WEBVTT 00:00:00.340 --> 00:00:07.440 It's finally here. We have all the pieces we need to put together our iMac Pro 00:00:07.540 --> 00:00:11.060 We've got a new iMac Pro 5k display 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:19.040 We've got a new logic board complete with CPU and RAM that are by the way socketed and not soldered on so 00:00:20.060 --> 00:00:24.480 Yeah, we covered that in part two and we have the one and only Lewis Rossman 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:26.920 from Rossman Group 00:00:26.920 --> 00:00:31.080 Time to learn how to put together an iMac and as I say, you should never learn on your own stuff 00:00:31.080 --> 00:00:38.100 Always learn on somebody else's. Wait, no, you're supposed to learn on your own. Is that how this goes? Who, like me, has never actually 00:00:38.980 --> 00:00:43.100 assembled an iMac Pro, so let's have some fun today, shall we? 00:00:44.500 --> 00:00:51.340 Sponsored of course by Mr. Rossman's favorite tool company, iFixit. They're screwdrivers of a very nice personality 00:00:51.340 --> 00:00:56.560 iFixit is your one-stop shop for repair tools and guides for pretty much everything under the sun 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:57.440 You can check out the link 00:00:57.440 --> 00:01:11.640 To their pro-tech toolkit in the video description. So Anthony's laid everything out for us pretty much. We've got our 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:18.060 Fan component of the thermal solution. We've got all the picks and adhesive strips and everything that we should need 00:01:18.060 --> 00:01:23.220 We've got their little prop up thing for the doodad here that goes in there 00:01:23.220 --> 00:01:28.260 And then of course, is this your first time seeing an iMac Pro logic board in person? 00:01:28.260 --> 00:01:35.160 This is my first time. So why don't you kind of walk us through some of the things that are more and or less obvious? 00:01:35.160 --> 00:01:37.440 I mean, I actually have one right off the bat here 00:01:37.440 --> 00:01:42.360 Somebody's getting fired because the RAM is not soldered to the board. For some reason Apple's gone with this weirdo 00:01:42.780 --> 00:01:46.040 configuration with five DRAM chips per side 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:50.240 So normally you would have four or eight and the the fifth one is for ECC 00:01:50.240 --> 00:01:54.480 That's error checking and that's a feature of the Xeon W processor that's in there 00:01:54.480 --> 00:01:57.480 But why wouldn't they just put all of them on the one side? 00:01:57.480 --> 00:02:02.760 Why would they do a dual sided DIMM for this? Maybe to get more on a single DIMM. These are just 8 gig DIMMs 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:05.120 Maybe they planned on it, but then that person got fired 00:02:05.160 --> 00:02:09.540 Because may using too much memory would result in a not not efficient power usage. Wait, no 00:02:09.540 --> 00:02:10.680 That was the excuse they used in the retina 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:14.380 I mean a lot of people have asked like why they might have gone with 00:02:15.040 --> 00:02:19.980 socketed memory rather than soldering the memory on because we all know that Apple's sort of MO here is 00:02:20.740 --> 00:02:27.980 Making as few components on the board upgradeable by the end-user. And the CPU is socketed too. That's another person that's gonna get fired 00:02:27.980 --> 00:02:29.980 So I figured it out 00:02:29.980 --> 00:02:35.060 Someone at Apple was just like you know what if we want to deliver enough 00:02:35.160 --> 00:02:41.880 Configurations without spending a bunch of money for the sole purpose of making things less upgradeable for the user 00:02:42.620 --> 00:02:44.620 sockets make a lot of sense 00:02:44.620 --> 00:02:49.660 More than idea Apple and if the processor fails you don't have to buy a new board and what's the cost of that board? 