1 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:11,120 streaming it's not showing viewers again hello everyone I'm not sure if this is 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,480 live or not we'll figure that out pretty soon 3 00:00:15,199 --> 00:00:20,039 hopefully people are saying late I don't think it's 4 00:00:20,519 --> 00:00:28,679 working oh this guy says live are we here can you guys hear us 5 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,359 actually on time he weird 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:38,200 again it's not local recording is it playing on 7 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:46,719 Twitch there's Echo yeah there we go 8 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:53,120 I'll probably take care of it welcome to the live stream everyone I 9 00:00:50,239 --> 00:00:57,079 am your host is it still it's still laggy here you talk to them I'll try fig 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:00,960 this I don't think there's anything we can do because last time the issue was 11 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:09,040 uh um what four viers there's a leg um last 12 00:01:07,159 --> 00:01:14,520 time the issue was that we were also local recording at the same time as we 13 00:01:11,759 --> 00:01:19,000 were live streaming so that was that was definitely a 14 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,600 problem why don't I start with an update on what we have going in terms of CPU 15 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:27,759 Cooler testing now we can do that after or or 16 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:31,920 we can do that soon the liquid cooled Prodigy build is also finally done 17 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:39,920 now this is going to surprise you guys on our standard test bench we have now 18 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:44,680 tested pretty much every current generation liquid cooler with the 19 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:50,960 exception of the swifttech h220 so we've done the 20 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:54,280 h100i the Kraken x60 the 21 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:56,640 h110 the thermal take water 22 00:01:54,280 --> 00:02:01,640 2.0 the is there anything else that covers all the major platforms right H9 23 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:07,399 110 h100i uh Silver Arrow oh yeah right 24 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:12,120 high-end air so the Silver Arrow extreme represents high-end air on our test 25 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:14,720 bench and the big winner very 26 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:19,280 surprisingly using our Noctua fans at about a th000 RPM so are are sometimes 27 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:25,400 undervolted when they're 120 mil and not undervolted when they're 140 mil fans 28 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,760 was actually the thermal t water 2.0 now 29 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,959 I don't know if the fans that are included with the water 2.0 extreme are 30 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:38,400 anything special because we actually never ran them but when it comes to 31 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:41,360 sheer water block pump 32 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:44,920 radiator this guy is the big winner it's got a it's got a thick rad it's not 33 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,000 purely surprising you just ruin the surprise now there's no surprise left 34 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:53,720 for them at all that's really awkward it's awkward 35 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:59,560 for for you because cuz now you're fired damn it yeah it's early 36 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:04,120 tonight I made it to the live stream first though no I fired you earlier 37 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:08,159 today when um I don't remember but diesel said something and then I fired 38 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:13,720 you oh but I think you did it because of something diesel said yeah that counts 39 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:16,720 still and fellow employees can get you 40 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,920 fired that that's actually a thing okay 41 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:24,120 okay so most liquid cooling nothing oh most 42 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:28,720 liquid cooling systems especially it's okay I'm just 43 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:34,159 showing for thickness sakes um most liquid cooling systems are about the 44 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:36,200 same thickness as the 120 mm fans that 45 00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:41,599 we mount on them what you can see here with the water 2.0 extreme is that it's 46 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:45,560 actually significantly thicker than a regular fan so this is something that 47 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:50,879 I've talked about a fair amount where people will say lonus can you test the 48 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:56,360 whatever pre-filled liquid cooling kit to which 49 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,840 I'll reply well it still only has a 120 50 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:02,079 mm radiator it still isn't any thicker 51 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:05,840 so the limiting factor for these pre-done liquid cooling things is oh 52 00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:14,239 we're back down to four viewers again but there's no way that's right it goes like this it's totally messed up 53 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:17,359 oh% messed up 54 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:19,639 um where was 55 00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:23,880 I you're saying the differentiating factor right is the amount of heat that 56 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:28,720 the thing can actually dissipate because the CPU block designs honestly there's 57 00:04:26,840 --> 00:04:32,800 really not that much that you can improve about them without sort of a 58 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:38,000 dramatic increase in the cost of manufacturing like look at what someone 59 00:04:34,639 --> 00:04:39,479 like for an apple ghd that should give 60 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:44,120 you some I mean they charge as much for a block as a lot of these pre-done 61 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:47,400 liquid coolers keep going keep going keep going keep going keep going what 62 00:04:45,479 --> 00:04:52,039 keep going they're saying the sound is low yeah no I can fix that too you can't 63 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:57,120 fix that from there no no that that won't do it um we put the other mic on 64 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:02,400 no it's okay it's okay it's okay here it's not even turned up how's the 65 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:05,120 feed now guys is the feed clear now 66 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:09,240 there we go how's the sound now I think I fixed the feed okay sound is fine for 67 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,639 me sound is a smidge low sound is low sound is fine okay whatever I just 68 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:16,880 turned it up quite a bit so okay so anyway the limiting factor is the 69 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:21,720 radiator itself because you can take heat away from the CPU as much as you 70 00:05:20,199 --> 00:05:25,960 want but if you don't have some way to 71 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:34,000 dissipate it to the air then there's nothing you can do so why does this dual 72 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:36,759 120 mm slightly thicker rad beat a dual 73 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:41,000 140 mm rad because it's all about surface area it's how much copper and 74 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:45,440 aluminum can you put the water in contact with that generates the 75 00:05:42,840 --> 00:05:50,800 performance so in the case of single 120 millimeter RADS you could probably make 76 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:52,360 them like this thick and you'd never get 77 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:56,639 that same performance that you get out of this larger surface area because so 78 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:00,000 much of it is wasted with The Fan Hub in the middle and the edges which aren't 79 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:05,400 getting any air flow that the actual amount of cooling surface area is not 80 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:09,680 very high yeah not only that but there's a law of diminishing returns as you 81 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:13,160 thicken things that leads you to eventually you get this thick and the 82 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:18,560 fan no matter what fan you put on it can barely even draw air through the 83 00:06:15,599 --> 00:06:23,160 radiator fins so that is why this was actually a great balance so how how much 84 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:27,720 did this beat the h110 by oh I'm putting on the spot he's on 85 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:31,440 the spot I can bring up numbers I think it was four was it four degrees four was 86 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,360 it really that much I think it might have been oh no the h110 beat beat the 87 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:40,080 Kraken by four the Kraken by four the Kraken was I think I think it's messed 88 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,800 up yeah we think there's something wrong with our Kraken x60 like there's no way 89 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:48,800 it should be generating results like that but 90 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:52,440 um this one did beat the h110 though probably what by like a couple degrees 91 00:06:50,479 --> 00:06:56,599 or something like that so so this is the winner just because of the thicker 92 00:06:54,199 --> 00:07:03,599 radiator the problem with going with a thicker dual radiator though is a lot of 93 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:07,400 cases just barely fit an h110 or an 94 00:07:03,599 --> 00:07:09,080 h110i because the uh the vrm heat sinks 95 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:12,680 on the top of your motherboard are going to interfere with anything that's 96 00:07:10,479 --> 00:07:18,400 thicker so case compatibility for the water 2.0 extreme will be lower but it 97 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:22,599 is as of right now according to our testing methodology which has us using 98 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:26,599 none of the fans that are included with anything but our own separate 99 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:31,160 highquality pressure optimized fans this is our number one choice so we'll be 100 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:36,319 releasing all of those cooler reviews over the next little while and you guys 101 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:39,080 can download the graphs off of our it 102 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:44,120 beat h110 by one degree um yeah so h110 by one degree 103 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:48,440 sorry so it's very very narrow margin of Victory but a victory nonetheless it's a 104 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:53,360 120 mm versus a 140 mm so like that's pretty awesome M&M's 105 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:57,919 are delicious I finished my dinner before the live stream today though 106 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:01,599 you're still eating though it's not much better it doesn't make that much of a 107 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:05,159 difference that it's candy is it worse that it's optional eating that I totally 108 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:09,599 don't have to dobly because before the whole excuse was like oh I didn't eat 109 00:08:07,039 --> 00:08:14,639 all day but you just ate I did I had two plates of dinner it was awesome yeah and 110 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,680 now you're having you have no excuse now 111 00:08:14,639 --> 00:08:21,120 do you like a candy no I'm good it's warm from my pocket that's 112 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:30,159 gross at least it's not warm from my back pocket let's let's let's move along 113 00:08:26,159 --> 00:08:32,080 okay that thud we have been promising 114 00:08:30,159 --> 00:08:39,039 you guys we have been promising you guys a 115 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:41,760 liquid cooled bit Phoenix Prodigy for 116 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:46,800 about 300 bazillion years and actually well since launch 117 00:08:44,839 --> 00:08:52,480 it's been a long time and since the launch we have intended every day to 118 00:08:50,279 --> 00:08:56,560 build that liquid cooled Prodigy and show you guys so we have done it that's 119 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:03,519 okay I'm just going to dump it on the floor we filmed the ncch tips episode 120 00:09:00,839 --> 00:09:10,279 where we not only show off the liquid cooled Prodigy but also do a build guide 121 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:14,959 for how to build your own water cooled Prodigy from bit Phoenix so this is for 122 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:22,839 those of you who don't know pretty much one of the bossest ITX enclosures on the 123 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Block so it's got kind of um a power 124 00:09:22,839 --> 00:09:31,160 maish looking frame it's a little bit wider than most chassis would be on the 125 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:35,440 side it's got ventilation on the back you can see the orientation of the 126 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:41,040 motherboard is actually horizontal so then there's a 120 or 140 mm uh thing 127 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:45,920 there and then you got your power supply which is bottom mounted okay the bottom 128 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:50,480 has a filtered intake for the power supply and things start to get uh I'll 129 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,640 get my lovely assistant slick to go ahead and pull off the side panel here 130 00:09:52,320 --> 00:10:03,320 this is where things start to get interesting so we got a lot of cool 131 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Sweet Rock and Hardware mounted in here 132 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:10,560 and this is what it looks like so this is our liquid cooled Prodigy we have 133 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:16,839 gone with um a fairly conservative a fairly conservative 134 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:19,880 configuration sort of so okay uh you 135 00:10:16,839 --> 00:10:21,240 know what I'll get uh can I get you to 136 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:29,720 hold this and then I'll I'll point at stuff okay so first of all here we've 137 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:36,040 got a dual 120 mm Raider uh dual 120 mm 138 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:39,639 alphao nexos nexos uh 45 Nexus xt45 it's 139 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:42,600 an all copper rad so the frame the fins 140 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:48,040 the tubes everything in there is copper then over here at the back we have 141 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:53,720 another oh that came that came loose because the uh mounting hole isn't quite 142 00:10:51,079 --> 00:10:59,000 lined up right uhoh oh the screw came out that's that's a problem well okay 143 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:04,720 what are you pointing at I can't see it the oh I see it I see it I see it is it 144 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,360 the block no it's the uh oh my goodness 145 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:12,160 I hope this didn't damage anything that could be a big problem what is it it's 146 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:14,200 the uh the rad at the back came out oh 147 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:21,720 cuz I um I only put in two screws cuz I was lazy okay it's back on okay so 148 00:11:17,399 --> 00:11:24,040 there's a nexos xt45 single 120 mm rad 149 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:28,279 if we were to mod the top of the case see in the roof there where there's room 150 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,800 for dual 120s there's no room now because this one here blocks the 151 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:35,320 clearance that you and actually they both block what clearance you'd need to 152 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,560 install a dual 120 rad there but you could probably put another single 120 153 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,040 rad there if you drilled your own hole so that's uh that's an idea for any of 154 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:48,800 you modders out there for our graphics card because we see that keeps coming 155 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:51,000 out uh it's because the um put two 156 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:54,079 screws I mean more than two screws in yeah no the problem too though is that 157 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:58,000 the uh the heads for these go right through the fan holes so scre yeah 158 00:11:56,839 --> 00:12:02,680 they're really really small so there's nothing I can do right now nice though the copper screws yeah copper screws 159 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,959 which is sort of balling but I guess they saved a little bit on the uh on the 160 00:12:04,959 --> 00:12:12,560 making the head smaller okay so for the block we've gone with a GTX 670 with an 161 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:15,320 alpha cool GTX 670 block again all 162 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:19,639 copper so these are copper plugs here which is really cool and then you can 163 00:12:17,199 --> 00:12:23,079 see the copper of the block itself in here there's going to be more close-ups 164 00:12:21,079 --> 00:12:27,360 of this in the NC Tech tips episode so don't worry about that and then the 165 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:32,519 front of it is so mirrored that we can probably show you guys there's our light 166 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,959 there you go there's presumably our camera somewhere around there don't 167 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,279 worry it's over there if you could see our camera you'd know that it's not 168 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:43,480 mounted properly on the tripod and just has a piece of cardboard holding it up 169 00:12:41,959 --> 00:12:47,399 um which is cool for those of you who are asking why I'm wearing this shirt I 170 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:54,040 actually own two of them which allows me to uh allows me to wash them 171 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:56,519 and wear them at the same time seic 520 172 00:12:54,040 --> 00:13:00,279 wat power supply reservoirs mounted here you could put in a longer graphics card 173 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,440 but we wouldn't be able to use this spot to mount the reservoir I really liked 174 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,959 this spot for the res because it allows me to put it above the pump which is 175 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:11,839 down there in the very bottom without um sort of any difficulty and without 176 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:17,160 drilling any additional holes and then let's go ahead and open up the top so 177 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:21,160 they can see what we did in terms of wire 178 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:23,639 management inside the case and tubing 179 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:28,040 management so let's go ahead and flip this bad boy down here oh man you can't 180 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:32,399 see that at all how well can you hold this cuz I'm going to here no no no here 181 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:36,600 here no no no come back it's not going to focus there it's okay we just need 182 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:41,720 more light here feel like a Teletubby yeah I know 183 00:13:39,959 --> 00:13:47,440 right everyone's looking at my stomach okay so inside here you can see the uh 184 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:51,079 the tubes mounted to the hold on this isn't 185 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:54,759 working and it is working okay so there's the tubes mounted to the Dual 186 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:59,639 rad here's the tubes mounted to the single rad back here then you can see 187 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:05,040 the Apple ghd water block way down there in its guts 16 gigs of 188 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:07,199 patriot memory and you can see that the 189 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:13,120 water block for the GPU tilt it down there we go is oh up lift up but keep it 190 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:18,120 tilted down can you do that awesome you're the man right oh something fell 191 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:23,079 no no it's okay um that's just the pad for the pump okay yeah the question so 192 00:14:20,839 --> 00:14:28,440 there are the fittings on the back of the GPU block and I think that pretty 193 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:34,160 much kind of covers it so the the water cooled bit Phoenix Prodigy did you show 194 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,720 them the copper like uh stop fittings uh 195 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:39,199 oh we can give them a closeup of that sort of so there's the copper stop 196 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:43,120 fittings that are also for the All