WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:04.733 - These key caps, then it just check it out. (key popping) Whoa, (fire roaring) that actually hit Jono. 00:00:04.733 --> 00:00:08.410 (people laughs) That's insane. Ergo keyboards can be kind of weird 00:00:08.410 --> 00:00:12.340 and inaccessible sometimes, but these ones seem to not be that. 00:00:12.340 --> 00:00:15.890 It looks like they're not that ugly and they don't look that hard to learn how to use. 00:00:15.890 --> 00:00:19.020 I'm particularly interested in this one. I got two here. 00:00:19.020 --> 00:00:23.351 These are both from Cloudnine. One of them is a 10 key lists and way more compact. 00:00:23.351 --> 00:00:28.350 The other one you can't really see in the picture, but it's way wider and it has a number pad 00:00:28.350 --> 00:00:32.281 and everything like a full keyboard, which you almost never get on Ergo boards. 00:00:32.281 --> 00:00:36.700 So I'm excited to look at that one. That's check them both out, starting with that one. 00:00:36.700 --> 00:00:40.900 Now don't be confused by the Cloudnine name and logo that looks almost exactly 00:00:40.900 --> 00:00:43.980 like the Cloud9 gaming team logo. 00:00:43.980 --> 00:00:49.240 Almost exactly. There's no affiliation as far as I know. I thought this keyboard would be wider than this boxes, 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:53.000 so although this place was probably stacked in the boxes. 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:57.600 Yep, I got one module here, it's pretty heavy and it looks 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.170 like pretty high quality injection molded plastic. 00:01:01.170 --> 00:01:05.900 It's like it's not really printed in and cropped here. 00:01:05.900 --> 00:01:11.120 USB-C interface there. That's probably going to connect it to the other module, 00:01:11.120 --> 00:01:17.000 but yeah, you can already see, it's got the four navigation keys, number pad. 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:21.420 I believe these are using browse. Yeah, cool. Normal arrow keys 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:25.180 and then it sweeps up into this tilted area, 00:01:25.180 --> 00:01:28.360 tented area so that you're reducing pronation. 00:01:28.360 --> 00:01:32.660 Like you don't want your ARM to be flat like that. It scissors your radius and all the bones in your ARM 00:01:32.660 --> 00:01:36.313 and pinches tissue, which can cause RSIs. 00:01:36.313 --> 00:01:40.290 It's probably the reason you're interested in an Ergo board to begin with. 00:01:40.290 --> 00:01:43.390 So that's cool. I don't know if you can adjust that tilt level. 00:01:43.390 --> 00:01:46.530 I think it's just us a set seven degrees. 00:01:46.530 --> 00:01:49.920 And then, you know what, it's just like kind of your posture. 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.330 The best thing to do a lot of the time is just to be changing it all the time. 00:01:53.330 --> 00:01:57.390 So if your hand is going to be going from this to this and then back 00:01:57.390 --> 00:02:00.800 that's probably better than just being in a static position, regardless of that position. 00:02:00.800 --> 00:02:04.670 You can see that there's probably some RGB action on here, like an under glow. 00:02:04.670 --> 00:02:10.570 So we're gonna have to get this powered on and plugged in eventually. There is, you can see it's a split keyboard, 00:02:10.570 --> 00:02:15.950 but it does fit together. Just friction, I don't think there's magnets. 00:02:15.950 --> 00:02:19.770 Oh yeah, it does kind of snap. This is kind of glassy, glossy, 00:02:19.770 --> 00:02:24.803 middle section Isn't flawless. It's got like some dimples or kind of bumps in it. 00:02:24.803 --> 00:02:28.650 I don't really love that. Then of course there's this 00:02:28.650 --> 00:02:32.290 dial, which is pretty cool. It clicks. 00:02:32.290 --> 00:02:36.370 See how it rocks. That's not awesome and that could be useful as far as I understand it 00:02:36.370 --> 00:02:40.070 you can reprogram it so you could use it to scroll a web page 00:02:40.070 --> 00:02:45.220 which is dope because then you don't actually have to take your hand off the keyboard, which I hate doing. 00:02:45.220 --> 00:02:50.380 You wanna keep your hands on the keyboard as much as possible and so if I can scroll like that, that's dope. 00:02:50.380 --> 00:02:55.530 I don't have to use page up and down or the arrow keys. I think I have more control or fidelity with this. 00:02:55.530 --> 00:02:59.450 So that'd be cool. You can also use it. You can revamp it apparently for games 00:02:59.450 --> 00:03:02.770 and for media like volume. So I have to check that out that little bit. 00:03:02.770 --> 00:03:07.390 There's no mention of software on the website. So I don't know exactly how we're going to do these things. 