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okay do we have

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audio twitch chat do we have audio do we have audio

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what flickers what flickers

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I work we have light are we good does it

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work okay it's all good

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so I don't know what's going on with

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this

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camera but I'm like super not impressed

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right now because we were doing um did you if you saw that uh that unboxing we

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did of the Kraken x40 where we were doing a dual cam setup we we were using

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xsplit to record the uh both both camera

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angles and we were trying to capture audio to the

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fs or through the fs and it wasn't working it was popping and doing a lot

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of crazy sounds and stuff yeah but it wasn't I don't think it was as bad as

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what uh yeah well I think it's the problems that there was already plus the

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fact of like putting it through xsplit which is like barely working and then

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streaming it online to these people like the combination of all those things

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probably just made it so much worse but basically that that puts me in a

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position where I'm kind of sitting here going well how does how's this supposed to work because I can record audio just

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fine to SD on this guy but something

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about outputting to HDMI suddenly doesn't work guys this is the exact

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setup that we were using for live streams in the past and we didn't change

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anything and uh yeah so I mean we're

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sorry but I don't know what else to tell you because tonight we sat down to prep

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for the live stream an hour ago and we should have

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been just ready to go and everything should have just been fine but we got

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about I don't know what half a dozen blue screens on the editing computer

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that ended up irony of ironies being caused by our a media live gamer HD

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which usually is totally solid compared to the black magic cards which usually

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crash and cause all kinds of random horrible problem problems um but I think

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it might be because we were using the bottom PCIe forx slot on the z77 board

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which is routed through the chipset rather than being routed directly to the

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CPU so

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um yeah that sucked yeah um one other

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thing as I've seen a couple times posted in the twitch chat as you may have heard

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the Forum is kind of alive it's down now

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because of physical server relocation meaning DNS servers that are everywhere

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have to repopulate and refigure out where my server is so that you guys can

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go to The Forum good news is um

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everything will be exactly how it was the minute before I brought the server

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down so you're not going to lose your posts you're not going to lose your accounts you're not going to lose

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whatever you had it's just going to be down until something somewhere decides

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that everyone can now see the form and we're really thrilled with how much

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traction there's been on the Forum already I mean you guys have been

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amazing and I don't think even that many of you know about it

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yet um yeah I mean do do any of do any

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of you guys know yet uh there there's a

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few people one guy's saying what is the IP screw waiting for the DNS I can't do

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that um because the HT access file uh in

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my Apache folder is pointing certain things in certain places based off of

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the URL name so if you go to the uh IP address it's just like an FTP

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site basically so that's not really going to help you very much um nexam my

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buddy and I have been spending incredible amounts of time huge thanks

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to him he's done tons of things that I have no idea what he's doing it's all

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voodoo magic he's a huge part of the reason pretty

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much the reason why the Forum was up at all so thanks NEX um but we've been

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slaving away making VB five V bulletin 5

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work at all it's incredible we are the only site that I know of that's actually

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a production website not like not like an example website hosted by vbulletin

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that's actually running this software um and there's a lot of things that are

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broken like editing posts as a lot of you have probably already noticed just

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doesn't work like you can edit the post but when it goes to the edit screen your

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post isn't there so it's it's kind of weird like

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there's a lot of stuff that's broken like that that we can't fix because that's based on V buol

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um there's a lot of stuff that's going around that we can fix that is kind of messed up the V buletin has like hold on

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hold on hold on hold on got it okay go ahead uh was weird for a sec um like

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different sizes for attachments and stuff the defaults for that are very

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weird and not what they actually say when it tells you like oh it has to be

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these Dimensions at this size it's not actually those dimensions of that size

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so we are looking into problem problems that

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we can fix um and hopefully V buletin

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beta 24 is as nexum would say the Holy

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Grail of beta releases and hopefully it fixes

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everything but other than that uh the form's working pretty okay the main

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problem we actually had was speed which is the reason why we did the relocation

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we pulled it from here where it was running on a line that was 5 megabits

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per second up um megabit megabit that's

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is what I said I think he said megabytes per second I meant to say megabites per

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second um to align at ncx head office

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which I was hoping was going to be 40 megabits per second up but is actually

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now that we got there 25 but that's still incredibly faster from what we

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have right now and we'll hopefully get above the bottleneck that we're

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currently sitting on to be clear guys this isn't an NC Forum this is a lonus

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tech tips dedicated Forum they're just uh sponsoring us the bandwidth increase

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that we need for now we're hoping to move either to an off-site host

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somewhere or get some kind of like

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baller internet connection here uh which

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may may actually be an option I mean we can pick ourselves up a load balancing

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router for about 150 bucks and then Shaw

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has a new service they're rolling out here that's going to be 15 megabit up we

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can pull two lines in so we might be able to do 25 to 30 megabit per second

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up from here which would be that would be really cool sort of redonkulous I

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would like to have the server on site we're Hardware guys so it's cool to be

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able to like add actually manage the server here um but you had to do some

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kaj jiggering to be able to manage it offsite with actually you should tell

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them about the config you have going right now it's kind of ridiculous there so

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there's two servers right now there's two servers right now one of them's

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Windows one of them's Linux we're trying to move everything over to the Linux box

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but then um we couldn't like properly SSH into the Linux box so oh NEX and I

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spent ridiculous amounts of time today just trying to make it so that we can

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actually connect to the boxes on nx's network because they have us behind like

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layers of networking so it's kind of odd

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trying to control things when I have no control over the routers or the switches

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so I'm just like calling up the networking guy every once in a while

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being like hey I need this kind of

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changed so that was a very interesting situation hey it's me again hey can you

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can you please do this please I need

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access please and everything ended up being kind of rigged but is working and

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yeah while we're at CES um I've got I've got one super

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moderator set up and I've got a few moderators set up um everyone's kind of

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on a trial basis right now um so watch

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those moderators let me know what you think of them make sure they're all doing fair play um I think they're all

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really they seem like really good guys I like the moderators so far but we need

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to make sure that they're all actually really good guys um so pay attention to

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them but the only admin that's going to be running online so the only guy that's going to be like controlling the back

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end of the site while we're at CES is going to be nexio so good luck to

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you thanks man we appreciate

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it oh what if it goes down uh if it like

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actually if the computer Powers down and doesn't like turn back on so like if it

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doesn't restart or anything like that and we're at CES we're kind of screwed

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um because it's sitting in a room that so basically don't dos us is what we're

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trying to say greatly appreciated don't don't like don't go to the NC head

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office and cut the power lines I mean you shouldn't do that

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anyway these are things I shouldn't have to say so far everybody on the Forum and

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everybody on Twitter and everything has been super helpful that's really nice uh

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reporting problems is great reporting stuff like it's slow like that's good

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that you told me but we know we know it's slow part of it is the 5 megabit

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connection we've been on part of it is the fact that vbulletin 5 is just kind

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of a dog yeah uh when we browse on it locally there's still that delay like

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when you click on a thread the page populates and then there's like one two

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three steam boats before you can actually click on

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something we we can't stress enough the back end for the Forum VB both and 5 is

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still in a pretty brutal stage of beta

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um so there's a lot of stuff that we can't control one of the members of the

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V bulletin Community was calling it was calling it some kind of a travesty that

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they're even calling this a beta yeah and he's like a pretty esteemed member

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of V bolon Community Max possible reputation points 30,000 posts like

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really big guy and he's raging about it he's like this is an alpha this is not a

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beta yeah and we're running it on production yeah so hang with us things

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will be fixed some of it's out of our control and I'm going as fast as I can

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with nexum to fix everything else that is within our control all right so why

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don't we uh let's do some Twitter shall we or oh okay the angle's a little funny

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we actually don't have the is this going to cause problems we don't have a mount

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for the camera so it's sitting on a cardboard sheet on top of the actual

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tripod yeah I don't have the tools handy

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to remove the stupid mounting plate from the fs and we're trying to get this back

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up as soon as we possibly could so uh

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it's okay it's just not worth it you use a quarter I don't have a quarter on me

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calm down all right so let's do some q& a what's a good mechanical keyboard

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under 70 bucks well they're not under 70 bucks

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you can find them sometimes $69.99 I

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think I've seen a quickfire like the 10 keyless ones $69.99 okay there you go if

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you can find it possibly somewhere ever yeah possibly somewhere ever I mean

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asking for mechanical keyboard under 70 bucks is me being like hey where can I

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get a good like uber gaming graphics card for under 150 bucks

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it's like well sorry it just just doesn't work that way my jacket is

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ugly Matt asks my CPU is an fx 4100 it

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doesn't perform well in CPU heavy games will upgrading to an i5 3570k show me a

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noticeable difference the answer is yes

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um especially once you're overclocking at 3570k will destroy an fx 4100 FX 4100

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is basically okay think think of it this way guys Phenom 1 didn't actually really

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improve anything over previous um what I mean what branding

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did they even use Athlon 64s I think was what they used before that Phenom 2

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improved very little over Phenom 1 it was like an incremental like like like a

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talk and then FX didn't really improve anything over

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fenom 2 and then that's where you're at

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so you're basically running an Athlon 64 whereas Intel has been marching along in

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terms of CPU performance 3570k will just destroy a

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4100 uh editing posts that comes in the

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next beta V bulletin right supposedly but it was also in previous betas

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so this is what I was talking about about brutal beta stage is like features

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that used to be in it are not in it and features that weren't in it before are

