WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:08.000 this is a gaming PC and I'm not talking about the slow trickle of afterthought 00:00:05.520 --> 00:00:13.120 releases that make PC ports look good by comparison thanks to Apple's new game 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:18.400 porting toolkit not only will the process of porting games to Mac be much 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:25.720 simpler for developers but Gamers can play PC games today right now on Apple 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:30.960 silicon Max who' have thought it after all these years of giving zero cares 00:00:28.439 --> 00:00:35.320 whatsoever about gamers is Apple finally bringing the fight to Microsoft and 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:40.840 gaming is it any good am I about to make the switch to talking about our sponsor 00:00:38.120 --> 00:00:45.200 build Redux is building a PC not in your wheelhouse no problem let the experts at 00:00:43.239 --> 00:00:49.079 build Redux help you out just pick the parts and they'll do all the hard work 00:00:47.239 --> 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the point is we're 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:37.759 going to try TR some games sear puny 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:40.079 sear puny yeah cyber Punk hey hey who 00:01:37.759 --> 00:01:45.320 okay I know you did most of the work before I came here and obviously it's 00:01:42.320 --> 00:01:47.719 not that easy but like it's working it 00:01:45.320 --> 00:01:52.719 would have been more easy if the uh the guey method worked but uh it should be B 00:01:50.399 --> 00:01:58.039 much easier in the future instructions say adjust graphic settings and 00:01:55.280 --> 00:02:02.240 resolution and see what happens to frame rate I see looks like right now we're at 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:05.600 about 20 let's go to something more reasonable medium is this likely to 00:02:04.479 --> 00:02:09.560 actually complete or are you just trolling me well I mean there's only one 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:13.280 way to find out I mean if you hit the space bar it might proceed one way to 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:22.239 find out is to ask you if you're just trolling me oh it's running uh 11 FPS uh 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:26.959 it does not look great well I mean it looks okay as long as you only look at 00:02:24.160 --> 00:02:31.319 like still frames uhhuh yeah the still frames don't look great well we're at 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:38.959 720p you could boost the resolution I uh I mean I 00:02:35.160 --> 00:02:41.159 could wait it's not running any worse 00:02:38.959 --> 00:02:45.879 the truth is I'm kind of speechless right now it's not perfect the 00:02:42.760 --> 00:02:48.440 performance obviously sucks and at times 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:52.760 steam Andor the game might crash or become unresponsive but this is still 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:57.720 amazing and there are workarounds if you do experience a crash just open the 00:02:54.959 --> 00:03:02.680 activity monitor search for wine select all processes then click the arrows in 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:08.200 the top right and click force quit wait a second wine how does a piece of Linux 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:13.000 software that is not an emulator figure into all of this here's the thing game 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:17.840 porting toolkit is essentially a distribution of code Weaver's crossover 00:03:15.239 --> 00:03:22.680 flavor of wine with what appears to be the dxvk translation layer for DirectX 9 00:03:20.519 --> 00:03:28.360 through 111 and then Apple's own Homespun d3d metal translation wrapper 00:03:25.519 --> 00:03:33.480 for directx12 which isn't without controversy thing is apple has a history 00:03:31.239 --> 00:03:39.200 of using open-source tools to enrich their own proprietary Solutions like 00:03:36.400 --> 00:03:43.840 cups for printing and the khtml browser engine that became Safari's web kit and 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:49.159 ultimately Chrome and like these other situations game porting toolkit is 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:53.239 perfectly legal but is understandably rubbing some members of the open source 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:57.560 Community the wrong way given both Apple's restrictive licensing agreement 00:03:55.040 --> 00:04:03.680 for the toolkit and their historically narrow contributions back to open source 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:06.360 software now my notes Here only say move 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:11.959 on at your discretion of the nine games installed five of them work correct okay 00:04:09.480 --> 00:04:17.680 I want to