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whether you're a casual part-time wedding photographer or you're working

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on the next big budget hollywood movie every media production professional has

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run into this problem at some point they don't have enough space for all their

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photos graphics assets or video clips

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what's the solution well a lot of the time people will run out and buy things

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like these and whether they've got a hard drive inside them or an SSD

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external drives like these ones always run into some of the same

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limitations they connect your system using buses like usb or Thunderbolt that

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are not easily shared with other users so today as a spiritual follow-up to our

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recent budget 4k video editing workstation i'm going to be showing you

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use offer code Linus to get 25 off at the link below

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i'm going to put aside the internals for now because really where the story

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starts is the case so this ticked all

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the boxes quiet reasonably professional looking and it

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can accommodate with the optional hard drive sleds up to 18

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hard drives fractal sent along the case for this video along with

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all the expansions but um i haven't looked at the reviewer's guide

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so i don't really know how any of this works

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there well there seems to be a slight problem my original email said the

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define 7xl holds up to 18 three and a half inch hard drives the reviewer's

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guide says 14 max

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and it's bolded i don't know how this works

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oh here we go

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so now what i want to do is reconfigure my fans before i start stacking hard

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drives in this thing now we're about ready to install drives but i found yet

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more conflicting information in the user's guide three and a half two and a

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half universal drive positions 18. which one is it fractal so for this project

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we're going to be using the ideal drives

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these are seagate's iron wolf pro nas drives

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so these are the 16 terabyte variant but they are available in a variety of

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capacities they come with a five year warranty including seagate's rescue data

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recovery service that's freaking awesome

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and as they're pro iron wolf drives

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they're rated for up to 24 drives in an enclosure because with drives that are

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not designed for nas use and for operation in close proximity to each

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other the vibrations of the next drive over can actually affect the operation

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of another drive so these are good for up to 24 and since we're going to be

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putting 18 or 14. in this chassis these were a

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perfect fit we got to put the anti-vibration rubber grommet then we

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lined that puppy up on the bottom of our drive now with an SSD

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you guys have probably seen me use as few as

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two screws or one or none and some double-sided tape

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but i would never recommend that with a hard drive when it comes to hard drives

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you mount them with as many screws as you can because even if your drives are

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designed to withstand the vibrations of nearby drives they are not designed to

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withstand the vibrations of nearby drives that are not mounted correctly

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so all four of our screws go in

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that's 16. okay none of the documentation said

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anything about 16. what the crap

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well that happened we're up to 19 drives which sort of leads me to wonder how

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much farther we can go like

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yeah you know what you can call it good at 20 right

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i mean 320 terabytes of raw capacity in a 200

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case let's start talking about some of our other components

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yes this is a strix gaming

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motherboard or whatever but what it also is is a good value board with lots of

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memory expansion which could be important if we want to run vms or other

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server functions on our nas it's got support for third gen ryzen processors

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with a BIOS update of course it's got lots of pci express expansion it's got

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two m.2 slots and we'll get to why we need those later and finally it manages

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to boot in headless mode without a graphics card installed and without an

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apu installed where you would be able to use the onboard graphics so that saves

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us some money because even though we're going to need a graphics card in order to configure our system we don't

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actually necessarily want to leave one in there unless we have some purpose for

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it like we want to use GPU hardware acceleration for media encoding for a

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plex server or something like that so we're going with a second gen ryzen 2600

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non-x because it's using the original zen architecture instead of zen 2 those

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individual cores are not as fast

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now we could go with something heavier if we intend to use this thing you know

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again as a you know a media server that's going to have to do you know

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heavy video encoding or whatever the case may be but our intent for the build today is to

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just have it be a file server and this is going to be plenty plenty of

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horsepower for that now i did consider going Intel for this build but even

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though we're using regular unbuffered memory one of the things that pushed me

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to AMD was their unofficial support for ecc or error checking memory on their

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consumer processors now it does require support from the motherboard and

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conveniently this one happens to support it as well as costing a little bit more

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but if you were gonna run something like zfs for your software raid it is a

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recommended feature to have and you should spend a little bit of extra for

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some unbuffered ecc RAM cooling is another item that i waffled about a

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little bit on this build so i ultimately decided to give it a shot with the AMD

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box cooler and then as long as my thermals and acoustics were fine stick

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with that and then if they're not then i can always upgrade down the line one

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thing i spent extra on that would normally be considered a splurge item

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but in this case actually makes a ton of sense is a modular power supply why don't we

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just say this the recommended way to do this would be to get your hands on

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some custom cables for the power supply

