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streaming it's not showing viewers again hello everyone I'm not sure if this is

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live or not we'll figure that out pretty soon

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hopefully people are saying late I don't think it's

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working oh this guy says live are we here can you guys hear us

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actually on time he weird

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again it's not local recording is it playing on

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Twitch there's Echo yeah there we go

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I'll probably take care of it welcome to the live stream everyone I

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am your host is it still it's still laggy here you talk to them I'll try fig

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this I don't think there's anything we can do because last time the issue was

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uh um what four viers there's a leg um last

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time the issue was that we were also local recording at the same time as we

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were live streaming so that was that was definitely a

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problem why don't I start with an update on what we have going in terms of CPU

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Cooler testing now we can do that after or or

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we can do that soon the liquid cooled Prodigy build is also finally done

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now this is going to surprise you guys on our standard test bench we have now

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tested pretty much every current generation liquid cooler with the

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exception of the swifttech h220 so we've done the

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h100i the Kraken x60 the

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h110 the thermal take water

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2.0 the is there anything else that covers all the major platforms right H9

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110 h100i uh Silver Arrow oh yeah right

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high-end air so the Silver Arrow extreme represents high-end air on our test

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bench and the big winner very

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surprisingly using our Noctua fans at about a th000 RPM so are are sometimes

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undervolted when they're 120 mil and not undervolted when they're 140 mil fans

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was actually the thermal t water 2.0 now

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I don't know if the fans that are included with the water 2.0 extreme are

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anything special because we actually never ran them but when it comes to

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sheer water block pump

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radiator this guy is the big winner it's got a it's got a thick rad it's not

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purely surprising you just ruin the surprise now there's no surprise left

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for them at all that's really awkward it's awkward

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for for you because cuz now you're fired damn it yeah it's early

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tonight I made it to the live stream first though no I fired you earlier

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today when um I don't remember but diesel said something and then I fired

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you oh but I think you did it because of something diesel said yeah that counts

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still and fellow employees can get you

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fired that that's actually a thing okay

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okay so most liquid cooling nothing oh most

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liquid cooling systems especially it's okay I'm just

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showing for thickness sakes um most liquid cooling systems are about the

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same thickness as the 120 mm fans that

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we mount on them what you can see here with the water 2.0 extreme is that it's

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actually significantly thicker than a regular fan so this is something that

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I've talked about a fair amount where people will say lonus can you test the

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whatever pre-filled liquid cooling kit to which

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I'll reply well it still only has a 120

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mm radiator it still isn't any thicker

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so the limiting factor for these pre-done liquid cooling things is oh

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we're back down to four viewers again but there's no way that's right it goes like this it's totally messed up

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oh% messed up

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um where was

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I you're saying the differentiating factor right is the amount of heat that

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the thing can actually dissipate because the CPU block designs honestly there's

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really not that much that you can improve about them without sort of a

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dramatic increase in the cost of manufacturing like look at what someone

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like for an apple ghd that should give

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you some I mean they charge as much for a block as a lot of these pre-done

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liquid coolers keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going what

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keep going they're saying the sound is low yeah no I can fix that too you can't

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fix that from there no no that that won't do it um we put the other mic on

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no it's okay it's okay it's okay here it's not even turned up how's the

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feed now guys is the feed clear now

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there we go how's the sound now I think I fixed the feed okay sound is fine for

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me sound is a smidge low sound is low sound is fine okay whatever I just

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turned it up quite a bit so okay so anyway the limiting factor is the

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radiator itself because you can take heat away from the CPU as much as you

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want but if you don't have some way to

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dissipate it to the air then there's nothing you can do so why does this dual

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120 mm slightly thicker rad beat a dual

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140 mm rad because it's all about surface area it's how much copper and

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aluminum can you put the water in contact with that generates the

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performance so in the case of single 120 millimeter RADS you could probably make

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them like this thick and you'd never get

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that same performance that you get out of this larger surface area because so

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much of it is wasted with The Fan Hub in the middle and the edges which aren't

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getting any air flow that the actual amount of cooling surface area is not

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very high yeah not only that but there's a law of diminishing returns as you

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thicken things that leads you to eventually you get this thick and the

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fan no matter what fan you put on it can barely even draw air through the

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radiator fins so that is why this was actually a great balance so how how much

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did this beat the h110 by oh I'm putting on the spot he's on

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the spot I can bring up numbers I think it was four was it four degrees four was

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it really that much I think it might have been oh no the h110 beat beat the

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Kraken by four the Kraken by four the Kraken was I think I think it's messed

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up yeah we think there's something wrong with our Kraken x60 like there's no way

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it should be generating results like that but

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um this one did beat the h110 though probably what by like a couple degrees

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or something like that so so this is the winner just because of the thicker

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radiator the problem with going with a thicker dual radiator though is a lot of

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cases just barely fit an h110 or an

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h110i because the uh the vrm heat sinks

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on the top of your motherboard are going to interfere with anything that's

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thicker so case compatibility for the water 2.0 extreme will be lower but it

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is as of right now according to our testing methodology which has us using

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none of the fans that are included with anything but our own separate

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highquality pressure optimized fans this is our number one choice so we'll be

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releasing all of those cooler reviews over the next little while and you guys

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can download the graphs off of our it

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beat h110 by one degree um yeah so h110 by one degree

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sorry so it's very very narrow margin of Victory but a victory nonetheless it's a

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120 mm versus a 140 mm so like that's pretty awesome M&M's

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are delicious I finished my dinner before the live stream today though

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you're still eating though it's not much better it doesn't make that much of a

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difference that it's candy is it worse that it's optional eating that I totally

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don't have to dobly because before the whole excuse was like oh I didn't eat

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all day but you just ate I did I had two plates of dinner it was awesome yeah and

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now you're having you have no excuse now

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do you like a candy no I'm good it's warm from my pocket that's

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gross at least it's not warm from my back pocket let's let's let's move along

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okay that thud we have been promising

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you guys we have been promising you guys a

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liquid cooled bit Phoenix Prodigy for

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about 300 bazillion years and actually well since launch

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it's been a long time and since the launch we have intended every day to

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build that liquid cooled Prodigy and show you guys so we have done it that's

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okay I'm just going to dump it on the floor we filmed the ncch tips episode

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where we not only show off the liquid cooled Prodigy but also do a build guide

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for how to build your own water cooled Prodigy from bit Phoenix so this is for

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those of you who don't know pretty much one of the bossest ITX enclosures on the

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Block so it's got kind of um a power

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maish looking frame it's a little bit wider than most chassis would be on the

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side it's got ventilation on the back you can see the orientation of the

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motherboard is actually horizontal so then there's a 120 or 140 mm uh thing

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there and then you got your power supply which is bottom mounted okay the bottom

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has a filtered intake for the power supply and things start to get uh I'll

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get my lovely assistant slick to go ahead and pull off the side panel here

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this is where things start to get interesting so we got a lot of cool

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Sweet Rock and Hardware mounted in here

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and this is what it looks like so this is our liquid cooled Prodigy we have

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gone with um a fairly conservative a fairly conservative

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configuration sort of so okay uh you

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know what I'll get uh can I get you to

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hold this and then I'll I'll point at stuff okay so first of all here we've

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got a dual 120 mm Raider uh dual 120 mm

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alphao nexos nexos uh 45 Nexus xt45 it's

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an all copper rad so the frame the fins

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the tubes everything in there is copper then over here at the back we have

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another oh that came that came loose because the uh mounting hole isn't quite

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lined up right uhoh oh the screw came out that's that's a problem well okay

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what are you pointing at I can't see it the oh I see it I see it I see it is it

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the block no it's the uh oh my goodness

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I hope this didn't damage anything that could be a big problem what is it it's

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the uh the rad at the back came out oh

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cuz I um I only put in two screws cuz I was lazy okay it's back on okay so

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there's a nexos xt45 single 120 mm rad

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if we were to mod the top of the case see in the roof there where there's room

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for dual 120s there's no room now because this one here blocks the

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clearance that you and actually they both block what clearance you'd need to

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install a dual 120 rad there but you could probably put another single 120

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rad there if you drilled your own hole so that's uh that's an idea for any of

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you modders out there for our graphics card because we see that keeps coming

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out uh it's because the um put two

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screws I mean more than two screws in yeah no the problem too though is that

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the uh the heads for these go right through the fan holes so scre yeah

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they're really really small so there's nothing I can do right now nice though the copper screws yeah copper screws

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which is sort of balling but I guess they saved a little bit on the uh on the

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making the head smaller okay so for the block we've gone with a GTX 670 with an

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alpha cool GTX 670 block again all

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copper so these are copper plugs here which is really cool and then you can

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see the copper of the block itself in here there's going to be more close-ups

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of this in the NC Tech tips episode so don't worry about that and then the

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front of it is so mirrored that we can probably show you guys there's our light

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there you go there's presumably our camera somewhere around there don't

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worry it's over there if you could see our camera you'd know that it's not

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mounted properly on the tripod and just has a piece of cardboard holding it up

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um which is cool for those of you who are asking why I'm wearing this shirt I

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actually own two of them which allows me to uh allows me to wash them

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and wear them at the same time seic 520

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wat power supply reservoirs mounted here you could put in a longer graphics card

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but we wouldn't be able to use this spot to mount the reservoir I really liked

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this spot for the res because it allows me to put it above the pump which is

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down there in the very bottom without um sort of any difficulty and without

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drilling any additional holes and then let's go ahead and open up the top so

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they can see what we did in terms of wire

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management inside the case and tubing

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management so let's go ahead and flip this bad boy down here oh man you can't

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see that at all how well can you hold this cuz I'm going to here no no no here

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here no no no come back it's not going to focus there it's okay we just need

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more light here feel like a Teletubby yeah I know

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right everyone's looking at my stomach okay so inside here you can see the uh

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the tubes mounted to the hold on this isn't

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working and it is working okay so there's the tubes mounted to the Dual

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rad here's the tubes mounted to the single rad back here then you can see

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the Apple ghd water block way down there in its guts 16 gigs of

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patriot memory and you can see that the

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water block for the GPU tilt it down there we go is oh up lift up but keep it

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tilted down can you do that awesome you're the man right oh something fell

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no no it's okay um that's just the pad for the pump okay yeah the question so

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there are the fittings on the back of the GPU block and I think that pretty

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much kind of covers it so the the water cooled bit Phoenix Prodigy did you show

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them the copper like uh stop fittings uh

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oh we can give them a closeup of that sort of so there's the copper stop

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fittings that are also for the All Copper radiators hopefully they can go

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do a closeup if you want that's okay that's good enough um so yeah there you

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go balling machine so

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3570k GTX 670 uh three thick 120 mm worth of um

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radiator um well inspectre fans because they came

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in the case and we didn't really have anything else handy I'm going to turn

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this light off because I think it's Wrecking everything but it's finally

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done so you guys can check out you guys

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can check out our guide on how to build your own it's not as in-depth as the

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ultimate water cooling guide that we produced a long time ago like not like

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here's how to screw in a fitting yeah yeah but that was pretty elaborate yeah

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but it's more like here's the little things that you'll need to know you kind

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of already know how to water cool here's how to water cool a prodigy yeah so

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everyone should just go and go and build

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a prodigy now hey did we change the uh the name of the twitch thing I don't

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think so ah update there we go all right

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so why don't we do some Twitter Q&A while slick goes and finds us a topic to

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talk about that crazy Russian thing right

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there medor over Russia and it's like freaking huge and it's paused right

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before it kind of starts so you can show people okay well we better do that then

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it's pretty crazy is this muted no mute

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there we go all right guys meteor

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time so you'll see it see it coming right there oh wow and then it's like

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way bigger than you thought and then it kind of goes and

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kind of fizzes out a little bit right there and then you can kind of he comes

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comes around the corner you can see it kind of like exploded a little bit and

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then fizzed out wow yeah like serious

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business and apparently there was more than just that one huh I haven't like

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read into it very much I just heard about it last night and then decided I'd

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try and find a video for it that we could show people because that's like

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pretty intense and this guy just keeps on cruising along imagine you were

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driving down the road and you saw that above I know like what the I like we we

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still have it open in the side window and the guy just

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yeah it's like he it's like he uh it's like he doesn't even realize like the

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crazy thing that's going on he's passing this guy he's in a hurry to get home to

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his family and make sure that he you know they didn't get crushed or

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something or maybe he just drives like that I heard a rumor that one of them hit a uh zinc plant and it just like

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crushed the whole top of the building and everything just really bad wow like

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like I'm pretty sure there was quite a bit more than just this one maybe if we

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looked at the astrological signs more carefully we' have seen this

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coming I'm going to go look

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more oh

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God Slick's not a believer in

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astrology sck why don't you believe in astrology um no for those of you who

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don't uh who those of you who who are not familiar with astrology it is the

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science of the time okay I can't even

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say that was a straight face um that's not astronomy astronomy is a real thing

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astrology astrology is uh the thing

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where the time that you're born dictates something about your personality or I'm

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a Scorpio so this means I have to marry this personed this month and that means

00:18:16.679 --> 00:18:22.919
you're going to make tons of money this month yeah or like uh you know you're

00:18:20.320 --> 00:18:26.600
you're a Taurus so you're impatient or whatever else and yeah it's one of those

00:18:25.360 --> 00:18:33.120
things it's one of those things that helps me kill some time while I get Twitter going

00:18:29.760 --> 00:18:35.440
uh the the New York Times with the Tesla

00:18:33.120 --> 00:18:40.799
yeah that was crazy model uh can you tell me what you did with the keyboard

00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:44.440
no because I didn't oh okay so there was

00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:46.360
a big thing with the New York Times um

00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:52.520
in the last in the last little bit here where Tesla sent the New York Times

00:18:49.320 --> 00:18:57.159
Reporter reviewer um associate that's

00:18:52.520 --> 00:18:59.440
okay I got it uh a Tesla vehicle and he

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was supposed to create you know an article an unbiased impartial uh

00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:07.640
analysis of the car and he came back

00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:14.360
with a with an article that was very critical of the Tesla vehicle saying

00:19:10.880 --> 00:19:16.360
that it wasn't um you know it lost its

00:19:14.360 --> 00:19:20.200
charge and it just you know wasn't didn't charge properly and just just

00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:25.679
generally very very negative about it and this was after um one of those guys

00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:29.280
in the UK Top Gear did a review on it as well and Tesla had already found some

00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:34.600
kind of sketchy stuff with theirs like they said it ran out of power it's a fully

00:19:33.159 --> 00:19:40.080
electric vehicle and they have a shot of it running out of power and then they have they like overlay the sound of a

00:19:37.280 --> 00:19:44.480
Dying motor but it's on a fully electric car so if it runs out of power it

00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:49.440
doesn't like chug down like a motor yeah so people were like what and then Top

00:19:46.760 --> 00:19:51.960
Gear eventually after like they were in court about it and all this kind of

00:19:50.679 --> 00:19:56.919
stuff and then Top Gear eventually was like yeah okay whatever we kind of FIB

00:19:53.760 --> 00:19:59.720
that shot we made it up so after that

00:19:56.919 --> 00:20:03.960
now New York Times pulls this and Tesla was worried about any other problematic

00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:07.799
stuff so they put a black box in the car and they were like yeah you just kind of