00:02:49.660 --> 00:02:51.040 Except that you do 00:02:51.040 --> 00:02:57.140 You do know what Apple only sells the logic board as a complete unit 00:02:57.140 --> 00:03:01.200 But with the CPU and the RAM already in it 00:03:01.200 --> 00:03:04.540 What if you only have a bad CPU because even though they're socketed 00:03:04.540 --> 00:03:10.080 They still treat it like a single unit. So what happens if you have a bad RAM stick? Okay that one 00:03:10.080 --> 00:03:13.620 I don't know but I know that when we had to buy the new logic board 00:03:13.620 --> 00:03:20.100 We had to send back our CPU and RAM if we wanted to qualify for replacement pricing, which there's still a chance 00:03:20.100 --> 00:03:24.920 I heard from our contact who got us this so there's still a chance we can get replacement pricing on it 00:03:24.920 --> 00:03:28.560 So you have to send back everything and if you don't send back everything you don't get replacement pricing 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:32.640 But you get charged twice the actual price of it, which is already four times the price that it should cost in any other computer 00:03:32.820 --> 00:03:34.020 Yes, well 00:03:34.020 --> 00:03:35.510 Go Apple 00:03:35.510 --> 00:03:38.390 So those are the standard SSDs you could buy on Newegg, right? 00:03:38.390 --> 00:03:40.870 I mean in their defense their SSDs do perform pretty well 00:03:40.870 --> 00:03:43.710 So I'll give them that but a lot of people asked us 00:03:43.710 --> 00:03:47.170 Well, why were you guys opening up an iMac Pro in the first place? 00:03:47.170 --> 00:03:48.270 It's not meant to be opened 00:03:48.270 --> 00:03:54.430 The reason we were opening it was because we wanted to shed some light on the cooling solution that Apple is using for up 00:03:54.430 --> 00:03:58.650 to an 18 core processor and a vega 64 GPU 00:03:58.650 --> 00:04:04.270 Just looking at it tells us everything we need to know about how much this sucker is gonna thermal 00:04:04.310 --> 00:04:07.970 throttle and in order for us to take our thermal throttling results and 00:04:08.950 --> 00:04:14.150 Sanity check them. This is why we were opening it because we're a review channel 00:04:14.150 --> 00:04:18.110 And we know that opening up the product is not something that everyone's gonna do 00:04:18.390 --> 00:04:23.930 But this is a pro product in a professional environment where you you might actually have 00:04:24.630 --> 00:04:30.390 technicians on staff to help people through both software and hardware issues it is my 00:04:31.110 --> 00:04:33.650 expectation that you would be able to user service 00:04:34.310 --> 00:04:38.790 A professional machine and you would be able to get the parts that you need. Is that an unreasonable thing? 00:04:38.790 --> 00:04:43.170 I think it's very unreasonable that you expect that you should be able to clean the dust out of it three years from now and it's 00:04:43.170 --> 00:04:48.750 Filled with junk and runs 30 Celsius hotter when they say that you're not supposed to open it. It's not designed to be open 00:04:48.750 --> 00:04:52.590 I can understand that to an extent but wouldn't you want to open it so that you can clean it three years from now? 00:04:52.590 --> 00:04:54.130 There's so many of these old machines 00:04:54.130 --> 00:04:57.590 They wind up dying when the graphics chips start running 20 and 30 Celsius hotter 00:04:57.590 --> 00:05:03.630 Yeah, and this design if you blow compressed air in there, it's just going to wind up blowing the dust around the machine 00:05:03.630 --> 00:05:04.150 Yeah, no 00:05:04.150 --> 00:05:06.990 Here here what we can do is we can kind of we can kind of line this up 00:05:06.990 --> 00:05:09.210 And this is something that's very difficult to do if you don't actually 00:05:09.490 --> 00:05:11.010 Open it up and have a look at it 00:05:11.010 --> 00:05:15.150 So if you were to blow dust or if you were to blow air through through this 00:05:15.610 --> 00:05:20.330 Very thoughtfully designed baffle here so that you don't get as much noise from the fan 00:05:20.330 --> 00:05:23.190 I guess which is neat if you open any of these that are more than three years old 00:05:23.190 --> 00:05:27.090 I would be surprised if the fan even spins just based on how much dust are in here after a few years 00:05:27.090 --> 00:05:30.710 So you would want to open it just to be able to blow it out and you can't do that in this machine 00:05:30.710 --> 00:05:34.110 So it makes sense that somebody would want to open this not now than a few years from now 00:05:34.150 --> 00:05:37.690 If they want it to last at least and Apple wanted to last right, right? 