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in it like it's it's very much a beta

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and then our version of it like what we've changed and stuff is still also a

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beta so you're basically running the beta stage of a beta is what your forum

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is so yay it's it's hobbling along we're

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doing good but yeah yep uh thoughts on PC 360 I've heard it's a basier version

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of the 350 I'm not a big 350 fan okay so

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it's probably better than 350 I'd buy a 7h personally I I like them a lot more

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than the 350s have you tried the 360 I never tried them uh Harrison's got some

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oh okay yeah they're like actually I like them quite a bit okay for for a

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headset I'm not usually weigh into headsets right I like headphones with a

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mic but for a headset they're pretty awesome yeah they're really good I built

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my first computer today how come you never told me the back of the

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motherboard was Pokey um I didn't think of

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it you know what guys when you're building your first

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computer be careful of the metal on the outside of the power supply it can be

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cold we're teasing you but it's all it's all good it's all good you did good good

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work building your first computer feel free to post a picture of it on Facebook

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post a picture and post the specs and when the forum's up go to the new build

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section and post your build post your

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build cuz that's awesome yeah have you ever built a Hackintosh um that project

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is like kind of ready to go like I have the installer files on my USB drive that

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I'm ready to install on the motherboard

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that we brought back to the back to the lab today so hopefully soon but not

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before we go to CES CES is going to be like

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oh ridiculous all of our time before Zs

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was kind of devoted to like finishing off projects and me starting and

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hopefully finishing but that didn't happen the Forum um might still happen

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it's not going to be finished well it's never

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finished touche sir um yeah but it's

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it's I hope the Forum Comes live soon I'm getting kind of worried um what was

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I where was I going with this CES is bad and we won't finish anything before that

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really no and then even when we get get back from CES for the first day or two

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we're probably going to be just like managing stuff that we didn't get to

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release while we're at Cs and we'll probably be sleeping cuz we'll probably

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be sick I don't s sleep every year I get

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like just super sick right CU there's like a million people there cuz you don't sleep there's a million people

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there from all corners of the world where they've got all kinds of weird

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diseases that I've never been exposed to

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and uh I was going to say I've made it through Pax every year but Pax is a

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weekend not an entire week so this will

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be this will be a new challenge oh yeah CES is is a hall see Slick's never been

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to CES this will be my fourth or fifth year now and it's it is it is people

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think it looks fun but it's not fun lonus will eips make a huge difference

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from a TN panel the answer is yes Forum

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must be up because it's down it won't load for me too much traffic no no it's

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definitely down it's down like not because of too much traffic or it being

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broken we physically moved the server like that's what we were doing this

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morning when he ran out of gas

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um it just hasn't been a good day in

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general actually no not really like the tech tips episodes the ncx tech tips

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episodes we filmed at at NCI HQ today

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one of them was like a build guide in an matx machine that's actually within

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silverstone's classification of small form factor so this

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matx tower system is actually not much

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taller than an matx board it's about this yeah go get it go get it we'll show

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it to them I I'll explain it in the meantime so it's not much taller than an

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matx board we put dual GTX 680s in it we

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put a th000 watt power supply we put um

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I think we changed it is it do you have it already oh here we go all right so

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it's in the Sugo carrying case and holy

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crap this is one of the most difficult machines I've ever built in spite of the

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fact that I did a full build guide on it

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there we go in spite of the fact that I did a full build guide on it at the end

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of the video I had no choice but to say say look guys I don't recommend this for

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novice Builders so check this out it's not actually much bigger than a shuttle

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it's about the same length as a shuttle and it's about this much taller than a

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shuttle it's got a 120 mm intake in the front this is in the

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sg9 okay it's got okay one of the video

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cards is out now but it had dual 680s in it see like I said the matx board goes

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from here to here so it's that that gives you some idea of the scale here

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this is a 120 mil fan AO 140 and I'm

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going to see if I can get this uh this top panel off so uh entertain them with

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talk about uh what we're doing at CES what are we going to do there I'm going

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to have lots of meetings we we've been so busy with other stuff stuff we

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haven't even discussed what we're going to be doing at CES that much so I almost

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don't even know um I know we're going to be

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spending not as much time as I expected on the show floor because we have a lot

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of different sweet to go to within the hotels which will be like uh a different

00:19:02.600 --> 00:19:08.720
vendor uh will have like a suite where they'll show off specific Parts because

00:19:07.360 --> 00:19:12.880
the show floor isn't big enough and not personal enough well that and the show

00:19:10.840 --> 00:19:16.600
floor is extremely expensive and I don't think a lot of guys see the point yeah

00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:22.919
if they can just hold a suite and then get in contact with the exact people they want to anyways it's not really

00:19:19.360 --> 00:19:26.679
necessarily worth it for them um so yeah

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the plan is we've got a pretty epic

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internet connection hopefully so we'll be hopefully shoting out videos actively

00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:37.200
while we're there yeah we've noticed one big problem with reviewers that go down

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to the CES is that they don't release their stuff until like way after and

00:19:39.919 --> 00:19:47.760
then it's usually pretty lackluster so our plan is to be uploading it as fast

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as we can every single night okay check this out sorry stage two of showing you

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guys this machine so this case holds two 3 and 1 half inch hard drives here and

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here we have two ssds in raid zero down there that's two m4s right there you put

00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:07.720
another two ssds here if you want slim line optical drive in the top okay see

00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:12.120
that Tower cooler in there this thing is

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full of stuff plugging in h see I didn't

00:20:12.120 --> 00:20:20.559
look closely at the uh at the instruction Silverstone includes for

00:20:15.520 --> 00:20:21.840
this case RTM guys RTM uh because and

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okay they they also made a slight mistake because they show when you install the motherboard they show the

00:20:24.320 --> 00:20:31.000
CPU heat sink installed on it that's wrong because sounds like a turbo to

00:20:28.840 --> 00:20:34.440
install the motherboard install the four pin and then put the heat sink on but I

00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:39.000
was thinking maybe I could put it on before it settled in or something like that so anyway I had a really hard time

00:20:37.600 --> 00:20:42.880
plugging the four pin in I ended up having to take the heat sink off again

00:20:41.159 --> 00:20:47.400
to plug it in and then and then I realized oh I forgot to plug in the CPU

00:20:45.159 --> 00:20:52.640
fan header not cool not cool at all but uh

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here I want to give you guys a closer look at this I think it's on autofocus

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so you should be able to see so there's a Silverstone uh dual Tower he heat pipe

00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:05.240
cooler there's some high-profile memory in there this is a really cool cooler

00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:10.240
because it has one thick side and one Thin side so that you have enough room

00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:15.039
for all your memory slots good idea hey there's the power supply right at the

00:21:11.679 --> 00:21:17.720
front there with a pass through to uh

00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:21.640
cord at the back see right there that's where that plugs in and then while you

00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:24.400
keep talking about CEs plans I'm going to take off the bottom part of the panel

00:21:23.159 --> 00:21:30.799
so they can see where the graphics cards go again we haven't really talked about CS PL much so I don't know okay if you

00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:34.000
if you commit things to them now then there's nothing I can do about it and

00:21:32.120 --> 00:21:38.520
we'll have to do your ideas so so we're going to be eating out very nicely the

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entire time we're there this is coming out of my pocket all sponsored by the

00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:48.080
company um no no no okay we'll probably

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be eating McDonald's the entire time um you'll be lucky if you get McDonald's

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now um yeah Samsung has an interesting

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TV they releasing they released this press release go to the go to uh go to

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the site uh number number number

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four

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203 e

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cut out the audio is there audio still is there audio

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now okay so we can't show them yeah we

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can it's fixed now is it yeah don't worry I fixed

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it all good all good no audio when you

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switch it's going no there's audio now audio

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fixed everyone's so back and forth okay here tell them tell them about it okay

00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:46.120
so as you can see there Samsung released this picture and then some blurb about

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how like true Innovation comes when you

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like change the shape of things and all we got something along those lines

00:23:50.320 --> 00:23:56.440
basically this huge thing about how they're changing the shape of the TV and

00:23:54.279 --> 00:24:00.279
then they released this picture which makes me think like what why is it in

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portrait mode and that's not really a different

00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:08.880
shape either it's just a rotated shape no you turned it like this like they

00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:12.720
can't see you right now but oh right okay well they turned it vertical into

00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:17.760
Port mod press one okay now they can see us again so I don't understand how this

00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:22.080
is different from taking an existing TV and just I like they they have a driver

00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:27.760
control panel for that I think it's called you know the NVIDIA control panel

00:24:24.520 --> 00:24:30.279
or ATI control panel and you just turn

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your monitor I don't know um I'm kind of hoping it's more than just a portrait

00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:39.000
mode TV because I don't see a portrait mode TV being very applicable maybe the

00:24:37.279 --> 00:24:44.159
point they're trying to make is the extreme realism of the image and like

00:24:42.840 --> 00:24:47.960
how thin it is or something it's an awful lot of hype to

00:24:46.240 --> 00:24:52.159
generate over but then the second you try and watch a movie is it going to be

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:56.159
like half your screen is gone no there's no way it's a portrait mode TV but look

00:24:54.399 --> 00:24:59.159
at the shape it's in I know but you could just take that shape and go like

00:24:57.600 --> 00:25:01.960
this so what are you just going constantly swiv your TV no I mean it

