streaming it's not showing viewers again hello everyone I'm not sure if this is
live or not we'll figure that out pretty soon
hopefully people are saying late I don't think it's
working oh this guy says live are we here can you guys hear us
actually on time he weird
again it's not local recording is it playing on
Twitch there's Echo yeah there we go
I'll probably take care of it welcome to the live stream everyone I
am your host is it still it's still laggy here you talk to them I'll try fig
this I don't think there's anything we can do because last time the issue was
uh um what four viers there's a leg um last
time the issue was that we were also local recording at the same time as we
were live streaming so that was that was definitely a
problem why don't I start with an update on what we have going in terms of CPU
Cooler testing now we can do that after or or
we can do that soon the liquid cooled Prodigy build is also finally done
now this is going to surprise you guys on our standard test bench we have now
tested pretty much every current generation liquid cooler with the
exception of the swifttech h220 so we've done the
h100i the Kraken x60 the
h110 the thermal take water
2.0 the is there anything else that covers all the major platforms right H9
110 h100i uh Silver Arrow oh yeah right
high-end air so the Silver Arrow extreme represents high-end air on our test
bench and the big winner very
surprisingly using our Noctua fans at about a th000 RPM so are are sometimes
undervolted when they're 120 mil and not undervolted when they're 140 mil fans
was actually the thermal t water 2.0 now
I don't know if the fans that are included with the water 2.0 extreme are
anything special because we actually never ran them but when it comes to
sheer water block pump
radiator this guy is the big winner it's got a it's got a thick rad it's not
purely surprising you just ruin the surprise now there's no surprise left
for them at all that's really awkward it's awkward
for for you because cuz now you're fired damn it yeah it's early
tonight I made it to the live stream first though no I fired you earlier
today when um I don't remember but diesel said something and then I fired
you oh but I think you did it because of something diesel said yeah that counts
still and fellow employees can get you
fired that that's actually a thing okay
okay so most liquid cooling nothing oh most
liquid cooling systems especially it's okay I'm just
showing for thickness sakes um most liquid cooling systems are about the
same thickness as the 120 mm fans that
we mount on them what you can see here with the water 2.0 extreme is that it's
actually significantly thicker than a regular fan so this is something that
I've talked about a fair amount where people will say lonus can you test the
whatever pre-filled liquid cooling kit to which
I'll reply well it still only has a 120
mm radiator it still isn't any thicker
so the limiting factor for these pre-done liquid cooling things is oh
we're back down to four viewers again but there's no way that's right it goes like this it's totally messed up
oh% messed up
um where was
I you're saying the differentiating factor right is the amount of heat that
the thing can actually dissipate because the CPU block designs honestly there's
really not that much that you can improve about them without sort of a
dramatic increase in the cost of manufacturing like look at what someone
like for an apple ghd that should give
you some I mean they charge as much for a block as a lot of these pre-done
liquid coolers keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going what
keep going they're saying the sound is low yeah no I can fix that too you can't
fix that from there no no that that won't do it um we put the other mic on
no it's okay it's okay it's okay here it's not even turned up how's the
feed now guys is the feed clear now
there we go how's the sound now I think I fixed the feed okay sound is fine for
me sound is a smidge low sound is low sound is fine okay whatever I just
turned it up quite a bit so okay so anyway the limiting factor is the
radiator itself because you can take heat away from the CPU as much as you
want but if you don't have some way to
dissipate it to the air then there's nothing you can do so why does this dual
120 mm slightly thicker rad beat a dual
140 mm rad because it's all about surface area it's how much copper and
aluminum can you put the water in contact with that generates the
performance so in the case of single 120 millimeter RADS you could probably make
them like this thick and you'd never get
that same performance that you get out of this larger surface area because so
much of it is wasted with The Fan Hub in the middle and the edges which aren't
getting any air flow that the actual amount of cooling surface area is not
very high yeah not only that but there's a law of diminishing returns as you
thicken things that leads you to eventually you get this thick and the
fan no matter what fan you put on it can barely even draw air through the
radiator fins so that is why this was actually a great balance so how how much
did this beat the h110 by oh I'm putting on the spot he's on
the spot I can bring up numbers I think it was four was it four degrees four was
it really that much I think it might have been oh no the h110 beat beat the
Kraken by four the Kraken by four the Kraken was I think I think it's messed
up yeah we think there's something wrong with our Kraken x60 like there's no way
it should be generating results like that but
um this one did beat the h110 though probably what by like a couple degrees
or something like that so so this is the winner just because of the thicker
radiator the problem with going with a thicker dual radiator though is a lot of
cases just barely fit an h110 or an
h110i because the uh the vrm heat sinks
on the top of your motherboard are going to interfere with anything that's
thicker so case compatibility for the water 2.0 extreme will be lower but it
is as of right now according to our testing methodology which has us using
none of the fans that are included with anything but our own separate
highquality pressure optimized fans this is our number one choice so we'll be
releasing all of those cooler reviews over the next little while and you guys
can download the graphs off of our it
beat h110 by one degree um yeah so h110 by one degree
sorry so it's very very narrow margin of Victory but a victory nonetheless it's a
120 mm versus a 140 mm so like that's pretty awesome M&M's
are delicious I finished my dinner before the live stream today though
you're still eating though it's not much better it doesn't make that much of a
difference that it's candy is it worse that it's optional eating that I totally
don't have to dobly because before the whole excuse was like oh I didn't eat
all day but you just ate I did I had two plates of dinner it was awesome yeah and
now you're having you have no excuse now
do you like a candy no I'm good it's warm from my pocket that's
gross at least it's not warm from my back pocket let's let's let's move along
okay that thud we have been promising
you guys we have been promising you guys a
liquid cooled bit Phoenix Prodigy for
about 300 bazillion years and actually well since launch
it's been a long time and since the launch we have intended every day to
build that liquid cooled Prodigy and show you guys so we have done it that's
okay I'm just going to dump it on the floor we filmed the ncch tips episode
where we not only show off the liquid cooled Prodigy but also do a build guide
for how to build your own water cooled Prodigy from bit Phoenix so this is for
those of you who don't know pretty much one of the bossest ITX enclosures on the
Block so it's got kind of um a power
maish looking frame it's a little bit wider than most chassis would be on the
side it's got ventilation on the back you can see the orientation of the
motherboard is actually horizontal so then there's a 120 or 140 mm uh thing
there and then you got your power supply which is bottom mounted okay the bottom
has a filtered intake for the power supply and things start to get uh I'll
get my lovely assistant slick to go ahead and pull off the side panel here
this is where things start to get interesting so we got a lot of cool
Sweet Rock and Hardware mounted in here
and this is what it looks like so this is our liquid cooled Prodigy we have
gone with um a fairly conservative a fairly conservative
configuration sort of so okay uh you
know what I'll get uh can I get you to
hold this and then I'll I'll point at stuff okay so first of all here we've
got a dual 120 mm Raider uh dual 120 mm
alphao nexos nexos uh 45 Nexus xt45 it's
an all copper rad so the frame the fins
the tubes everything in there is copper then over here at the back we have
another oh that came that came loose because the uh mounting hole isn't quite
lined up right uhoh oh the screw came out that's that's a problem well okay
what are you pointing at I can't see it the oh I see it I see it I see it is it
the block no it's the uh oh my goodness
I hope this didn't damage anything that could be a big problem what is it it's
the uh the rad at the back came out oh
cuz I um I only put in two screws cuz I was lazy okay it's back on okay so
there's a nexos xt45 single 120 mm rad
if we were to mod the top of the case see in the roof there where there's room
for dual 120s there's no room now because this one here blocks the
clearance that you and actually they both block what clearance you'd need to
install a dual 120 rad there but you could probably put another single 120
rad there if you drilled your own hole so that's uh that's an idea for any of
you modders out there for our graphics card because we see that keeps coming
out uh it's because the um put two
screws I mean more than two screws in yeah no the problem too though is that
the uh the heads for these go right through the fan holes so scre yeah
they're really really small so there's nothing I can do right now nice though the copper screws yeah copper screws
which is sort of balling but I guess they saved a little bit on the uh on the
making the head smaller okay so for the block we've gone with a GTX 670 with an
alpha cool GTX 670 block again all
copper so these are copper plugs here which is really cool and then you can
see the copper of the block itself in here there's going to be more close-ups
of this in the NC Tech tips episode so don't worry about that and then the
front of it is so mirrored that we can probably show you guys there's our light
there you go there's presumably our camera somewhere around there don't
worry it's over there if you could see our camera you'd know that it's not
mounted properly on the tripod and just has a piece of cardboard holding it up
um which is cool for those of you who are asking why I'm wearing this shirt I
actually own two of them which allows me to uh allows me to wash them
and wear them at the same time seic 520
wat power supply reservoirs mounted here you could put in a longer graphics card
but we wouldn't be able to use this spot to mount the reservoir I really liked
this spot for the res because it allows me to put it above the pump which is
down there in the very bottom without um sort of any difficulty and without
drilling any additional holes and then let's go ahead and open up the top so
they can see what we did in terms of wire
management inside the case and tubing
management so let's go ahead and flip this bad boy down here oh man you can't
see that at all how well can you hold this cuz I'm going to here no no no here
here no no no come back it's not going to focus there it's okay we just need
more light here feel like a Teletubby yeah I know
right everyone's looking at my stomach okay so inside here you can see the uh
the tubes mounted to the hold on this isn't
working and it is working okay so there's the tubes mounted to the Dual
rad here's the tubes mounted to the single rad back here then you can see
the Apple ghd water block way down there in its guts 16 gigs of
patriot memory and you can see that the
water block for the GPU tilt it down there we go is oh up lift up but keep it
tilted down can you do that awesome you're the man right oh something fell
no no it's okay um that's just the pad for the pump okay yeah the question so
there are the fittings on the back of the GPU block and I think that pretty
much kind of covers it so the the water cooled bit Phoenix Prodigy did you show
them the copper like uh stop fittings uh
oh we can give them a closeup of that sort of so there's the copper stop
fittings that are also for the All Copper radiators hopefully they can go
do a closeup if you want that's okay that's good enough um so yeah there you
go balling machine so