00:05:37.910 --> 00:05:44.610 Is there anything about this main board that should that makes it special it does have a GPU built right into it? 00:05:44.610 --> 00:05:48.790 Which is either a feature or a drawback depending on how you look at it. It's a good board 00:05:48.790 --> 00:05:53.270 It has to some extent it has four Thunderbolt ports for USB ports ether and 10 gig LAN 00:05:53.270 --> 00:05:58.590 It does use the same USB-C muxing that the touch bars did and I remember with the touch bars when I tried to use 00:05:58.590 --> 00:06:03.890 A third-party dongle rather than the original Apple dongle that didn't work and the original Apple dongle was like 80 bucks 00:06:04.150 --> 00:06:07.870 I mean this a quantia chipset it to buy a card with this on it is about a hundred bucks 00:06:07.870 --> 00:06:12.650 I can understand how if it comes with the graphics card and it's specifically custom designed for this machine 00:06:12.650 --> 00:06:17.170 Like I could see how this board would cost. Yeah, like I would say this is a solid eight hundred nine hundred dollar board 00:06:17.170 --> 00:06:19.690 Okay, cool, but not four thousand dollars 00:06:19.690 --> 00:06:25.630 What that's how much the non-replacement pricing is if you break the the warranty void if removed seals on it 00:06:25.630 --> 00:06:31.090 And when we priced out the iMac Pro we actually found that compared to a an apples to apples 00:06:32.870 --> 00:06:34.070 PC with a Xeon 00:06:34.070 --> 00:06:39.470 W like trying to get feature and performance parity it was actually pretty darn similar 00:06:39.470 --> 00:06:46.670 So it's only when you want to try to get a replacement part and you don't have the untouched by non authorized 00:06:46.950 --> 00:06:48.690 technicians like yourself 00:06:48.690 --> 00:06:52.310 Pricing that you really get owned rammed. Yeah 00:06:52.310 --> 00:06:55.550 I'm sure that's really the unit more PG PG. Yeah 00:06:56.790 --> 00:07:02.390 I didn't think I'd bring this guy on and he'd be the one toning my language down the entire machine 00:07:02.390 --> 00:07:03.990 It's not necessarily that much of a ripoff 00:07:03.990 --> 00:07:08.610 Considering the form factor that you get in it and when you do actually price it with a display that's for a PC 00:07:08.610 --> 00:07:11.250 That would be equal. It actually isn't the terrible deal spec wise 00:07:11.250 --> 00:07:15.750 It's just if you ever have anything go wrong with it ever then you're really screwed 00:07:15.750 --> 00:07:20.750 I do think that Apple could do more to design things not to fail 00:07:20.750 --> 00:07:24.230 And when you look at this cooling solution the inability to clean out the dust 00:07:24.230 --> 00:07:31.530 We look at the 500 watt power supply like this to me is common-sense stuff when I initially set out to build a computer 00:07:31.530 --> 00:07:33.530 There's not a whole friggin lot to it, right? 00:07:33.990 --> 00:07:40.110 It's like putting together Lego you got your form factor, which Apple does a great job of you got your acoustics 00:07:40.110 --> 00:07:46.710 And you got your thermals that's step one of building a computer make sure that it's not gonna overheat 00:07:46.710 --> 00:07:51.270 And it's not gonna be super loud. Oh and don't use a crappy power supply so that it doesn't blow up in two years 00:07:51.270 --> 00:07:55.650 I'm just surprised by the heatsink because I know that in many of their machines they focus on it being quiet 00:07:55.650 --> 00:07:57.990 Which is a good thing they want a machine to not make noise 00:07:57.990 --> 00:08:02.310 But if you want it to not make noise you would want a larger heatsink not a smaller one and what they've done with 00:08:02.310 --> 00:08:03.030 a lot of the newer machines 00:08:03.030 --> 00:08:03.910 They took the 00:08:03.910 --> 00:08:08.730 2013-14 design, which is actually a really nice design except the fan just doesn't turn on for another 20 C 00:08:08.830 --> 00:08:13.530 Okay, so should we get started then they get to figure out that I don't know how it goes together 00:08:13.530 --> 00:08:18.930 Yeah, I know now now now neither of us looks like I buy looks like an expert. Yeah, I know so I've done 00:08:18.930 --> 00:08:20.730 I've done an iMac 00:08:20.730 --> 00:08:26.670 5k, but I've never done an iMac Pro like in terms of disassembly and reassembly. Have you done an iMac 5k? No 00:08:26.670 --> 00:08:30.010 Oh really last time I reassembled an iMac was 2012 or 13 00:08:30.010 --> 00:08:33.250 Most of what we do is liquid damage repairs, but you got to be pretty special too 00:08:33.910 --> 00:08:37.670 You don't want to spill water on here. Yeah, like water typically goes down not