00:25:00.840 --> 00:25:05.440
might just be thinner I don't know but then this is

00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:11.559
like I said this is a lot of hype to generate over thinner it's a shape and

00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:17.000
brighter and more vibrant and more 3D which is what we probably what it is

00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:22.440
like it since I started going to CES it's been nothing but 3D

00:25:19.320 --> 00:25:27.159
TVs and here we are what three four

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years later and it's still 3D TVs and

00:25:27.159 --> 00:25:35.880
I'm just kind of like okay okay so last year the the big thing was um was 3D TVs

00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:39.000
but not using them for 3D it was like

00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:41.200
having um cisp alternating images so

00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:44.720
that two people could watch TV at something else at the same time or not

00:25:42.919 --> 00:25:49.559
split screen split screen game like uh Playstation TV yes something like that

00:25:47.600 --> 00:25:55.559
has has okay here would love to hear this guys has anyone on Twitter or or in

00:25:52.679 --> 00:25:59.000
the twitch chat actually encountered someone who is actually using that

00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:08.039
solution are we local recording as well I don't

00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:08.039
know yeah local recording yeah oh press

00:26:09.159 --> 00:26:17.320
zero yay okay um what are my old

00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:22.200
roommates where two people are playing the game at the same time seeing

00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:24.760
different oh the that guy yeah oh okay

00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:29.200
yeah so I don't know if it really counts so it was like Black Ops zombies that's

00:26:26.919 --> 00:26:34.679
exactly what it was Black Ops Black Ops Fanboy but only the

00:26:32.320 --> 00:26:38.200
zombie mod I only knew that he did it once I don't know if he did it other

00:26:36.120 --> 00:26:44.080
than that and it was with like one of his buddies who also used to be a

00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:45.360
roommate of ours quite a while ago um

00:26:44.080 --> 00:26:50.240
yeah I'm ready to show them the rest of this system I don't have anything so

00:26:47.120 --> 00:26:52.600
check this out guys so I had two GeForce

00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:56.919
graphics cards in here two gtx680 so they were going all the way to here

00:26:54.559 --> 00:27:02.080
there's the power supply there's the CPU heat sink you can put up to 32 gigs of

00:26:59.159 --> 00:27:08.720
RAM in here just a monster monster machine check out that fan in the top

00:27:04.919 --> 00:27:10.520
just like almost hilariously stupidly

00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:14.960
full of stuff so anyway what I'm trying to say is not that it's not a really

00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:20.320
cool case and not that it isn't a really cool machine but that it was really hard

00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:25.440
to build in and because when you film a how to build a PC episode there's no

00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:32.039
such thing as like running some benchmarks and doing some prep for the

00:27:29.760 --> 00:27:36.080
episode you like you you can prep you can sort of you can read it up on it you

00:27:33.679 --> 00:27:39.720
can sort of like you can bust around with things and see how it all works but

00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:44.159
you have to actually build it you have to actually do every step and some of

00:27:41.320 --> 00:27:48.440
them were just really hard yeah to do I was off in the corner with my crazy

00:27:46.760 --> 00:27:54.799
setup of multiple servers messing around with nexam hearing like oh oh we got to

00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:59.720
redo that I got to take motherboard out again oh I could hear the amount

00:27:58.399 --> 00:28:05.960
frustrated that was on the other side of the room you know what it wasn't as bad as the F3 mini one though that one that

00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:11.120
was just a weird case it's very cool very it's interesting because it's a

00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:14.559
column yeah it's column case and again

00:28:11.120 --> 00:28:19.480
like an impressive amount of Hardware in

00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:19.480
a small space but but very

00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:26.200
dense at least the power supply was a lot easier on this one than it was on

00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:29.159
the F3 because of the short cables because of the short cable kit that you

00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:35.880
can get with Strider series power supplies so uh here let's do some

00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:35.880
Twitter okay you know what I'll just do

00:28:36.320 --> 00:28:45.440
this okay so put that there get Twitter get that where's the twinkie box twinkie

00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:46.840
box is slicks in the way right there all

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.240
right lus what tips do you have for upand cominging tech people read Lots

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:55.880
Reading Lots is the most important thing for upand cominging tech people go on

00:28:53.000 --> 00:29:00.880
our Forum when it's up yeah hey hey that too going to be lots of up andc coming

00:28:58.120 --> 00:29:06.720
typ people here uh this is for slick where can I get ducky keyboards uh

00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:08.279
tiger Imports Google tiger Imports is a

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:14.679
CM Storm trigger with Blue switches worth my money what's a storm trigger CM Storm

00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:17.440
trigger didn't you unbox one I was pretty sure you no that was a quickfire

00:29:16.320 --> 00:29:20.720
what's the difference between a trigger and a quick pretty sure you unboxed a

00:29:21.679 --> 00:29:28.120
trigger I guess basically they're good they're quite good keyboards okay yeah I

00:29:25.919 --> 00:29:33.600
didn't know yay tuning in at 5:30 we're sorry we're late guys they have crazy

00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:38.279
problems watch the uh archive if you're tuning in here move closer to the

00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:44.600
camera look at his eyes I'm pretty tired I had no idea why

00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.600
you're making me go close to the

00:29:45.320 --> 00:29:50.480
camera uh Buy Canon last time I hate

00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:55.000
Sony you set it back to stock say trust me that won't fix the

00:29:52.440 --> 00:30:00.039
problem and we are using a Canon now which has this Canon camera has its own

00:29:56.919 --> 00:30:03.960
set of issues as well oh yeah okay we're

00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:05.360
back to like 24 minutes ago so uh I saw

00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:10.080
a whole bunch of people posting that they had never seen anyone do the split

00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:13.880
screen monitor thing yeah I jumped over there while you're doing the system and

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:21.320
like just everyone was like nope no definitely not nope definitely not

00:30:18.159 --> 00:30:26.399
okay uh here's a good question from

00:30:21.320 --> 00:30:28.120
Marcus um what do you expect from AMD on

00:30:26.399 --> 00:30:32.200
at CES expect I'm going to go look for some of

00:30:29.919 --> 00:30:38.080
my topics that I had uh that I had up so I'll get you what do you expect from AMD

00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:42.399
at CES I don't expect much I hope for a

00:30:38.080 --> 00:30:43.960
lot um honestly to be 100% honest they

00:30:42.399 --> 00:30:48.480
haven't been moving that quickly lately over the last few years um but they need

00:30:46.760 --> 00:30:51.960
to so hopefully if they come up with some crazy awesome stuff at CES that

00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:58.000
would be great when was the last time you had an AMD rig uh alha

00:30:55.679 --> 00:31:03.039
64 and then I built one for my parents set was Aon 64x to i l both those

00:31:00.639 --> 00:31:08.120
processors they're amazing great great great processors and then yeah ever

00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:11.799
since then what about on the graphics card side they've been starting to talk

00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:15.919
about 8,000 series particularly they they do well on the graphics card side

00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:19.440
though atti is very strong AMD ATI is very strong that you you can usually get

00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:24.919
more frames for your dollar from what I've seen going with

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:28.200
AMD cards um whether that makes you buy

00:31:24.919 --> 00:31:30.000
them or not that's totally up to you um

00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:36.279
but yeah usually you can you can pump them really hard you can usually overc

00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:39.200
them like crazy um yeah I don't know

00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:41.720
but I'm worried about the processor side very worried about the processor side

00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:48.039
but then again they could come up with something crazy so hopefully they do that'll be great at CES I mean I'd love

00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:53.039
to see how the whole I mean okay we we talked a little bit about the NVIDIA

00:31:49.840 --> 00:31:54.960
Intel potential merger the rumor just a

00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:58.960
rumor guys right now but we talked a little bit about what that could mean

00:31:56.760 --> 00:32:03.120
for the future Maybe particularly on mobile when you look at Intel's

00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:07.519
expertise on manufacturing NVIDIA's expertise on GPU and their experience

00:32:05.080 --> 00:32:12.039
with ARM and just like what kind of crazy processors we could see I would

00:32:09.919 --> 00:32:17.000
love to see I mean they've talked about how they're going to focus more on it

00:32:13.600 --> 00:32:17.000
and Oh shoot what was his

00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:24.279
name I can't remember one of their CEOs got got outed uh not that long ago

00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:31.880
because he said he didn't care about mobile and it seems like something they do want to do but I'd love to see what

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:34.360
AMD and ATI could deliver because the

00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:40.000
only reason that Tegra has any huge advantage over anything is that GeForce

00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:44.360
ecosystem and I'm not even talking just the graphics performance of it because

00:32:42.159 --> 00:32:48.080
it's not that competitive compared to something like iPad

00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:58.679
like not today or even or or even some of the

00:32:55.279 --> 00:33:02.159
other Solutions um but the GeForce

00:32:58.679 --> 00:33:04.919
ecosystem is the developer relationships

00:33:02.159 --> 00:33:08.519
it is the the way that they're used to writing games that are powered by

00:33:06.679 --> 00:33:14.480
GeForce compatibility developer relationships stuff always working the

00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:18.080
fact that a Tigra 3 runs pretty much the

00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.639
same damn way as a GTX 680 on some level

00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:26.760
just the way that the software and the hardware are interfacing and the way that the game interacts with it so that

00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:30.480
is why Tegra is so important right now

00:33:26.760 --> 00:33:32.279
whereas AMD maybe not quite to the same

00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:41.120
extent as NVIDIA in terms of developer relationships but so much stronger than