play Civ a fine how about Hollow 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:19.280 name let's go Hollow night what are the 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:25.160 controls for this game on a keyboard and mouse I truthfully have no idea holy 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:30.360 crap this is running at 60 FPS and actually 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:33.720 feels I mean I suck but but other than 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:35.160 that it feels fine input lag hard to say 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:39.039 even though this is a bit of a Twitchy game I find it kind of forgiving in 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:43.199 terms of input leg I didn't have trouble playing it on the Logitech g-cloud for 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:47.600 example it seems pretty good I would say it seems pretty darn good uh I mean it 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:52.199 seems like from the sound to what I'm seeing on screen it seems pretty decent 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:57.160 like maybe there's a little bit but it's definitely usable compatibility is a 00:04:54.840 --> 00:05:01.840 mixed bag then which makes sense given the similarity to valve's proton 00:04:58.919 --> 00:05:05.880 compatibility for Linux and also makes sense considering the extra step that's 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:11.440 going on here of running through the Rosetta translation layer which handles 00:05:07.919 --> 00:05:13.919 running x86 code on Apple silicon and 00:05:11.440 --> 00:05:17.440 unlike proton very few support packages are installed by default which can make 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:22.080 things problematic if you're trying to use it like proton it's also worth 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:26.759 noting that while d3d metal is closed Source crossover is gaining support for 00:05:24.199 --> 00:05:32.080 direct X12 this year too so game porting toolkit might not be the only option for 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:37.960 gamers on Mac though of course it's not really intended to be let's go F1 let's 00:05:36.400 --> 00:05:42.759 go a your version of Windows is older than 00:05:40.759 --> 00:05:48.240 the minimum version required yes I wish to continue oh we're sorry but you can't 00:05:45.960 --> 00:05:51.400 there is no fraking way that Halo infinite runs I mean you're not 00:05:50.039 --> 00:05:55.000 currently running Halo infinite you're running I'm not running Halo infinite 00:05:53.160 --> 00:06:00.000 cuz I don't think that's going to run I'm trying to find ones that will run 00:05:57.080 --> 00:06:07.240 hey I think I found one the last total war game I played was Rome Total War the 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:10.639 remake or the original the original hey 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:15.080 this is running uh oh my God oh my God 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:17.319 okay let's go Gamers oh crap well I suck 00:06:15.080 --> 00:06:21.759 this overlay in the corner here shows us how much performance we're leaving on 00:06:18.840 --> 00:06:28.039 the table due to translation layers and not emulation it's a lot we're using 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:32.599 about 20% of our GPU right now and apple knows that but that's okay because the 00:06:30.520 --> 00:06:37.240 general idea behind this tool and apple was very clear about it is that a 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:42.479 developer using a common framework like Unity or Unreal Engine can simply 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:46.960 compile a Mac version of their software without having to rewrite the graphics 00:06:44.880 --> 00:06:52.360 audio or input routines that they've already written for Windows they're not 00:06:49.280 --> 00:06:56.800 supposed to just use it like this and 00:06:52.360 --> 00:06:58.879 all of that sounds great but as we know 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:03.000 it's not always that simple in the real world before we talk about that though 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:07.919 let's discuss the advantages of this approach with the biggest one being the 00:07:05.520 --> 00:07:13.960 it just works Simplicity but unfortunately that's about it I mean in 00:07:11.039 --> 00:07:18.440 theory it does make it easier to create a native version of your game as well 00:07:16.520 --> 00:07:22.960 but if the way things are going on Linux is anything to go by the translation 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:27.400 layer forever approach is the more likely outcome so then let's talk about 00:07:25.280 --> 00:07:32.360 the drawbacks of that the first is that performance should in theory be pretty 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:37.360 close to proton on Linux so usually