3570k GTX 670 uh three thick 120 mm worth of um
radiator um well inspectre fans because they came
in the case and we didn't really have anything else handy I'm going to turn
this light off because I think it's Wrecking everything but it's finally
done so you guys can check out you guys
can check out our guide on how to build your own it's not as in-depth as the
ultimate water cooling guide that we produced a long time ago like not like
here's how to screw in a fitting yeah yeah but that was pretty elaborate yeah
but it's more like here's the little things that you'll need to know you kind
of already know how to water cool here's how to water cool a prodigy yeah so
everyone should just go and go and build
a prodigy now hey did we change the uh the name of the twitch thing I don't
think so ah update there we go all right
so why don't we do some Twitter Q&A while slick goes and finds us a topic to
talk about that crazy Russian thing right
there medor over Russia and it's like freaking huge and it's paused right
before it kind of starts so you can show people okay well we better do that then
it's pretty crazy is this muted no mute
there we go all right guys meteor
time so you'll see it see it coming right there oh wow and then it's like
way bigger than you thought and then it kind of goes and
kind of fizzes out a little bit right there and then you can kind of he comes
comes around the corner you can see it kind of like exploded a little bit and
then fizzed out wow yeah like serious
business and apparently there was more than just that one huh I haven't like
read into it very much I just heard about it last night and then decided I'd
try and find a video for it that we could show people because that's like
pretty intense and this guy just keeps on cruising along imagine you were
driving down the road and you saw that above I know like what the I like we we
still have it open in the side window and the guy just
yeah it's like he it's like he uh it's like he doesn't even realize like the
crazy thing that's going on he's passing this guy he's in a hurry to get home to
his family and make sure that he you know they didn't get crushed or
something or maybe he just drives like that I heard a rumor that one of them hit a uh zinc plant and it just like
crushed the whole top of the building and everything just really bad wow like
like I'm pretty sure there was quite a bit more than just this one maybe if we
looked at the astrological signs more carefully we' have seen this
coming I'm going to go look
more oh
God Slick's not a believer in
astrology sck why don't you believe in astrology um no for those of you who
don't uh who those of you who who are not familiar with astrology it is the
science of the time okay I can't even
say that was a straight face um that's not astronomy astronomy is a real thing
astrology astrology is uh the thing
where the time that you're born dictates something about your personality or I'm
a Scorpio so this means I have to marry this personed this month and that means
you're going to make tons of money this month yeah or like uh you know you're
you're a Taurus so you're impatient or whatever else and yeah it's one of those
things it's one of those things that helps me kill some time while I get Twitter going
uh the the New York Times with the Tesla
yeah that was crazy model uh can you tell me what you did with the keyboard
no because I didn't oh okay so there was
a big thing with the New York Times um
in the last in the last little bit here where Tesla sent the New York Times
Reporter reviewer um associate that's
okay I got it uh a Tesla vehicle and he
was supposed to create you know an article an unbiased impartial uh
analysis of the car and he came back
with a with an article that was very critical of the Tesla vehicle saying
that it wasn't um you know it lost its
charge and it just you know wasn't didn't charge properly and just just
generally very very negative about it and this was after um one of those guys
in the UK Top Gear did a review on it as well and Tesla had already found some
kind of sketchy stuff with theirs like they said it ran out of power it's a fully
electric vehicle and they have a shot of it running out of power and then they have they like overlay the sound of a
Dying motor but it's on a fully electric car so if it runs out of power it
doesn't like chug down like a motor yeah so people were like what and then Top
Gear eventually after like they were in court about it and all this kind of
stuff and then Top Gear eventually was like yeah okay whatever we kind of FIB
that shot we made it up so after that
now New York Times pulls this and Tesla was worried about any other problematic
stuff so they put a black box in the car and they were like yeah you just kind of
drove around a parking lot a whole bunch and you had like the temperature in the
cabin was like 75 degrees at all points in time and he claimed that he was
Cruise controlled at 52 miles or at 52
kilm an hour I don't remember what it was probably miles near probably miles
yeah yeah okay um but he was actually at like 75 and like he just like kind of
made up a whole bunch of stuff and did a whole bunch of weird practices like like
not distance in certain areas and just
it's just really really sketchy and so basically their editorial Integrity is
under Fire big time here because why
would you give a negative review to such an exciting Innovative technology if
you're not on the take getting the money yeah
like what's the point why why how do you benefit from this so that's it's not a
legitimate review at that point yeah that's sort of a big deal right now so
um so the the only logical concl conclusion that we can come to is that
you should get all of your news directly from
us because we are not taking any money from like a you know oil company or
automotive company to uh bring you biased reviews of graphics cards and
like the the one thing is there's one thing to be said for like a sponsored
spot and then there's another thing to be said when you get paid off to be
against something yes like that's and we
have no problem with a sponsored spot sponsored spot is good especially if a
sponsored spot is something that you already like anyway I would have no
problem here I will list companies that I would have no problem and I'm sure I
hope none of you can really disagree with this I'd have no problem taking a
sponsored spot from Intel AMD
NVIDIA um ASUS Corsair companies that
know their stuff Kingston there's more there's a bunch more like there's lots
more antech they build good stuff I mean they're power supplies do do you
remember the soldering job on that new power
saw I was like it's kind of beautiful what you could frame that yeah you could
frame that you you could call that art no one would know the difference because
it was beautiful so there's companies that I would have no problem taking a
sponsored spot from but if we were to take a sponsored spot from Intel on an
AMD CPU review that wouldn't really work
give it a negative review and then yeah
you guys probably shouldn't watch our videos anymore just saying that would be kind
of the Tipping Point speaking of not watching our videos anymore um I've
gotten some complaints that people aren't getting notifications in their
subscription box that we have new videos um I've actually gotten a couple and
I've noticed viewers viewership has gone down in the last few days so I don't
know if YouTube's bugged out but one guy said that the solution for him was to
unsubscribe and resubscribe at the like right at the same time and that took
care of it and now he's getting us showing up in his subbox so um just kind
of throwing that out there if you guys wanted to get our videos and not getting
them then that might be a way to take care of wait that meteor that exp bring
up uh Twitter that meteorite that exploded over Russia was only one and it
damaged okay so that 500 people that so
that same one we saw it wasn't multiple like I was that was probably a piece of
it though yeah yeah so that same one that we saw in that video hit the zinc
plant that I was talking about it was not multiple 500 people that's kind of
that's crazy are you going to dye your hair again probably not uh budget gaming
CPU 82 Bucks versus I'd probably go with the AMD one
cuz the Pentium one cannot be overclocked at all and AP uh yeah fix
the camera angle yeah I thought I fixed it is it like
falling cuz I'm here
again I think it might be turning maybe tighten the spots sure
seems pretty seems pretty tight to Me Maybe I just adjusted it stupidly last
time there we go now you can see us uh the
Russian air defense intercepted the meteorite and blew it up to reduce the
size and a vered catastrophe okay good
work people are saying they saw water dripping out of The Prodigy I didn't see
any personally yeah I saw it I didn't put the I didn't put the cap on the top
of the reservoir too tightly we're we're taking this build apart yeah we're going
to take it apart like immediately so we're done with it yeah it's partially
taken apart uh would a swift tech h220 perform in The Prodigy that would make
an awesome and practical yes it would in fact what I would probably do is I would
throw another 120 mil rat on there and you're ready to go and that avoids the
issue with mounting space for reservoirs
and pumps because the reservoir is part of the radiator and the pump is good
well one thing that would be kind of tough with the Swift Tech unit actually
is there's you'd have to mount it you
know what I don't want to guarantee that because the h220 has a longer tank at
the bottom to be a res as well and I'm not 100% sure if there's clearance for
that so if you didn't put a fan in the back here you could probably fit it
there maybe facing the other way maybe maybe in the top yeah yeah yeah are
Samsung 840 Pro ssds better than Intel's 520s
yes 520s are getting a little bit old now yeah it's a little it's a little
dated it's a sand Force drive so what is there to really say about it static
constantly I use onboard sound is that why very possibly yes onboard sound
should just go away yeah budget oh okay
that was twice um for fan control what do you prefer a manual controller pwm
this is actually a good discussion topic so um well we both have the same one do
we both have the same one yeah not necessarily why what do you prefer no I
said we both have the same one one of what uh fan controller oh fan controller
okay but he says I think he just means in general what do you prefer does you
mean manual controller as in like like a separate thing
and then pwm is on the motherboard uh I
was going to interpret it as analog versus pwm fan control okay okay so why
don't we talk about that a little bit these are fan connectors they're blurry
you can't see them but don't worry about it this one has three pins and this one
has four pins so the three pin one has a
pin for positive a pin for negative and then a pin that is a an RPM sensor that
tells you if the fan is spinning how fast it's spinning and if it stops
spinning okay the way to control this fan is to reduce the voltage so computer
fans all pretty much run at 12 Vols DC and that's when they run at the correct
speed you can overvolt them and you can have them run faster but it'll burn out
the motor sooner and you can undervolt them which has the benefit of making
them quieter but at the cost of air flow
because they won't spin as fast if you undervolt too far what tends to happen
is particularly on cheap fans they'll tick or they'll whine and if you
undervolt again too far they'll have trouble starting so they'll kind of go
like this and they'll never actually get past
that Tipping Point and get started but even if you have it at like five volts
if you start it manually it can often keep going even at a very very very slow
speed just needs to start that momentum yeah needs to get that momentum going
okay so that's three pin uh four pin pwm fans have a fourth
pin called pulse width modulation pin I made that up
but don't worry about it so it's a fourth pin in the connector and a fourth
wire that runs to the fan these fans can
be controlled by simply undervolting them because you just don't connect the
fourth pin to anything or don't send any signal down it and you can just under
bolt it and it can spin slower but pulse width modulation actually controls the
fan in a different way so what it does is instead of yeah see he's he's doing
it controls the fan like this so instead
of applying a constant 12v voltage to it
it will go okay here's a 12 Vol oh not now here's 12vt not now here's 12v not
now so what that does is by applying 12 volts you always have enough momentum to
start the fan which is one of the advantages of pwm but you don't have to um something