sideways 00:08:37.690 --> 00:08:41.130 You'd have to be drinking water over a bare board sitting on a table 00:08:41.130 --> 00:08:44.130 Yeah, you have to just like fountain it into your iMac and hope it falls through the screen 00:08:44.130 --> 00:08:46.130 Or someone has to say something really funny 00:08:46.130 --> 00:08:50.510 The one thing that sucks with this form factor at least for the older ones is that if you want to replace the hard drive 00:08:50.510 --> 00:08:54.270 You have to remove the screen to get to the drive and the screen cable is short 00:08:54.270 --> 00:08:58.290 So when people take the screen out, they don't realize that they have to hold the screen on their chest 00:08:58.290 --> 00:09:03.030 They don't do that. They just take the screen out like this. They wind up ripping the screen connector right off the board 00:09:03.030 --> 00:09:03.450 Okay 00:09:03.450 --> 00:09:03.850 So 00:09:03.850 --> 00:09:07.930 Do we want to put this no, you know, I mean no just up it should be okay, right? 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:12.750 Well, hold on a second cuz we've got we've got brackets in here called like Wi-Fi and stuff 00:09:12.750 --> 00:09:15.670 So I want to make sure that we're that's this has Ethernet though, right? 00:09:15.670 --> 00:09:19.630 That's one thing that I have to say I love about Apple. They're wireless 00:09:20.490 --> 00:09:25.770 It's just they're the only ones that I'm aware of that do a three by three by in 00:09:26.470 --> 00:09:30.390 In a notebook because everyone else is using the mini PCIe standard 00:09:30.390 --> 00:09:34.490 Yeah, that is just not physically large enough to do a three by so this looks like 00:09:34.710 --> 00:09:38.630 Some kind of sense for the power supply, I guess. Okay, so hold on 00:09:38.630 --> 00:09:44.330 We've probably got to got to put this put this lead in. Oh, okay. That one comes around as well. Hmm. Okay 00:09:48.150 --> 00:09:54.910 This guy's blocking you hold on hold on and oh that's lifting up some kind of cover that probably serves some kind of purpose here 00:09:54.910 --> 00:09:59.810 Hold on. Okay, it covers coils. Yeah covers things that you shouldn't touch I guess 00:09:59.810 --> 00:10:03.550 Let me see if I can kind of guide you in here. Stay out cables 00:10:03.550 --> 00:10:04.550 You really? 00:10:04.550 --> 00:10:09.650 Go ham like it's funny cuz I get a lot of flack for just kind of like going for it with stuff 00:10:09.650 --> 00:10:13.310 Oh, yeah, but as far as we know this board works, so please do be very careful 00:10:14.400 --> 00:10:16.320 No pressure 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.420 Why did I fly him in from New York to do this for me? 00:10:19.880 --> 00:10:26.920 So I could learn there we go. Now. We're now we're getting in there. There we go. Let a bing. Okay. All right 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:29.200 It's like being a dentist. It's like say 00:10:30.060 --> 00:10:32.060 Yes 00:10:32.780 --> 00:10:35.180 Yeah, okay, do we want to screw it in first? 00:10:35.260 --> 00:10:38.660 Maybe or no, we want to see if it works before you screw it in 00:10:38.660 --> 00:10:43.380 It's bad luck to screw it in before you see if it works. So my thing is I don't close the panel first 00:10:43.760 --> 00:10:46.040 But I I'm willing to screw in a board 00:10:46.040 --> 00:10:51.080 I'll put in at least a couple screws because I don't like I don't like motherboards sliding around on standoffs 00:10:51.080 --> 00:10:53.840 Oh, yeah, can I put in two screws? Okay? 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:59.040 stressing out here 00:10:59.040 --> 00:11:07.440 one thing about working on a PC like this that legitimately should require certification and legitimately is dangerous for the average person 00:11:07.820 --> 00:11:13.880 Is the fact that it has exposed it on the capacitors on their power supplies? No, there's no 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:19.780 No, no, there's nothing that goes on here. It's just like this. That is extremely dangerous. You could die 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.340 This this is nothing. This is no tongue-in-cheek. Haha Apple or anything like that 00:11:24.340 --> 00:11:30.840 Just I've never actually seen another finished goods product like this with an exposed power supply 00:11:31.040 --> 00:11:37.620 Like that and as far as I can tell