worse than Windows though sometimes 00:07:34.520 --> 00:07:41.520 equal or even better and the second is that if developers are not motivated to 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:48.199 create true native ports this compatibility and performance is always 00:07:44.440 --> 00:07:50.800 going to be behind and by more than non- 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:57.000 gamer Apple Executives probably realize the thing is even a compatible game 00:07:54.159 --> 00:08:01.560 might have dependencies that are not created by the developer like say for 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:07.240 examp example anti-che the developers of which have very little incentive to Port 00:08:03.840 --> 00:08:09.360 their software to these Rando not 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:14.759 properly supported platforms let's see if we can find one like that like say 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:18.360 Halo infinite yeah okay that didn't take long see you later buddy I mean I don't 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:21.879 actually know that that's because of anti-che but it almost certainly isn't 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:26.120 helping but you told me there was an anti-che one that you did manage to get 00:08:23.840 --> 00:08:30.800 working and I assume it's this because this is all that's left yes Elden ring 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:36.000 is the only one that I got to work with antiche so the idea behind it though is 00:08:33.479 --> 00:08:40.159 that instead of doing anything special what you do is you rename the anti chees 00:08:37.760 --> 00:08:43.560 executable because it starts up and then scans things and then it launches the 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:50.720 game you rename that executable then you rename the game's executable to that executable name so then steam just 00:08:47.839 --> 00:08:54.839 launches the game the problem is that from there you don't have any online 00:08:53.040 --> 00:08:59.640 support whatsoever does that matter in Elden ring I mean depends on how you 00:08:57.160 --> 00:09:02.120 play the game ring you need online you do there's actually quite a bit of 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:06.920 multiplayer in ring or you could just not do that wow oh wait oh okay no no 00:09:04.880 --> 00:09:11.200 that worked I swear the first time I whacked one of those pots there was a 00:09:08.760 --> 00:09:14.320 delayed reaction for it to crumble it might have been Shader compilation that 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:20.519 makes sense okay that wasn't on me I had that 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:26.640 lined up I swear it do you see that I can't really see 00:09:23.160 --> 00:09:28.640 much just no don't lie you saw that from 00:09:26.640 --> 00:09:36.279 this angle all I see is just a bunch of gray blob no I editor help me out 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:38.079 here I was lined up with the big one I 00:09:36.279 --> 00:09:44.480 have no idea what you're talking about oh hey did you notice the FPS row no it 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:51.760 was at like 15 now it's like 37 what shut up that can't be running at 37 FPS 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:53.880 ooh no way Elden Ring's actually running 00:09:51.760 --> 00:10:00.079 kind of okay I guess it needed to warm up the shaders 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:03.519 interesting 30 FPS Elden ring 00:10:00.079 --> 00:10:06.640 I mean at what resolution though 1080p 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:09.440 maximum qual and we got those results 00:10:06.640 --> 00:10:14.240 with the GPU at 20% and before even hydrating with this water bottle from 00:10:11.040 --> 00:10:16.320 LTT Store.com it's empty whatever 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:21.920 doesn't matter the point is it's a very mixed bag and not everyone wants to just 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:27.120 buy and try random games and there's no proton DB for Mac yet but what there is 00:10:24.760 --> 00:10:31.320 is a community curated Google sheet that is full of lots of interesting nuggets 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:36.000 here are some interesting ones Halo infinite crashed on the crossover wine 00:10:33.760 --> 00:10:41.079 that is used in GPT and I don't mean chat GPT I mean game porting tool kit 00:10:38.160 --> 00:10:45.440 but it works with proton and given its anti-che and Microsoft account 00:10:43.079 --> 00:10:49.519 dependencies I suspect that that's only the case because valve had to do some 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:53.720 special sauce to get that working and I have to say I wonder if Apple will be 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:57.880 willing to put in the work probably not given that their stated purpose is for 00:10:55.760 --> 00:11:04.000 developers to be the one to do the work how optimistic more on that later also 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:08.560 any game that requires AVX or avx2 instructions will fail Apple silicon 00:11:06.760 --> 00:11:12.760 doesn't support it and neither does their Rosetta translation layer vsync 00:11:11.079 --> 00:11:16.839 also appears to be enforced by the compositor regardless of the in-game 00:11:14.600 --> 00:11:21.079 settings so you will only ever get your displays refresh rate in FPS also 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:26.079 getting it to work is a pain involving terminal commands and the x86 version of 00:11:23.399 --> 00:11:29.959 Homebrew Isaac maritz the person who posted the infamous video of running 00:11:27.639 --> 00:11:33.680 cyberpunk on a Mac modified his whiskey app to support the game porting toolkit 00:11:31.959 --> 00:11:36.959 but the most recent version as of us recording this doesn't work though I 00:11:35.560 --> 00:11:40.760 suspect by the time we released this video it will be patched so keep an eye 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:44.760 on that back to that developer conversation though Apple's going to 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:49.760 have to support and promote this tool heavily to overcome their reputation 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:51.560 among game developers they have a long 00:11:49.760 --> 00:11:55.959 history of ignoring the gaming industry dating back to Steve Jobs according to 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:59.480 programming Legend John carac Gabe new of valve claimed that Apple kept coming 00:11:58.079 --> 00:12:04.320 to them talking about supporting in games but just nothing would ever come 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:08.519 of it and so far no major developers that I could find have publicly 00:12:05.920 --> 00:12:13.079 expressed support besides hideio kajima who Apple had present during their WWDC 00:12:10.920 --> 00:12:17.720 2023 keynote where the game porting toolkit was announced some high-profile 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:22.680 releases have been coming to Mac recently like Resident Evil Village and 00:12:20.079 --> 00:12:26.519 no man's sky and there are some mac native games in fact we've got a couple 00:12:24.680 --> 00:12:30.760 of them installed so I guess the question that this raises now is if all 00:12:28.680 --> 00:12:35.040 went according to plan what kind of performance improvements might we see we 00:12:32.920 --> 00:12:39.040 don't get an FPS counter but I'm expecting the performance to be markedly 00:12:37.760 --> 00:12:44.160 better than when we were running with the translation layer and it looks like 00:12:41.760 --> 00:12:50.000 weird camera bug aside it looks like it's a lot smoother the performance is 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:54.600 way better like even if it's just 60 versus 60 the frame pacing is a lot 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:59.839 better right here you can tell much better and the latency is markedly 00:12:57.639 --> 00:13:03.519 better as well um okay I'm going to win this fight this time though oh come on 00:13:01.680 --> 00:13:06.720 we have more stuff to shoot today uh that's true okay I don't have time to 00:13:05.079 --> 00:13:12.160 win this fight but I do have time to talk about the different kinds of native 00:13:09.040 --> 00:13:14.920 games that run on macOS Total War is 00:13:12.160 --> 00:13:19.959 running on ARM but uses Rosetta for some of the multiplayer whereas shadow of the 00:13:16.680 --> 00:13:22.560 Tomb Raider actually uses Rosetta for 00:13:19.959 --> 00:13:27.199 the port so from a CPU standpoint it's actually using the same tools that is 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:32.279 Rosetta as the game porting toolkit the difference then would be 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:37.320 basically this is running bare metal ha haha using the metal API whereas the 00:13:35.800 --> 00:13:41.440 game porting toolkit version would be using d3d metal the translation layer so 00:13:39.800 --> 00:13:45.639 that gives us some idea of how much we're losing to the translation layer 00:13:44.199 --> 00:13:49.839 yeah it's a lot worse than running on metal API but that shouldn't matter 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:53.920 because if Apple can stop paying lip service to gaming and actually throw 00:13:52.040 --> 00:13:58.720 their hat into the ring the game porting toolkit could be a game changer in the 00:13:57.040 --> 00:14:04.560 way that they're presenting it as it is right now now though it's a curiosity at 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:09.320 best for end users and time will tell if this is actually a useful tool that will 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:14.360 motivate developers to Port their games natively which is yeah going to be 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