you always have enough to start the fan right but you don't have to spin it at
full speed because it's going burst 12 burst 12 burst 12 just keep spinning it
so it just keeps moving yeah it's like hitting your finger against a fan so it
continually rotates yeah it's
like hitting it at full force that's a good that's a good analogy good job good
job you're not fired tonight does that does that unfire me from before yeah so
I'm back at zero again no because I fired you once earlier already so you're
at negative one no so I'm at one one
yeah one time being fired okay so uh so pwm fan control okay the disadvantage of
pwm fan control is that it requires a controller it requires a chipset inside
the fan and inside the fan controller itself so that'll be built into your
motherboard or your fan controller whether it's uh you know nqbe T balancer
or whatever else um and these are often
not compatible and incompatible pwm fan
controllers can cause things like noises or grinding noises or just just kind of
bad things just very bad things so um
there's actually a a third method and that is pwm control over three pin fans
but that can only really be done by fairly Advanced controllers like the one
that we both use which can do uh voltage
control or pwm control it's the mcubed T balancer which is freaking awesome when
you can get it to work and I'm going to have an Eminem so why don't you explain what a t balancer does uh a t balancer
is it's a microcontroller it's a little board that you can put you don't have to
display what you're eating it's delicious though look at my prize ni can
enjoy it with me oh my goodness um it's
it's a little yeah it's a little module you can link them up to other ones to
add more fans to it you can do whatever but basically it's the central holy crap
okay I'll be back in a minute what are you doing don't worry about
it okay oh he might be going and getting
one I know he has one we both have one anyways so you can hook up a whole bunch
of fans to it um I'm getting spam text
messages and I'm woring worried that something's happening on the stream uh
uh twitch tell me if something's
wrong nope okay everything looks fine um
yeah so it's basically an awesome fan controller you can Branch there's only like three or four headers on it but
like I said you can add another module that add fan that adds fans to it or you
can just splitter off of those in the control sections so I how I have mine
set up is all the fans that are up on my radiator I have in one section and then
uh all the fans in the front of my case are on another and then the bottom and
back fan are both on another one so then based on certain temperature curves for
all of those three different zones those fans will change speed so if I'm doing
nothing on my computer my radiator fans will turn off because that can idle and
be totally fine and my CPU won't get in trouble at all it only hits like 35 with
no fan spinning so that's totally fine um but then the second I start playing a
game or something all those fans will turn on so it can Aid in cooling my CPU
so those fan curves are pretty nice you can do stuff like like that in fan expert and some other um motherboard
controller ones but it's a little bit more elegant on the T
balancer M cubed T balancer um the
software for it is really messed up though it's really hard to move uh use
apparently lus got it working a lot better than I did and he said that he
downloaded the German version and then installed an English language pack which
was better than just downloading the English version so that's kind of funky
but apparently it worked um I've tried a few different fan
controllers but none of them were fully satisfying except for the MBE t b oh oh
that's fantastic there you go I was thinking
about whipping these out so whatever you were talking about
now uh is not nearly as interesting as
us sitting here with weapons on the uh on the live
stream they're not real guns yeah not real guns guys BB guns although they
come with realistic mag
action yeah sliding bolt and uh oh yeah foldable stock
adjustable sights adjustable sights that's it it really yeah you have to
turn the screws but yeah they're fully adjustable sites I have no idea that's
kind of awesome uh 40 round mag uh co2
powered and pretty pretty reasonable pretty reasonable replicas so um
yeah we're pretty excited about sort of I I had there was someone asking on the
uh on the stream about the a secret
project that we've done some teasers of
on uh on Twitter and we can't really
show it to you yet unfortunately but I can tell you that it will be out soon
that's probably really loud oh yeah that is probably loud okay I won't play the gun um I can tell you that it will be
out soon and for those of you complaining about the choppy video
there's nothing we can do about it because it is probably the a media card
it looks fine on our oh it does okay that's true um I'm not sure what it is
and these actually are not the guns that
we used in the super secret project we acquired these um sort of temporarily as
a I put it in the Attic again okay yeah we acquired these as a means of filming
something similar to the super secret project but hopefully with like replicas
instead of paintball a paintball marker
which is not that realistic looking so
um there you have it these are our new toys that we're doing something with but
I can't tell you guys um necessarily
what's coming but I will say that it involves Diesel's Diesel's talents and
after effects so yeah stay tuned guys
stay tuned if you're not already subscribed to the Techquickie Channel
Channel make sure that you subscribed to the Techquickie Channel because that is
where all of the stuff will be going not on the lus tech tips channel are we're
not posting the Epic one on channel no that's going to go on Tech cookie okay
yeah it's pretty epic though it's pretty
epic I'm going to be tweeting that out like nuts it's actually really cool yeah
like hands down the coolest thing we've done yeah yeah by by far it's the best
uh the best video we've ever made oh yeah yeah like the Intel walkthr was
pretty cool um that's true they're on
completely different playing yeah that's that's totally a different they can't really compete with each other the Intel
walkthrough was pretty epic but this one is just in a completely different realm
of epicness um but anyway okay so we'll put
that aside for now
um that that was it sort of sorry what were you talking about I never actually
went and got a new topic I just went and got the gun m t balance here but I
covered it oh you covered it already okay uh I don't have any other topics
that was all you had for tonight you don't have anything I do what do you
have I just don't know what they are because I didn't go look at them instead of uh going and getting a gun to play
with um oh yeah uh dell is trying to go
private again I thought they did they are getting resistance from some of
their major stakeholders who are asking for
completely unreasonable payouts on the
uh on the stocks that they still have so I think there's one group that owns like
8% and one group that owns like 4% or something like that and they're asking
for a value that's like 20% higher than
what Dell has already shot up to following the news about the
reacquisition of the stocks back so it's it so so so it was here and then Dell
sort of went oh okay we're going to reacquire everything at this amount so
people glommed on and bought it at anything less than that because he
um Michael Dell and I think it's someone else said look we're going to buy
everything at this price and then now that that's done these guys are going oh
well we should get this much for it because the Stock's worth this much and
this is supposed to be a buyout right so you can't just buy it at this price
because it's worth more but the argument is that if it had been worth more then
it would be um it wouldn't be worried about doing that yeah like if it had
been worth more it wouldn't have only jumped up because they were talking about reacquiring it at that price um
which leads me to a discussion topic that we actually talked about a few
weeks back which was the Cisco uh sale
of lynis to Belin so I think this is interesting
because I I know enough about lynis and what goes on over there to know that the
business unit is profitable at least well okay at least here in Canada so I
don't know about necessarily every market right I know it's profitable I
it' be hard to imagine it's not profitable yep I know it's self-
sustaining yep so it it covers the
people who actually work there and it's
being sold off as an entire business unit so the whole thing is just kind of
going the somewhere else the point is
what uh stockholders want is this is
like if this is the profitability line even if you're up here but plateauing
they don't care they want you to be ramping up the whole time yes so Revenue
needs to go up profitability needs to go
up and market share needs to go up and
if all of those numbers aren't going up then that's bad so that's where I feel
like some very strange decisions get made why is Dell going private and sort
of this sort of leads me to because they
need to be able to do things internally
that don't necessarily look good to a stockholder and you know someone like uh
like New Egg for example has tried to go public a couple times now and the
problem every time was that new egg's
net margin was something like 1% now 1% is not a lot of money from a
stockholders perspective would you invest in a company that's making 1% not
really because as a stockholder that's not profitable for you right how are you
going to how are you going to make money by investing in this company whereas if
you are the owner of new EG and you're
making 1% on probably somewhere in the
neighborhood of2 billion to5 billion
yearly what do you care yeah 1% of that
no problem uh because that's that's the leftover after they pay everyone and
after everything's done so that's gains so as as a private company their model
works but as a public company they look like total you know like oh why you know
I'd rather invest in Intel where their profit margin is 40% or whatever else or
apple where their profit margin is what was it like 70% or something ridiculous
99.9% over 9,000 per. um they summon
money whenever they sell something right so why is why is why does Dell want to
go private because in order to be competitive in the PC space I mean a lot
of the viewers out there might think that a company like NC or Newegg or EVGA
or whoever else makes like a ton of money it's like well if they're charging
me $500 for a graphics card they're probably keeping $200 for themselves or
$100 uh no they're not first of all R&D
is insanely expensive well okay hold on I'm talking retailers right now though
okay yeah NVIDIA does okay you said EVGA yeah but EV oh that's true EVGA does
have R&D that's true uh because they do release custom cards things like towin
and their custom coolers R&D goes into a cooler like no doubt about that okay
fine you win um customers that un fire me
again am I at zero now no because you
embarrassed Me by proving me wrong so actually you're fired again
what that's not even fair okay one sec it's choppy I think I
can fix it what what what would you do restarting the card worked
last wow that is just super ridiculous
yeah it looks like um so anyway EVGA is
an example someone who actually right so they're even more Under the Gun there's
customer support there is um just like
stupid little things that you might not even think about like designing a box
like you have to have graphic designers you have to have people to admin your
stupid like Community Forum like there's everything costs money and uh like they
do giveaways and stuff in their Community forum and they have a lot of community contests and like they give
out money to people who win Bild of the month and they have their I can't even
remember what it's called but it's like they're even GGA mod team and like they
have like their Community embraced as well like so this whole thing is not
sustainable if you're a public company because there's no way you'd survive on
IT industry margins so Dell right is trying to get back to being competitive
they're trying to get lean again they're trying to get to the point where you
know the entire executive team can't be fired by a bunch of shareholders if they
you know make 1% or lose 2% for a
quarter in in orderorder to you know bring something really cool and
Innovative to the market that they couldn't do if they didn't if they
weren't able to just kind of throw money at it for a little bit and like make
things happen just get things going which will ultimately give them better
Market placement people will car more people buy more products but it's not immediately so people don't care and