the only reason they've done it is so that they can use the cooler unit here 00:11:38.020 --> 00:11:44.740 To cool the power supply without it having its own fan, which would because of the thin form factor be quite small and therefore whiny 00:11:44.740 --> 00:11:49.940 I'm surprised they didn't put at least some sort of cage over it that happened to be grounded so that if somebody was going into 00:11:49.940 --> 00:11:50.780 Let's say clean their fan 00:11:50.780 --> 00:11:53.580 They don't do that because this is one of those things where I like to joke in my videos 00:11:53.580 --> 00:11:58.560 But I would not want to touch that and there is a good chance of somebody opening this and actually hurting themselves 00:11:58.560 --> 00:12:05.040 Even if it's unplugged. Yeah, because those two capacitors will stay charged for a long time after long time sometimes months or even years 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.080 You don't mess around with that stuff 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.080 now actually on the subject of 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:12.140 These things being exposed a lot of people have asked us 00:12:12.140 --> 00:12:17.340 What exactly happened because the way that we showed our iMac Pro failure 00:12:17.520 --> 00:12:24.120 was in the form of like a reenactment because obviously the camera wasn't rolling while we while we dropped the display 00:12:24.740 --> 00:12:28.940 Yeah, those sparks those after effects drawn sparks very well 00:12:29.100 --> 00:12:35.420 I know we deceived everyone I believed in you so what actually happened was 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:36.560 when 00:12:36.560 --> 00:12:41.780 Anthony was removing the display he bridged something in here and it caused 00:12:41.780 --> 00:12:47.440 a spark which startled him and caused him to drop the display that was what 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:51.920 actually happened and because the spark was on the motherboard that's why from 00:12:51.920 --> 00:12:57.980 the very beginning we have deceived no one we knew we definitely had a broken 00:12:57.980 --> 00:13:03.300 display but we knew we also possibly had a dead motherboard and therefore by 00:13:03.300 --> 00:13:06.880 extension a dead power supply actually the spark was off the power supply 00:13:06.880 --> 00:13:11.040 wasn't it so you know it's funny a shield would have prevented all of this 00:13:11.040 --> 00:13:13.960 the shield would have prevented how interesting so sorry the spark on the 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:17.740 power supply so you know when you short out a power supply you can kind of kill 00:13:17.740 --> 00:13:21.600 almost anything downstream and because on this particular machine the power for 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:25.140 everything runs through the motherboard it was probably gonna burn something on 00:13:25.140 --> 00:13:27.840 the motherboard before it carried through to something else so that was 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:31.200 where our conclusion came from we knew we definitely had a dead screen because 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.300 it was cracked we knew that we potentially 00:13:33.300 --> 00:13:36.540 had a dead power supply and a dead motherboard but that our other 00:13:36.540 --> 00:13:43.260 components probably worked with that said I've seen a lot of shorts occur in 00:13:43.260 --> 00:13:47.220 my day that have not resulted in dead hardware or I've seen them partially 00:13:47.220 --> 00:13:51.840 fail like oh well now that USB port doesn't work anymore yeah if you send 12 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:55.440 volts to the 5 volt rail your machines dead if you send 12 volts to ground you 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:59.020 just saw a big spark but it's nothing that's gonna actually kill it wow you 00:13:59.020 --> 00:14:02.940 know those viewers are right this is really complicated 00:14:03.300 --> 00:14:07.020 because I mean the whole thing like oh these are it's like a supercar you saw 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:10.760 those comments right it's not designed to be you know taken apart and put 00:14:10.760 --> 00:14:14.680 together and I'm kind of like well then how does Apple you know take it apart 00:14:14.680 --> 00:14:18.720 and put it together because they can they just wouldn't or can they so here's 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:23.780 another thing that would definitely require training the screws for the 00:14:23.780 --> 00:14:28.720 power supply and for just generally mounting the motherboard are threaded 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:32.920 the same as far as I can tell but they should not be confused because the power supply was not working 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:35.980 The ones have these washers on them 00:14:35.980 --> 00:14:37.100 and they're actually designed. 