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this is an extremely unusual motherboard and it's going to get a pretty quick and

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unceremonious unboxing because i want to get straight down to it today this came

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to us straight from a factory in china that it actually

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took us months to get in contact with and convince them to send us one of

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these as soon as i saw this i absolutely had to have one on the one

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side you've got a completely normal motherboard with an lga 1151 socket and

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a couple of memory slots and some io and all that kind of thing and on the other

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side is a graphics card in fact the

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manufacturer claims that that is a gtx

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1050 ti so we're not talking about your

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grandma's onboard graphics here we're talking a fully gaming capable

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graphics card soldered right onto a

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motherboard so the first question for us to answer is why is this on here most

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industrial applications either don't need much GPU at all and can make do

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with onboard or they need a lot in which case they wouldn't want it soldered

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directly to the motherboard then the second question we want to answer is is

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this thing any good so let's take it for a test drive shall

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was just about to point out that instead of a 20 or 24 pin connector from a you

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know more standard internal power supply this motherboard actually gets all of

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its power from this dc plug on the edge of the board right here

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when i realized uh-oh that the plug they sent me from the office isn't gonna fit

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in there now i was able to determine from the manufacturer's website that it

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requires 19 volt power so it's at least correct in that sense and it's got

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enough amperage to run all the hardware that i intend to install on here so

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that's all good but unfortunately what i didn't know was which pins were supposed

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to be which and the only references that i could find to this connector didn't

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seem to indicate that there was an industry standard fortunately we can

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determine which ones are supposed to be the grounds fairly easily just by

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grabbing a ground like the housing on a usb port and checking for which pins

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have very little resistance those are going to be our grounds so as i

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suspected it's the ones closer here and which pins are our power so that's going

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to be these two right here with the much higher resistance but then

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i didn't end up having to pursue that route of like ripping the connector off

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of the power adapter and then jamming wires into those holes because they

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actually found one that would work that we borrowed from a different system that

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seems to have both the same pin out and

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the same locking connector so progress

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we're back at it let's talk about what else is unusual

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about this motherboard so the form factor is something that i have actually

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never seen before this is the size approximately of a micro atx motherboard

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but it doesn't have the same mounting holes it doesn't have any pci express

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expansion slots the i o is all over the

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place so we've got a bunch of it on the back here we've got HDMI

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gigabit Ethernet usb 3 SATA

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audio like why does SATA need to be

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on what is apparently the rear panel of whatever device this is intended to be

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installed in and then making matters even crazier is over on the other side

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of the board we've got mostly internal connectors usb 3 lvds so these are video

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outputs another HDMI port okay and then more SATA so wait that's

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an external HDMI port and internal SATA

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and then that's internal SATA and an external HDMI port what is the front

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side of whatever case this goes in i don't know i don't understand and then

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the last thing that weirds me out is this mix of what feels like very low end

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design choices like the fact that there's no cooling on the vrms for the

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GPU or for the CPU for that matter

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with things that are generally considered to be high end on gaming

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boards like for example this little button right here is a nice convenient

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little cmos clear switch i don't really know why i'm freaking out though because

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none of this should surprise me i mean obviously i you know you never encounter

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something like this at the local micro center but that doesn't mean that boards

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with unusual layouts or features are

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something that i've never encountered before like if you've ever hung around on a trade floor like computex for

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example they it's just full of motherboard manufacturers you've never

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heard of with walls covered in designs

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that you could never imagine any purpose for and what likely happened the reason

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that this exists zeal all

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made the z a z-a-s-k-1050-embedded motherboard is

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probably because some customer at some point requested this design and they

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figured well we made it already anyway if anyone else

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wants it we might as well list it on alibaba and then if they buy it then

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you know we can sell these things you probably noticed by now that this takes

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laptop sized memory modules as opposed to desktop ones that's pretty common in

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these types of embedded motherboards here's some rip jaws 3200 cl 16

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uh i really doubt that these are going to work but let's let's go let's go for

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the moonshot here the CPU i installed is a core i7 7700k

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and in theory it should be compatible i3i5 and i7 6 then second gen it's what

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it lists on the website but one thing i'm a little worried about is this seems

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to be one that we liquid metaled at some point and it seems to be seeping out

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from under the ihs that can cause problems

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like what is this is that just like a random dram chip and

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like i don't even know what this chip does i'm gonna use the 1500 watt power

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supply again a little bit overkill i think we're close now if i had to guess

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i'd say this HDMI is the gpus HDMI and

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this one comes off the onboard video or something like that finding a power

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brick that plugs into it was only like a third of the battle though

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so yes right connector but i also needed it to be 19 volt which this is and have

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enough power for as you guys might have noticed i'm not in significant amount of

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hardware so 7 700 k is like 95 watts or

