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ShortCircuit where we are the focal

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bathys or if you are French the focal

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batis which is actually how they're pronounced because they are a French

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company known for making all sorts of wonderful expansive audio equipment and

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this is their first attempt at making it

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big in the truly Wireless space and they've come in with the batis what is

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that well it was named after the bathosphere which is a predecessor to

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the submarine that basically just went down and up a lot of uh people died in

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it a lot of French people too because they were pretty popular lots of scientists there and it's named after

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the bathosphere because they believe that it represents silence and being cut

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off from the world because these are noise canceling headphones with Hi-Fi

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sound and French design take a look at the boxy cat here Home Collection your

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maturities collection and professional collection cool don't know what those

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mean features finally active noise canceling SBC AAC Qualcomm

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aptx and aptx adaptive that's a little misleading SBC is the default Bluetooth

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codec for any sort of audio and aptx adaptive is backwards compatible with

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app decks so really it just has sp8 and

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SPC is not another feature it just has AAC and Qualcomm aptx we don't have ldac

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which is a great Hi-Fi proprietary audio codec and apparently they didn't want to

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pay Sony the licensing money just too bad one thing interesting about these

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headphones is that they have a USB DAC included a DAC is a digital analog

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converter which takes a digital signal like the one from your USBC port or your

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computer and converts it into an analog signal so that it can be played through

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speakers that bump back and forth they claim 30 hours of battery life and

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speaker drivers hand crafted in France opening the box right here we have the

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first steps this QR code to scan for a quick start guide and a QR code to scan

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for an application so downloading the app these are the headphones in a nice

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case we'll get to that in a second and uh some paperwork that's neat

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this is a nice hard shell case um the zipper feels good this is like

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just very premium it's also not too thick it's pretty good which uh inspires

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confidence I hate when you have a travel focused headphone that has a very thick

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case kind of defeats the purpose oh and look at those those are just beautiful

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you got this kind of like spiraling almost like Fibonacci Sequence

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kind of thing coming out from the middle you have their logo right in the middle

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inside we get a three pole headphone connector so 3.5 millimeter uh so that

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means no microphone in this and kind of a less than exceptional cable it is just

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made of like uh soft plastic which is a little disappointing from this brand and

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this price point I'd expect something a little bit more premium feeling but as

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long as it's not like a loud cable and there's no cable noise introduced that's A-Okay we also get a USBC 2C cable again

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similar quality it looks like it's about the length I think they're both four feet I do appreciate the cable ties that

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makes it easy to keep things nice and neat and I also like how they have this little section for uh your cables that

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are relevant to the headphone just keep them right in there and I really like

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this there's a mesh pocket at the top which allows me to store a bunch of extra stuff and let's take a look at the

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headphones again as I said I am just smitten with the design I think they are

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beautiful um very striking too the top is I

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believe it's real leather

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this is almost like an Alcantara or something on the headband very soft it's

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more of a firm kind of foam there it seems like it's gonna be very

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comfortable uh you have metal for the headband this

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feels like there's metal construction on these hinges here

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might just be plastic but it's a nice firm feeling plastic or it's plastic

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with like a metal they're not too heavy so I'd be surprised if there's too much metal in here nice deep ear cups these

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ear cups are removable which is great because they're usually the first thing that goes I believe they're also leather

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real leather ear cups and inside you can see the drivers they're angled towards

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your ears which typically tends to help with the Sound Stage so you can kind of

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see how there's like a little lip there's a little up here but it's not

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totally flat focal has this proprietary Tech where they have an m-shaped speaker

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so basically it's like the cone goes like this and then down in the middle as

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opposed to just being a straight cone and they credit that to why they have

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such a unique and distinct and uh incredible sound so they put those same

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kind of drivers in here these are similar drivers to what you'd find on

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their high-end audiophile headphones speaking of which

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high end so these are relatively cheap

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and when I say relatively I mean relative to the rest of focal's lineup

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these are 800 this is a company that

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sells like five thousand dollar headphones and even more expensive

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speakers so for anything this is this is kind of mainstream which means that it's

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not competing in a similar space than what most Shoppers are looking at this

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is competing against the mark Levinson's number 5909 which is a thousand dollar

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headphone and the Bowers and Wilkins px8

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which is like a 700 headphone they're competing with lots of audio files which

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means I have very high expectations for one audio quality two ANC and three

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usability if I'm spending this much money on a wireless headphone something

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that's supposed to be about convenience probably more so than audio

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I need to make sure that these companies need to nail it when you buy something

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like airpods Max Apple has such a great user experience they have great noise

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canceling that you can forgive the less

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than perfect audio that's on them they're not don't worry airpods Max

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users you guys have good audio the headphones are ugly as but so you

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have to be able to you have to be able to compete with the Heavy Hitters and the if if I'm having a better experience

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on my 400 Sony headphones or my 600 Apple headphones that's a problem