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:38.320 We were talking about this off camera. 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.560 How does the power supply connect to the motherboard? 00:14:40.560 --> 00:14:44.660 It's actually through screw connections here. 00:14:44.660 --> 00:14:49.340 So these ones with the little kind of mark next to them 00:14:49.340 --> 00:14:51.480 that looks like there's a little oval shaped mark. 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:53.520 Those ones use the silver screws 00:14:53.520 --> 00:14:55.640 and then everything else uses the black ones. 00:14:55.640 --> 00:14:57.000 That is a bit of a trick 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:58.600 and you would need to be very careful 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:02.380 with something like that. 00:15:02.380 --> 00:15:03.520 Oh, not that one. 00:15:03.520 --> 00:15:05.040 These two. 00:15:05.040 --> 00:15:06.220 That moment when you bring in 00:15:06.220 --> 00:15:09.040 like a celebrity repair technician 00:15:09.040 --> 00:15:10.400 and it turns out maybe you should have gotten 00:15:10.400 --> 00:15:12.260 a real repair technician, you know? 00:15:12.260 --> 00:15:13.100 Yeah. 00:15:13.100 --> 00:15:14.500 In all seriousness though, 00:15:14.500 --> 00:15:15.860 this is not very difficult, is it? 00:15:15.860 --> 00:15:17.660 This takes about five minutes. 00:15:17.660 --> 00:15:20.960 Should an Apple authorized service provider, 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:23.040 like is there any justifiable reason 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:25.820 why they shouldn't be able to just stock replacement parts 00:15:25.820 --> 00:15:27.700 for an operation like this 00:15:27.700 --> 00:15:30.240 and be able to turn a board swap around 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:31.660 for a customer in a day? 00:15:31.660 --> 00:15:33.620 The reason that they don't want them to have parts in stock 00:15:33.620 --> 00:15:34.640 is because they're afraid 00:15:34.640 --> 00:15:35.020 of them ending up in a mess. 00:15:35.020 --> 00:15:35.880 They're afraid of them ending up on the open market 00:15:35.880 --> 00:15:37.240 or on eBay or being resold. 00:15:37.240 --> 00:15:39.380 Like that data recovery tool that I had bought 00:15:39.380 --> 00:15:40.700 for the new Touch Bar MacBooks, 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:43.200 I got it from some likely authorized service center 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:45.060 that was selling all of them on the side. 00:15:45.060 --> 00:15:47.800 The downside of it is that if the parts are not stocked, 00:15:47.800 --> 00:15:50.120 the customer has to wait one to three weeks to get it in. 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:51.480 If you tell somebody it's gonna take longer 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:53.640 than two to five days, they just walk out of the store. 00:15:53.640 --> 00:15:55.400 This is an entirely different story. 00:15:55.400 --> 00:15:58.800 Imagine for a second that I'm not some YouTuber, 00:15:58.800 --> 00:16:01.080 also a celebrity technician, you know? 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:03.780 Imagine that I bought this $5,000 machine 00:16:03.780 --> 00:16:05.020 so that I could, uh, 00:16:05.020 --> 00:16:07.940 run my, you know, home graphic design business. 00:16:07.940 --> 00:16:09.600 Imagine that someone told me 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:12.240 this is gonna cost more to repair 00:16:12.240 --> 00:16:13.920 than I initially spent on it. 00:16:13.920 --> 00:16:15.200 How does that make any sense? 