what is up everyone and welcome to the WAN Show I was up until 5 a.m two times
this week and about 3 30 last night so
the energy might be a little lower and highlight rain we've got a great show
for you guys today we're gonna be talking about NVIDIA's recent assertion
that native resolution gaming is dead
Long Live dlss and
oh I don't know if I can argue with them about this there was a massive Xbox leak
revealing plans for consoles controllers games and dreams of Acquisitions what
else we got to talk about this week Microsoft announces co-pilot for the
78th time or something around there I'm not entirely sure and a video that came
out recently that was actually quite fantastic the mom and pop computer shop
video that came out yesterday was that yesterday that's a topic we're going to
talk about some of the behind the scenes stuff oh fun all right let's go ahead
and roll that intro first
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right into our first topic yesterday NVIDIA officially released dlss 3.5 so
far it's only supported in cyberpunk 2077 and creative tool chaos Vantage but
dlss 3.5 is kind of cool it adds Ray
reconstruction which uses a super
computer trained AI Network so buzzwords
an AI Network yeah cool
um to generate higher quality pixels in
between sampled Rays by recognizing
lighting patterns from training data and recreating them during play NVIDIA
claims an eight percent frame rate boost in cyberpunk 2077 over dlss 3 and also
claims that it is less demanding on the GPU though that has not been Quantified
this is this is wild though in response
to a question about whether NVIDIA plans to prioritize native resolution
performance in gpus Brian Catanzaro sure
NVIDIA's VP of Applied deep learning research stated that relying on brute
power to improve graphical Fidelity is a sub-optimal solution when Moore's Law no
longer seems to hold old instead the future of gaming Graphics will be a
greater Reliance on AI assisted rendering and upscaling according to
Catanzaro smarter Technologies like dlss
need to be implemented to improve Graphics Fidelity and circumvent the
otherwise low gen on gen performance improvements seen in today's graphics
Hardware this is a quote I think yep dlss AI will
eventually be able to replace traditional rendering entirely now I
think there's a ton for us to unpack here because first of all looking at it
from a right now today perspective I think it's fair to say that most Gamers
would strongly prefer to just render it
native resolution and
have an identical experience every time
the game is rendered accurately no matter what Hardware they're on right
and it just all comes down to well how well optimized is your Hardware but I
would actually okay there's there's a few things that I want to kind of bring
up as uh as sort of a a a devil's
advocate sort of argument um but I mean do you think that's fair
to say most Gamers would rather just game at Native res not necessarily
um I I think
I would be a little bit sketched out if I was a competitive player
trying to put something that's going to potentially
like uh yeah it seems pretty good most of the time but maybe it it doesn't show
me the thing that I need need to see perfectly the one time I need to see it
right because you might actually be aiming at a pixel yeah so like uh I don't know but if I'm
playing single player games I don't I don't know how much I care as long as it
looks really good it's probably fine you know
so here's and and I I mean I think we
can see from the uh not just sorry not just aiming at a pixel either and oh
maybe this kind of ruins the competitive game argument
um but also like Pixel Perfect jumps
Pixel Perfect timings and various you could be competitive in a single player
game that you're trying or something yeah yeah yeah
um all right now here's here's before you guys before you guys get too far
ahead um oh
do we have a problem I'll figure that out
seems like maybe just floating back not sure okay cool uh before we
before we get too far ahead of ourselves here
's I at least seems like the chat is mostly on the same page as as my sort of
perception of the situation they would rather not rely on these AI upscaling or
or machine learning Solutions but can I just
make us make a small point in game development
how often is it that we are seeing hacky
solutions that are implemented in order for us to achieve playable frame rates
you know whether it's uh man I remember doing this uh going down this rabbit
hole into how uh Reflections in the
scope of a rifle are done in traditional gaming versus uh
path traced or Ray traced gaming where the kind of hacky solution where they're
there they basically create I forget exactly what it was but
um the the way that they could do that with a minimal performance impact and
still have it seem relatively accurate just absolutely blew my mind
um what is the what is the difference there that's kind of my question to you
what's the difference if it's implemented at a driver level by an
NVIDIA or an AMD versus if it's implemented game by game in order to
optimize the game your thoughts
yeah reflects a pre-rendered image is at least one of the techniques for that
I don't know I something that concerns me about a lot
of this kind of stuff too is like what we saw with Starfield I know I'm like giving kind of
a politician answer so I'm not answering the question that you asked I'm still
going to ask you to answer the question sure go ahead
um but like we we saw that come out without dlss right I'm sure the
community was able to respond that time and there was a paid solution then there
was free Solutions and then now uh Bethesda said that they're gonna bring
native dlss to Starfield and that's cool and whatever sounds good
um but if if the quote that I heard that
kind of spooked me a little bit of dlss
Slash AI will eventually be able to replace traditional rendering entirely
like uh that sounds like we're gonna run
into a lot of issues um I feel like that would
that would bring problems in in relation to like abandoned where Dead games that
you can't play anymore because there's like some weird thing going on with how
it was expected to work at one point in time but now our current rendering paths
are different um I also think
uh that there's a lot of potential for
really not
cool combat between the various
companies that have their various proprietary solutions that are trying to
sponsor a game and then they try to you know line Pockets to get them to not
actually include certain Solutions so it's basically unplayable on whatever
graphics card and then like the performance difference between Brands
ends up being really dramatic depending on the company and the partnership that
they had with the GPU company uh stuff like that I mean whether the
anti-competitive stuff happens or not it's not like we haven't seen similar
things in the past and I just don't
I don't necessarily know if it's going to be any different than you know your
tress effects and your hair works and your physics and all the different
things that we've seen over the years and can I just can I again play Devil's
Advocate again here and say okay but
what if the AI assisted version is just
legitimately better seeing what they can do with the amount
of diarrhea on a modern GPU that is dedicated to this machine learning
processing going through these going through these
like these these trained models if they
if that advances at a faster rate then
just raw GPU grunt I mean could we see a
game developer be able to design like this
you remember this right NVIDIA canvas yeah yeah I mean obviously this wasn't
being done in real time at you know 60 to you know 500 frames per second when
they first showed it off but I think it's pretty clear that in the machine
learning space we're seeing a development or an advancement curve that
is much faster than traditional GPU raster rendering
so with that in mind
is this a better way I think it kind of already is because
with uh 3.0 because we're already we're already in a
situation where we are
it's it's clear that 4K is kind of the
final frontier for you to have any hope of high refresh rate gaming I just I
don't I don't foresee and you know what
I'm probably going to end up eating these words at some point but I don't
foresee a reason I don't foresee any need for us to drive games at
significantly higher resolutions than that natively
because you have so much data to process
at 4K that you could upscale it not
infinitely but wow a lot yeah
um yeah and just the the the just the general improvements that you get from
it are something that we've recommended people use for quite a while now so like
yeah yeah so okay so I see I see 4K is
that much better now basically the the
end of that which is almost kind of an argument against my point in that if
we're not trying to push resolution higher well then the obvious answer is
to push visual Fidelity higher but then looking at um oh shoot yeah start start
field what what's that technique called where they they they actually scanned
real objects in order to get the the texture quality super high
sorry say again they scanned Real World objects in order uh I feel like Dan is
going to know photo something um
photogrammetry yeah yeah yeah so if you could if you could just
create all of your in-game assets with photogrammetry and then
just run basically almost like uh almost
like a like a mocap sort of equivalent like or or like a proxy footage
equivalent where you're actually rendering with markers essentially and
then your GPU is just interpreting it's almost like compressing the entire
asset library of the game in a sense like you
kind of get what I mean right yeah but because we're coming back to this that
seems even more concerning for multiplayer games and like sure there's
there's been this like what about destructible
environments and multiplayer games using that setup
oh as long as you well actually hold on
that could be a way to make destructible environments manageable from a
performance standpoint because if you've got this material and you've assigned
characteristics to it then all you need to do so the geometry isn't done that
way yeah so you can all your answers now you can spend all that compute on
Geometry and then the the exactly the textures or like the unique scarring of
the surface or whatever yeah that might differ from one player to the next but
it'll be probably reasonably close until
you know someone discovers that if you wear like uh like a an all an all like
um blacked out you know suit or something like that and you happen to
stick close to like wear explosions where you can hide or something you know
I'm but what's the difference Luke people are
already exploiting everything anyway yeah yeah so it's just it's just a new
thing to do right like you know don't don't pretend you know your hands are
totally clean I see you and Joe playing tarkov with your second monitor with
your Discord seeing each other's Viewpoint like that's not technically
the way it's meant to be played but realistically everybody else who's
squatted up is doing it anyway so okay fine then at a certain point it's not
like uh unfair it's uh get good
if you don't don't hate the player hate the game yeah I just see you dress in
Black sometimes you'll see engine demos yeah those engine demos were like look
really sick the Fidelity will be super high yeah um but then you you start kind
of diving more into it you start figuring out like okay uh creative
auditing from the community in this engine is like not going to be a thing
for XYZ reason none of these environments are destructible uh if you
if you look at these environments in different angles it starts to break down
pretty bad ways like different things like that and I I think I'm my concern
if we go away from like the the just the
statement of replacing traditional rendering keeps getting me concerned about like the technology that we've
already built for traditional rendering
abandoning that and going forward I feel like is going to have pitfalls that we
don't necessarily understand that I don't understand
um in regards to the the games that we can necessarily make maybe I'm just
completely wrong about this that sounds good to me hopefully that's right but I
mean I think once we resolve a lot of the copyright and intellectual property
ownership issues around AI generated
assets um if anything I and I mean maybe I'm just
coming at this from a lay person's perspective right like I don't do game
development but honestly it seems to me
a lot easier
yeah probably like if I easier yeah but is it is it as
good of a space to be creative in that's
the thing that I'm concerned about I guess it's it depends depends creativity
you want like uh you know I think we've we've talked before about like if I if I
was to you know invest in making a game
you know what kind of what kind of game would it be and honestly
if if I was to if I was to spec out my dream game that I would make it would be
episodic even though I know the business model is totally broken and doesn't work
um it would be it would be heavily heavily story focused like I could see
okay there were these like kind of uh kind of trashy like fantasy novels that
I read when I was like a teenager uh by
this author Terry Brooks and it's all about this um this like Fantasy World
shinara um and I could
I could honestly it's all just like adventuring all over this land and I
could I could see a game like that where you instead of hiring game writers
necessarily you hire writers writers like
and just create this world that gradually opens up and with every
episode creates more and more environments to for you to go and visit
essentially an MMO but not you really gotta play Baldur's Gate massively
multiplayer oh I know I know 100
um you're really nicely defining ball Escape three well that's that's great
um one difference though is that nothing I
wouldn't intend anything to be High Fidelity so I for my three looks really
good yeah from my point of view I had almost zero interest like I was thinking
like um like RPG Maker level of of
graphical Fidelity like it doesn't matter to me yeah
but if I could
if I could just
you know draw a stick figure and then say okay yeah you know that now
and now it just looks like something cool so you're talking about basically
lowering barrier of Entry yes don't have to be as much of a
coder don't have to be as much of a designer or reallocating resources
because I think that's something that we've mostly agreed upon for a long time
that a lot of the time the the the
things that games get wrong is they'll have these really cool technical details
or they'll be absolutely you know beautiful it's not actually fun but it's
not it's not fun it's not engaging the AAA curse or this or like the story
sucks and you just you know your Sidekick dies and you're like so
you were just a three-dimensional
you're like oh thank goodness now they're not going to bug me anymore yeah
thank thank gravy I don't have to do
another shut up escort escort Quest yeah
exactly so I mean I don't know we've got
people in chat saying I want graphical Fidelity or I'm not interested
yeah but you can get you can get that yeah
yeah that's the thing no part of what he's saying is that you wouldn't get
that what he's saying is that when he's making it he doesn't have to
worry about that you can you can draw stick figures he can do whatever and
then it's going to turn that into something more um but again you know there's all this
intellectual property stuff to to figure out oh yeah definitely I
I don't know when or how or if that's
going to be resolved
I suspect it will be but yeah Wayne however if is is pretty questionable
um it's an interesting thing because it's
it's cool that more people
the more things are more accessible with it but then it's also not cool
uh taking people's jobs away and also
you know it's real good at getting something that's going to be acceptable
to a decent amount of people but it's not real good at making masterpieces no
that's fair that's totally fine like I I there's
there's this old story of where was it
Austria is that where Beethoven's from Austria I can't remember wherever he's
from there's if I remember correctly it's it's a this could just be not even
a true story so great watch it here comes fake fake Story Time totally might
be totally might I'm really glad I heard this like this forever ago it might have
even been a different uh composer yeah I
don't okay so you don't know who you don't know where I don't know if you
don't know exactly when you have no idea if it's true why don't we just say
Luke's about to make up a story yeah yeah yeah okay tell us a story um but it
was basically every every school in that country had a grand piano yeah because
they're like you never know when the next version in Luke's fictional country
okay yes carry on every every school had
a great piano because they were they wanted the opportunity for if if another
person like this came around um that they would be able to realize it
okay cool that's a really neat idea yeah
there was a massive Xbox leak that revealed plans for consoles controllers
games and dreams of Acquisitions this
week and the amount of Click bait that I
saw around this has been absolutely colossal like I I clicked on this one
article that was like Microsoft planned
to acquire Nintendo yeah and as I'm reading through the article I'm sitting
here going no that's not what happened at all like I I I I I clicked it because
I went well surely they couldn't be stupid enough to think that like the the
government of Japan and Nintendo itself would
what for for money like sell out to
Microsoft like that it's it's not even it's not even conceivable and I was like
surely they couldn't have gotten too far into these no there were there were no
talks there was no there was no Microsoft
the Nintendo acquisition that all uh who
who said it was it was it Phil Spencer I don't remember but someone basically
said that would be a career defining moment or something like that well yeah
it would that would be an industry defining moment if Nintendo's been
around for like what 150 years or whatever it is hey Linus God what
wouldn't be sick if we acquired Mr Beast yeah yeah so news news here comes the
dexterto article you know line is almost acquired almost beast but yeah almost
happened feastables more like Tech typical
that's our new chocolate bar the quick bits that's not bad we we've quick bits
for like a bagged snack we wanted to do a cereal at one point that'd be pretty
good I know it's a really good name for a cereal oh
yeah dang we also have um we also have
uh Linus cat tips quick bites and quick
bits in the production in the production queue do you know what Linus cat tips
are no okay so I want to make like a cat
teaser oh a cat toy and then it would have interchangeable tips and they'd be
it doesn't doesn't matter oh yeah I'm really sorry anyway a
Microsoft employee appears to have mistakenly uploaded a large Trove of
confidential documents both redacted and unredacted to a legal Court website used
in the trial between the FTC and Microsoft this has resulted in what is
possibly the largest leak of Xbox related information to date most of it
from 2020 and onward on the hardware side project Brooklyn was a discless
Xbox series X refresh and project Elwood
an equivalent Series S console that we're scheduled to launch in Fall 2024
or I shouldn't say was uh I mean maybe
anything leaked could be could not be
you never know things can things can be developed really quickly sometimes and
projects that seem like they're just about across the line can get axed so
who knows a next-gen hybrid Cloud
console that uses both local and Cloud processing is scheduled allegedly for
2028 that is actually farther out than I
expected really yeah I I mean looking at
how hard they were pushing uh looking at how hard they were pushing the cloud
with Xbox series X I thought it sounded like they're going to do this with
Sirius X yeah sebile an elite style controller with
haptics that double as speakers a lift
to wake feature and direct to Cloud connectivity similar to stadia man this
is cool uh one document showed a mock-up of a first party Xbox handheld but
handheld was listed as not in scope for
first party on what can only be described as a funding pyramid
what huh
interesting not in scope for first party so what they would allow an ecosystem of
Xbox handhelds like kind of Logitech gcloud kind of thing or maybe that oh
that'd be that'd be super cool and what
what else what else we got here uh oh however the Keystone Cloud console is in
the funded section despite being canceled last year before this document
was generated Okay so take all of these leaks with a grain of
salt but definitely cool stuff then on the gaming side Bethesda parent company
zenimax had a planning document listing several upcoming games yeah including a
doom game called year zero Dishonored 3
a ghostwire Tokyo sequel an Indiana Jones game
ah that what the Indiana Jones yeah was for
yeah that'll either be amazing or more
likely kind of terribly trash yeah yeah probably terrible I mean you never know
I mean I didn't have a lot of Hope for the 2016 Tomb Raider reboot yeah and
that was actually very good it ended up being excellent it's it's one of the few
games in the like at that time in my life when I was very busy that I
actually played all the way through it was very good a lot a lot of movie tying
games are not good um did you just call Tomb Raider a movie
tie-in game is it not
I didn't play the ones when we were really young was there no like super old
school Tomb Raider movie I know the newer Tomb Raider movie was not good but
I thought those were like remakes of some super old thing I'm gonna quietly
ask you to leave I don't know honestly I just don't care
um but I was gonna say Spider-Man my actual point wasn't Tomb Raider it was
Spider-Man came out and was absolutely surprisingly good I thought that's also
not adapted
uh yeah it is actually obviously originally there's the comic
books but I'm pretty sure the game is based on the movie is it not yeah so
nice try bucko um moving on from not sort of it's
specifically pulled from the movie people are so mad I'm totally twisting
what he's saying yes it's so much worse than it is and they just Dove right with
you I'm just glad they're mad at you for a change yeah yeah that's that's okay
I'll take that I'll take that too to be honest
um moving on from there there's remasters of Oblivion and Fallout 3
which
the the remix yeah the Oblivion the
Oblivion movie The Oblivion movie Oblivion movie yeah
graphic novels the Elder Scrolls
it's from a scroll yeah a lot of them
they're old they're eligible Scrolls come on
um they already did a vault the the move to remaster Oblivion I honestly think is
really weird um really because because of Sky
Oblivion and I honestly bet you at this point Sky Oblivion will be better than
the Oblivion remaster so then they just issue a cease and desist
so that they can sell Oblivion remastered I think that would be
honestly hard for them to do because it's a mod of Skyrim given how given how
precarious their relationship with the modding Community I think that would
like kill it yeah because this is this has been such an
incredibly long-running project from people that are seen as
very good members of the community you know
I don't know I don't know I think that would be really bad but to me like the
especially because Sky Oblivion is the furthest along one because there's uh
what is the what is the Morrowind called Morrowind one called
Elijah in the chat Boomer Scrolls wow
cool stop um yeah skywind is the is the Morrowind
version of that project which as far as my understanding goes is not anywhere
near as far along as the um probably more challenging
oh I'm sure yeah
um business stuff from executive emails by
at least 2020 Microsoft apparently had write-ups outlining the potential value
of acquiring Nintendo and valve though they apparently saw no means to do so uh
yeah um they were likewise interested in purchasing the U.S branch of tick tock
and Warner Brothers interactive Phil Spencer said acquiring Nintendo would be
a career moment okay so it was Phil Spencer there's confirmation that
Microsoft is primarily interested in Activision Blizzard for King the makers
of Candy Crush how sad is that I mean I don't know I don't know what's
worse the fact that Activision Blizzard
has fallen so far that we don't care
about IPS like Diablo or Warcraft
compared to Candy Crush
or the fact that gaming has
or at least the the money made in gaming
has shifted so heavily to mobile
like whale whale harpooning games like Candy Crush
um that I think that's the worst part that that those that that traditional
model is not really interesting at an executive
you know return for shareholders level
anymore that's wow
yeah honestly the the heights that blizzard fell from
and the heights that Activision fell from are both like incredible
both of those Studios were just like top of the freaking world and have totally
fallen off so that's a big part of it
um I think the the games that they've been releasing are are
pathetic Shadows of what they used to so
I don't know um but also yeah people eat into that
model so like it's I don't even know what you say at this point because
gamers are gonna buy stuff it just happens in one exchange Activision execs
describe the Nintendo switch 2 as closer in power to last gen PS4 and Xbox One
which makes a lot of sense have you seen
the recent rumors that the switch 2 will be as powerful as a PS5
or an Xbox series X no what are you talking about that's not
how that works if it is a mobile
device which as far as I can tell most
people seem to be indicating that it will be a switch too a direct sequel
kind of like the Super Nintendo or the Wii U right
what could possibly make you think it will have anywhere near in the same
article I'm reading I'm reading people
who are saying it will be based on NVIDIA's ampere
architecture and it will be a mobile device and it
will have the same performance as a PlayStation what are you talking about
oh my God Conrad just said it's gonna be called The Switch U just to make it
extra confusing that would be amazing I would love that I should just call it
switch off at that point because no one's going to tune into that forget it
like I feel like I feel like this is the same conversation that we had back when
Tesla announced that every one of their cars
that they had that they were shipping would be capable of full autonomous
driving and I'm sitting here going look I don't know everything about everything
certainly not I there's lots of things I
don't know or or don't understand the intricacies of but one of the things
that I do know is that at that time
microprocessor technology even if even if Tesla was five years ahead of the
competition there was no there was no road map to the kind of
the kind of AI inferencing that we were
going to need for full self-drive like
because remember self-driving full autonomous operation
is not 99 of the time
or 99.9 of the time think about it
if it was 99 accurate
in a hundred hours you would spend one
hour doing the wrong thing on the road
that is not okay
horrible 99.9 of the time if it was that good
every thousand hours you could be spending an hour driving down the wrong
side of the road or on the sidewalk or a
more Minor error there are yeah there are there are a little bit of there are
some issues with interpreting it that way but it's also not that wrong yes but
I would say if you if you evaluate it so okay you're right and based on how that
thing is laid out there's no way to
know how that should be interpreted because you don't know the severity of
these errors yes but looking at like people driving down the road what
percentage of the time are they doing the wrong thing uh by looking somewhere
incorrectly or just absent-mindedly like not really seeing what's in front of
them stuff like that it's probably extremely high but they're probably also
not driving down the wrong side of the road like you're giving for an example and there's no way to differentiate
those levels of Errors that's true that's true and and and we we don't know
for sure if like you said humans are making are are spending you
know yeah one one out of every hundred or one out every thousand hours like
completely doing the wrong thing I you know people run red lights it happens
people fall asleep with a wheel yep 100 percent
I think what we can all agree on is that
um Meg's 1991 says in the Floatplane chat
Luke thinks Mario Bros is based on a movie
I didn't know I didn't know how I just don't know how you got it so wrong Luke
it's too meter who cares
it's 13 year olds care you don't like
pyramids look we did the first Tomb Raider game okay there's two Raiders
game release
what was I like five or something
200 gold is 1998. all right so I was
1996 in October so I was five
could have been a movie I don't know why do I care
I don't know maybe you were a precocious youngster and already a pyramid
Enthusiast I do I honest I might have been at that point I'm not sure you are
well you either recently were or you
were going to be one soon you know
it is interesting that there's a bit of a gap there yeah yeah yeah so we ended
up um talking about nursing Luke I'm sure
nobody had that on their bingo
this is pretty interesting someone who float plain chat linked to me
um uh one of the leaked versions oh this
isn't working anymore since we restarted uh stream index broken can't show you my
laptop but it's uh one of the leech documents
um says gaming there's a picture of Master Chief because of course there is uh then
it says gaming devices oh there we go yeah gaming devices passed to 2030.
