WEBVTT 00:00:00.719 --> 00:00:09.559 this will be a quick overview of the testing setup that I'll be using for my 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:13.920 GTX 580 review so as you can see here I 00:00:09.559 --> 00:00:17.680 do have two GeForce GTX 580s I have one 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:20.359 from MSI and then I also have one from 00:00:17.680 --> 00:00:27.679 EVGA so that means that I will be including SLI testing for the GTX 580 as 00:00:24.279 --> 00:00:30.800 well as crossfire testing for the radon 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:33.200 5870 which as of right now is the 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:37.600 closest competitor for the GTX 580 although I don't expect that to be the 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:41.520 case for uh for very much longer in the future now one of the other comparisons 00:00:39.680 --> 00:00:48.399 I also want to make just to include it in my charts is the GTX 480 which the 00:00:45.120 --> 00:00:51.399 580 is replacing and just because it 00:00:48.399 --> 00:00:56.039 represents such a good value I also have 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:58.960 two MSI GeForce GTX 460 Hawk edition 00:00:56.039 --> 00:01:03.359 cards because two 460s when they came out on the market with the exceptional 00:01:01.199 --> 00:01:07.040 scaling that you get in crossfire as well as with the outstanding 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:13.920 overclocking of the hawk Edition card became a great value for a performance 00:01:09.960 --> 00:01:16.759 Enthusiast because two 460s was actually 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:22.400 cheaper than a 480 but provided better performance so I really want to see 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:25.040 where the GTX 580 Falls in relation to 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:28.000 two overclocked 460s which are out there on the market for a very good price 00:01:26.720 --> 00:01:33.640 these days now I want to introduce you to the test bench really quick I have my 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:36.720 3.8 GHz core i7 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:40.479 875k I have that running with 4 gigs of 00:01:36.720 --> 00:01:43.040 Kingston hyperx RAM I've got an ASUS 00:01:40.479 --> 00:01:48.240 Crossfire and SLI ready motherboard down there somewhere so I've got a new CPU 00:01:45.119 --> 00:01:50.000 Cooler now actually it keeps my uh chip 00:01:48.240 --> 00:01:56.320 quite a bit cooler than the A50 I was using before this is a silent X aphysio 00:01:52.520 --> 00:01:59.000 extreme now down here I have a cougar SX 00:01:56.320 --> 00:02:03.719 series 850 W power supply which is more than capable of power in all the cards 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:06.960 down here below mind you not all at the same time that would be quite 00:02:04.880 --> 00:02:13.200 unreasonable and then for my boot drive I'm using an Intel x25 M 80 gig drive 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:18.400 now I have changed my monitor setup slightly as you may or may not be able 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:24.239 to tell that is a 30in monitor so I'm going to be doing all of my benchmarks 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:25.760 other than 3D Mark at 2560 x600 3D Mark 00:02:24.239 --> 00:02:31.800 is going to be run in the extreme profile because the reality of it is the 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:34.239 gpus I'm testing here today are all 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:37.319 premium high-end products so we're going to use them as they're intended to be 00:02:35.720 --> 00:02:44.319 used and that is at extremely high resolution and find out how they all 00:02:39.560 --> 00:02:44.319 compare to each other stay tuned for 00:02:48.480 --> 00:02:59.040 more now for Starcraft 2 it's pretty obvious that with every setup from the 00:02:54.879 --> 00:03:01.840 GTX 480 up through the 460s and SLI and 00:02:59.040 --> 00:03:05.680 the 580 580s in SLI we got almost exactly the same frame rate so what that 00:03:03.640 --> 00:03:09.840 comes down to is a CPU bottleneck it means that this game cannot take 00:03:07.959 --> 00:03:13.640 advantage of the extra GPU power that we're throwing at it now I was not 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:17.519 running Starcraft 2 with anti-aliasing and if we turned on anti-aliasing we'd 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:22.040 probably see some improvement however with that unit count bear in mind we 00:03:19.959 --> 00:03:26.000 were using a very action intensive part of the game to do our benchmarking we 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:32.560 were not able to find any difference between well one very high-end solution 00:03:28.720 --> 00:03:32.560 and another even more Uber high-end 00:03:35.040 --> 00:03:41.480 solution Mafia 2 is being tested with physx so we have not included any 00:03:39.799 --> 00:03:45.319 results for Radeon cards they didn't fail the test they just can't run it 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:45.319 with 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:53.519 fizx for Metro 2033 with fizx you 00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:58.599 probably noticed the GTX 460 SLI config is not in there and that's because it 00:03:55.480 --> 00:04:02.200 failed the reason is that the GTX 460 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:03.920 only has 1 gig of video memory and what 00:04:02.200 --> 00:04:08.560 that means is because the two cards in SLI can't share that video memory you 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:13.439 have effectively one gig of video memory and at that resolution with those 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:16.720 settings with that particular game you 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:20.239 need more RAM so that's what the GTX 480 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:22.320 and the GTX 580 had as an advantage over 00:04:20.239 --> 00:04:28.479 those lower-end cards so that's why I wasn't able to include any 460 SLI 00:04:25.479 --> 00:04:28.479 results 00:04:29.880 --> 00:04:36.840 I did another run through of Metro 2033 with no physx so that I could include 00:04:33.960 --> 00:04:42.720 the radon cards and as you can see the GTX 460 SLI config still didn't make it 00:04:40.440 --> 00:04:46.479 I got a benchmark result and it kind of fell in line with everything else but I 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:50.680 can't present that to you guys because when I was playing through the game it 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:54.240 did not feel right like I had times where it dipped down and it felt like 2 00:04:52.280 --> 00:04:59.320 FPS even though at the end The Benchmark reported something like very very 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:02.360 playable so uh that's why I could not include that result 00:05:04.039 --> 00:05:11.199 there Battlefield Bad Company 2 is actually one of the games that uh scaled 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:16.080 extremely well with all of the different cards that we ran and we were able to 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:21.759 