Copper radiators hopefully they can go 197 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:48,800 do a closeup if you want that's okay that's good enough um so yeah there you 198 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:51,480 go balling machine so 199 00:14:48,800 --> 00:15:00,759 3570k GTX 670 uh three thick 120 mm worth of um 200 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:04,880 radiator um well inspectre fans because they came 201 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,920 in the case and we didn't really have anything else handy I'm going to turn 202 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:14,440 this light off because I think it's Wrecking everything but it's finally 203 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:16,839 done so you guys can check out you guys 204 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:20,759 can check out our guide on how to build your own it's not as in-depth as the 205 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:25,360 ultimate water cooling guide that we produced a long time ago like not like 206 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:29,120 here's how to screw in a fitting yeah yeah but that was pretty elaborate yeah 207 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,680 but it's more like here's the little things that you'll need to know you kind 208 00:15:31,319 --> 00:15:38,920 of already know how to water cool here's how to water cool a prodigy yeah so 209 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:41,839 everyone should just go and go and build 210 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:46,880 a prodigy now hey did we change the uh the name of the twitch thing I don't 211 00:15:43,399 --> 00:15:48,560 think so ah update there we go all right 212 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,399 so why don't we do some Twitter Q&A while slick goes and finds us a topic to 213 00:15:51,319 --> 00:15:57,040 talk about that crazy Russian thing right 214 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,560 there medor over Russia and it's like freaking huge and it's paused right 215 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:05,720 before it kind of starts so you can show people okay well we better do that then 216 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:10,240 it's pretty crazy is this muted no mute 217 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:10,240 there we go all right guys meteor 218 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:23,399 time so you'll see it see it coming right there oh wow and then it's like 219 00:16:20,759 --> 00:16:27,079 way bigger than you thought and then it kind of goes and 220 00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:30,880 kind of fizzes out a little bit right there and then you can kind of he comes 221 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:36,079 comes around the corner you can see it kind of like exploded a little bit and 222 00:16:32,319 --> 00:16:37,839 then fizzed out wow yeah like serious 223 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:42,399 business and apparently there was more than just that one huh I haven't like 224 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,120 read into it very much I just heard about it last night and then decided I'd 225 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:48,920 try and find a video for it that we could show people because that's like 226 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,680 pretty intense and this guy just keeps on cruising along imagine you were 227 00:16:50,399 --> 00:16:58,199 driving down the road and you saw that above I know like what the I like we we 228 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,319 still have it open in the side window and the guy just 229 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:07,400 yeah it's like he it's like he uh it's like he doesn't even realize like the 230 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:10,439 crazy thing that's going on he's passing this guy he's in a hurry to get home to 231 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:14,280 his family and make sure that he you know they didn't get crushed or 232 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:21,520 something or maybe he just drives like that I heard a rumor that one of them hit a uh zinc plant and it just like 233 00:17:19,360 --> 00:17:26,160 crushed the whole top of the building and everything just really bad wow like 234 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:30,120 like I'm pretty sure there was quite a bit more than just this one maybe if we 235 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,080 looked at the astrological signs more carefully we' have seen this 236 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:40,919 coming I'm going to go look 237 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,919 more oh 238 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:47,200 God Slick's not a believer in 239 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:52,120 astrology sck why don't you believe in astrology um no for those of you who 240 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:58,960 don't uh who those of you who who are not familiar with astrology it is the 241 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:01,720 science of the time okay I can't even 242 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:08,240 say that was a straight face um that's not astronomy astronomy is a real thing 243 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,120 astrology astrology is uh the thing 244 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:14,480 where the time that you're born dictates something about your personality or I'm 245 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,799 a Scorpio so this means I have to marry this personed this month and that means 246 00:18:16,679 --> 00:18:22,919 you're going to make tons of money this month yeah or like uh you know you're 247 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:26,600 you're a Taurus so you're impatient or whatever else and yeah it's one of those 248 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:33,120 things it's one of those things that helps me kill some time while I get Twitter going 249 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,440 uh the the New York Times with the Tesla 250 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:40,799 yeah that was crazy model uh can you tell me what you did with the keyboard 251 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:44,440 no because I didn't oh okay so there was 252 00:18:40,799 --> 00:18:46,360 a big thing with the New York Times um 253 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:52,520 in the last in the last little bit here where Tesla sent the New York Times 254 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:57,159 Reporter reviewer um associate that's 255 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:59,440 okay I got it uh a Tesla vehicle and he 256 00:18:57,159 --> 00:19:05,799 was supposed to create you know an article an unbiased impartial uh 257 00:19:02,559 --> 00:19:07,640 analysis of the car and he came back 258 00:19:05,799 --> 00:19:14,360 with a with an article that was very critical of the Tesla vehicle saying 259 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,360 that it wasn't um you know it lost its 260 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:20,200 charge and it just you know wasn't didn't charge properly and just just 261 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:25,679 generally very very negative about it and this was after um one of those guys 262 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:29,280 in the UK Top Gear did a review on it as well and Tesla had already found some 263 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:34,600 kind of sketchy stuff with theirs like they said it ran out of power it's a fully 264 00:19:33,159 --> 00:19:40,080 electric vehicle and they have a shot of it running out of power and then they have they like overlay the sound of a 265 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Dying motor but it's on a fully electric car so if it runs out of power it 266 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:49,440 doesn't like chug down like a motor yeah so people were like what and then Top 267 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Gear eventually after like they were in court about it and all this kind of 268 00:19:50,679 --> 00:19:56,919 stuff and then Top Gear eventually was like yeah okay whatever we kind of FIB 269 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,720 that shot we made it up so after that 270 00:19:56,919 --> 00:20:03,960 now New York Times pulls this and Tesla was worried about any other problematic 271 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:07,799 stuff so they put a black box in the car and they were like yeah you just kind of 272 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:11,799 drove around a parking lot a whole bunch and you had like the temperature in the 273 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:16,760 cabin was like 75 degrees at all points in time and he claimed that he was 274 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:18,080 Cruise controlled at 52 miles or at 52 275 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,960 kilm an hour I don't remember what it was probably miles near probably miles 276 00:20:19,799 --> 00:20:25,679 yeah yeah okay um but he was actually at like 75 and like he just like kind of 277 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:31,159 made up a whole bunch of stuff and did a whole bunch of weird practices like like 278 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:33,400 not distance in certain areas and just 279 00:20:31,159 --> 00:20:39,039 it's just really really sketchy and so basically their editorial Integrity is 280 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:41,600 under Fire big time here because why 281 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:45,919 would you give a negative review to such an exciting Innovative technology if 282 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:51,360 you're not on the take getting the money yeah 283 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:54,280 like what's the point why why how do you benefit from this so that's it's not a 284 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,600 legitimate review at that point yeah that's sort of a big deal right now so 285 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:02,320 um so the the only logical concl conclusion that we can come to is that 286 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,760 you should get all of your news directly from 287 00:21:03,919 --> 00:21:11,320 us because we are not taking any money from like a you know oil company or 288 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,840 automotive company to uh bring you biased reviews of graphics cards and 289 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,400 like the the one thing is there's one thing to be said for like a sponsored 290 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:23,600 spot and then there's another thing to be said when you get paid off to be 291 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:25,720 against something yes like that's and we 292 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:29,240 have no problem with a sponsored spot sponsored spot is good especially if a 293 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:33,279 sponsored spot is something that you already like anyway I would have no 294 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,240 problem here I will list companies that I would have no problem and I'm sure I 295 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:41,679 hope none of you can really disagree with this I'd have no problem taking a 296 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:46,919 sponsored spot from Intel AMD 297 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:48,840 NVIDIA um ASUS Corsair companies that 298 00:21:46,919 --> 00:21:53,200 know their stuff Kingston there's more there's a bunch more like there's lots 299 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:58,039 more antech they build good stuff I mean they're power supplies do do you 300 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,600 remember the soldering job on that new power 301 00:21:59,039 --> 00:22:06,360 saw I was like it's kind of beautiful what you could frame that yeah you could 302 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:10,440 frame that you you could call that art no one would know the difference because 303 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,880 it was beautiful so there's companies that I would have no problem taking a 304 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:21,240 sponsored spot from but if we were to take a sponsored spot from Intel on an 305 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:24,240 AMD CPU review that wouldn't really work 306 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,640 give it a negative review and then yeah 307 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:31,039 you guys probably shouldn't watch our videos anymore just saying that would be kind 308 00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:35,000 of the Tipping Point speaking of not watching our videos anymore um I've 309 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:39,320 gotten some complaints that people aren't getting notifications in their 310 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:43,360 subscription box that we have new videos um I've actually gotten a couple and 311 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,799 I've noticed viewers viewership has gone down in the last few days so I don't 312 00:22:44,679 --> 00:22:51,279 know if YouTube's bugged out but one guy said that the solution for him was to 313 00:22:49,159 --> 00:22:54,559 unsubscribe and resubscribe at the like right at the same time and that took 314 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:59,320 care of it and now he's getting us showing up in his subbox so um just kind 315 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,799 of throwing that out there if you guys wanted to get our videos and not getting 316 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:07,120 them then that might be a way to take care of wait that meteor that exp bring 317 00:23:04,919 --> 00:23:12,279 up uh Twitter that meteorite that exploded over Russia was only one and it 318 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,880 damaged okay so that 500 people that so 319 00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:17,440 that same one we saw it wasn't multiple like I was that was probably a piece of 320 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:20,240 it though yeah yeah so that same one that we saw in that video hit the zinc 321 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:25,520 plant that I was talking about it was not multiple 500 people that's kind of 322 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:31,240 that's crazy are you going to dye your hair again probably not uh budget gaming 323 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:35,600 CPU 82 Bucks versus I'd probably go with the AMD one 324 00:23:34,159 --> 00:23:41,799 cuz the Pentium one cannot be overclocked at all and AP uh yeah fix 325 00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:46,679 the camera angle yeah I thought I fixed it is it like 326 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:49,080 falling cuz I'm here 327 00:23:46,679 --> 00:23:56,240 again I think it might be turning maybe tighten the spots sure 328 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,120 seems pretty seems pretty tight to Me Maybe I just adjusted it stupidly last 329 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:04,520 time there we go now you can see us uh the 330 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:09,320 Russian air defense intercepted the meteorite and blew it up to reduce the 331 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,240 size and a vered catastrophe okay good 332 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:14,600 work people are saying they saw water dripping out of The Prodigy I didn't see 333 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:19,000 any personally yeah I saw it I didn't put the I didn't put the cap on the top 334 00:24:16,919 --> 00:24:22,279 of the reservoir too tightly we're we're taking this build apart yeah we're going 335 00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:26,799 to take it apart like immediately so we're done with it yeah it's partially 336 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:30,440 taken apart uh would a swift tech h220 perform in The Prodigy that would make 337 00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:33,840 an awesome and practical yes it would in fact what I would probably do is I would 338 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:38,720 throw another 120 mil rat on there and you're ready to go and that avoids the 339 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:41,200 issue with mounting space for reservoirs 340 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:46,720 and pumps because the reservoir is part of the radiator and the pump is good 341 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:52,159 well one thing that would be kind of tough with the Swift Tech unit actually 342 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,880 is there's you'd have to mount it you 343 00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:58,760 know what I don't want to guarantee that because the h220 has a longer tank at 344 00:24:56,279 --> 00:25:02,880 the bottom to be a res as well and I'm not 100% sure if there's clearance for 345 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:06,279 that so if you didn't put a fan in the back here you could probably fit it 346 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:10,399 there maybe facing the other way maybe maybe in the top yeah yeah yeah are 347 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,880 Samsung 840 Pro ssds better than Intel's 520s 348 00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:17,399 yes 520s are getting a little bit old now yeah it's a little it's a little 349 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:21,480 dated it's a sand Force drive so what is there to really say about it static 350 00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:28,320 constantly I use onboard sound is that why very possibly yes onboard sound 351 00:25:24,039 --> 00:25:30,640 should just go away yeah budget oh okay 352 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:34,919 that was twice um for fan control what do you prefer a manual controller pwm 353 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:41,320 this is actually a good discussion topic so um well we both have the same one do 354 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:46,679 we both have the same one yeah not necessarily why what do you prefer no I 355 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:52,000 said we both have the same one one of what uh fan controller oh fan controller 356 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:56,120 okay but he says I think he just means in general what do you prefer does you 357 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:02,120 mean manual controller as in like like a separate thing 358 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,840 and then pwm is on the motherboard uh I 359 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:09,240 was going to interpret it as analog versus pwm fan control okay okay so why 360 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,600 don't we talk about that a little bit these are fan connectors they're blurry 361 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:18,279 you can't see them but don't worry about it this one has three pins and this one 362 00:26:14,919 --> 00:26:20,880 has four pins so the three pin one has a 363 00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:26,799 pin for positive a pin for negative and then a pin that is a an RPM sensor that 364 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:31,360 tells you if the fan is spinning how fast it's spinning and if it stops 365 00:26:28,919 --> 00:26:35,919 spinning okay the way to control this fan is to reduce the voltage so computer 366 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:39,600 fans all pretty much run at 12 Vols DC and that's when they run at the correct 367 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:43,600 speed you can overvolt them and you can have them run faster but it'll burn out 368 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:49,440 the motor sooner and you can undervolt them which has the benefit of making 369 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,760 them quieter but at the cost of air flow 370 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:56,520 because they won't spin as fast if you undervolt too far what tends to happen 371 00:26:54,520 --> 00:27:01,120 is particularly on cheap fans they'll tick or they'll whine and if you 372 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,919 undervolt again too far they'll have trouble starting so they'll kind of go 373 00:27:02,919 --> 00:27:08,640 like this and they'll never actually get past 374 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:13,120 that Tipping Point and get started but even if you have it at like five volts 375 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,799 if you start it manually it can often keep going even at a very very very slow 376 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:20,840 speed just needs to start that momentum yeah needs to get that momentum going 377 00:27:19,399 --> 00:27:27,080 okay so that's three pin uh four pin pwm fans have a fourth 378 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,880 pin called pulse width modulation pin I made that up 379 00:27:29,159 --> 00:27:36,360 but don't worry about it so it's a fourth pin in the connector and a fourth 380 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:38,480 wire that runs to the fan these fans can 381 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:43,120 be controlled by simply undervolting them because you just don't connect the 382 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,960 fourth pin to anything or don't send any signal down it and you can just under 383 00:27:44,679 --> 00:27:51,440 bolt it and it can spin slower but pulse width modulation actually controls the 384 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:57,000 fan in a different way so what it does is instead of yeah see he's he's doing 385 00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,480 it controls the fan like this so instead 386 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,559 of applying a constant 12v voltage to it 387 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:07,799 it will go okay here's a 12 Vol oh not now here's 12vt not now here's 12v not 388 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:12,080 now so what that does is by applying 12 volts you always have enough