1 00:00:00,719 --> 00:00:09,559 this will be a quick overview of the testing setup that I'll be using for my 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:13,920 GTX 580 review so as you can see here I 3 00:00:09,559 --> 00:00:17,680 do have two GeForce GTX 580s I have one 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:20,359 from MSI and then I also have one from 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:27,679 EVGA so that means that I will be including SLI testing for the GTX 580 as 6 00:00:24,279 --> 00:00:30,800 well as crossfire testing for the radon 7 00:00:27,679 --> 00:00:33,200 5870 which as of right now is the 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:37,600 closest competitor for the GTX 580 although I don't expect that to be the 9 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:41,520 case for uh for very much longer in the future now one of the other comparisons 10 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:48,399 I also want to make just to include it in my charts is the GTX 480 which the 11 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:51,399 580 is replacing and just because it 12 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:56,039 represents such a good value I also have 13 00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:58,960 two MSI GeForce GTX 460 Hawk edition 14 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:03,359 cards because two 460s when they came out on the market with the exceptional 15 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:07,040 scaling that you get in crossfire as well as with the outstanding 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:13,920 overclocking of the hawk Edition card became a great value for a performance 17 00:01:09,960 --> 00:01:16,759 Enthusiast because two 460s was actually 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:22,400 cheaper than a 480 but provided better performance so I really want to see 19 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:25,040 where the GTX 580 Falls in relation to 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,000 two overclocked 460s which are out there on the market for a very good price 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:33,640 these days now I want to introduce you to the test bench really quick I have my 22 00:01:30,079 --> 00:01:36,720 3.8 GHz core i7 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:40,479 875k I have that running with 4 gigs of 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:43,040 Kingston hyperx RAM I've got an ASUS 25 00:01:40,479 --> 00:01:48,240 Crossfire and SLI ready motherboard down there somewhere so I've got a new CPU 26 00:01:45,119 --> 00:01:50,000 Cooler now actually it keeps my uh chip 27 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:56,320 quite a bit cooler than the A50 I was using before this is a silent X aphysio 28 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:59,000 extreme now down here I have a cougar SX 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:03,719 series 850 W power supply which is more than capable of power in all the cards 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,960 down here below mind you not all at the same time that would be quite 31 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:13,200 unreasonable and then for my boot drive I'm using an Intel x25 M 80 gig drive 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:18,400 now I have changed my monitor setup slightly as you may or may not be able 33 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:24,239 to tell that is a 30in monitor so I'm going to be doing all of my benchmarks 34 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:25,760 other than 3D Mark at 2560 x600 3D Mark 35 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:31,800 is going to be run in the extreme profile because the reality of it is the 36 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:34,239 gpus I'm testing here today are all 37 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,319 premium high-end products so we're going to use them as they're intended to be 38 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:44,319 used and that is at extremely high resolution and find out how they all 39 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,319 compare to each other stay tuned for 40 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:59,040 more now for Starcraft 2 it's pretty obvious that with every setup from the 41 00:02:54,879 --> 00:03:01,840 GTX 480 up through the 460s and SLI and 42 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:05,680 the 580 580s in SLI we got almost exactly the same frame rate so what that 43 00:03:03,640 --> 00:03:09,840 comes down to is a CPU bottleneck it means that this game cannot take 44 00:03:07,959 --> 00:03:13,640 advantage of the extra GPU power that we're throwing at it now I was not 45 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,519 running Starcraft 2 with anti-aliasing and if we turned on anti-aliasing we'd 46 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:22,040 probably see some improvement however with that unit count bear in mind we 47 00:03:19,959 --> 00:03:26,000 were using a very action intensive part of the game to do our benchmarking we 48 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:32,560 were not able to find any difference between well one very high-end solution 49 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,560 and another even more Uber high-end 50 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:41,480 solution Mafia 2 is being tested with physx so we have not included any 51 00:03:39,799 --> 00:03:45,319 results for Radeon cards they didn't fail the test they just can't run it 52 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:45,319 with 53 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:53,519 fizx for Metro 2033 with fizx you 54 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:58,599 probably noticed the GTX 460 SLI config is not in there and that's because it 55 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:02,200 failed the reason is that the GTX 460 56 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:03,920 only has 1 gig of video memory and what 57 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:08,560 that means is because the two cards in SLI can't share that video memory you 58 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:13,439 have effectively one gig of video memory and at that resolution with those 59 00:04:10,439 --> 00:04:16,720 settings with that particular game you 60 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:20,239 need more RAM so that's what the GTX 480 61 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:22,320 and the GTX 580 had as an advantage over 62 00:04:20,239 --> 00:04:28,479 those lower-end cards so that's why I wasn't able to include any 460 SLI 63 00:04:25,479 --> 00:04:28,479 results 64 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,840 I did another run through of Metro 2033 with no physx so that I could include 65 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:42,720 the radon cards and as you can see the GTX 460 SLI config still didn't make it 66 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,479 I got a benchmark result and it kind of fell in line with everything else but I 67 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:50,680 can't present that to you guys because when I was playing through the game it 68 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,240 did not feel right like I had times where it dipped down and it felt like 2 69 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:59,320 FPS even though at the end The Benchmark reported something like very very 70 00:04:56,639 --> 00:05:02,360 playable so uh that's why I could not include that result 71 00:05:04,039 --> 00:05:11,199 there Battlefield Bad Company 2 is actually one of the games that uh scaled 72 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:16,080 extremely well with all of the different cards that we ran and we were able to 73 00:05:13,639 --> 00:05:21,759 generate very consistent results I did a little playthrough of the uh in between 74 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:25,759 going through the town here and then where at the end you find a tank uh 