00:33:36.360 --> 00:33:43.519
Qualcomm or Intel or I mean name anyone

00:33:41.120 --> 00:33:50.039
else it's it's a two horse race ATI Invidia radon GeForce so I i' I'd love

00:33:47.399 --> 00:33:56.919
for them to just kind of show up to that fight and start doing something

00:33:53.320 --> 00:33:58.159
somewhere somewhere something um um

00:33:56.919 --> 00:34:01.760
something interesting talking about graphics cards Far Cry 3 really

00:33:59.919 --> 00:34:04.480
surprised me with how hard it was to run I don't think lius has played it yet but

00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:08.800
you were a big fan of Far Cry 2 weren't you I no Far Cry 2 was terrible I

00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:15.919
thought you liked it Far Cry 2 was a piece of crap I thought you said you played it a whole bunch of times Far Cry

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:17.879
1 oh loved Far Cry 1 Far Cry 1 was an

00:34:15.919 --> 00:34:22.879
outstanding game did you ever play it you're a little young for that Far Cry 1

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:28.200
I play Far Cry 1 what were you like nine when it came out I don't think so I'm

00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:29.679
pretty sure cuz I maybe like 11

00:34:28.200 --> 00:34:34.040
I don't know yeah you were like a kid when Far Cry came out that's weird I

00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:38.440
feel I know weird yeah I feel old anyway anyways yeah Far Cry 1 was

00:34:36.560 --> 00:34:43.879
good no Far Cry 2 was crap the respawning guys oh that stuff was crap I

00:34:42.359 --> 00:34:48.520
okay you know what though I I forgot about this this is a

00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:52.399
good story Far Cry 2 I actually played it a fair bit because I hadn't really

00:34:50.399 --> 00:34:56.560
played like I'd never played uh Grand Theft Auto or like any other sort of

00:34:54.280 --> 00:35:00.200
open world sandboxy right okay yeah so I'd never really done the hold that

00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:04.200
whole thing and the graphics were great and you know the Gunplay is good and all

00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:10.280
of that um I couldn't finish

00:35:06.839 --> 00:35:12.720
it I got a save game like all the way

00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:18.320
deep into the game and did you play Far Cry 2 yeah but really really quickly in

00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:22.839
once okay one of the things is that you're sick do you remember that yeah

00:35:21.200 --> 00:35:28.560
okay you get sick so you have to get like malaria medications like sometimes

00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:33.720
and uh what happened is it gives you like a notification that you need to get

00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:35.960
malaria meds like soon and so one of my

00:35:33.720 --> 00:35:40.320
save games and I I I think it was Auto is it Autos save for that game or

00:35:37.560 --> 00:35:46.200
something like that oh no I going physically too far away to get anywhere

00:35:44.200 --> 00:35:51.160
with meds I tried probably a dozen times in every direction in every possible way

00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:55.920
so I would just die and I was like well I'm not starting

00:35:53.119 --> 00:36:00.079
over cuz the whole game is just a grind my best story with that is more ruined

00:35:58.200 --> 00:36:02.960
you start the game and they give you this package and you're supposed to go

00:36:01.680 --> 00:36:07.240
give it to this guy but it's just like oh yeah give this package to this guy

00:36:05.160 --> 00:36:11.400
and you can sell it so at the beginning of the game you're like oh I want money

00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.800
you sell everything in your inventory you're done you can't start the main

00:36:13.839 --> 00:36:19.839
quest but it doesn't exactly tell you what the main quest is because it's a

00:36:17.359 --> 00:36:23.520
like uber definition of sandbox game right like amazing game but you could

00:36:21.680 --> 00:36:28.839
just go screw off like I played this game for months and had no idea what the

00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:32.920
main quest was had never started it had multiple characters always sold the book

00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:36.240
or package thing eventually eventually my dad and I were

00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:40.440
like this game is amazing but we know we're missing a lot let's go get the players guide so we can find all the

00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:45.000
stuff that we're missing B the players guide I was like

00:36:42.560 --> 00:36:48.960
whoa there's a main quest and it's interesting let's go actually start

00:36:47.040 --> 00:36:54.240
playing the game that is so much worse than mine that it's not even

00:36:51.359 --> 00:36:57.680
funny I love morwin Vlog so many hours in that game but without even actually

00:36:56.079 --> 00:37:01.520
playing the game without playing the main quest but that's how good that game

00:36:59.560 --> 00:37:05.760
was like it didn't matter I never got into it I think it doesn't help though

00:37:03.560 --> 00:37:09.599
that I'd already logged like a bajillion hours on Oblivion and then I tried to go

00:37:08.200 --> 00:37:14.880
back and play morrowwind you kind of have to go through it larly cuz I'd never played morrowwind before the

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:18.520
journal system in mowind is very difficult to just pick up you got to be

00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:21.839
used to it and like once you get I think it's the tribunal expansion it makes it

00:37:20.640 --> 00:37:26.640
so you can actually navigate to individual quests in your Journal but

00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:31.359
before then it's just your guy writing logs about things it's happening and

00:37:28.520 --> 00:37:35.400
it's just like a journal so if something happened couple days ago and you've done

00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:38.720
a whole bunch of stuff to figure out where you're at at that Quest you have

00:37:36.520 --> 00:37:43.440
to like flip through pages and like figure it out like it's not very Noob

00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.440
friendly and I I I like I like I fired

00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:51.680
it up once and I got my character and I was going to be like a cat dude and I

00:37:47.560 --> 00:37:51.680
went like down a path and it was just

00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:56.880
like I was like well come on what

00:37:55.200 --> 00:38:01.920
there's no like there's no like Noob friendly like questing Zone at the

00:37:59.520 --> 00:38:05.880
beginning a little bit but not that much the second you step like a little bit

00:38:03.640 --> 00:38:09.960
past the line you're done and like it's got D andd rolling systems for attacks

00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:15.079
so if you run up to something you can be like I'm not hitting you cuz you'll just

00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:19.480
keep on rolling and if you're not good enough at that skill so like say dagger

00:38:17.640 --> 00:38:24.319
I can just stab and stab and stab and stab and stab and never hit him like ha

00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:28.079
ha my defense numbers are higher than your dagger rolling numbers I then win

00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:32.079
because of the D andd system right so it's it's not very Noob friendly in that

00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:37.000
aspect right okay well I had a topic for

00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:45.359
discussion um why does Nero bother to still update

00:38:43.319 --> 00:38:49.800
their disc burning software we talked about this a bit

00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:54.880
ago uh the only thing I was able to come up with was compatibility with different

00:38:52.200 --> 00:39:00.240
systems okay let me put it this way it still works on everything I have an

00:38:57.560 --> 00:39:05.960
ancient version of Nero that I bought way back like early XP days back when

00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:10.960
you bought burning software because now there's free okay so okay so aside from

00:39:08.680 --> 00:39:15.319
the fact that it doesn't need any new functionality there's free options that

00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:19.119
are just as good now is that is that maybe the thing then they roll out a new

00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:23.040
version make you buy the new version make you buy the new version how they

00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:28.079
don't make you buy it that same version runs on Windows 8 just fine no no I know

00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:33.280
but like like no cares you have version four to get version five I'm just using

00:39:30.680 --> 00:39:35.720
random want version five I'm just saying if you had version four to get version

00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:39.760
five do you have to buy it or does it update I think you have to buy it yeah yeah okay so it's for people that aren't

00:39:38.560 --> 00:39:43.520
super tech have and they're like oh I need the newest best one what could they

00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:47.079
possibly think they need the newest best one for them I don't know because

00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.720
everyone says keep your stuff updated okay why don't they just do this then

00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:53.119
why don't they just lay off their entire development team and just just change

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.920
numbers just change the numbers and CH reskin it hire some designers to reskin

00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:00.280
it yeah Hire One designer and fire your

00:39:58.240 --> 00:40:06.480
entire development team like what new functionality is there in disc burning

00:40:02.319 --> 00:40:08.839
over the last six years uh light scribe

00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:12.240
light scribe M disk M disk doesn't require so special software is that all

00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:16.440
done through the LG drive all done through the special laser that engraves

00:40:14.359 --> 00:40:20.640
into the special medium nothing on the software side all right so that's just

00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.000
the drive yeah so light scribe and light

00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:26.599
scribe Blu-ray Blu-ray is it the same on the

00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:31.160
software end okay it's possible we need a Blu-ray software Blu-ray burning who

00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:37.400
would burn a Blu-ray I don't know I'm just saying why there might be

00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:43.000
something okay for all of you out there who have burned a Blu-ray I'm going to

00:40:39.359 --> 00:40:45.200
open your eyes to a fantastic world of

00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:52.000
of amazingness that you are just going to be blown away by it is

00:40:49.040 --> 00:40:57.760
called the archiving your stuff on a hard drive system so Blu-ray discs how

00:40:55.680 --> 00:41:00.319
much do they cost now I don't I've never bought one last time I looked it was

00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:07.280
around eight bucks but I'm sure it's cheaper now let's say they're let's say

00:41:03.720 --> 00:41:09.720
they're $3 just for the sake of argument

00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:13.119
let's say they're $3 how many gigs of data do they store on them it's 25 right

00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:17.160
someone's going to correct us yeah but then you can get uh there's dual layer

00:41:15.240 --> 00:41:23.680
yeah but those cost a lot I'm sure they do yeah those are actually like baller