momentum to 389 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:20,640 start the fan which is one of the advantages of pwm but you don't have to um something 390 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,080 you always have enough to start the fan right but you don't have to spin it at 391 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:28,200 full speed because it's going burst 12 burst 12 burst 12 just keep spinning it 392 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:33,799 so it just keeps moving yeah it's like hitting your finger against a fan so it 393 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,799 continually rotates yeah it's 394 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:40,360 like hitting it at full force that's a good that's a good analogy good job good 395 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,080 job you're not fired tonight does that does that unfire me from before yeah so 396 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:49,279 I'm back at zero again no because I fired you once earlier already so you're 397 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,799 at negative one no so I'm at one one 398 00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:58,679 yeah one time being fired okay so uh so pwm fan control okay the disadvantage of 399 00:28:56,039 --> 00:29:03,279 pwm fan control is that it requires a controller it requires a chipset inside 400 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,080 the fan and inside the fan controller itself so that'll be built into your 401 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:11,080 motherboard or your fan controller whether it's uh you know nqbe T balancer 402 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,600 or whatever else um and these are often 403 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:17,559 not compatible and incompatible pwm fan 404 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:27,240 controllers can cause things like noises or grinding noises or just just kind of 405 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:29,360 bad things just very bad things so um 406 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,320 there's actually a a third method and that is pwm control over three pin fans 407 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:38,799 but that can only really be done by fairly Advanced controllers like the one 408 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:41,440 that we both use which can do uh voltage 409 00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:45,240 control or pwm control it's the mcubed T balancer which is freaking awesome when 410 00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:52,080 you can get it to work and I'm going to have an Eminem so why don't you explain what a t balancer does uh a t balancer 411 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:55,600 is it's a microcontroller it's a little board that you can put you don't have to 412 00:29:54,120 --> 00:30:02,320 display what you're eating it's delicious though look at my prize ni can 413 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:03,960 enjoy it with me oh my goodness um it's 414 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,440 it's a little yeah it's a little module you can link them up to other ones to 415 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,679 add more fans to it you can do whatever but basically it's the central holy crap 416 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:16,720 okay I'll be back in a minute what are you doing don't worry about 417 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,559 it okay oh he might be going and getting 418 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,519 one I know he has one we both have one anyways so you can hook up a whole bunch 419 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,960 of fans to it um I'm getting spam text 420 00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:32,159 messages and I'm woring worried that something's happening on the stream uh 421 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,159 uh twitch tell me if something's 422 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,720 wrong nope okay everything looks fine um 423 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,799 yeah so it's basically an awesome fan controller you can Branch there's only like three or four headers on it but 424 00:30:43,399 --> 00:30:48,720 like I said you can add another module that add fan that adds fans to it or you 425 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:52,760 can just splitter off of those in the control sections so I how I have mine 426 00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:57,039 set up is all the fans that are up on my radiator I have in one section and then 427 00:30:55,679 --> 00:31:01,240 uh all the fans in the front of my case are on another and then the bottom and 428 00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:05,360 back fan are both on another one so then based on certain temperature curves for 429 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:10,840 all of those three different zones those fans will change speed so if I'm doing 430 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:15,720 nothing on my computer my radiator fans will turn off because that can idle and 431 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:20,639 be totally fine and my CPU won't get in trouble at all it only hits like 35 with 432 00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:23,279 no fan spinning so that's totally fine um but then the second I start playing a 433 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:27,279 game or something all those fans will turn on so it can Aid in cooling my CPU 434 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:32,600 so those fan curves are pretty nice you can do stuff like like that in fan expert and some other um motherboard 435 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,760 controller ones but it's a little bit more elegant on the T 436 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:40,000 balancer M cubed T balancer um the 437 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:44,880 software for it is really messed up though it's really hard to move uh use 438 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:48,639 apparently lus got it working a lot better than I did and he said that he 439 00:31:46,519 --> 00:31:52,600 downloaded the German version and then installed an English language pack which 440 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:58,559 was better than just downloading the English version so that's kind of funky 441 00:31:55,679 --> 00:32:02,000 but apparently it worked um I've tried a few different fan 442 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:07,600 controllers but none of them were fully satisfying except for the MBE t b oh oh 443 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,320 that's fantastic there you go I was thinking 444 00:32:09,639 --> 00:32:18,480 about whipping these out so whatever you were talking about 445 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:20,720 now uh is not nearly as interesting as 446 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:25,080 us sitting here with weapons on the uh on the live 447 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:31,880 stream they're not real guns yeah not real guns guys BB guns although they 448 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:34,279 come with realistic mag 449 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:42,639 action yeah sliding bolt and uh oh yeah foldable stock 450 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:45,600 adjustable sights adjustable sights that's it it really yeah you have to 451 00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:51,559 turn the screws but yeah they're fully adjustable sites I have no idea that's 452 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:54,320 kind of awesome uh 40 round mag uh co2 453 00:32:51,559 --> 00:33:01,000 powered and pretty pretty reasonable pretty reasonable replicas so um 454 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:07,360 yeah we're pretty excited about sort of I I had there was someone asking on the 455 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:10,760 uh on the stream about the a secret 456 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:13,880 project that we've done some teasers of 457 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,399 on uh on Twitter and we can't really 458 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:20,559 show it to you yet unfortunately but I can tell you that it will be out soon 459 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:26,399 that's probably really loud oh yeah that is probably loud okay I won't play the gun um I can tell you that it will be 460 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,519 out soon and for those of you complaining about the choppy video 461 00:33:27,559 --> 00:33:35,360 there's nothing we can do about it because it is probably the a media card 462 00:33:32,639 --> 00:33:41,919 it looks fine on our oh it does okay that's true um I'm not sure what it is 463 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:44,320 and these actually are not the guns that 464 00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:51,240 we used in the super secret project we acquired these um sort of temporarily as 465 00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:55,840 a I put it in the Attic again okay yeah we acquired these as a means of filming 466 00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:02,600 something similar to the super secret project but hopefully with like replicas 467 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:05,720 instead of paintball a paintball marker 468 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:07,799 which is not that realistic looking so 469 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:14,720 um there you have it these are our new toys that we're doing something with but 470 00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:16,520 I can't tell you guys um necessarily 471 00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:23,560 what's coming but I will say that it involves Diesel's Diesel's talents and 472 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,000 after effects so yeah stay tuned guys 473 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,679 stay tuned if you're not already subscribed to the Techquickie Channel 474 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:33,960 Channel make sure that you subscribed to the Techquickie Channel because that is 475 00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:38,960 where all of the stuff will be going not on the lus tech tips channel are we're 476 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:44,760 not posting the Epic one on channel no that's going to go on Tech cookie okay 477 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,760 yeah it's pretty epic though it's pretty 478 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,960 epic I'm going to be tweeting that out like nuts it's actually really cool yeah 479 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:55,919 like hands down the coolest thing we've done yeah yeah by by far it's the best 480 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:59,560 uh the best video we've ever made oh yeah yeah like the Intel walkthr was 481 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,560 pretty cool um that's true they're on 482 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,480 completely different playing yeah that's that's totally a different they can't really compete with each other the Intel 483 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,000 walkthrough was pretty epic but this one is just in a completely different realm 484 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:17,359 of epicness um but anyway okay so we'll put 485 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:22,040 that aside for now 486 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,720 um that that was it sort of sorry what were you talking about I never actually 487 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,680 went and got a new topic I just went and got the gun m t balance here but I 488 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:33,280 covered it oh you covered it already okay uh I don't have any other topics 489 00:35:31,359 --> 00:35:36,400 that was all you had for tonight you don't have anything I do what do you 490 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:42,839 have I just don't know what they are because I didn't go look at them instead of uh going and getting a gun to play 491 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:48,079 with um oh yeah uh dell is trying to go 492 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:53,000 private again I thought they did they are getting resistance from some of 493 00:35:50,319 --> 00:35:57,240 their major stakeholders who are asking for 494 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:58,960 completely unreasonable payouts on the 495 00:35:57,240 --> 00:36:03,760 uh on the stocks that they still have so I think there's one group that owns like 496 00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:08,960 8% and one group that owns like 4% or something like that and they're asking 497 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,720 for a value that's like 20% higher than 498 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:16,400 what Dell has already shot up to following the news about the 499 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:22,079 reacquisition of the stocks back so it's it so so so it was here and then Dell 500 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,800 sort of went oh okay we're going to reacquire everything at this amount so 501 00:36:24,319 --> 00:36:30,400 people glommed on and bought it at anything less than that because he 502 00:36:28,359 --> 00:36:33,920 um Michael Dell and I think it's someone else said look we're going to buy 503 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:38,240 everything at this price and then now that that's done these guys are going oh 504 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:41,920 well we should get this much for it because the Stock's worth this much and 505 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,800 this is supposed to be a buyout right so you can't just buy it at this price 506 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:52,040 because it's worth more but the argument is that if it had been worth more then 507 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,119 it would be um it wouldn't be worried about doing that yeah like if it had 508 00:36:53,720 --> 00:37:01,000 been worth more it wouldn't have only jumped up because they were talking about reacquiring it at that price um 509 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:06,440 which leads me to a discussion topic that we actually talked about a few 510 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:09,319 weeks back which was the Cisco uh sale 511 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:14,720 of lynis to Belin so I think this is interesting 512 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:19,480 because I I know enough about lynis and what goes on over there to know that the 513 00:37:16,839 --> 00:37:22,960 business unit is profitable at least well okay at least here in Canada so I 514 00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:26,800 don't know about necessarily every market right I know it's profitable I 515 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:32,400 it' be hard to imagine it's not profitable yep I know it's self- 516 00:37:29,319 --> 00:37:35,680 sustaining yep so it it covers the 517 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,680 people who actually work there and it's 518 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:44,280 being sold off as an entire business unit so the whole thing is just kind of 519 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,599 going the somewhere else the point is 520 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:50,240 what uh stockholders want is this is 521 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:55,000 like if this is the profitability line even if you're up here but plateauing 522 00:37:53,280 --> 00:38:01,839 they don't care they want you to be ramping up the whole time yes so Revenue 523 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:05,079 needs to go up profitability needs to go 524 00:38:01,839 --> 00:38:06,640 up and market share needs to go up and 525 00:38:05,079 --> 00:38:11,839 if all of those numbers aren't going up then that's bad so that's where I feel 526 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:18,480 like some very strange decisions get made why is Dell going private and sort 527 00:38:15,319 --> 00:38:21,839 of this sort of leads me to because they 528 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:24,079 need to be able to do things internally 529 00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:29,359 that don't necessarily look good to a stockholder and you know someone like uh 530 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:35,079 like New Egg for example has tried to go public a couple times now and the 531 00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:37,520 problem every time was that new egg's 532 00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:43,079 net margin was something like 1% now 1% is not a lot of money from a 533 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,560 stockholders perspective would you invest in a company that's making 1% not 534 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,640 really because as a stockholder that's not profitable for you right how are you 535 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:56,480 going to how are you going to make money by investing in this company whereas if 536 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,960 you are the owner of new EG and you're 537 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:05,680 making 1% on probably somewhere in the 538 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:10,160 neighborhood of2 billion to5 billion 539 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:12,839 yearly what do you care yeah 1% of that 540 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:17,480 no problem uh because that's that's the leftover after they pay everyone and 541 00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:23,720 after everything's done so that's gains so as as a private company their model 542 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:29,200 works but as a public company they look like total you know like oh why you know 543 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:34,200 I'd rather invest in Intel where their profit margin is 40% or whatever else or 544 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:42,040 apple where their profit margin is what was it like 70% or something ridiculous 545 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:43,839 99.9% over 9,000 per. um they summon 546 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,400 money whenever they sell something right so why is why is why does Dell want to 547 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,599 go private because in order to be competitive in the PC space I mean a lot 548 00:39:49,319 --> 00:39:58,640 of the viewers out there might think that a company like NC or Newegg or EVGA 549 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:03,000 or whoever else makes like a ton of money it's like well if they're charging 550 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:09,560 me $500 for a graphics card they're probably keeping $200 for themselves or 551 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,440 $100 uh no they're not first of all R&D 552 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,640 is insanely expensive well okay hold on I'm talking retailers right now though 553 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:20,960 okay yeah NVIDIA does okay you said EVGA yeah but EV oh that's true EVGA does 554 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:26,319 have R&D that's true uh because they do release custom cards things like towin 555 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:31,359 and their custom coolers R&D goes into a cooler like no doubt about that okay 556 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:35,359 fine you win um customers that un fire me 557 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,319 again am I at zero now no because you 558 00:40:35,359 --> 00:40:43,200 embarrassed Me by proving me wrong so actually you're fired again 559 00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:48,200 what that's not even fair okay one sec it's choppy I think I 560 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:53,520 can fix it what what what would you do restarting the card worked 561 00:40:50,359 --> 00:40:56,599 last wow that is just super ridiculous 562 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,920 yeah it looks like um so anyway EVGA is 563 00:40:56,599 --> 00:41:04,000 an example someone who actually right so they're even more Under the Gun there's 564 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:05,440 customer support there is um just like 565 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:10,520 stupid little things that you might not even think about like designing a box 566 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:14,160 like you have to have graphic designers you have to have people to admin your 567 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,040 stupid like Community Forum like there's everything costs money and uh like they 568 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:23,720 do giveaways and stuff in their Community forum and they have a lot of community contests and like they give 569 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:26,760 out money to people who win Bild of the month and they have their I can't even 570 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:32,599 remember what it's called but it's like they're even GGA mod team and like they 571 00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:37,359 have like their Community embraced as well like so this whole thing is not 572 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:41,960 sustainable if you're a public company because there's no way you'd survive on 573 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,079 IT industry margins so Dell right is trying to get back to being competitive 574 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,720 they're trying to get lean again they're trying to get to the point where you 575 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:56,440 know the entire executive team can't be fired by a bunch of shareholders if they 576 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,560 you know make 1% or lose 2% for a 577 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,400 quarter in in orderorder to you know bring something really cool and 578 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:05,440 Innovative to