so many things running already
ready and I like I like steam uh that's
what I thought about it I thought you know looking at all these features it
looks like Steam and GeForce experience it has like
a the game optimizing tool yeah and it like defrags your system which I already
do it like prioritize prioritizes uh
things so would you even fire it up to
see if there was a deal before you bought a game on Steam or would you just blindly buy it on Steam because you find
the steam experience so much better well like depends on how it works is it going
to send me to any number of dozen sites
like I don't want to make a new account for for a site every time a deal comes
up and it's like on a different site like one reason I buy games off steam is
that it's on Steam yeah you know there's my steam wallet it's just right there or
EA origin store Ubisoft store I don't buy anything on
there uh you know it's like it's right
there it's convenient whereas Razer doesn't have their store like what how
are they going to do this I'm really interested to try it out I'm going to
install it I'm going to try it out and then I'll I'll see how it goes from there maybe it'll be a disaster but I
mean Razer has shown that they're pretty serious about building software that
makes gaming better I mean comms is a
great example of that they saw a gap and they're like okay we're going to build
something that legitimately addresses the need that people have so I'm
interested to check this out funny that you should mention comms Dolby axen uh
wasn't working like several times last week uh the crew and I use Dolby axen
yep so we actually used the Razer comms it's I think it has more features than I
remember and it's kind of nice now yeah
got to say yep they've improved a lot it's not bad um okay we've got a couple
more more topics Before We Say Goodbye because it's quarter after 6 already
here uh Microsoft claims they are starting to crack down on fake apps in
the Windows store this was originally posted by Sherman taker on the Forum and
the article's from The Verge and basically Microsoft says they reached
out to devs and told them that they have
to make their Dev their their apps compliant with their new guidelines
which or that it can't have an icon that's too close to something that is
not representative of what it is um I think there were a couple of other
things but basically there have been
devs that are just like swift key for
example if you go to the swift key you know what not the swift key devs I'm
going to yeah not the swift key devs but if you search for swift key in the
Windows store I'm going to try it now I've screenshotted it from before but
let's let's do a live test of whether a scam app that I
found um swift key keyboard has eight
ratings for one star that is a $4 app
the award-winning app for Android that replaces your onscreen keyboard giving
you the fastest and easiest way to type now in Windows phone uh let's have a look at the
reviews eight ratings where are the reviews here we go scam artist do not
purchase this this is fake very unhappy fake app for $4 this is fake this app
does nothing so apparently they've removed
1500 apps based on how many scam apps I
found over the last little bit um yeah
that's probably not enough uh developers who refuse to comply with Microsoft's
new guidelines are getting them removed but I think they've still got a lot more
work to do but they're taking steps forward so that's good they're
acknowledging the problem that's all I'm giving them credit for at this point
well they they're also dealing with it sort of I mean the one that the one I
tested is still there so we'll see um
originally posted by deliv on the Forum the original article here that he's
referring to is from Hardware 360 and allegedly Microsoft will offer the
Windows 9 upgrade either free or for
$20 so Microsoft will also have an
awesome offer for Windows XP users to be clear that price is for Windows 8.1
users another tidbit is that the Enterprise Windows 9 is rumored to be
completely metr free so Metro is the
modern UI you know this one yay I can
scroll back and forth except I don't want to do that okay um so cheap Windows
upgrade offers aren't unprecedented they have done this kind of thing before the
Windows store not the Windows phone store maybe uh I believe they are
actually integrating them uh moving
forward so I'm not sure I think there's some stuff that's in both or whatever
the case may be either way they have to address both of them they need to acknowledge the problem everywhere uh
you guys should put sponsors below the stream actually that's not a bad idea we
probably should do that at some point all right well I think that pretty much
wraps it up for the show today although I have one more straw poll for you guys
before we go I'm just going to create it
I'm going to put poor edel on the spot what did you think of
edel's guest co-host
spot all right let's come up with some options here I think it got better towards the end 10 out of 10 amazing
would uh would love to have him again okay
let's go with five out of 10 uh got better towards the
end and one out of 10 very why you doing it out of 10 if
there's if there are only three options and zero out of 10
L okay well so basically basically I'm
setting you up for I'm setting you up for failure here and I'm also saving you
from potentially their devastating negative feedback because you know
