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they said two years of support was enough they said if you want a new CPU

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you'll have to buy a new motherboard ASRock said no

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that's right it started out as a hacky workaround but on January 12 2022 ASRock

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rolled out official support for installing a brand new AMD processor in

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a motherboard from four years ago which

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raises some burning questions like if AMD and ASRock can do it why can't Intel

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and is this one of those situations where just because you can do something

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AMD and their Partners have done an amazing job over the last five years or

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so supporting both backward and forward compatibility between their multiple

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generations of CPUs and chipsets on the am4 socket though it hasn't been without

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hiccups at its launch in 2016 AMD

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promised compatibility for the socket through 2020 only to pull the rug out

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from under us when they announced that their Zen 3 ryzen 5000 series chips

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would still use am4 but only with the

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latest x570 and b550 chipsets now they

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quickly backpedaled and added official support for b450 and x470 but the

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messaging was That's all folks we're doing you a favor here don't expect it

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to get any better and yet here we are all the way in 2022 discovering that

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their original promise ended up being true at least to a point

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meanwhile Intel strategy for over 10 years has been to release a new socket

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almost every other generation like clockwork physically breaking

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compatibility so there's been no way to challenge their narrative that we needed

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a new motherboard every time around but then something happened a few years ago

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socket H4 more commonly known as LGA 1151 lasted for four whole generations

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of chips but Intel still stuck to their

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story that the early boards couldn't run with the later chips and vice versa now

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to be fair while the socket and the pin layout itself hadn't changed allocation

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and usage did change for coffee Lake

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which was the third generation of chips on this socket some of the previously

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reserved pins were reassigned to add power and ground lines to meet the

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requirements on beefier 6 and 8 core CPUs that's pretty understandable but

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Intel also relocated the processor detection pin breaking compatibility

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they called this socket LG 1151 revision

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2 in order to help differentiate but stuff like that is a big part of why so

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many people find building computers complicated it can be scary spending

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hundreds or even thousands of dollars on Parts only to find out that yes they fit

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together but they don't actually work together unlike our processor hoodie it

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goes great with just about anything lttstore.com

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practices like these are a big part of why we and the majority of the PC

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industry don't advise you to attempt to Future proof your build because no

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matter what you do it's only going to get you so far whether it's the next

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generation of RAM PCI Express or even IO

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how many of you wish you had a USBC port for example there is simply no way to

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guess which investments into better parts will bear fruit and which ones

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will end up having been just a waste of money unless you believed AMD an ASRock for

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that matter back in 2016 and splurged on

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this motherboard the ASRock x370 Pro 4.

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the idea at the time was that if you were a Savvy Shopper you could save a

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few bucks by going with an affordable Bristol Ridge Athlon X4 chip and then

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hold off an upgrade later when either you had some more cash or you took

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advantage of one of the best practices by trailing the bleeding edge by a

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generation of soap so you might have waited until ryzen 2000 launched and

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then snagged a snappier ryzen 1500x from someone who was upgrading then and that

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is Savvy why don't we do some role play

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I'm you boy yours haven't treated you

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well but they've been a lot less kind to your

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poor four core eight thread CPU with its

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piddly 16 megabytes of level 3 cash now

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here's the thing remember I'm you I don't want to download some hacky BIOS

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from a Russian Forum so I'm going to the CPU support section on my motherboard's

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download page and would you look at that it's there

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so for just 270 dollars for a 5600x that is what my

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dumb friends will end up paying for their new Intel motherboard alone I'm

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going to be on the latest generation I can get wrecked but there are some

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catches unlike my friends I will not be getting Cutting Edge features like PCI

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Express Gen 5 or even Gen 4 for that matter I'm gonna have to update the BIOS

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of my motherboard to piece 7.10 which removes compatibility for older chips

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which can carry some risk and unless I want to invest more money into my

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machine say by upgrading my original ddr4 to something faster I might not be

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getting the most out of my new chip so am I actually getting a good deal let's

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test it out now short of a power outage occurring in the middle of BIOS flashing

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you should be okay if you follow along we had to get this specific board the

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x370 Pro 4 but on the ASRock Forum we

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already found evidence that support is rolling out to x370 boards more broadly

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and we've heard rumors that other manufacturers may follow suit so all we

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need is our test bench here some peripherals a USB drive and we're going

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to have links for all this stuff in the description down below we'll also need

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an internet connection so you're going to want to unzip your