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unless these sounds somehow way more immaculately better than other

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headphones um but let's talk about the user experience on the headphones themselves

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we have a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack a USB type-c a

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button There's No Label this is for your voice

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assistant we have the off DAC and on

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setting so the DAC again is for that USBC DAC that we talked about earlier we

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have a volume up and volume down as well as your

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multi-use button so that'll be your pause play Skip ahead skip back we also

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have a button on the left ear cup specifically for controlling your noise

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canceling which is great having lots of physical buttons makes things really

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easy to use I know what buttons I'm pressing I know what they're going to do it's a lot nicer than gestures or many

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different combinations of TAPS you'll be using the DAC whether you are listening

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through the USBC cable or the three and a half millimeter Jack

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uh one thing to note that is that that means that these are active headphones

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which means that they will be using battery even when you're listening to

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the 3.5 millimeter Jack I think

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they charge at the same time as you're listening if you're using the USBC DAC

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if they do die on you it's just a 15 minute plug for five hours of battery

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which is great love fast charging when you are using the 3.5 millimeter Jack

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it's important to note that you cannot charge these at the same time it doesn't

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matter if you have the USBC plugged in and the headphone jack plugged in you

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just can't charge because it's using the active amplifier oh you can't use a

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microphone with the 3.5 millimeter Jack even the microphones that are included

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in here why because when you're listening through the 3.5 millimeter

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Jack you can't be connected to another Bluetooth device what would have been

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nice is if they made this a four pole a combo headphone and microphone Jack but

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uh sadly they didn't this isn't the biggest problem but it's a convenience

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thing and when you're paying this much money for something I want every part of

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this experience to be smooth I don't have to think about anything which at all just work and also I found very I

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found virtually no difference between listening to any of the inputs whether it was Bluetooth the DAC or the 3.5

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millimeter Jack it was all sounded great now

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that's really nice about these is that these have really nice big ear cups so

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they go all the way around your ears they're very spacious um they're not the

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deepest so if you have ears that stick out a lot to the sides you might find

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them kind of uncomfortable I think they are amazing I've worn these just for

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hours and hours at a time and uh have not had any issues with Comfort I also

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haven't had any issues with getting a good seal which keeps the sound

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consistent and the automatic noise canceling working well like they articulate

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and they tilt blah blah blah like

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they got everything you need for a really comfy pair of headphones and because they're not too heavy they're

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not exhausting and like if you're moving around a lot they stay on your head

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pretty well I mean doing that you're going to knock off any pair of headphones

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I wouldn't work out in these because they're way too expensive could you imagine dropping like a 20 pound weight

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on this thing you'd be very very sad but feasibly if you're like in a hostel

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you're going to be able to move the clamping force is great the foam on the

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side is plush it's just a wonderful wonderful experience these guys have

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been doing it for a long time in the luxury space and you can tell everything

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that they've learned over the many years they've been making luxury products has been put into this and it's just an

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impeccable feeling experience and that carries over to sound full disclosure

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I've been listening to these for a little while I took them on a trip with me and then I left them in another

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province which was stressful because they weren't mine and they are eight

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hundred dollars luckily they made it here shout out to my mom for getting

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them in the mail and I have some thoughts about them they sound really

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really freaking good these are very much tied to the harman Target curve uh what

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the heck does that mean the harman Target is a research-based target curve

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for how to tune your headphones so that's how loud they should be at any

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given frequency the harm and Target will sound relatively neutral to 60 of people

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and just sound good to like 90 of people

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and when we look at the response curves then we got Labs to do we can see that

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this is a very accurate reproduction of

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the harman Target on the y-axis is a normalized volume so if you're playing a

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tone across the whole frequency everything should and it's totally flat you should

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see a very flat line that means that nowhere on the frequencies whether it's

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400 Hertz or 1000 Hertz is anything louder than anything else we can see

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there's a base shelf there's a pronounced increase in the base then it

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follows with a dip in the mids and then a spike kind of in the higher treble area and we fall off towards the really

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really high notes so things like around like 16 000 kilohertz and stuff it dips

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right off a lot of people can't hear those kind of sounds because most people

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have hearing loss from just existing and as you can see this headphone the Orange

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Line matches that curve very very nicely

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there's a lot of wavering and stuff in the high end a lot of that is due to

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just the effects of high frequencies and how they don't really go through stuff

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and because measuring those high frequencies is kind of imprecise now

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this doesn't mean that this is going to sound great to your ears this is based

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on headphones plugged into a robot specifically the one at the

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headphones.com offices shout out to headphones.com for letting us use their

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head simulator because ours hasn't come

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in yet we're going to look back at another graph later when we talk about noise canceling but let's just talk

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about how they sound to my ears they sound great they have a beautiful Sound

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Stage to me things are located beautifully around me when I'm listening