00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:11.799
drove around a parking lot a whole bunch and you had like the temperature in the

00:20:09.840 --> 00:20:16.760
cabin was like 75 degrees at all points in time and he claimed that he was

00:20:13.679 --> 00:20:18.080
Cruise controlled at 52 miles or at 52

00:20:16.760 --> 00:20:21.960
kilm an hour I don't remember what it was probably miles near probably miles

00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:25.679
yeah yeah okay um but he was actually at like 75 and like he just like kind of

00:20:24.280 --> 00:20:31.159
made up a whole bunch of stuff and did a whole bunch of weird practices like like

00:20:28.120 --> 00:20:33.400
not distance in certain areas and just

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it's just really really sketchy and so basically their editorial Integrity is

00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:41.600
under Fire big time here because why

00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:45.919
would you give a negative review to such an exciting Innovative technology if

00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:51.360
you're not on the take getting the money yeah

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like what's the point why why how do you benefit from this so that's it's not a

00:20:52.760 --> 00:20:58.600
legitimate review at that point yeah that's sort of a big deal right now so

00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:02.320
um so the the only logical concl conclusion that we can come to is that

00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:06.760
you should get all of your news directly from

00:21:03.919 --> 00:21:11.320
us because we are not taking any money from like a you know oil company or

00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:14.840
automotive company to uh bring you biased reviews of graphics cards and

00:21:13.240 --> 00:21:18.400
like the the one thing is there's one thing to be said for like a sponsored

00:21:16.520 --> 00:21:23.600
spot and then there's another thing to be said when you get paid off to be

00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:25.720
against something yes like that's and we

00:21:23.600 --> 00:21:29.240
have no problem with a sponsored spot sponsored spot is good especially if a

00:21:27.679 --> 00:21:33.279
sponsored spot is something that you already like anyway I would have no

00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:36.240
problem here I will list companies that I would have no problem and I'm sure I

00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:41.679
hope none of you can really disagree with this I'd have no problem taking a

00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:46.919
sponsored spot from Intel AMD

00:21:41.679 --> 00:21:48.840
NVIDIA um ASUS Corsair companies that

00:21:46.919 --> 00:21:53.200
know their stuff Kingston there's more there's a bunch more like there's lots

00:21:50.600 --> 00:21:58.039
more antech they build good stuff I mean they're power supplies do do you

00:21:55.200 --> 00:22:01.600
remember the soldering job on that new power

00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:06.360
saw I was like it's kind of beautiful what you could frame that yeah you could

00:22:04.600 --> 00:22:10.440
frame that you you could call that art no one would know the difference because

00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:13.880
it was beautiful so there's companies that I would have no problem taking a

00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:21.240
sponsored spot from but if we were to take a sponsored spot from Intel on an

00:22:17.760 --> 00:22:24.240
AMD CPU review that wouldn't really work

00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:25.640
give it a negative review and then yeah

00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:31.039
you guys probably shouldn't watch our videos anymore just saying that would be kind

00:22:29.360 --> 00:22:35.000
of the Tipping Point speaking of not watching our videos anymore um I've

00:22:33.400 --> 00:22:39.320
gotten some complaints that people aren't getting notifications in their

00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:43.360
subscription box that we have new videos um I've actually gotten a couple and

00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:46.799
I've noticed viewers viewership has gone down in the last few days so I don't

00:22:44.679 --> 00:22:51.279
know if YouTube's bugged out but one guy said that the solution for him was to

00:22:49.159 --> 00:22:54.559
unsubscribe and resubscribe at the like right at the same time and that took

00:22:53.360 --> 00:22:59.320
care of it and now he's getting us showing up in his subbox so um just kind

00:22:57.320 --> 00:23:02.799
of throwing that out there if you guys wanted to get our videos and not getting

00:23:01.440 --> 00:23:07.120
them then that might be a way to take care of wait that meteor that exp bring

00:23:04.919 --> 00:23:12.279
up uh Twitter that meteorite that exploded over Russia was only one and it

00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:13.880
damaged okay so that 500 people that so

00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:17.440
that same one we saw it wasn't multiple like I was that was probably a piece of

00:23:15.320 --> 00:23:20.240
it though yeah yeah so that same one that we saw in that video hit the zinc

00:23:19.080 --> 00:23:25.520
plant that I was talking about it was not multiple 500 people that's kind of

00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:31.240
that's crazy are you going to dye your hair again probably not uh budget gaming

00:23:28.520 --> 00:23:35.600
CPU 82 Bucks versus I'd probably go with the AMD one

00:23:34.159 --> 00:23:41.799
cuz the Pentium one cannot be overclocked at all and AP uh yeah fix

00:23:40.120 --> 00:23:46.679
the camera angle yeah I thought I fixed it is it like

00:23:43.400 --> 00:23:49.080
falling cuz I'm here

00:23:46.679 --> 00:23:56.240
again I think it might be turning maybe tighten the spots sure

00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:59.120
seems pretty seems pretty tight to Me Maybe I just adjusted it stupidly last

00:23:58.080 --> 00:24:04.520
time there we go now you can see us uh the

00:24:02.600 --> 00:24:09.320
Russian air defense intercepted the meteorite and blew it up to reduce the

00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:11.240
size and a vered catastrophe okay good

00:24:09.320 --> 00:24:14.600
work people are saying they saw water dripping out of The Prodigy I didn't see

00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:19.000
any personally yeah I saw it I didn't put the I didn't put the cap on the top

00:24:16.919 --> 00:24:22.279
of the reservoir too tightly we're we're taking this build apart yeah we're going

00:24:20.279 --> 00:24:26.799
to take it apart like immediately so we're done with it yeah it's partially

00:24:24.320 --> 00:24:30.440
taken apart uh would a swift tech h220 perform in The Prodigy that would make

00:24:28.159 --> 00:24:33.840
an awesome and practical yes it would in fact what I would probably do is I would

00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:38.720
throw another 120 mil rat on there and you're ready to go and that avoids the

00:24:35.720 --> 00:24:41.200
issue with mounting space for reservoirs

00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:46.720
and pumps because the reservoir is part of the radiator and the pump is good

00:24:45.360 --> 00:24:52.159
well one thing that would be kind of tough with the Swift Tech unit actually

00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:53.880
is there's you'd have to mount it you

00:24:52.159 --> 00:24:58.760
know what I don't want to guarantee that because the h220 has a longer tank at

00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:02.880
the bottom to be a res as well and I'm not 100% sure if there's clearance for

00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.279
that so if you didn't put a fan in the back here you could probably fit it

00:25:04.320 --> 00:25:10.399
there maybe facing the other way maybe maybe in the top yeah yeah yeah are

00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:13.880
Samsung 840 Pro ssds better than Intel's 520s

00:25:11.679 --> 00:25:17.399
yes 520s are getting a little bit old now yeah it's a little it's a little

00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:21.480
dated it's a sand Force drive so what is there to really say about it static

00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:28.320
constantly I use onboard sound is that why very possibly yes onboard sound

00:25:24.039 --> 00:25:30.640
should just go away yeah budget oh okay

00:25:28.320 --> 00:25:34.919
that was twice um for fan control what do you prefer a manual controller pwm

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:41.320
this is actually a good discussion topic so um well we both have the same one do

00:25:38.840 --> 00:25:46.679
we both have the same one yeah not necessarily why what do you prefer no I

00:25:44.320 --> 00:25:52.000
said we both have the same one one of what uh fan controller oh fan controller

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:56.120
okay but he says I think he just means in general what do you prefer does you

00:25:53.840 --> 00:26:02.120
mean manual controller as in like like a separate thing

00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:03.840
and then pwm is on the motherboard uh I

00:26:02.120 --> 00:26:09.240
was going to interpret it as analog versus pwm fan control okay okay so why

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:12.600
don't we talk about that a little bit these are fan connectors they're blurry

00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:18.279
you can't see them but don't worry about it this one has three pins and this one

00:26:14.919 --> 00:26:20.880
has four pins so the three pin one has a

00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:26.799
pin for positive a pin for negative and then a pin that is a an RPM sensor that

00:26:24.159 --> 00:26:31.360
tells you if the fan is spinning how fast it's spinning and if it stops

00:26:28.919 --> 00:26:35.919
spinning okay the way to control this fan is to reduce the voltage so computer

00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:39.600
fans all pretty much run at 12 Vols DC and that's when they run at the correct

00:26:37.679 --> 00:26:43.600
speed you can overvolt them and you can have them run faster but it'll burn out

00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:49.440
the motor sooner and you can undervolt them which has the benefit of making

00:26:45.840 --> 00:26:51.760
them quieter but at the cost of air flow

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:56.520
because they won't spin as fast if you undervolt too far what tends to happen

00:26:54.520 --> 00:27:01.120
is particularly on cheap fans they'll tick or they'll whine and if you

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:03.919
undervolt again too far they'll have trouble starting so they'll kind of go

00:27:02.919 --> 00:27:08.640
like this and they'll never actually get past

00:27:06.840 --> 00:27:13.120
that Tipping Point and get started but even if you have it at like five volts

00:27:10.840 --> 00:27:16.799
if you start it manually it can often keep going even at a very very very slow

00:27:15.120 --> 00:27:20.840
speed just needs to start that momentum yeah needs to get that momentum going

00:27:19.399 --> 00:27:27.080
okay so that's three pin uh four pin pwm fans have a fourth

00:27:24.320 --> 00:27:30.880
pin called pulse width modulation pin I made that up

00:27:29.159 --> 00:27:36.360
but don't worry about it so it's a fourth pin in the connector and a fourth

00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:38.480
wire that runs to the fan these fans can

00:27:36.360 --> 00:27:43.120
be controlled by simply undervolting them because you just don't connect the

00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:46.960
fourth pin to anything or don't send any signal down it and you can just under

00:27:44.679 --> 00:27:51.440
bolt it and it can spin slower but pulse width modulation actually controls the

00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:57.000
fan in a different way so what it does is instead of yeah see he's he's doing

00:27:53.960 --> 00:28:00.480
it controls the fan like this so instead

00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.559
of applying a constant 12v voltage to it

00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:07.799
it will go okay here's a 12 Vol oh not now here's 12vt not now here's 12v not

00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:12.080
now so what that does is by applying 12 volts you always have enough momentum to

00:28:10.600 --> 00:28:20.640
start the fan which is one of the advantages of pwm but you don't have to um something

00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:24.080
you always have enough to start the fan right but you don't have to spin it at

00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:28.200
full speed because it's going burst 12 burst 12 burst 12 just keep spinning it

00:28:26.120 --> 00:28:33.799
so it just keeps moving yeah it's like hitting your finger against a fan so it

00:28:29.840 --> 00:28:33.799
continually rotates yeah it's

00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:40.360
like hitting it at full force that's a good that's a good analogy good job good

00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:44.080
job you're not fired tonight does that does that unfire me from before yeah so

00:28:42.320 --> 00:28:49.279
I'm back at zero again no because I fired you once earlier already so you're

00:28:46.120 --> 00:28:51.799
at negative one no so I'm at one one

00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:58.679
yeah one time being fired okay so uh so pwm fan control okay the disadvantage of

00:28:56.039 --> 00:29:03.279
pwm fan control is that it requires a controller it requires a chipset inside

00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:06.080
the fan and inside the fan controller itself so that'll be built into your

00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:11.080
motherboard or your fan controller whether it's uh you know nqbe T balancer

00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:14.600
or whatever else um and these are often

00:29:11.080 --> 00:29:17.559
not compatible and incompatible pwm fan

00:29:14.600 --> 00:29:27.240
controllers can cause things like noises or grinding noises or just just kind of

00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:29.360
bad things just very bad things so um

00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:33.320
there's actually a a third method and that is pwm control over three pin fans

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:38.799
but that can only really be done by fairly Advanced controllers like the one

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:41.440
that we both use which can do uh voltage

00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:45.240
control or pwm control it's the mcubed T balancer which is freaking awesome when

00:29:43.919 --> 00:29:52.080
you can get it to work and I'm going to have an Eminem so why don't you explain what a t balancer does uh a t balancer

00:29:49.120 --> 00:29:55.600
is it's a microcontroller it's a little board that you can put you don't have to

00:29:54.120 --> 00:30:02.320
display what you're eating it's delicious though look at my prize ni can

00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:03.960
enjoy it with me oh my goodness um it's

00:30:02.320 --> 00:30:07.440
it's a little yeah it's a little module you can link them up to other ones to

00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:11.679
add more fans to it you can do whatever but basically it's the central holy crap

00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:16.720
okay I'll be back in a minute what are you doing don't worry about

00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:18.559
it okay oh he might be going and getting

00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:23.519
one I know he has one we both have one anyways so you can hook up a whole bunch

00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:24.960
of fans to it um I'm getting spam text

00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:32.159
messages and I'm woring worried that something's happening on the stream uh

00:30:28.360 --> 00:30:32.159
uh twitch tell me if something's

00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:40.720
wrong nope okay everything looks fine um

00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:44.799
yeah so it's basically an awesome fan controller you can Branch there's only like three or four headers on it but

00:30:43.399 --> 00:30:48.720
like I said you can add another module that add fan that adds fans to it or you

00:30:47.120 --> 00:30:52.760
can just splitter off of those in the control sections so I how I have mine

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:57.039
set up is all the fans that are up on my radiator I have in one section and then

00:30:55.679 --> 00:31:01.240
uh all the fans in the front of my case are on another and then the bottom and

00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:05.360
back fan are both on another one so then based on certain temperature curves for

00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:10.840
all of those three different zones those fans will change speed so if I'm doing

00:31:08.840 --> 00:31:15.720
nothing on my computer my radiator fans will turn off because that can idle and

00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:20.639
be totally fine and my CPU won't get in trouble at all it only hits like 35 with

00:31:18.159 --> 00:31:23.279
no fan spinning so that's totally fine um but then the second I start playing a

00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:27.279
game or something all those fans will turn on so it can Aid in cooling my CPU

00:31:25.919 --> 00:31:32.600
so those fan curves are pretty nice you can do stuff like like that in fan expert and some other um motherboard

00:31:31.360 --> 00:31:37.760
controller ones but it's a little bit more elegant on the T

00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:40.000
balancer M cubed T balancer um the

00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:44.880
software for it is really messed up though it's really hard to move uh use

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:48.639
apparently lus got it working a lot better than I did and he said that he

00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:52.600
downloaded the German version and then installed an English language pack which

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:58.559
was better than just downloading the English version so that's kind of funky

00:31:55.679 --> 00:32:02.000
but apparently it worked um I've tried a few different fan

00:32:00.080 --> 00:32:07.600
controllers but none of them were fully satisfying except for the MBE t b oh oh

00:32:06.360 --> 00:32:12.320
that's fantastic there you go I was thinking

00:32:09.639 --> 00:32:18.480
about whipping these out so whatever you were talking about

00:32:14.840 --> 00:32:20.720
now uh is not nearly as interesting as

00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:25.080
us sitting here with weapons on the uh on the live

00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:31.880
stream they're not real guns yeah not real guns guys BB guns although they

00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:34.279
come with realistic mag

00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:42.639
action yeah sliding bolt and uh oh yeah foldable stock

00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:45.600
adjustable sights adjustable sights that's it it really yeah you have to

00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:51.559
turn the screws but yeah they're fully adjustable sites I have no idea that's