00:41:19.520 --> 00:41:26.280
expensive yeah so okay so 25 gigs on a

00:41:23.680 --> 00:41:30.720
Blu-Ray so here this is this is a here we're going to do a quick price

00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:33.760
comparison here so

00:41:30.720 --> 00:41:38.319
nci.com we're going to look at how much

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:43.880
a 2 terb external drive costs

00:41:38.319 --> 00:41:46.640
so around a 100 bucks okay so that is

00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:54.079
2,000 divid 25 25 equals 80 Blu-ray

00:41:51.119 --> 00:42:00.920
discs so Blu-ray it already loses time whoa hold

00:41:57.520 --> 00:42:04.240
on okay these are okay hold on Blu-ray

00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:06.520
disc there we go so single Blu-ray disc

00:42:04.240 --> 00:42:10.480
oh that's a 50 gig for seven bucks okay okay so that's a and there's a

00:42:07.560 --> 00:42:14.040
rewritable for 10 by the way hard drives are all

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:20.880
rewritable probably more than your rewritable disc okay I can't even see

00:42:16.839 --> 00:42:24.000
like a there's a two pack for 30

00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:27.599
bucks uh how much do these things cost

00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:31.160
these can't be right

00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:35.599
seriously okay this is worse than I

00:42:31.160 --> 00:42:35.599
thought okay so

00:42:36.520 --> 00:42:45.119
four okay so okay so you can get them for as little as around a buck but

00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:51.319
that's like rose will so anything that's like a real a real brand um is probably

00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:56.079
more like more like double that so about about two bucks each so $160 yeah so 160

00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:59.800
bucks is what you're paying for your Blu-ray discs

00:42:58.160 --> 00:43:05.040
oh man guys just don't do it I mean something like this is so perfect these

00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:10.640
backup pluses are great because they come on a little like dock

00:43:08.200 --> 00:43:15.280
thing here's a tech tip for you guys back everything up to hard drives so

00:43:13.359 --> 00:43:19.920
they come on a little dock thing and then look at this it's basically like

00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:25.280
the size of like a VHS cassette so you just have a shelf you like put these on

00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:26.920
it you put a label on the handy dandy

00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:32.400
label friendly spot with some masking tape boom you've archived your media on

00:43:29.680 --> 00:43:38.319
something that is less likely to deade than uh than a plastic disc on something

00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:39.960
that is much more much much more likely

00:43:38.319 --> 00:43:42.920
to still be around in the future in terms of finding something that'll read

00:43:41.359 --> 00:43:46.800
it easily although CD has been pretty resilient but then how useful is a CD at

00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.800
this point you can repurpose it for other things you could take the whole thing apart repurpose it for an internal

00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:56.880
drive throw it in a server you can easily swap them in and out just by

00:43:54.680 --> 00:44:00.559
popping them onto a base station just like like that so and you can plug as

00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:04.440
many or as few into your computer as you want you you can sync from one to

00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:08.640
another one so you can back up from one to another they're they're faster to

00:44:06.359 --> 00:44:13.680
write I mean do do I even need to do this the only disc solution that I would

00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:17.760
ever see being better than that is like super super super important documents

00:44:15.720 --> 00:44:21.000
that you write to an M disk yeah M disk I'm kind of sold on M disk is kind of

00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:26.119
amazing but then the capacities aren't that high cuz it's only DVD yeah so use

00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:31.359
like backup hard drives for just like pictures everything and then yeah like

00:44:28.520 --> 00:44:36.200
hard drives for like movies and yeah everything else so M disk is like

00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:40.000
Precious family photos or like your will baby pictures wedding pictures other

00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:46.000
very important things super important documents like you said will stuff like

00:44:41.839 --> 00:44:48.440
that um but other than that just go back

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:51.880
up hard drives don't burn to Blu-rays and like people think of it in terms of

00:44:50.240 --> 00:44:55.000
the transactional price I think sometimes cuz I've had people make the

00:44:53.319 --> 00:44:59.880
DVD archiving argument and they're like oh well DVD is only a couple cents and

00:44:56.720 --> 00:45:01.880
I'm like okay it only holds four gigs so

00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:04.119
you've got like and how much is your time

00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:11.359
worth I don't want to sit there

00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:13.160
burning like like you said 80 Blu-rays

00:45:11.359 --> 00:45:19.160
and then it's not even it's not even easy to like figure out what you've now

00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:23.839
written to that disc and which disc has cuz Okay think about it this way if

00:45:20.359 --> 00:45:26.119
you're like wedding video part one two

00:45:23.839 --> 00:45:31.720
three did did you burn them in chronological order did you burn them in

00:45:28.839 --> 00:45:35.240
alphabetical order did you burn like the pictures of the hot bridesmaids on the

00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:40.280
one over there so that your wife wouldn't see it like I don't

00:45:36.839 --> 00:45:43.160
know is she watching this you

00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:48.359
think it's probably okay I have no idea she used to watch them now I think

00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:54.640
she got bored of them I mean it's Tech stuff what what does she care timately

00:45:50.599 --> 00:45:56.160
right um what are topic oh yeah uh like

00:45:54.640 --> 00:45:59.960
okay here's another one why do people why do you bother why do you bother

00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:04.079
updating a phone like notepad app why do you bother writing a special notepad app

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:09.720
let's talk about Slick's phone because he loves his phone so Huggy much tell me

00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:13.559
about S note I hate S note I have a perfect note app though tell tell me all

00:46:11.319 --> 00:46:17.440
about S note I want to hear about S Note why did Samsung write a Notepad

00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:21.440
application why did Samsung write any of the applications on that phone be

00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:28.480
nice okay you tried to use S Note for what a couple weeks yeah I was okay so

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:33.480
oh did you know that the memo pad that comes on the iPhone works really

00:46:30.520 --> 00:46:37.400
well shut up um not a lot of functionality just text input but well

00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:40.480
that's what I wanted okay to be honest okay why did you start using S Note here

00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:44.319
we go started using S Note for the live streams if you guys see me or lus when

00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:47.559
we're on the streams we're ever looking at our phones it's because we have

00:46:46.040 --> 00:46:51.559
certain people watching the audience we're not interested in talking to you

00:46:49.040 --> 00:46:54.280
people so just no no there's certain people that are in the audience that

00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:58.599
have our phone numbers that will text us if things are going wrong like audio

00:46:55.960 --> 00:47:03.760
really yeah okay I do maybe your friends don't care as much but I don't have any

00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:07.960
friends that's the issue that's unfortunate anyways text me if there's

00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:11.040
audio problems uh that's why I jump up sometimes I'll hear my phone buzz and

00:47:09.640 --> 00:47:17.280
then just like Dart over and see if one of my buddies is texting me saying there's an audio problem or something um

00:47:15.359 --> 00:47:20.480
and because we keep our notes there I'm looking at pictures of the baby that got

00:47:18.839 --> 00:47:25.040
sent to me throughout the day he's eating green beans it's pretty cute

00:47:22.839 --> 00:47:28.760
sorry carry on um we keep our notes there for live stream so we try and

00:47:26.200 --> 00:47:34.400
think of topics so I was trying to use S Note man that was frustrating ah if I

00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:37.760
did like the slightest thing wrong so it would like go to a different tab with an

00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:40.720
S note or anything like if I clicked on anything that wasn't proper it would

00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:46.119
move away from the stuff that I was currently typing just delete

00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:49.400
everything oh my God so like we'd be on a really long car ride somewhere and I'd

00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:52.559
be like documenting all this stuff we're thinking of and like Googling up topics

00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:56.280
that we can hopefully talk about so live stream isn't boring as all hell and then

00:47:54.839 --> 00:48:00.800
I've got a whole bunch of stuff and I walk out of the car and like just sleep

00:47:58.680 --> 00:48:05.520
my phone and put it in my pocket go open up later it's just like who nope all

00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:10.200
your lines are removed the app is still open but all your lines are removed I'm

00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:13.200
just like ah why so I ended up

00:48:10.200 --> 00:48:14.079
downloading some random app I don't even

00:48:13.200 --> 00:48:20.280
know what it's called it's called like simple note or something and it's Lally just a white screen and like a list of

00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:24.880
the documents that you have and you just like click on them and then it brings up

00:48:22.680 --> 00:48:28.800
just a white screen again and then you can just like type wherever you want

00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:34.400
it's like that's exactly what I wanted all I wanted was a mirror of the notepad

00:48:31.160 --> 00:48:36.400
app for PC that's that's all I wanted

00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:39.720
but they had to add all this additional functionality which barely works and

00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:45.480
then the whole app barely works because everything else barely works H we have

00:48:42.720 --> 00:48:49.839
to do our Windows 8 giveaway so you had a question that you

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:53.720
wanted to use as our trivia so I'm going to brief them on who's sponsoring the

00:48:51.720 --> 00:48:59.079
giveaway in the meantime while you go remember what it was okay one second

00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:03.760
okay so guys the uh the Windows 88 giveaway is sponsored by Timmy tech TV

00:49:01.680 --> 00:49:12.040
so we're going to go ahead and go to Timmy Tech TV's YouTube

00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:15.440
channel and I'm going to try to freaking

00:49:12.040 --> 00:49:15.440
get this going all right

00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:22.200
youtubes.com slash I can't find the slash on this

00:49:20.640 --> 00:49:27.839
keyboard I've had a lot of people ask me what keyboard This is and it's some AO