console business is the foundation damn it Microsoft uh consoles are considered
a key Health meter for the brand and will continue to drive majority of
Revenue and subscribers into 2030.
um new endpoints are the it's still very unimportant right now yeah me too this
is the interesting part though it's like they kind of shift immediately after
saying that so they say consoles of foundation this
is the health meter all that kind of stuff and then they say like to get 200 million members though unlocking new
off-console endpoints and improving the experience will substantially grow
subscribers over the next eight years okay so which one is it Microsoft
exactly that's an interesting point to
be fair I think they're saying it's the foundation this is our majority that type of stuff but we need to right so
they're saying that to build a pyramid
they have to have a lot of consoles yeah and then they have to have a sharp point
of endpoints yeah and then they turn it on the side
yeah and then you have two of them
controller controller becomes the hero as Point number three the new Xbox
controller is the only thing you'll need to play on a on every new device this
new low barrier of Entry will fuel subscriber growth
um so subscriber growth so they're just talking about like game yeah that's it
that's all they care about that's it Game Pass baby
yeah personalization and customization personalization customization continue
as a hardware strategic advantage and a
key profit driver and customer delighter never heard that word before but it
sounds good yeah I've heard like delighting customers being a delighter a
customer delayed yeah I don't know if I've heard of a customer delayer before but I also don't spend a ton of time in
gentlemen's clubs so yeah yeah or pyramids
um sustainability and accessibility continued progress towards uh reduction
of carbon tax impact re-energizing our
journey of inclusion personalization it's interesting to me that they would
think that personalization is a strength of Xbox
they do um no it doesn't you got to send us back there we go they do they do
push their custom controllers a lot yeah but honestly I think a lot of people buy
them why not the console though customization of the console yeah like
look at how Sony's doing with the with the PlayStation 5 dark plates or
whatever their first party one is called the the dbrand thing
like I um
Avon fox says Tomb Raider was a pyramid scheme yeah that's how they made money
it kind of was it was the kind of what yeah yeah yeah
um yeah that's interesting
I don't really you know chop for Xbox as much I don't even think they've done
much in the way of before the Xboxes this time around like we have this we
have this super cool uh like gears Xbox One X that was sick or was it a 1s I
don't remember but you have one of those actually yeah let's did you steal it
from work no oh okay why the hell do you have an Xbox a long story I turned it on
one time I'm interested in this it's still under my TV though I'd like to
hear the story I wanted the controller
so we found his weakness we found the thing that will make loops oh no no
money no no I didn't buy it oh my God
carry on I wanted the controller so I
had the the red I should have known better gears controller yeah that I
probably stole from work um yeah that definitely because I think
it disappeared the red one I've had it
for like years it was before there was a lounge so I don't know where I got it
from I might have got it from Willow actually I'm not sure
nice backtrack it's possible good job it's technically possible but I had the
red gears controller and I wanted to play uh NHL with my brother because they
won't release NHL and PC since like what was it like 96 or something like no no
it was in the 2000 it was like 2005 or 2006 oh maybe it's 2006. yeah um but
yeah they haven't released NHL on PC in forever so my brother and I wanted to play on Xbox
um and I wasn't I didn't really want to buy an Xbox but I had
um plans of how we could play an NHL
game on the TV
don't worry about it through Cloud streaming sure
um but anyways I'd wanted more Xbox controllers and I couldn't find just
getting just the gears controller
because that's all I wanted I didn't actually want the Xbox
so I reached out to a contact and I was like can I buy just the controller
and then they sent me the whole thing I didn't know they were going to do it
so you leveraged your you know contacts here I did not meet this person through
work
he knows what he did
well no I've had it for like four years or something
yeah they got a really great value out of that yeah yeah okay yeah hey I mean
the good news is it can never you know Red Ring of Death if you never turn it
off well okay because I know that's not an issue with the series Xbox One S or
whatever but right got that TV yeah the TV was more or less also so
that I could like have people over oh right and then that was like that was a
week before coven happened yeah how'd
that go for you no I I'm not even the one that uses the TV anymore
it's like exclusively my girlfriend I
don't ever use it I think you had a I think you had an inkling that that was
gonna happen at the time though I did yeah because you were like yeah I don't
care about the TV but this is the good one right I'm like yeah you're like okay
yeah that's exactly how it happened yeah okay that makes sense I did zero
research I called Linus like on the way to the store and was like tell me what
to do hey it's a good TV it's great
it was yeah it worked it worked quite well I was yeah you bought it a good
time because basically there were some huge sale you've got 4K 120 hertz you've
got HDR support you've got variable refresh rate with like g-sync
compatibility or whatever um so you've got basically everything
you need and all that's happened since then is they've gotten a little bit
brighter basically more color gamut more brighter they are better the newer ones
are better but if you are using them anytime other than during the day with
sunlight coming in I I the newer ones
are better but man are you ever having a lot of the experience with I think it's
what like a C2 or something that you have C1 I don't remember I don't
remember you'd honestly probably remember better than me man it might not even be no it must be like a C10
yeah because they they started over
oh really yeah yeah so there's like there's so C8 and 9 and 10 or whatever I
can't remember if there was a c in there Luke thinks when show is based off
Rancho pink
sorry oh man okay
anywho uh Dan we don't know what to do because you don't have the cue cards up
yeah I lost uh everything uh hey my
buttons work now I fixed the buttons I just fixed the buttons it's flustered
Dan uh what do we do merge messages now I don't know this one says do merch
messages okay put that up
there see he hit the microphone it's a microphone why are you hurting our
viewers saved yourself I deserve it no
no this hasn't happened in so long I don't
know what I'm doing anymore I swear this never happens to me yes it's interesting
sorry hold on what hold on there's there's interesting slides in this deck
um Cloud first Gamers is the blue PC first Gamers is the the light green and
console first and Multi-Device gamers are we that small
well okay I think Multi-Device is yeah
that's stupid you can't just lump
Multi-Device in with console because there's plenty of PC first Gamers that
are Multi-Device oh man
yeah that's pretty dumb that feels like
someone on the console team trying to inflate trying to juice it yeah trying
to juice the numbers yeah
yeah I don't know that's it yeah that's a strong disagree wow that thing is it
looks like a router it's just like a circular it's one of those old stupid uh
like D-Link had routers that look like that I think back in the day
updated Technologies wow this is this
leak is crazy
that actually is holy crap
giving our fans more to love like this is this is clearly presentations that
real time was spent on and are very real
wow
die string for improved efficiency
Undisputed yeah I think there are a fair
number of people that would dispute the series s in general and it's um it's
positive contributions to to console gaming but sure
yeah uh all right let's explain what merge messages are and do a couple we
don't do twitch bits or whatever the
thing on super chats man I sleep
deprived you know there's a there's different kinds of sleep deprived
sometimes I get kind of like uh like like silly and then other times I get
you know today I'm just stupid like I I actually I feel like I feel
like this is what it must be like to not be very smart
start a thought and I just I don't know how to explain this there's
there's you can you can say something I'm like I don't understand you can
apparently make uh rough equations or sorry rough comparisons between sleep
deprivation and and uh being drunk yeah
being awake for at least 18 hours is the same as someone having a blood alcohol
uh content level of 0.05 being awake for
24 hours is equal to having a blood alcohol content of 0.1 percent sick
uh well see I'm not sleeping that way
it's more cumulative yeah I think that's a harder one to measure but I'm sure it
has a similar effects I I have I've had a really big
um I've had a really big project on the go lately we finally
finally have the one you land Center
gaming systems up you know what we can talk we can talk about a little bit
later on the show first let's explain what emerge messages uh so we don't do
those normal kinds of messages to shows because we think they're kind of a bad
value for the viewer what if we don't see them or what if we see them then
frankly they're not very you know relevant and we don't respond to them
then you basically got nothing you got pixels on a screen
um and and that's that's a shame but the way that we do it hey you get your
pixels on the screen sup Alexander G uh our producer Dan will go through some of
the merch messages and either reply to them himself like to Alexander G or send
them to us to address later on the show or none of that happens and hey you just
get your order in the mail and you get like a sick t-shirt or a hoodie or water
bottle or a screwdriver or whatever the case may be so you just gotta go to the
merch message box in the cart and whenever we're live fill out the merch
messages field and then go ahead and place your order and it gets dumped into
the queue for producer Dan uh Dan do you
have a couple of uh a couple merch messages for us I do actually first one
here hey lld given the amount of times you talk about tech related lawsuits or
legislation have you considered adding legal experts to the team to review them
so we know exactly how it's affecting us I think for the most part
unless you are an enormous company you
you generally seek legal advice on a consultancy basis like I mean even I'm
thinking like even you know the cnns and you know Fox News of the World
um uh they uh okay hold on hold on just
a second they obviously have internal legal legal counsel oh but they'll also
have but they but when they're but for the content
they bring in legal contributors who my understanding is a lot of the time are
not necessarily paid they're paid in exposure on the network is is my
understanding and to be clear I'm not I'm not suggesting this is not a call
for lawyers to consult for me for free it's just what I'm saying is that I
don't I don't necessarily know that media organizations will just
have a lawyer on staff because the thing about law is it's not just you don't
just it's very specialized so if we were
going to talk about you know copyright or if we were going to talk about
um for example uh patent uh patent law or if we were
going to talk about um I wouldn't even be surprised if
Financial crimes you know CNN style legal team would almost be a legal team
that uh like Works through contractors
or like finds the right no yeah knows who to know and who to who to bring in
for you know a a relevant take on whatever the the topic du jour is yeah I
could totally see that yeah
vectavis says I have an ex-prosecutor as my company's legal counsel sometimes
they can pivot I mean that's true but what if they what if they don't or what
if they make a mistake would I be better off just you know bringing in someone to
consult for us on a you know whenever needed I yeah I don't
know it's not something that it's not something that's on our radar right now
I think right now we're just really focused on making really great content
got a lot of really exciting stuff lined up uh oh man there's something I really
want to tell you guys about but I guess I can't really do it yet soon soon I
will tell you guys soon but I'm very excited about it all right Dan what else you got for us
sure last one here dear Dan Linus and
Luke and Wan crew my 22 year old autistic brother dropped 120 on Mario
Kart tour last week do you have any tips on how I can help him not be susceptible
to this kind of thing
this is a tough one um it's funny because this I'm having
almost having like a Deja Vu moment because somebody asked me something
recently that was like how do I prevent this
like grown ass person yeah that's that's the problem from doing something yeah
and I was like well there you can't yeah
like from from like like legally morally
like all of these ease
um they are an independent person who
can who can make I think there's some I think there's some layers here their own
decisions did they want to do that
is this like an impulse control problem after the fact they're like I wish I
didn't do this that type of stuff then maybe there's some opportunities to step
in is it their money yeah I mean if it's not their money
remove the card from the account or if it is their money
um but they're going to be reliant on
you now to replace that that things they would
have spent that's where things can get very complicated with family obviously
we don't know much about the dynamic here but like
I would I would Hazard okay can can your
brother afford it is another question that I would be asking so you know if it
if it is if it is his money and he can
afford it then but then yeah you know I I don't know
right because I would want to intervene so in spite of everything we just said
like I would I would want to do something if I saw if I saw one of my
siblings throwing away money at at different
colored pixels that kind of money so I I
it's in a week oh yeah no I I understand
and my assumption oh go ahead
uh my understanding here is not anywhere near
um good enough but
I I believe people on the Spectrum can be very
fixated on certain things sure yeah and maybe they find and and very very high
amount of enjoyment from this and they have the money
if if those if all those things line up then whatever it's an adult making adult
decisions it is what it is but like you were
saying does this now make them reliant on someone else's money sure is this not
their money is this all these other different types of things
um and did they did they want that to be the reality at all like this might be a
situation where they came to this person who sent in the merge message and like
potentially ask them for help we don't know how regular of An Occurrence this
is that too maybe this is something that where this is not the first time that
they've spent you know a hundred plus dollars on uh you know on a mobile game
essentially right ah I mean I I personally
um I I find that adding steps to things is
like really beneficial to make you not do it um like one of the one a money spending
hack that I I know a few people that have done um is they'll they'll um stop carrying
certain cards yeah and just carry cash I
took the Twitter app off my phone yeah I still have Twitter yeah I can access it
on a desktop I could install it again if I really want to access it on a desktop
yeah if I really want to look at something I can I can open the page in a
browser at least I could until they like made that more difficult sick
um but but you add these barriers so maybe just don't let the mobile device
remember your card or if it has to remember your card
uh just remove the card after the transaction
yeah nighttime astronaut says it's predatory from the company I'm a
disability Advocate and I'm neuro spicy we are targeted by ads purposefully
yeah that's um I'm sure that's a thing that's
nasty I'm also totally convinced that's
a thing yeah oh I mean there's really believe it there's no question in my
mind that that's the thing it's just it doesn't change that from a legal
standpoint this is a grown adult and you
can't you you can't tie someone down and
go like no no more Mario Kart tour
yeah but yeah I mean other other than just
other than just here's a yeah here's a weird potential idea sure try to get
them hooked on a a different Mario Kart
that doesn't have Micro transactions that's the problem is it's not as
hooking
mechanisms are not built into those games yeah but they're they're still fun
I know but it's Super Mario Kart 8. it's a great game it's different
yeah I know it's it's different it's not the same thing show some enjoyment play
it play it with them have fun I don't know yeah there is there that's
a good point there isn't a substitute for spending time together yeah so like
maybe maybe I don't know this is this is
possibly not fair and I'm volunteering this person's time but
um that's probably the approach that I would try to if I if I saw that someone
that I knew and cared about was having a toxic relationship with something I
would try to help them go in a different direction but not make them but just
make it voluntary like hey you clearly really like Mario Kart you're playing
this version of it that has gotcha microtransactions that sucks
I'm down to play Mario Kart 8 with you
going to go play that let's get all the unlocks in the game because you can
unlock all these different kite things and wheels and all this kind of stuff
let's focus on doing that let's do it together and then you go play that together and then they get hooked on
that game and it's um potentially a little bit better I
don't know just an idea
it's unfortunate but
I don't know I I don't I don't have a way to solve this I mean I see people
kind of talking three different possibilities in the chat and you know
you've got the uh you know government regulation is going to be one that's
always going to be a controversial a controversial Topic in these things
right because you've got Advocates on the one side saying we need regulation
we need regulation because these companies are just going to exploit
vulnerable people and then you've got people on the other side going look we can't regulate ourselves into a nanny
state if if a grown adult wants to buy a
product or service why shouldn't they be allowed to buy a product or service and
I think there's compelling arguments both ways I don't think this is a simple
black and white issue um and I
I'm reminded of the the news I think this was also this week it was either
this week or last week that neuralink is looking for human volunteers for early
implants yeah and I'm kind of sitting here going
you know these obviously these are going to be grown adults hopefully you know of
sound mind and body who are making the decision to be to to be guinea pigs for
for their experimentation uh should this even be legal and it's like
I guess I mean it's your body but I mean
it's in some parts of the world isn't suicide technically illegal
I don't I don't think there's a what is that what does that mean well I don't
think there's a punishment for it to the person who is dead obviously but it can
affect things like for example um your insurance I know that I don't
know that it's the illegality that would affect that but you know if you kill
yourself you don't get the insurance payout um
yeah uh noodles it says in the chat in the U.S suicide is illegal
it's like okay it was it will put you in jail
yeah it's illegal in the UK too says night pause what does it mean so is it
just an insurance thing because that yeah
apparently it's illegal so the police can get involved without a warrant
that's interesting uh Ian Ian Xmas says
gambling needs to be monitoring control I mean sure but where's the line right
like look how was it gambling look how long it took to regulate like what's the
name of this game again Mario Kart what Mario Kart tour
tour mobile game
super got it oh people are saying it's illegal so that trying so attempting it
can be punished like yeah okay you can
accomplished with that seems stupid I don't know man
so you can be forced to get help um that you know oh okay that's that's
something excessively you're gonna throw them in jail for it like what do you think that's good yeah also if someone
helps you they can be charged with aiding and abetting
okay so I think I'm cool with that turns out there are some good reasons I'm sure
there's I don't know it's a very nuanced topic they're 100 percent
transactions for me in the game yeah I'm not certain if the Mario Kart tour if
the market transactions are just like buying a thing or buying a a dice roll
got it I don't I don't know what they are yeah I'm not sure
all right do you want to give us one more merch message Dan
um yeah sure um let's see what I've got here
hey lld what kind of actions would you
have to take of any if a Mr b-sized Creator wanted to join flowplate
ah I think if a Mr b-sized Creator wanted to join we'd probably have to
beef up the infra just a little bit I would imagine they'd have some special
requests in terms of tools they would want built for engagement With Their
audience that's pretty common yeah as long as they're not too onerous like as
long as there's something that we could sort of try to Fast Track or get on a
road map where they're willing to be a little bit patient
um I I would think at this point not too much
you know don't don't quote me on that right there's there's stuff that we
would need to do but there's solutions that we can Implement that could
solve it like we'd be fine
all right why don't we jump into our next topic Luke you want to pick one
sure give me a sec I was looking to Mario Kart tour stuff
uh
uh do we have the co-pilot thing
we have it oh nice okay well should we do that
should we use it okay so you're still doing stuff okay
well let's let's maybe do that later
oh I see oh cool
no no 1080 is fine oh you keep poking with that I'll talk
through this topic uh on Thursday Microsoft announced Microsoft co-pilot
in Windows which you may have thought they already announced but you may be
thinking about GitHub copilot which was announced in 2021 Microsoft 365 co-pilot
which was announced in March 2023 or Windows co-pilot ever more different
than you know anyways that was announced in May 2023. Microsoft co-pilot in
Windows rather is the unification of the company's disparate chat bot like
services rebranded with a new colorful logo and an actual release date this
Tuesday September 26th finally a release
date on any AI product is fantastic
um the feature will roll out in Windows 11