75 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:30,440 that's the part of this game that was used for the uh benchmarking 76 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,680 purposes and uh try and take out the out at the rocket launcher now you can't get 77 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,840 a consistent run through every time so I did have to do multiple run throughs 78 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:41,759 with each GPU and average them amount but I think overall we get a result 79 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:48,039 that's fairly representative of what each graphics card is capable of in this 80 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,039 particular shooter 81 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:58,680 game going to be completely honest with you guys I didn't have a whole lot of 82 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:01,720 time to spend with the GTX 580s my radon 83 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,319 5870 Crossfire setup was doing some 84 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:08,319 weird stuff in crisis where I was getting worse performance than a single 85 00:06:05,039 --> 00:06:09,840 card at 2560 x600 I didn't even have the 86 00:06:08,319 --> 00:06:12,919 time to really look up and find out if that's a common issue cuz there aren't 87 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:20,360 too many people who are trying to run crisis with anti-aliasing at 2560 x600 88 00:06:16,479 --> 00:06:22,120 with radon 5870 Crossfire so it's uh 89 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:25,199 probably not all that well documented but basically sorry I couldn't include 90 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,840 those results you can check out everything else though 91 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:39,520 for power consumption bear in mind all of my measurements are taken from the 92 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:44,360 wall and they are an absolute Peak value so you can expect that usually while 93 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:47,800 gaming it'll be quite a bit lower but this is the maximum power consumption 94 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:52,919 that I was able to pull from the wall with this system during the entire 95 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:56,120 benchmarking process for each GPU so that means that if I was doing something 96 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:59,960 CPU intensive at the same time as gaming it could probably be higher so make sure 97 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,000 that when you're budgeting a PS you for your build if you're going to use one of 98 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:09,520 these new cards like say for example the GTX 580 that you plan 99 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:14,199 accordingly so here's the settings that uh we ran Metro 2033 on although 100 00:07:11,919 --> 00:07:19,199 actually as you saw from my introduction when I was at home and I was not at work 101 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:24,599 I had a 30-in monitor at my disposal so the benchmarks were done remember at two 102 00:07:21,479 --> 00:07:27,720 different resolutions for Metro 23 2560 103 00:07:24,599 --> 00:07:29,039 x600 as well as 1920 x 1200 although 104 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,479 these are the other settings that are being used everything is enabled so 105 00:07:31,479 --> 00:07:38,639 we're going to do some quick gaml here while I just talk a little bit about the 106 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:41,120 GTX 580 and what this particular game 107 00:07:38,639 --> 00:07:46,720 means to the market so this is the run through that I did in order to test 108 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:49,360 Metro 2033 it's on the level the bridge 109 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:53,919 and I follow this guy around kill some dudes basically I've got the GTX 580 110 00:07:52,159 --> 00:07:59,919 setup running right now and I'm just wanting to show 111 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:02,479 you how beefy this setup is it really 112 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:09,120 does blow away everything else especially in the 2560 x600 resolution 113 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:14,840 because so many of the other setups that I tried to run this game at those 114 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:17,080 settings with just outright failed they 115 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:22,400 just couldn't do it and here you can see it's butter smooth even at 1920 x 1200 116 00:08:20,039 --> 00:08:26,319 everything maxed out I'm seeing you know 50 frames per second hold on I better 117 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,120 put on my gas mask in just a second you guys will have some combat to check out 118 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:34,000 and so uh that's one of the things I really 119 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:37,800 noticed about the Lesser setups is that especially when the action gets a little 120 00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:42,560 bit more intense the frame rate dips and it can even sort of skip a couple and 121 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:47,920 that's where it becomes unplayable very very quickly so I got a monster rushing 122 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,279 at me can kill the guy stays very smooth 123 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:58,079 no matter what I'm doing shotgun 40 FPS still anyway so all of 124 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:02,200 that aside GTX 580 what does it mean well it's really really expensive so not 125 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:08,440 everyone can afford one it's going to be up over $500 Canadian at launch however 126 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:13,440 unlike its predecessor the 480 NVIDIA has really gotten a few 127 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:18,519 things under control they've completely fixed the problem with the excess heat 128 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:22,440 output for the power compared to the competition that's on the market today 129 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:27,240 they fixed the problem with the noise both by using their Innovative Vapor 130 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:30,880 chamber cooler as well as their adaptive fan profile so make sure you do check 131 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:35,160 out my videos that are dedicated to those two aspects of this card I show 132 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,600 how the fan ramps up and down very slowly so it sounds very smooth and I 133 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:44,519 also disassemble the MSI card so you can see the vapor chamber cooler up close 134 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:49,760 and personal and they've added more power and it comes in at the same price 135 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:52,279 as a GTX 580 so it's really hard to uh 136 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:57,560 to find anything wrong with it I guess it's a super premium product like I said 137 00:09:54,399 --> 00:10:00,120 so it's quite expensive but it's pretty 138 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:06,399 much a gamech Cher and it is without a doubt whether it's a loan or an SLI the 139 00:10:04,079 --> 00:10:11,160 fastest graphics card solution that you can buy today so thank you for checking 140 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:14,440 out my performance review of the GTX 580 don't forget to check out a lot of the 141 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:17,920 other videos that I've done around this important launch for NVIDIA and thanks 142 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,240 for checking out lineus Tech tips don't forget to subscribe