00:49:25.240 --> 00:49:37.880
one I actually don't remember it's KB 178 RT KB 178 RT it's not perfect by any

00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:41.799
stretch of the imagination but it works

00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:44.319
and uh it kind of gets the job done and

00:49:41.799 --> 00:49:52.000
we oh oh really no I don't want to stay on this page go away what is this oh man

00:49:49.040 --> 00:49:57.480
British Columbia mom makes $7,000 a month and you won't believe how she does

00:49:53.680 --> 00:49:59.400
it and it's not letting me leave there

00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:06.440
we go leave not sponsored by that sorry for

00:50:02.720 --> 00:50:09.680
that guys Timmy tech TV there we go

00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:13.559
Timmy tech TV channel so he has

00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:15.000
sponsored us four copies of oh look at

00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:19.760
that he featured my channels on his channel that was nice of him uh he he

00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:23.960
sponsored me four copies of Windows 8 to give away on the next four live streams

00:50:21.799 --> 00:50:29.640
so oh another thing guys there won't be a live stream next week because next

00:50:26.359 --> 00:50:31.720
week we will be in Vegas if we manage to

00:50:29.640 --> 00:50:36.440
stream something on Friday oh no no by Friday night we'll be on a plane

00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:37.880
slick yeah not going to happen we can't

00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:41.880
do a we can't do a live stream while we're there yeah that's not feasible

00:50:40.319 --> 00:50:46.559
he's giving me that look like he really want he really wants to live stream while we're there when will we be back

00:50:44.839 --> 00:50:50.280
I'm sorry when will we be back oh we're not live streaming the night we get back

00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.280
from

00:50:51.240 --> 00:50:57.240
CES if I can get everything set up I'll drag him into a chair but there's no

00:50:55.920 --> 00:51:04.960
promises I might be I might look like this in the

00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:06.200
chair welcome to I will try but there's

00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:12.040
no promises um so anyway have you have you

00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:14.960
managed to figure this out yet um how do

00:51:12.040 --> 00:51:21.880
how do you watch asy Star Wars in Windows well okay okay guys so the first

00:51:18.240 --> 00:51:25.680
one to tweet the correct answer

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:28.760
100% letter for letter perfectly the

00:51:25.680 --> 00:51:33.040
correct answer to Slick's question here

00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:34.799
is the winner so I'm going to go ahead

00:51:33.040 --> 00:51:43.160
and we're going to fire up Twitter and uh here we go slick come

00:51:40.359 --> 00:51:46.799
back ask your question how do you watch asy Star Wars in

00:51:48.040 --> 00:51:54.760
Windows and we're looking for like the legit way to do it not like going on

00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:58.920
YouTube and searching for asky Star Wars yeah like how do you like how do you do

00:51:56.839 --> 00:52:05.960
it like you can do this offline like how do you like the whole thing it's

00:52:03.040 --> 00:52:11.280
it's seriously okay let's see so the first one the first one oh hold on we

00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:14.599
have at least one correct answer uh never mind you can actually you have to

00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.839
be online okay you have to be online fine but like that's not the point

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:24.839
that's not what I'm trying to prove like you don't have to open a browser there

00:52:19.520 --> 00:52:27.200
we go okay here we go so wow bam Kevin

00:52:24.839 --> 00:52:33.400
knew the answer I didn't not think that would be that easy Okay Kevin I am going

00:52:30.200 --> 00:52:35.400
to follow you on Twitter so that you can

00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:40.640
private message me private message me you are getting a free copy of Windows 8

00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:45.240
congratulations Timmy tech TV is going to send that to you and uh you should be

00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:48.799
super thrilled because does it work in Windows 8 as well apparently I didn't

00:52:47.240 --> 00:52:52.760
know that it did but apparently so you can go watch your asky Star Wars in your

00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:57.160
brand new copy of Windows 8 thanks guys for participating and I

00:52:55.359 --> 00:53:01.440
hope you found it to be a little bit more organized this week compared to

00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:06.799
last oh last week was a disaster did you watch it I ended up watching yeah it was

00:53:03.839 --> 00:53:10.799
terrible I just I don't blame you though but like it was bad I well okay I that's

00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:16.960
why I tried to pick something more structured you knew what a long day I'd had that day already plus I think you

00:53:15.240 --> 00:53:22.520
have a better understanding now of how much I'm able to sleep at

00:53:19.240 --> 00:53:26.119
night between my cat and my baby it is a

00:53:22.520 --> 00:53:30.079
miracle that I get any rest at all it's

00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:31.760
help for him but yeah yeah yeah it's

00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:38.599
help the for him indeed okay here we go sound card and

00:53:35.359 --> 00:53:41.400
headset for 7.1 gaming first of all get

00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:47.319
a proper headphone or headset with two speakers in it agreed yep 100% 100%

00:53:45.160 --> 00:53:49.920
agreed find some sound card that does some cheeseball surround effect if you

00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:55.359
really want that it will be better it will honestly

00:53:52.480 --> 00:54:01.920
sound better I have owned both and actual 7 .1 doesn't sound as good as

00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:04.839
really good high quality headphones with

00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:09.640
s surround soft software trickery is where it's at guys remember guys two

00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:11.559
ears two speakers is all you need and I

00:54:09.640 --> 00:54:13.599
know that question was googleable but pretty much any question that we're

00:54:12.720 --> 00:54:18.000
going to be able to come up with is going to be googleable and the people

00:54:16.119 --> 00:54:21.760
that answered were really quick yeah they were fast enough that they probably

00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.839
knew they probably just knew it um and you'll always be at an advantage if you

00:54:23.359 --> 00:54:28.680
actually know the answer which is which is great kind of the point guys actually

00:54:26.839 --> 00:54:37.760
oh have you have you seen that virtual haircut thing no no okay uh mandatory

00:54:34.640 --> 00:54:38.839
mandatory assignment here guys everyone

00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:43.640
needs to after the live stream of course you

00:54:41.359 --> 00:54:51.200
need to stay and watch us first um search for Virtual Barber Shop this is I

00:54:48.680 --> 00:54:55.799
recognize this maybe I have this is all the evidence you need there it is use

00:54:53.640 --> 00:54:59.280
headphones close your eyes and you basically oh yeah I have heard of this

00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:04.520
yes definitely it sounds like you're getting a haircut if you needed evidence

00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:09.200
that you only have two ears and you only need two

00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:12.839
speakers that is it so there you go if

00:55:09.200 --> 00:55:15.280
you're in a home theater setting 7.1 is

00:55:12.839 --> 00:55:21.200
awesome when when the speakers are directly covering your entire ear it's

00:55:18.319 --> 00:55:23.880
it's so cool though have okay did have you tried it oh yeah definitely I

00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:27.319
thought you were talking about something no no no no iing I you were still on the

00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.319
audio topic it's so freaking cool yeah know it's awesome definitely the best

00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:35.559
thing ever you should definitely go watch it listen to it what do we got MS

00:55:32.839 --> 00:55:40.400
DOS also well apparently it works in MS DOS as well cool yeah it works in like

00:55:37.520 --> 00:55:45.200
tons of stuff I think it might work in uh Linux as

00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:46.960
well got a bunch of answers

00:55:45.200 --> 00:55:49.960
here uh

00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:57.839
okay we have one guy who answered Star Wars well yes that would be a way to

00:55:55.400 --> 00:56:02.839
watch Star Wars Windows carefully yeah

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:06.960
yeah oh

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:14.680
no offline mode and Safari apparently I don't know who how many people install

00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:16.720
Safari on their Windows machines no it

00:56:14.680 --> 00:56:22.720
yeah I Do download on iTunes and play through

00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:29.000
quick Time Justin you're fired I like it though buy a CD

00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:34.200
it wasn't the point guys she's Windows Media Player these guys are like trying

00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:37.520
to legit answer like the question and it's like no no it's it's it's a trick

00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:41.960
it's like a trick question I didn't want to say it was a command line input

00:56:39.680 --> 00:56:45.720
because yeah cuz that's like yeah that's too obvious yeah because you could just

00:56:43.720 --> 00:56:50.240
say like I wanted the Google search to be at least not 100% straightforward by

00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:55.839
getting a job and buying it yes the extreme Computing you are the

00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.520
winner of tonight's live stream you don't get a copy of Windows but you get

00:56:57.319 --> 00:57:06.240
our respect you get all the internet cookies all the internet cookies OMG

00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:09.640
slick is so hot and I think Julie isn't

00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:12.280
the only girl who actually thinks

00:57:09.640 --> 00:57:19.680
so no don't continue onwards keep going I will

00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:21.880
hurt you just keep going just keep going

00:57:19.680 --> 00:57:21.880
keep

00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:33.760
going okay okay okay we're moving on we're moving on

00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:34.920
uh oh big NVIDIA announcement at CES

00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:41.039
okay I'm kind of curious about this Deacon usually tweets pretty good

00:57:37.200 --> 00:57:43.039
stuff live from Las Vegas how to tune in

00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:47.359
to NVIDIA's news oh we're missing this we're not going to be there in time so

00:57:45.640 --> 00:57:53.240
whatever's yeah we're we're going down on um oh wait what

00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:56.640
Sunday no it's during the day Sunday we

00:57:53.240 --> 00:57:58.480
don't arrive till Sunday night oh so so

00:57:56.640 --> 00:58:04.319
yeah we're we're missing we're missing it there's like a live show it's like a