in its early form accessible Through the Windows plus c key keyboard shortcut
okay I'm not gonna lie I'm actually like very excited to try this right now no
this is this is interesting Dan has a laptop for us because we've had we've
had a lot of it on the floor why is he putting it on the floor I don't want
floor laps it's not I don't like things yeah yeah floor laptop laptops are not
based on movies the movie um the movie of the game
uh as Microsoft revealed when announcing Windows co-pilot copilot can pull data
from a user's calendar email documents
um so nothing from anyone who's using Google for all of those things I guess
anything Microsoft app related to help you answer questions and perform tasks
it can also help you control your desktop itself you can tell it to
arrange Windows change system settings launch specific Spotify playlists way
and much more okay well let's do stuff yeah try to arrange some Windows pull
open some stuff uh I mean there's no apps on here at the back of that laptop
is very distracting yeah I know right uh I don't know how to turn that off
imagine having that in a class I mean I think that's sort of the point
you just piss off the teacher just peacocks super hard yeah just tape over
it wow um I put a new button on your deck there when you want to switch into
the the laptop oh sick okay where is it oh on his yeah
do you want one no no it's fine everybody can have a button they're free
there you go let's see here's two oh oh
there you go you're special okay they're like ducks at the park yeah they're free
you can just take them home like domain names despite the unification
Microsoft's branding is still all over the place concerning commercial
customers who can also consider using Bing chat Enterprise and Microsoft 365
co-pilot the latter of which will be available for Enterprise customers
November first I didn't know that
Enterprise Microsoft 365 copilot is
gonna be very interesting hopefully it's not trash we'll see openai also
announced Dolly three which the company says does a lot better than other modern
text image systems at not ignoring words
in prompts it can also actually generate
text in an image properly as seen here
and then there's a little example that I'm going to jump to
I just feel so empty inside which is amazing for people who have messed with
these things in the past because the text was always just like garberly
no real letters just kind of some weird shape patterns where the text is
supposed to be so having actual text is very
that's a pretty big step to be completely honest
um that's pretty cool that economy fed uh open AIS demo prompts into
mid-journey and compared the outputs and it's pretty close apparently we're gonna
check that out as well uh
uh like this let's go to the beach and find the right
hermit close-up photograph of a hermit crab nestled in wet sand with seafoam
nearby and the details of its shell and texture of the sand accentuated
yeah I don't know if this is a hermit crab I
don't know what a hermit crab looks like to be honest with you
oh okay yeah oh that's from dolly and my
Journey's on the right huh okay I don't know how many examples
there are here we go dancers desire that's a really long
prompt but they actually do look pretty similar
one is just like facing us and the other ones facing away
sheesh photo of a lychee inspired I think
that's how you say that I don't know inspired spherical chair with a bumpy
white exterior and plush interior set against a tropical wallpaper
huh quite similar and I I'm every time I
play around with this stuff or look at it I am just
kind of Blown Away potatoes
we know a thing or two about generating potato images on Dolly we do
um anyways speaking of uh speaking of
potato uh no never mind I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tease that oh wow okay
something potato related that's all I can say the doll E3 uh or sorry dial E3 is in
research preview now and will be available to chat GPT plus and
Enterprise customers in October and will of course be integrated into Bing and
various Microsoft apps and services as well lastly there were new service
surface devices announced all with very iterative upgrades Business Insider and
Windows Central say that this is part of the reason for formal surface Chief
Panos penaz sudden departure this week
after 20 years at the company surface laptop Studio 2
with an Intel 13th gen core i7 h-class
chip various ones I suspect at different price points and RTX 4050 or 4060 Intel
neural processing unit and up to two terabytes of like dedicated storage and
64 gigs of RAM starts at around 19.99. I
say around because they don't specify what chip it is and there's two
different GPU models so I don't know um surface laptop go three pretty much
just internal upgrades same 12.4 inch
screen now has Intel 12th gen in not 13th I guess instead of 11th and starts
at 7.99 surface go 4 for business same
chassis as go 3 Intel Core Intel door
Intel dual core Pentium I got there in
go 3 replaced with quad core Intel n200
marked for business do not have fun with it
it's illegal that's right Riley wrote that right yeah right yeah I assumed I
don't even have the dock open right now but I I I know I don't I don't
technically know that I I just I didn't put it in there oh okay yeah yeah that's
one of them almost certainly Riley um and then last but not least potentially
at least who knows uh surface Hub three some minor upgrades over the Hub 2s
announced in March Hub 3 mod module can
be purchased and installed in existing Hub 2s devices okay should we just start
doing copilot yeah I've been waiting for you to do this this whole time no I'm
ready okay tell me what to have it do do the
Windows organizing this is the last conversation we had well no but I want
to do a couple of interesting stuff okay I think Windows organization open a
browser for me very interesting
hmm uh no thanks can you open a good browser
oh
let's see let's see if it doesn't off of this which
please confirm the action in the dialog box that has appeared
oh I have to click it why would I have to click it
that's weird sure you can confirm
what say open Google Chrome
I don't know why you would ever want to do this instead of just typing in the
start menu well because eventually you would want to interact
with your voice not the keyboard yeah like I don't see I don't see a
voice input right now you could do your own but yeah please confirm the action
in the dialog box that has appeared what are you talking about it's already
he clicked it though he said no thanks and it like grayed out
hello buddy uh okay
um open File Explorer and chrome is not a
good browser yeah I just I the only one I see on there is Edge and chrome yeah
open File Explorer and show me where my uh program files are
is this gonna do anything
I mean yes
yes obviously click it
what grade it out yeah grade it out it looks like it's duplicating
I try well it's grayed out it wasn't grayed out originally all right the file
explorer is now open you can navigate to the program possible it's hallucinating
already I don't want to navigate
to that folder okay well I asked you to
do it and it's defense you're using it in the way that it's not it should work
the way that you're doing it but it's it's clearly not intended to be used
that way I think you should start a new chat let it dump so that it's not gonna
lose click the button properly
don't close that fine you're you're a
bad pilot fine it's just trying to co-pilot but you're not you're not open
File Explorer okay so maybe I just need to maybe I
just need to click it way faster well no you're just typing something new
before you click it yeah it's working well why does it why does that second
dial sure you can confirm the action in
the dialog box that has appeared and you've already done it yeah I've already
done it what are you talking about those problems for sure okay
um show me where my music is
oh I mean theoretically if I have a folder
called music then it should I mean sure I guess so
oh my goodness
um no um where's my music in file explorer wow
this is pretty rudimentary to be honest with you yeah I think you need to start
a whole new thread though because you're you're already hallucinating uh no I
don't okay fine how do I how do I new thread I
don't even see the here maybe up here okay so refresh
all right okay fine also I will I will
say here that this is not the release version
we don't well we don't know that this is a release version or not
are you talking to the stream right now dude oh yeah Dan you might as well just
talk to the students because we're just going to sit here in silence while you
talk to us anyway yeah
hey that's nice okay Tomb Raider is both
a movie and a game
oh my goodness okay but that's just normal co-pilot stuff
it's more of a come on try to try to get
to do cool things open some Windows get it to organize it come on I'd rather
bother you oh my goodness
ah it's not more of one than the other I'm
just gonna start as a video game series in 1996. hmm iconic protagonist Lara
Croft again when I was five
do you think that's an excuse Luke
is this Enterprise if you only get four prompts on free
like Bing this would be useless
using it properly so like who knows if it's useless or not
he's like being antagonistic to the to the poor little I'm not being
antagonistic yes you are it's it's presenting an option yes or no click
these buttons and then you're not clicking it okay fine well they took
they went away they got grayed out because you typed something more I
shouldn't have to interact with my mouse I agree but clearly it's designed that
all right fine so use it properly but I'll just type in what you can you can
criticize that it's it shouldn't work that way you can criticize it it should
it should work off of your texted response but you can also use it
properly at the same time come on Mr reviewer man tell me tell me what you
want me to have it do I've wanted you to have it organize Windows literally this
whole time okay fine open Steam
and open Chrome and why would I want it to do
that and organize their Windows I mean
what what am I even how could it possibly help to do this for me
I don't know whoa yes oh whoa yes oh wow this is yes why
would I need three prompts for this I snapped a window for you you didn't so
it did the it did it all at the same time so the apps weren't actually open
yet yeah I'm the one making this bad Luke thank you that's very helpful no I
at least we've learned something now what did we learn that it sucks we
already learned that we learned that when you click things it actually does stuff so that's pretty cool you didn't
organize the Windows oh this is not how you interact with these things why not
because it's just needlessly antagonistic
oh well it worked smart guy I'm sorry for the confusion I can't
physically It also says it did it for you and then
I click yes and it doesn't do it
I snapped a window before you can snap others beside it
oh steam's open okay uh
can I close can I can I close steam
without it appearing in my taskbar oh I
don't I don't know can it do that for me can it close it to the system tray
I don't know if I'm not signed in so I don't know if it'll behave a little bit
differently here how to close steam without it okay so
just searches for it okay what are fundamental Windows things that it could
do it okay so let's jump up to what it talks about
um okay it can help you control your desktop
itself you can tell it to arrange Windows
change system settings and launch specific Spotify playlists
and much more can I find the original
thing where it lists these features and maybe I can find them more
with over 150 new features
I could see this being super super okay here we go this is what
I've been trying to get to I'm sorry for the misunderstanding but as an AI I
don't have the ability to directly interact with your computer's interface
I can provide instructions and guidance but I can't perform actions on your
computer how did steam just log that's
not true though because it did perform actions on your computer
how did steam just log in
uh what just happened
huh all I had was a login screen
someone scanned the QR someone somebody logged in that's actually pretty funny
um you need to make sure you fully close steam because they could remote in right
okay that's pretty funny though that is
excellent don't ever do that again but that's hilarious
um anyway
oh my God I shouldn't laugh at that uh bad no
um something I have new things to write down that we need to protect anyway but
I can't perform I can't perform actions on your computer you'll need to follow
the steps I provided to remove the chat icon from your taskbar let me know if
you need further assistance so I could see this being super super useful for
people who don't want to dig into the three different control panels that
Windows has now to figure out how to you know change your audio device this is
just clippy try to get it to change like power modes sure
um or or like sleep settings or uh what
happens when you close the lid okay can you uh set my computer to sleep after
five minutes
yeah I think that's basically just gonna be
clippy with chat GPT oh it had to search
for that yeah like why do you have to search for that
sorry I can't do this can you can you start a new chat can you clear this chat
and then try that again I can I I don't think it's going to make a difference so
Luke I don't think it can actually interact with the system basically at all like that's why it needs that manual
prompt every time it allegedly does something for you like open a window the
notes in our dock I'm trying to find this in the official thing but the notes
in our dock say um
it can pull data from a user's calendar email documents anything Microsoft app
related to help you answer perform tasks it says it can help arrange Windows
change system settings and launch a specific playlist did it just do this
okay so it's ridiculous it opened it for you but you have to be the one that
flips the switch now that it didn't open the right thing look at this please
disable Wi-Fi sure would you like me to turn off
Bluetooth for you okay then
it goes I open the devices page in settings well which one is it are you
supposed to do it for me are you supposed to open this window also I
don't have the capability to disable Wi-Fi you can do this by going to the
network settings on your device where suppose I'm a novice user I don't know
where this is why did you give me three different answers
want me to do it for you here do it yourself I can't do that
I don't know man I um that seems pretty bad this seems that seems pretty basic
yeah I want to turn off my Wi-Fi do we have anything
um here does this thing have like McAfee on it or something like is this
pre-loaded with any like junkware oh you know what I bet it has like Candy Crush
or whatever on it all right what's what's the junkware that comes on um on
Windows devices didn't it used to come with Candy Crush uh check out paint
yeah open paint I mean isn't there new paint that has transparency now that's
kind of big news why are we not talking about that online show yeah I don't know
I forgot about it there's a lot of cool things in new paint is this new paint I don't know I don't
think so I mean so I had I had some concerns about us trying this ahead of
time wow this is fun I'm having a good time yeah
okay I drew um
it looks great you start here now you
gotta now you gotta do the use the fill tool to fill in some of those things and
then it becomes Modern Art okay and then you end up here you go so you start at
the house and then you end at work
it's a truck oh
hey it has a little like that's a little Cloud coming out the back and everything
and here's hold on hold on oh fine
details fine details here's you oh
nice nice
yeah anywho sick
um how did you get
the truck is your method of transportation though how did you get to
it oh I don't know what if that just shows the
path that you've taken so far can you save the drawing I made in Ms paint
can you do basically anything
so here's here's my problem
yeah with this is this supposed to be a
Windows update um oops and like I'm going to jump onto
my screen really quick okay new Windows 11 update delivers over 150
new features including bringing the power of copilot to the PC
co-pilot in Windows in preview
paint photos Snipping Tool clip champ Notepad
new Outlook for Windows modernize File Explorer all this other type of stuff we
clearly don't have all these things what did we install just the copilot
preview is that right Dan uh pretty sure this is
like the most bleeding edge version of Windows on the planet right now
um so this has the right but it doesn't have all these other things so we we
don't know how old this version of copilot is we don't know if this is the
version of copilot that they're actually going to be launching and when they do
launch it it's going to be a preview version now I will say given its
performance right there I'm not the most confident in it
um hmm
I I just um would you want it to be able
to do actions without user input well it's not without user input I am
inputting
I mean okay this is something never what if I wrote a script to pretend like this
is my this is why it doesn't do things on your computer because
then it's dangerous right yeah yeah it's going to be dangerous
regardless you could already script those things to happen
yeah it's not like you can do anything in here that you couldn't do in a
Powershell which can run in the background anyway yeah so like what what
are we what are we protecting from here exactly lawsuits
well yeah but if they were going to sue over this they could sue over Powershell
you know what I mean like I just I don't really I I do wonder if this is just you
know the starting point where it's basically chat GPT but you don't have to
go to bing.com which is a benefit I mean
that's something I just don't think we
should say almost anything because we don't know if this is the right version
well what we know is that this is a version that is in development
sure but like that's not the necessarily we're talking about this as if it's the
one that people are gonna get no we have no idea if that's true I'm talking about
this in the terms of how it describes itself right it describes itself as not
being capable of interacting with your computer which was exactly what I wanted
this version of it describes it that way I think that that is a significant
design decision that's not a technical thing that's a design decision so no I
don't think it's likely that that's going to change in the what is it like four days before this is more broadly
available okay but here's the thing the one that they're showing off in the
video Yeah has a mic
this one doesn't sure this is not the right version
sure but I mean again that doesn't address what I said where you can help
me focus and it automatically opens Spotify oh no no it doesn't
so so you have to do
everything it just no it just did it look well here hold on hold on
we haven't actually tried that yet I thought we did no no I was just
bothering you we never actually tried it because I asked it to open stuff then
organize it and what it did was it tried
to use um aerosnap or whatever it's called now
and then It ultimately there's there's more stuff in here that it's doing
without user input hold on hold on hold on let's try let's try it organize my
Windows here we go
uh yeah I would sure
so yeah yeah this is not how it works in their video
isn't it a marketing video but like it's
I I don't we're using a version that is not the
one that is going to be released do you think it's really going to be significantly changed differences
between the two apps we cannot say this is legit we will get destroyed for this
this is BS this version came out today it doesn't matter nobody said it's legit
Luke we said this is what Microsoft has made available right now this is an
extreme preview build yeah there's like four layers of extremes completely
irrelevant because one that is clearly not this version because it has
functionality that we can see like the mic button is being released in a couple
days and we're talking about one that is now already clearly old
I am mad you guys don't see the problem with this no not at all oh my God not
even a little bit goofballs balls they released this today so what
so why would we not talk about it this is not the news article that we're
addressing so but this is what we so we read out a
news article with talking points and then talk about something completely
different I mean okay can I draw can I make an intelligence secret uh no I
won't name a certain brand uh LTT Store releases a new shirt well they used
American Apparel shirts like seven years ago so let's review an American Apparel
shirt but that's not comparable at all it's like if it's like if a game
developer announced an upcoming game and announced a release date for it and
showed a showed a trailer for it and then like you know two days later or
whatever put up a preview build of it and people played the preview build and
talked about it that's what this is there is nothing
wrong with that they didn't have to make this preview build available
this is not pirated this isn't a leak this is something Microsoft made
available I don't think it is proper form to read a news article about
something and then open up something that is clearly not that thing
chat GPT 4 in chat says Linus knows he's wrong he's just messing with Luke no I I
I legitimately don't I think it's completely valid if a company releases a
preview to use it and talk about it 100 percent
they don't have to do that in in my opinion this is a preview build of what
is going to be released on Tuesday and
they exist in the preview builds for you know stability testing for The Wider
Windows you know Lucas right Luke is
right that we don't know that yeah but there are certain things that we can uh
that we can anticipate based on what we're looking at right now and they
might they might turn out to be different and I would I would love for this to be very different but it's clear
to me right now from uh from a design standpoint that this is meant to be more
of a um but I think it's the world because
we're saying things like it cannot do this thing yeah right now it can't right
but it they are currently showing in
their stuff that it can so we need to be clear when saying that I don't know that
might be FNB it could be so we need to be clear when saying that
that this preview view build can't do this yet sure but I can't test this
thing and maybe we'll know when it releases on Tuesday or whenever it's releasing
because like look at look at this
turn on dark mode searching for the right action generating answers dark
mode turned on so like
can it actually do that I don't know from our testing can we tell that it
can't do that no because this is not the same version
but this is what they released today
it's just so irrelevant yeah so look it can turn on dark mode did it actually do