shareholders a lot of the time can be very shortsighted yeah like you know
they talk about you know well I'm buying long or or or short or or whatever else
like that so anyone who's in it for short-term gain has zero interest in
Dell's survival 10 years from now what do they care they won't even be invested
in them anymore that's right so if Dell needs to make a decision like we're going to lose money for two years to get
ourselves competitive again they could never do it as a public company so which
leads me back to Cisco's decision to to let go of lynis why would you get rid of
a profitable self-contained business unit that has really no end in sight in
terms of like what we're going to stop needing routers I don't think so if
anything you know high-end routers are to going to become a bigger issue I mean
when everyone can get Google Fiber to their door yeah I'm going to want a
high-end router you're not going to want that stock thing no you're not it's just
not going to happen not going to happen and good because good Wiens to that
thing yeah I agree I mean Lyn's high-end AC router I think can push something
like 800 megabit um through the the
lanport like it can actually route at
that speed and I'm just like oh yeah no that that's the kind of consumer routers
we need um but because Cisco is a public
company and Cisco is accustomed to the kinds of margins that exist on
Enterprise grade networking gear which is basically like a one-time cost you do
the R&D there's a software there's a software component that is a huge part
of what that costs them but the actual Hardware I mean if you take apart a
$5,000 or a15 ,000 or a
$50,000 switch I can pretty much guarantee you okay maybe the $50,000 one
but something like a $15,000 switch I can pretty much guarantee you're not
going to find anything more complex in there than an Intel core
I3 no way there's no way so they're
making money on the solution rather than on the actual bomb cost so they could
sell as many as they want and no cares
were given about the R&D anymore because they moved a bunch of them so anyway
what lynxis did is it's a consumer brand so you can't make that much on it
consumers actually buy based on the actual freaking chipset that's in it if
you're not spending money making that router you don't get to just say oh well
we are Cisco I mean they rebranded all the links this router Cisco is if that
was going to help we are Cisco therefore we are worth 40% more than anyone else
even though someone like ASUS is innovating hugely in the networking
space speaking of which this but more on that in a bit you can you can hold it up
and be van a white if you'd like um I don't think I can keep a
straight face while you do that
um right so Cisco
talk Cisco can't just slap their name on it and go oh well we're Cisco so you
should pay this much more for it so maybe they can only make 15% on each
router so even though that's profitable it's not profitable enough to not erode
Cisco's overall profitability as a company and then stockold ERS look at
that and they go oh Cisco's lost their Mojo because this business unit is not
um Apple can yeah apple can well
whatever not okay the Apple breaks every rule yeah most of the like especially
like Enthusiast custom PC market margins are like pretty much not even there not
that much um so so right so anyway that
that is that is all of that let's talk about this thing because this thing's
freak am I'm going to whip it out you're going to whip it out right here on the
live stream yep that's oh oh that oh I
was getting excited there okay
um I don't know you talk about it you tested it it has okay it has first what
is it it is a internal network card okay it's a pce
ac66 here what's it sure it's hot no I'm
just kidding it's not hot but it's hot like it's cool oh and it's red too and I
Drop It Like It's Hot oh God
Okay so we've been doing some AC testing H Potato Hot Potato here okay okay I got
it I got it I was screwing something in I got it okay calm down but you've been
holding the Hot Potato too long you're dead now ow no it doesn't kill you it
just burns your hands whatever didn't you ever play Hot Potato as a kid play
Hot Potato with a grenade no you play Hot Potato and then at the end you make
out what we can do that part if you want
no oh my God that got interesting um yeah this this
got out of hand very quickly I need a monacle so I can just put that on every
time I say something like that you know I found a place that has
monal for only like three bucks yeah yeah yeah yeah they have uh they have
silver ones and gold ones we have to dress up in like crazy old school suits
and wear monocles and go around with these um yeah we would get arrested so
quick fast like so fast that would be
fantastic but that same site has like everything like they have you know how
you can get grouo Marx glasses but they're always like stupid like the the
mustache is blue they're like like they're just like they're always not
quite they're not the classic one how do you get the they have the classic one
cheap they have battle ready swords for like 6070 bucks that are actually
capable of being like smashed against each other yeah so battle ready means
you can hit them against each other and they're not just going to fall apart
yeah which which oh man guys never Clash
swords that are not actually like like tempered and folded and whatever the
good things that they do to swords are because if those things break even if
they're not that sharp shards of metal like explode and it's bad not good yeah
like really not bad uh really bad not good why don't you just talk about this
card okay so as you can see from the just absolute Beast antenna array that
comes along with it with three individual leads that go into the back
of the card like that it's pretty heavy duty I personally haven't really seen
any internal cards that can really I mean this thing has a heat sink on it
look at it a beast heat sink yeah it looks like I mean this looks like a
graphics card from not that many generations ago that looks like a graphics card like a like 610 like a
lowend one yeah like pretty much like I mean it's smaller than a graphics card
yeah but like like you're getting close this thing's nuts so I've been doing
testing over the last little while and we've released one video well it we
filmed a video but it's not released yet no but we released one from before from
the launch of AC from CES oh oh on AC
from the launch of AC so at that point in time we had tested a Media Bridge an
n450 uh USB wireless adapter the Media
Bridge is just like receives and then goes to Ethernet um n450 USB adapter and
then a AC USB adapter um the AC USB
adapter was USB 2 so it was bandwidth capped and there's a whole bunch of other weird stuff and that was also a
launch adapter so it just was not very optimized the uh AC usb2 adapter was at
like 110 seconds to transfer a gig and just failed epically um the n450 USB
adapter hit around 95 seconds which is
not that surprising it's about where it should hit the Media Bridge crushed both
of those and came in at about
27.3 seconds I think and that's decimal conversion so that's not
273 like it's it's yeah it's decimal conversion and then this guy just barely
beat it within margin of error that if I ran a whole bunch more tests they'd
probably be pretty much equal um at like
26.98 I think that's again decimal conversion um so that's pretty awesome
and we're looking at uh gigabit Ethernet being at about 11 seconds not
theoretical like actual the test that I did with those files at about 11 seconds
so when you got Wireless transferring a
gig at 26 seconds 27 seconds that's
pretty freaking awesome and like installation was fine it's just
PCI 1X PCI e1x and then there's no
driver problems or anything like that so it's really good to see it's just
absolutely beast that's the thing I like about it like a lot of wireless cards
you put in your computer I'm always just like oh everything in my computer looks
absolutely boss and I have this like random stupid PCV that just looks dumb
and then this one's all red and has a huge heat sink and has like serious
business and 10A I don't know it's very cool makes you feel like you actually
bought something that was worth $100 yeah instead of a lot of the wireless
adapters that are just like oh this is kind of garbage um speaking of garbage
um apple is talking about nothing to do
with garbage actually so the rumor on the rumor on the street is that apple is
looking into building a smart
watch so what would be your take on this
basically the idea would be that potentially using like uh curved glass
um such as you know is available from Corning wear um Corning I don't think
they call it Corning wear when it's just the glass so Corning
um so some kind of you know processor
that hopefully won't get that warm if you're going to wear it on your wrist all the time so it would have the
functionality of something like an iPod but it would be a watch natural flesh
heat sink um Microsoft apparently tried something like this back in 2003 and I
say apparently cuz I never heard about it at the time just like mof's tablet
just like just like Microsoft you know pushed tablet and then the market just
wasn't ready so here's the question is the market ready for a
smartwatch I don't think so and I'd love to take Twitter I'd love to take Twitter
contributions on this guys so tweet is the market ready for a smartwatch how
does that fit into your daily routine
now there's two different angles that I'm going to come out with this at this from one angle is I don't think so the
other one is definitely um the I don't think unque position no I know the I
don't think so defitely think so not the the I don't think so angle is everyone
is going for bigger faster more powerful phones so the second you go to a
smartwatch that thing's useless and no one wants it but then at the same time
if you have a Note 2 and you want to do something really quickly you could just
go to your watch instead of pulling out this massive thing that's probably way too big for you so maybe it could
streamline the really really quick tasks that people want to do on their phone
who have things like note tws and Other M massive phones um and maybe people
find a use case in that but then if it's super expensive and people would need to
basically replace one or the other I don't think it's going to succeed well I
think we've seen time and time again that Apple finds way it's also Apple so
it'll probably be fun right so I mean
when the iPad was released most of the mocking that was done of of the iPad
was it's like a big phone but then
Apple's whole trick was well no no you need iPad and an iPhone yeah so they're
just going to add it as another and an eyewatch so there is no replacing going
on so I see the more likely use case
scenario but the okay weird I'm talking
but go ahead I thought you were you pointed at
me usually that's like flowing the conversation but or could mean you're
fired whatever um what was I going to say now
yeah but the like weird Apple my
like we can make people whatever think whatever they want kind of disappeared
with Steve Jobs okay but that doesn't
change the fact that okay okay and the funny thing again this comes to public
companies and the kind of scrutiny they get put under iPhone 5 is selling a butt
ton of phones yes but not at the scale
that it should be this is the exact this is the exact argument that you were on
the other side of the table for with Call of Duty you said Call of Duty is
dying Call of Duty sold very well it's just it didn't sell well on a scale you
can't FP like this hypocrite
um I also just don't really much care for Call of Duty
don't um okay whatever so iPhone 5 is
selling a butt ton of phones and that's lots of phones and all that's really
good but everyone sort of the Doom and Gloom I mean that the way that their
stock has just kind of been in freef Fall lately is that oh
well it's not selling at a there's no growth rate here so that's a big problem
so um right so even if the eyewatch is
not a success by Apple standards maybe it's not the next magical device like an
iPad do they still sell a buttload of units probably I think so yeah yeah I'm
if it's if it's released by Apple I'm sure it'll sell quite a few I know you
wouldn't buy an Apple product because you're some kind of a hippie no if they
release something that's good I will wow
are we if if I bought a tablet I would
probably buy an IP are we going to end up in this argument again
probably because the iPhone 4 is a good
phone okay mine's better yours was
released like two years later s was better I don't know about that you never
used it that's true but it was ugly so it was good looking okay okay okay never