00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:06.000
big event I'll watch it then I have no

00:58:04.319 --> 00:58:09.720
idea what they're uh what they're talking about but it should be should be

00:58:07.680 --> 00:58:13.760
pretty cool maybe it's the their things can no it's probably a lot bigger than

00:58:11.520 --> 00:58:15.880
that yeah the GeForce experience is cool but I don't think this is going to be

00:58:14.799 --> 00:58:21.520
it's probably a lot bigger than that yeah they're making like a really big deal out of this uh what case 300 r or

00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:27.319
692 Advanced did I say 600 R cuz I meant to

00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:30.520
say 300 R yeah I saw that uh

00:58:27.319 --> 00:58:32.000
um I don't know I'd go 300 R I probably

00:58:30.520 --> 00:58:37.760
would just the more the more modern feature

00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:40.480
set just is a good thing um I've built

00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:45.440
in the 300 R more yeah which gives it kind of an unfair Advantage because I I

00:58:42.359 --> 00:58:47.079
kind of know it I only did a 692 Advance

00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:50.920
build a long time ago but it's a good case I haven't built in one I've just

00:58:48.680 --> 00:58:54.640
seen it really no it's really good like it's easy to build in everything's

00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:58.440
really intuitive Cooler Master does such a good job of that no I know I know uh

00:58:56.799 --> 00:59:03.039
just I've built in the 300 R lot I haven't built in the other one so that's why I didn't actually ever give a

00:59:01.200 --> 00:59:06.079
suggestion but I kind of would just lean towards that one cuz that's only one I

00:59:04.359 --> 00:59:10.200
have personal experience with slick looks

00:59:08.640 --> 00:59:17.520
familiar hey you could easily be like a a mesh

00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:19.720
between these two guys and this

00:59:17.520 --> 00:59:24.079
one I need a haircut well

00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:29.520
yes I might need a touchup before we go as well

00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:31.880
I'm like f i was you you can ask my

00:59:29.520 --> 00:59:36.440
roommate I'm like I was planning to get a haircut literally like 3 months ago um

00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:40.000
just never Happ Chris Barry wins all the internets we have to take the internets

00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:43.960
away from whoever won it last time because that is the most creative

00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:49.280
spelling of Wednesday I have ever seen there's even a

00:59:46.640 --> 00:59:52.599
space it's not capitalized like let's try to find how many things are wrong

00:59:50.680 --> 00:59:57.039
with this it's not capitalized capitalized there's a space there's a

00:59:54.280 --> 01:00:02.520
space the the the D and the N the D and the N are reversed uh there's a missing

00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:07.640
e there's a missing e

01:00:02.520 --> 01:00:09.440
k it has like a 15 exclamation marks the

01:00:07.640 --> 01:00:13.280
sentence isn't capitalized you don't need a like

01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:19.920
there okay yay

01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:22.359
Chris we love you man welcome to the

01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:25.640
internet I have what's bit cass's infinite drive I'm not familiar with

01:00:23.839 --> 01:00:30.960
that unfortunately maybe we should look into that after

01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:35.039
sure um Blu-ray burners for giving others huge amounts of data without

01:00:32.359 --> 01:00:40.280
giving them a whole hard drive and bdxl is 125 gigs okay but how much does a

01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:42.599
bdxl cost so that still holds with sort

01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:47.640
of what we're saying and if I ever give people huge amounts of data um it's

01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:51.880
usually not like here archive this it's usually like here take this really

01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:56.440
quickly and I would use I was going there

01:00:53.480 --> 01:01:00.799
yeah I would use a flash drive man I would use a flash drive or I would like

01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:06.079
FTP it to them or I would use a Dropbox system so for the cost of your Blu-ray

01:01:03.200 --> 01:01:12.119
discs to match that 2 TB capacity you could buy your 2 TB hard drive and a big

01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:15.079
fat USB drive and they're

01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:19.000
rewritable again yeah but and you could get like a baller one like this that's

01:01:16.839 --> 01:01:23.000
impossible to destroy Survivor Stealth for the win they're pretty epic but like

01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:26.480
I I I understand he's trying to play devil advocate he's trying to like spur

01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:30.200
the conversation but I just still don't think it's feasible what Summoner name

01:01:28.359 --> 01:01:37.559
do you play and what region do you play on shout out to Henry

01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:41.000
fam yeah I back up my Wii and PS2 games

01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:42.920
on okay yes you can back up your games

01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:47.079
on that's a legitimate reason to have well sort of legitimate reason to have a

01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:50.000
burner he's actually doing it hey look at that look how the color changes when

01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:53.440
I switch these it's better on this one see how yellow we look cuz you can have

01:01:51.720 --> 01:01:56.240
different settings in the scenes I know but I think I must have messed up scene

01:01:54.799 --> 01:02:00.880
one well we were in kind of a hurry in my defense yeah whatever at least it's

01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:05.839
working want to replace my two see this is the problem that I have with the case

01:02:03.200 --> 01:02:10.400
guys who don't use standard fan sizes and I mean I know 200 mil and 160 mil

01:02:08.520 --> 01:02:15.000
and 180 mil and 230 they're all kind of standard fan sizes but I mean by

01:02:12.839 --> 01:02:18.720
standard like someone actually makes replacement fans for it yeah um bit

01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:23.119
Phoenix is doing a good job of supporting the fan sizes that they

01:02:20.720 --> 01:02:26.720
generate and bit Phoenix fans look really cool they're one of the only

01:02:24.680 --> 01:02:30.079
Brands they perform okay yeah no I know they Alchemy Pros are good fans I'm not

01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:35.480
saying they don't just like a lot of people like I love KN to a fans but look

01:02:33.079 --> 01:02:39.799
at them and then put one beside a bit Phoenix fan and just like get a

01:02:37.799 --> 01:02:44.480
13-year-old kid to pick which one he thinks is cooler okay like the bit

01:02:41.720 --> 01:02:47.319
Phoenix fans look awesome by that lot okay so what I should make all the

01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:51.079
decisions in my life based on what 13-year-olds think are

01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:56.880
cool do you have any of those in your system they're like your favorite fans

01:02:53.119 --> 01:02:56.880
do you have any of them in your system

01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:02.559
no but they're the best come on you know

01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.200
they come on why am I fist bumping you you just

01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:12.000
burned me I shouldn't be acknowledging this at

01:03:08.799 --> 01:03:14.200
all they just look atrocious and like

01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:17.520
okay if you have okay fine I will put nff 12s in the basement of my tj07 in

01:03:16.839 --> 01:03:22.559
the basement key word actually I won't put them there I

01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:28.960
knew you wouldn't cuz you're going to put silver Stones aren't you yeah I have air penet 21

01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:34.359
there are okay okay okay fine here let me put it this way then if I was

01:03:31.680 --> 01:03:38.480
building it oo I was going to say if I was building

01:03:36.799 --> 01:03:44.760
a machine that had a closed side panel I'd use them but my wife's machine does

01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:47.319
not use noas I have I have a test bench

01:03:44.760 --> 01:03:54.119
with nas on it is the that's the point of the test

01:03:49.839 --> 01:03:54.119
bench though isn't it to perform really

01:03:54.200 --> 01:04:00.680
well no to portb sounds and stuff for fans you're using a Consolidated fan

01:03:58.799 --> 01:04:06.079
format no no not that one no no the other test bench the one with the cougar

01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:08.440
power supply oh we never used that one

01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:13.400
we do sometimes we never used it has p12s on it we used we used it for months

01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:17.119
we used that test bench almost exclusively for months because no not

01:04:15.319 --> 01:04:20.640
almost exclusively because I needed another test bench and you said here's a

01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:25.039
bunch of Hardware build one and I grabbed those

01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:26.599
fans no I changed no no you don't

01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:32.079
remember because because I changed them out when I was trying to do acoustic

01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:35.240
testing on video cards I needed fans

01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:37.839
that could run near silent on the actual

01:04:35.240 --> 01:04:42.640
CPU Cooler itself so that I could take sound readings from the video card on an

01:04:40.240 --> 01:04:47.319
overclocked CPU system without the CPU fans ramping up like crazy they are the

01:04:44.680 --> 01:04:50.000
best fans but you didn't care about the look of it because it was on a

01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:55.720
performance-based test bench but if it was a choice between

01:04:53.359 --> 01:04:59.839
these and ones that didn't perform well at all I would go with these oh of

01:04:57.319 --> 01:05:02.680
course yeah no I I love Noctua fans I just can't bring myself to install them

01:05:01.160 --> 01:05:07.760
in my system because they're ugly but AP 121s are like they look great and they

01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:12.000
perform they're 90% as good gentle typhoons

01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:13.920
are you could argue as good but I

01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:17.160
wouldn't run them at those kinds of RPMs so I would take a knock to over gentle

01:05:15.319 --> 01:05:21.039
typhoons to be perfectly honest gentle typhoons don't look that great but I

01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:24.400
think they look better than GED Wings aren't that great but they're pretty

01:05:22.680 --> 01:05:30.880
good and they look really good they look really good UV UV in my system is like

01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:30.880
awesome

01:05:32.160 --> 01:05:39.119
yeah uh okay there was someone I promised to do a uh there was someone I

01:05:37.359 --> 01:05:45.359
promised to do a shout out to this week and I I gotta go I gotta go