00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:54.320
kind of awesome uh 40 round mag uh co2

00:32:51.559 --> 00:33:01.000
powered and pretty pretty reasonable pretty reasonable replicas so um

00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:07.360
yeah we're pretty excited about sort of I I had there was someone asking on the

00:33:03.120 --> 00:33:10.760
uh on the stream about the a secret

00:33:07.360 --> 00:33:13.880
project that we've done some teasers of

00:33:10.760 --> 00:33:16.399
on uh on Twitter and we can't really

00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:20.559
show it to you yet unfortunately but I can tell you that it will be out soon

00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:26.399
that's probably really loud oh yeah that is probably loud okay I won't play the gun um I can tell you that it will be

00:33:24.120 --> 00:33:29.519
out soon and for those of you complaining about the choppy video

00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:35.360
there's nothing we can do about it because it is probably the a media card

00:33:32.639 --> 00:33:41.919
it looks fine on our oh it does okay that's true um I'm not sure what it is

00:33:38.360 --> 00:33:44.320
and these actually are not the guns that

00:33:41.919 --> 00:33:51.240
we used in the super secret project we acquired these um sort of temporarily as

00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:55.840
a I put it in the Attic again okay yeah we acquired these as a means of filming

00:33:53.960 --> 00:34:02.600
something similar to the super secret project but hopefully with like replicas

00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:05.720
instead of paintball a paintball marker

00:34:02.600 --> 00:34:07.799
which is not that realistic looking so

00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:14.720
um there you have it these are our new toys that we're doing something with but

00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:16.520
I can't tell you guys um necessarily

00:34:14.720 --> 00:34:23.560
what's coming but I will say that it involves Diesel's Diesel's talents and

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:25.000
after effects so yeah stay tuned guys

00:34:23.560 --> 00:34:29.679
stay tuned if you're not already subscribed to the Techquickie Channel

00:34:27.720 --> 00:34:33.960
Channel make sure that you subscribed to the Techquickie Channel because that is

00:34:31.399 --> 00:34:38.960
where all of the stuff will be going not on the lus tech tips channel are we're

00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:44.760
not posting the Epic one on channel no that's going to go on Tech cookie okay

00:34:41.520 --> 00:34:46.760
yeah it's pretty epic though it's pretty

00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:50.960
epic I'm going to be tweeting that out like nuts it's actually really cool yeah

00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:55.919
like hands down the coolest thing we've done yeah yeah by by far it's the best

00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:59.560
uh the best video we've ever made oh yeah yeah like the Intel walkthr was

00:34:58.440 --> 00:35:04.560
pretty cool um that's true they're on

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:08.480
completely different playing yeah that's that's totally a different they can't really compete with each other the Intel

00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:12.000
walkthrough was pretty epic but this one is just in a completely different realm

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:17.359
of epicness um but anyway okay so we'll put

00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:22.040
that aside for now

00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.720
um that that was it sort of sorry what were you talking about I never actually

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:28.680
went and got a new topic I just went and got the gun m t balance here but I

00:35:26.480 --> 00:35:33.280
covered it oh you covered it already okay uh I don't have any other topics

00:35:31.359 --> 00:35:36.400
that was all you had for tonight you don't have anything I do what do you

00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:42.839
have I just don't know what they are because I didn't go look at them instead of uh going and getting a gun to play

00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:48.079
with um oh yeah uh dell is trying to go

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:53.000
private again I thought they did they are getting resistance from some of

00:35:50.319 --> 00:35:57.240
their major stakeholders who are asking for

00:35:54.240 --> 00:35:58.960
completely unreasonable payouts on the

00:35:57.240 --> 00:36:03.760
uh on the stocks that they still have so I think there's one group that owns like

00:36:01.359 --> 00:36:08.960
8% and one group that owns like 4% or something like that and they're asking

00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:11.720
for a value that's like 20% higher than

00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:16.400
what Dell has already shot up to following the news about the

00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:22.079
reacquisition of the stocks back so it's it so so so it was here and then Dell

00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:25.800
sort of went oh okay we're going to reacquire everything at this amount so

00:36:24.319 --> 00:36:30.400
people glommed on and bought it at anything less than that because he

00:36:28.359 --> 00:36:33.920
um Michael Dell and I think it's someone else said look we're going to buy

00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:38.240
everything at this price and then now that that's done these guys are going oh

00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:41.920
well we should get this much for it because the Stock's worth this much and

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:45.800
this is supposed to be a buyout right so you can't just buy it at this price

00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:52.040
because it's worth more but the argument is that if it had been worth more then

00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:55.119
it would be um it wouldn't be worried about doing that yeah like if it had

00:36:53.720 --> 00:37:01.000
been worth more it wouldn't have only jumped up because they were talking about reacquiring it at that price um

00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:06.440
which leads me to a discussion topic that we actually talked about a few

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:09.319
weeks back which was the Cisco uh sale

00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:14.720
of lynis to Belin so I think this is interesting

00:37:12.040 --> 00:37:19.480
because I I know enough about lynis and what goes on over there to know that the

00:37:16.839 --> 00:37:22.960
business unit is profitable at least well okay at least here in Canada so I

00:37:21.359 --> 00:37:26.800
don't know about necessarily every market right I know it's profitable I

00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:32.400
it' be hard to imagine it's not profitable yep I know it's self-

00:37:29.319 --> 00:37:35.680
sustaining yep so it it covers the

00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.680
people who actually work there and it's

00:37:35.680 --> 00:37:44.280
being sold off as an entire business unit so the whole thing is just kind of

00:37:41.160 --> 00:37:47.599
going the somewhere else the point is

00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:50.240
what uh stockholders want is this is

00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:55.000
like if this is the profitability line even if you're up here but plateauing

00:37:53.280 --> 00:38:01.839
they don't care they want you to be ramping up the whole time yes so Revenue

00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:05.079
needs to go up profitability needs to go

00:38:01.839 --> 00:38:06.640
up and market share needs to go up and

00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:11.839
if all of those numbers aren't going up then that's bad so that's where I feel

00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:18.480
like some very strange decisions get made why is Dell going private and sort

00:38:15.319 --> 00:38:21.839
of this sort of leads me to because they

00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:24.079
need to be able to do things internally

00:38:21.839 --> 00:38:29.359
that don't necessarily look good to a stockholder and you know someone like uh

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:35.079
like New Egg for example has tried to go public a couple times now and the

00:38:31.720 --> 00:38:37.520
problem every time was that new egg's

00:38:35.079 --> 00:38:43.079
net margin was something like 1% now 1% is not a lot of money from a

00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:47.560
stockholders perspective would you invest in a company that's making 1% not

00:38:45.520 --> 00:38:50.640
really because as a stockholder that's not profitable for you right how are you

00:38:49.240 --> 00:38:56.480
going to how are you going to make money by investing in this company whereas if

00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.960
you are the owner of new EG and you're

00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:05.680
making 1% on probably somewhere in the

00:39:00.520 --> 00:39:10.160
neighborhood of2 billion to5 billion

00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:12.839
yearly what do you care yeah 1% of that

00:39:10.160 --> 00:39:17.480
no problem uh because that's that's the leftover after they pay everyone and

00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:23.720
after everything's done so that's gains so as as a private company their model

00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:29.200
works but as a public company they look like total you know like oh why you know

00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:34.200
I'd rather invest in Intel where their profit margin is 40% or whatever else or

00:39:32.680 --> 00:39:42.040
apple where their profit margin is what was it like 70% or something ridiculous

00:39:37.040 --> 00:39:43.839
99.9% over 9,000 per. um they summon

00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:47.400
money whenever they sell something right so why is why is why does Dell want to

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:51.599
go private because in order to be competitive in the PC space I mean a lot

00:39:49.319 --> 00:39:58.640
of the viewers out there might think that a company like NC or Newegg or EVGA

00:39:56.400 --> 00:40:03.000
or whoever else makes like a ton of money it's like well if they're charging

00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:09.560
me $500 for a graphics card they're probably keeping $200 for themselves or

00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:11.440
$100 uh no they're not first of all R&D

00:40:09.560 --> 00:40:15.640
is insanely expensive well okay hold on I'm talking retailers right now though

00:40:13.200 --> 00:40:20.960
okay yeah NVIDIA does okay you said EVGA yeah but EV oh that's true EVGA does

00:40:18.040 --> 00:40:26.319
have R&D that's true uh because they do release custom cards things like towin

00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:31.359
and their custom coolers R&D goes into a cooler like no doubt about that okay

00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:35.359
fine you win um customers that un fire me

00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:37.319
again am I at zero now no because you

00:40:35.359 --> 00:40:43.200
embarrassed Me by proving me wrong so actually you're fired again

00:40:40.319 --> 00:40:48.200
what that's not even fair okay one sec it's choppy I think I

00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:53.520
can fix it what what what would you do restarting the card worked

00:40:50.359 --> 00:40:56.599
last wow that is just super ridiculous

00:40:53.520 --> 00:40:58.920
yeah it looks like um so anyway EVGA is

00:40:56.599 --> 00:41:04.000
an example someone who actually right so they're even more Under the Gun there's

00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:05.440
customer support there is um just like

00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:10.520
stupid little things that you might not even think about like designing a box

00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:14.160
like you have to have graphic designers you have to have people to admin your

00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:18.040
stupid like Community Forum like there's everything costs money and uh like they

00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:23.720
do giveaways and stuff in their Community forum and they have a lot of community contests and like they give

00:41:21.720 --> 00:41:26.760
out money to people who win Bild of the month and they have their I can't even

00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:32.599
remember what it's called but it's like they're even GGA mod team and like they

00:41:29.839 --> 00:41:37.359
have like their Community embraced as well like so this whole thing is not

00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:41.960
sustainable if you're a public company because there's no way you'd survive on

00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:45.079
IT industry margins so Dell right is trying to get back to being competitive

00:41:43.560 --> 00:41:49.720
they're trying to get lean again they're trying to get to the point where you

00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:56.440
know the entire executive team can't be fired by a bunch of shareholders if they

00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:58.560
you know make 1% or lose 2% for a

00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:01.400
quarter in in orderorder to you know bring something really cool and

00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:05.440
Innovative to the market that they couldn't do if they didn't if they

00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:09.200
weren't able to just kind of throw money at it for a little bit and like make

00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:12.280
things happen just get things going which will ultimately give them better

00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:18.440
Market placement people will car more people buy more products but it's not immediately so people don't care and

00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:23.040
shareholders a lot of the time can be very shortsighted yeah like you know

00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:28.359
they talk about you know well I'm buying long or or or short or or whatever else

00:42:26.680 --> 00:42:34.079
like that so anyone who's in it for short-term gain has zero interest in

00:42:32.319 --> 00:42:37.680
Dell's survival 10 years from now what do they care they won't even be invested

00:42:36.200 --> 00:42:44.280
in them anymore that's right so if Dell needs to make a decision like we're going to lose money for two years to get

00:42:41.720 --> 00:42:49.200
ourselves competitive again they could never do it as a public company so which

00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:54.440
leads me back to Cisco's decision to to let go of lynis why would you get rid of

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:59.200
a profitable self-contained business unit that has really no end in sight in

00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:03.480
terms of like what we're going to stop needing routers I don't think so if

00:43:01.520 --> 00:43:07.319
anything you know high-end routers are to going to become a bigger issue I mean

00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:10.280
when everyone can get Google Fiber to their door yeah I'm going to want a

00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:14.200
high-end router you're not going to want that stock thing no you're not it's just

00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:18.839
not going to happen not going to happen and good because good Wiens to that

00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:21.760
thing yeah I agree I mean Lyn's high-end AC router I think can push something

00:43:20.359 --> 00:43:28.280
like 800 megabit um through the the

00:43:25.160 --> 00:43:30.800
lanport like it can actually route at

00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:36.319
that speed and I'm just like oh yeah no that that's the kind of consumer routers

00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:38.800
we need um but because Cisco is a public

00:43:36.319 --> 00:43:43.079
company and Cisco is accustomed to the kinds of margins that exist on

00:43:40.720 --> 00:43:48.160
Enterprise grade networking gear which is basically like a one-time cost you do

00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:52.720
the R&D there's a software there's a software component that is a huge part

00:43:50.839 --> 00:43:59.240
of what that costs them but the actual Hardware I mean if you take apart a

00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:01.880
$5,000 or a15 ,000 or a

00:43:59.240 --> 00:44:06.559
$50,000 switch I can pretty much guarantee you okay maybe the $50,000 one

00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:09.960
but something like a $15,000 switch I can pretty much guarantee you're not

00:44:08.040 --> 00:44:15.760
going to find anything more complex in there than an Intel core

00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:18.640
I3 no way there's no way so they're

00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:23.720
making money on the solution rather than on the actual bomb cost so they could

00:44:20.520 --> 00:44:25.960
sell as many as they want and no cares

00:44:23.720 --> 00:44:30.359
were given about the R&D anymore because they moved a bunch of them so anyway

00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:34.040
what lynxis did is it's a consumer brand so you can't make that much on it

00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:37.960
consumers actually buy based on the actual freaking chipset that's in it if

00:44:36.200 --> 00:44:41.760
you're not spending money making that router you don't get to just say oh well

00:44:40.160 --> 00:44:46.119
we are Cisco I mean they rebranded all the links this router Cisco is if that

00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:51.000
was going to help we are Cisco therefore we are worth 40% more than anyone else

00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:55.839
even though someone like ASUS is innovating hugely in the networking

00:44:53.240 --> 00:44:59.240
space speaking of which this but more on that in a bit you can you can hold it up

00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:05.680
and be van a white if you'd like um I don't think I can keep a

00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:08.880
straight face while you do that

00:45:05.680 --> 00:45:11.480
um right so Cisco

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:15.079
talk Cisco can't just slap their name on it and go oh well we're Cisco so you

00:45:12.839 --> 00:45:20.040
should pay this much more for it so maybe they can only make 15% on each

00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:25.400
router so even though that's profitable it's not profitable enough to not erode

00:45:23.680 --> 00:45:29.319
Cisco's overall profitability as a company and then stockold ERS look at

00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:36.280
that and they go oh Cisco's lost their Mojo because this business unit is not

00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:38.559
um Apple can yeah apple can well

00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:45.800
whatever not okay the Apple breaks every rule yeah most of the like especially

00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:52.960
like Enthusiast custom PC market margins are like pretty much not even there not

00:45:48.680 --> 00:45:55.200
that much um so so right so anyway that

00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.920
that is that is all of that let's talk about this thing because this thing's

00:45:56.520 --> 00:46:03.640
freak am I'm going to whip it out you're going to whip it out right here on the

00:46:00.359 --> 00:46:07.319
live stream yep that's oh oh that oh I

00:46:03.640 --> 00:46:09.359
was getting excited there okay

00:46:07.319 --> 00:46:14.200
um I don't know you talk about it you tested it it has okay it has first what

00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:21.319
is it it is a internal network card okay it's a pce

00:46:17.359 --> 00:46:23.040
ac66 here what's it sure it's hot no I'm

00:46:21.319 --> 00:46:28.920
just kidding it's not hot but it's hot like it's cool oh and it's red too and I

00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.920
Drop It Like It's Hot oh God

00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:37.319
Okay so we've been doing some AC testing H Potato Hot Potato here okay okay I got