generate very consistent results I did a little playthrough of the uh in between 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:25.759 going through the town here and then where at the end you find a tank uh 00:05:24.280 --> 00:05:30.440 that's the part of this game that was used for the uh benchmarking 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:34.680 purposes and uh try and take out the out at the rocket launcher now you can't get 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:37.840 a consistent run through every time so I did have to do multiple run throughs 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:41.759 with each GPU and average them amount but I think overall we get a result 00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:48.039 that's fairly representative of what each graphics card is capable of in this 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:48.039 particular shooter 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:58.680 game going to be completely honest with you guys I didn't have a whole lot of 00:05:54.000 --> 00:06:01.720 time to spend with the GTX 580s my radon 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:03.319 5870 Crossfire setup was doing some 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:08.319 weird stuff in crisis where I was getting worse performance than a single 00:06:05.039 --> 00:06:09.840 card at 2560 x600 I didn't even have the 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:12.919 time to really look up and find out if that's a common issue cuz there aren't 00:06:11.400 --> 00:06:20.360 too many people who are trying to run crisis with anti-aliasing at 2560 x600 00:06:16.479 --> 00:06:22.120 with radon 5870 Crossfire so it's uh 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:25.199 probably not all that well documented but basically sorry I couldn't include 00:06:23.960 --> 00:06:28.840 those results you can check out everything else though 00:06:33.080 --> 00:06:39.520 for power consumption bear in mind all of my measurements are taken from the 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:44.360 wall and they are an absolute Peak value so you can expect that usually while 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:47.800 gaming it'll be quite a bit lower but this is the maximum power consumption 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:52.919 that I was able to pull from the wall with this system during the entire 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:56.120 benchmarking process for each GPU so that means that if I was doing something 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:59.960 CPU intensive at the same time as gaming it could probably be higher so make sure 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:03.000 that when you're budgeting a PS you for your build if you're going to use one of 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:09.520 these new cards like say for example the GTX 580 that you plan 00:07:07.080 --> 00:07:14.199 accordingly so here's the settings that uh we ran Metro 2033 on although 00:07:11.919 --> 00:07:19.199 actually as you saw from my introduction when I was at home and I was not at work 00:07:16.520 --> 00:07:24.599 I had a 30-in monitor at my disposal so the benchmarks were done remember at two 00:07:21.479 --> 00:07:27.720 different resolutions for Metro 23 2560 00:07:24.599 --> 00:07:29.039 x600 as well as 1920 x 1200 although 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:33.479 these are the other settings that are being used everything is enabled so 00:07:31.479 --> 00:07:38.639 we're going to do some quick gaml here while I just talk a little bit about the 00:07:35.560 --> 00:07:41.120 GTX 580 and what this particular game 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:46.720 means to the market so this is the run through that I did in order to test 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:49.360 Metro 2033 it's on the level the bridge 00:07:46.720 --> 00:07:53.919 and I follow this guy around kill some dudes basically I've got the GTX 580 00:07:52.159 --> 00:07:59.919 setup running right now and I'm just wanting to show 00:07:55.400 --> 00:08:02.479 you how beefy this setup is it really 00:07:59.919 --> 00:08:09.120 does blow away everything else especially in the 2560 x600 resolution 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:14.840 because so many of the other setups that I tried to run this game at those 00:08:11.599 --> 00:08:17.080 settings with just outright failed they 00:08:14.840 --> 00:08:22.400 just couldn't do it and here you can see it's butter smooth even at 1920 x 1200 00:08:20.039 --> 00:08:26.319 everything maxed out I'm seeing you know 50 frames per second hold on I better 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:30.120 put on my gas mask in just a second you guys will have some combat to check out 00:08:28.080 --> 00:08:34.000 and so uh that's one of the things I really 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:37.800 noticed about the Lesser setups is that especially when the action gets a little 00:08:35.680 --> 00:08:42.560 bit more intense the frame rate dips and it can even sort of skip a couple and 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:47.920 that's where it becomes unplayable very very quickly so I got a monster rushing 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:49.279 at me can kill the guy stays very smooth 00:08:47.920 --> 00:08:58.079 no matter what I'm doing shotgun 40 FPS still anyway so all of 00:08:55.600 --> 00:09:02.200 that aside GTX 580 what does it mean well it's really really expensive so not 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:08.440 everyone can afford one it's going to be up over $500 Canadian at launch however 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:13.440 unlike its predecessor the 480 NVIDIA has really gotten a few 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:18.519 things under control they've completely fixed the problem with the excess heat 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:22.440 output for the power compared to the competition that's on the market today 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:27.240 they fixed the problem with the noise both by using their Innovative Vapor 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:30.880 chamber cooler as well as their adaptive fan profile so make sure you do check 00:09:28.920 --> 00:09:35.160 out my videos that are dedicated to those two aspects of this card I show 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:39.600 how the fan ramps up and down very slowly so it sounds very smooth and I 00:09:36.959 --> 00:09:44.519 also disassemble the MSI card so you can see the vapor chamber cooler up close 00:09:41.800 --> 00:09:49.760 and personal and they've added more power and it comes in at the same price 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:52.279 as a GTX 580 so it's really hard to uh 00:09:49.760 --> 00:09:57.560 to find anything wrong with it I guess it's a super premium product like I said 00:09:54.399 --> 00:10:00.120 so it's quite expensive but it's pretty 00:09:57.560 --> 00:10:06.399 much a gamech Cher and it is without a doubt whether it's a loan or an SLI the 00:10:04.079 --> 00:10:11.160 fastest graphics card solution that 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