00:03:07.390 --> 00:03:10.893 It looks like there's some macro keys on the side here. It's nice. 00:03:10.893 --> 00:03:15.900 Going back to what I said about being accessible, a normal staggered party layout. 00:03:15.900 --> 00:03:20.220 Some Ergonomic keyboards like the one I use at my desk have an Ergodox linear layout. 00:03:20.220 --> 00:03:24.780 The keys are just straight up and down and like in columns rather than being diagonal like this, 00:03:24.780 --> 00:03:28.940 which is a typical. Most keyboards are like this, staggered. 00:03:28.940 --> 00:03:32.370 So that's what I'm saying. It's not gonna take a big learning curve 00:03:32.370 --> 00:03:35.370 to get used to this one. Hold on, I just wanna see what else is in here. 00:03:35.370 --> 00:03:40.290 Of course there's just... Oh, there's a little cable, I guess that's for joining the two modules 00:03:40.290 --> 00:03:44.890 and there's a long cable. That's gotta be for charging or connecting the PC. 00:03:44.890 --> 00:03:47.890 Is this thing not wireless? The deuce, oh, this is cool. 00:03:47.890 --> 00:03:52.189 It's an angled cord actually has a little 45 on there. That is just a nice touch. 00:03:52.189 --> 00:03:56.120 They didn't have to do that. Cool, I like that. This is pretty slim. 00:03:56.120 --> 00:04:00.940 That's far enough for, I think for most people to spread it about this wide, 00:04:00.940 --> 00:04:06.300 that's gonna make it pretty even for your shoulders. You could even put your mouse in here if you want. 00:04:06.300 --> 00:04:09.480 And that might actually honestly, with how wide this thing is 00:04:09.480 --> 00:04:13.600 when it's spread apart like this look how far your mouse would be. Can you even see that? 00:04:13.600 --> 00:04:17.400 I'm way over here at this point. So if you are a gamer and you're bored, 00:04:17.400 --> 00:04:21.670 you just don't really need the number pad and stuff. You probably want to look to get into TKL out, 00:04:21.670 --> 00:04:24.730 which I will unbox a second. Wait, what? 00:04:24.730 --> 00:04:29.430 No, the tether cord plugs are directional. Both plugs must angle inwards. 00:04:29.430 --> 00:04:32.650 You actually have to do it that way. What do they mean? 00:04:32.650 --> 00:04:35.880 Must, like it just won't work. I'm gonna test that. 00:04:35.880 --> 00:04:40.010 Oh, you can actually change the dial mode. 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This thing's lit up. 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:23.470 The keys are lit up. I know it has some programmed patterns 00:05:23.470 --> 00:05:26.390 but I'm gonna have to look at this to find out how to control them. 00:05:27.270 --> 00:05:30.280 Red. Can I make a breathe or something though? 00:05:30.280 --> 00:05:34.380 I might not just want to static color. I don't know if the side is RGB. 00:05:34.380 --> 00:05:38.830 Is there a rainbow one? Wait, here we go. It's breathing. It's rainbow, set. 00:05:38.830 --> 00:05:44.350 And that is independent from the keys. That's kind of cool. Do you want to customize the individual key back lighting, 00:05:44.350 --> 00:05:48.370 program macros and more? You can do it all with the PC app. 00:05:48.370 --> 00:05:52.483 Yes, there is an app. Let's go get it. This software is not commonly downloaded. 00:05:52.483 --> 00:05:56.320 Cloudnine if you give me a virus. Man, is this just an edge thing? 00:05:56.320 --> 00:06:00.870 'Cause it takes a long time to download crap This is really annoying. So there's no devices connected 00:06:00.870 --> 00:06:05.100 - [Man] Was it because of the cable? - 'Cause this is backwards and this is not backwards. 00:06:05.100 --> 00:06:08.850 This is how it shows it in the picture. But I'll try it. 00:06:08.850 --> 00:06:12.330 No, it's not a cable issue. Okay, now I'm gonna plug in my other keyboard 00:06:12.330 --> 00:06:16.030 and see if that works. So the right module you can see is like half the size. 00:06:16.030 --> 00:06:20.410 This one has a wrist rest kind of integrated into it. Does that come off? 00:06:20.410 --> 00:06:24.905 It feels like Velcro. It's Velcro, comes with the key cap puller. 00:06:24.905 --> 00:06:28.760 Here's my cables. Okay, well I think we can pretty much find out 00:06:28.760 --> 00:06:34.270 everything I wanted to find out about this board with this board. I guess some percentage of customers will have 00:06:34.270 --> 00:06:39.980 an issue like that. Hopefully not many. Okay, you can actually remap everything graphically in here. 00:06:39.980 --> 00:06:43.130 I just made my S key into 8 key. That's not cool. 00:06:43.130 --> 00:06:47.590 You can't use your keyboard without that, you have to actually just use your mouse. Yep, the lighting has its own tab 00:06:47.590 --> 00:06:53.810 and okay, here's all the programmed patterns, 00:06:53.810 --> 00:06:57.323 but it said I can do per key. So how do I do that? Eew yellow. 