the market that they couldn't do if they didn't if they 579 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:09,200 weren't able to just kind of throw money at it for a little bit and like make 580 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,280 things happen just get things going which will ultimately give them better 581 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:18,440 Market placement people will car more people buy more products but it's not immediately so people don't care and 582 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:23,040 shareholders a lot of the time can be very shortsighted yeah like you know 583 00:42:20,559 --> 00:42:28,359 they talk about you know well I'm buying long or or or short or or whatever else 584 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:34,079 like that so anyone who's in it for short-term gain has zero interest in 585 00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:37,680 Dell's survival 10 years from now what do they care they won't even be invested 586 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:44,280 in them anymore that's right so if Dell needs to make a decision like we're going to lose money for two years to get 587 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:49,200 ourselves competitive again they could never do it as a public company so which 588 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:54,440 leads me back to Cisco's decision to to let go of lynis why would you get rid of 589 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:59,200 a profitable self-contained business unit that has really no end in sight in 590 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:03,480 terms of like what we're going to stop needing routers I don't think so if 591 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,319 anything you know high-end routers are to going to become a bigger issue I mean 592 00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:10,280 when everyone can get Google Fiber to their door yeah I'm going to want a 593 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,200 high-end router you're not going to want that stock thing no you're not it's just 594 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:18,839 not going to happen not going to happen and good because good Wiens to that 595 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,760 thing yeah I agree I mean Lyn's high-end AC router I think can push something 596 00:43:20,359 --> 00:43:28,280 like 800 megabit um through the the 597 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,800 lanport like it can actually route at 598 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:36,319 that speed and I'm just like oh yeah no that that's the kind of consumer routers 599 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:38,800 we need um but because Cisco is a public 600 00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:43,079 company and Cisco is accustomed to the kinds of margins that exist on 601 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:48,160 Enterprise grade networking gear which is basically like a one-time cost you do 602 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:52,720 the R&D there's a software there's a software component that is a huge part 603 00:43:50,839 --> 00:43:59,240 of what that costs them but the actual Hardware I mean if you take apart a 604 00:43:55,079 --> 00:44:01,880 $5,000 or a15 ,000 or a 605 00:43:59,240 --> 00:44:06,559 $50,000 switch I can pretty much guarantee you okay maybe the $50,000 one 606 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:09,960 but something like a $15,000 switch I can pretty much guarantee you're not 607 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:15,760 going to find anything more complex in there than an Intel core 608 00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:18,640 I3 no way there's no way so they're 609 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:23,720 making money on the solution rather than on the actual bomb cost so they could 610 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,960 sell as many as they want and no cares 611 00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:30,359 were given about the R&D anymore because they moved a bunch of them so anyway 612 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:34,040 what lynxis did is it's a consumer brand so you can't make that much on it 613 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:37,960 consumers actually buy based on the actual freaking chipset that's in it if 614 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,760 you're not spending money making that router you don't get to just say oh well 615 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:46,119 we are Cisco I mean they rebranded all the links this router Cisco is if that 616 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:51,000 was going to help we are Cisco therefore we are worth 40% more than anyone else 617 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:55,839 even though someone like ASUS is innovating hugely in the networking 618 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:59,240 space speaking of which this but more on that in a bit you can you can hold it up 619 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:05,680 and be van a white if you'd like um I don't think I can keep a 620 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,880 straight face while you do that 621 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:11,480 um right so Cisco 622 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,079 talk Cisco can't just slap their name on it and go oh well we're Cisco so you 623 00:45:12,839 --> 00:45:20,040 should pay this much more for it so maybe they can only make 15% on each 624 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:25,400 router so even though that's profitable it's not profitable enough to not erode 625 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,319 Cisco's overall profitability as a company and then stockold ERS look at 626 00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:36,280 that and they go oh Cisco's lost their Mojo because this business unit is not 627 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,559 um Apple can yeah apple can well 628 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:45,800 whatever not okay the Apple breaks every rule yeah most of the like especially 629 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:52,960 like Enthusiast custom PC market margins are like pretty much not even there not 630 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:55,200 that much um so so right so anyway that 631 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,920 that is that is all of that let's talk about this thing because this thing's 632 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:03,640 freak am I'm going to whip it out you're going to whip it out right here on the 633 00:46:00,359 --> 00:46:07,319 live stream yep that's oh oh that oh I 634 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:09,359 was getting excited there okay 635 00:46:07,319 --> 00:46:14,200 um I don't know you talk about it you tested it it has okay it has first what 636 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:21,319 is it it is a internal network card okay it's a pce 637 00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:23,040 ac66 here what's it sure it's hot no I'm 638 00:46:21,319 --> 00:46:28,920 just kidding it's not hot but it's hot like it's cool oh and it's red too and I 639 00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:28,920 Drop It Like It's Hot oh God 640 00:46:29,119 --> 00:46:37,319 Okay so we've been doing some AC testing H Potato Hot Potato here okay okay I got 641 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:41,400 it I got it I was screwing something in I got it okay calm down but you've been 642 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,079 holding the Hot Potato too long you're dead now ow no it doesn't kill you it 643 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:48,400 just burns your hands whatever didn't you ever play Hot Potato as a kid play 644 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:54,880 Hot Potato with a grenade no you play Hot Potato and then at the end you make 645 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:54,880 out what we can do that part if you want 646 00:46:55,160 --> 00:47:02,200 no oh my God that got interesting um yeah this this 647 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:06,000 got out of hand very quickly I need a monacle so I can just put that on every 648 00:47:04,359 --> 00:47:10,440 time I say something like that you know I found a place that has 649 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:14,040 monal for only like three bucks yeah yeah yeah yeah they have uh they have 650 00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:18,760 silver ones and gold ones we have to dress up in like crazy old school suits 651 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:25,040 and wear monocles and go around with these um yeah we would get arrested so 652 00:47:21,720 --> 00:47:27,000 quick fast like so fast that would be 653 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:30,920 fantastic but that same site has like everything like they have you know how 654 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:35,160 you can get grouo Marx glasses but they're always like stupid like the the 655 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,000 mustache is blue they're like like they're just like they're always not 656 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,280 quite they're not the classic one how do you get the they have the classic one 657 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:46,839 cheap they have battle ready swords for like 6070 bucks that are actually 658 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,400 capable of being like smashed against each other yeah so battle ready means 659 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:54,520 you can hit them against each other and they're not just going to fall apart 660 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:57,000 yeah which which oh man guys never Clash 661 00:47:54,520 --> 00:48:00,640 swords that are not actually like like tempered and folded and whatever the 662 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:05,160 good things that they do to swords are because if those things break even if 663 00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:11,359 they're not that sharp shards of metal like explode and it's bad not good yeah 664 00:48:08,839 --> 00:48:15,240 like really not bad uh really bad not good why don't you just talk about this 665 00:48:12,839 --> 00:48:19,359 card okay so as you can see from the just absolute Beast antenna array that 666 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:23,440 comes along with it with three individual leads that go into the back 667 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:27,160 of the card like that it's pretty heavy duty I personally haven't really seen 668 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,920 any internal cards that can really I mean this thing has a heat sink on it 669 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:34,119 look at it a beast heat sink yeah it looks like I mean this looks like a 670 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:40,880 graphics card from not that many generations ago that looks like a graphics card like a like 610 like a 671 00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:44,240 lowend one yeah like pretty much like I mean it's smaller than a graphics card 672 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,319 yeah but like like you're getting close this thing's nuts so I've been doing 673 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:52,520 testing over the last little while and we've released one video well it we 674 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:58,160 filmed a video but it's not released yet no but we released one from before from 675 00:48:54,599 --> 00:49:00,559 the launch of AC from CES oh oh on AC 676 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:07,680 from the launch of AC so at that point in time we had tested a Media Bridge an 677 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:10,240 n450 uh USB wireless adapter the Media 678 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:17,359 Bridge is just like receives and then goes to Ethernet um n450 USB adapter and 679 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,240 then a AC USB adapter um the AC USB 680 00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:23,760 adapter was USB 2 so it was bandwidth capped and there's a whole bunch of other weird stuff and that was also a 681 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:30,520 launch adapter so it just was not very optimized the uh AC usb2 adapter was at 682 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:38,079 like 110 seconds to transfer a gig and just failed epically um the n450 USB 683 00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:39,319 adapter hit around 95 seconds which is 684 00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:45,680 not that surprising it's about where it should hit the Media Bridge crushed both 685 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:48,079 of those and came in at about 686 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:53,920 27.3 seconds I think and that's decimal conversion so that's not 687 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:58,920 273 like it's it's yeah it's decimal conversion and then this guy just barely 688 00:49:57,079 --> 00:50:04,079 beat it within margin of error that if I ran a whole bunch more tests they'd 689 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:07,000 probably be pretty much equal um at like 690 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:11,280 26.98 I think that's again decimal conversion um so that's pretty awesome 691 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:15,520 and we're looking at uh gigabit Ethernet being at about 11 seconds not 692 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:21,000 theoretical like actual the test that I did with those files at about 11 seconds 693 00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:25,319 so when you got Wireless transferring a 694 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,640 gig at 26 seconds 27 seconds that's 695 00:50:25,319 --> 00:50:33,079 pretty freaking awesome and like installation was fine it's just 696 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:34,599 PCI 1X PCI e1x and then there's no 697 00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:39,000 driver problems or anything like that so it's really good to see it's just 698 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,000 absolutely beast that's the thing I like about it like a lot of wireless cards 699 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:45,359 you put in your computer I'm always just like oh everything in my computer looks 700 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:49,799 absolutely boss and I have this like random stupid PCV that just looks dumb 701 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:54,640 and then this one's all red and has a huge heat sink and has like serious 702 00:50:51,799 --> 00:50:58,680 business and 10A I don't know it's very cool makes you feel like you actually 703 00:50:56,839 --> 00:51:02,240 bought something that was worth $100 yeah instead of a lot of the wireless 704 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:10,319 adapters that are just like oh this is kind of garbage um speaking of garbage 705 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:12,920 um apple is talking about nothing to do 706 00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:18,440 with garbage actually so the rumor on the rumor on the street is that apple is 707 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:21,480 looking into building a smart 708 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,280 watch so what would be your take on this 709 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:28,599 basically the idea would be that potentially using like uh curved glass 710 00:51:26,359 --> 00:51:32,680 um such as you know is available from Corning wear um Corning I don't think 711 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:38,599 they call it Corning wear when it's just the glass so Corning 712 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:40,000 um so some kind of you know processor 713 00:51:38,599 --> 00:51:45,200 that hopefully won't get that warm if you're going to wear it on your wrist all the time so it would have the 714 00:51:42,839 --> 00:51:51,119 functionality of something like an iPod but it would be a watch natural flesh 715 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,640 heat sink um Microsoft apparently tried something like this back in 2003 and I 716 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:58,880 say apparently cuz I never heard about it at the time just like mof's tablet 717 00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:03,079 just like just like Microsoft you know pushed tablet and then the market just 718 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,880 wasn't ready so here's the question is the market ready for a 719 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,839 smartwatch I don't think so and I'd love to take Twitter I'd love to take Twitter 720 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:18,040 contributions on this guys so tweet is the market ready for a smartwatch how 721 00:52:14,359 --> 00:52:19,240 does that fit into your daily routine 722 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:25,280 now there's two different angles that I'm going to come out with this at this from one angle is I don't think so the 723 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:30,559 other one is definitely um the I don't think unque position no I know the I 724 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:34,720 don't think so defitely think so not the the I don't think so angle is everyone 725 00:52:32,319 --> 00:52:39,280 is going for bigger faster more powerful phones so the second you go to a 726 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:43,280 smartwatch that thing's useless and no one wants it but then at the same time 727 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,520 if you have a Note 2 and you want to do something really quickly you could just 728 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:52,720 go to your watch instead of pulling out this massive thing that's probably way too big for you so maybe it could 729 00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:56,200 streamline the really really quick tasks that people want to do on their phone 730 00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:00,799 who have things like note tws and Other M massive phones um and maybe people 731 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:05,160 find a use case in that but then if it's super expensive and people would need to 732 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:09,559 basically replace one or the other I don't think it's going to succeed well I 733 00:53:07,319 --> 00:53:15,119 think we've seen time and time again that Apple finds way it's also Apple so 734 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,240 it'll probably be fun right so I mean 735 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:24,160 when the iPad was released most of the mocking that was done of of the iPad 736 00:53:20,559 --> 00:53:26,040 was it's like a big phone but then 737 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:31,079 Apple's whole trick was well no no you need iPad and an iPhone yeah so they're 738 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:36,839 just going to add it as another and an eyewatch so there is no replacing going 739 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:40,799 on so I see the more likely use case 740 00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:41,559 scenario but the okay weird I'm talking 741 00:53:40,799 --> 00:53:45,920 but go ahead I thought you were you pointed at 742 00:53:43,799 --> 00:53:50,720 me usually that's like flowing the conversation but or could mean you're 743 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:56,960 fired whatever um what was I going to say now 744 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:58,880 yeah but the like weird Apple my 745 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:03,520 like we can make people whatever think whatever they want kind of disappeared 746 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,960 with Steve Jobs okay but that doesn't 747 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,680 change the fact that okay okay and the funny thing again this comes to public 748 00:54:06,799 --> 00:54:14,319 companies and the kind of scrutiny they get put under iPhone 5 is selling a butt 749 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,520 ton of phones yes but not at the scale 750 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:19,200 that it should be this is the exact this is the exact argument that you were on 751 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,960 the other side of the table for with Call of Duty you said Call of Duty is 752 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:28,760 dying Call of Duty sold very well it's just it didn't sell well on a scale you 753 00:54:25,839 --> 00:54:33,319 can't FP like this hypocrite 754 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:36,440 um I also just don't really much care for Call of Duty 755 00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:43,760 don't um okay whatever so iPhone 5 is 756 00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:47,440 selling a butt ton of phones and that's lots of phones and all that's really 757 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,040 good but everyone sort of the Doom and Gloom I mean that the way that their 758 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:56,760 stock has just kind of been in freef Fall lately is that oh 759 00:54:54,319 --> 00:55:04,000 well it's not selling at a there's no growth rate here so that's a big problem 760 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:05,960 so um right so even if the eyewatch is 761 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:11,040 not a success by Apple standards maybe it's not the next magical device like an 762 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:15,799 iPad do they still sell a buttload of units probably I think so yeah yeah I'm 763 00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:19,839 if it's if it's released by Apple I'm sure it'll sell quite a few I know you 764 00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:26,520 wouldn't buy an Apple product because you're some kind of a hippie no if they 765 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:29,720 release something that's good I will wow 766 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,039 are we if if I bought a tablet I would 767 00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:36,880 probably buy an IP are we going to end up in this argument again 768 