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all right that's 16 and we've got both

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one more harness as well as one more plug on our modular power supply to

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handle our other four drives i just really doubt that this is gonna work

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turns out this power supply does only come with one four connector molex cable

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but i was able to find one just kind of lying around in the warehouse so we've

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got enough even if you as an end user would end up having to order an

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additional one now comes the part of the build that's pretty much just down to

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however you want to do things connecting

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the drives to data as you can see the motherboard can only accommodate six

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drives with these connectors on the right hand edge fortunately as long as

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we've got pci express slots to spare we can add pretty much as many SATA ports

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as we want with boards like this now the most important thing to watch out for if

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you are expanding your storage is not to get a raid card you want an hba or host

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bus adapter because most software raid whether you're running it through free

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nas or unraid can behave erratically or at the very least not give you proper

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drive reporting if you are using a raid card another thing to watch out for when

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you're shopping for these is the types of connectors some of them just have the

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regular SATA connectors that you would recognize and you plug into them and

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then you've got an octopus of cables coming out plug into your drives but

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others use connectors that are more designed

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for SATA or sas backplanes so mini sas

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hd or sff 8087 are some pretty common ones the way that you connect these is

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with slightly fancier cables so here's a mini sas hd one this is an eight port

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card so you've got just these two connectors that go into the back of the drive and then

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way at the other end you've got the octopus

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oh yeah it's actually eight octopus okay so it's four per connector picking up

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cards like these second hand on ebay can be a great way to add a ton of connectivity to your system

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just one thing to watch out for guys is

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sas cards will work with SATA drives but

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not the other way around for whatever reason you have sas drives you can't buy

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SATA hbas so to be clear guys i am not

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necessarily recommending exactly the cards i'm using i'm just using whatever

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hba cards i had lying around a couple little housekeeping items still

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be taken care of i want to cable manage these kind of like this these ones for

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the bottom can go over here a couple of cable ties and then i've run myself an

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extra SATA cable for the future in case i want to plug in a second SSD down the

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line and still got to plug in these ones at the

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top overall actually this is not bad for having 20 hard drives in it i could use

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the built-in fan controller that's in the case but actually that would require

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another SATA connector and i don't have any right now all i need to do now is

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put in my temporary graphics card this

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is the fractal case yeah this thing is obnoxious what

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what do you mean obnoxious well okay i mean like in a good way this is awesome

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so i'm not that familiar with proxmox and i wanted to show people how you

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might configure a system like this in proxmox i wonder if you ceramic coated

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this if it would help with the fingerprints what is it with you in ceramic coating things i don't know

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that's cool by the way make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss our ceramic coating a phone video which was also his

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idea oh this is heavy man so i mean like straight into proxmox the only thing you

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can really create is a a single v dev pool so we could have one that's like

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raid z3 although if you're going to add more drives that would mean you would

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need to add 20 whole more drives i mean

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in an ideal world what i would probably want to do is like maybe

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three raid z ones so that would be three raid z1 v devs

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that would be three drives of capacity lost to redundancy and then i'd have two

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hot spares or something like that i mean if you're running stuff at your

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house like for me i have my ubiquity controller that runs on a vm on my nas i

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have a plex server i have lots of different vms just for doing all these

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little things home automation and like in proxmox you can do it really easy you

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can actually create containers which are still running in the host os so there's

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very little um overhead and it's super easy to maintain so why

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don't you just use freeness well aside from my bad experiences with it in

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the past it's sort of a question of

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what's more cost effective right right so unraid costs money yeah which is sort

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of a drag not a whole lot but but if i want to use zfs optimally in a way that

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is recommended by the experts who know a lot about zfs i'm actually spending more

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on memory upgrades if i don't care about the virtualization which is not how i've

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configured this in the first place than it would cost me to just buy an unrated

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license in the first place right and unraid does have some performance

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gotchas like if you allow your drives that you're not accessing currently to

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go to sleep so you disable turbo right that's bad

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and also if you configure it to fill up one drive then the next one then what

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that means is every project can potentially be i o bottlenecked by the

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individual drive that it's being pulled off of i just wanted to highlight a few

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different types of software that you can use for a config like this okay so we

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if we do df we can actually see it's 214 terabytes of capacity oh no i mean we

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lost what was it four drives good heavens three drives yeah oh man you can

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feel it wow the vibration is real you know what

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actually this would be a good way to check our drive thermals

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i'm going to put the covers on and then just like run 100 gig one and let it

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flash i'm going to install net data so we can

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actually look at the array it's nice that there's so much room for cable management on the back but in the event