mind never mind okay so the phone let's say or the the watch rather the watch
okay so let's say the watch is um an
Android watch okay can you think of a way that that watch integrates
seamlessly with the Android experience you have with the Galaxy S3 what could
it do CU it's probably going to have an MP3 player in it which I think is stupid
you can you well okay CU I believe well
hold on it is but it's not if you believe in wireless headphones yeah
exactly then it's fine yeah but if you don't that's just weird unless you're
wearing like long that's still weird I mean if they had wireless headphones
that were like light earbuds but really lightweight yeah like if they had like a
separate battery in each earbud so they could each just kind of sit in your ear I mean that's probably coming at some
point or it probably exist yeah so like that makes sense but other than that
it's kind of weird um but then I could just as easily have my phone next to the
badminton court and I could be listening to it from there yeah okay I think one
way to make it work really easily is you could sync uh you could probably sync
your phone to it Bluetooth and then you could get like text messages and stuff
on your watch yeah but typing on it would be a nightmare I almost would use
it yeah you could use that's a good point definitely and I would almost use
it just to like check things okay because if someone texts me and it's not
important and I'm out doing something it would be nice to just be able to go like this or I guess this side go like this
you can buy two yeah um go like this
read it be like okay this is important I need to go grab my phone I need to go
deal with this or yeah okay you can talk to him later okay okay so that's that's
it so more than just time and date and alarms but also any kind of notification
so if it's an Internet connected device
email uh Twitter text messages whatever
Facebook headlines headlines RSS stocks stocks um so then all of a sudden you
know what I think I've talked myself into this because if it's the problem
with any kind of a smart watch in the past I remember seeing like a
Kickstarter or something like that for a really crazy looking watch yeah that did
well actually I don't know where it's at now but it did well probably disappeared
because it's all about the ecos system that was what it's Android is it Android
pretty sure how well does it integrate with everything I again I haven't
followed it they might not even actually be manufactured yet remember Kickstarter can take while that was a long time ago
anyway so as long as it's integrated
well with an ecosystem that works I could probably get used to that idea I
think you'd have a hard time convincing a lot of people to wear a watch again
and I think one of the things that like you and me are pushing a lot of like
cool but pretty heavy duty Tech into the
watch it's going be interesting seeing them releasing something that powerful
that doesn't burn your wrist off but I think we're pretty much there at this
point or at least getting close I mean if they were using a 22 nanometer
process node to manufacture something as powerful as an iPhone 3S even seriously
that would be one small power sipping chip that is capable of pretty much
anything You' need to do it no it's it's interesting um it would be cool to get
our hands on one would you buy one personally probably no how much would
you pay for one like if it was $2 you'd
buy one right okay if it was $20 would you buy
one depends on really $20 yeah wow
you're so cheap yeah if it was $20 you wouldn't buy an Android powered invest
okay this is that's a little bit biased but
anyways bear in mind it's made by it's made by Apple so it'll be like gorgeous
so $20 will be just fine right okay like it's probably the piece of glass on it
comes out and it's like oh it can get different clock apps and it can play
music then I'm going to be like no I don't care cuz I like my Tokyo flash
Jaan what if it does all of the things that we've discussed already then yeah
then you're down how much I don't know but a fair amount $1 pretty boss
probably 200 that's pushing it that's pushing it
okay because I'm not that interested in this particular product but if it was at
a $200 price point I think that would sell like crazy okay so the thing about
watches though is uh you know Mar expectations for the category would be
extremely high I mean if you're someone like Seiko or swiss how terrified are
you right now I think you're scrambling your butt
off trying to get a manufacturing partnership with some Android developer
because you know Android's probably going to fight back and try and release their own and you're probably just going
oh God make us be the next Samsung because I mean watch guys have been able
to figure out for a long time how to
sorry keep going how to charge way too much for things like yeah yeah but at
the same time I think the classic kind of large old school like CU people still
buy people will go and buy less technically Advanced watches to get the
intricate really really nice really really finely done watches because it's
a Prestige thing okay and times change there was also a time when a cell phone
was a status symbol because it was and you wanted it to be big and you wanted
to show it off and you wanted to talk on it whereas then the trend was let's make
them as small as we freaking possibly can then that reversed and now they're
getting bigger I mean the the the the technology thing has taken over analog
stuff Y in in almost in almost every category you look at so what does that
mean for a traditional business like
watches where I think and Apple's so
good at product placement that's true they can make it an iconic fashion
statement movies whatever put it out there so no matter how much money Rolex
has to spend on product placement for rolex's which is I pretty much guarantee
you anyone here who owns a Rolex a huge chunk of the money you paid them was not
for the Rolex it was so that they could pay actors to wear them but anyway go
ahead and like placement and having stores in Las Vegas and like all that
kind of stuff yes um I think the big
thing is because watches are still a huge fashion statement out of all the
people that you know that wear watches most of them are probably wearing
because it looks very nice okay so that might apply to the 40 and 30 somethings
that's more what I mean but what about 20 years so let's say let's say apple
releases a watch within this calendar year what about in the year
2033 when an entire generation of people
has now grown up with the concept that a
watch should tell you your text messages
and you should be able to just kind of yell at it that the restaurant you're in
isn't very good and it'll post a one star review on your Urban Spoon like
that's interesting very interesting because there's constantly stuff online
oh my three-year-old daughter was with me in the dentist office and had no idea
what this magazine was and didn't and was trying to scroll down the page and
stuff and I'm just like like no idea I I told you that story yeah just like that
blows my freaking mind so you probably have a point there so the watch business
could just be dead in yes years the same
time they might be able to kind of
maintain because well Niche yeah well by
adapting is my kind of thing because I think apple is going to go out
manufacture their own do everything on their own like they always
do uh Google is going to go okay we're building an Android platform for watches
of course this is all speculation we're building an Android platform for watch
we have no idea if any of this is true not a clue
um uh we're building an Android platform for watches we need manufacturing
Partners right people are going to step up people are going to adapt their game
going to come out we can make this awesome looking watch you guys load the
software on it we're good to go or they're going to be Kodak and they're going to say no it's a fad and they're
going to be Kodak that's true or they'll be Kodak or
Polaroid or they'll be uh Zer Xerox
giving away Mouse in UI yeah so um so
yeah so that's our little talk about the potential yeah Thompson in the twitch
chat says Apple will patent the wrist strap
apple apple will somehow pen the word watch yeah and like you know the hands
that move around it or something um no we invented this yeah I
have no idea what you're talking about that's blasphemy we invented this I
thought that was I thought that was pretty cool um next up we have ah
yes so um I'm just going to say that I can't
say much about it but there is in the
mail right now Saturday
delivery a product that slick and I are
both extremely excited to get our hands on
I'm going to work on the weekend and be happy about it yes you
are and I'm not just saying that and
this is not a hint this has nothing to do with what
might be in the mail um people aren't even posting it in the
in the chat they're still talking about watches the color of this &em has
absolutely nothing to do with the oh
yeah you can have an m& if you want n what I have to steal it from you have to
steal it yeah you can't here no no it's
okay now you have it holding I don't want it you touched it it's gross
um so we have heard some things there's
rumors all over the place there we go holy crap I think the stream is really
far behind I don't know if you guys saw
the uh the rumor did you see that there was a posting I think it was Amazon or
new egg or some retailer posted a oh
yeah yes posted a product listing for the Titan card which is based on the
same GPU as NVIDIA's Tesla card so those
are compute level cards this isn't necessarily what we're talking about
that's in the mail no this is an entirely different conversation what
what was what's in the mail I don't know what's mail I is that like old
technology okay yeah M yeah yeah um so
there was for for Titan which is what a lot of people in the twitch chat are
talking about I have no idea why but for Titan um there was a there was a
mistaken listing an early listing on one of the retailers that had it for
$1,500 did you see that you saw that right
$1,500 had it with six gigs of RAM yep
um some ludicrous clock speed I think was it a 512 bit bus I think it they had
it listed as a five yeah I'm pretty sure they had it listed it was [ __ ] yeah
52 bit bus um so B would which would
make it by far the most expensive and
most complex um graphics
card ever like ever by far so we have
something in the mail that's not at all related to that that we are extremely
excited to check out and when we can talk about whatever may or
may not be in the mail we are incredibly excited about talking about that
whatever that is I just wanted to let you guys know that you can expect a
lonus tech tips video uh which we should probably be calling slick Tech tips
because he's going to be the one testing whatever may or may not be in the mail
hypothetically testing it the the thing that has something to do with this
nothing to do with that I don't know what is that why haven't you eaten that yet I gave it to you to eat you're just
going to steal another one and put that one back or something it's all about being deceptive with you so uh so yeah
guys um not everyone is going to have anything to talk about with relation to
this but we will um I see some comments in the twitch chat about the Aries 2 we
did get our hands on Aries 2 today but we only had about half an hour with it
so all we got done was an unboxing unfortunately but we did get like a nice
close look at it and I mean performance isn't exactly rocket surgery with that
card it performs like 2 797s in crossfire gahz edition cards that are
overclocked that is all I get asked a lot lonus how does a GTX 590 perform
well it performs exactly like two 580s that are slightly underclocked and
running an SLI there's no magic that
goes into a dual GPU card a dual GPU card is two single GPU cards with the
exception of a little bit of efficiency that might come from combining the vrm
and having it all in one card so there's a little bit less waste was that that
was all you were going to say I know that I'm just making sure but in terms
of the actual connectivity some people have speculated to me that there's
voodoo magic that goes on because the gpus are closer together and can
communicate better no they can't no they're not they're just as far apart
pretty much and the way that they communicate on that PCB together is via
an SLI Bridge or a crossfire Bridge that's all it is instead of a physical
Bridge that's separate it traces in the form of a bridge they didn't redesign
the GPU to build a dual GPU card I'm let that sink in for a
minute all right getting like getting
the manufacturing down and the R&D to make sure that it works all that kind of
stuff is a little bit yeah it's already enough but like it doesn't just