00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:40,119 probably because the iPhone 4 is a good 769 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,440 phone okay mine's better yours was 770 00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:47,280 released like two years later s was better I don't know about that you never 771 00:55:44,799 --> 00:55:51,960 used it that's true but it was ugly so it was good looking okay okay okay never 772 00:55:49,799 --> 00:55:57,640 mind never mind okay so the phone let's say or the the watch rather the watch 773 00:55:53,880 --> 00:56:00,400 okay so let's say the watch is um an 774 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:05,200 Android watch okay can you think of a way that that watch integrates 775 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:08,559 seamlessly with the Android experience you have with the Galaxy S3 what could 776 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:13,920 it do CU it's probably going to have an MP3 player in it which I think is stupid 777 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:16,039 you can you well okay CU I believe well 778 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:19,960 hold on it is but it's not if you believe in wireless headphones yeah 779 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:24,880 exactly then it's fine yeah but if you don't that's just weird unless you're 780 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:29,400 wearing like long that's still weird I mean if they had wireless headphones 781 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:32,839 that were like light earbuds but really lightweight yeah like if they had like a 782 00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:37,760 separate battery in each earbud so they could each just kind of sit in your ear I mean that's probably coming at some 783 00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:41,079 point or it probably exist yeah so like that makes sense but other than that 784 00:56:38,839 --> 00:56:44,039 it's kind of weird um but then I could just as easily have my phone next to the 785 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,920 badminton court and I could be listening to it from there yeah okay I think one 786 00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:52,480 way to make it work really easily is you could sync uh you could probably sync 787 00:56:49,799 --> 00:56:56,440 your phone to it Bluetooth and then you could get like text messages and stuff 788 00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:00,680 on your watch yeah but typing on it would be a nightmare I almost would use 789 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:05,119 it yeah you could use that's a good point definitely and I would almost use 790 00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:08,319 it just to like check things okay because if someone texts me and it's not 791 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:15,880 important and I'm out doing something it would be nice to just be able to go like this or I guess this side go like this 792 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:17,760 you can buy two yeah um go like this 793 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:21,079 read it be like okay this is important I need to go grab my phone I need to go 794 00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:26,359 deal with this or yeah okay you can talk to him later okay okay so that's that's 795 00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:32,440 it so more than just time and date and alarms but also any kind of notification 796 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:35,920 so if it's an Internet connected device 797 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:38,720 email uh Twitter text messages whatever 798 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,839 Facebook headlines headlines RSS stocks stocks um so then all of a sudden you 799 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:46,760 know what I think I've talked myself into this because if it's the problem 800 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:49,400 with any kind of a smart watch in the past I remember seeing like a 801 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:53,039 Kickstarter or something like that for a really crazy looking watch yeah that did 802 00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:56,480 well actually I don't know where it's at now but it did well probably disappeared 803 00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:00,280 because it's all about the ecos system that was what it's Android is it Android 804 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,280 pretty sure how well does it integrate with everything I again I haven't 805 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:09,440 followed it they might not even actually be manufactured yet remember Kickstarter can take while that was a long time ago 806 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:11,880 anyway so as long as it's integrated 807 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:15,880 well with an ecosystem that works I could probably get used to that idea I 808 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:20,720 think you'd have a hard time convincing a lot of people to wear a watch again 809 00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:25,400 and I think one of the things that like you and me are pushing a lot of like 810 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,839 cool but pretty heavy duty Tech into the 811 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:31,520 watch it's going be interesting seeing them releasing something that powerful 812 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,640 that doesn't burn your wrist off but I think we're pretty much there at this 813 00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:38,960 point or at least getting close I mean if they were using a 22 nanometer 814 00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:45,680 process node to manufacture something as powerful as an iPhone 3S even seriously 815 00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:50,920 that would be one small power sipping chip that is capable of pretty much 816 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:55,599 anything You' need to do it no it's it's interesting um it would be cool to get 817 00:58:53,000 --> 00:59:01,599 our hands on one would you buy one personally probably no how much would 818 00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:03,920 you pay for one like if it was $2 you'd 819 00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:08,280 buy one right okay if it was $20 would you buy 820 00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:10,839 one depends on really $20 yeah wow 821 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:14,359 you're so cheap yeah if it was $20 you wouldn't buy an Android powered invest 822 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,640 okay this is that's a little bit biased but 823 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:23,520 anyways bear in mind it's made by it's made by Apple so it'll be like gorgeous 824 00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:28,160 so $20 will be just fine right okay like it's probably the piece of glass on it 825 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:31,559 comes out and it's like oh it can get different clock apps and it can play 826 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:35,839 music then I'm going to be like no I don't care cuz I like my Tokyo flash 827 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:40,440 Jaan what if it does all of the things that we've discussed already then yeah 828 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:44,160 then you're down how much I don't know but a fair amount $1 pretty boss 829 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:48,480 probably 200 that's pushing it that's pushing it 830 00:59:46,839 --> 00:59:51,760 okay because I'm not that interested in this particular product but if it was at 831 00:59:50,359 --> 00:59:56,319 a $200 price point I think that would sell like crazy okay so the thing about 832 00:59:54,200 --> 01:00:00,000 watches though is uh you know Mar expectations for the category would be 833 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:05,640 extremely high I mean if you're someone like Seiko or swiss how terrified are 834 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:10,039 you right now I think you're scrambling your butt 835 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:14,039 off trying to get a manufacturing partnership with some Android developer 836 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:19,319 because you know Android's probably going to fight back and try and release their own and you're probably just going 837 01:00:16,839 --> 01:00:24,920 oh God make us be the next Samsung because I mean watch guys have been able 838 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,720 to figure out for a long time how to 839 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:31,920 sorry keep going how to charge way too much for things like yeah yeah but at 840 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:37,599 the same time I think the classic kind of large old school like CU people still 841 01:00:35,559 --> 01:00:42,400 buy people will go and buy less technically Advanced watches to get the 842 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:46,880 intricate really really nice really really finely done watches because it's 843 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:51,400 a Prestige thing okay and times change there was also a time when a cell phone 844 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,720 was a status symbol because it was and you wanted it to be big and you wanted 845 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:59,480 to show it off and you wanted to talk on it whereas then the trend was let's make 846 01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:03,440 them as small as we freaking possibly can then that reversed and now they're 847 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:10,839 getting bigger I mean the the the the technology thing has taken over analog 848 01:01:08,119 --> 01:01:15,839 stuff Y in in almost in almost every category you look at so what does that 849 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:19,039 mean for a traditional business like 850 01:01:15,839 --> 01:01:21,319 watches where I think and Apple's so 851 01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:26,720 good at product placement that's true they can make it an iconic fashion 852 01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:31,000 statement movies whatever put it out there so no matter how much money Rolex 853 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:35,920 has to spend on product placement for rolex's which is I pretty much guarantee 854 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:39,119 you anyone here who owns a Rolex a huge chunk of the money you paid them was not 855 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:43,359 for the Rolex it was so that they could pay actors to wear them but anyway go 856 01:01:41,079 --> 01:01:48,599 ahead and like placement and having stores in Las Vegas and like all that 857 01:01:44,839 --> 01:01:51,119 kind of stuff yes um I think the big 858 01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:54,599 thing is because watches are still a huge fashion statement out of all the 859 01:01:52,839 --> 01:01:58,640 people that you know that wear watches most of them are probably wearing 860 01:01:56,039 --> 01:02:02,799 because it looks very nice okay so that might apply to the 40 and 30 somethings 861 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:06,359 that's more what I mean but what about 20 years so let's say let's say apple 862 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:11,359 releases a watch within this calendar year what about in the year 863 01:02:08,279 --> 01:02:14,520 2033 when an entire generation of people 864 01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:17,799 has now grown up with the concept that a 865 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:19,359 watch should tell you your text messages 866 01:02:17,799 --> 01:02:22,559 and you should be able to just kind of yell at it that the restaurant you're in 867 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:27,520 isn't very good and it'll post a one star review on your Urban Spoon like 868 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:32,000 that's interesting very interesting because there's constantly stuff online 869 01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:35,760 oh my three-year-old daughter was with me in the dentist office and had no idea 870 01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:39,839 what this magazine was and didn't and was trying to scroll down the page and 871 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:44,119 stuff and I'm just like like no idea I I told you that story yeah just like that 872 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:49,680 blows my freaking mind so you probably have a point there so the watch business 873 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:52,799 could just be dead in yes years the same 874 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:57,000 time they might be able to kind of 875 01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:59,520 maintain because well Niche yeah well by 876 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:03,119 adapting is my kind of thing because I think apple is going to go out 877 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:07,039 manufacture their own do everything on their own like they always 878 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:11,119 do uh Google is going to go okay we're building an Android platform for watches 879 01:03:09,319 --> 01:03:14,240 of course this is all speculation we're building an Android platform for watch 880 01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:17,359 we have no idea if any of this is true not a clue 881 01:03:17,559 --> 01:03:24,440 um uh we're building an Android platform for watches we need manufacturing 882 01:03:22,359 --> 01:03:27,400 Partners right people are going to step up people are going to adapt their game 883 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,839 going to come out we can make this awesome looking watch you guys load the 884 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:36,240 software on it we're good to go or they're going to be Kodak and they're going to say no it's a fad and they're 885 01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:42,640 going to be Kodak that's true or they'll be Kodak or 886 01:03:39,279 --> 01:03:47,000 Polaroid or they'll be uh Zer Xerox 887 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:48,960 giving away Mouse in UI yeah so um so 888 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:54,119 yeah so that's our little talk about the potential yeah Thompson in the twitch 889 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:58,279 chat says Apple will patent the wrist strap 890 01:03:56,279 --> 01:04:04,799 apple apple will somehow pen the word watch yeah and like you know the hands 891 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:08,760 that move around it or something um no we invented this yeah I 892 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,880 have no idea what you're talking about that's blasphemy we invented this I 893 01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:19,760 thought that was I thought that was pretty cool um next up we have ah 894 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:27,319 yes so um I'm just going to say that I can't 895 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:31,039 say much about it but there is in the 896 01:04:27,319 --> 01:04:34,599 mail right now Saturday 897 01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:36,480 delivery a product that slick and I are 898 01:04:34,599 --> 01:04:40,799 both extremely excited to get our hands on 899 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:47,440 I'm going to work on the weekend and be happy about it yes you 900 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:49,720 are and I'm not just saying that and 901 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:56,520 this is not a hint this has nothing to do with what 902 01:04:53,839 --> 01:05:00,000 might be in the mail um people aren't even posting it in the 903 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:06,400 in the chat they're still talking about watches the color of this &em has 904 01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:08,400 absolutely nothing to do with the oh 905 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:13,160 yeah you can have an m& if you want n what I have to steal it from you have to 906 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:15,200 steal it yeah you can't here no no it's 907 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:21,520 okay now you have it holding I don't want it you touched it it's gross 908 01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:23,079 um so we have heard some things there's 909 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:27,960 rumors all over the place there we go holy crap I think the stream is really 910 01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:29,599 far behind I don't know if you guys saw 911 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:35,920 the uh the rumor did you see that there was a posting I think it was Amazon or 912 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:38,680 new egg or some retailer posted a oh 913 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:45,039 yeah yes posted a product listing for the Titan card which is based on the 914 01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:47,039 same GPU as NVIDIA's Tesla card so those 915 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:50,200 are compute level cards this isn't necessarily what we're talking about 916 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:54,319 that's in the mail no this is an entirely different conversation what 917 01:05:52,520 --> 01:06:01,960 what was what's in the mail I don't know what's mail I is that like old 918 01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:04,400 technology okay yeah M yeah yeah um so 919 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:07,559 there was for for Titan which is what a lot of people in the twitch chat are 920 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:11,680 talking about I have no idea why but for Titan um there was a there was a 921 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:17,279 mistaken listing an early listing on one of the retailers that had it for 922 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:22,760 $1,500 did you see that you saw that right 923 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:25,720 $1,500 had it with six gigs of RAM yep 924 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:31,079 um some ludicrous clock speed I think was it a 512 bit bus I think it they had 925 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:36,720 it listed as a five yeah I'm pretty sure they had it listed it was [ __ ] yeah 926 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:40,200 52 bit bus um so B would which would 927 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,599 make it by far the most expensive and 928 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:49,960 most complex um graphics 929 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:51,599 card ever like ever by far so we have 930 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:56,240 something in the mail that's not at all related to that that we are extremely 931 01:06:53,640 --> 01:07:00,119 excited to check out and when we can talk about whatever may or 932 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:03,599 may not be in the mail we are incredibly excited about talking about that 933 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:08,680 whatever that is I just wanted to let you guys know that you can expect a 934 01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:12,200 lonus tech tips video uh which we should probably be calling slick Tech tips 935 01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:16,559 because he's going to be the one testing whatever may or may not be in the mail 936 01:07:14,039 --> 01:07:19,160 hypothetically testing it the the thing that has something to do with this 937 01:07:17,799 --> 01:07:24,319 nothing to do with that I don't know what is that why haven't you eaten that yet I gave it to you to eat you're just 938 01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:30,880 going to steal another one and put that one back or something it's all about being deceptive with you so uh so yeah 939 01:07:28,359 --> 01:07:35,440 guys um not everyone is going to have anything to talk about with relation to 940 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:40,079 this but we will um I see some comments in the twitch chat about the Aries 2 we 941 01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:43,799 did get our hands on Aries 2 today but we only had about half an hour with it 942 01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:48,480 so all we got done was an unboxing unfortunately but we did get like a nice 943 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:53,559 close look at it and I mean performance isn't exactly rocket surgery with that 944 01:07:50,640 --> 01:08:00,119 card it performs like 2 797s in crossfire gahz edition cards that are 945 01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:07,000 overclocked that is all I get asked a lot lonus how does a GTX 590 perform 946 01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:11,640 well it performs exactly like two 580s that are slightly underclocked and 947 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:14,319 running an SLI there's no magic that 948 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:21,719 goes into a dual GPU card a dual GPU card is two single GPU cards with the 949 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:25,480 exception of a little bit of efficiency that might come from combining the vrm 950 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:29,199 and having it all in one card so there's a little bit less waste was that that 951 01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:34,759 was all you were going to say I know that I'm just making sure but in terms 952 01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:38,839 of the actual connectivity some people have speculated to me that there's 953 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:42,239 voodoo magic that goes on because the gpus are closer together and can 954 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:46,359 communicate better no they can't no they're not they're just as far apart 955 01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:51,960 pretty much and the way that they communicate on that PCB together is via 956 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:55,679 an SLI Bridge or a crossfire Bridge that's all it is instead of