it I don't think it did click yes let's see
right but you didn't have to click yes on their thing there you go there's your dark mode so it can change settings but
the dark mode on their thing doesn't like explode over the screen all
beautiful like I mean there's no way that that is going
to be a feature of anything that's definitely not a thing so it's cool
though it's clear that it's been judged up a little bit yes and what will land
in however many days until it comes is
probably somewhere in between that and
this yeah and I would say
I would anticipate it will be closer to this
and that and that is in my opinion totally fair to say sure we just have to
make it very clear very clear so we are
not talking about the thing that's in the news article that we're addressing
the thing that's releasing around the corner we're talking about this preview
build that we have that is clearly not the same one because there's no mic etc
etc etc if they release it on Tuesday and there's no mic
that would be hilarious sure but we
can't actually say that that's like gonna be a thing or not look the only
thing that I'm taking away from this is that it's pretty clear that the
usefulness will be fairly limited oh yeah probably it's it's very clear that
if this is anywhere near where they were
at any point in time that was not a year
ago that this is it's going to be quite
Limited yeah so that's that's my only
point I think that's a pretty I think that's a pretty realistic assessment you
could be I'm not even say you could you
could be right because all you're saying is that we don't know for sure and
that's fair enough but it could be entirely different it could also be
literally exactly the preview build that we just tried it could also be like with
no change yeah absolutely we just don't know I'd be surprised if it doesn't have
a mic because to me what I'm seeing right now is this is this is clippy that
I can interact with with my voice and it
will be some combination of chat GPT and
maybe being able to do some stuff for me but its utility is going to be really
limited like I can already tell from that organize my Windows thing that
that's not going to be how that works how on Earth would it know which window
I want to make big in the top left quadrant or yeah I mean that's the other
thing too is like aerosnap I I really can't remember the new branding for it
so I'm just going to call it Arrow snap forever that's my commitment how could it possibly know if I want one
thing to take up the entire half of the screen and then I want the other two in
quadrants it wouldn't it would need user
interaction for that so the version that we see here honestly looks a lot more
realistic where it takes one of my Windows snaps it to the side and kind of
asks me to ask me to select another one and actually kind of useful for people
that aren't used to Windows snapping because it can get a little weird a big
issue I have with this though is the number of different ways that I'm
expected to interact with this computer it's slow I either need to
use my voice which I think you have to
click the mic to reprompt the voice every time I think unless I well I know
that Windows has had voice prompt support in the past although when they
killed Cortana I don't know if that died like can you can you say hey Bing and
have your mic wake up on your computer I don't even know I've never had a reason
to bother setting that up if it even exists so I I have to activate a voice
prompt somehow which means I either have
to touch my keyboard to hit a hotkey or
I have to interact with my trackpad or my mouse and click on something
I then need to say something out loud I
then need to wait around for a data center somewhere to receive that that
audio file because they're probably not doing the processing locally
I then need to wait for it to searching searching figure out if it can do
something and I then need it to apply it
um it feels oh right and then in order to
apply it in many cases I'm either going to have to basically do it myself or I'm
going to have to click on something or otherwise can confirm you need to
click on the yes is like anytime you're I I okay I've I've had
I've had a lot of people point out to me that I don't use uh Ctrl shift escape to
open task manager and my response to that is my hand's already on the mouse
my hand wasn't on my keyboard the fastest tool is the one that's already
in your hand in a lot of cases and if my hands are already on the keyboard you
know by all means Ctrl shift Escape let's go right if your hands are on the
keyboard because of typing what you just typed
so it's yeah the little see I really
hope that the build that we get has an easier way
for me to just press enter like enter confirm enter to confirm or or maybe
yeah maybe just I don't know if Escape for no is good or not but maybe enter
for confirm and backspace for no
ah I don't know because in a text box those
both already kind of have meanings no I know yeah it would have to only work if
you haven't typed anything yet and then the second you type anything both those
controls go away
here's the only way I've thought of it working here's the last thing I want to
know about this preview build
okay okay all right what was I looking for
the other day oh no oh no yeah this isn't going to be
any better oh no really this it Sleep Country Canada
falls under best match and change when the PC sleeps when
plugged in is number three are you
kidding me you guys web results really shouldn't show up in there
I hate it so much or they fine fine maybe they do but if I search for just
sleep what are the freaking odds what
are the odds Microsoft that I am looking
for Sleep Country Canada instead of power sleep and battery
settings also can I can I try some oh no sorry
not that one can I try something really quick here can I can I open these in a
new tab I want to know what the difference is between all these
different things what are these Okay so we've got change
from the PC sleeps when plugged in okay so that's power and battery hold on
sleep okay we've got oh they're different they're different
genius okay we've got choosing energy efficient sleep settings okay so it's
just all the different things and it just highlights it
okay where'd one of the other ones go oh
power sleep and battery settings okay so that's just this that's just two
names for the same things same thing sure
okay fine good enough
my mattress anywhere else oh no everyone's just talking about Sleep
Country no I'm not gonna lie the second you said that that jingle immediately
um I'll say this there's a lot of good reasons to buy a mattress somewhere else
and we'll just leave it at that God
uh talk about one you land Center uh
yeah sure I I I have had an extremely
challenging week um but also an extremely exciting week
did you realize that the first video
about the land Center at the at the at
the new house can I even call it a new house anymore it has it's been three
years it's got some scuffs on it like it's it's not new new that's for sure uh
it's still it's still great and I still love it and I'm you know I'm really excited about all the things that we've
done with it and actually there's still still lots of plans but I don't know if
it's new anymore so whatever my house um the first video that we did unveiling
the one you gaming systems that we were gonna put in the rack to have like super
super high gaming density in the wreck
that was almost a year ago
since then I have had laptops that I
borrowed from work set up at all those stations yeah 11 months ago this is my
new gaming PC one upcs for my new house part one that design completely thrown
away completely gone then it gets even
better uh we then did a follow-up video a couple months ago I think it was where
we unveiled the all-new design
we ran into some problems it was validated quite well by the team
super proud of the team you know great job
um but they didn't try a fiber optic
DisplayPort cable
so what happened was the layout of that
system had the GPU on the inside which is totally a thing especially for
compute oriented rack mount machines where they'll just yeah they'll just
like have a bunch of gpus lined up in there they don't have display out anyway so who cares these do have display out
but they had a solution to that we were going to have uh just little
pass-through cables that and just have a um
uh like a female jacket the back of the case to a male going into the GPS
fancier than you would have needed to do really yeah so pretty sick oh yeah or
just well a pass-through just a grommets looking good that's rough because all of
a sudden what you're doing is way better I'm just saying like this is not an
impossible to overcome problem yeah that's fine okay there's a couple of
reasons that it was um the way the internal layout was there
was no there was no space with like the power supply we needed and the GPU and
the cable coming out of it like it actually didn't fit in the width and
then number two was that if you ran something through a grommet in a rack
mount you'd have no way to pull it out
without unless you had a bunch of slack at the back and you had it like perfect
I have one of those things where you have like the coiled cable on like a
yeah like a track it's a bad solution like yeah so anyway
um so that design had to be substantially changed because all of a
sudden we couldn't have the GPU inside the case
so uh this was a really good idea I can't remember if this was Jake or
Antoine but uh someone came up with the idea of okay we'll hold on a second
why don't we just borrow an idea from some other GPU servers and put the gpus
at the front have front i o because I mean track Mount right you can have yep stuff in
the back stuff I mean honestly if I thought of it I would have put the networking in the front too why on Earth
why on Earth do the vast majority of
rackmount network switches have all their ports at the front and the vast
majority of rack mount systems have all the ports I actually don't understand
this to be clear some do some do have ports at the front yeah they definitely
don't all they definitely don't all and the the vast majority of networking is
in the front of the rack that's a pretty good question and I'm sure there's
reasons for it because you know just having everything water falling down the
rack to the systems at the front it's not necessarily better than running everything around to the back anyway but
I get it I get it I get it but um the point is that we borrowed that idea and
we went to roll everything out and there were some big challenges it turns out
that having um five different people build all five
of the systems results in five different sort of types of mistakes that can get
made so I ended up spending somewhere in the neighborhood of between like 15 and
18 hours over the span of the Friday night the weekend and then a couple of
nights this week putting all of the finishing touches on these systems there
were some extra standoffs in one of them that was really awkward because I had to
reposition the reset switch and the system was on and I was just
plugging in a header which doesn't matter and the board flexed more than I
expected because there wasn't a standoff in a spot where there should be one
and it shorted out on a standoff that wasn't supposed to be there so that was
a really scary moment fortunately it survived
um but I also man I finally I did the works okay I finally did it I custom
terminated cables for every system in my rack they are exactly exactly oh my gosh
the right length um the water cooling to the pool is in
oh wait for all the one used to oh yeah oh there are six systems running off it
now my personal machine all five of the one use right now right this very moment
now all those systems wow that's actually pretty cool are cooled by the
pool um all the cable management at the back is
such that I can have if I need to perform maintenance on a system I can
have it unplugged out of the Rack in about 30 to 40 seconds
and I've temporarily because this is something hopefully I won't be doing a
lot of but I've got a radiator pump res combo and tubing whips with quick
connects sitting on a bench I can have it on that bench and plugged into those
in about another 30 seconds and I can have it I can have it booted in well
under two minutes to do any kind of diagnostic anything because I ran into
some weird issues out of the five systems two of them wouldn't update the
BIOS just I had one that was just resetting
every time I tried to do it when it was in the rack and running over display I
mean you never know theoretically Optical DisplayPort is
totally transparent to the system but you know I don't know that but the
display would just turn off sometimes when I took it out and I put it on the
bench it just immediately worked and the and the
screen never flickered or went away so yeah you you just you want to eliminate variables
you know when in doubt when something's going wrong you just take out
any potentially unusual circumstances
around the system put it on a bench you plug in just a
keyboard just a monitor and power and
that's it nothing fancy I actually want the most whenever I'm troubleshooting I
don't want anything good I want the most basic old thing that
just works yeah that's a long time there give me DVI all the techies would go
around with uh PS2 keyboards
because there's like a huge chance that your USB keyboard wasn't going to work
in BIOS or whatever 100 it's kind of funny
um man there's gonna be there's definitely going to be multiple videos
coming so we've got the one where we finally show the actual final build of
these machines uh we've got one where uh
we do the plumbing for the whole pool water cooling and we show um
what's the order of these videos can be released in there's been some debate internally okay
I think right now
building a final final underscore three
underscore final for real this time system is coming next okay and then
plumbing and uh so Plumbing the house
and then Plumbing final State all five of them into it yeah is coming next and
then I actually need a bit more time to do a more thorough thermal investigation
so I had all five of the land systems
running for Mark simultaneously which means at about 320 330 watts per
3080 they have 3080s in them just because they are a banging deal and
I wanted to go EVGA one last time yeah EVGA doesn't have 40 series
I also said I wouldn't go for these series and I was like you know what
EVGA one last time so all of them have EVGA
xc3 3080s in them or something like that so that's about 320 watts each times
five so with the CPUs as well we're looking at about 2 000 Watts now here's
the thing Alex and Jake talked me into using a
heat exchanger instead of doing just the
pool Loop going directly into the systems and from look guys from from day
one I've known that they are right about that but I think you guys know that I
like to live on the bleeding edge and what the heat exchanger isn't
is living on the bleeding edge because you're going to be giving up some
performance okay a heat exchanger operates most
efficiently when the difference in temperature between the fluids that are
flowing through it is very high
but you gotta remember one of my goals for this project is to cool the room
so it is actually not great for me even
if it's fine for the system to have the coolant on the room side be 10 degrees
higher than the pool yeah
so I think it is possible that post
payoff with the heat exchanger might come out I might figure out how to
fly a little closer to the Sun and run the pool and just to just to make sure
you guys understand um it's not pool water pool water yeah
there's no salt or chlorine it's a loop
that is embedded it's just it's just plastic tubing that's embedded in the
walls and the floor of the pool so it
just loses heat over that in immense
distance to the concrete of the pool into the ground
um this is really cool it was like super late it was like five in the morning or
something like that and I was like okay so this is neat I can see the
temperature difference with the thermal camera of the water going out of the
house and coming back in so obviously it
is losing some heat out there and we reached an equilibrium point where the
uh inside temperature I think was ugh I'm gonna get some of this wrong so
there's going to be a video and and we'll get all the details right in that
but um somewhere between eight and nine degree Delta between the inside loop and
the outside Loop but what I didn't know was where is the heat being lost
because the run is far like it's is it all I think you just
said this but is it all copper piping there's no copper oh it's all plastic oh
okay yeah so it's a mixture of PVC and
um think it's PEX I'm not sure exactly what
the stuff they use for like in-floor heating is but like that red stuff that
they embed in the in the floor for like in-floor heating it's just the opposite
of that it's in floor well it's in floor heating the pool but in floor cooling
the water so anyway um so what okay there you go packs so
what I was thinking was
wait there's an access hatch out there what if I take the thermal camera
outside and go right next to the pool and to my delight even though it is so
far like we discovered this back when we did whole room water cooling we weren't
actually dissipating any of the flipping heat outside because we were just
shedding all of it inside the room with the copper tubing and I thought I'd have
the same problem even though it's plastic obviously it dissipates some heat otherwise in-floor heating wouldn't
work right yeah but even though it was small there was a
difference in the temperature of the water going into the walls of the pool
and coming out of the walls of the pool
works I actually think
like I I actually think it freaking works
which is so exciting um yes Bots and floor plane shots is 90
degree Delta is significant yeah that's big yeah but what that ah and what that
means is that the room is not that cool yeah also I uh
there was a there was a fundamental flaw in the plan
because from the start I said look I want to cool down this room
but but
um what I didn't really account for was
that the vast majority of the heat that I would be removing with this system was
net new heat
all the switches and like nvrs and the
servers I'm not going to water cool like the hard drives in my server yeah all
that heat is not getting dumped into the water
and so all the systems that are dumping heat into the water are being added to
the room so the good news is at least you're not increasing yeah yes yeah it's
not substantially harder yeah but it's very clear to me that in addition to
what I've got going on in there now I'm gonna have to add like a radiator door
or even just a janky radiator plumbed to
the pool water just like I had before to
just take hot air in that hot corner of
the room right behind the rack just
said you live in Canada if you want to cool the room uh just put in a window
one problem it's in like the yeah yeah
it's well it's not but it also the there's no window going in yeah let me
put it that way there we go no window going into it so issues there
um and then two that's actually a huge problem in BC is a lot of our housing
was built with no air conditioning in mind at all or just cooling in mind at
all and now the summers are getting like really unsustainably hot and it's like
actually a huge problem yeah so many people are are putting in uh move the
stupid heat exchanger outside no no that doesn't help that doesn't help because
it's there's there's still like the tubing in the reservoir and and all that
like it's it it's not a bad idea but no
the heat exchanger is going to stay inside for also for maintenance the
other thing too is that a huge part of the point of this was I didn't want to
waste the Heat yeah I'm paying for the heat anyway
right when you power a computer you're paying for heat so if you could do
something useful with it then you might as well and obviously I you know I what
what I'm Gonna Save like 20 bucks on like the heating bill for the pool
50 bucks a month probably probably not even that much like but yeah maybe maybe
I saved 20 bucks on the pool heating bill or something like that but 20 bucks
is 20 bucks that by a bunch of months yeah it was more it was more just like a
proof oh I mean I'll never make back what I spent on the implementation of this no if it wasn't for Content but it
would make no sense but it's cool and
the thing is that you don't have to do it like this I think a lot of people
watch our videos and kind of go that's
totally impractical nobody would ever do it like that and it's like yeah I know
but but you could but you could do it like kind of like Pimp My Ride yeah like
I remember uh when when we did uh Taran uh old Taran not new Taran when we did
old terran's extreme Tech upgrade he had kind of a janky version of
essentially what I'm doing where I have my system connected to fiber optic
cables in a different room right he just like but he just had copper cables and
he just had it like running under his door but it achieves the exact same thing it
was so cool because I was like hey hey that's that thing that we made that
video about but done for like
23 dollars instead of you know 500 or you know
whatever it costs for a bunch of fiber optic cabling and uh
uh and you know in some cases having to have like a contractor run it or you
know digging around in your crawl space or like um like what ant venom did
yeah when he essentially did whole room water cooling but just put it in his
basement where it was a much shorter run and where he didn't have to have
something outside that could you know hazardously fall off of a roof at some
point which never happened no miraculously I got to it before it fell
down that was not good craftsmanship what happened with that roof mount
that's Linus what plan is for winter
um okay so I think we're gonna look into
whether it makes more sense to drain the
pool to winterize it or um
or just run it at a really low temperature like I think I've heard that
if you just run it at like 10 degrees or 5 degrees or something
like that that's that's actually pretty good it has a it has a cover like it has
a uh like a not a lid but it but it has a cover which apparently helps with
efficiency like flipping a lot yeah
um I am a little bit worried about like dew point and con condensation
um however the heat exchanger might be an advantage then so here here's
something I don't know what I do know is that as you go you know a couple meters
underground the temperature is basically like kind of fixed year round and that's
one of the big reasons that geothermal heating and cooling works so well
because you can attach a heat pump to it and you can basically extract heat from
the ground or um put heat into the ground and it's
it's Limitless in its capacity both ways
because it basically is this fixed temperature kind of year round but what
I don't know is whether that applies to