00:06:57.323 --> 00:07:00.750 Eew, you who chooses yellow in almost anything? 00:07:00.750 --> 00:07:04.400 Okay, there's a, there's a speed ramp here for how fast you want the pattern to go. 00:07:04.400 --> 00:07:08.700 You can change the brightness of the pattern. I don't see this per key thing, 00:07:08.700 --> 00:07:12.432 but I don't care. I wouldn't use that anyway. (paper squawks) 00:07:12.432 --> 00:07:17.250 Right now let's look at this wheel. (keyboard wheel clicking) Oh, that's not a good sound on this one. 00:07:17.250 --> 00:07:21.570 So the color that it shows actually indicates what mode it's on. 00:07:21.570 --> 00:07:25.270 It says when it's white, it's volume up and down and the clicking would mute it. 00:07:25.270 --> 00:07:29.290 When it's red, you can switch applications like I guess that would be like Alt tab, 00:07:29.290 --> 00:07:32.600 and then you select the application by clicking. That seems useful. 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:38.090 Roll up or down when it's green and when it's blue, it's your, oh, it's just the brightness of the keyboard. 00:07:38.090 --> 00:07:42.050 And then you can click it to change your keyword color. That's okay. I probably wouldn't use that, 00:07:42.050 --> 00:07:45.800 but I'd use it sometimes. Okay, we've got red. Whoa, there it is. 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:49.096 It is Alt tab. Oh my God, you guys, 00:07:49.096 --> 00:07:52.850 this is so counterintuitive. You scroll clockwise, 00:07:52.850 --> 00:07:57.200 but it goes to the right or to the left. It's going left as I... 00:07:57.200 --> 00:08:01.760 That is backwards to me. Am I the only one? I think I'd get used to this counterclockwise thing, 00:08:01.760 --> 00:08:05.210 but it's just stupid. Horizontal scrolls for use. So if you don't have that in your mouse, 00:08:05.210 --> 00:08:09.040 I would use that a lot on here. If you're using spreadsheets or something like Trello, 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:13.610 that's really wide. I would probably use that a lot. I personally prefer Ergonomic keywords 00:08:13.610 --> 00:08:17.670 that have thumb clusters. I like to use those a lot, but as I said, that's less accessible. 00:08:17.670 --> 00:08:20.980 This is more like normal. I think the ten keys, this is a newer product. 00:08:20.980 --> 00:08:25.170 The box is a little sexier. Now, if I go to blue, that's vertical scroll. 00:08:25.170 --> 00:08:28.810 I'm hoping that's going to be weapons change. Okay, so here I am in CS code 00:08:28.810 --> 00:08:31.876 the Mouse Scroll Wheel changes weapons. 00:08:31.876 --> 00:08:35.553 Oh yeah, look at that. It does work. It's imprecise. 00:08:35.553 --> 00:08:39.770 You probably end and sanctify with your wast fingers 00:08:39.770 --> 00:08:43.800 than the number keys, but if I had larger hands, I might 00:08:43.800 --> 00:08:47.500 and I forgot really good at touching that knob. I like the extra versatility. 00:08:47.500 --> 00:08:51.210 You could pretty much just have it split like this until your gaming and then you can go like that 00:08:51.210 --> 00:08:55.180 or even just get this out of the way. Wow, do you hate doing Ctrl + A? 00:08:55.180 --> 00:09:00.440 Well, you've got a select Alt button. Oh, and this one actually has some legs on it too. 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:04.346 That's nice. So what you're doing there, usually Ergo keyboard, 00:09:04.346 --> 00:09:07.990 you're expecting to see these legs on the top and they make them tilt this way, 00:09:07.990 --> 00:09:13.390 but that's actually bad because you're extending, this is called extension, this will be flection. 00:09:13.390 --> 00:09:17.370 When you extend that's bad for your wrist. This actually puts it into flection 00:09:17.370 --> 00:09:21.400 by lifting up this side of it, which is more Ergonomic. So, I think these are good keyboards. 00:09:21.400 --> 00:09:25.170 I think they're a good option for Ergonomic keyboards. They've got lots of features. They're not that expensive. 00:09:25.170 --> 00:09:29.490 Some Ergo Keyboards are like $400. I like these. I like the big one with the number pad. 00:09:29.490 --> 00:09:33.420 You don't see that often on an Ergo keyboard. I don't know where I'm going to put my mouse. If I don't have a that keyboard 00:09:33.420 --> 00:09:36.483 but these are cool. They're worth looking at. If you like this video, 00:09:36.483 --> 00:09:40.140 check out some of our other keyboard and button, maybe check out one with Plouffe. He just, you know, 00:09:40.140 --> 00:09:41.440 he has a calming presence.