00:46:35.240 --> 00:46:41.400
it I got it I was screwing something in I got it okay calm down but you've been

00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:45.079
holding the Hot Potato too long you're dead now ow no it doesn't kill you it

00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:48.400
just burns your hands whatever didn't you ever play Hot Potato as a kid play

00:46:46.640 --> 00:46:54.880
Hot Potato with a grenade no you play Hot Potato and then at the end you make

00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:54.880
out what we can do that part if you want

00:46:55.160 --> 00:47:02.200
no oh my God that got interesting um yeah this this

00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:06.000
got out of hand very quickly I need a monacle so I can just put that on every

00:47:04.359 --> 00:47:10.440
time I say something like that you know I found a place that has

00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:14.040
monal for only like three bucks yeah yeah yeah yeah they have uh they have

00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:18.760
silver ones and gold ones we have to dress up in like crazy old school suits

00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:25.040
and wear monocles and go around with these um yeah we would get arrested so

00:47:21.720 --> 00:47:27.000
quick fast like so fast that would be

00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:30.920
fantastic but that same site has like everything like they have you know how

00:47:28.680 --> 00:47:35.160
you can get grouo Marx glasses but they're always like stupid like the the

00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:38.000
mustache is blue they're like like they're just like they're always not

00:47:36.520 --> 00:47:42.280
quite they're not the classic one how do you get the they have the classic one

00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:46.839
cheap they have battle ready swords for like 6070 bucks that are actually

00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:49.400
capable of being like smashed against each other yeah so battle ready means

00:47:48.200 --> 00:47:54.520
you can hit them against each other and they're not just going to fall apart

00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:57.000
yeah which which oh man guys never Clash

00:47:54.520 --> 00:48:00.640
swords that are not actually like like tempered and folded and whatever the

00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:05.160
good things that they do to swords are because if those things break even if

00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:11.359
they're not that sharp shards of metal like explode and it's bad not good yeah

00:48:08.839 --> 00:48:15.240
like really not bad uh really bad not good why don't you just talk about this

00:48:12.839 --> 00:48:19.359
card okay so as you can see from the just absolute Beast antenna array that

00:48:17.720 --> 00:48:23.440
comes along with it with three individual leads that go into the back

00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:27.160
of the card like that it's pretty heavy duty I personally haven't really seen

00:48:25.160 --> 00:48:30.920
any internal cards that can really I mean this thing has a heat sink on it

00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:34.119
look at it a beast heat sink yeah it looks like I mean this looks like a

00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:40.880
graphics card from not that many generations ago that looks like a graphics card like a like 610 like a

00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:44.240
lowend one yeah like pretty much like I mean it's smaller than a graphics card

00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:47.319
yeah but like like you're getting close this thing's nuts so I've been doing

00:48:46.160 --> 00:48:52.520
testing over the last little while and we've released one video well it we

00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:58.160
filmed a video but it's not released yet no but we released one from before from

00:48:54.599 --> 00:49:00.559
the launch of AC from CES oh oh on AC

00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:07.680
from the launch of AC so at that point in time we had tested a Media Bridge an

00:49:04.200 --> 00:49:10.240
n450 uh USB wireless adapter the Media

00:49:07.680 --> 00:49:17.359
Bridge is just like receives and then goes to Ethernet um n450 USB adapter and

00:49:13.680 --> 00:49:19.240
then a AC USB adapter um the AC USB

00:49:17.359 --> 00:49:23.760
adapter was USB 2 so it was bandwidth capped and there's a whole bunch of other weird stuff and that was also a

00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:30.520
launch adapter so it just was not very optimized the uh AC usb2 adapter was at

00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:38.079
like 110 seconds to transfer a gig and just failed epically um the n450 USB

00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:39.319
adapter hit around 95 seconds which is

00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:45.680
not that surprising it's about where it should hit the Media Bridge crushed both

00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:48.079
of those and came in at about

00:49:45.680 --> 00:49:53.920
27.3 seconds I think and that's decimal conversion so that's not

00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:58.920
273 like it's it's yeah it's decimal conversion and then this guy just barely

00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:04.079
beat it within margin of error that if I ran a whole bunch more tests they'd

00:50:00.240 --> 00:50:07.000
probably be pretty much equal um at like

00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:11.280
26.98 I think that's again decimal conversion um so that's pretty awesome

00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:15.520
and we're looking at uh gigabit Ethernet being at about 11 seconds not

00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:21.000
theoretical like actual the test that I did with those files at about 11 seconds

00:50:17.839 --> 00:50:25.319
so when you got Wireless transferring a

00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:27.640
gig at 26 seconds 27 seconds that's

00:50:25.319 --> 00:50:33.079
pretty freaking awesome and like installation was fine it's just

00:50:30.040 --> 00:50:34.599
PCI 1X PCI e1x and then there's no

00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:39.000
driver problems or anything like that so it's really good to see it's just

00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:42.000
absolutely beast that's the thing I like about it like a lot of wireless cards

00:50:40.640 --> 00:50:45.359
you put in your computer I'm always just like oh everything in my computer looks

00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:49.799
absolutely boss and I have this like random stupid PCV that just looks dumb

00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:54.640
and then this one's all red and has a huge heat sink and has like serious

00:50:51.799 --> 00:50:58.680
business and 10A I don't know it's very cool makes you feel like you actually

00:50:56.839 --> 00:51:02.240
bought something that was worth $100 yeah instead of a lot of the wireless

00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:10.319
adapters that are just like oh this is kind of garbage um speaking of garbage

00:51:06.520 --> 00:51:12.920
um apple is talking about nothing to do

00:51:10.319 --> 00:51:18.440
with garbage actually so the rumor on the rumor on the street is that apple is

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:21.480
looking into building a smart

00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:23.280
watch so what would be your take on this

00:51:21.480 --> 00:51:28.599
basically the idea would be that potentially using like uh curved glass

00:51:26.359 --> 00:51:32.680
um such as you know is available from Corning wear um Corning I don't think

00:51:31.359 --> 00:51:38.599
they call it Corning wear when it's just the glass so Corning

00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:40.000
um so some kind of you know processor

00:51:38.599 --> 00:51:45.200
that hopefully won't get that warm if you're going to wear it on your wrist all the time so it would have the

00:51:42.839 --> 00:51:51.119
functionality of something like an iPod but it would be a watch natural flesh

00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:54.640
heat sink um Microsoft apparently tried something like this back in 2003 and I

00:51:53.240 --> 00:51:58.880
say apparently cuz I never heard about it at the time just like mof's tablet

00:51:56.720 --> 00:52:03.079
just like just like Microsoft you know pushed tablet and then the market just

00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:07.880
wasn't ready so here's the question is the market ready for a

00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:11.839
smartwatch I don't think so and I'd love to take Twitter I'd love to take Twitter

00:52:09.520 --> 00:52:18.040
contributions on this guys so tweet is the market ready for a smartwatch how

00:52:14.359 --> 00:52:19.240
does that fit into your daily routine

00:52:18.040 --> 00:52:25.280
now there's two different angles that I'm going to come out with this at this from one angle is I don't think so the

00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:30.559
other one is definitely um the I don't think unque position no I know the I

00:52:27.839 --> 00:52:34.720
don't think so defitely think so not the the I don't think so angle is everyone

00:52:32.319 --> 00:52:39.280
is going for bigger faster more powerful phones so the second you go to a

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:43.280
smartwatch that thing's useless and no one wants it but then at the same time

00:52:41.160 --> 00:52:46.520
if you have a Note 2 and you want to do something really quickly you could just

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:52.720
go to your watch instead of pulling out this massive thing that's probably way too big for you so maybe it could

00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:56.200
streamline the really really quick tasks that people want to do on their phone

00:52:54.240 --> 00:53:00.799
who have things like note tws and Other M massive phones um and maybe people

00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:05.160
find a use case in that but then if it's super expensive and people would need to

00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:09.559
basically replace one or the other I don't think it's going to succeed well I

00:53:07.319 --> 00:53:15.119
think we've seen time and time again that Apple finds way it's also Apple so

00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:17.240
it'll probably be fun right so I mean

00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:24.160
when the iPad was released most of the mocking that was done of of the iPad

00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:26.040
was it's like a big phone but then

00:53:24.160 --> 00:53:31.079
Apple's whole trick was well no no you need iPad and an iPhone yeah so they're

00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:36.839
just going to add it as another and an eyewatch so there is no replacing going

00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:40.799
on so I see the more likely use case

00:53:36.839 --> 00:53:41.559
scenario but the okay weird I'm talking

00:53:40.799 --> 00:53:45.920
but go ahead I thought you were you pointed at

00:53:43.799 --> 00:53:50.720
me usually that's like flowing the conversation but or could mean you're

00:53:48.200 --> 00:53:56.960
fired whatever um what was I going to say now

00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:58.880
yeah but the like weird Apple my

00:53:56.960 --> 00:54:03.520
like we can make people whatever think whatever they want kind of disappeared

00:54:00.520 --> 00:54:04.960
with Steve Jobs okay but that doesn't

00:54:03.520 --> 00:54:08.680
change the fact that okay okay and the funny thing again this comes to public

00:54:06.799 --> 00:54:14.319
companies and the kind of scrutiny they get put under iPhone 5 is selling a butt

00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:16.520
ton of phones yes but not at the scale

00:54:14.319 --> 00:54:19.200
that it should be this is the exact this is the exact argument that you were on

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:23.960
the other side of the table for with Call of Duty you said Call of Duty is

00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:28.760
dying Call of Duty sold very well it's just it didn't sell well on a scale you

00:54:25.839 --> 00:54:33.319
can't FP like this hypocrite

00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:36.440
um I also just don't really much care for Call of Duty

00:54:37.359 --> 00:54:43.760
don't um okay whatever so iPhone 5 is

00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:47.440
selling a butt ton of phones and that's lots of phones and all that's really

00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:51.040
good but everyone sort of the Doom and Gloom I mean that the way that their

00:54:49.160 --> 00:54:56.760
stock has just kind of been in freef Fall lately is that oh

00:54:54.319 --> 00:55:04.000
well it's not selling at a there's no growth rate here so that's a big problem

00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:05.960
so um right so even if the eyewatch is

00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:11.040
not a success by Apple standards maybe it's not the next magical device like an

00:55:08.200 --> 00:55:15.799
iPad do they still sell a buttload of units probably I think so yeah yeah I'm

00:55:14.319 --> 00:55:19.839
if it's if it's released by Apple I'm sure it'll sell quite a few I know you

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:26.520
wouldn't buy an Apple product because you're some kind of a hippie no if they

00:55:21.640 --> 00:55:29.720
release something that's good I will wow

00:55:26.520 --> 00:55:31.039
are we if if I bought a tablet I would

00:55:29.720 --> 00:55:36.880
probably buy an IP are we going to end up in this argument again

00:55:33.720 --> 00:55:40.119
probably because the iPhone 4 is a good

00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:42.440
phone okay mine's better yours was

00:55:40.119 --> 00:55:47.280
released like two years later s was better I don't know about that you never

00:55:44.799 --> 00:55:51.960
used it that's true but it was ugly so it was good looking okay okay okay never

00:55:49.799 --> 00:55:57.640
mind never mind okay so the phone let's say or the the watch rather the watch

00:55:53.880 --> 00:56:00.400
okay so let's say the watch is um an

00:55:57.640 --> 00:56:05.200
Android watch okay can you think of a way that that watch integrates

00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:08.559
seamlessly with the Android experience you have with the Galaxy S3 what could

00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:13.920
it do CU it's probably going to have an MP3 player in it which I think is stupid

00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:16.039
you can you well okay CU I believe well

00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:19.960
hold on it is but it's not if you believe in wireless headphones yeah

00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:24.880
exactly then it's fine yeah but if you don't that's just weird unless you're

00:56:22.680 --> 00:56:29.400
wearing like long that's still weird I mean if they had wireless headphones

00:56:26.720 --> 00:56:32.839
that were like light earbuds but really lightweight yeah like if they had like a

00:56:31.359 --> 00:56:37.760
separate battery in each earbud so they could each just kind of sit in your ear I mean that's probably coming at some

00:56:35.359 --> 00:56:41.079
point or it probably exist yeah so like that makes sense but other than that

00:56:38.839 --> 00:56:44.039
it's kind of weird um but then I could just as easily have my phone next to the

00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:47.920
badminton court and I could be listening to it from there yeah okay I think one

00:56:46.480 --> 00:56:52.480
way to make it work really easily is you could sync uh you could probably sync

00:56:49.799 --> 00:56:56.440
your phone to it Bluetooth and then you could get like text messages and stuff

00:56:53.880 --> 00:57:00.680
on your watch yeah but typing on it would be a nightmare I almost would use

00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:05.119
it yeah you could use that's a good point definitely and I would almost use

00:57:02.799 --> 00:57:08.319
it just to like check things okay because if someone texts me and it's not

00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:15.880
important and I'm out doing something it would be nice to just be able to go like this or I guess this side go like this

00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:17.760
you can buy two yeah um go like this

00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:21.079
read it be like okay this is important I need to go grab my phone I need to go

00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:26.359
deal with this or yeah okay you can talk to him later okay okay so that's that's

00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:32.440
it so more than just time and date and alarms but also any kind of notification

00:57:29.240 --> 00:57:35.920
so if it's an Internet connected device

00:57:32.440 --> 00:57:38.720
email uh Twitter text messages whatever

00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:41.839
Facebook headlines headlines RSS stocks stocks um so then all of a sudden you

00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:46.760
know what I think I've talked myself into this because if it's the problem

00:57:44.720 --> 00:57:49.400
with any kind of a smart watch in the past I remember seeing like a

00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:53.039
Kickstarter or something like that for a really crazy looking watch yeah that did

00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:56.480
well actually I don't know where it's at now but it did well probably disappeared

00:57:54.799 --> 00:58:00.280
because it's all about the ecos system that was what it's Android is it Android

00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:03.280
pretty sure how well does it integrate with everything I again I haven't

00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:09.440
followed it they might not even actually be manufactured yet remember Kickstarter can take while that was a long time ago

00:58:06.160 --> 00:58:11.880
anyway so as long as it's integrated

00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:15.880
well with an ecosystem that works I could probably get used to that idea I

00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:20.720
think you'd have a hard time convincing a lot of people to wear a watch again

00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:25.400
and I think one of the things that like you and me are pushing a lot of like

00:58:22.240 --> 00:58:27.839
cool but pretty heavy duty Tech into the

00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:31.520
watch it's going be interesting seeing them releasing something that powerful

00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:34.640
that doesn't burn your wrist off but I think we're pretty much there at this

00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:38.960
point or at least getting close I mean if they were using a 22 nanometer

00:58:36.799 --> 00:58:45.680
process node to manufacture something as powerful as an iPhone 3S even seriously

00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:50.920
that would be one small power sipping chip that is capable of pretty much

00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:55.599
anything You' need to do it no it's it's interesting um it would be cool to get

00:58:53.000 --> 00:59:01.599
our hands on one would you buy one personally probably no how much would

00:58:58.039 --> 00:59:03.920
you pay for one like if it was $2 you'd

00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:08.280
buy one right okay if it was $20 would you buy