they're going to go with zero out of 10 just for the lws I've gotten used to
negative feedback yeah we all
have do you really just Spam it like that yeah that way everyone sees it
edzel is too autistic Ed is too autistic wow wow speaking of getting used to all
the negative feedback autism actually isn't a thing anymore apparently it's
been just brought back into the uh oh no
I'm thinking Asbergers you're thinking asers yeah as autism is definitely a
thing yeah that's definitely a thing I think Asbergers has been brought back
under the autism umbrella yeah lus
screen share 10 out of 10 amazing would love to have him again has half of the
votes with 21% of the votes being five out of 10 got better towards the end oh
there's a fair bit of zero out of 10
LW and 9% say one out of 10 very
unfortunate that Luke isn't here so it actually looks like the reaction to uh
to your co-hosting job today has been pretty darn positive so good job uh
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week I need a laptop yeah you really
need a laptop that that hurt you big time being able to see the topics and
like you could say like yeah I just forget how good
that looks I know I love this thing I did a good job with that oh should we uh
should we show them the uh the vinyl stickers oh yeah okay okay very short
very short after party here we're going to we're going to go get are you going
to grab them yeah okay I'll grab these ones if you want to grab at least one
from the other
room so we got these awesome
ah don't break please we got these awesome vinyl stickers for the walls
here uh this has a paper covering over the top of it so that's why it looks so
faded but it's like um I don't even
remember what color it is is this a is this white an orange are you sure I
think so no it's like a gray it's like an off-white oh it is white no it's
white it's white so it's a white and orange Linus Tech tips that we have for
one of the walls and then uh also did up
yeah baby when stealth
logo so we're going to put that on one of the walls in the office and finally
yeah bro fist can they see it yep
sweet there you go
um I actually have uh we've put up one
actually here do you want to take roist and W stealth away before they get
damaged it's not faded it just has like a sheet of paper yeah there's a paper
covering over it to keep the multiple pieces in place here I'm uh I got them
together there we go um actually I have uh an example of what they're going to
look like on the wall so check this out you guys it's freaking
awesome I think so anyway so this is a
sneak preview of what the whole room water cooling setup looks like so
far if my uh if my stupid
Dropbox would automatically upload okay
or we could just go to edel's Twitter uh or we could go to edel's
Twitter do you have a shot of the deal and the uh and the piping and the
systems in from just now I have like a bunch of features uh okay you try to do
that while I try to do this and whoever does it first is a
winner
okay um so I'm like mailing to myself
because Apple's I took the picture on my iPhone Apple's thing is like ah boom
super Broken Oh this is your Panorama oh okay
yeah that should be good okay oh you
broke it actually I might like my shot
better no I'm opening my picture okay I'll show this one first okay so there
we go uh do you want to just get rid of
us okay so that's a panorama shot of the office
um basically you can see this is edel's workstation Brandon's workstation here's
the copper piping coming down for each of the systems this one's going to be
for um the potential new employee who I'm going to hear back from this weekend
this is for taran's workstation this is an extra this is for my workstation and
here are the vinyl decal on the wall and then here I'm just going to switch back
to this so that I can go into my email
without oh I just heard from Chris from NC NC challenges lonus Tech tips to
Mario Kart they watching I guess we should have known that was
coming can I be on their team
no what do you think this is you're going to abandon us in our hour of need
they're better
wow wow it's not it this is about family
this is not well okay if we want to talk about family I do game with them pretty
much every night uhhuh with uh voice chant all
versus just working over
here yeah so someone says I should fire
edel actually no one said that that was just what I was
thinking oh I can't even believe you anyway so this is uh this is a not
panorama shot which I personally find a little bit easier to digest cuz I'm old
of uh this is teran's water cooled
system right here oh you took that like recently this is the extra uh here's my
machine over in the corner running off of this one and then we've got bro fist
and when stealth sort of centered look
at much extra space whatever uh sort of centered on the wall in there so yeah
love it those pipes look sketchy what
looks sketchy about them oh maybe that's stuff oh that's just a that's a label
yeah it's no big deal these are copper pipes that were soldered by Luke's dads
so need to be painted needs to be
painted I don't want to paint them I like the copper Co yeah we have um like
can we polish it somehow yes okay uh Luke's dad gave us this um this stuff
that we can use to polish it quite quickly and then we're planning to paint
uh a varnish layer over the top so that they really shine I'm uh I'm super
stoked going to look awesome all right guys thanks for watching peace out see
you next week