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that you do have kind of a you know thick boy cable back here i would prefer

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if there was some way to screw on the side panel

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that's not that great mean it's holding but

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see that is what i'm talking about cable manager stuff better no wait watch

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out that's power for the drive there's a whole bunch what is it why is it like

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them like that don't worry about it now i did misspeak before i said that this

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was 200 it's 200 without the tempered glass side panel which we obviously

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wouldn't need for a build like this that's just the one they sent so we're using net data to monitor the disk usage

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it's always so funny because zfs messes around with it so it's like

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20 megabytes but that doesn't make any sense now that we're updated the first thing

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we need to do is create our unraid array so the parity disks right here are the

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capacity that we're going to give up in order to avoid losing data in the event

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of a physical drive failure so one parity disk means we give up one drive

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worth of capacity but it also means we can only lose one drive before we start

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to lose data after that while two means that we give up a total

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of 32 terabytes of space but we can lose two drives before we

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start to lose any data now it should be noted unread has a cache feature that

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allows you to have high speed ssds as like a faster storage tier but i use the

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word tier very loosely because it doesn't work the way you might expect it

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to you can use it to accelerate writes onto the unrate array but from my

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experience especially when working with very large amounts of data like you

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might when you're ingesting footage it can be a little bit on the finicky side

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and i wouldn't really use it for that what i would use it for is if i wanted

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to run virtual machines on this i would run all of my vms off of a raid1 set of

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ssds that i plug into my m.2 slots

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oh oh cool they built a new feature based on my feedback

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when it's formatting it automatically pauses parity sync because otherwise it

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takes like a day while we wait for the format we can adjust some of the

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settings that we talked about before so turbo write is technically called

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reconstruct write so we're going to go ahead and turn that on

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this is the second tweak i talked about we're going to use most free so as we

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write data to the share it'll go to whichever drive has the most free space

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on it which means that if we were to write 18 separate video clips it would go this

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one this one this one this one this one this one this one like that minimum free

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space is a really important parameter to tune so if we think our clips could be

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no bigger than uh 100 gigs then we need to make sure that

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we key that in now nicholas assured me that this is going to work but nicholas

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also brought me the wrong motherboard twice when we were doing that CPU repair

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thing here's our problem our chassis fans are running at 700 RPM which is

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nice and quiet but is just not enough to

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push enough air through all those friggin drives i'm gonna move our cable

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from our onboard gigabit network to our add-in 10 gig a quantcha card are we 10

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gig we're 10 gig share time who's not that busy right now

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there's my water bottle you bastard why would i

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take that i don't know but it has my name on it and also my stickers so right

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now mark is pulling in excess of gigabit speeds when he's playing back this is

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ten to one 8k red footage so really not

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what i had designed this system for and dennis how's it going okay so dennis 2

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is in excess of one gigabit but we're also getting some chop now so

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we're actually pulling three and a half gigabit per second off

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of that machine now the write speeds are not fast but the assumption that i made

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is that you guys are not working with 10 to 1 red footage and instead you're

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ingesting from sd cards in which case 60 to 80 megabytes a second should be as

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fast as you need as long as only one person's ingesting at a time the benefit

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of unraid that i think outweighs its slow rights in this case is that if

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you're the kind of person who's just starting out it allows you to just get

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one parity drive and as few as one additional storage drive and then just

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expand as you go as long as every drive that you add is smaller than the parity

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drive you can add as many different kinds of drives as you want and you can

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just add them one at a time that's something that you can't do with a zfs

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based solution like freenas or like proxmox

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i'm really surprised that this worked as well as it did

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i i mean that's like between the two of you that's around 350 megabytes a second

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that we're pulling off of that thing and drive temps have held steady even while

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we're pushing it so all the ones on the front are around 39 41 degrees and you

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can really tell which ones are the four that are in the top and at the back 47

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48 46 and i don't know maybe this one 43 could be

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worse though so it works great but of course the

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million dollar question is how much does it cost and when i say a thousand

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dollars with no drives so no ssds not

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even the usb to boot on radoff of that sounds like a lot of money but when

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you compare it to an off-the-shelf nas you would be paying more than a thousand

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dollars for one with just eight bays and it might have specs that

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are much worse than this one whereas we've got a six core processor 16 gigs

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of RAM 10 gigabit networking 20 hard drives two m.2s and two more SATA drives

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just comes down to what software works best for us so whether you choose unread

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freenas proxmox or whatever else floats your boat

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this is a great starting point if you're a starting out editor and you want to

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work with 4k footage or apparently even 8k even if you have a small team

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