00:59:04.799 --> 00:59:10.839
one depends on really $20 yeah wow

00:59:08.280 --> 00:59:14.359
you're so cheap yeah if it was $20 you wouldn't buy an Android powered invest

00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:18.640
okay this is that's a little bit biased but

00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:23.520
anyways bear in mind it's made by it's made by Apple so it'll be like gorgeous

00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:28.160
so $20 will be just fine right okay like it's probably the piece of glass on it

00:59:26.200 --> 00:59:31.559
comes out and it's like oh it can get different clock apps and it can play

00:59:29.920 --> 00:59:35.839
music then I'm going to be like no I don't care cuz I like my Tokyo flash

00:59:34.160 --> 00:59:40.440
Jaan what if it does all of the things that we've discussed already then yeah

00:59:38.240 --> 00:59:44.160
then you're down how much I don't know but a fair amount $1 pretty boss

00:59:42.720 --> 00:59:48.480
probably 200 that's pushing it that's pushing it

00:59:46.839 --> 00:59:51.760
okay because I'm not that interested in this particular product but if it was at

00:59:50.359 --> 00:59:56.319
a $200 price point I think that would sell like crazy okay so the thing about

00:59:54.200 --> 01:00:00.000
watches though is uh you know Mar expectations for the category would be

00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:05.640
extremely high I mean if you're someone like Seiko or swiss how terrified are

01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:10.039
you right now I think you're scrambling your butt

01:00:08.640 --> 01:00:14.039
off trying to get a manufacturing partnership with some Android developer

01:00:12.520 --> 01:00:19.319
because you know Android's probably going to fight back and try and release their own and you're probably just going

01:00:16.839 --> 01:00:24.920
oh God make us be the next Samsung because I mean watch guys have been able

01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:26.720
to figure out for a long time how to

01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:31.920
sorry keep going how to charge way too much for things like yeah yeah but at

01:00:29.240 --> 01:00:37.599
the same time I think the classic kind of large old school like CU people still

01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:42.400
buy people will go and buy less technically Advanced watches to get the

01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:46.880
intricate really really nice really really finely done watches because it's

01:00:44.160 --> 01:00:51.400
a Prestige thing okay and times change there was also a time when a cell phone

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:54.720
was a status symbol because it was and you wanted it to be big and you wanted

01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:59.480
to show it off and you wanted to talk on it whereas then the trend was let's make

01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:03.440
them as small as we freaking possibly can then that reversed and now they're

01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:10.839
getting bigger I mean the the the the technology thing has taken over analog

01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:15.839
stuff Y in in almost in almost every category you look at so what does that

01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:19.039
mean for a traditional business like

01:01:15.839 --> 01:01:21.319
watches where I think and Apple's so

01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:26.720
good at product placement that's true they can make it an iconic fashion

01:01:24.319 --> 01:01:31.000
statement movies whatever put it out there so no matter how much money Rolex

01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:35.920
has to spend on product placement for rolex's which is I pretty much guarantee

01:01:33.240 --> 01:01:39.119
you anyone here who owns a Rolex a huge chunk of the money you paid them was not

01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:43.359
for the Rolex it was so that they could pay actors to wear them but anyway go

01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:48.599
ahead and like placement and having stores in Las Vegas and like all that

01:01:44.839 --> 01:01:51.119
kind of stuff yes um I think the big

01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:54.599
thing is because watches are still a huge fashion statement out of all the

01:01:52.839 --> 01:01:58.640
people that you know that wear watches most of them are probably wearing

01:01:56.039 --> 01:02:02.799
because it looks very nice okay so that might apply to the 40 and 30 somethings

01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:06.359
that's more what I mean but what about 20 years so let's say let's say apple

01:02:04.680 --> 01:02:11.359
releases a watch within this calendar year what about in the year

01:02:08.279 --> 01:02:14.520
2033 when an entire generation of people

01:02:11.359 --> 01:02:17.799
has now grown up with the concept that a

01:02:14.520 --> 01:02:19.359
watch should tell you your text messages

01:02:17.799 --> 01:02:22.559
and you should be able to just kind of yell at it that the restaurant you're in

01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:27.520
isn't very good and it'll post a one star review on your Urban Spoon like

01:02:25.520 --> 01:02:32.000
that's interesting very interesting because there's constantly stuff online

01:02:30.319 --> 01:02:35.760
oh my three-year-old daughter was with me in the dentist office and had no idea

01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:39.839
what this magazine was and didn't and was trying to scroll down the page and

01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:44.119
stuff and I'm just like like no idea I I told you that story yeah just like that

01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:49.680
blows my freaking mind so you probably have a point there so the watch business

01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:52.799
could just be dead in yes years the same

01:02:49.680 --> 01:02:57.000
time they might be able to kind of

01:02:52.799 --> 01:02:59.520
maintain because well Niche yeah well by

01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:03.119
adapting is my kind of thing because I think apple is going to go out

01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.039
manufacture their own do everything on their own like they always

01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:11.119
do uh Google is going to go okay we're building an Android platform for watches

01:03:09.319 --> 01:03:14.240
of course this is all speculation we're building an Android platform for watch

01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:17.359
we have no idea if any of this is true not a clue

01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:24.440
um uh we're building an Android platform for watches we need manufacturing

01:03:22.359 --> 01:03:27.400
Partners right people are going to step up people are going to adapt their game

01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.839
going to come out we can make this awesome looking watch you guys load the

01:03:29.640 --> 01:03:36.240
software on it we're good to go or they're going to be Kodak and they're going to say no it's a fad and they're

01:03:34.799 --> 01:03:42.640
going to be Kodak that's true or they'll be Kodak or

01:03:39.279 --> 01:03:47.000
Polaroid or they'll be uh Zer Xerox

01:03:42.640 --> 01:03:48.960
giving away Mouse in UI yeah so um so

01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:54.119
yeah so that's our little talk about the potential yeah Thompson in the twitch

01:03:52.160 --> 01:03:58.279
chat says Apple will patent the wrist strap

01:03:56.279 --> 01:04:04.799
apple apple will somehow pen the word watch yeah and like you know the hands

01:04:03.160 --> 01:04:08.760
that move around it or something um no we invented this yeah I

01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:11.880
have no idea what you're talking about that's blasphemy we invented this I

01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:19.760
thought that was I thought that was pretty cool um next up we have ah

01:04:17.720 --> 01:04:27.319
yes so um I'm just going to say that I can't

01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:31.039
say much about it but there is in the

01:04:27.319 --> 01:04:34.599
mail right now Saturday

01:04:31.039 --> 01:04:36.480
delivery a product that slick and I are

01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:40.799
both extremely excited to get our hands on

01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:47.440
I'm going to work on the weekend and be happy about it yes you

01:04:43.640 --> 01:04:49.720
are and I'm not just saying that and

01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:56.520
this is not a hint this has nothing to do with what

01:04:53.839 --> 01:05:00.000
might be in the mail um people aren't even posting it in the

01:04:58.640 --> 01:05:06.400
in the chat they're still talking about watches the color of this &em has

01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:08.400
absolutely nothing to do with the oh

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:13.160
yeah you can have an m& if you want n what I have to steal it from you have to

01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:15.200
steal it yeah you can't here no no it's

01:05:13.160 --> 01:05:21.520
okay now you have it holding I don't want it you touched it it's gross

01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:23.079
um so we have heard some things there's

01:05:21.520 --> 01:05:27.960
rumors all over the place there we go holy crap I think the stream is really

01:05:24.799 --> 01:05:29.599
far behind I don't know if you guys saw

01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:35.920
the uh the rumor did you see that there was a posting I think it was Amazon or

01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:38.680
new egg or some retailer posted a oh

01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:45.039
yeah yes posted a product listing for the Titan card which is based on the

01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:47.039
same GPU as NVIDIA's Tesla card so those

01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:50.200
are compute level cards this isn't necessarily what we're talking about

01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:54.319
that's in the mail no this is an entirely different conversation what

01:05:52.520 --> 01:06:01.960
what was what's in the mail I don't know what's mail I is that like old

01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:04.400
technology okay yeah M yeah yeah um so

01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:07.559
there was for for Titan which is what a lot of people in the twitch chat are

01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:11.680
talking about I have no idea why but for Titan um there was a there was a

01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:17.279
mistaken listing an early listing on one of the retailers that had it for

01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:22.760
$1,500 did you see that you saw that right

01:06:18.480 --> 01:06:25.720
$1,500 had it with six gigs of RAM yep

01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:31.079
um some ludicrous clock speed I think was it a 512 bit bus I think it they had

01:06:29.400 --> 01:06:36.720
it listed as a five yeah I'm pretty sure they had it listed it was [ __ ] yeah

01:06:33.160 --> 01:06:40.200
52 bit bus um so B would which would

01:06:36.720 --> 01:06:41.599
make it by far the most expensive and

01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:49.960
most complex um graphics

01:06:45.240 --> 01:06:51.599
card ever like ever by far so we have

01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:56.240
something in the mail that's not at all related to that that we are extremely

01:06:53.640 --> 01:07:00.119
excited to check out and when we can talk about whatever may or

01:06:58.200 --> 01:07:03.599
may not be in the mail we are incredibly excited about talking about that

01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:08.680
whatever that is I just wanted to let you guys know that you can expect a

01:07:05.839 --> 01:07:12.200
lonus tech tips video uh which we should probably be calling slick Tech tips

01:07:10.440 --> 01:07:16.559
because he's going to be the one testing whatever may or may not be in the mail

01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:19.160
hypothetically testing it the the thing that has something to do with this

01:07:17.799 --> 01:07:24.319
nothing to do with that I don't know what is that why haven't you eaten that yet I gave it to you to eat you're just

01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:30.880
going to steal another one and put that one back or something it's all about being deceptive with you so uh so yeah

01:07:28.359 --> 01:07:35.440
guys um not everyone is going to have anything to talk about with relation to

01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:40.079
this but we will um I see some comments in the twitch chat about the Aries 2 we

01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:43.799
did get our hands on Aries 2 today but we only had about half an hour with it

01:07:42.200 --> 01:07:48.480
so all we got done was an unboxing unfortunately but we did get like a nice

01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:53.559
close look at it and I mean performance isn't exactly rocket surgery with that

01:07:50.640 --> 01:08:00.119
card it performs like 2 797s in crossfire gahz edition cards that are

01:07:57.160 --> 01:08:07.000
overclocked that is all I get asked a lot lonus how does a GTX 590 perform

01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:11.640
well it performs exactly like two 580s that are slightly underclocked and

01:08:08.520 --> 01:08:14.319
running an SLI there's no magic that

01:08:11.640 --> 01:08:21.719
goes into a dual GPU card a dual GPU card is two single GPU cards with the

01:08:18.960 --> 01:08:25.480
exception of a little bit of efficiency that might come from combining the vrm

01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:29.199
and having it all in one card so there's a little bit less waste was that that

01:08:27.839 --> 01:08:34.759
was all you were going to say I know that I'm just making sure but in terms

01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:38.839
of the actual connectivity some people have speculated to me that there's

01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:42.239
voodoo magic that goes on because the gpus are closer together and can

01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:46.359
communicate better no they can't no they're not they're just as far apart

01:08:44.440 --> 01:08:51.960
pretty much and the way that they communicate on that PCB together is via

01:08:49.359 --> 01:08:55.679
an SLI Bridge or a crossfire Bridge that's all it is instead of a physical

01:08:53.560 --> 01:09:00.480
Bridge that's separate it traces in the form of a bridge they didn't redesign

01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:07.199
the GPU to build a dual GPU card I'm let that sink in for a

01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:09.759
minute all right getting like getting

01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:12.799
the manufacturing down and the R&D to make sure that it works all that kind of

01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:17.319
stuff is a little bit yeah it's already enough but like it doesn't just

01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:22.560
magically do better yeah honestly I prefer multiple

01:09:20.679 --> 01:09:27.560
if you if you need that much I would prefer to go multiple single gpus

01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:29.799
instead of one big grouping of gpus this

01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:34.279
is a segment that I've wanted to do for a while actually so we're going to go

01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:38.759
ahead and fire this up so if you guys aren't already

01:09:36.120 --> 01:09:43.600
active uh oh hold on if you guys aren't already active on

01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:49.679
the Linus Tech tips Forum uh this is a new segment that I'm going to be pulling

01:09:45.839 --> 01:09:51.560
from the live stream from the lineus

01:09:49.679 --> 01:09:58.040
tech tips forum and it is going to be called featured worklog of the week so

01:09:55.600 --> 01:10:03.159
there is a section of the Forum that is all about sort of builds that people are

01:10:00.280 --> 01:10:07.719
working on and this one just stood out to me like crazy so this is by The Forum

01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:13.280
member Doug and hopefully there's a way to zoom this in some more because Doug's

01:10:10.120 --> 01:10:15.239
rig deserves to be shown off in more

01:10:13.280 --> 01:10:21.960
Glory than I am able to give it right now with this feeble pathetic right

01:10:18.080 --> 01:10:23.560
click right click no no not not open

01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:30.679
image new tab open image and new tab open image and new tab open IM there we

01:10:26.719 --> 01:10:33.840
go oh fail never mind open image in new

01:10:30.679 --> 01:10:37.199
tab there we go all right so this is

01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:38.920
Doug's blue and white Shinobi build

01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:43.239
which is absolutely beautiful it's all about the little touches in a build like

01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:48.199
this so for example you can see on his Corsair power supply he has covered up

01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:52.120
the Corsair branding with a match it looks like he's actually painted it

01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:55.800
looks like it yeah with a matching paint that goes along with the paint that he's

01:10:53.960 --> 01:11:00.679
put on his SSD beautiful sing as well yeah he's

01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:04.159
gorgeous sing he's destroyed the warranty on these components but Doug

01:11:02.320 --> 01:11:07.719
doesn't care because he's an Enthusiast and damn it that's what enthusiasts do

01:11:06.360 --> 01:11:12.199
look at the hard drives the hard drives are also blue connectors are blue

01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:17.560
everything down to the last sort of detail is just freaking fantastic so

01:11:15.400 --> 01:11:21.760
we're going to pull up this this other image this was the one that really stood

01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:28.920
out to me so what I like about it is how plain and clean it is and yet how

01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:33.480
how just like out there it is with that color scheme like I've been on the

01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:40.320
record saying a number of times that I think that ASUS's mainstream board color

01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:43.199
scheme can just go put itself in someone

01:11:40.320 --> 01:11:48.960
else's computer and not mine but Doug has made it work dang it so he's found

01:11:46.120 --> 01:11:54.360
Corsair fans that also have that weird blue he's got white ones up here so he's

01:11:52.480 --> 01:11:58.960
got blue and white he's done his sleeving very very Tastefully some

01:11:56.480 --> 01:12:04.480
people do the one accent one some people do alternating I like what he's done

01:12:01.400 --> 01:12:06.360
here because it's random but not random

01:12:04.480 --> 01:12:10.560
like it just oh it just looks good it's random but it works yeah he's sleeved

01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:15.400
his SATA cables as well so those look really sharp right here and actually in

01:12:13.239 --> 01:12:22.199
terms of customization there's not much he's done all he did was cover the logo

01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:25.480
on his water cooler okay or remove it

01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:27.600
rather uh he has covered this with a