01:05:42.680 --> 01:05:50.319
check uh I don't know what to discuss I don't have any topic Twitter QA Twitter

01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:52.760
Q&A I forget how to do this right ah

01:05:50.319 --> 01:05:57.039
noobs can play Shout Out shout out to noobs can playay peace bro

01:05:58.520 --> 01:06:05.160
why did you get a no record found um uh

01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:08.480
uh we're not going about we're not going to talk about problems with the search

01:06:06.520 --> 01:06:14.160
function on nx's website uh have you heard about lus has

01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:20.880
you have you heard about Vortex based video no no I've never heard of this

01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:25.720
either I use my iPhone Notes pad Notes app all the time that's one thing I do

01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:27.760
have a problem with is the notes app on

01:06:25.720 --> 01:06:30.319
iOS products is kind of awesome and I have a lot of problems with the one on

01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.880
my Android but then like I said I downloaded a new one which is an awesome

01:06:32.160 --> 01:06:40.720
thing about Android and then it totally solved the problem okay we have another

01:06:36.839 --> 01:06:43.319
Samsung topic to discuss the Evolution

01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:48.079
Kit you mentioned this but didn't go into detail so this is this is some CES

01:06:45.640 --> 01:06:52.000
News they first unveiled this last year so the Evolution Kit get

01:06:53.240 --> 01:07:01.559
this this face should give you some idea how stupid I think this is I was already

01:06:58.279 --> 01:07:05.200
kind of like uh the Evolution Kit allows

01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:09.119
you to take your 2012 model Smart TV and

01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:12.160
by adding a pack to the back of it to

01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:15.319
meet the ongoing you know memory and

01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:18.200
processing and power requirements of

01:07:15.319 --> 01:07:24.400
smart TVs and the media and everything that's happening you can upgrade your

01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:27.520
2012 Smart TV to the 2013 version by

01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.520
putting this pack on the back

01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:37.359
back I feel like if I was in the store I would buy it just so you would go

01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:40.119
away just go away so you get the latest

01:07:37.359 --> 01:07:43.799
Suite of applications you get um why do you need a pack for

01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:47.480
applications well this is the first question that I was sort of thinking oh

01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:51.000
okay continue sorry well I guess actually no my first question is why do

01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:54.880
you need a smart TV at all why don't you buy a pivos AOS and hook it up to your

01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:59.760
TV and then you'll get firmware updates for free 100% And I've heard a lot of

01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:02.520
pro problems with the gestures tons of problems with the gestur do you remember

01:08:00.720 --> 01:08:07.319
that Samsung all-in one that we had that we did an unboxing of yeah I tried to

01:08:04.640 --> 01:08:11.720
demo the gesture thing I didn't get a single bit of usable footage it just

01:08:08.720 --> 01:08:14.000
doesn't work and the gestures on the TV

01:08:11.720 --> 01:08:17.880
at the keynote at the Samsung Canada thing the guy on stage was trying to

01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:22.480
demo it and it didn't work at all gestures are going to be incredible when

01:08:20.799 --> 01:08:26.600
they work really well but we're not there yet here's the thing to actually

01:08:24.719 --> 01:08:33.000
build in the hardware that would be required to properly map the human body

01:08:30.120 --> 01:08:36.640
in any kind of remotely reasonable real time and I'm not talking connect with

01:08:35.040 --> 01:08:40.920
like you know a half second delayer okay it's not a half second but with it with

01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:44.000
any kind of leg or any kind of ambiguity as to what you're doing for it to

01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:48.199
actually work perfectly so that it can recognize you whether you're standing

01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:49.759
like this or whether you're like you

01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:54.799
know on the couch like this the I mean it would basically need

01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:58.400
a computer in it and like there's a lot of little companies and some bigger

01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:02.199
companies making some really interesting hand gester M uh programs for computer

01:09:00.839 --> 01:09:06.000
and stuff but there's still tons of problems with them tons of problems I

01:09:03.839 --> 01:09:11.120
mean the closest I think will be is like a glove have you seen yeah have you seen

01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:13.600
that like weird crazy multicolored glove uh no I haven't seen that I can't

01:09:12.440 --> 01:09:17.400
remember what they're called but it it looks like you like spilled a whole bunch of different colored paints on a

01:09:15.759 --> 01:09:20.920
glove okay and they wear them and the gestures you can do with them are

01:09:18.759 --> 01:09:26.359
insanely accurate okay see something like that could work and guys please for

01:09:22.719 --> 01:09:29.000
the love of peanuts um stop asking us if

01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:35.600
we have heard about the leap motion yes we have heard about the leap motion yes

01:09:31.199 --> 01:09:38.120
it's cool it is not out yet I cannot

01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:42.080
unbox it yet I have been in touch with them we're going to arrange to get

01:09:39.759 --> 01:09:46.640
something going once they actually have units that they can ship but uh yeah I'm

01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:51.080
super excited about it I think this could be Bridging the Gap between the

01:09:49.440 --> 01:09:54.679
touchscreen interface and the totally not touchcreen you know for those folks

01:09:53.120 --> 01:09:58.040
who don't want to touch their screen for folks who are too far away from their

01:09:56.560 --> 01:10:02.000
monitor and this is uncomfortable they could still come up and go like this um

01:10:00.280 --> 01:10:09.520
if it works then like awesome it should be really cool otherwise you know we'll

01:10:05.120 --> 01:10:09.520
all forget about it at some point

01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:17.360
uh apparently S node is really good on Note 2 because of S Pen support that's

01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:21.560
kind of cool to hear but doesn't help all the incredible amount of S3 owners

01:10:19.679 --> 01:10:27.120
of which by the way is more than any other smartphone

01:10:23.440 --> 01:10:28.800
ever bam so like that's awesome and I'm

01:10:27.120 --> 01:10:33.000
happy it works good for you and Spen is pretty cool but like there's a billion

01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:36.280
of us maybe more than that I was trying to just pick a really big number that

01:10:35.120 --> 01:10:41.880
that's a good idea do you think it's the transparent OLED display they were showing a while back no cuz if they

01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:46.880
they've shown it before I kind of doubt it yeah because they're talking about

01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:48.640
like whole new design and like shape of

01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:53.520
the TV and stuff so unless they took that and shaped it

01:10:50.280 --> 01:10:57.239
differently um I am building an x79 rig

01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:59.760
now and Slick runs a z77 rig now so I

01:10:57.239 --> 01:11:04.000
guess both of us will be waiting for the next chipet before we make any

01:11:01.719 --> 01:11:09.280
upgrades I use Blue-ray for backing up my Blu-ray movies no you should use a

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hard drive for backing up your Blu-ray

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movies okay whoa that's a lot of sorry

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if you tweet that many times I'm going to have to skip yes we are going to have

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an x40 and x60 and a review comparison and conclusion we haven't had time we're

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going to use the standardized test bench I'm actually going to have to do some

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fancy dremeling to make the x60 fit in it but that's okay we're going to do it

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um so yeah we will do that but it'll be once we get back from CES Yin Yik I am

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very sorry if I'm pronouncing your name wrong um

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J I get it you're GNA do it again when I start

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talking at you okay so I don't know probably not

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for an incredibly long time but if you're interested in that kind of stuff Google up Oculus Rift that's the closest

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thinging be getting in the near future they're awesome look it

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up you can pre-order them what are you

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talking about which which one easily

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dies sorry you those are totally totally

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different things in every possible way no I wouldn't really recommend a GT 640

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anything under a hundred bucks for a graphics card is not a good value and I

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don't mean it's not cheap it is cheap but it's not a good value because value

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is I I think of in terms of frames per second per dollar I actually had someone

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giving me a really hard time on uh on Twitter because I wouldn't recommend a

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GT uh or a GTX uh 650 to someone and I

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was like GTX 650 is not a good value I

01:12:40.960 --> 01:12:46.679
said and they're like oh lus not everyone you know blah blah blah can get

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the best card and you guys are so focused on GTX 660 Ti and 670 like well

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no actually it's you can get a 650 TI

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but the difference in performance between a 650 and a 650 TI is like this

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and the difference in price is like this value is FPS per dollars not just

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dollars so a 640 is never a good value

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because it costs like 80% of what something way better costs but it'll

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perform like half as well so it's a terrible terrible value never buy entry

01:13:18.840 --> 01:13:25.800
level video cards you got to look into the price for performance curves and

01:13:23.400 --> 01:13:31.840
like if you're buying like a a card like that it's going to be obsolete so quick

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yeah do you know where I can buy modded cases I don't know no I mod them

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myself buy a Dremel and some like panels from Home

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Depot or wherever you buy okay Home Depot stuff well I think that wraps it

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up for now thank you guys for tuning in to our shortened live stream hopefully

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two weeks from now when we do the next live stream you guys will be able to um

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tune on time because we'll be like ready

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and I'm sure we'll have tons more topics it's been kind of dead lately because

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everyone's just kind of Calm before the storming because of CES so so we're

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going to have way way too much stuff to talk about yeah instead of just like

01:14:09.719 --> 01:14:15.199
might have to do like a deluxe like longer live stream or something maybe

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we'll talk about it in the uh in the cool down from CES we'll plan like one

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like a debriefing maybe we do like a three or five hour live stream or

01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:27.360
something like that as long as we get a huge list of comments I mean uh topics

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and people are willing to come around I'm cool with it yeah okay all right

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good night guys thanks for tuning in