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mac or pc whichever one you personally prefer you have to admit that there are

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advantages to the other side i mean think about it you

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simply cannot run say final cut pro or

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logic pro on Windows and at the same time gaming on macOS

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sucks if only there were some way that you

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could run both of them at near full speed simultaneously

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on the same pc

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oh what's that there

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i guess there is so behind me and Anthony is a machine

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that we call the in-decisionator

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it can be a mac it can be a pc

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and through some software magic it can actually be both of them at the same

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time as you can see right here

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so uh what do you say guys should we walk you through how we did it and take

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it for a spin i think so

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if you've seen any of our videos involving hackintosh virtual machines

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you'll probably have some idea where we're going with this if not here's the 20 second version

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using red hat's kvm hypervisor many modern computers can actually have their

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resources like CPU cores system memory

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or even graphics cards divide it up and then allocate it to

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multiple users or workloads using this technology you can even install two

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operating systems on the same computer that exist completely independently of

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each other as we've done in the past so

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for today's project then we've got something really really cool for you

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guys so we've taken an AMD ryzen 9 3900x 12

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core processor and then what we've done is we've split those 12 cores straight

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down the middle between two virtual machines that will run Windows on one

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side and macOS on the other for graphics we've gone with an rtx 2080

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ti for our Windows box and a Radeon 7

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for our mac then we've passed those graphics cards through to their

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respective vms this method of assigning our gpus results in relatively little

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lost performance so the main challenge we ran into for this project well there

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were many first NVIDIA's legendary code 43 error NVIDIA obviously doesn't like

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consumers running their GeForce gpus in a vm just go out and buy a quadro

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combating some weird stuttering in Windows was the next issue that we had

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to fix and we fixed that by switching to message signaled interrupts instead of

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traditional electrical line based interrupts like you'd normally get in a

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processor these days or ever really and finally getting the macOS catalina beta

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to use the drivers that apple included for virtualized storage

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that last one in particular is really exciting because apple has never

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supported it in the past make sure you're subscribed because i'm already

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working on convincing Linus here to let me work on a video on mac virtualization

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once we get the mac pro in uh yeah we're definitely going to be doing that anywho

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where things take a bit of a turn today is how we're going to interact with our

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frankenstein machine so in the past if you wanted to use

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multiple computers you'd either have to use a hardware switcher inconveniently

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also called a kvm uh multiple monitors

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or in the case of the lg ud79 that we used once before you would have to be

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content with 1080p quadrants of a single

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16x9 4k display today we have something

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quite special this display from philips is the 499 p9h and it's a 1440p

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super ultra wide display with a double

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wide 32 by 9 aspect ratio which means

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that what we're effectively looking at here is a bezel-free single display

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setup where we've got the equivalent of two 27-inch monitors side-by-side with

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no bezel in between them so we can completely seamlessly interact with both

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of our vms how do you do that you might be asking

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well well did you do that yeah this energy is still kind of trying to work

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out the kinks of their 2.0 release so i decided to use a different piece of

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software just kind of switch things up called share mouse which

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is some unfortunately aggro marketing but hey if it works it works and for the

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most part although there are some glitches like you can see my macOS

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cursor is actually still kind of ghosted over here there you go and you

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can see kind of the the edge of my Windows cursor for the

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most part it actually does work we can move the cursor seamlessly from one of

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our displays over to the other as if the

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imaginary line down the middle didn't exist in fact actually

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we could probably do some really cool stuff like pretend that the whole thing

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is one machine so i actually don't know how to switch the wallpaper on a mac but i'm gonna go

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ahead and do this one nice

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it's an abomination isn't it beautiful

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oh i like this too lttstore.com buy a water bottle okay then so we're good

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essentially what we've got here is two

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ryzen 5 3600 systems but

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on one machine we're running macOS and on the other one we're running Windows

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with seamless mouse movement between them which means if i wanted to

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i could browse the internet over here in

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safari and then potentially use an apple magic

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trackpad for gesture control while i fire up let's say a game like shadow of

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the tomb raider over on the other side wait am i just running in a circle right

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now yes so i'm like okay i'm bored of

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playing video games or whatever and i go over and i

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browse the forum then i'm just like oh yeah you know what i'm gonna go back to

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playing video games freaking nuts yeah and you can set up a

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keyboard shortcut to switch automatically so you don't even need to alt tab we just haven't set that up yet

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so let's say gameplay isn't your number one priority maybe you're a content

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creator like a youtuber or a twitch streamer and that's kind of more your

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jam so what you could do then is capture some gameplay with shadowplay or obs and

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then port that directly over to the mac by dragging and dropping and there you

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can use that if you're more comfortable with it check this out so i just grabbed

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the clip that i recorded right now while you were talking dragged it over the

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middle line and bloop there it is

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let's see what the playback looks like

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and there it is boom nice just like that

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now doesn't copy that quickly we're limited

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to about 20 megabytes a second so there's probably some work the developer

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could do on that but hey the footage is

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there now one thing i did want to mention is that we didn't manage to log

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into the app store we think it might be something to do with our copy of final

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cut pro being on my consumer registered apple account and

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this being a developer only os because

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it's still the preview but hey the point is if you're comfortable editing in final cut pro you can create your

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content on Windows and then you can edit it together on the mac and then you

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could log into youtube on Windows and

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you could upload it from Windows if you wanted to

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pretty cool best of all if you want you can select just one of the vms for full

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productivity with the press of a button and another button and another button

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and another button this monitors they told us it was going

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to be just like one button to switch yeah yeah they said that they could

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actually set it up to just switch by a single button but as far as i can tell

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no but it does have a kvm that is the keyboard video mouse

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rendition of kbm

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red hat so what's cool about that at the very least is that

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if you want to use just one set of peripherals for both of your os's you

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can by plugging in through the monitor right um let me just switch inputs here

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obviously i could change it to full resolution

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but yeah as we can see it's being a little bit dumb and also our mac needs to be

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unplugged and replugged sometimes in order to pick up there it

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is yeah that's just apple things i think okay it's

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a little janky but what's cool about our setup here is that it doesn't even have

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to be Windows and macOS it's just that thanks to the macOS catalina beta mac

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os now supports not just virtualized storage like Anthony mentioned before

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that allowed us to take our single PCIe gen 4 so like this high performance 2

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terabyte SSD and split it up but it even

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supports other virtio devices now so we can get access to near native speeds

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over the network as well like imagine what it would be like to take a machine

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like this and be able to split something like the upcoming 16 core ryzen 9 3950x

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i mean even without all the pci express

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lanes and memory bandwidth that you could get from something like a thread

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ripper you'd be compromising very little

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jankiness aside with a dual setup like this

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so i mean maybe we should come back to this concept when that launches make

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sure you guys are subscribed and stay tuned because if nothing else we'll

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definitely be checking out virtualization on the upcoming mac pro

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yeah and by that time i think that there's a lot more that i could do to smooth out the experience overall

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like having a virtualized 9p shared drive between the two os's that lets it

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basically become a network drive that native speeds

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but that's all we have time for today so if you haven't seen it already check out

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