magically do better yeah honestly I prefer multiple
if you if you need that much I would prefer to go multiple single gpus
instead of one big grouping of gpus this
is a segment that I've wanted to do for a while actually so we're going to go
ahead and fire this up so if you guys aren't already
active uh oh hold on if you guys aren't already active on
the Linus Tech tips Forum uh this is a new segment that I'm going to be pulling
from the live stream from the lineus
tech tips forum and it is going to be called featured worklog of the week so
there is a section of the Forum that is all about sort of builds that people are
working on and this one just stood out to me like crazy so this is by The Forum
member Doug and hopefully there's a way to zoom this in some more because Doug's
rig deserves to be shown off in more
Glory than I am able to give it right now with this feeble pathetic right
click right click no no not not open
image new tab open image and new tab open image and new tab open IM there we
go oh fail never mind open image in new
tab there we go all right so this is
Doug's blue and white Shinobi build
which is absolutely beautiful it's all about the little touches in a build like
this so for example you can see on his Corsair power supply he has covered up
the Corsair branding with a match it looks like he's actually painted it
looks like it yeah with a matching paint that goes along with the paint that he's
put on his SSD beautiful sing as well yeah he's
gorgeous sing he's destroyed the warranty on these components but Doug
doesn't care because he's an Enthusiast and damn it that's what enthusiasts do
look at the hard drives the hard drives are also blue connectors are blue
everything down to the last sort of detail is just freaking fantastic so
we're going to pull up this this other image this was the one that really stood
out to me so what I like about it is how plain and clean it is and yet how
how just like out there it is with that color scheme like I've been on the
record saying a number of times that I think that ASUS's mainstream board color
scheme can just go put itself in someone
else's computer and not mine but Doug has made it work dang it so he's found
Corsair fans that also have that weird blue he's got white ones up here so he's
got blue and white he's done his sleeving very very Tastefully some
people do the one accent one some people do alternating I like what he's done
here because it's random but not random
like it just oh it just looks good it's random but it works yeah he's sleeved
his SATA cables as well so those look really sharp right here and actually in
terms of customization there's not much he's done all he did was cover the logo
on his water cooler okay or remove it
rather uh he has covered this with a
piece of metal okay so you can't see the mounting the mounting points for the
optical drive he's covered up this he's done some sleeving he painted his hard
drive in his SSD and that's it but it
looks really good the effect is more than the sum of the of the mods that
he's done so I thought this was a really really awesome rig and I'd love for more
of the lonus tech tips Forum community members to post their Rigs and I'm going
to make a point of choosing one at least one per week to Showcase during the live
stream so that everyone else can admire their work as well and we're going to
man I can't wait until vb5 goes gold
look at that though just that's fantastic beautiful sleeving on this I
haven't seen this one I really really like build doogs I won there a lot but I haven't seen this guys yeah no this one
just just really really really stood out to me so I thought that was really cool
wanted to share that with you guys I hope you enjoyed that gorgeous build I
actually you know what it's funny because normally the first thing I do when I look at a computer is I go oh
what components did he use and was that balanced and blah blah blah blah blah I
mean normally any any machine with a single 120 mm pre-done water cooling
thing is kind of sort of off my radar in terms of coolness Factor but what he's
done yeah is he's turned it into a system yeah not a some of the parts I
don't even know what graphics card he has didn't even look did you look did
you even notice no I noticed that I had the nice white accent yep that's all but
that's all he turned that computer into a work of art that is more than just the
Su of the parts so I thought that was exceptional and without actually that
much work I bet it took him a lot less time than I'm spending on my
ring yeah but I'm still sure it took him time like there was some really really
nicely done stuff in there that's true the the SSD cover was awesome the
removal of the logo on the Block was like it's all done very well it's
Quality quality work have you um have you read any Surface Pro reviews none
how do you not have any time to read anything what
where did that come from uh Surface Pro it's kind of a big deal uh made by this
company called Apple they they make a lot of tablets no was made by Microsoft
so Surface Pro I know of the Surface Pro I've read some Surface Pro reviews and
there not super fluent in it I know it's awesome but has really low battery life
all right stolling okay you're unfired ones okay um so the Surface Pro guys the
Surface Pro is out I've been asked to talk about it I don't have a unit
unfortunately um I don't really have a hookup with Microsoft hard to be
perfectly honest even the surface I'm going to I'm going to make a little
confession here I went and bought one and then I returned it cuz I didn't have
the money to keep it it was it was good it yeah it was good if I was going to
buy a tablet I would have seriously
weighed my options and considered a surface uh versus the iPad 2 that I use
now um actually versus pretty much anything I really liked surface so
Surface Pro steps up Microsoft's game in a couple of big ways number one is
they've added an x86 processor in this case it's an Intel processor which just
makes it like everything else looks like
a dog and pony show the fastest tablet out there well well when you compare it
against more traditional tablets running Tegra 3 processors um you know S4
processors running Apple processors just everything looks like a joke compared to
Surface Pro it's pretty Beast yeah so there's that keep x86 compatibility
meaning you can install any Windows compatible application on it that runs
on win 8 totally boss totally boss totally awesome um not because because
Microsoft opted for a high performance processor I can't remember is it a core
I 3 I I don't remember what it is like I said I did wanted to say I didn't read
about it because I didn't read about that much it's a real Chip not an atom
so unlike ASUS's Vio Tab smart which can
run x86 applications but isn't particularly high performance but does
get about 8 Hour battery life which is good the Surface Pro is just way faster
but suffers big time in terms of battery life so it only gets three and a half 4
and a half hours of battery yeah which I personally
find underwhelming it's hard to take
seriously these days because here I'm gonna I'm going to harp on why don't you
tell them what you do know about Surface Pro do back in a minute we covered most
of what I do know about Service Pro um the main reason why I was excited is the
x86 compatibility um come from a
programming school so tablets are pretty much useless for me other than reading
textbooks but and and like when I first showed up to my first class in
postsecondary I was like oh I want a tablet so I can like take notes on it
and I was like oh wait I can't install anything that's useful for me in this class yeah so it was just not feasible
so Surface Pro makes it actually feasible um so yeah Surface Pro does
that the thing that bothers me about it though is it's not a tablet in terms of
its form factor I wouldn't even consider or in terms it's a tablet in terms of it
form factor sorry it's a little thicker than a normal um but it's not AET in
terms of its battery life which to me is a big part of Mobility I would not and
you can I'll go on the record saying this in fact I'm doing it now I would not upgrade my iPad 2 to an iPad 3 or an
iPad 4 if you gave me the option to do a straight swap I wouldn't take it go
ahead and ask me why it be better life that's right you answered your own
question before whatever man uh iPad 2
has better battery life than either iPad 3 or iPad 4 which for me because I only
use it occasionally the only convenience
that comes out of a tablet is knowing that when I pick it up it still has a charge on it that's that's it that's the
only compelling thing about it I mean it's a tablet it's stupid you can't type
on it we were thinking about using a tablet as our slate before shots yes the
Slate is you write like the shot number and the take number and the scene number
Mak it easier in editing and then you do The Clapper thing and Diesel complained
that we didn't slate he's got a point but we totally didn't he does have a
um so we're thinking about doing that but then we're just like ah if it runs out of battery life then we're screwed
I'd rather just have a whiteboard and a marker because we know it'll always work
so so that to me is the convenience of a tablet and a tablet that only has a
4-Hour battery life is not a tablet to me that's a notebook even though the
form factor is gorgeous in a tablet and it still has the kickstand which I still
think is awesome but if I was going to buy something and Surface Pro is not
cheap it's around a thousand bucks if I was going to buy something like that why
don't I spend an extra $200 and get an AC S7
this laptop is Freo this is an awesome
notebook it has Gorilla Glass up on here it's super slim it's
about as thin as an iPhone well it's a little thicker than an iPhone 4 but it
is super slim it's okay the iPhone 4 is upstairs um I was going to grab it has a
1080p IPS screen so 1080p just like the surface pro has a full keyboard it is
light enough that I can hold it with two
f with one finger like this so it is actually
legit light enough to just oh yeah there's oh yeah there's an SSD okay here
here here let's do the uh size comparison with the SSD there you go so
it's extremely slim um it's light enough that you could legit walk around with it
in one hand and use it as a touchscreen device like a tablet why don't I just
get this because Surface Pro is not
really that much more portable because this folds so thin that you can tuck it
into I mean even by the time you put it in its sleeve it's not not much bigger
the only use case that I can even pretty much think about is remember when we
were flying to Vegas and I tried to whip out my laptop on the
plane okay right remember when I was like so in a confined space when you're
in a confined space which is not as applicable to most people in Canada but
around the world is more and more applicable it's kind of yeah trying to
use needing to use the keyboard when you're cramped up is difficult if you
can go like this and just tap on your tablet way easier but then this is a
touch screen is it not it's a touch screen so then you could use it in that
case with an on screen keyboard so here think about it so put yourself in a
plain seat and hold
this okay oh oh oh oh don't worry you
got this you got this under control can you use that on a plane um not even
really the keyboard because the same kind of situation but then the screen is
perfect easy to use of course I'm spinning I'm going to hit the table oh
barely made it if I type you that would be one nice thing if you could install
an app that would make it so if you actually tapped on the screen that it
would bring up an on screen keyboard oh
my God I'm using pwm control to keep him spinning cuz he hits
me with full force a rthm every time not
very keeps my momentum up so if you could actually tap on the screen I'm
going to try and keep this facing the cam that's not going to work if you
could tap on the screen and have it whoa
whoa this is what the live stream would be like if we were both like under the
influence of something like who Whoa man
if you could just tap on the screen then
stop hitting it it's a nice laptop leave it alone oh okay fine fair enough it can
handle it I know it can hand Gorilla Glass okay go ahead anyways if you could
if it like if you could maybe change what mode it was in and be like I only
want to use the screen and then have it so if it would react like a tablet so if
you click on a text area like a notepad if it would automatically bring up a
typing screen that would be cool is that available is that willing to bet that's
a thing I'm willing to bet that you can turn off that would be very cool there