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to these headphones especially for closed backs they have great bass reproduction and I

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think vocals really really shine on this especially uh some of the higher female

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vocals I listen to think like singers in the high range like Whitney Houston

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artists like St Vincent who kind of are in that like soprano like mezzo-soprano

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kind of area just wonderful there's really nothing I can fault about it

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maybe it's a little laid back because in the high end frequencies it's not quite

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so raised so to some people who are used

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to that it might sound a little imprecise or warm to me sounds sounds

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right on the money in terms of noise canceling though it's kind of mid it's

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not as good as the Sony's it's not as good as the airpods when you have the

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ANC on you do hear a little bit of a noise floor increase so there's kind of

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a static that's always kind of playing however

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they do an admirable job it blocks out sounds like on the airplane they were

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fine blocked of a lot of the airplane noise you can see in this image this is

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in comparison to the airpods pro now I

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get that that's a pretty different uh set of headphones

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uh one they're in ears the green line is the focal Batiste and the blue line is

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the airpods pro what you can see is that on the low end these block out less

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noise the LA the line is closer to zero what we want to see is maximum noise

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reduction and you can see really in the mids kind of around the 1000 Hertz area

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or lots of human voices are we really do

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not do as well as the Apple airpods these tend to win out in the higher

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frequencies because they're over ears because they're just bigger higher

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frequencies are easily blocked just by General Mass so these having ear cups

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and like plastic at the back and stuff like that makes things cancel a lot

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easier in the high end so like the fricatives you're talking about like

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your s's your t's your your all of those

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high-pitched sounds like this is oh

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a little bit disappointing there just because of the price point these are at but they probably are as good as the

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Sennheiser momentum threes if you if you want kind of like a baseline if you

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don't how those sound I've had some opinions from around the office saying

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that these are a little bit lacking in bass luckily you can fix that with the

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equalizer that's in the app the app is called focal and name uh n-a-i-m they're

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like another company that makes like receivers and other digital audio

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products they've teamed up with focal to create this app and it works with

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some other speakers and other things like that so in the app there are three

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main things you can adjust you can adjust the EQ the noise cancellation and

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the led the the LED is a good one I

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remember I took these on a flight and when the cabin lights turned off the my

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girlfriend who was sitting beside me she just stared at me like this she was like

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because these things they don't seem that bright right now in the studio but

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they're really really bright in the dark room luckily there's settings between

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dim and off they're not RGB though noise cancellation you can choose between

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silent soft and transparent there's no

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way to turn it completely off I wish

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that you could because sometimes I like to be able to hear a little bit more than even what soft will do but I don't

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want to have transparency mode where it's actively blasting noises into my

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ears if you didn't like the sound signature you can fix it in the EQ

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thankfully they include one however it's just a five band EQ which I think is not

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enough I would rather have eight or even 12 to really be able to dial in exactly

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the sound that I want but some is better than none uh they come with a couple of

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presets and you can customize your own preset you just drag them to where you

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want them to be you click save as new preset type it in

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yeah so the app is very Bare Bones you

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can configure your voice assistant Auto standby settings whether or not you

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want that to happen you do want it you're gonna forget to hit the switch sometimes you want Auto standby to be a

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thing it gets the job done one interesting thing is that if you set the

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EQ in the app it adjusts the EQ of the headphones no matter where you're

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listening to them so say I go I said that you keep the loudness and then I

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disconnect from this phone and go listen somewhere else those EQ settings will

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actually be maintained which is great because then you know how it's going to

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sound with any device you can dial it in exactly how you want it and it's stored

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on the headphones that's a great feature I don't need to be like oh it sounds

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amazing on my Android phone where I have my dialed in EQ but like garbage on my

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Windows device where I don't have an EQ or on my Apple device where there's no

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system-wide EQ Apple just let me have just just make one at the end of the day

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where does that leave us with the focal with the focal batis they're very

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expensive um they're out of the price range of most people lots of people you can buy

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cars for 800 not good cars mind you but

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cars which makes these hard to recommend however these are a truly Hi-Fi pair of

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headphones and if you're in the market for something that's High Fidelity and

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versatile and you don't mind traveling with 800 of merchandise on your head at

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any given moment these are an excellent

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solution especially if you're not in need of massive amounts of noise canceling but if you're everyone else

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consider something like the 400 Sony xm5s those have

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solid sound better noise canceling and

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Sony has years of experience in the market making high quality headphones

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they also have a better app in my opinion or you could go with the

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Sennheiser momentum Force for 350 which will give you a sound signature that's

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closer to these but at

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less than half the price I know that those are completely different price

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categories but you are really getting 80 to 90 percent of the performance of

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these at like half the price but

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if you want the best of the best this is

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check out a video about another expensive pair of headphones like the master and dynamic MW 75s 65s I don't

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know I still use those at my desk I think they sound pretty okay also very

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expensive wait you still have those I do