two meters down in a pool where the
dudes kind of has outside air exposure props so probably not but then if
there's water in it but then if that water is heated a bit or something yeah
I'm not sure I'm not sure exactly where your where you're dumping most of the
heat to because on the one side of the tubes you've got the water and then on
the other side of the tubes you've got the Earth
so where's the where's the Heat going it's gonna basically you know path of
least resistance yeah probably probably some both ways but I don't know where
the bulk of it is and so I basically my
plan and this is a very Linus plan is to
keep an eye on it as the temperatures fall and um
just react see how that goes yeah I'm definitely going to put antifreeze in it
I don't want it to freeze out there you know so I'm just gonna I'm just
gonna go ham I I know like in the ocean
from like scuba diving I'm sure you've experienced this the further down you go
the colder it gets um
but I don't I don't know if the pool is really deep enough to have much of that
property I don't know I have no idea I don't know
and I don't know how much of that changes when you cover the pool because a lot of that happens from how much
sunlight is able to penetrate the water so if you're covering the pool and it
becomes zero anyways I don't know how much impact that has
because the water is going to churn to a certain degree
so I don't know not sure yeah I don't know I mean it could be it could be that
if I do ultimately turn to my direct
pool cooling system that I might have to
have like uh like a valve yeah yeah so that in the winter I'm actually using
the heat exchanger just to make sure that I don't you know run zero degree or
five degree freaking water into my rack and then end up with a bunch of
condensation in it yeah yeah it's interesting yeah it's not a bad
idea actually yeah okay okay speaking of
not bad ideas I have another idea because I was sitting here thinking hey
hold on a second in the winter do I really want to put this heat outside
I mean it get like kind of you know it's it's fine okay so you're gonna need like
a series hold on just hold on I'm gonna get there you know kind of like you know
obviously if we do keep the pool filled then it'd be better to like you know
have a little bit of Heat going in there that's not burning gas for no reason but
then okay hold on hear me out new pitch there's a fireplace in the living room
that we don't use and is still not even hooked up properly because you know
contractor things uh yes
so I pitched to Yvonne okay we create this motorized or like we
have like like fans that blow little like pieces of like red and orange and
yellow plastic to make it kind of look like a little fire and then in the back
of the fireplace I just have a radiator with fans on it that just blow server
room heat into the living room all winter
huh it's not as stupid as it sounds because
get this the original plan for the server room was to run through these
computer sorry you should get one of those like kind of crappy you see stupid
commercials for them all the time but it's like a fan but the fan blades are
screens and when it spins it creates an image yeah so it's it's a fan blowing
the air and the fan that's blowing the air has flames on it yeah
so we have these tubes that go from the server room to the side of the house
we were gonna use that to run down to the pool but then the the other
contractor the much worse one forgot to run two of those tubes
so there was supposed to be four two for the solar hot uh hot and cold and then
two for the server room hot and cold well they only ran the two so we had to
use those two for the solar solar heating yeah yeah and then we had to
find another path for the pool one or for the uh the server room one so it
went through that conduit that existed back when the original owners of the
house had wanted to put pool equipment in the basement and then that's
apparently not best practice anymore so it's outside in a shed but anyway
um so we have those tubes running they happen to run almost right under the
fireplace in the living room so I even already have the tubes all we
have to do is put some holes in the ceiling and find them
ah holes in the theater room ceiling no problem
life approval Factor 10 out of 10. because it's the theater room so she
doesn't care yeah she shouldn't chat she probably wouldn't care about that anyway
um aborno says I've always wanted to use my
racks excess heat to feed a 3D printed closure see this is what I'm talking
about
just uh yeah no Yvonne Yvonne did not
approve the radiator in the fireplace
yeah my like first thought was like just put a TV in front of it and put like uh
you know the like screen of a of the
Yule Log fire on it I was like well that would kind of stop sort of all the
airflow and also superheat a TV
which doesn't sound great yeah yeah no the whole the whole point is that it's
it's supposed to be a radiator that kind of looks like it it doesn't need to look
like fire it just needs to look fire so we could just paint it red
like Dyson fans work uh all those like
air blade ones or whatever yeah I think
work is a strong word for how they something but sure I've never are they
bad they're they're very expensive and they're
really not very effective compared to just spinning blades it's in its and
it's vacuum with pressurized output is
that how it works I forget I've never actually known that's just what I've
assumed if you could use that same type of system and just have a bit of a like
panel Gap maybe that could work I don't know hmm
interesting I mean yeah it's it's not it's not happening either way it's just
it's just I don't know I I just I was I I became infatuated with the idea of
utilizing waste heat for something yeah
yeah that's the that's the bottom line yeah seems cool so you know if there was
if there was some way that you could transport the heat from your computer to
somewhere where you don't have to feel it or that better yet you could use it
in some way I just think that's super cool like I um
okay I didn't realize this but in some houses there is a there's a loop that
just has a separate pump on it that moves water around so that in key places
uh like the the main like regulation
ensuite bathroom you open up the hot water tap and it
like has hot water right away because it just constantly has hot water I I had no
idea that was even a thing so in the in the main bathroom in our house that was
that was installed by the previous owners I'd never heard of that before
like in our old place it took like a minute sometimes for the the hot water
tap to be hot um so you know okay what if I could use my
waste heat to like heat that stupid Loop that is just burning stupid gas for no
stupid reason instead of like so even in the summer is what this is what I'm
trying to say even in the summer there are potential uses for for Waste heat
there's there's sometimes times when you might need heat for something but
the problem with a computer is that you
know back to what I said about the heat exchanger where part of the challenge is that the difference in temperature is
not very high like the one that we're using I think is is rated for its
capacity at like it's also many tens of degrees Delta between the two sides
unless you mine or fold uh it's also
going to be very inconsistent so you you wouldn't necessarily want to use it for
something or you would not want it to be the only solution for something that's
like you're actually going to care about yeah so like that that causes some
issues as well if it is going to be something you're
going to care about you'd have to have backup systems or whatever else yeah
really
I'm surprised you didn't do insta hot on every spot no that sounds that sounds
expensive and just totally unnecessary I mean for
me it's it's less about the cost and more about just kind of the wastefulness
of it I don't think that's really necessary if that hadn't already existed
um there's no way I would have installed something like that I think I can wait 30 seconds for hot water then again
this is an interesting question what's more wasteful the water that you just
the cold water you just dump down the sink while you wait for hot water or
keeping that water I'm actually not sure I do not know the answer to this but I
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all right oh it's time to do three merch messages
okay before we do that we should probably talk about the new item this
week yeah Luke yeah I didn't let him look at it before the show okay okay you
can you can play with it now what drives me nuts about this is I'm I'm gonna have
to buy one for my girlfriend or should kill me
because she's going to want to match them I know right
cruel you've forced so many purchases onto
people with this I know right I'm putting mine on too you're gonna put it
on well yeah yeah of course oh does it go like over look at a match for that I
mean it can it can I've never I've never had a onesie
technically I would say or generally I
would say um no I wouldn't wear clothes under it it's definitely nice and soft and
comfortable okay you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna go I'm going down full send
yeah I'm going down to underwear I mean they can't tell I could just be miming I
could just be miming what I'm pretending to do right now Dan want to hit me with
the merch message while I get uh changed I kind of like see sure wherever I can I
think you can no it hurt my eyes yeah I mean yeah you do you do whatever works
for you yeah but I'm I'm going onesie I'm going to be comfortable for
windshield after dark today okay uh
hi lld heavy when Friday question after
the computer store video how did the logistics team feel when the truck came
back and what's the plan for all that stuff now that it's in inventory okay so
I have multiple multiple answers for that first of all uh Logistics not
impressed um but that's nothing compared to how
unimpressed accounting and procurement were
um it turns out that you know without
getting flagged for all kinds of you know auditing
um doing all the reporting for something
like this is is very time consuming and very complicated I mean we're still
really glad we did it um Keith was even aside from what he said in the video
just you know thrilled with the whole thing I mean it's uh this is stock that
you know for you know whatever he might have said in the video about his his uh
his bills don't buy those people were
still interested in this stuff I mean I think he knew he was never getting rid of any of this stuff for any dollars let
alone you know anywhere near full full sticker
um which you know ultimately I did pay I paid a lot more than what stickers
should have been for a lot of those items um
so you know we're still glad we're glad we did it it was it was a really cool
idea I've had actually I've had quite a few people ask me like where did it come
from I was at the dentist um and I had to meet my family for lunch
and um
anyway I had to meet my family for lunch and I didn't have the car so I had to
walk to the restaurant and I passed it and I was like yeah man shops like this
had like how does this how does this still exist you know how is it how is
this how does this work yeah you know what are these things on the Shelf why
are they there what's the story behind every you know archaeological PC item on
this shelf and um I figured you know what the best well you know would be
really cool um is if someone just came in here and
bought all this stuff so that they could get rid of it and they could have new
stuff and I was like oh I'm someone um so that happened over a year ago I I
thought it was about six months I told Keith I was like yeah I poked my head in
like six months ago and he's like oh I would have thought I would notice that like I I watch your channel I know who
you are and I was like hold on a second maybe it wasn't six months because it
was when I used to go to that dentist near there and I've done two
appointments at my new one and they're at least six months apart so it must
have been over a year ago so I so I popped my head in and was like oh yeah
we should do this and then Tanner reached out to him six months ago oh
yeah yeah so that six month timing makes no sense yeah so Tanner reached out to him six months ago and then
intentionally ghosted him so that he would have no idea that we
were actually doing it so so he basically vetted the guy made sure he
thought he'd be camera ready made sure he'd be okay with us you know coming in
and taking over his store for the day and then was like
radio silence so that it could be both okay and
pre-approved but also a surprise uh so
super cool I forget what the original question was
um oh yeah Logistics how'd they feel about it so anyway really glad we did it
but there's definitely some been some
challenges to overcome and I think this Saga is far from over we have some ideas
for what to do with the stuff I think we've got some video Concepts like I
think it'd be super cool to do a video just building a computer out of my hall
um I also was oh man hold on I've got I've got some ideas that I just like
jotted down in the middle of the night and emailed to myself one sec
so much of what happens in my brain just gets emailed to myself because that's
the only way that I know how to function uh uh I guess someone saw when I stood
up they said can confirm lukewarriors ldt underwear I actually wear no other
kinds yep I wear only altitude I thought
you're going to stop it oh no oh man no no no that's when I sleep has this for a
video concept now you have a onesie yeah we go through and play a little game
where I try to guess the eBay listing
price of all of it combined oh no and then someone actually adds it up and we
see how close I can get see like how hosed you got yeah because
I'm pretty sure I watched the video I'm pretty sure I'm pretty opposed
there's a lot of things in there where he was like oh this amount and I was
like
okay no I can't reveal this one because it might ruin it
um but what about that
or
that's pretty good yeah I don't know that might be pretty good
um oh video title he told me this was indestructible I disagree for that
laptop and we basically just like kind of do uh like a how much does it take
yeah to get it to a point of being destructible because like the thing's
not particularly no offense to Keith's
pricing model um not particularly valuable at this
point in time yeah so I think if we were to if we were to just you know run some
generally speaking I'm I'm opposed to destruction of working Hardware
um it's it's sort of against the principles of our Channel but I think I could make an exception for an
indestructible laptop I'd be an instruction test sort of thing is that a
challenge total leak in Floatplane chat said ask
some of the younger staff what the items are
that's so depressing and I'm gonna write it down now it's really good I think
that's really fantastic um try to get or like try to get them to
even like install some of them stuff like that
just ask them what they are try to get them to actually like use them or
install them or do things like that
I think that'd be pretty good that's freaking hilarious all right so I mean
honestly I could spend the entirety of next week just making follow-up content
but then the problem is that like what about you know other videos I feel like
people might feel like we're milking it a bit but also all these concepts are
really good like they're just good videos it doesn't matter that they're like a sequel to
something that was successful I I don't know I just
it's also just a great video like I didn't realize I watched it and then
when I was done I was like smiling like the whole time because yeah it was it
was heartwarming but also just hilarious and like there's a lot of interesting
and whatnot but I didn't realize it was freaking 34 minutes
I added the gambling I didn't realize that until now four o'clock the night
before the shoot oh that was a great idea I was like Tanner we need that made
it a lot better we need a way to keep this engaging throughout we can't just
like watch me get quoted prices and put items in a bin for yeah you know at that
time we were aiming for like 15 to 20 minutes for the video okay okay what can
what can we do to spice this up a little
bit okay games of chance um
swing by the dollar store in the morning just get anything that you could
conceivably turn into a game of chance so like the Pull the Rope one sure or
like you know the the custom custom dice the pudding the crappy darts yeah
exactly oh my goodness they were awful there's more footage of them being awful
um we've got one Floatplane exclusive up already with extra footage from the
from from that video and then uh there
will hopefully be more actually we've got two videos up we have one
um that's from the shoot and then we have a second one that is logistics
receiving everything so if you want to see firsthand uh what that was like oh
yeah unloading the tech shop wow I didn't see this yeah and then I think
there's probably going to be more at
some point but uh that's not a guarantee I've got to talk to the the social team
about what they have going on uh oh yeah
wait why is this hello oh right right right right exclusives have their own
tab now uh behind the scenes unloading the tech shop yeah so the first thing we
see is is I think like callanan being like um okay someone on the main account
has watched this already a brother brother here's my stuff
just ridiculous completely ridiculous
oh man oh wow uh Community response to
this one is extremely overwhelmingly positive that's awesome nice
uh what was the question again I don't know my mind is so fried this week team
feel when the truck came back right what's the plan for all the stuff now
that you have it yeah yeah so a lot lots of different plans I uh oh right one
idea we had and tell me if you think this is a good idea was to we never do
like signed merchandise I think we've done it a couple times
with Lambo stuff yep but other than
sometimes with giveaways too but not not purchasable other than that we've never
really done it and I I had someone
internally pitch to me hey what if we
what if we sell the items
as just a signed item and then it's kind
of like a random crap shoot what you're gonna get
so most people will probably get a cable or something
but some people will get a monitor or a Xeon server or a 3080
so you're a TV you're making a real life loot box yeah
I don't know what do you think I have no idea is that is that stupid or is it
smart because it'll be nowhere near what we
paid just to be very clear this is not some kind of like ingenious money making
scheme I suspect we walked out of there with somewhere in the neighborhood of
like 300 to 700 items so even if it was
like 25 bucks or something like that for for
a signed piece of this video or whatever
um but what what would that work out too let's say let's say I think I think you
should decide the price okay chill uh I think you should decide the price after
you figure out what the eBay value actually was oh
interesting and then we base it on the eBay value
yeah that's not an average out the eBay value I don't know if we're actually
going to do that video though because like it's a lot of work a lot of work
actually a ton of work more importantly I don't know how interesting that
content is it feels like a part of a video instead
of it feels like a short it's a ton of video and it feels like a part of a
video yeah or it's a ton of work and it feels like part of a video
um donate to extra life
could be an easy way to just like kind of get rid of it because I don't think
we want this stuff sitting around forever well see that's the thing is right now
it is vary in the way yeah yeah the bigger
issue is not unloading it the bigger issue is walking around it right now
um yeah I don't I don't know I don't know so okay if there's 500 items and we
said it's okay it's 25 bucks for a signed piece of this video that would be
12 12 000 which is a fraction of what we
paid and I think probably kind of both a
realistic um
actual value for that stuff
um and uh
anyway uh yeah that's the main thing I think that's probably a fairly realistic
actual value for that stuff like there is some expensive stuff in there like
there's there's more than one 30 series graphics card and stuff like that but
the vast majority of it is basically I mean the distribution will probably be
pretty similar to what you would actually get from a loot box
yeah yeah probably most of it's cables
I'm really concerned about how to ship because right now we're not really set
up to just ship random stuff like we're not an eBay store so we don't just have
a bunch of like those expanding foam bags things yeah yeah we don't just have
packing penis like nothing we sell on the store is really fragile and it all
comes in its own individually packaged boxes so a lot of the time you'll see
the like the the main the main carton that has smaller boxes in it won't have
a ton of packing material in it because I mean what this is going to break
inside its box I mean I'm sure I'm sure
a courier somewhere is up to the challenge but generally speaking it doesn't really happen
yeah we'll pay more than 25 for the Mac 4G
Mac G4 Cube well no that's the whole point though yeah you won't get to pick
if you get the G4 Cube oh right that was one of the other video Concepts doing a
sleeper build in the G4 Cube I think I actually got a deal on that I don't even
know if it works but uh here let's let's let's eBay that right now I know I
didn't get a deal on Buzz Lightyear but I think I got a deal on the G4 Cube
the Buzz Lightyear thing was hilarious this is just the power adapter
whoa hold on a second wait oh okay no no no no okay okay new
listing hold on yeah this is 15 bids which people want this nine days left
why do people want these hold on two speakers surround hold on power adapter
whoa whoa whoa whoa hold on a second
did I get a deal hold on well wait this
is oh wait this is just the case
are these super collectible why
they're uh they're a pretty interesting period of
of Apple and I don't think they sold very well
either there's like none yeah you got a
rare computer holy crap I actually got one thing that the posters worth 20
bucks they're uh they're pretty special
oh sick so then are they so special a pencil
drawing of one I'm sure they don't summon me though yeah okay hold on the
power bricks are 150 bucks okay are these things so special that people
would be really upset if I did a sleeper build in one though
that I'm not sure about but I'm not entirely sure you should let it through
your fingers just yet okay well I'm not
committed to I'm not committed to uh you know the the the signed loot box thing I
think it'd be even cooler if the G4 Cube was the sleeper though
so we do a sleeper build and then we do the like signed loot box thing and
instead of getting the G4 Cube you get a sleeper gaming PC in the G4