01:12:25.480 --> 01:12:31.880
piece of metal okay so you can't see the mounting the mounting points for the

01:12:29.040 --> 01:12:37.440
optical drive he's covered up this he's done some sleeving he painted his hard

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:39.400
drive in his SSD and that's it but it

01:12:37.440 --> 01:12:43.600
looks really good the effect is more than the sum of the of the mods that

01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:48.159
he's done so I thought this was a really really awesome rig and I'd love for more

01:12:46.120 --> 01:12:52.199
of the lonus tech tips Forum community members to post their Rigs and I'm going

01:12:50.120 --> 01:12:57.239
to make a point of choosing one at least one per week to Showcase during the live

01:12:54.400 --> 01:13:02.719
stream so that everyone else can admire their work as well and we're going to

01:12:59.679 --> 01:13:04.880
man I can't wait until vb5 goes gold

01:13:02.719 --> 01:13:09.239
look at that though just that's fantastic beautiful sleeving on this I

01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:14.719
haven't seen this one I really really like build doogs I won there a lot but I haven't seen this guys yeah no this one

01:13:12.639 --> 01:13:18.159
just just really really really stood out to me so I thought that was really cool

01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:21.320
wanted to share that with you guys I hope you enjoyed that gorgeous build I

01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:28.080
actually you know what it's funny because normally the first thing I do when I look at a computer is I go oh

01:13:25.400 --> 01:13:31.920
what components did he use and was that balanced and blah blah blah blah blah I

01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:37.400
mean normally any any machine with a single 120 mm pre-done water cooling

01:13:35.080 --> 01:13:41.520
thing is kind of sort of off my radar in terms of coolness Factor but what he's

01:13:39.480 --> 01:13:44.920
done yeah is he's turned it into a system yeah not a some of the parts I

01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:49.040
don't even know what graphics card he has didn't even look did you look did

01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:53.440
you even notice no I noticed that I had the nice white accent yep that's all but

01:13:51.719 --> 01:13:57.400
that's all he turned that computer into a work of art that is more than just the

01:13:55.239 --> 01:14:01.120
Su of the parts so I thought that was exceptional and without actually that

01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:05.719
much work I bet it took him a lot less time than I'm spending on my

01:14:03.040 --> 01:14:09.840
ring yeah but I'm still sure it took him time like there was some really really

01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:13.840
nicely done stuff in there that's true the the SSD cover was awesome the

01:14:12.080 --> 01:14:17.760
removal of the logo on the Block was like it's all done very well it's

01:14:15.159 --> 01:14:23.120
Quality quality work have you um have you read any Surface Pro reviews none

01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:28.560
how do you not have any time to read anything what

01:14:26.400 --> 01:14:32.000
where did that come from uh Surface Pro it's kind of a big deal uh made by this

01:14:30.400 --> 01:14:36.280
company called Apple they they make a lot of tablets no was made by Microsoft

01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:39.600
so Surface Pro I know of the Surface Pro I've read some Surface Pro reviews and

01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:44.199
there not super fluent in it I know it's awesome but has really low battery life

01:14:42.159 --> 01:14:48.800
all right stolling okay you're unfired ones okay um so the Surface Pro guys the

01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:53.360
Surface Pro is out I've been asked to talk about it I don't have a unit

01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:58.040
unfortunately um I don't really have a hookup with Microsoft hard to be

01:14:55.520 --> 01:15:02.000
perfectly honest even the surface I'm going to I'm going to make a little

01:14:59.120 --> 01:15:05.639
confession here I went and bought one and then I returned it cuz I didn't have

01:15:03.360 --> 01:15:11.719
the money to keep it it was it was good it yeah it was good if I was going to

01:15:08.040 --> 01:15:13.960
buy a tablet I would have seriously

01:15:11.719 --> 01:15:19.239
weighed my options and considered a surface uh versus the iPad 2 that I use

01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:23.320
now um actually versus pretty much anything I really liked surface so

01:15:21.280 --> 01:15:27.560
Surface Pro steps up Microsoft's game in a couple of big ways number one is

01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:33.159
they've added an x86 processor in this case it's an Intel processor which just

01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:35.800
makes it like everything else looks like

01:15:33.159 --> 01:15:39.320
a dog and pony show the fastest tablet out there well well when you compare it

01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:44.800
against more traditional tablets running Tegra 3 processors um you know S4

01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:49.239
processors running Apple processors just everything looks like a joke compared to

01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:54.480
Surface Pro it's pretty Beast yeah so there's that keep x86 compatibility

01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:59.000
meaning you can install any Windows compatible application on it that runs

01:15:56.080 --> 01:16:05.920
on win 8 totally boss totally boss totally awesome um not because because

01:16:03.679 --> 01:16:10.360
Microsoft opted for a high performance processor I can't remember is it a core

01:16:07.639 --> 01:16:12.880
I 3 I I don't remember what it is like I said I did wanted to say I didn't read

01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:19.239
about it because I didn't read about that much it's a real Chip not an atom

01:16:15.360 --> 01:16:21.000
so unlike ASUS's Vio Tab smart which can

01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:25.120
run x86 applications but isn't particularly high performance but does

01:16:22.440 --> 01:16:30.719
get about 8 Hour battery life which is good the Surface Pro is just way faster

01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:35.719
but suffers big time in terms of battery life so it only gets three and a half 4

01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:40.480
and a half hours of battery yeah which I personally

01:16:37.440 --> 01:16:42.600
find underwhelming it's hard to take

01:16:40.480 --> 01:16:45.840
seriously these days because here I'm gonna I'm going to harp on why don't you

01:16:44.480 --> 01:16:50.600
tell them what you do know about Surface Pro do back in a minute we covered most

01:16:48.480 --> 01:16:55.159
of what I do know about Service Pro um the main reason why I was excited is the

01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:57.120
x86 compatibility um come from a

01:16:55.159 --> 01:17:01.440
programming school so tablets are pretty much useless for me other than reading

01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:05.400
textbooks but and and like when I first showed up to my first class in

01:17:03.880 --> 01:17:08.880
postsecondary I was like oh I want a tablet so I can like take notes on it

01:17:07.320 --> 01:17:13.400
and I was like oh wait I can't install anything that's useful for me in this class yeah so it was just not feasible

01:17:12.040 --> 01:17:17.679
so Surface Pro makes it actually feasible um so yeah Surface Pro does

01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:22.440
that the thing that bothers me about it though is it's not a tablet in terms of

01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:25.280
its form factor I wouldn't even consider or in terms it's a tablet in terms of it

01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:29.639
form factor sorry it's a little thicker than a normal um but it's not AET in

01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:33.840
terms of its battery life which to me is a big part of Mobility I would not and

01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:41.040
you can I'll go on the record saying this in fact I'm doing it now I would not upgrade my iPad 2 to an iPad 3 or an

01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:46.400
iPad 4 if you gave me the option to do a straight swap I wouldn't take it go

01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:51.560
ahead and ask me why it be better life that's right you answered your own

01:17:48.440 --> 01:17:53.719
question before whatever man uh iPad 2

01:17:51.560 --> 01:18:00.000
has better battery life than either iPad 3 or iPad 4 which for me because I only

01:17:56.800 --> 01:18:01.560
use it occasionally the only convenience

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:06.600
that comes out of a tablet is knowing that when I pick it up it still has a charge on it that's that's it that's the

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:10.360
only compelling thing about it I mean it's a tablet it's stupid you can't type

01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:14.920
on it we were thinking about using a tablet as our slate before shots yes the

01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:17.840
Slate is you write like the shot number and the take number and the scene number

01:18:16.320 --> 01:18:22.800
Mak it easier in editing and then you do The Clapper thing and Diesel complained

01:18:20.360 --> 01:18:26.600
that we didn't slate he's got a point but we totally didn't he does have a

01:18:25.520 --> 01:18:31.960
um so we're thinking about doing that but then we're just like ah if it runs out of battery life then we're screwed

01:18:30.040 --> 01:18:35.600
I'd rather just have a whiteboard and a marker because we know it'll always work

01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:38.800
so so that to me is the convenience of a tablet and a tablet that only has a

01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:42.520
4-Hour battery life is not a tablet to me that's a notebook even though the

01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:46.159
form factor is gorgeous in a tablet and it still has the kickstand which I still

01:18:44.159 --> 01:18:50.400
think is awesome but if I was going to buy something and Surface Pro is not

01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:53.400
cheap it's around a thousand bucks if I was going to buy something like that why

01:18:51.679 --> 01:18:58.880
don't I spend an extra $200 and get an AC S7

01:18:55.440 --> 01:19:01.120
this laptop is Freo this is an awesome

01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:06.239
notebook it has Gorilla Glass up on here it's super slim it's

01:19:04.639 --> 01:19:10.280
about as thin as an iPhone well it's a little thicker than an iPhone 4 but it

01:19:08.040 --> 01:19:15.480
is super slim it's okay the iPhone 4 is upstairs um I was going to grab it has a

01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:21.639
1080p IPS screen so 1080p just like the surface pro has a full keyboard it is

01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:24.280
light enough that I can hold it with two

01:19:21.639 --> 01:19:27.679
f with one finger like this so it is actually

01:19:25.320 --> 01:19:31.159
legit light enough to just oh yeah there's oh yeah there's an SSD okay here

01:19:29.360 --> 01:19:36.080
here here let's do the uh size comparison with the SSD there you go so

01:19:33.679 --> 01:19:39.679
it's extremely slim um it's light enough that you could legit walk around with it

01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:45.679
in one hand and use it as a touchscreen device like a tablet why don't I just

01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:47.760
get this because Surface Pro is not

01:19:45.679 --> 01:19:52.840
really that much more portable because this folds so thin that you can tuck it

01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:58.840
into I mean even by the time you put it in its sleeve it's not not much bigger

01:19:56.679 --> 01:20:03.840
the only use case that I can even pretty much think about is remember when we

01:20:01.440 --> 01:20:08.400
were flying to Vegas and I tried to whip out my laptop on the

01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:12.719
plane okay right remember when I was like so in a confined space when you're

01:20:10.480 --> 01:20:16.320
in a confined space which is not as applicable to most people in Canada but

01:20:14.960 --> 01:20:22.120
around the world is more and more applicable it's kind of yeah trying to

01:20:20.080 --> 01:20:27.120
use needing to use the keyboard when you're cramped up is difficult if you

01:20:24.400 --> 01:20:30.120
can go like this and just tap on your tablet way easier but then this is a

01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:33.440
touch screen is it not it's a touch screen so then you could use it in that

01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:37.920
case with an on screen keyboard so here think about it so put yourself in a

01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:41.880
plain seat and hold

01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:43.440
this okay oh oh oh oh don't worry you

01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:47.560
got this you got this under control can you use that on a plane um not even

01:20:46.400 --> 01:20:51.320
really the keyboard because the same kind of situation but then the screen is

01:20:49.719 --> 01:20:55.840
perfect easy to use of course I'm spinning I'm going to hit the table oh

01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:59.000
barely made it if I type you that would be one nice thing if you could install

01:20:57.480 --> 01:21:04.000
an app that would make it so if you actually tapped on the screen that it

01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.560
would bring up an on screen keyboard oh

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:12.760
my God I'm using pwm control to keep him spinning cuz he hits

01:21:08.440 --> 01:21:14.880
me with full force a rthm every time not

01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:18.440
very keeps my momentum up so if you could actually tap on the screen I'm

01:21:16.600 --> 01:21:24.639
going to try and keep this facing the cam that's not going to work if you

01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:24.639
could tap on the screen and have it whoa

01:21:27.080 --> 01:21:35.920
whoa this is what the live stream would be like if we were both like under the

01:21:31.520 --> 01:21:39.639
influence of something like who Whoa man

01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:41.400
if you could just tap on the screen then

01:21:39.639 --> 01:21:46.320
stop hitting it it's a nice laptop leave it alone oh okay fine fair enough it can

01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:51.120
handle it I know it can hand Gorilla Glass okay go ahead anyways if you could

01:21:48.920 --> 01:21:54.280
if it like if you could maybe change what mode it was in and be like I only

01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:58.880
want to use the screen and then have it so if it would react like a tablet so if

01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:01.760
you click on a text area like a notepad if it would automatically bring up a

01:22:00.239 --> 01:22:05.040
typing screen that would be cool is that available is that willing to bet that's

01:22:03.320 --> 01:22:08.719
a thing I'm willing to bet that you can turn off that would be very cool there

01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:13.880
has to be a way to do that like there just has to be because that would be fantastic like settings and one thing

01:22:12.040 --> 01:22:17.800
that kind of solves this whole thing we is there it is it's in the charms menu

01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:21.480
which is the convenient place in Windows 8 where you can access pretty much

01:22:19.040 --> 01:22:25.320
everything settings keyboard touch beautiful but does that if I go to a

01:22:23.800 --> 01:22:31.400
different app here Windows Okay Internet Explorer there you

01:22:29.480 --> 01:22:35.679
go okay you're not showing them what you're doing but yeah there you go

01:22:33.679 --> 01:22:38.840
keyboard I clicked in a text area so email phone number to log into Facebook

01:22:37.679 --> 01:22:42.199
and that automatically brought up the keyboard so that's fine another laptop

01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:47.840
that comes across this this has an awesome hinge but another laptop that

01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:49.360
goes Bey above and beyond is the uh yoga

01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:53.000
yes right the yoga so that's that's another that's one that has a hinge that

01:22:51.080 --> 01:22:58.040
goes all the way around so you can use it as a tablet and as a notebook and is

01:22:56.120 --> 01:23:05.040
actually not that expensive compared to Surface Pro as well so I guess to me

01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:07.679
Surface Pro fills a niche that I didn't

01:23:05.040 --> 01:23:11.639
have however Haswell Haswell is going to be a big

01:23:09.679 --> 01:23:17.600
deal because Surface Pro is using like a 13 watt chip or something like that like

01:23:13.719 --> 01:23:18.920
it's it's low tens of Watts or like we

01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:23.600
talked about this before we're both actually pretty surprised if you remember this conversation that they

01:23:21.360 --> 01:23:27.960
didn't just wait we know they're under like marketing pressure all that kind of

01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:31.000
stuff they something would be is going

01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:33.199
to be so much better so Surface Pro 2

01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:37.239
which has potentially eight hours of battery life all of a sudden thousand

01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:41.239
bucks I may be buying one that's probably the Sweet Spot starts to be

01:23:39.639 --> 01:23:45.679
like okay that's actually awesome yeah so Surface Pro one I think I'm I'm a

01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:49.520
little bit I'm a little bit weary of uh where did that keyboard go it always

01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:53.360
vanishes I know I think I'm I think it's always you who moves it I literally

01:23:51.679 --> 01:23:56.440
never touch it because it's so small that I can't it

01:23:56.719 --> 01:24:03.080
why did you spin me around in my chair until I couldn't see anything well that was just like

01:24:00.679 --> 01:24:07.920
cool um okay so let's go back to Twitter for a little

01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:09.520
bit 389 new interactions I'm sorry that

01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:12.480
we've ignored Twitter you guys inter explor is the only we haven't done

01:24:11.080 --> 01:24:16.719
anything with that laptop yeah that laptop it's a laner unit so we haven't

01:24:14.400 --> 01:24:24.400
exactly uh we didn't bother install browsers using stock stuff what are you