has to be a way to do that like there just has to be because that would be fantastic like settings and one thing
that kind of solves this whole thing we is there it is it's in the charms menu
which is the convenient place in Windows 8 where you can access pretty much
everything settings keyboard touch beautiful but does that if I go to a
different app here Windows Okay Internet Explorer there you
go okay you're not showing them what you're doing but yeah there you go
keyboard I clicked in a text area so email phone number to log into Facebook
and that automatically brought up the keyboard so that's fine another laptop
that comes across this this has an awesome hinge but another laptop that
goes Bey above and beyond is the uh yoga
yes right the yoga so that's that's another that's one that has a hinge that
goes all the way around so you can use it as a tablet and as a notebook and is
actually not that expensive compared to Surface Pro as well so I guess to me
Surface Pro fills a niche that I didn't
have however Haswell Haswell is going to be a big
deal because Surface Pro is using like a 13 watt chip or something like that like
it's it's low tens of Watts or like we
talked about this before we're both actually pretty surprised if you remember this conversation that they
didn't just wait we know they're under like marketing pressure all that kind of
stuff they something would be is going
to be so much better so Surface Pro 2
which has potentially eight hours of battery life all of a sudden thousand
bucks I may be buying one that's probably the Sweet Spot starts to be
like okay that's actually awesome yeah so Surface Pro one I think I'm I'm a
little bit I'm a little bit weary of uh where did that keyboard go it always
vanishes I know I think I'm I think it's always you who moves it I literally
never touch it because it's so small that I can't it
why did you spin me around in my chair until I couldn't see anything well that was just like
cool um okay so let's go back to Twitter for a little
bit 389 new interactions I'm sorry that
we've ignored Twitter you guys inter explor is the only we haven't done
anything with that laptop yeah that laptop it's a laner unit so we haven't
exactly uh we didn't bother install browsers using stock stuff what are you
doing man can John just kind of um not
have inappropriate stuff all over his Twitter feed look at his at handle I
know why does he do this cuz he's John
my friend is selling a 7970 and offered to trade for my GTX 670 and 20
bucks yeah go for it unless it has bad coil wine and
because you're buying it used you have the opportunity to check it out first are you excited for Bungie's new game
Destiny trailer this Sunday isn't it a little early to be excited if we don't
even have a trailer yet and I like with what uh what is it take two Studios I
like what the new company did with it I was a pretty big fan of Halo for Halo 1
and Halo 2 and then Halo 3 just completely ruined it for me and then the
newest Halo I played a little bit but I'm not exactly a console gamer at all
anymore so it was kind of awkward because I'm like how do I do things what
you're spinning again just trying to imagine playing with a that's pretty
much it cuz keyboard mous or die but anyways it seemed a lot more polished
than like reach which was kind of terrible so no not particularly
excited uh good question Scott you have
to figure out where the green wire would be and uh Bridge those ones um don't
guess wrong though what's the best computer case for 70 bucks hard to say
there's not that much that's that great for 70 bucks uh probably a cheap Cooler
Master would be your best bet yeah and the MSI Interceptor is on sale for
$49.99 is the Shinobi around 70 bucks
sometimes on promo I think it is watch for PR
that's where you're going to get your good cases at that price yeah uh with
the new consoles using eight core processors will feature PC games a better multicore support you know what I
would have said that last generation yeah cuz cell are Xbox has
three cores which back then was a big deal and cell has how many cores does
cell have like six or something stupid like that remember I don't remember it
has a bunch of cores stronger though why because they didn't optimize it last
time right even though there was lots of multicore Awesomeness going on in there
still think it'll be a little bit stronger well we can hope uh we don't
need smart everything even fridges have the smart title I think phones are enough Mitch you're wrong and in 20
years we can have this conversation again and I can tell you how wrong you are because everything is going to be
smart and everything is going to be connected when okay um stuff like
fridges and stuff like washing machines that are all coming out with like
Wireless connectivity and all this ridiculous stuff sounds nuts until you
start hearing use cases of people that are actually developing stuff for it yes
um a friend and I worked on a Arduino
controller rig was it Arduino or was it
pretty sure it was Arduino um and we have it set up in the bottom of his
apartment complex so that he can like he has it tucked in behind the washing
machine and the dryer so people don't see it and he just connects it together
and then puts his wash in and it sends him an email when it's done right so he
doesn't have to keep checking on it random times or even bother to figure out how long the thing takes because it
just sends him an email right away and the problem right now is how fragmented
it is because there's all these competing companies and all these
competing standards once someone strong enough whether it's a general electric
or whether it's like once someone strong enough comes in and says no this is how
we're doing it and standards can start being built around that then we're in
for very exciting times what if you're yes because honestly right now a
lot of it sucks which is why you're going why do I need a smart fridge
because most of them suck right why do I a smart TV smart TVs are stupid they
don't work with a bunch of different file types and the webcam is terrible cuz most of them suck but it's coming
and these incremental improvements have to come AR drone V1 the one on the wall
behind me had a terrible camera not very good range the replacement has HD and
works with wireless end and goes much further like these iterations have to
happen in order to ever deliver a truly finished product now imagine this what
if your smart TV could do more than just have a touchcreen on the front that you
can browse the web and look at recipes on what if your smart TV inte or your
smart TV your smart fridge integrated with every single item you had in your
fridge using cameras all over the place knew you had a tomato and all you had to
do was go on your tablet look at a recipe and go I'm going to make that and
your fridge would send you a shopping list for all the things you don't have yet or you can even go hey fridge what
can I make tonight what can I make or what do you recommend me because the
fridge knows what you like because of reviews you've given it that's right and
and the food that you actually have inside of it your fridge could set up uh
I mean okay here here here so work this into something like what Amazon's doing
with um with their same day shipping what if Amazon gets the infrastructure
figured out to the point where they can do food within like an hour or two all
of a sudden instead of you know take out from a restaurant you might be ordering
through your fridge your fridge might go oh okay it's almost time for dinner um
Tuesday's our macaroni night it could place an order automatically with Amazon
they could deliver it to you 2 hours later the fresh groceries arrive at your
door you put them on the stove you make the food and then you don't even have to
even inventory food necessarily in your fridge so much so it becomes an exercise
in in run rate and replenishment I mean we're going back to the Milkman yeah
pretty much I was actually just going to say we're going back to the Milkman concept that's right we're going back to
the Milkman concept what happened to fresh
food it's gone fresh food might be making a comeback because of Technology
like smart fridges so there that is my argument for smart fridges and why
they're not actually stupid well they're stupid now yeah yeah but like it's it's
the future we're looking into and when he was talking about iterations of
things like the AR drone we were just talking about that with the Surface Pro
yes right right okay the second one is what we're like we said The Sweet Spot
that's a very good point you're unfired again where am I even at I'm not sure
anymore figure greeings from lvia what about the rumors of postponing the AMD
8,000 series till next
year can we even I don't know there was a there was a thing on Hardware Conns so
we can well that was on Hardware con we can talk about the article okay I didn't
read that so AMD has already said that they're going to be refreshing the 7,000
series um this was an article on Hardware conu where Hardware conu says
AMD said so I don't have any kind of validation from AMD about this seriously
I don't actually no I don't but the guy I was talking to today he he knew
nothing um so it's going to be somewhere between a 7800 series or 7700 series and
a 7800 series as a refresh um at least
so that much they're talking about now so while it might not end up being
called 8,000 series AMD will be releasing some kind of GPU product some
at some point um according to the hardware conu article sometime in the
first half of 2013 so it's not like they're just you know going to lie there
and sort of you know have NVIDIA just
kind of like rub Titan in their face it's not not going
to be quite like that guys so I'm I'm excited to see what they're actually
doing and it wouldn't be the first time
one of these GPU makers supposed GPU
makers has gone and pulled some kind of
Rogue BS CIA tactic I mean 8,000 to
9,000 Series NVIDIA as a retailer when
NVIDIA launched the GTX 680 we all f it
was coming in at $5.99 NVIDIA pulled a price move okay
nobody knew this none of the add-in board Partners which they're not called
for NVIDIA they're called abps oh no Adin board Partners it's aibs for AMD
anyway this these are important distinctions uh none of the add-in board
partners for NVIDIA even knew so they were all charging their customers
according to a 599 sell price NVIDIA Dropped a Bomb like the day before
launch and dropped the price to $4.99 before it even launched
and I suspect they intended this all along so a lot of the rumors and a lot
of the stuff you see out there is intentional leaks that are meant to
mislead the competition and meant to sort of generate stir up Buzz commun
stir the pot and get people talking the amount of Buzz that's going around about
Titan is just absolutely insane like oh
yeah it's crazy nuts it's absolutely ridiculous like we've seen stuff like
this before but this is kind of up there
for the amount of Buzz we've ever seen like it's it's kind of cool it's an
interesting new aspect that they're taking it's gk10 Chip all that kind of
stuff like that's that's cool but still got any more topics uh actually kind of
this is my uh we haven't really sat and taken very many Twitter questions like
we just took a few okay want to do some now
sure that's USB mic for under $100 uh which scene is the Twitter scene
there we go best USB mic for under1 $100 I haven't tried tried way too many USB
mics this might be a better question for
diesel at diesel the intern um but I've
had a lot of really good experiences and read a lot of really good reviews of blue mics uh BL I have a Blue Snowball
and it's fantastic is that under $100 yep oh okay and my brother has a Blue
Yeti which I think is a lot closer to $100 if not slightly over it might be
like 89 or it might be 110 I don't know exactly where it is but it's somewhere
closer to the $100 price point they're generally extremely well regarded so
maybe it's not really good maybe there's some obscure brand like from like latva
that makes a better one but if you bought a Blue mic you'd probably be
satisfied they're really really good what was that site you were talking
about sorry man got no idea no context
um Singularity computers apparently makes an awesome custom Prodigy build so
if you guys aren't afraid of clicking links on the uh Twitter stream then go ahead and check that out that's cool we
made ours in like yeah ours was done in like what two two and a half hours three
hours not even that's including filming time oh yeah that's true that included filming the whole process so is the 7970
Matrix work worth the extra um no idea
DK is making a water block for it you should check with them about that as for
whether it's worth the extra hard to say it does perform better it is as of right