Cube what if you uh what if you just like reproduce
the cube may be slightly larger with a sleeper build in it I don't think we'd
be able to do that it's it's have you have you looked at it lately it's it's
basically a work of art yeah it's beautiful
um okay oh the G4 Cube is yeah people are very very split in the audience
over whether it's okay to uh I don't
think so to cut that thing and it's pretty special
special it's like art almost
apparently they only sold about a hundred thousand of them or something like that yeah it doesn't sound very
special to me Lou
this man is so jaded look why is it art
it's a box you're too mad for someone who's wearing an adorable onesie right
now he looks too comfy to be this angry I am actually pretty comfy I think I got
actually tired after I put it on because I was like I felt cozy you even got it
on over the headphones you're ridiculous I'm like I'm fully chilling out right
now it's made out of the underwear material it's I oh because it is really
soft yeah that's why it's like soft and stretchy stretchy and stuff it's quite
nice yeah we put a bunch of we put probably too much work into this for how
many I expect us to sell but uh the team
was really excited about this product and so we we did like a whole bunch of
rounds of sampling to just to get it just right yeah it's it's pretty nice so
it's underwear is it's like full body underwear essentially yeah it's the
longest underwear yeah
um do you want another merch message I sure yeah I forgot what I was even responding
to at this point hit me okay hold on would you have to destroy it
yeah oh yeah yeah you'd have to you'd
have to significantly modify it oh right
I've I put up a pole and Floatplane let's have a look at the results
ah show results okay to sleep or build
60 say yes only
okay so here's the thing this kind of poll is not really just
majority rules like yeah when we asked
about okay when we asked about uh posting exclusives that we had already
produced during the uh production break
I think about 60 percent said yes
but based on that 40 percent said no
we made the call to not do it because
the no kind of has more weight when the
when when it's something very significant I guess is what I'm trying
to say if it was 98 yes two percent no
then those no's get drowned out a little bit but there's
it's not as simple as just okay 51 say yes okay we do it what if
the parts don't work yeah does that okay okay hold on here
let's let's try it let's try it again the conversation currently going on in
flow plane chat and I I kind of I think that's interesting I fix I know fix Oh
Sleeper no okay I'm not I'm not I'm not
uh spend more to spend more money on on
this yeah overpriced Cube yeah
you could you could let people that care about this
uh thing have the parts that don't work
because maybe they can restore them or something it would probably be good to
uh if you do do a sleeper build in it then make the parts available because
I'm pretty sure those are difficult to come by yeah interesting
um like uh for your phone uh you know
that was parts that I managed to get oh do you have all the parts for that it
will be here Monday I hope oh fantastic but an entire phone guess what wait what
yeah that was the way oh yeah super
cheap oh just an entire new phone with a
broken big screen oh perfect uh because my big screen Works your big screen
works so we can replace literally everything else yeah it's gonna be a
Linus and Dan Extravaganza uh as it
turns out I do need to fix my fold three
that uh fell in the pool because there's some footage that we need for a video
ironically a video about my computer breaking
um that is on that phone like I didn't need
any any of the family stuff I had actually backed it up about three weeks
prior but and so I was already going to
do the video with Dan anyway because I thought it was really interesting to just do like a phone repair video but
then we discovered that I had selfie shot some stuff that had not been
ingested in that three weeks before it died in just
and so we actually do need to get the
data off it the good news is based on the symptoms I've seen I think it's just
a busted battery and then Dan also found some corrosion on one of the daughter
boards yeah um I might be a little bit more severe we don't know yet it seems
like definitely it wants to have two batteries and one of them is just
absolutely puff to maximum it's so puffed that one of the displays We're
not gonna have to uh heat up to get the adhesive loose it's all it removed half
of the glued on display which was really nice yeah and thankfully that's a
feature not a bug and it seems like that is the side that
may have got a far more uh water in it than than the other one which might be
okay so we'll see we will see and the side that got a lot less water is the
main board that's the important one yeah with the storage chips on it and the soc
so so I'm I'm pretty hopeful honestly speaking and um what I'm excited for is
if the main board doesn't work we have a bunch of Reflow tools and so what we'll
have to do because I got you a working phone but it's all broken we'll have to
take the soc sorry we'll have to take the memory chips and Transplant them
that won't work that'll be uh that'll be
the Hail Mary I know I really I I sincerely we can just like message Drive
Savers or something hey hey does do they because if you if you if you oh if you
cared that much yeah then yeah if you no I don't I don't mean to send it to them
I just mean we could just ask them is there any point doing this because I think the answer is no I think if you
decouple the controller from the nand chips
um the new controller no longer knows where anything is and should take the
controller too uh well the controller should be on the soc let's take the soc
okay right but then if it's but
you see where we're going yeah I see where we're going we're going in down a
rabbit hole Yeah that's why it's a Hail Mary yeah I don't think we're gonna go down I don't think we'll need to I think
I would rather I would rather just reenact me in the server room
discovering that my computer is broken I think that would be better
honestly we'll see we'll see I can I'm
hopeful I put the act in reenactment so I'm in my computer room right now I
can't believe this my system it just it just I was in the middle of using it and
it turned off what the hell what the heck I thought
I'm a tech tips man why is my computer broken I'm pretty sure I can pull it off
uh hold on we got a second merch message of the three this is going very smoothly
uh can you ask Luke how he got that star
field constellation Edition watch
uh I bought it he just he just I don't believe you I
actually did hold on a second oh my God hold on oh no
hold on what have you done with Luke
hold on a second
300 did you oh no you also get the game
and you get other stuff too I've bought Collector's Editions before okay that's
that's true he does buy physical copies of games this is a thing he does yeah
dude the physical copy is not a disc but
it's like a it's a credit stick from the game it's actually kind of cool
why are these pictures so small this is stupid this is kind of dumb yeah wait so
are you wearing it right now what's right here oh why is it sitting on your
keys well because I took it off because the onesie sleeve goes all the way oh
all right I didn't want to like make it look weird so what it what what kind of
watch is it is it smart or is it just like uh it's a smart okay so it's I call
it a last last last last last last gen
Smartwatch I see yeah but it's like
actually kind of nice oh so it doesn't have a touch screen no
cool four buttons around it the left side is up and down
top right I think is like settings and then bottom right is I think back cool
definitely need the leather strap if there's another strap option I don't
remember what exactly it is that's the standard you can get any strap I think
it looks great it has a step counter on it sure it shows your
notifications on the screen you can change your music on your phone
with it heck yeah yeah all right hello
dll off topic but will the Badminton Center have rental rackets yes
yeah I think it's really silly that a lot of places don't have rental rackets and Rental shoes it's like
such a nominal investment that pays for
itself so quickly how could you possibly not I just I can't fathom it
um just it I think one of the challenges is that a
lot of sports facilities are run by Sports people and not business people
and like to be clear I don't even mean like like like business business
monsters you know like nickel and diming
everything or whatever I just mean sort of just generally Financial efficiencies
and things if your general efficiencies like I you know to me it's just uh it's
just a no-brainer that okay you can get
a decent racket for like 80 Canadian dollars so that's like 60 US Dollars
your cost is less than that let's assume your cost is like 45 or 40 bucks you can
rent that racket out for like five dollars ten bucks
so in in somewhere between four and ten
rentals you have completely covered your cost on it and everything from there is
brand new money you would have not obtained if you just if you didn't make
that small investment that's just very obvious to me that you just need to do
it um yes badminton has specific shoes Bots
they're for the court their Court shoes
you don't want to Scuff the you wear them when you get a parking ticket
oh just trying to figure out how to make
that into a court joke and I couldn't this man's a professional okay no I got
one more maybe slightly longer one if you want or we'll save it for later
um let's see high dll Apple's proprietary M chips are very powerful
and efficient why don't we see Intel and AMD start having RAM as part of the
system on the chip ddr5 should run much faster in this case
oh man um with uh hold on eventually hold on no
no no no no I'm sorry yeah hold on hold on one big board risk future
risk is good yay ah crap I can't find it right now but if
you actually if you look at the if you watch the video we made recently called
starting at is the biggest lie in Tech or something like that
um there's an ASUS laptop that I believe is either available now or will be
available very soon that uses a very
similar um RAM on package ASUS laptop here I really
would like to find it dang it I do not want this future I want
upgradability and interchangeability I can't just mean mental I can't find it
the point is it's coming it's coming now uh it's I mean it's and it's not just
laptops like you know we kind of oh it's everything yeah everything is
configurable it's it's it's not even it's not yeah it's it's even in the data
center where we're seeing we're seeing chips that have hbm right on them well
that's not upgradable right whether it's like NVIDIA's um uh uh Grace Hopper or
gray Superchip or whatever it's called Uh I think Intel has some stuff coming
um it's it's it's coming and the reality of
it is this is reflective of how the
users of these products use them
and not just something that's being pushed on us by the manufacturers like I
remember my mind being blown the first
time someone told me that in a data center like in a scale data center like
that someone like a Google might run or an Amazon when a server is bad if a
stick of RAM goes bad it is not uncommon for them to rip that server out put a
new one in and basically just send that to the
scrap the storage and put it in a heap
for you know whoever our partner is who flips these things on eBay you get rid
of it it's gone it's out whole server not not a drive whole server and I was
like what shouldn't they just have an IT room
where they like fix them
and the answer was at that scale
it's not a good use of time it's a better use of time to just throw in a
known good brand new working server and not deal with that because they have
enough to do and I the the the the the
DIY are in me just just about died
hearing that but then if that's true if
that's the case at least in some at least in some places uh at real scale
they do this with entire racks of Kit not just Services yeah we have this
topic later in the doc which is Intel's meteor Lake launches in December but
people have linked articles talking about how it has LP ddr5 on chip lpddr5x
Intel demos meteor Lake CPU with on package LP ddr5x
is a Toms Hardware article yeah there you go through but yeah uh there there's
one ASUS laptop that we pointed out in that video though that I believe is
already using uh on package memory or if
not on package it's very very close yeah
um and they and by doing that they were able to run at much much higher
frequencies compared to running in a dim or even being soldered to the main board
but farther away just the signal Integrity is so much better so so right
so back to the servers for a second this coupling of CPU to memory is
reflective then of the use case I mean most people treat their computer like a
microwave and I know this is this is the
kind of thing that I think is hard for us to wrap our brains around but for
most people when their computer is dead
the computer is dead yeah yeah and you
can take it to a repair shop but as we know if you've ever taken something to a
repair shop I mean they want 60 bucks to put in a memory module
right so imagine how much it costs if
you want them to substantially repair the computer it actually doesn't
necessarily make Financial sense to rep
to have that computer repaired by someone else it makes sense for us because we're going to fix it ourselves
right are you trying to get something to Jacob
Danes yeah the former leader of the pirate party of
Canada We're In The Presence at royalty
um let's see how this goes is this to do with the buzzing are we
like trying to figure it out right now or something what is he even doing here what time is it I can't I actually can't
let you log into my phone I'm sorry oh there's like multiple not even works
look how red he is his mom watches the
show just wait for them with the ones look how red he is that took no time
did I get a nerve I was gonna say if you wanted to like text it you could do that
I just can't let you on to the actual phone itself that is so you need to do
something to it is there like a do you need Dev mode
okay sounds good all right
um anywho you don't have to do that what
was I talking about right right so so this is reflective of
the way that people are using this Hardware anyway right right but consumer
technology right so people don't people don't upgrade stuff yeah they don't
repair stuff because it's not cost effective if you're going to spend 300
repairing a computer you bought for a thousand dollars five years ago it's
probably not even worth three hundred dollars and something else might fail now
yes but and and whether it would or wouldn't I could see that being the
mentality well if the if the Transmissions going then probably the
you know I'm gonna need to change all the belts soon anyway and then you know
probably the the power Windows are gonna start jamming realistically you know
at what point does whether it's a car a
computer or whatever else at what point does it just turn into a money pit and
it's better to start over new and I think that whether it's uh um whether
it's true or not a lot of people have that perception of computers so
if people are just going to go hey my computer's slow I need a new one anyway
then I think from the manufacturer's standpoint they're sitting there going okay well this is slower which makes us
less competitive it costs more which makes us less competitive and people
aren't even asking for this why are we doing this
and so you know in some cases I do think Apple does things that I then get very
frustrated by because they weren't necessary and the rest of the industry
just goes there but in this case they're probably just ahead of the Curve
we were headed there anyway I mean we've been talking about this ever since what
was it like fifth gen I think fifth gen
core it was rumored that Intel would solder desktop CPUs to motherboards and
we were we were mad about it I mean I think justifiably so
but it was it's been clear the writing's been on the wall for the better part of
a decade now so maybe writing is on the wall in regards to who's going to
purchase the thing which is going to drive engineering decisions at companies
like this but I would say I still don't think it's necessarily a good thing
um because someone could repair it eventually even
if the initial consumer isn't going to repair it no you're right it doesn't mean that someone couldn't repair it
eventually tell me this okay I'm totally
pivoting a little bit here
in the world we live in today with
security vulnerabilities being as impactful as they are and as widespread
as they are should we be running 10 year old
processors or should they just go to the Scrapper
and retrieve the goal um I think for individual consumers I
think a lot of the CPU level vulnerabilities that we've had are not really that big of a deal
yeah be completely honest yet sure fair enough I just uh but a lot of them have
required targeted attacks if I'm remembering correctly sure okay
um So speaking of targeted attacks uh did
you know that we would need someone's permission to drive by their house with
a password cracking server and break into their Wi-Fi because it's illegal
not surprised
why'd I bring that up I would have just done it anyways no
reason I was I didn't care
anywho
if it was a really powerful password cracking server
oh you're gonna try to hit me I don't know I just the people and good luck
people exist and uh really powerful password cracking servers exist yeah
from kamino hypothetically yeah uh if a
company called Camino existed then maybe they would have a really powerful server
that could be used for cracking passwords
I thought this was I thought you were referencing something I had said no a
bit ago but okay sounds like no oh we've got some good videos coming out
in the next little bit here like seriously we've got uh I reviewed
one just before the land show um checking out LaserDisc
I had only had one experience with
LaserDisc and it was extremely brief not even I didn't even get to watch a whole movie uh so we gotta have you ever tried
LaserDisc no you know how big they are right uh aren't they like records yeah
they're records yes yeah yeah but they look like giant CDs like novelty sized
CDs um I've never actually seen one in
person and they have movies I don't know about them yeah you can store like an
hour of footage per side so if you watch
a two-hour movie you actually have to get up in the middle and flip it Lord of
the Rings is like four discs yeah yeah
and the the they're double-sided so it's uh so it's yeah it's two hours per disc
but it's one hour per side so you're gonna be you're gonna be getting you're
gonna be getting up to flip your precious over pretty often I think yeah
so Lord of the Rings uh wait Lord of the Rings The Two Towers run time is two
hours and 59 minutes with that said um Lord of the Rings was
never released on LaserDisc so it's not an issue but no I know I just think it
would be fun Gone With the Wind sure was and that's like a three and a half hour
movie or something like that so you'd be getting up like four times to or five
times to flip the disc or whatever the math Works no four times I think
um anyway uh there were just before anyone jumps in with the you know
correction uh there were more advanced players that had read heads on both
sides but you still had to get up and change the disc
if the movie's longer than two hours which a lot of movies are that's not the
extended I'm trying to find the actual extended edition times but either way
regardless it's long yeah so that video
is coming out I think this weekend uh we have another one coming this weekend on
RF blocking paint so we found this site that kind of
pedals in um digital smog
like conspiracy uh uh cures and and
remedies and they have RF blocking paint
that you can use to paint your room to
keep the to keep the 5G out brilliant
um it's
I don't want to spoil too much but it works shockingly well really yeah
it's actually kind of cool yeah so it's the first would you say this is the
first legit use of the RF uh the EMC
chamber like NVIDIA no no oh he's eating is there yeah he's
having some dinner doesn't the wall block the 5G though no no the 5G
millimeter wave yeah it could be blocked by a piece by this this garment
um but a non-millimeter wave no no it can like pass through stuff is there
yeah a bunch of people in chat are asking this too um it's not lead paint is it oh yeah oh
oh well yeah that's good yeah yeah like I took it and I brought it with me like
this wow
no it's not lead paint you know
I believed it oh man come on the extended times are
three hours and 48 minutes for Fellowship 3 hours and 55 minutes for
two hours and four hours and 23 minutes for return to the king okay so okay so
for Return of the King hold on one side two sides two hours three days three
side four side so you have to get up so
you have to put it in you have to get up to change it
that's one getting up you have to get up to put in the second disc you have to
get up to flip the second disc and you have to get up to put in the third disc
if it existed you would have to get up four times during the movie including
how long was it four hours and uh four hours and 23 minutes including one time
23 minutes before the end of the movie to basically just watch the epilogue
essentially yikes
that's pretty Epic
uh oh we're supposed to do some more topics hey wolfic says here's the
question how many movies are even less than an hour oh no so you're gonna be flipping no
matter what you're watching unless you have one of the fancy dual head ones
yeah whoa so it doesn't even flip it itself
it just starts playing so there's like maybe a blip and they're
like for commercial there were commercial Solutions like really advanced stuff where you it had like
Changers remember CD Changers well there were laser disk Changers but it was not
for movies it was for like karaoke
yeah one of the big benefits of LaserDisc was it was
to my knowledge the earliest home format to support multiple audio tracks my dad
used to run it uh like one of its major adoptions was karaoke because you can
have all of these tracks on one big disk
and then you want to go to the next one well it's right here on the disk done
instant every single time you know
it's awesome plus video I'm pretty sure that came through the
mic yeah
so yeah for karaoke they would have entire libraries and it was so cool
because you could have the vocal track in the music track separated which for karaoke I think has pretty obvious
benefits um anywho we should probably do another
topic or two because we have sort of oh
oh well I think we should probably do
this topic what the one I highlighted okay
you'll find about it whoop
whomp I'm sad I'm genuinely sad we have
made the difficult decision to not move forward with LTX 2024.