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new BIOS and drop it onto an otherwise empty fat 32 USB flash drive that 32 is

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still the default when you format in Windows for lower capacity drives but if

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you want to double check you can just look in the properties once your drive

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is plugged in once you're ready restart the system and mash or hold F2 or delete

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to enter the UEFI BIOS now we're going to ignore the majority of this and just

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go to the tool tab hey I get it

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that's not funny and select instant Flash and steal

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yourself because once we take this next step there is no turning back the bridge

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BIOS that we're going to use remove support for Bristol Ridge CPUs and

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cannot be unflashed at least according to asrock's website so we're going to do

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this BIOS then another one and we should be

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ready for ryzen 5000. oh and I hope you're ready because we've got a video

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upcoming about GPU shunt modding that

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you're going to want to be subscribed to you do not miss

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this is going to take a minute so and

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reboot what's that no I like mashing it I'm a

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Masher I want to make sure that's the correct version we actually should have

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done that before do you want to update yes I do hopefully we have all the

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secure flash check fail whoa and it's off I mean I did say this

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process wasn't without risk didn't I I looked it up and apparently this can

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come up when you're using a thumb drive with too much capacity which is exactly

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why I keep this piece of crap in my little bag of tricks it's a one gig pen

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drive completely generic USB 2

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and we're gonna throw the BIOS file on there

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fatty 32 is what I call this boy it's my

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fatty 32 oh there it is yes it's got it come on

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come on come on come on come on come on come on come on yeah yeah all right

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fatty 32 to the rescue all right well we don't actually want to

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boot right now because we are going to put a 5600 x in

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ow we are gonna put a 5600x in this mama

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jama okay come on now we're gonna try it's

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gonna do its best to defend its socket from us

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okay

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pre-apply thermal paste yeah yeah blue subset that I am reusing the thermal

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paste on the bottom of the heat sink if we were doing any kind of comparative

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thermal analysis obviously I would reapply fresh paste but we're not we're

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just getting it running and this is fine everything's fine everything is good

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here catch no I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw it

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jeez you guys give me no credit around here okay new CPU installed

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structure trained and Pueblo yes reset

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and this is where we would lose all of our data why is this on here if we had

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been using was that on my shoulder the whole time yeah oh for crying out loud I

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wanted to change to a shirt you can actually buy on lttstore.com

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oh look at that look at that it sure didn't go to 3200

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it's at 2133 all right so we're gonna have to try and re-enable our docp

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memory profile here I don't know what to expect in terms of memory speeds

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obviously we're getting a much newer memory controller but I also know that

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motherboard manufacturers have learned a heck of a lot about optimal memory Trace

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layouts for ryzen in the last four years so maybe this will just

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go and maybe it'll go

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I don't know and remember you can't have success without suck sorry I'm in a bit

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of a mood today I swear I'm fine and there we go right to 3200 no complaints

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whatsoever we haven't done any stability testing or anything but that's

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definitely a good sign melee melee I don't know how to lay in

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this game oh yeah you got to switch to the knife okay I'm gonna get them I'm

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gonna get them foreign

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but that's okay because the 5600x in our

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ancient x370 motherboard did not get

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beat by an x570 board that's right

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where'd it go where's my x574 there it is over there

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okay technically technically we came out

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behind RX 570 board by about 15 FPS in

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CS go but we're talking the difference between

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545 frames per second and 560. so it's

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not exactly a big deal crazily enough we actually came out ahead in F1 2020 so

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not only is our ancient board not causing any problems with a pretty

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powerful graphics card an RTX 2080 super our PCI Express gen 3 bottleneck isn't

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causing any bottlenecks for us at all again I can't speak to the future but

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come on guys do you want more future out of this

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it's doing pretty well it all just goes to show you that sometimes trusting a

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company's promise of years of support and spending a little bit more actually

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can pay off at least one time it's happened we did

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still obviously need to buy a new CPU but we can keep the rest of our system

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exactly as it is and get a massive uplift in performance with significantly

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higher boosting capabilities twice the level 3 cash for our 1500x not to

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mention two more cores now over on the

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Intel side of things LGA 1200 was just put out to pasture after just two

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processor Generations an LGA 1700 has

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just launched and I don't think we've heard any kind of commitment to

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long-term support for that socket but the same is actually true on the AMD

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side of things officially they haven't committed to any kind of long-term date

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for their upcoming PCI Express Gen 5 and ddr5 platform but based on the success

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that AMD has had with am4 I think consumers have signaled that longevity

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