01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:25.639
doing man can John just kind of um not

01:24:24.400 --> 01:24:31.520
have inappropriate stuff all over his Twitter feed look at his at handle I

01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:33.560
know why does he do this cuz he's John

01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:39.840
my friend is selling a 7970 and offered to trade for my GTX 670 and 20

01:24:37.120 --> 01:24:43.520
bucks yeah go for it unless it has bad coil wine and

01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:49.199
because you're buying it used you have the opportunity to check it out first are you excited for Bungie's new game

01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:53.239
Destiny trailer this Sunday isn't it a little early to be excited if we don't

01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:57.520
even have a trailer yet and I like with what uh what is it take two Studios I

01:24:55.960 --> 01:25:01.400
like what the new company did with it I was a pretty big fan of Halo for Halo 1

01:24:59.280 --> 01:25:05.520
and Halo 2 and then Halo 3 just completely ruined it for me and then the

01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:08.880
newest Halo I played a little bit but I'm not exactly a console gamer at all

01:25:07.159 --> 01:25:14.639
anymore so it was kind of awkward because I'm like how do I do things what

01:25:12.040 --> 01:25:19.159
you're spinning again just trying to imagine playing with a that's pretty

01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:23.320
much it cuz keyboard mous or die but anyways it seemed a lot more polished

01:25:21.400 --> 01:25:29.840
than like reach which was kind of terrible so no not particularly

01:25:26.639 --> 01:25:32.119
excited uh good question Scott you have

01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:37.800
to figure out where the green wire would be and uh Bridge those ones um don't

01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:41.159
guess wrong though what's the best computer case for 70 bucks hard to say

01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:45.199
there's not that much that's that great for 70 bucks uh probably a cheap Cooler

01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:51.840
Master would be your best bet yeah and the MSI Interceptor is on sale for

01:25:48.320 --> 01:25:53.760
$49.99 is the Shinobi around 70 bucks

01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:55.800
sometimes on promo I think it is watch for PR

01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:59.440
that's where you're going to get your good cases at that price yeah uh with

01:25:58.040 --> 01:26:05.239
the new consoles using eight core processors will feature PC games a better multicore support you know what I

01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:10.080
would have said that last generation yeah cuz cell are Xbox has

01:26:08.360 --> 01:26:13.560
three cores which back then was a big deal and cell has how many cores does

01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:17.760
cell have like six or something stupid like that remember I don't remember it

01:26:15.080 --> 01:26:22.000
has a bunch of cores stronger though why because they didn't optimize it last

01:26:19.440 --> 01:26:25.560
time right even though there was lots of multicore Awesomeness going on in there

01:26:24.360 --> 01:26:29.199
still think it'll be a little bit stronger well we can hope uh we don't

01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:33.760
need smart everything even fridges have the smart title I think phones are enough Mitch you're wrong and in 20

01:26:32.360 --> 01:26:40.159
years we can have this conversation again and I can tell you how wrong you are because everything is going to be

01:26:38.040 --> 01:26:44.560
smart and everything is going to be connected when okay um stuff like

01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:47.520
fridges and stuff like washing machines that are all coming out with like

01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.440
Wireless connectivity and all this ridiculous stuff sounds nuts until you

01:26:49.800 --> 01:26:56.560
start hearing use cases of people that are actually developing stuff for it yes

01:26:53.440 --> 01:26:59.639
um a friend and I worked on a Arduino

01:26:56.560 --> 01:27:01.440
controller rig was it Arduino or was it

01:26:59.639 --> 01:27:05.719
pretty sure it was Arduino um and we have it set up in the bottom of his

01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:09.600
apartment complex so that he can like he has it tucked in behind the washing

01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:14.800
machine and the dryer so people don't see it and he just connects it together

01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:18.880
and then puts his wash in and it sends him an email when it's done right so he

01:27:17.639 --> 01:27:23.480
doesn't have to keep checking on it random times or even bother to figure out how long the thing takes because it

01:27:22.040 --> 01:27:28.040
just sends him an email right away and the problem right now is how fragmented

01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:32.600
it is because there's all these competing companies and all these

01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:37.000
competing standards once someone strong enough whether it's a general electric

01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:41.960
or whether it's like once someone strong enough comes in and says no this is how

01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:46.440
we're doing it and standards can start being built around that then we're in

01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:50.679
for very exciting times what if you're yes because honestly right now a

01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:54.280
lot of it sucks which is why you're going why do I need a smart fridge

01:27:52.159 --> 01:27:57.239
because most of them suck right why do I a smart TV smart TVs are stupid they

01:27:56.040 --> 01:28:03.480
don't work with a bunch of different file types and the webcam is terrible cuz most of them suck but it's coming

01:28:01.560 --> 01:28:08.480
and these incremental improvements have to come AR drone V1 the one on the wall

01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:13.440
behind me had a terrible camera not very good range the replacement has HD and

01:28:11.880 --> 01:28:17.760
works with wireless end and goes much further like these iterations have to

01:28:15.920 --> 01:28:21.679
happen in order to ever deliver a truly finished product now imagine this what

01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:24.520
if your smart TV could do more than just have a touchcreen on the front that you

01:28:23.040 --> 01:28:29.480
can browse the web and look at recipes on what if your smart TV inte or your

01:28:27.080 --> 01:28:34.800
smart TV your smart fridge integrated with every single item you had in your

01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:39.840
fridge using cameras all over the place knew you had a tomato and all you had to

01:28:37.639 --> 01:28:43.119
do was go on your tablet look at a recipe and go I'm going to make that and

01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:50.239
your fridge would send you a shopping list for all the things you don't have yet or you can even go hey fridge what

01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:53.320
can I make tonight what can I make or what do you recommend me because the

01:28:51.440 --> 01:28:57.199
fridge knows what you like because of reviews you've given it that's right and

01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:01.480
and the food that you actually have inside of it your fridge could set up uh

01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:05.960
I mean okay here here here so work this into something like what Amazon's doing

01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:09.239
with um with their same day shipping what if Amazon gets the infrastructure

01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:14.760
figured out to the point where they can do food within like an hour or two all

01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:18.840
of a sudden instead of you know take out from a restaurant you might be ordering

01:29:17.280 --> 01:29:23.280
through your fridge your fridge might go oh okay it's almost time for dinner um

01:29:21.080 --> 01:29:27.159
Tuesday's our macaroni night it could place an order automatically with Amazon

01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:31.880
they could deliver it to you 2 hours later the fresh groceries arrive at your

01:29:29.600 --> 01:29:36.119
door you put them on the stove you make the food and then you don't even have to

01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:39.800
even inventory food necessarily in your fridge so much so it becomes an exercise

01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:43.480
in in run rate and replenishment I mean we're going back to the Milkman yeah

01:29:42.320 --> 01:29:47.800
pretty much I was actually just going to say we're going back to the Milkman concept that's right we're going back to

01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:52.000
the Milkman concept what happened to fresh

01:29:49.320 --> 01:29:57.080
food it's gone fresh food might be making a comeback because of Technology

01:29:54.320 --> 01:30:00.679
like smart fridges so there that is my argument for smart fridges and why

01:29:58.440 --> 01:30:05.920
they're not actually stupid well they're stupid now yeah yeah but like it's it's

01:30:04.199 --> 01:30:08.920
the future we're looking into and when he was talking about iterations of

01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:13.679
things like the AR drone we were just talking about that with the Surface Pro

01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:17.040
yes right right okay the second one is what we're like we said The Sweet Spot

01:30:15.639 --> 01:30:21.760
that's a very good point you're unfired again where am I even at I'm not sure

01:30:19.040 --> 01:30:27.199
anymore figure greeings from lvia what about the rumors of postponing the AMD

01:30:24.040 --> 01:30:30.159
8,000 series till next

01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:34.400
year can we even I don't know there was a there was a thing on Hardware Conns so

01:30:32.360 --> 01:30:38.920
we can well that was on Hardware con we can talk about the article okay I didn't

01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:43.040
read that so AMD has already said that they're going to be refreshing the 7,000

01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:46.840
series um this was an article on Hardware conu where Hardware conu says

01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:51.080
AMD said so I don't have any kind of validation from AMD about this seriously

01:30:48.840 --> 01:30:54.880
I don't actually no I don't but the guy I was talking to today he he knew

01:30:52.440 --> 01:31:01.280
nothing um so it's going to be somewhere between a 7800 series or 7700 series and

01:30:58.040 --> 01:31:02.880
a 7800 series as a refresh um at least

01:31:01.280 --> 01:31:07.360
so that much they're talking about now so while it might not end up being

01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:12.840
called 8,000 series AMD will be releasing some kind of GPU product some

01:31:10.440 --> 01:31:17.440
at some point um according to the hardware conu article sometime in the

01:31:15.320 --> 01:31:23.159
first half of 2013 so it's not like they're just you know going to lie there

01:31:19.679 --> 01:31:24.760
and sort of you know have NVIDIA just

01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:28.600
kind of like rub Titan in their face it's not not going

01:31:26.400 --> 01:31:34.480
to be quite like that guys so I'm I'm excited to see what they're actually

01:31:31.360 --> 01:31:38.159
doing and it wouldn't be the first time

01:31:34.480 --> 01:31:41.760
one of these GPU makers supposed GPU

01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:46.199
makers has gone and pulled some kind of

01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:49.520
Rogue BS CIA tactic I mean 8,000 to

01:31:46.199 --> 01:31:53.159
9,000 Series NVIDIA as a retailer when

01:31:49.520 --> 01:31:54.880
NVIDIA launched the GTX 680 we all f it

01:31:53.159 --> 01:32:00.800
was coming in at $5.99 NVIDIA pulled a price move okay

01:31:58.679 --> 01:32:05.320
nobody knew this none of the add-in board Partners which they're not called

01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:09.119
for NVIDIA they're called abps oh no Adin board Partners it's aibs for AMD

01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:13.440
anyway this these are important distinctions uh none of the add-in board

01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:18.880
partners for NVIDIA even knew so they were all charging their customers

01:32:15.960 --> 01:32:23.159
according to a 599 sell price NVIDIA Dropped a Bomb like the day before

01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:27.040
launch and dropped the price to $4.99 before it even launched

01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:32.560
and I suspect they intended this all along so a lot of the rumors and a lot

01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:36.639
of the stuff you see out there is intentional leaks that are meant to

01:32:34.400 --> 01:32:41.719
mislead the competition and meant to sort of generate stir up Buzz commun

01:32:39.480 --> 01:32:46.320
stir the pot and get people talking the amount of Buzz that's going around about

01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:49.239
Titan is just absolutely insane like oh

01:32:46.320 --> 01:32:54.080
yeah it's crazy nuts it's absolutely ridiculous like we've seen stuff like

01:32:50.800 --> 01:32:56.239
this before but this is kind of up there

01:32:54.080 --> 01:32:58.880
for the amount of Buzz we've ever seen like it's it's kind of cool it's an

01:32:57.639 --> 01:33:03.239
interesting new aspect that they're taking it's gk10 Chip all that kind of

01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:08.199
stuff like that's that's cool but still got any more topics uh actually kind of

01:33:06.080 --> 01:33:11.440
this is my uh we haven't really sat and taken very many Twitter questions like

01:33:09.719 --> 01:33:14.080
we just took a few okay want to do some now

01:33:14.760 --> 01:33:23.320
sure that's USB mic for under $100 uh which scene is the Twitter scene

01:33:20.639 --> 01:33:28.360
there we go best USB mic for under1 $100 I haven't tried tried way too many USB

01:33:25.199 --> 01:33:32.360
mics this might be a better question for

01:33:28.360 --> 01:33:33.840
diesel at diesel the intern um but I've

01:33:32.360 --> 01:33:41.480
had a lot of really good experiences and read a lot of really good reviews of blue mics uh BL I have a Blue Snowball

01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:45.960
and it's fantastic is that under $100 yep oh okay and my brother has a Blue

01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:51.000
Yeti which I think is a lot closer to $100 if not slightly over it might be

01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:54.239
like 89 or it might be 110 I don't know exactly where it is but it's somewhere

01:33:52.320 --> 01:33:58.040
closer to the $100 price point they're generally extremely well regarded so

01:33:56.080 --> 01:34:04.000
maybe it's not really good maybe there's some obscure brand like from like latva

01:34:02.040 --> 01:34:07.000
that makes a better one but if you bought a Blue mic you'd probably be

01:34:05.280 --> 01:34:12.960
satisfied they're really really good what was that site you were talking

01:34:09.239 --> 01:34:15.360
about sorry man got no idea no context

01:34:12.960 --> 01:34:18.280
um Singularity computers apparently makes an awesome custom Prodigy build so

01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:24.400
if you guys aren't afraid of clicking links on the uh Twitter stream then go ahead and check that out that's cool we

01:34:21.920 --> 01:34:27.199
made ours in like yeah ours was done in like what two two and a half hours three

01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:35.560
hours not even that's including filming time oh yeah that's true that included filming the whole process so is the 7970

01:34:31.760 --> 01:34:36.920
Matrix work worth the extra um no idea

01:34:35.560 --> 01:34:40.760
DK is making a water block for it you should check with them about that as for

01:34:38.719 --> 01:34:47.400
whether it's worth the extra hard to say it does perform better it is as of right

01:34:44.360 --> 01:34:49.679
now this exact moment the highest

01:34:47.400 --> 01:34:52.520
performing single GPU card however what I would probably do is I would hold out

01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:57.040
for a little while and see if any kind of higher performance single GPU card

01:34:54.400 --> 01:35:01.199
comes out hey guys I'm back went on a trip with the family missed a lot am I

01:34:59.280 --> 01:35:06.320
invited to the tech tips team anymore Nick you are the man and um you're as

01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:10.000
invited as you ever were did we ever invite him to anything uh we were

01:35:08.600 --> 01:35:14.199
talking about it and then there was no communication and then I closed

01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:18.119
invitations for the mod team oh bummer we're currently not recruiting for the

01:35:15.360 --> 01:35:22.719
mod team sorry ni sorry man um I would use a watch like that good what is the

01:35:20.679 --> 01:35:26.800
battery life for that S7 not that great without the extra battery pack I'm not

01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:30.199
that impressed it does have a pretty cool extra battery pack though but it

01:35:28.480 --> 01:35:34.800
has a cool extra battery pack and it comes with it comes with it and mounts

01:35:32.320 --> 01:35:38.719
and doesn't look stupid um so I think with the without the extra battery pack

01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:41.719
I mean I haven't actually had it run out of battery on me yet or anything I I

01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:46.440
haven't I haven't had it run out so it's hard to say I'm getting a Zonar Essence

01:35:44.080 --> 01:35:51.920
STX next week because of Ulus yes you are cool now respect what is the best

01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:56.000
AMD Mini ITX motherboard I don't even think there is a current gen one

01:35:54.199 --> 01:36:01.920
I mean part of the problem is that uh pile driver and bulldozer uh put out so

01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:03.119
much heat and the socket is so big and

01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:11.119
there's so much overhead because of the mounting bracket it's really hard to build an ITX board for it so just go

01:36:06.880 --> 01:36:14.480
Intel sorry um that that motherboard

01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:16.840
yeah get a p8 z77 i whatever Deluxe the

01:36:14.480 --> 01:36:19.719
good one yeah um was wondering what kind of hit to lifespan hold on I'll get