now this exact moment the highest
performing single GPU card however what I would probably do is I would hold out
for a little while and see if any kind of higher performance single GPU card
comes out hey guys I'm back went on a trip with the family missed a lot am I
invited to the tech tips team anymore Nick you are the man and um you're as
invited as you ever were did we ever invite him to anything uh we were
talking about it and then there was no communication and then I closed
invitations for the mod team oh bummer we're currently not recruiting for the
mod team sorry ni sorry man um I would use a watch like that good what is the
battery life for that S7 not that great without the extra battery pack I'm not
that impressed it does have a pretty cool extra battery pack though but it
has a cool extra battery pack and it comes with it comes with it and mounts
and doesn't look stupid um so I think with the without the extra battery pack
I mean I haven't actually had it run out of battery on me yet or anything I I
haven't I haven't had it run out so it's hard to say I'm getting a Zonar Essence
STX next week because of Ulus yes you are cool now respect what is the best
AMD Mini ITX motherboard I don't even think there is a current gen one
I mean part of the problem is that uh pile driver and bulldozer uh put out so
much heat and the socket is so big and
there's so much overhead because of the mounting bracket it's really hard to build an ITX board for it so just go
Intel sorry um that that motherboard
yeah get a p8 z77 i whatever Deluxe the
good one yeah um was wondering what kind of hit to lifespan hold on I'll get
there oh no there's no there's no Windows 8 giveaway tonight actually I
could do one I have that copy of Windows 8 that I won at um
CES should we do another Windows 8 giveaway Just for Old Time sake sure but
this one's from us we can make whatever we want the question did you ever send
the prize winner to me from last week no
can you do that okay because you said you were
going to look it up you walked you walked to your computer and said I'm
going to go find it now I hope you can find
it I hope I can too okay so what should
we make our question for this week guys we're doing a Windows 8 Pro
giveaway um what's our question going to
be let's doesn't have to be about Windows anymore be about anything this
is ours now it's
ours you know what we never let them participate in the uh I I asked I asked
a question on Twitter and then we never actually took any of the answers what
was your question I don't remember like at all like do you
remember the black and yellow I that was uh guy sent it to me when I like first
started on Twitter and it was actually pretty boss buil he had an EMP power and
he had a lightning and you had all the stuff looked really good yes a 200 R is
a pretty good budget case I mean it's budget so it's not that great but when
are you going to get a 4k monitor I probably not until they hit 1500 to two
grand I think that's my
threshold I just upgraded my monitors I'm not looking for upgrade for quite a
while um I haven't upgraded my monitor in over three years now yeah yeah well
before before that one it was 6 years
for my main Monitor and the secondary monitor I was using it was like 10 or 11
years for that one so I was pretty much due time um James asks any personal rig
updates there will be a personal rig update coming soon I promise uh the
personal rig is being worked on right now well not right now the second
because I'm live streaming but it is being worked on I pretty much always rag
on him for it but he is actually making ground now you saw that worked on right
there the motherboard is in it I actually haven't seen that last I saw
was GED wings uh yeah GED wings are in it I'm tweeting updates so I'm tweeting
pictures as I go um I don't really watch his Twitter so know yeah whatever man I
just got 50 megabit down internet what router should I get honestly it's
probably not that important for 50 megabit apparently you stole a blue
emem why do you tell them we are we are
working on oh yeah this is this is something we are working on benchmarks
for the 8350 versus the 3570 so you finished one test bench already right
yes I did the 8350 is done no wait what
357k on Windows 7 I thought we were
going to test on Windows 8 only I just did you just veto that yeah since when
can you veto things what do you think this is since you stopped benchmarking
stuff okay uh okay here is apparently a
link to the Titan online retail listing careful about that yeah we're not going
to click on it it's okay um when is the NDA no idea or at least if we did know
we couldn't say where did you get the tea balancer I ordered it online they
have notification SmartWatches already Sony mobile yeah they've had
notifications yeah but I want like the whole shebang yeah and this is why
friends don't let friends push pull um no no too
scary um and no that was not a Galaxy 780 that was a Galaxy
670 DS sends a suest suggestion when you
say you're going to do Twitter twittery Q and A how about actually doing
it where did that card even go okay okay
look at the it says on the yeah 670
right there there um smart watches have no place I always lose watches anyway
slicks right there underpowered and generally not good well hopefully that
all gets addressed yeah why not a
gauntlet great question smart
Gauntlet just yeah I mean that would be
so blinging it's so big you're automatically ganger I feel like I'm in
like
reboot ah the pebble that's right that was the one that was the one I was
thinking of Market's ready whenever Apple says so or Apple's really good at
figuring out when the Market's ready just saying that's true uh Google Glass
is another crazy one that's going yes for Apple watch if they make a
fast easy and not stupid to use okay that's very important like it has to be
good and the problem is um without Steve around they've been releasing some crap
Steve was still around I'm sure it would be good I'm sure Google or Apple Maps
would never have made it relas jobs there um David says I would pay anything
for an omni tool from Mass Effect
yeah yeah don't need a smartwatch because I have a nice watch and I have a
smartphone but then again I used to say the same thing about why would I need a
smartphone if I have a pocket PC and a phone but that's two devices right
that's the same thing yeah
but okay it's two two as opposed to 2 to3 is that what you're trying to say uh
Sony SmartWatch Android watch okay battery life will be a problem since
watches shouldn't be too big however blinged out watches a lot of the time
are big yeah very often they're really big you could check things look at
customizable watch control your phone MP3 look at GPS while you're walking NFC
would be actually kindy cool NFC would be really cool NFC would be balling but
NFC just destroys battery life yeah so
I'd be really interested to see that some type of like uh not even
necessarily NFC but like RFID technology
right okay just for like unlocking gateways or whatever watches are like
cars just a status symbol no matter the tech not necessarily it is though you
can buy a $4 Casio yeah but in a lot of
CAS like he has a point though I think that little niched market of like
ridiculously stupidly high-end watches that'll still exist yeah yeah but that
won't sustain the company completely for every
$250,000 watch that Rolex gets to sell they need to move some $25,000 ones
they're moving more than 10 of those for every one of those like they you need
everything oh yeah sure and I I mean not every car is a stat okay right but fancy
ones are I don't think I own anything that's a status
symbol I was just thinking my car is not a status symbol not necessarily status
symbols to most people but you have some canot has definitely that's true okay we
have different status symbols than most people do that's true hey I have 12
copies of Dota 2 and don't need them uh Dan
my suggestion would be head over to linch tips.com head over to the Forum
and see if you can find some cool community members maybe even you know
make it a fun little game for yourself find someone who left a great reply for
somebody and then just award them a key because they're awesome that's key and
leave a a note in the thread great reply thanks so much and we appreciate your
Pat would that would be boss if you did that that would be very well yeah
they're out there but not selling well again it's all about the Apple Factor no
one's really marketing them that hardcore yeah apple will Market it
hardcore okay no to the watch why don't
you just smash a glass bottle on your wrist what would you do if you fell over and SM I mean come on man you could make
the same argument about a smartphone why would you carry a piece of glass in your pocket if you fell over it could smash
it and hly it's going to be not glass
all the way around here and then glass just on the very top this be very very
very durable glass on sorry James sorry James Apple will find a way to make
people want one Ubuntu phone we've talked about Ubuntu phone at CES
slick and your ideas are good but the problem is the size so doesn't have to
be that big but screen size he's right screen size could be a factor although I
mean the thing about a watch is it's very sort of you know if you can't see
very yeah you're going like this like it's going to be pretty close closer
than most people hold their phones and as long as it has a retina display like
uh and I see look at me using Apple's branding terminology for things as long
as it has a high pixel per inch display high resolution high resol high pixel
density display High a display as long as it has a retina display I'm sure
it'll be fine not time yet when they can
make the Smartwatch replace the
phone or process for something like Google Glasses then maybe but that's how
the ecosystem will work is the phone might be like a processing offload for
the watch and the glasses that's what kind of what we were talking about is you connect it to your phone and then
your phone would actually do everything EOS to the watch
everything on the subject with the texting you can set up a quick message
so instead of typing you can select text just like when you're on your phone and
you get a text and you can be like sorry I can't I'm driving or whatever or when
you get a phone call you can reply with a text so that could be a really cool thing uh yep yeah there's the pebble
again which is really really cool I don't remember anything about it but I read about it at some point and I
thought it was cool what will it do and will there be internet plans how will it
work I'm sure there'll be internet plans what if it's not you're going to find
some way to try and monetize it for the
isps okay maybe there will probably be Wi-Fi and 3G version and Smart Watchers
could be kind of like a pager so we could be back to the pager concept it
could also just be tethering yep oh yeah it could just tether your smartphone
Apple will pull it off anyway I think that when we're okay so uh recommend
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all right guys I think that is pretty
much it we actually ran 15 minutes over today thank you for tuning into to the
live stream and we will see you guys next time uh I don't think I had any
more topics that I really really wanted to talk about oh yeah the Penny's gone
in Canada that was something I wanted to talk about like two weeks ago yeah
that's been a bit um and that's pretty much it good night
everyone or good morning or good afternoon or
I don't know good whatever is in with span of 24 hours good noon actually no
it won't be quite noon anywhere because it's a quarter quarter two the hour so
oh yeah so that's not really a thing yeah
um good evening possibly didn't cover
that yet possibly good dinner supper good
night good night
oh my God just stop the stream good night you need to go to bed I need to go
home you don't even know the reference do you no I don't oh okay well where is
it from here we go here we go here we here we go here we go here we go I might
know once you show me but I don't think so okay Monty Python job interview come
on have you seen it yeah okay well for those of you who haven't seen it I just
haven't seen Monty Python in a ridiculously long time remember to make
it quiet or at least mute so there the uh there's the silly job interview no no
I'm going to I'm going to turn it off so hopefully they can I really enjoy interviewing applicants for this
Management training
course
morning good afternoon good afternoon
yeah why did you ring the bell why do you um sounds pretty good
he's doing the uncomfortable hands thing yeah so uh so yeah so that that that was
the reference there that wasn't just random and we're actually turning off
now