a physical 957 01:08:53,560 --> 01:09:00,480 Bridge that's separate it traces in the form of a bridge they didn't redesign 958 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:07,199 the GPU to build a dual GPU card I'm let that sink in for a 959 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:09,759 minute all right getting like getting 960 01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:12,799 the manufacturing down and the R&D to make sure that it works all that kind of 961 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:17,319 stuff is a little bit yeah it's already enough but like it doesn't just 962 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:22,560 magically do better yeah honestly I prefer multiple 963 01:09:20,679 --> 01:09:27,560 if you if you need that much I would prefer to go multiple single gpus 964 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:29,799 instead of one big grouping of gpus this 965 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:34,279 is a segment that I've wanted to do for a while actually so we're going to go 966 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:38,759 ahead and fire this up so if you guys aren't already 967 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:43,600 active uh oh hold on if you guys aren't already active on 968 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:49,679 the Linus Tech tips Forum uh this is a new segment that I'm going to be pulling 969 01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:51,560 from the live stream from the lineus 970 01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:58,040 tech tips forum and it is going to be called featured worklog of the week so 971 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:03,159 there is a section of the Forum that is all about sort of builds that people are 972 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:07,719 working on and this one just stood out to me like crazy so this is by The Forum 973 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:13,280 member Doug and hopefully there's a way to zoom this in some more because Doug's 974 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:15,239 rig deserves to be shown off in more 975 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:21,960 Glory than I am able to give it right now with this feeble pathetic right 976 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:23,560 click right click no no not not open 977 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:30,679 image new tab open image and new tab open image and new tab open IM there we 978 01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:33,840 go oh fail never mind open image in new 979 01:10:30,679 --> 01:10:37,199 tab there we go all right so this is 980 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,920 Doug's blue and white Shinobi build 981 01:10:37,199 --> 01:10:43,239 which is absolutely beautiful it's all about the little touches in a build like 982 01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:48,199 this so for example you can see on his Corsair power supply he has covered up 983 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:52,120 the Corsair branding with a match it looks like he's actually painted it 984 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:55,800 looks like it yeah with a matching paint that goes along with the paint that he's 985 01:10:53,960 --> 01:11:00,679 put on his SSD beautiful sing as well yeah he's 986 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:04,159 gorgeous sing he's destroyed the warranty on these components but Doug 987 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:07,719 doesn't care because he's an Enthusiast and damn it that's what enthusiasts do 988 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:12,199 look at the hard drives the hard drives are also blue connectors are blue 989 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:17,560 everything down to the last sort of detail is just freaking fantastic so 990 01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:21,760 we're going to pull up this this other image this was the one that really stood 991 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:28,920 out to me so what I like about it is how plain and clean it is and yet how 992 01:11:26,199 --> 01:11:33,480 how just like out there it is with that color scheme like I've been on the 993 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:40,320 record saying a number of times that I think that ASUS's mainstream board color 994 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:43,199 scheme can just go put itself in someone 995 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:48,960 else's computer and not mine but Doug has made it work dang it so he's found 996 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:54,360 Corsair fans that also have that weird blue he's got white ones up here so he's 997 01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:58,960 got blue and white he's done his sleeving very very Tastefully some 998 01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:04,480 people do the one accent one some people do alternating I like what he's done 999 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:06,360 here because it's random but not random 1000 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:10,560 like it just oh it just looks good it's random but it works yeah he's sleeved 1001 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:15,400 his SATA cables as well so those look really sharp right here and actually in 1002 01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:22,199 terms of customization there's not much he's done all he did was cover the logo 1003 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:25,480 on his water cooler okay or remove it 1004 01:12:22,199 --> 01:12:27,600 rather uh he has covered this with a 1005 01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:31,880 piece of metal okay so you can't see the mounting the mounting points for the 1006 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:37,440 optical drive he's covered up this he's done some sleeving he painted his hard 1007 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:39,400 drive in his SSD and that's it but it 1008 01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:43,600 looks really good the effect is more than the sum of the of the mods that 1009 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:48,159 he's done so I thought this was a really really awesome rig and I'd love for more 1010 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:52,199 of the lonus tech tips Forum community members to post their Rigs and I'm going 1011 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:57,239 to make a point of choosing one at least one per week to Showcase during the live 1012 01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:02,719 stream so that everyone else can admire their work as well and we're going to 1013 01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:04,880 man I can't wait until vb5 goes gold 1014 01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:09,239 look at that though just that's fantastic beautiful sleeving on this I 1015 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:14,719 haven't seen this one I really really like build doogs I won there a lot but I haven't seen this guys yeah no this one 1016 01:13:12,639 --> 01:13:18,159 just just really really really stood out to me so I thought that was really cool 1017 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:21,320 wanted to share that with you guys I hope you enjoyed that gorgeous build I 1018 01:13:20,239 --> 01:13:28,080 actually you know what it's funny because normally the first thing I do when I look at a computer is I go oh 1019 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:31,920 what components did he use and was that balanced and blah blah blah blah blah I 1020 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:37,400 mean normally any any machine with a single 120 mm pre-done water cooling 1021 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:41,520 thing is kind of sort of off my radar in terms of coolness Factor but what he's 1022 01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:44,920 done yeah is he's turned it into a system yeah not a some of the parts I 1023 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:49,040 don't even know what graphics card he has didn't even look did you look did 1024 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:53,440 you even notice no I noticed that I had the nice white accent yep that's all but 1025 01:13:51,719 --> 01:13:57,400 that's all he turned that computer into a work of art that is more than just the 1026 01:13:55,239 --> 01:14:01,120 Su of the parts so I thought that was exceptional and without actually that 1027 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:05,719 much work I bet it took him a lot less time than I'm spending on my 1028 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:09,840 ring yeah but I'm still sure it took him time like there was some really really 1029 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:13,840 nicely done stuff in there that's true the the SSD cover was awesome the 1030 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:17,760 removal of the logo on the Block was like it's all done very well it's 1031 01:14:15,159 --> 01:14:23,120 Quality quality work have you um have you read any Surface Pro reviews none 1032 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:28,560 how do you not have any time to read anything what 1033 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:32,000 where did that come from uh Surface Pro it's kind of a big deal uh made by this 1034 01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:36,280 company called Apple they they make a lot of tablets no was made by Microsoft 1035 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:39,600 so Surface Pro I know of the Surface Pro I've read some Surface Pro reviews and 1036 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:44,199 there not super fluent in it I know it's awesome but has really low battery life 1037 01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:48,800 all right stolling okay you're unfired ones okay um so the Surface Pro guys the 1038 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:53,360 Surface Pro is out I've been asked to talk about it I don't have a unit 1039 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:58,040 unfortunately um I don't really have a hookup with Microsoft hard to be 1040 01:14:55,520 --> 01:15:02,000 perfectly honest even the surface I'm going to I'm going to make a little 1041 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:05,639 confession here I went and bought one and then I returned it cuz I didn't have 1042 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:11,719 the money to keep it it was it was good it yeah it was good if I was going to 1043 01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:13,960 buy a tablet I would have seriously 1044 01:15:11,719 --> 01:15:19,239 weighed my options and considered a surface uh versus the iPad 2 that I use 1045 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:23,320 now um actually versus pretty much anything I really liked surface so 1046 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:27,560 Surface Pro steps up Microsoft's game in a couple of big ways number one is 1047 01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:33,159 they've added an x86 processor in this case it's an Intel processor which just 1048 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:35,800 makes it like everything else looks like 1049 01:15:33,159 --> 01:15:39,320 a dog and pony show the fastest tablet out there well well when you compare it 1050 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:44,800 against more traditional tablets running Tegra 3 processors um you know S4 1051 01:15:42,199 --> 01:15:49,239 processors running Apple processors just everything looks like a joke compared to 1052 01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:54,480 Surface Pro it's pretty Beast yeah so there's that keep x86 compatibility 1053 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:59,000 meaning you can install any Windows compatible application on it that runs 1054 01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:05,920 on win 8 totally boss totally boss totally awesome um not because because 1055 01:16:03,679 --> 01:16:10,360 Microsoft opted for a high performance processor I can't remember is it a core 1056 01:16:07,639 --> 01:16:12,880 I 3 I I don't remember what it is like I said I did wanted to say I didn't read 1057 01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:19,239 about it because I didn't read about that much it's a real Chip not an atom 1058 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:21,000 so unlike ASUS's Vio Tab smart which can 1059 01:16:19,239 --> 01:16:25,120 run x86 applications but isn't particularly high performance but does 1060 01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:30,719 get about 8 Hour battery life which is good the Surface Pro is just way faster 1061 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:35,719 but suffers big time in terms of battery life so it only gets three and a half 4 1062 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:40,480 and a half hours of battery yeah which I personally 1063 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,600 find underwhelming it's hard to take 1064 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:45,840 seriously these days because here I'm gonna I'm going to harp on why don't you 1065 01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:50,600 tell them what you do know about Surface Pro do back in a minute we covered most 1066 01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:55,159 of what I do know about Service Pro um the main reason why I was excited is the 1067 01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:57,120 x86 compatibility um come from a 1068 01:16:55,159 --> 01:17:01,440 programming school so tablets are pretty much useless for me other than reading 1069 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:05,400 textbooks but and and like when I first showed up to my first class in 1070 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,880 postsecondary I was like oh I want a tablet so I can like take notes on it 1071 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:13,400 and I was like oh wait I can't install anything that's useful for me in this class yeah so it was just not feasible 1072 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:17,679 so Surface Pro makes it actually feasible um so yeah Surface Pro does 1073 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:22,440 that the thing that bothers me about it though is it's not a tablet in terms of 1074 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:25,280 its form factor I wouldn't even consider or in terms it's a tablet in terms of it 1075 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:29,639 form factor sorry it's a little thicker than a normal um but it's not AET in 1076 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:33,840 terms of its battery life which to me is a big part of Mobility I would not and 1077 01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:41,040 you can I'll go on the record saying this in fact I'm doing it now I would not upgrade my iPad 2 to an iPad 3 or an 1078 01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:46,400 iPad 4 if you gave me the option to do a straight swap I wouldn't take it go 1079 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:51,560 ahead and ask me why it be better life that's right you answered your own 1080 01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:53,719 question before whatever man uh iPad 2 1081 01:17:51,560 --> 01:18:00,000 has better battery life than either iPad 3 or iPad 4 which for me because I only 1082 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,560 use it occasionally the only convenience 1083 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:06,600 that comes out of a tablet is knowing that when I pick it up it still has a charge on it that's that's it that's the 1084 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:10,360 only compelling thing about it I mean it's a tablet it's stupid you can't type 1085 01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:14,920 on it we were thinking about using a tablet as our slate before shots yes the 1086 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:17,840 Slate is you write like the shot number and the take number and the scene number 1087 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:22,800 Mak it easier in editing and then you do The Clapper thing and Diesel complained 1088 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:26,600 that we didn't slate he's got a point but we totally didn't he does have a 1089 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:31,960 um so we're thinking about doing that but then we're just like ah if it runs out of battery life then we're screwed 1090 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:35,600 I'd rather just have a whiteboard and a marker because we know it'll always work 1091 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,800 so so that to me is the convenience of a tablet and a tablet that only has a 1092 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:42,520 4-Hour battery life is not a tablet to me that's a notebook even though the 1093 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:46,159 form factor is gorgeous in a tablet and it still has the kickstand which I still 1094 01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:50,400 think is awesome but if I was going to buy something and Surface Pro is not 1095 01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:53,400 cheap it's around a thousand bucks if I was going to buy something like that why 1096 01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:58,880 don't I spend an extra $200 and get an AC S7 1097 01:18:55,440 --> 01:19:01,120 this laptop is Freo this is an awesome 1098 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:06,239 notebook it has Gorilla Glass up on here it's super slim it's 1099 01:19:04,639 --> 01:19:10,280 about as thin as an iPhone well it's a little thicker than an iPhone 4 but it 1100 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:15,480 is super slim it's okay the iPhone 4 is upstairs um I was going to grab it has a 1101 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:21,639 1080p IPS screen so 1080p just like the surface pro has a full keyboard it is 1102 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:24,280 light enough that I can hold it with two 1103 01:19:21,639 --> 01:19:27,679 f with one finger like this so it is actually 1104 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:31,159 legit light enough to just oh yeah there's oh yeah there's an SSD okay here 1105 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:36,080 here here let's do the uh size comparison with the SSD there you go so 1106 01:19:33,679 --> 01:19:39,679 it's extremely slim um it's light enough that you could legit walk around with it 1107 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:45,679 in one hand and use it as a touchscreen device like a tablet why don't I just 1108 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:47,760 get this because Surface Pro is not 1109 01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:52,840 really that much more portable because this folds so thin that you can tuck it 1110 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:58,840 into I mean even by the time you put it in its sleeve it's not not much bigger 1111 01:19:56,679 --> 01:20:03,840 the only use case that I can even pretty much think about is remember when we 1112 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:08,400 were flying to Vegas and I tried to whip out my laptop on the 1113 01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:12,719 plane okay right remember when I was like so in a confined space when you're 1114 01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:16,320 in a confined space which is not as applicable to most people in Canada but 1115 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:22,120 around the world is more and more applicable it's kind of yeah trying to 1116 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:27,120 use needing to use the keyboard when you're cramped up is difficult if you 1117 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:30,120 can go like this and just tap on your tablet way easier but then this is a 1118 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,440 touch screen is it not it's a touch screen so then you could use it in that 1119 01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:37,920 case with an on screen keyboard so here think about it so put yourself in a 1120 01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:41,880 plain seat and hold 1121 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:43,440 this okay oh oh oh oh don't worry you 1122 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:47,560 got this you got this under control can you use that on a plane um not even 1123 01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:51,320 really the keyboard because the same kind of situation but then the screen is 1124 01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:55,840 perfect easy to use of course I'm spinning I'm going to hit the table oh 1125 01:20:53,239 --> 01:20:59,000 barely made it if I type you that would be one nice thing if you could install 1126 01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:04,000 an app that would make it so if you actually tapped on the screen that it 1127 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:06,560 would bring up an on screen keyboard oh 1128 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:12,760 my God I'm using pwm control to keep him spinning cuz he hits 1129 01:21:08,440 --> 01:21:14,880 me with full force a rthm every time not 1130 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:18,440 very keeps my momentum up so if you could actually tap on the screen I'm 1131 01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:24,639 going to try and keep this facing the cam that's not going to work if you 1132 01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,639 could tap on the screen and have it whoa 1133 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:35,920 whoa this is what the live stream would be like if we were both like under the 1134 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:39,639 influence of something like who Whoa man 1135 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:41,400 if you could just tap on the screen then 1136 01:21:39,639 --> 01:21:46,320 stop hitting it it's a nice laptop leave it alone oh okay fine fair enough it can 1137 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:51,120 handle it I know it can hand Gorilla Glass okay go ahead anyways if you could 1138 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:54,280 if it like if you could maybe change what mode it was in and be like I only 1139 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:58,880 want to use the screen and then have it so if it would react like a tablet so if 1140 01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:01,760 