01:36:18.440 --> 01:36:24.440
there oh no there's no there's no Windows 8 giveaway tonight actually I

01:36:21.719 --> 01:36:28.560
could do one I have that copy of Windows 8 that I won at um

01:36:26.440 --> 01:36:32.440
CES should we do another Windows 8 giveaway Just for Old Time sake sure but

01:36:30.679 --> 01:36:38.639
this one's from us we can make whatever we want the question did you ever send

01:36:33.960 --> 01:36:40.239
the prize winner to me from last week no

01:36:38.639 --> 01:36:43.760
can you do that okay because you said you were

01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:46.560
going to look it up you walked you walked to your computer and said I'm

01:36:45.159 --> 01:36:52.600
going to go find it now I hope you can find

01:36:49.080 --> 01:36:54.159
it I hope I can too okay so what should

01:36:52.600 --> 01:37:00.199
we make our question for this week guys we're doing a Windows 8 Pro

01:36:57.080 --> 01:37:02.360
giveaway um what's our question going to

01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:08.320
be let's doesn't have to be about Windows anymore be about anything this

01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:10.679
is ours now it's

01:37:08.320 --> 01:37:14.800
ours you know what we never let them participate in the uh I I asked I asked

01:37:13.159 --> 01:37:18.520
a question on Twitter and then we never actually took any of the answers what

01:37:16.679 --> 01:37:24.199
was your question I don't remember like at all like do you

01:37:21.440 --> 01:37:28.280
remember the black and yellow I that was uh guy sent it to me when I like first

01:37:26.360 --> 01:37:32.040
started on Twitter and it was actually pretty boss buil he had an EMP power and

01:37:30.239 --> 01:37:35.719
he had a lightning and you had all the stuff looked really good yes a 200 R is

01:37:34.159 --> 01:37:40.520
a pretty good budget case I mean it's budget so it's not that great but when

01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:46.040
are you going to get a 4k monitor I probably not until they hit 1500 to two

01:37:42.800 --> 01:37:48.199
grand I think that's my

01:37:46.040 --> 01:37:51.960
threshold I just upgraded my monitors I'm not looking for upgrade for quite a

01:37:49.639 --> 01:37:57.520
while um I haven't upgraded my monitor in over three years now yeah yeah well

01:37:54.040 --> 01:38:00.119
before before that one it was 6 years

01:37:57.520 --> 01:38:04.920
for my main Monitor and the secondary monitor I was using it was like 10 or 11

01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:08.960
years for that one so I was pretty much due time um James asks any personal rig

01:38:07.639 --> 01:38:14.520
updates there will be a personal rig update coming soon I promise uh the

01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:17.760
personal rig is being worked on right now well not right now the second

01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:21.639
because I'm live streaming but it is being worked on I pretty much always rag

01:38:19.599 --> 01:38:26.800
on him for it but he is actually making ground now you saw that worked on right

01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:31.199
there the motherboard is in it I actually haven't seen that last I saw

01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:36.400
was GED wings uh yeah GED wings are in it I'm tweeting updates so I'm tweeting

01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:40.679
pictures as I go um I don't really watch his Twitter so know yeah whatever man I

01:38:39.040 --> 01:38:44.000
just got 50 megabit down internet what router should I get honestly it's

01:38:42.080 --> 01:38:50.520
probably not that important for 50 megabit apparently you stole a blue

01:38:46.679 --> 01:38:52.239
emem why do you tell them we are we are

01:38:50.520 --> 01:38:56.960
working on oh yeah this is this is something we are working on benchmarks

01:38:54.360 --> 01:39:02.239
for the 8350 versus the 3570 so you finished one test bench already right

01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:05.560
yes I did the 8350 is done no wait what

01:39:02.239 --> 01:39:07.599
357k on Windows 7 I thought we were

01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:11.760
going to test on Windows 8 only I just did you just veto that yeah since when

01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:16.800
can you veto things what do you think this is since you stopped benchmarking

01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:18.920
stuff okay uh okay here is apparently a

01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:21.880
link to the Titan online retail listing careful about that yeah we're not going

01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:26.679
to click on it it's okay um when is the NDA no idea or at least if we did know

01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:30.000
we couldn't say where did you get the tea balancer I ordered it online they

01:39:28.480 --> 01:39:34.119
have notification SmartWatches already Sony mobile yeah they've had

01:39:32.400 --> 01:39:38.880
notifications yeah but I want like the whole shebang yeah and this is why

01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:43.760
friends don't let friends push pull um no no too

01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:47.320
scary um and no that was not a Galaxy 780 that was a Galaxy

01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:53.400
670 DS sends a suest suggestion when you

01:39:51.599 --> 01:40:00.440
say you're going to do Twitter twittery Q and A how about actually doing

01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:03.480
it where did that card even go okay okay

01:40:00.440 --> 01:40:06.040
look at the it says on the yeah 670

01:40:03.480 --> 01:40:09.239
right there there um smart watches have no place I always lose watches anyway

01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:15.360
slicks right there underpowered and generally not good well hopefully that

01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:18.719
all gets addressed yeah why not a

01:40:15.360 --> 01:40:22.000
gauntlet great question smart

01:40:18.719 --> 01:40:23.840
Gauntlet just yeah I mean that would be

01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:27.520
so blinging it's so big you're automatically ganger I feel like I'm in

01:40:25.320 --> 01:40:27.520
like

01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:35.360
reboot ah the pebble that's right that was the one that was the one I was

01:40:33.400 --> 01:40:39.199
thinking of Market's ready whenever Apple says so or Apple's really good at

01:40:37.840 --> 01:40:42.960
figuring out when the Market's ready just saying that's true uh Google Glass

01:40:40.840 --> 01:40:48.320
is another crazy one that's going yes for Apple watch if they make a

01:40:45.440 --> 01:40:52.599
fast easy and not stupid to use okay that's very important like it has to be

01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:56.239
good and the problem is um without Steve around they've been releasing some crap

01:40:55.000 --> 01:41:00.320
Steve was still around I'm sure it would be good I'm sure Google or Apple Maps

01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:05.840
would never have made it relas jobs there um David says I would pay anything

01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:07.920
for an omni tool from Mass Effect

01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:11.679
yeah yeah don't need a smartwatch because I have a nice watch and I have a

01:41:09.320 --> 01:41:15.639
smartphone but then again I used to say the same thing about why would I need a

01:41:13.080 --> 01:41:21.679
smartphone if I have a pocket PC and a phone but that's two devices right

01:41:18.360 --> 01:41:24.199
that's the same thing yeah

01:41:21.679 --> 01:41:28.520
but okay it's two two as opposed to 2 to3 is that what you're trying to say uh

01:41:26.560 --> 01:41:31.920
Sony SmartWatch Android watch okay battery life will be a problem since

01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:35.920
watches shouldn't be too big however blinged out watches a lot of the time

01:41:33.480 --> 01:41:39.679
are big yeah very often they're really big you could check things look at

01:41:37.840 --> 01:41:44.679
customizable watch control your phone MP3 look at GPS while you're walking NFC

01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:51.080
would be actually kindy cool NFC would be really cool NFC would be balling but

01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:53.239
NFC just destroys battery life yeah so

01:41:51.080 --> 01:41:57.920
I'd be really interested to see that some type of like uh not even

01:41:54.719 --> 01:41:59.159
necessarily NFC but like RFID technology

01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:03.159
right okay just for like unlocking gateways or whatever watches are like

01:42:01.400 --> 01:42:08.760
cars just a status symbol no matter the tech not necessarily it is though you

01:42:05.400 --> 01:42:11.000
can buy a $4 Casio yeah but in a lot of

01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:16.000
CAS like he has a point though I think that little niched market of like

01:42:13.560 --> 01:42:20.639
ridiculously stupidly high-end watches that'll still exist yeah yeah but that

01:42:18.280 --> 01:42:24.679
won't sustain the company completely for every

01:42:21.840 --> 01:42:28.760
$250,000 watch that Rolex gets to sell they need to move some $25,000 ones

01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:32.560
they're moving more than 10 of those for every one of those like they you need

01:42:30.480 --> 01:42:36.800
everything oh yeah sure and I I mean not every car is a stat okay right but fancy

01:42:34.599 --> 01:42:40.480
ones are I don't think I own anything that's a status

01:42:38.360 --> 01:42:43.679
symbol I was just thinking my car is not a status symbol not necessarily status

01:42:41.920 --> 01:42:47.719
symbols to most people but you have some canot has definitely that's true okay we

01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:52.840
have different status symbols than most people do that's true hey I have 12

01:42:50.360 --> 01:42:55.159
copies of Dota 2 and don't need them uh Dan

01:42:53.639 --> 01:42:59.760
my suggestion would be head over to linch tips.com head over to the Forum

01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:03.719
and see if you can find some cool community members maybe even you know

01:43:02.080 --> 01:43:07.760
make it a fun little game for yourself find someone who left a great reply for

01:43:05.639 --> 01:43:12.400
somebody and then just award them a key because they're awesome that's key and

01:43:09.719 --> 01:43:16.719
leave a a note in the thread great reply thanks so much and we appreciate your

01:43:15.040 --> 01:43:20.040
Pat would that would be boss if you did that that would be very well yeah

01:43:18.320 --> 01:43:24.280
they're out there but not selling well again it's all about the Apple Factor no

01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:30.159
one's really marketing them that hardcore yeah apple will Market it

01:43:26.719 --> 01:43:31.760
hardcore okay no to the watch why don't

01:43:30.159 --> 01:43:36.000
you just smash a glass bottle on your wrist what would you do if you fell over and SM I mean come on man you could make

01:43:34.440 --> 01:43:41.599
the same argument about a smartphone why would you carry a piece of glass in your pocket if you fell over it could smash

01:43:38.480 --> 01:43:43.599
it and hly it's going to be not glass

01:43:41.599 --> 01:43:47.520
all the way around here and then glass just on the very top this be very very

01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:51.320
very durable glass on sorry James sorry James Apple will find a way to make

01:43:48.960 --> 01:43:55.520
people want one Ubuntu phone we've talked about Ubuntu phone at CES

01:43:53.639 --> 01:44:00.480
slick and your ideas are good but the problem is the size so doesn't have to

01:43:57.679 --> 01:44:04.040
be that big but screen size he's right screen size could be a factor although I

01:44:02.679 --> 01:44:07.800
mean the thing about a watch is it's very sort of you know if you can't see

01:44:05.719 --> 01:44:11.119
very yeah you're going like this like it's going to be pretty close closer

01:44:09.679 --> 01:44:14.960
than most people hold their phones and as long as it has a retina display like

01:44:13.320 --> 01:44:19.599
uh and I see look at me using Apple's branding terminology for things as long

01:44:16.840 --> 01:44:24.119
as it has a high pixel per inch display high resolution high resol high pixel

01:44:21.560 --> 01:44:28.599
density display High a display as long as it has a retina display I'm sure

01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:31.639
it'll be fine not time yet when they can

01:44:28.599 --> 01:44:34.040
make the Smartwatch replace the

01:44:31.639 --> 01:44:38.360
phone or process for something like Google Glasses then maybe but that's how

01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:42.679
the ecosystem will work is the phone might be like a processing offload for

01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:46.719
the watch and the glasses that's what kind of what we were talking about is you connect it to your phone and then

01:44:45.360 --> 01:44:50.840
your phone would actually do everything EOS to the watch

01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:54.320
everything on the subject with the texting you can set up a quick message

01:44:52.360 --> 01:44:57.760
so instead of typing you can select text just like when you're on your phone and

01:44:56.159 --> 01:45:00.440
you get a text and you can be like sorry I can't I'm driving or whatever or when

01:44:59.159 --> 01:45:05.800
you get a phone call you can reply with a text so that could be a really cool thing uh yep yeah there's the pebble

01:45:04.280 --> 01:45:10.840
again which is really really cool I don't remember anything about it but I read about it at some point and I

01:45:08.239 --> 01:45:15.040
thought it was cool what will it do and will there be internet plans how will it

01:45:12.599 --> 01:45:20.119
work I'm sure there'll be internet plans what if it's not you're going to find

01:45:16.440 --> 01:45:22.320
some way to try and monetize it for the

01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:26.040
isps okay maybe there will probably be Wi-Fi and 3G version and Smart Watchers

01:45:24.599 --> 01:45:30.239
could be kind of like a pager so we could be back to the pager concept it

01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:34.280
could also just be tethering yep oh yeah it could just tether your smartphone

01:45:32.320 --> 01:45:39.760
Apple will pull it off anyway I think that when we're okay so uh recommend

01:45:37.040 --> 01:45:45.159
water cooling tubing Primo chill Primo Flex LRT yep that's it we have some like

01:45:43.760 --> 01:45:54.760
right on the other side of that one yeah because it's the best it's for my personal rig only only the finest the

01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:57.760
finest tubing my tubing status symbol

01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:59.719
all right guys I think that is pretty

01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:04.000
much it we actually ran 15 minutes over today thank you for tuning into to the

01:46:01.719 --> 01:46:08.159
live stream and we will see you guys next time uh I don't think I had any

01:46:06.360 --> 01:46:12.000
more topics that I really really wanted to talk about oh yeah the Penny's gone

01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:15.960
in Canada that was something I wanted to talk about like two weeks ago yeah

01:46:13.960 --> 01:46:21.679
that's been a bit um and that's pretty much it good night

01:46:19.040 --> 01:46:25.760
everyone or good morning or good afternoon or

01:46:23.560 --> 01:46:30.480
I don't know good whatever is in with span of 24 hours good noon actually no

01:46:28.679 --> 01:46:36.040
it won't be quite noon anywhere because it's a quarter quarter two the hour so

01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:41.119
oh yeah so that's not really a thing yeah

01:46:37.280 --> 01:46:42.760
um good evening possibly didn't cover

01:46:41.119 --> 01:46:48.760
that yet possibly good dinner supper good

01:46:49.719 --> 01:46:56.199
night good night

01:46:53.800 --> 01:47:00.960
oh my God just stop the stream good night you need to go to bed I need to go

01:46:59.400 --> 01:47:05.199
home you don't even know the reference do you no I don't oh okay well where is

01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:09.199
it from here we go here we go here we here we go here we go here we go I might

01:47:06.480 --> 01:47:16.080
know once you show me but I don't think so okay Monty Python job interview come

01:47:13.239 --> 01:47:19.320
on have you seen it yeah okay well for those of you who haven't seen it I just

01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:23.199
haven't seen Monty Python in a ridiculously long time remember to make

01:47:20.960 --> 01:47:26.159
it quiet or at least mute so there the uh there's the silly job interview no no

01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:32.199
I'm going to I'm going to turn it off so hopefully they can I really enjoy interviewing applicants for this

01:47:29.440 --> 01:47:32.199
Management training

01:47:32.560 --> 01:47:35.560
course

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morning good afternoon good afternoon

01:47:43.159 --> 01:47:50.960
yeah why did you ring the bell why do you um sounds pretty good

01:48:04.239 --> 01:48:09.960
he's doing the uncomfortable hands thing yeah so uh so yeah so that that that was

01:48:08.520 --> 01:48:14.719
the reference there that wasn't just random and we're actually turning off

01:48:11.719 --> 01:48:14.719
now