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whatever and then a 1050 ti is whatever

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that is probably somewhere in the same neighborhood somewhere in like 75 85

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range so this is 19 volt 13.1 m so it's

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about 250 watts here k mode exception not

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handled i hate it when my k-mode exception doesn't get handled well isn't that

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interesting here i thought i was just doing a quick off-camera SSD swap so i

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could put a fresh Windows install on this thing and then i was still getting

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errors so i tried a couple different memory modules and i was still getting

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errors just trying to install Windows and lo and behold

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remember that liquid metal that i pointed out and said oh gee i hope this

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isn't a problem uh it might be a problem that's the underside of the ihs and you

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can see where it's kind of dripped down here

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and here all over the CPU package there's liquid

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metal hopefully cleaning it up will resolve the issue

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but honestly i uh have my doubts right now last idea i've

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got a crazy hunch that Linux might behave a little bit better with this

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either weird or defective hardware so i've loaded up a

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live bootable version of ubuntu on that usb drive and i'm gonna go ahead and

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fire this puppy up whoa whoa ho

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NVIDIA gp107 GeForce gtx 1050 ti okay

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hold on a second it's working by the way i never followed up on what happened

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with uh trying the other HDMI port that's a debugging port that is not an

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HDMI port so that didn't work now it's working

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no way you gotta oh no steam won't install any

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usb you have got to be kidding me can i do a

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hot swap rooney here hey all right we up basically i tried to

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launch shadow of the tomb raider and the weird pre-launcher thing

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says your current active CPU governor is not optimized you can still play the

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game but may experience performance issues how do i change it

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there's i think there was an app that i used to use

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oh my god it's probably on demand what they're probably recommending is performance

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which is full throttle wait your computer's graphics card or driver is

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not supported by the game what well why not i installed the NVIDIA

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driver i think oh this is very good news my graphics driver definitely installed

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because i'm now running at 4k 60hz which makes more sense for a 1050. HDMI 2.0 is

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working no it still doesn't like my active CPU governor whatever i'm going

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to continue anyway hey no warning about the graphics driver

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good tip all right i'm going to try and give this a shot i'm definitely not

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going to try and run at 4k app is not responding okay

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let's try something else you know what i think it is i think it's a dead graphics

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card a lot of those errors that i got when i was trying to install Windows

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seemed to be related to hardware directly i have now done CPU intensive

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things and not had any crashes in Linux

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look at that line through the screen there i think we do have

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a defective graphics card in this thing it's gone now but that is a strong

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argument against a fully integrated solution like this isn't it not only

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does it cost more but if something goes wrong you're left with no options to

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swap things in and out for diagnosis and

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once you've confirmed that there is in fact a problem there is nothing you can

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do aside from just get a new one 150 frames per second

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that actually does sound probably about right is that GPU working now oh yeah

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definitely working all right give me that d glue

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ah okay oh wow no that looks pretty good

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oh that is pretty nice well i don't know how much of that the

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editor's gonna use but long story short it's working perfectly right now with

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performance that about meets my expectations for this class of hardware

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i'm getting 130 to 150 frames per second

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in cs go at 1080 with things i wouldn't say cranked but definitely

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high and it's

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running smoothly and fine so i don't know what that was with all the Windows

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errors and i don't know what that was with the instability i initially

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experienced with Linux but what i can tell you is that this is

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100 not worth it for people like you and me

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because whether we do have a dead graphics card or whether we don't it's

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clear that this solution makes troubleshooting more difficult and even

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if you do determine what the problem is replacing something impossible and it

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actually costs significantly more now as for why this exists in the first place i

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do have some ideas one might be a dvr like a a video

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surveillance system or something like that that relies on a light amount of

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GPU compute in order to perform better or perform facial recognition or

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something like that another idea i had was maybe it's a control board for some

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kind of piece of industrial equipment or medical equipment but with all the

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issues i had i sure hope it doesn't end up in any medical equipment um that does

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that requires x86 compatibility and maybe uses the GPU for real-time

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rendering of something is working on like i don't know maybe it's a cnc machine and it

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shows a a visualization of what it's doing or uh one other weird idea i had

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was maybe it's for like a budget game console or or something whatever it's

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for i'm sure that the manufacturer had

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to work closely with the integrator to ensure that they had a better experience

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great headphones if you guys enjoyed this video maybe check out the one we did it must have

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been over a year ago but we checked out like five weird graphics cards just

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super unusual graphics cards maybe not as weird as this motherboard but

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definitely weird we're gonna have that link down below as well so weird i just don't know what all that

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instability was in Windows and then even in Linux when i was running off the usb

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i got a weird crash a couple times and now it's just running flawlessly

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so bizarre shut her down and never look at this thing ever again because i hate

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it