you click on a text area like a notepad if it would automatically bring up a 1141 01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:05,040 typing screen that would be cool is that available is that willing to bet that's 1142 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:08,719 a thing I'm willing to bet that you can turn off that would be very cool there 1143 01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:13,880 has to be a way to do that like there just has to be because that would be fantastic like settings and one thing 1144 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:17,800 that kind of solves this whole thing we is there it is it's in the charms menu 1145 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:21,480 which is the convenient place in Windows 8 where you can access pretty much 1146 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:25,320 everything settings keyboard touch beautiful but does that if I go to a 1147 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:31,400 different app here Windows Okay Internet Explorer there you 1148 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:35,679 go okay you're not showing them what you're doing but yeah there you go 1149 01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:38,840 keyboard I clicked in a text area so email phone number to log into Facebook 1150 01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:42,199 and that automatically brought up the keyboard so that's fine another laptop 1151 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:47,840 that comes across this this has an awesome hinge but another laptop that 1152 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:49,360 goes Bey above and beyond is the uh yoga 1153 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:53,000 yes right the yoga so that's that's another that's one that has a hinge that 1154 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:58,040 goes all the way around so you can use it as a tablet and as a notebook and is 1155 01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:05,040 actually not that expensive compared to Surface Pro as well so I guess to me 1156 01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:07,679 Surface Pro fills a niche that I didn't 1157 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:11,639 have however Haswell Haswell is going to be a big 1158 01:23:09,679 --> 01:23:17,600 deal because Surface Pro is using like a 13 watt chip or something like that like 1159 01:23:13,719 --> 01:23:18,920 it's it's low tens of Watts or like we 1160 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:23,600 talked about this before we're both actually pretty surprised if you remember this conversation that they 1161 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:27,960 didn't just wait we know they're under like marketing pressure all that kind of 1162 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:31,000 stuff they something would be is going 1163 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:33,199 to be so much better so Surface Pro 2 1164 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:37,239 which has potentially eight hours of battery life all of a sudden thousand 1165 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:41,239 bucks I may be buying one that's probably the Sweet Spot starts to be 1166 01:23:39,639 --> 01:23:45,679 like okay that's actually awesome yeah so Surface Pro one I think I'm I'm a 1167 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:49,520 little bit I'm a little bit weary of uh where did that keyboard go it always 1168 01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:53,360 vanishes I know I think I'm I think it's always you who moves it I literally 1169 01:23:51,679 --> 01:23:56,440 never touch it because it's so small that I can't it 1170 01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:03,080 why did you spin me around in my chair until I couldn't see anything well that was just like 1171 01:24:00,679 --> 01:24:07,920 cool um okay so let's go back to Twitter for a little 1172 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:09,520 bit 389 new interactions I'm sorry that 1173 01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:12,480 we've ignored Twitter you guys inter explor is the only we haven't done 1174 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:16,719 anything with that laptop yeah that laptop it's a laner unit so we haven't 1175 01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:24,400 exactly uh we didn't bother install browsers using stock stuff what are you 1176 01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:25,639 doing man can John just kind of um not 1177 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:31,520 have inappropriate stuff all over his Twitter feed look at his at handle I 1178 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:33,560 know why does he do this cuz he's John 1179 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:39,840 my friend is selling a 7970 and offered to trade for my GTX 670 and 20 1180 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:43,520 bucks yeah go for it unless it has bad coil wine and 1181 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:49,199 because you're buying it used you have the opportunity to check it out first are you excited for Bungie's new game 1182 01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:53,239 Destiny trailer this Sunday isn't it a little early to be excited if we don't 1183 01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:57,520 even have a trailer yet and I like with what uh what is it take two Studios I 1184 01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:01,400 like what the new company did with it I was a pretty big fan of Halo for Halo 1 1185 01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:05,520 and Halo 2 and then Halo 3 just completely ruined it for me and then the 1186 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:08,880 newest Halo I played a little bit but I'm not exactly a console gamer at all 1187 01:25:07,159 --> 01:25:14,639 anymore so it was kind of awkward because I'm like how do I do things what 1188 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:19,159 you're spinning again just trying to imagine playing with a that's pretty 1189 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:23,320 much it cuz keyboard mous or die but anyways it seemed a lot more polished 1190 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:29,840 than like reach which was kind of terrible so no not particularly 1191 01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:32,119 excited uh good question Scott you have 1192 01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:37,800 to figure out where the green wire would be and uh Bridge those ones um don't 1193 01:25:36,119 --> 01:25:41,159 guess wrong though what's the best computer case for 70 bucks hard to say 1194 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:45,199 there's not that much that's that great for 70 bucks uh probably a cheap Cooler 1195 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:51,840 Master would be your best bet yeah and the MSI Interceptor is on sale for 1196 01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:53,760 $49.99 is the Shinobi around 70 bucks 1197 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,800 sometimes on promo I think it is watch for PR 1198 01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:59,440 that's where you're going to get your good cases at that price yeah uh with 1199 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:05,239 the new consoles using eight core processors will feature PC games a better multicore support you know what I 1200 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:10,080 would have said that last generation yeah cuz cell are Xbox has 1201 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:13,560 three cores which back then was a big deal and cell has how many cores does 1202 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:17,760 cell have like six or something stupid like that remember I don't remember it 1203 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:22,000 has a bunch of cores stronger though why because they didn't optimize it last 1204 01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:25,560 time right even though there was lots of multicore Awesomeness going on in there 1205 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:29,199 still think it'll be a little bit stronger well we can hope uh we don't 1206 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:33,760 need smart everything even fridges have the smart title I think phones are enough Mitch you're wrong and in 20 1207 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:40,159 years we can have this conversation again and I can tell you how wrong you are because everything is going to be 1208 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:44,560 smart and everything is going to be connected when okay um stuff like 1209 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:47,520 fridges and stuff like washing machines that are all coming out with like 1210 01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:51,440 Wireless connectivity and all this ridiculous stuff sounds nuts until you 1211 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:56,560 start hearing use cases of people that are actually developing stuff for it yes 1212 01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:59,639 um a friend and I worked on a Arduino 1213 01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:01,440 controller rig was it Arduino or was it 1214 01:26:59,639 --> 01:27:05,719 pretty sure it was Arduino um and we have it set up in the bottom of his 1215 01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:09,600 apartment complex so that he can like he has it tucked in behind the washing 1216 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:14,800 machine and the dryer so people don't see it and he just connects it together 1217 01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:18,880 and then puts his wash in and it sends him an email when it's done right so he 1218 01:27:17,639 --> 01:27:23,480 doesn't have to keep checking on it random times or even bother to figure out how long the thing takes because it 1219 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:28,040 just sends him an email right away and the problem right now is how fragmented 1220 01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:32,600 it is because there's all these competing companies and all these 1221 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:37,000 competing standards once someone strong enough whether it's a general electric 1222 01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:41,960 or whether it's like once someone strong enough comes in and says no this is how 1223 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:46,440 we're doing it and standards can start being built around that then we're in 1224 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:50,679 for very exciting times what if you're yes because honestly right now a 1225 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:54,280 lot of it sucks which is why you're going why do I need a smart fridge 1226 01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:57,239 because most of them suck right why do I a smart TV smart TVs are stupid they 1227 01:27:56,040 --> 01:28:03,480 don't work with a bunch of different file types and the webcam is terrible cuz most of them suck but it's coming 1228 01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:08,480 and these incremental improvements have to come AR drone V1 the one on the wall 1229 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:13,440 behind me had a terrible camera not very good range the replacement has HD and 1230 01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:17,760 works with wireless end and goes much further like these iterations have to 1231 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:21,679 happen in order to ever deliver a truly finished product now imagine this what 1232 01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,520 if your smart TV could do more than just have a touchcreen on the front that you 1233 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:29,480 can browse the web and look at recipes on what if your smart TV inte or your 1234 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:34,800 smart TV your smart fridge integrated with every single item you had in your 1235 01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:39,840 fridge using cameras all over the place knew you had a tomato and all you had to 1236 01:28:37,639 --> 01:28:43,119 do was go on your tablet look at a recipe and go I'm going to make that and 1237 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:50,239 your fridge would send you a shopping list for all the things you don't have yet or you can even go hey fridge what 1238 01:28:48,119 --> 01:28:53,320 can I make tonight what can I make or what do you recommend me because the 1239 01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:57,199 fridge knows what you like because of reviews you've given it that's right and 1240 01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:01,480 and the food that you actually have inside of it your fridge could set up uh 1241 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:05,960 I mean okay here here here so work this into something like what Amazon's doing 1242 01:29:03,239 --> 01:29:09,239 with um with their same day shipping what if Amazon gets the infrastructure 1243 01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:14,760 figured out to the point where they can do food within like an hour or two all 1244 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:18,840 of a sudden instead of you know take out from a restaurant you might be ordering 1245 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:23,280 through your fridge your fridge might go oh okay it's almost time for dinner um 1246 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:27,159 Tuesday's our macaroni night it could place an order automatically with Amazon 1247 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:31,880 they could deliver it to you 2 hours later the fresh groceries arrive at your 1248 01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:36,119 door you put them on the stove you make the food and then you don't even have to 1249 01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:39,800 even inventory food necessarily in your fridge so much so it becomes an exercise 1250 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:43,480 in in run rate and replenishment I mean we're going back to the Milkman yeah 1251 01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,800 pretty much I was actually just going to say we're going back to the Milkman concept that's right we're going back to 1252 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:52,000 the Milkman concept what happened to fresh 1253 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:57,080 food it's gone fresh food might be making a comeback because of Technology 1254 01:29:54,320 --> 01:30:00,679 like smart fridges so there that is my argument for smart fridges and why 1255 01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:05,920 they're not actually stupid well they're stupid now yeah yeah but like it's it's 1256 01:30:04,199 --> 01:30:08,920 the future we're looking into and when he was talking about iterations of 1257 01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:13,679 things like the AR drone we were just talking about that with the Surface Pro 1258 01:30:11,159 --> 01:30:17,040 yes right right okay the second one is what we're like we said The Sweet Spot 1259 01:30:15,639 --> 01:30:21,760 that's a very good point you're unfired again where am I even at I'm not sure 1260 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:27,199 anymore figure greeings from lvia what about the rumors of postponing the AMD 1261 01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:30,159 8,000 series till next 1262 01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:34,400 year can we even I don't know there was a there was a thing on Hardware Conns so 1263 01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:38,920 we can well that was on Hardware con we can talk about the article okay I didn't 1264 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:43,040 read that so AMD has already said that they're going to be refreshing the 7,000 1265 01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:46,840 series um this was an article on Hardware conu where Hardware conu says 1266 01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:51,080 AMD said so I don't have any kind of validation from AMD about this seriously 1267 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:54,880 I don't actually no I don't but the guy I was talking to today he he knew 1268 01:30:52,440 --> 01:31:01,280 nothing um so it's going to be somewhere between a 7800 series or 7700 series and 1269 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,880 a 7800 series as a refresh um at least 1270 01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:07,360 so that much they're talking about now so while it might not end up being 1271 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:12,840 called 8,000 series AMD will be releasing some kind of GPU product some 1272 01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:17,440 at some point um according to the hardware conu article sometime in the 1273 01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:23,159 first half of 2013 so it's not like they're just you know going to lie there 1274 01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:24,760 and sort of you know have NVIDIA just 1275 01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:28,600 kind of like rub Titan in their face it's not not going 1276 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:34,480 to be quite like that guys so I'm I'm excited to see what they're actually 1277 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:38,159 doing and it wouldn't be the first time 1278 01:31:34,480 --> 01:31:41,760 one of these GPU makers supposed GPU 1279 01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:46,199 makers has gone and pulled some kind of 1280 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:49,520 Rogue BS CIA tactic I mean 8,000 to 1281 01:31:46,199 --> 01:31:53,159 9,000 Series NVIDIA as a retailer when 1282 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:54,880 NVIDIA launched the GTX 680 we all f it 1283 01:31:53,159 --> 01:32:00,800 was coming in at $5.99 NVIDIA pulled a price move okay 1284 01:31:58,679 --> 01:32:05,320 nobody knew this none of the add-in board Partners which they're not called 1285 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:09,119 for NVIDIA they're called abps oh no Adin board Partners it's aibs for AMD 1286 01:32:08,119 --> 01:32:13,440 anyway this these are important distinctions uh none of the add-in board 1287 01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:18,880 partners for NVIDIA even knew so they were all charging their customers 1288 01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:23,159 according to a 599 sell price NVIDIA Dropped a Bomb like the day before 1289 01:32:21,159 --> 01:32:27,040 launch and dropped the price to $4.99 before it even launched 1290 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:32,560 and I suspect they intended this all along so a lot of the rumors and a lot 1291 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:36,639 of the stuff you see out there is intentional leaks that are meant to 1292 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:41,719 mislead the competition and meant to sort of generate stir up Buzz commun 1293 01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:46,320 stir the pot and get people talking the amount of Buzz that's going around about 1294 01:32:43,119 --> 01:32:49,239 Titan is just absolutely insane like oh 1295 01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:54,080 yeah it's crazy nuts it's absolutely ridiculous like we've seen stuff like 1296 01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:56,239 this before but this is kind of up there 1297 01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:58,880 for the amount of Buzz we've ever seen like it's it's kind of cool it's an 1298 01:32:57,639 --> 01:33:03,239 interesting new aspect that they're taking it's gk10 Chip all that kind of 1299 01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:08,199 stuff like that's that's cool but still got any more topics uh actually kind of 1300 01:33:06,080 --> 01:33:11,440 this is my uh we haven't really sat and taken very many Twitter questions like 1301 01:33:09,719 --> 01:33:14,080 we just took a few okay want to do some now 1302 01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:23,320 sure that's USB mic for under $100 uh which scene is the Twitter scene 1303 01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:28,360 there we go best USB mic for under1 $100 I haven't tried tried way too many USB 1304 01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:32,360 mics this might be a better question for 1305 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:33,840 diesel at diesel the intern um but I've 1306 01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:41,480 had a lot of really good experiences and read a lot of really good reviews of blue mics uh BL I have a Blue Snowball 1307 01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:45,960 and it's fantastic is that under $100 yep oh okay and my brother has a Blue 1308 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:51,000 Yeti which I think is a lot closer to $100 if not slightly over it might be 1309 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:54,239 like 89 or it might be 110 I don't know exactly where it is but it's somewhere 1310 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:58,040 closer to the $100 price point they're generally extremely well regarded so 1311 01:33:56,080 --> 01:34:04,000 maybe it's not really good maybe there's some obscure brand like from like latva 1312 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:07,000 that makes a better one but if you bought a Blue mic you'd probably be 1313 01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:12,960 satisfied they're really really good what was that site you were talking 1314 01:34:09,239 --> 01:34:15,360 about sorry man got no idea no context 1315 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:18,280 um Singularity computers apparently makes an awesome custom Prodigy build so 1316 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:24,400 if you guys aren't afraid of clicking links on the uh Twitter stream then go ahead and check that out that's cool we 1317 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:27,199 made ours in like yeah ours was done in like what two two and a half hours three 1318 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:35,560 hours not even that's including filming time oh yeah that's true that included filming the whole process so is the 7970 1319 01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:36,920 Matrix work worth the extra um no idea 1320 01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:40,760 DK is making a water block for it you should