um there are four key reasons uh one the
vast majority of our company does not focus on events
um and while our core competencies like technology media production do overlap
somewhat with event running the vast majority of our time and effort is spend
on other things which means that we do not have well-established processes and
workflows and running events at a large scale
um requires well-established processes and
workflows or you end up with a lot of inefficiency and you end up with a lot
of stress so that's I I the biggest reason but
also very closely related to the next reason which is also the biggest reason
and that's crunch while there is a lot
of work that can be done in advance of an event like LTX there's also an
enormous amount of work that has to be done in the days or even the hours
immediately before the doors open this puts a ton of strain on the entire team
um another big reasons cost um you know I want to be transparent
with you guys that's that's that's the way we run this company that's the way
we run this channel LTX 2023 was
profitable which is good but there's also an enormous opportunity
cost compared to focusing on our regular activities meaning that prioritizing LTX
doesn't necessarily make the most sense and remember part of that opportunity
cost is not just money part of it is
also process and and quality of life for
the team and all those things I mean I even said on WAN Show at ltx23 when Luke asked me
the hard question of is it coming back I talked about this I
talked about the crunch I talked about how even if it does make money that
doesn't mean it necessarily makes sense um I asked him then because I was trying
to get him to commit to it before he thought about it logically no I had
already been thinking about it a lot um number four is it's not all about
money of course LTX was born out of a desire to serve the community and other
creators but again it's clear that for the investment
we made into LTX which was very substantial there are many other
opportunities that we could pursue for collaborations and Community engagement
that might be more exciting and don't cause the same degree of strain for the
people that work on the events so that's what it pretty much comes down to we do
have some alternative things to be excited about one of them is whale then
um we are going to continue doing whale lands aiming for anywhere from 200 to
300 attendees per one I'd like to do them more often than just once a year
personally I'd be down to do it once every couple
months once every few months I've had some people approach me internally and
say hey they think that's too much and it won't be special anymore or something
like that I I honestly think it'd be in some ways more special I think it'd be
just such a such a just hang out
um just kind of break the routine
LTX was a really cool event for the fans as a whole but whale land I have more
personal fun at so
and I and if we could do more whale lands and if we could bring some
elements of LTX to whale land like maybe at a whale in we have a a a tech Midway
like we had at LTX or you know some of
the the con evil you know games or or
things like that like I I think there's ways for us to make whale land really
amazing you could still even potentially have like the the uh water cooling
educational Workshop thing totally like
if someone like a rod came up um you know there's no reason why we
couldn't you know do something like that okay yeah at this whale land uh we're
going to be doing two bending 101. yeah maybe it doesn't run the whole time
because maybe rod wants to play some games too yeah like and maybe someone like Rod actually gets to play games for
a change yeah I'm not convinced he actually plays games I think he just
like builds cool computers I thought he was really into it wasn't it War Thunder
or something I don't know I've never seen him actually play a game but I've seen him build a lot of cool computers
that's all I'm saying that's all I'm saying I've seen them do both I've seen
him build far more cool computer
he says he says he says yes
yeah I'm not sure what he's responding to exactly because of the chat delay but
definitely yes my dad says there should be quarterly will end okay all right all
right all right Rob I'm on it we're working on it we need a facility first
geez excitement is High
um so yeah I um this was uh this was a
super emotional decision for I shouldn't say decision for me because I didn't
make the decision I was involved in the decision I I laid out my points I
ultimately did Advocate against future ltx's just for
look I mean okay maybe I'm speaking out
of turn here um Colton basically said Point Blank if
we're doing LTX again I can't do this um
I don't blame him it like it's it's it's brutal
um and and and so it's like it's not it's not just like I have I have said
the whole so he he was against I was four I have said the whole time though
that I'm happily voting for as someone who had nothing to do with any of the
work that was involved in it I think my vote was probably like the least
valuable out of all of them um because I was the least attached out
of everyone I think genuinely um so it's easy for me to say yeah we
should keep doing it I had some arguments which were like it was profitable and getting cons to a
profitable point is very difficult and cons tend to have natural inherent
growth and become very highly profitable on the high end and I do think we were
trending in that direction um and there were a lot of like
Financial efficiency things that we I think did quite poorly with this time
around we could have saved more money which could have made more money both at the same time all this kind of stuff but
yeah all the work and stuff involved and
there is still the opportunity cost and Min maxing the work and profit was never
what LTX was about yeah and so I feel like you're right the con could have
become a huge profit Center you are right but it wouldn't have been LTX
anymore and that was a big part of I think it
could still be
I think it would be a very very difficult path to navigate yeah and
potentially not worth it and maybe whale land is how we can keep that fun small I
do I do like I I think it's pretty cool that
there's a plan instead yeah oh oh yeah I
think that's pretty cool yeah because just dropping it and be like guess we're never doing it again would kind of suck
which I also didn't say yes I said we are not doing 2024. yeah
um uh but like yeah whale then the fact that we will have a facility that we
like know the people who own it
means that the rate we'll be paying is I
don't know nothing uh means that we can just we can price
the tickets at something that we feel is is is
the very least reasonable not what the market will bear yeah but like
reasonable but also you know we need to make sure the time makes sense for our
our team to put work into it and make it a really cool event
um but not worry about pinching pennies so we could just make it a really cool
event and just make it fun right oh Sean sorry I'm going to derail slightly I
just Sean LMG in footprint chat just spoke uh I I wasn't sure if I should or
could name him yeah it was like two weeks ago I think yeah so you told me
that I can I also asked if I could give the background there and he said yes oh
sure so this is whaler99 from The Forum yeah uh who's our new IT person at Linus
Media Group um not even not new anymore I mean it
hasn't been here almost six months now or something somewhere around that yeah I think it's here for a bit yeah it's
been hard to keep that in yeah yeah I
wanted to refer to him on the show as Whalen I don't want to mention that but
yeah some people might actually know Sean if you've been around the Forum
especially in the earlier days of the Forum
um if you if you've seen Whaler 99 around
um that's him so yeah I don't remember what
I was referencing but I wasn't sure if I could name him and now I do know and
that's that's Sean so yeah yeah so he actually like reports to Luke yeah so
he's sort of used to as a mod back in like 2012 or whatever he first started
working with the first mods yes like freaking it's like actually one of the
ogeist yeah Forum people ever yeah
um but yeah he just said whalerland yeah
yeah so he'll be he'll be uh probably helping us out with getting that set up
once he gets his poor like head out from
under the water of like our I.T tech there you're gonna you're gonna like the
new Disaster Recovery doc oh yeah it's like
Wicked how many how many pages is it 200
200 it's more than 200 right yep yeah what yeah it's for everything oh is
there a disaster Solutions
what happens if uh and it's like very clickable so you haven't written that
one to different parts of it and all that kind of stuff 210 yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah hell yeah heck yeah
exciting yeah it's cool it's good
anyways yeah so that's sad but there is
the good news of uh whale lands
more and more awesomer and I'm sure there'll be more details on
that in the future there was a couple comments from some of the people who
worked on the mom and pop computer shop video by the way uh Tanner who uh who
helped coordinate everything is like the the writer for the video uh said that
the store owner Keith was even funnier off camera this is so true I that's one
of the things that drives me crazy when I'm working with amateur talents is
they'll say something hilarious they'll be like okay free okay do that again and like it's never
quite it's never quite the same yeah like that's something that takes a lot
of practice um and is there something about just having a
camera pointed at you just kind of stiffens you up right it makes you feel unnatural and overall he did great
um but yeah he was even funnier off camera and Hoffman uh Fufu was the
editor for it I cannot believe how fast
Hoffman turned that around that was like a two-day edit whoa yeah
no no no no no no no we this is one of the First videos that we've released
post-production break that actually was shot post-production break we shot this
at on um oh man was it
Thursday of last week I I don't I don't
remember exactly when we shot it uh cred
uh it should be on my
should be on my calendar I think it was I think it was Thursday
of last week surely it wasn't Friday no it couldn't have been Friday uh yeah I
think it was Thursday of last week definitely wasn't Tuesday and we
released it like that weekend uh it must have been because the sponsor asked for
a rush edit on it or something like that because we told Keith too we were like
hey yeah it's gonna be probably a few weeks because that's generally how long
something like that would take to make its way through the queue but uh yeah
Hoffman said the footage was extremely hard to condense because there was so
much good material and there was a lot more items that we didn't show we
typically run audio continuously and Keith was so funny that occasionally
while reviewing the audio you'd hear tons of laughter followed by David
hurriedly trying to get the camera running um passing pedestrians kept trying to
poke their heads in to figure out what all the chaos was about we also filmed
the back of the shot of the back of the shop but wound up cutting it for time uh
Tander had a big list of games but Linus kept making up his own rules on the Fly
okay that's true I mean that sounds like a lioness thing
yeah that sounds like a Linus thing too just question question was what were the
best parts of the shoot that didn't make the cut I think some of the best ones
were some of the haggling between me and Keith
um there there were some I think in the Final Cut of the video Hoffman was going
for a bit of a tone a tone of
you know me mostly going along with everything but there were definitely
times when I did push back more and and we did negotiate a bit more I think
Hoffman did a great job though of keeping in all the most important
gambling because that was by far when I
was watching it I don't even want to spoil it but the one big really
impactful role was like the critical
role yeah there you go um yeah I'm gonna be
I'm gonna be completely forthright with you
there's only two times in my life that I have fainted
or almost fainted both while being uh both while having blood drawn because I
am what's apparently the technical term is uh a fainter
which basically means that when your skin is punctured your body immediately
goes into protective I must not lose all my blood mode and all the blood drains
from your extremities and is like I'm gonna stay here now
um so when when I'm getting blood drawn like my my hands go ice cold and they'll
be like in there with the needle and it doesn't bother me I don't care but it's
like they're like Hello can like it just
stops flowing there's no pressure they just can't get
it wow I do not have that problem yeah so anyway
um I I found this out when I was really sick with somethings like back in the
swine flu days or something stupid like that but very pre-covered the the old
you know flu everyone was worried about um so it was back in those days and I
was like quite sick like and it weakened State already and I had to get blood
drawn and I'm sitting in the chair and I
start to kind of move and the nurse poor thing she must have been about 85 pounds
soaking wet basically goes whoa whoa whoa I can't hold you you put your head
between your knees like and I'm like okay okay and I managed to
avoid passing out and then the second time it was for some life insurance thing they had to draw blood from me and
um I started to go dark and I like went over to I had my like LoveSac like giant
bean bag pillow in the in the living room and I was in the dining room at the old place and I like went down and went
on to the LoveSac thing and I like closed my eyes for a second and then I
was totally fine I talked to the guy and he goes you've been passed out for five
minutes and I was like oh really neat I
didn't know that so that's the one time I fainted
during this shoot I was in a near fainted state
three times from just
stress it was very intense there was more
probably more physical there was more physical activity than you guys probably
realized like watching a video like that because I'm climbing up on counters like
I'm I'm doing a lot it's it's a
different I had one of our one of our uh subjects for
um the tech upgrade series that we do someone internal who sees a lot of
footage what's up oh there's an ant huge one
so yeah see you later buddy um who sees a lot of footage but doesn't
participate in a lot of videos messaged me afterward after we did theirs and
basically goes I don't know how you do this every day
like I am white I I just I can't
it's draining yeah it's it's doing on a
lot of levels being on is is is quite
exhausting and uh you know when you're working in an unfamiliar environment
with unfamiliar people um you know a big part of the host's job
is to make everyone else around them look good and look really talented as a
host and so it's a lot of things for me to keep track of when I'm trying to
drive a video like that forward and then the other big one is
I didn't even know how much the sponsorship was
I I had actually no idea so I had no
idea what the running total was because I had a lot of other things to keep track of and so particularly
um you know when I would stop and breathe for a second I don't think I drank any water that day because I like
forgot my water bottle or something so that was probably a major factor but
there were multiple times that day when I was just like okay
is this shoot going okay is everything okay uh what is happening right now and
the one time I actually started to feel Blackness
come in around my vision was right before
the throw because I was just I was so stressed
like I I don't I think you know that I'm not much of a gambler no one in the hand
is worth 500 in the bush for me yeah
yeah we do I I'm not that kind of person and so I I played a bit of a character
in this video you know the the gambling
man I'm gonna rule for it yeah yeah but that is not my personality at all I
think that's something a lot of people don't realize is from one video to the
next sometimes I'll be playing a slightly different character because that's what the content calls for
um and so I played you did it well I played the like Cavalier Gambling Man
but that is extremely stressful for me I
did notice that through the course of the video the games uh start becoming
more and more skill based oh that wasn't
intentional actually oh I'm sure it wasn't but I also I fully believe that
your brain in the moment was like this game sounds more fun yeah maybe
uh I mean skill didn't work out great for me at the beginning you saw that
putt yeah I mean that just looked hard
to do you saw the part you saw the darts so just because I didn't necessarily win
you know what didn't make it into the edit was the pre-throw he wanted a
practice throw I nailed the practice throw and then freaking flubbed
you guys looked so bad okay if you tried
that Dart set though you'd understand that's what I assumed while I was watching it they were done this is
astronomically bad they were Dollar Store darts yes
they had no weight not not that I'm like I'm bad at darts but like I know I just
you had to whip them though yeah watching you guys do it I was like what
there was no weight to them Keith I think it took him three times to get it
to stick in but you didn't see that part because that wasn't in the Final Cut
yeah yeah yeah
man that video was uh it was a good video people should watch it yeah it was
really stressful though scrapyard Wars had better darts we had darts and scrap
yard Wars Maybe seems like the kind of thing we would do
Channel Super Fun and I think had darts at some point definitely had lawn darts
um you have more topics we've kind of already touched on meteor Lake we kind
of like approved human trials yeah um the Rog Ally base model is coming
it's much slower it uses the Z1 instead of the Z1 extreme
uh I'm I'm planning to do a review because I've been using my Rog Ally a
lot oh good
oh this is really frustrating uh YouTube made a made a policy change allowing
channels to change their names
um without changing the display name on
their Google account so hackers are now able to easily disguise what channel
they've taken over frustrating attempts to identify and contact the Channel's
true owner while changing a Channel's name we'll remove any verified badge
associated with the channel forcing forcing creators to apply for
reinstatement I don't that's a sentence fragment that's okay we tried however
not all valuable hacking targets have verification badges such as strategy
game streamer Das tactic whose channel was hacked and so thoroughly changed
that it was only identifiable because his store was still up Das tactic is
back in charge of his account now following assistance from YouTube One
Challenge was trying to communicate with his community
um because so much of his online life was connected into his hacked Google
account though thankfully not his Twitter or Discord this is wild so this
is what a channel that's hacked could look like now
just completely unidentifiable
unbelievable that's rough could Google now at least not make things worse
I feel like this is one of those like one hand not talking to the other
situations and that's probably the most optimistic
possible interpretation of what happened with unity who has walked back the
pricing scheme yeah they released a public apology and made significant
revisions to their proposed pricing changes uh the recap is last week they
announced a 20 cent per download fee on Unity based games that had made over 200
000 in Revenue a year and had over 200 000 lifetime downloads in response many
Indie developers threatened to withdraw their games from sale and migrate to another engine for current and future
projects their new pricing plan doubles
the minimum threshold on Revenue before charges uh from oh it doubles the
minimum threshold before charges from 200k to 1 million a year that's not
double but yeah oh I read that in the pre-show and I was like what okay well
basically it UPS the minimum threshold for Revenue uh Games published in the
past under a previous version of unity will no longer be subject to the new
feed which is how it should have worked in the first place how can you possibly unilaterally change a deal that's not
how that works developers will also be able to choose between the fee or paying
2.5 percent of their gross revenue instead last week Unity claimed that
they would assess how much developers owed through an unclear proprietary
method leading to speculation of potential DRM and security issues now
Unity says they will allow developers to self-report these numbers I just hope
they follow through on all of this and we don't see any of that same kind of
behavior again is it time to switch to windshield after dark Dan
let's do it
just walks past the camera what a pro
marriage messages I'm starting at the top of potential sure I mean we can
probably just answer most of them there's uh there's not too many this week okay yeah the potential ones are
more like directed at you guys personally I think
um okay let's start at the top here hey oh I just donated a bunch of my
icebreakers because I couldn't stand how itchy they were on my smooth Supple skin
on a scale of one to sand paper what's the itch Factor on the LTT Merino teas
I'm happy with them four Merino teas but they are still
Merino teas if you like soft fabric on your smooth Supple skin