check with them about that as for 1321 01:34:38,719 --> 01:34:47,400 whether it's worth the extra hard to say it does perform better it is as of right 1322 01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:49,679 now this exact moment the highest 1323 01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:52,520 performing single GPU card however what I would probably do is I would hold out 1324 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:57,040 for a little while and see if any kind of higher performance single GPU card 1325 01:34:54,400 --> 01:35:01,199 comes out hey guys I'm back went on a trip with the family missed a lot am I 1326 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:06,320 invited to the tech tips team anymore Nick you are the man and um you're as 1327 01:35:04,239 --> 01:35:10,000 invited as you ever were did we ever invite him to anything uh we were 1328 01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:14,199 talking about it and then there was no communication and then I closed 1329 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:18,119 invitations for the mod team oh bummer we're currently not recruiting for the 1330 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:22,719 mod team sorry ni sorry man um I would use a watch like that good what is the 1331 01:35:20,679 --> 01:35:26,800 battery life for that S7 not that great without the extra battery pack I'm not 1332 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:30,199 that impressed it does have a pretty cool extra battery pack though but it 1333 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:34,800 has a cool extra battery pack and it comes with it comes with it and mounts 1334 01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:38,719 and doesn't look stupid um so I think with the without the extra battery pack 1335 01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,719 I mean I haven't actually had it run out of battery on me yet or anything I I 1336 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:46,440 haven't I haven't had it run out so it's hard to say I'm getting a Zonar Essence 1337 01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:51,920 STX next week because of Ulus yes you are cool now respect what is the best 1338 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:56,000 AMD Mini ITX motherboard I don't even think there is a current gen one 1339 01:35:54,199 --> 01:36:01,920 I mean part of the problem is that uh pile driver and bulldozer uh put out so 1340 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,119 much heat and the socket is so big and 1341 01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:11,119 there's so much overhead because of the mounting bracket it's really hard to build an ITX board for it so just go 1342 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:14,480 Intel sorry um that that motherboard 1343 01:36:11,119 --> 01:36:16,840 yeah get a p8 z77 i whatever Deluxe the 1344 01:36:14,480 --> 01:36:19,719 good one yeah um was wondering what kind of hit to lifespan hold on I'll get 1345 01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:24,440 there oh no there's no there's no Windows 8 giveaway tonight actually I 1346 01:36:21,719 --> 01:36:28,560 could do one I have that copy of Windows 8 that I won at um 1347 01:36:26,440 --> 01:36:32,440 CES should we do another Windows 8 giveaway Just for Old Time sake sure but 1348 01:36:30,679 --> 01:36:38,639 this one's from us we can make whatever we want the question did you ever send 1349 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:40,239 the prize winner to me from last week no 1350 01:36:38,639 --> 01:36:43,760 can you do that okay because you said you were 1351 01:36:42,119 --> 01:36:46,560 going to look it up you walked you walked to your computer and said I'm 1352 01:36:45,159 --> 01:36:52,600 going to go find it now I hope you can find 1353 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:54,159 it I hope I can too okay so what should 1354 01:36:52,600 --> 01:37:00,199 we make our question for this week guys we're doing a Windows 8 Pro 1355 01:36:57,080 --> 01:37:02,360 giveaway um what's our question going to 1356 01:37:00,199 --> 01:37:08,320 be let's doesn't have to be about Windows anymore be about anything this 1357 01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:10,679 is ours now it's 1358 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:14,800 ours you know what we never let them participate in the uh I I asked I asked 1359 01:37:13,159 --> 01:37:18,520 a question on Twitter and then we never actually took any of the answers what 1360 01:37:16,679 --> 01:37:24,199 was your question I don't remember like at all like do you 1361 01:37:21,440 --> 01:37:28,280 remember the black and yellow I that was uh guy sent it to me when I like first 1362 01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:32,040 started on Twitter and it was actually pretty boss buil he had an EMP power and 1363 01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:35,719 he had a lightning and you had all the stuff looked really good yes a 200 R is 1364 01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:40,520 a pretty good budget case I mean it's budget so it's not that great but when 1365 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:46,040 are you going to get a 4k monitor I probably not until they hit 1500 to two 1366 01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:48,199 grand I think that's my 1367 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:51,960 threshold I just upgraded my monitors I'm not looking for upgrade for quite a 1368 01:37:49,639 --> 01:37:57,520 while um I haven't upgraded my monitor in over three years now yeah yeah well 1369 01:37:54,040 --> 01:38:00,119 before before that one it was 6 years 1370 01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:04,920 for my main Monitor and the secondary monitor I was using it was like 10 or 11 1371 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:08,960 years for that one so I was pretty much due time um James asks any personal rig 1372 01:38:07,639 --> 01:38:14,520 updates there will be a personal rig update coming soon I promise uh the 1373 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:17,760 personal rig is being worked on right now well not right now the second 1374 01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:21,639 because I'm live streaming but it is being worked on I pretty much always rag 1375 01:38:19,599 --> 01:38:26,800 on him for it but he is actually making ground now you saw that worked on right 1376 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:31,199 there the motherboard is in it I actually haven't seen that last I saw 1377 01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:36,400 was GED wings uh yeah GED wings are in it I'm tweeting updates so I'm tweeting 1378 01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:40,679 pictures as I go um I don't really watch his Twitter so know yeah whatever man I 1379 01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:44,000 just got 50 megabit down internet what router should I get honestly it's 1380 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:50,520 probably not that important for 50 megabit apparently you stole a blue 1381 01:38:46,679 --> 01:38:52,239 emem why do you tell them we are we are 1382 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:56,960 working on oh yeah this is this is something we are working on benchmarks 1383 01:38:54,360 --> 01:39:02,239 for the 8350 versus the 3570 so you finished one test bench already right 1384 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:05,560 yes I did the 8350 is done no wait what 1385 01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:07,599 357k on Windows 7 I thought we were 1386 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:11,760 going to test on Windows 8 only I just did you just veto that yeah since when 1387 01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:16,800 can you veto things what do you think this is since you stopped benchmarking 1388 01:39:13,239 --> 01:39:18,920 stuff okay uh okay here is apparently a 1389 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:21,880 link to the Titan online retail listing careful about that yeah we're not going 1390 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:26,679 to click on it it's okay um when is the NDA no idea or at least if we did know 1391 01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:30,000 we couldn't say where did you get the tea balancer I ordered it online they 1392 01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:34,119 have notification SmartWatches already Sony mobile yeah they've had 1393 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:38,880 notifications yeah but I want like the whole shebang yeah and this is why 1394 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:43,760 friends don't let friends push pull um no no too 1395 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:47,320 scary um and no that was not a Galaxy 780 that was a Galaxy 1396 01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:53,400 670 DS sends a suest suggestion when you 1397 01:39:51,599 --> 01:40:00,440 say you're going to do Twitter twittery Q and A how about actually doing 1398 01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:03,480 it where did that card even go okay okay 1399 01:40:00,440 --> 01:40:06,040 look at the it says on the yeah 670 1400 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:09,239 right there there um smart watches have no place I always lose watches anyway 1401 01:40:07,880 --> 01:40:15,360 slicks right there underpowered and generally not good well hopefully that 1402 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:18,719 all gets addressed yeah why not a 1403 01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:22,000 gauntlet great question smart 1404 01:40:18,719 --> 01:40:23,840 Gauntlet just yeah I mean that would be 1405 01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:27,520 so blinging it's so big you're automatically ganger I feel like I'm in 1406 01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,520 like 1407 01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:35,360 reboot ah the pebble that's right that was the one that was the one I was 1408 01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:39,199 thinking of Market's ready whenever Apple says so or Apple's really good at 1409 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:42,960 figuring out when the Market's ready just saying that's true uh Google Glass 1410 01:40:40,840 --> 01:40:48,320 is another crazy one that's going yes for Apple watch if they make a 1411 01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:52,599 fast easy and not stupid to use okay that's very important like it has to be 1412 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:56,239 good and the problem is um without Steve around they've been releasing some crap 1413 01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:00,320 Steve was still around I'm sure it would be good I'm sure Google or Apple Maps 1414 01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:05,840 would never have made it relas jobs there um David says I would pay anything 1415 01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:07,920 for an omni tool from Mass Effect 1416 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:11,679 yeah yeah don't need a smartwatch because I have a nice watch and I have a 1417 01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:15,639 smartphone but then again I used to say the same thing about why would I need a 1418 01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:21,679 smartphone if I have a pocket PC and a phone but that's two devices right 1419 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:24,199 that's the same thing yeah 1420 01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:28,520 but okay it's two two as opposed to 2 to3 is that what you're trying to say uh 1421 01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:31,920 Sony SmartWatch Android watch okay battery life will be a problem since 1422 01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:35,920 watches shouldn't be too big however blinged out watches a lot of the time 1423 01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:39,679 are big yeah very often they're really big you could check things look at 1424 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:44,679 customizable watch control your phone MP3 look at GPS while you're walking NFC 1425 01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:51,080 would be actually kindy cool NFC would be really cool NFC would be balling but 1426 01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:53,239 NFC just destroys battery life yeah so 1427 01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:57,920 I'd be really interested to see that some type of like uh not even 1428 01:41:54,719 --> 01:41:59,159 necessarily NFC but like RFID technology 1429 01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:03,159 right okay just for like unlocking gateways or whatever watches are like 1430 01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:08,760 cars just a status symbol no matter the tech not necessarily it is though you 1431 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:11,000 can buy a $4 Casio yeah but in a lot of 1432 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:16,000 CAS like he has a point though I think that little niched market of like 1433 01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:20,639 ridiculously stupidly high-end watches that'll still exist yeah yeah but that 1434 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:24,679 won't sustain the company completely for every 1435 01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:28,760 $250,000 watch that Rolex gets to sell they need to move some $25,000 ones 1436 01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:32,560 they're moving more than 10 of those for every one of those like they you need 1437 01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:36,800 everything oh yeah sure and I I mean not every car is a stat okay right but fancy 1438 01:42:34,599 --> 01:42:40,480 ones are I don't think I own anything that's a status 1439 01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:43,679 symbol I was just thinking my car is not a status symbol not necessarily status 1440 01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:47,719 symbols to most people but you have some canot has definitely that's true okay we 1441 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:52,840 have different status symbols than most people do that's true hey I have 12 1442 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:55,159 copies of Dota 2 and don't need them uh Dan 1443 01:42:53,639 --> 01:42:59,760 my suggestion would be head over to linch tips.com head over to the Forum 1444 01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:03,719 and see if you can find some cool community members maybe even you know 1445 01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:07,760 make it a fun little game for yourself find someone who left a great reply for 1446 01:43:05,639 --> 01:43:12,400 somebody and then just award them a key because they're awesome that's key and 1447 01:43:09,719 --> 01:43:16,719 leave a a note in the thread great reply thanks so much and we appreciate your 1448 01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:20,040 Pat would that would be boss if you did that that would be very well yeah 1449 01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:24,280 they're out there but not selling well again it's all about the Apple Factor no 1450 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:30,159 one's really marketing them that hardcore yeah apple will Market it 1451 01:43:26,719 --> 01:43:31,760 hardcore okay no to the watch why don't 1452 01:43:30,159 --> 01:43:36,000 you just smash a glass bottle on your wrist what would you do if you fell over and SM I mean come on man you could make 1453 01:43:34,440 --> 01:43:41,599 the same argument about a smartphone why would you carry a piece of glass in your pocket if you fell over it could smash 1454 01:43:38,480 --> 01:43:43,599 it and hly it's going to be not glass 1455 01:43:41,599 --> 01:43:47,520 all the way around here and then glass just on the very top this be very very 1456 01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:51,320 very durable glass on sorry James sorry James Apple will find a way to make 1457 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:55,520 people want one Ubuntu phone we've talked about Ubuntu phone at CES 1458 01:43:53,639 --> 01:44:00,480 slick and your ideas are good but the problem is the size so doesn't have to 1459 01:43:57,679 --> 01:44:04,040 be that big but screen size he's right screen size could be a factor although I 1460 01:44:02,679 --> 01:44:07,800 mean the thing about a watch is it's very sort of you know if you can't see 1461 01:44:05,719 --> 01:44:11,119 very yeah you're going like this like it's going to be pretty close closer 1462 01:44:09,679 --> 01:44:14,960 than most people hold their phones and as long as it has a retina display like 1463 01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:19,599 uh and I see look at me using Apple's branding terminology for things as long 1464 01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:24,119 as it has a high pixel per inch display high resolution high resol high pixel 1465 01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:28,599 density display High a display as long as it has a retina display I'm sure 1466 01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:31,639 it'll be fine not time yet when they can 1467 01:44:28,599 --> 01:44:34,040 make the Smartwatch replace the 1468 01:44:31,639 --> 01:44:38,360 phone or process for something like Google Glasses then maybe but that's how 1469 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:42,679 the ecosystem will work is the phone might be like a processing offload for 1470 01:44:41,199 --> 01:44:46,719 the watch and the glasses that's what kind of what we were talking about is you connect it to your phone and then 1471 01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:50,840 your phone would actually do everything EOS to the watch 1472 01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:54,320 everything on the subject with the texting you can set up a quick message 1473 01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:57,760 so instead of typing you can select text just like when you're on your phone and 1474 01:44:56,159 --> 01:45:00,440 you get a text and you can be like sorry I can't I'm driving or whatever or when 1475 01:44:59,159 --> 01:45:05,800 you get a phone call you can reply with a text so that could be a really cool thing uh yep yeah there's the pebble 1476 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:10,840 again which is really really cool I don't remember anything about it but I read about it at some point and I 1477 01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:15,040 thought it was cool what will it do and will there be internet plans how will it 1478 01:45:12,599 --> 01:45:20,119 work I'm sure there'll be internet plans what if it's not you're going to find 1479 01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:22,320 some way to try and monetize it for the 1480 01:45:20,119 --> 01:45:26,040 isps okay maybe there will probably be Wi-Fi and 3G version and Smart Watchers 1481 01:45:24,599 --> 01:45:30,239 could be kind of like a pager so we could be back to the pager concept it 1482 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:34,280 could also just be tethering yep oh yeah it could just tether your smartphone 1483 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:39,760 Apple will pull it off anyway I think that when we're okay so uh recommend 1484 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:45,159 water cooling tubing Primo chill Primo Flex LRT yep that's it we have some like 1485 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:54,760 right on the other side of that one yeah because it's the best it's for my personal rig only only the finest the 1486 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:57,760 finest tubing my tubing status symbol 1487 01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:59,719 all right guys I think that is pretty 1488 01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:04,000 much it we actually ran 15 minutes over today thank you for tuning into to the 1489 01:46:01,719 --> 01:46:08,159 live stream and we will see you guys next time uh I don't think I had any 1490 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:12,000 more topics that I really really wanted to talk about oh yeah the Penny's gone 1491 01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:15,960 in Canada that was something I wanted to talk about like two weeks ago yeah 1492 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:21,679 that's been a bit um and that's pretty much it good night 1493 01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:25,760 everyone or good morning or good afternoon or 1494 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:30,480 I don't know good whatever is in with span of 24 hours good noon actually no 1495 01:46:28,679 --> 01:46:36,040 it won't be quite noon anywhere because it's a quarter quarter two the hour so 1496 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:41,119 oh yeah so that's not really a thing yeah 1497 01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:42,760 um good evening possibly didn't cover 1498 01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:48,760 that yet possibly good dinner supper good 1499 01:46:49,719 --> 01:46:56,199 night good night 1500 01:46:53,800 --> 01:47:00,960 oh my God just stop the stream good night you need to go to bed I need to go 1501 01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:05,199 home you don't even know the reference do you no I don't oh okay well where is 1502 01:47:03,119 --> 01:47:09,199 it from here we go here we go here we here we go here we go here we go I might 1503 01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:16,080 know once you show me but I don't think so okay Monty Python job interview come 1504 01:47:13,239 --> 01:47:19,320 on have you seen it yeah okay well for those of you who haven't seen it I just 1505 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:23,199 haven't seen Monty Python in a ridiculously long time remember to make 1506 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:26,159 it quiet or at least mute so there the uh there's the silly job interview no no 1507 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:32,199 I'm going to I'm going to turn it off so hopefully they can I really enjoy interviewing applicants for this 1508 01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:32,199 Management training 1509 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,560 course 1510 01:47:36,679 --> 01:47:42,719 morning good afternoon good afternoon 1511 01:47:43,159 --> 01:47:50,960 yeah why did you ring the bell why do you um sounds pretty good 1512 01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:09,960 he's doing the uncomfortable hands thing yeah so uh so yeah so that that that was 1513 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:14,719 the reference there that wasn't just random and we're actually turning off 1514 01:48:11,719 --> 01:48:14,719 now