just get our regular teas they're great or better yet pick up one of the RGB
ones that is probably the softest shirt on the store
and it's available in more than one color now so yeah just go go go get that
just load up those they're they're by far here I should probably just
oh man I just realized we never even showed the photos for the for the onesie
it's always fun seeing the team rod from
the business team Sara from the design
team Alama Day from the fashion team Dennis from the bothering me team
lots of fun Adam
what is this a group oh we do group photos now okay got a bunch of the
business teams that's actually really cool it looks like a family photo that's
awesome um so yeah the onesies uh the reversible
bomber jackets from last week and the Merino t-shirt from last week so the one
you want if you want just like the softest softest thing for your Supple
skin is this
oh I don't see different colors oh are they oh yeah okay yeah here it is in
Gray so yeah it's this shirt it's so
comfy okay
are you aware of any Tech projects similar to VLC that have chosen to
remain independent despite receiving numerous purchase offers and strictly
refrain from tracking any data from their users
honestly it's not something that I personally pay close enough attention to
how many I mean I would imagine like OBS
has probably received offers for purchase they remain completely independent and
don't appear to be doing any kind of tracking of anyone's use even though
like man the amount the kind of very valuable the kind of data that flows
through OBS from the streamers themselves from any of the any of the
things that are hooked into it like every merch message no no it doesn't
actually because that's just a um like essentially like a web capture window or
something like that right okay literally just a browser Source yeah okay yeah
but I'm sure that they could I'm sure that if they were evil enough they could
engineer OBS in such a way that the only way to hook something in would have to
make it like plain text readable to OBS or something I don't know
um but no OBS just is cute
hey Linus I see you flipping around a Precision screwdriver care to show it
off yeah I showed it earlier in the show so you might just have to rewind uh that
might have been the pre-show actually oh oh well then you might just have to get
a Floatplane and watch it there okay okay no hold on hold on
get out of here
is it in your other pants I appear to have misplaced it I'm sorry uh you will
definitely see more of it in the future
good morning Dale back when Alex had his
Tech upgrade he mentioned that you got an order for 5 million face Shields from
the Canadian government is that a story you can share I don't know that it was a
formal order so much as it was that they were they wanted as many of them as they
could get from anywhere and we had publicly offered to help and I think
they misinterpreted our manufacturing
capacity with those prusa printers that hey again you know we haven't forgotten
shout out prusa for sending over uh I think they just overestimated our
capacity for creating face Shields and
it was you know we basically clarified and we sent as much as we could and um
then we both moved on
hi dll I'm a future teacher and was wondering if there is any Tech in its
early days that you think will become the norm for schools in the future that
I should learn now I would basically just keep my eye out
on anything that your students are using like it's not even as it's not even
in my opinion it's not even the like augmented reality and and AI that is
gonna change things so much or that will be as day-to-day relevant to you as just
things like understanding what Discord is and how it works and how they're
communicating with each other and and interacting I think that
um it's been a huge Advantage for me and Yvonne as parents
to not just know how our kids are
communicating but introduce them to things like Discord where we can be in
the discords they're in and keep an eye on what they're talking to their friends about obviously that's going to be less
relevant as they get into their teenage years but when for young kids keeping
them safe online um it can be a real challenge if you
don't know what they're doing um but I mean obviously that's not
necessarily a teacher's role but I still think that understanding meeting the
kids where they are is um more important than just trying is is
more effective than trying to bring them to where you are
hello my dudes will the Noctua Edition
screwdriver be available through Noctua in Europe
I I believe that is the plan
um so I think I think their plan is to I have no idea how the finances would work
for this but I think their plan is to essentially carry the screwdriver
however that would look but you'd have to honestly the better way to get
information about that would be to ask Noctua because they know better than I
do my husband has watched you since the
NCIX days what is your opinion on Tech
leaks do you think it's affecting buying of new tech
absolutely I mean I I think that leaks can impact the demand for the older item
I think that leaks can do a lot to
generate hype and generate additional news cycles that can amplify the news
around an upcoming launch sometimes I really do feel like leaks are probably
intentional other times they really do look you know too early too much impact
on the old product to be to be worth it and they do look unintentional sometimes
I feel like leaks are um
no matter the cost in terms of your own product lineup just to damage someone
else just to make sure that no there's
there's absolutely No Air Force hype growing for somebody
else oh yeah let's let's leak something that's coming up I think it can be very
tactical I also think it can be very accidental I think it can just be
passionate people who are excited to talk about what they're working on in a bar and being overheard I
um it's just it's just part of it's just part of the territory
okay let's move into some potentials
um let's see I just curated one of them out oh okay I will read that one instead
um hey dll it's currently 4 a.m I just got Starfield bundled with a g502x mouse
what was the best product in game bottling you ever got my favorite was
Battlefield 4 with an AMD GPU by the way I love my uncle Linus bottle
oh I think who's the like Batman bundle the Arkham Asylum one yeah yeah that was
a good bundle uh but there were some really wild bundles before like I I got
um I got Half-Life 2 with my Ellen Wonder 9600 Pro which was hilarious
because by the time the game came out I had already upgraded my GPU
there was so there was a while there where there was bundles of like four
games and I think it got kind of crazy I think anyone who got Half-Life 2 got the
whole Orange Box whoa I don't actually remember hold on Radeon
90 800 Half-Life 2 bundle Orange Box is
am I gonna be able to find an article about this
uh
I'm pretty sure I got an orange box code I'm
ATI offers bonus to Half-Life to bundle buyers okay here we go here we go
you got classic valve Shooters until the half-life sequel shipped so maybe it
wasn't Orange Box oh you got the valve Premiere pack
okay that's that's I think it but then but then didn't Half-Life 2 come with
orange box
I don't remember Orange Box launched after half-life 2.
and that included like portal and things like that too right portal TF2 that was
way later than uh okay okay yeah maybe I'm mistaken Half-Life 2 was something
like 2004. so maybe it was just maybe it was just the older games that came with
it but there were definitely times when aside from official bundles stores would
have like because it used to be physical codes right so they would have a ton of
codes left over and they would stack of them they'd slip in like they they'd
pile up bundles on products they needed to move so I I had taken advantage of
stuff like that in the past as well yeah man game bundles used to be so sick so
sick now they're just like eh yeah let's see
what canceled video project you must most wish you could have completed and
released and why did you have to cancel it
um we don't cancel that much so much as we
kind of reach a non-viable point and and
don't move forward with it uh I'd say one that I'm I'm really
disappointed we didn't do was the rackification of the land Center
upstairs because our intention was to have that be kind of like what I did
with the land Center at my house but run
like a big radiator to the roof and bring back whole room water cooling at
one point I had also wanted to plumb water
um water cooling into the editing den and have all the editing machines water
cooled off of you know just like Plumbing from the walls just like we did
in whole room water cooling with the layout they have now it wouldn't make any sense anyway because they're all
over the room instead of just down the two walls but I think that would have
been super cool to like bring back whole room water cooling in a big way I'd like
to set up something like that at the lab so they just have water available to
cool things when they need it but also I think they probably don't need it quick
disconnects on the desk yeah that would be sick yeah uh okay uh Hey LDL Linus a
couple weeks ago you mentioned that you're more of a textured eater what is
your favorite what is your opinion on Ben and Jerry's ice cream
ah I am too cheap to buy really expensive ice
cream so I curated this because I was like he's probably never even had I have
tried it okay I don't remember like I've probably tried Ben Jerry's once in my
life or something yeah it's like to 100 grams you can get a kilogram at the
superstore for like the same price I just I I don't know I can't the the
maximum for me is I'll spring for Lake Briars but like as soon as you get into
like Haagen-Dazs territory French vanilla is like yeah that's pretty good
it's pretty good it's pretty all right yeah I mean honestly my guilty pleasure
ice cream is just like no name Neapolitan anyway so I'm clearly a
Philistine like five dollars for it for a bathtub
yeah exactly right uh hey lld was wondering what is all
your personal favorite LTT Store hoodie or a jacket that you've ever done
personally probably the ShortCircuit one PS bring back the swacet
favorite we've ever done I know mine
man I really like the tie-dye LTX 23 hoodie it's really good it's really good
I am I am somewhat particular about I'm not a huge fan I like zippers
um yeah yeah but it's it's really good though yeah that's the one in my
backpack right now like that's the one I'm dailying right now
what about you this guy really that's not really a hoodie but
yeah it's it's an old jacket or jacket oh okay that's fair yeah that's a it's a
really nice jacket it's like a really nice jacket I've shown it to
people that are are like
clothing people like and I've I've like just put it on I'm
not gonna tell you like where I got it from or anything just put it what do you think because like you don't expect me
to have super nice clothes out of nowhere
um so I just try it and they're like wow this is like actually really good and they're like checking out what is it
like wall lttstore.com baby I had I was at the gym
yesterday and I I went uh to go into the
pool after working out and I put my water bottle down on like where you put
your stuff when you're changing to get into the pool and some dude walked by
and was like that's a sick water bottle I was like thanks man and he's like is
it a whatever and said some brand I don't remember what it was I was like no it's a
uh it's an LTT and he was like
huh so you're saying we need to invest more
Marketing in our like top of funnel awareness maybe maybe yeah yeah all
right yeah you might you might sell some water bottles to Jim Bros if they even
know what it is excellent he's like it's huge that's
awesome yeah it's like yeah sweet
hey dll I know you play Supreme Commander forged Alliance forever but
what is your opinion on Supreme Commander 2 the gameplay and story
um I never played SubCom 2 because I heard it's bad
so I I was a sheeple and I didn't play it
sorry have things felt different for you or
your staff now that it's been a month since the week uh plus break have you
realized noticeable improvements from your new processes and content schedule
I don't know why doesn't the team answer that there's a couple members of the
team I don't know if Luke's gonna have a lot to contribute to that actually I don't know if Dan's gonna have a lot to
contribute to that okay I guess I'll talk um
that is exactly what my response was going to be too like nothing changed
nobody talked to me as much I was more productive yeah yeah
um I think that there's been changes but I also think that the public perception
of the changes has been much greater than what the actual changes have been I
think not to diminish the effort that's gone into the changes
but we were putting in a lot of effort before I think that's one of the things
that people are kind of there was a lot of changes used to ask
for that were already in motion it's like hey you guys are not doing good
enough hey you're like working the team too hard and I'm sitting here going okay
which one is it yes we're working really hard and we're trying to do better and
that's that was already what we were trying to do
um and you know it's obvious that there were some communication breakdowns that
were taking place I think that's the biggest thing is we we broke down a lot
of barriers in inter-team meetings and we've we've added a lot of
um I I'll also throw in here yeah we
absolutely have our Communications problems and I know of a few that I'm
working on as well yeah um but if you ask like anyone that works at any
a company of a size that's more than like five people
and you ask them like what problems does your company have oh communication's
hooked it's like yeah things happen and I think that there are
a lot of things that we can do better yeah of course there are for sure I'm
not trying to like you know Dodge that there's things no and and that's the
thing is like we've I don't think we've ever pretended that we operate perfectly
smoothly internally I think that one of the things that we do do sometimes to
our detriment is we are extremely transparent about our problems
um and so you know yeah here I am here I am talking about yeah some of the
challenges and uh some of the things that we're doing to improve and I'm
gonna tell you guys up front like it's not perfect it's it's gonna take a lot
of time um the the first week back honestly I
think we had some of the most disastrous shoots that we had had in many many
months um and not because we didn't have enough
time just because we had a lot of new processes to work out and it is not
simple trying to do what we do believe
it or not if you know the solution and
it's super easy and obvious you don't know the solution
it's not that easy it's not that obvious there's a lot of moving parts and
um you know it's it's one of those things that
um you know I feel like people have to people have to experience people have to live to understand and so I don't expect
everybody to understand it but um
overall I I think that
you know it's been motivating I think it's been
exciting for people to spend more time talking to other people
um which has been a personal source of
frustration because it's something that I had been advocating for a lot and then
all of a sudden now it's everybody's idea so now we're going to do this like okay
sure it's like you should be talking to this
team regularly it's like okay but we need like a week shutdown in
order to like internalize them like okay yeah and you know what you know part of
it too is that it's yeah it's not that simple it's just like a lot of the times
sometimes it's process change yeah yeah I want to do this yeah and and sometimes
someone can say something you go yeah that's a good idea and I should do that but until there's like a hey you know
wake up moment you're just you kind of
keep doing things the way that you did them before right and that's uh especially when people are heavily
tasked yeah exactly and I'm and I've never claimed that we don't work hard
never um we do
so I'm optimistic that's what I'll say in summary yeah
yeah there's kind of couple potentials left you guys want to answer that or should
we curate them uh let me have a look
oh well we gotta carry this one
hey dll my hubby and I were in the LTX
vid as two Gamers one CPU nice the PC is
a windowless is in is in a windowless
basement room with our server and run
through a Thunderbolt cable back to the gaming room any Tech tips on cooling
without a pool yeah so um believe it or not that stupid
radiator setup that we had in one of the
parts of whole pool water cooling uh where Alex and I put one radiator
outside it's just a simple car radiator with some rent with like a random
Walmart box fan on it and then one inside and then a tube running through
the wall that actually worked probably better to
cool the room than what I just did bearing in mind of course that what I
just did added net new heat that it then removed so I effectively did nothing but
just taking that radiator and cooling it
outside and then heating so heating the
water inside with the hot air and then dissipating that heat to the outside
worked pretty great and I actually
had kind of thought at that time you know
maybe this whole pool water cooling thing is kind of stupid and I should
just do this because with whole pool water cooling I can't go sub ambient
but with a waterproof fan
and some kind of misting system I could
so I could use like face I could use evaporative cooling as long as as long
as water is plentiful in your area or something like that you could use
evaporative cooling to actually go sub ambient on that radiator outside so I
mean essentially it's always just how to move
heat and water tubes are a really effective way to move heat however I
will say this I I don't think that any of this is
going to be cost effective so I would only do it if it's for fun
uh hi team please tell a story about a time you have felt like a SIMS character
I'm not gonna lie I don't I don't really get this
why'd you curate it though I didn't I didn't curate it oh what should happen
fine okay then go Dan yeah I don't I don't know yeah bright guy
right now yeah why does he have so much light we don't have any light yeah I got
three mortars just pointing at my face I can see nothing
uh I don't know it was a it was a one that was an incoming I thought you guys
might be able to what's and so what was that I don't I was like controlled by
another entity um all the time constantly
I always say that I'm piloting a toddler that I can't control go to gym strength
increase yeah there you go eat I'm I'm controlled by societal pressures play
chess intelligence increase oh it's fighting back uh last one I've got here
hello from Bowling Green Ohio Linus have
you liked the gr Corolla so far and what are your thoughts on Toyota's six-speed
intelligent manual transition excuse me I don't have a lot of thoughts on
intelligent Transmissions because I'm really not much of a car guy but the gr
was a blast I didn't end up buying one we only played around with the Press car
and did the review um I just I can't justify having more
than one car and I'm not going to swap out the taikan for it given that I
already have the taikan if I if they were both on the market today and I was
shopping again it's pretty fun I don't know that I
would spring for the stupid mobile but um
yeah I don't have any thoughts on the transmission I'm afraid
um um oh okay last one time stamp guy here
okay I can't validate that but they say they are I've been designing a win show
themed LTD screwdriver holder capable of housing all the bits thoughts on selling
3D printed projects on LTT Store I'd actually rather not sell them I mean if
if there's marketplaces where you can list it I think there's a pretty vibrant
dude yeah there's also already some out there yeah uh LTD hold on I think
there's like a surprisingly vibrant accessory ecosystem
um there's been some cool ones posted on the reddits and I think in some cases
that was people just showing off their cool project and in other cases that was
people stealth advertising their etsies and stuff because this is definitely a
thing oh wow yeah like check this out oh wait
no not this one um stop we're off the rails here yep
LTT screwdriver carrying case LTT stubby
screwdriver case like this is this is
one thousand percent a thing
um yeah cool right neat we are gonna
probably do our own at some point but you know for the time being it's
definitely something that you can get and it's something that you know we are
we are at the very least
accepting of you know I don't think that we're going
to be going out of our way to you know promote this because we might have our
own competing products at some point or whatever else we don't want to we don't
want to like rug pull anybody but um we're also not gonna We're Not Gonna
you know be upset about anything we we
think this is overall really cool yeah really really really cool
and I think that's it that's it
thanks for tuning in you guys and we'll see you again next week same bad time
same bad Channel if you're just tuning in uh pretty late in the show here
um just bear in mind the VOD might take a little bit because the show was
interrupted so we have to take those two pieces of the vods place them together
then upload and process so it's going to take some time especially on fliplane
and that's actually like a lot of time yeah yeah okay okay see ya bye
thank you
I'm like so ready for bed right now yeah