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.580 The thing that made me most furious 00:16:17.580 --> 00:16:21.260 was the people acting like that argument made any sense. 00:16:21.260 --> 00:16:23.800 That a machine could be a total write-off 00:16:23.800 --> 00:16:26.780 when not every component of it was dead. 00:16:26.780 --> 00:16:29.120 Yeah, no broadcast facility is gonna allow that. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:30.580 Any sort of recording studio, 00:16:30.580 --> 00:16:32.460 any sort of video or news editing room, 00:16:32.460 --> 00:16:34.900 they expect that there be virtually no downtime. 00:16:34.900 --> 00:16:36.420 They're gonna have a machine to swap in a place 00:16:36.420 --> 00:16:38.020 and they expect to be able to repair this 00:16:38.020 --> 00:16:39.340 because they're using it for real work. 00:16:39.340 --> 00:16:41.740 Not to mention for a reasonable price. 00:16:41.740 --> 00:16:45.280 I expect when I buy a replacement piece of something, 00:16:45.280 --> 00:16:48.100 whether it's a car or a vacuum cleaner, 00:16:48.100 --> 00:16:51.300 that if I were to buy every piece of it 00:16:51.300 --> 00:16:53.480 and assemble it myself, 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:55.200 it should cost a little bit more. 00:16:55.200 --> 00:16:58.360 But I don't expect that if I were to buy all the pieces 00:16:58.360 --> 00:16:59.480 as replacement parts, 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:01.920 that the machine would cost literally double, 00:17:01.920 --> 00:17:03.740 even if I'm putting it together myself. 00:17:03.740 --> 00:17:04.880 That doesn't make any sense. 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:06.700 Anyone making the argument 00:17:06.700 --> 00:17:09.720 that Apple can't sell it to me for cheaper 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.000 because they gotta make money their business 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:13.640 is clearly not doing the math. 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:15.920 Because if Apple couldn't afford to sell me this board 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:17.880 for around $1,000, 00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.940 then they couldn't afford to build this computer. 00:17:20.940 --> 00:17:22.720 I think I doofed on this one. 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:25.260 So the Wi-Fi thing is also a little bit tricky. 00:17:25.260 --> 00:17:26.940 You gotta slide it into four little notches 00:17:26.940 --> 00:17:28.000 on this shield right here. 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.680 SD card area thing. 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:31.920 The card reader is over here somewhere. 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:32.980 So it's over here somewhere. 00:17:32.980 --> 00:17:34.880 Oh, it's to hold that doodad in. 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:35.900 I've done worse. 00:17:35.900 --> 00:17:37.900 Okay, let's not turn this into a competition 00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:39.900 of which of us has done worse 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:41.340 because that's not gonna be, 00:17:41.340 --> 00:17:42.180 that's not- 00:17:42.180 --> 00:17:43.760 Setting the Thunderbolt circuit on fire. 00:17:43.760 --> 00:17:46.000 We were talking about credibility earlier, you know? 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.380 That's not gonna help either of us. 00:17:47.380 --> 00:17:50.140 The thing is sometimes I'll read out the letter 00:17:50.140 --> 00:17:52.060 that somebody sent in with their machine. 00:17:52.060 --> 00:17:54.560 So they'll know, okay, he's working on mine. 00:17:54.560 --> 00:17:55.520 And then when I'm streaming it, 00:17:55.520 --> 00:17:56.660 they'll see like me saying, 00:17:56.660 --> 00:17:58.800 okay, this is just for Thunderbolt, but screw this. 00:17:58.800 --> 00:18:01.340 I'll just take this out and I'll go vink, vink, vink. 00:18:01.340 --> 00:18:02.700 And then he'll get a call later saying, 00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:03.880 excuse me, was that my machine 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:05.400 that he just ripped the Thunderbolt USB 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:06.460 and Wi-Fi circuitry off? 00:18:06.460 --> 00:18:07.820 And then I'll have to explain to him. 00:18:07.820 --> 00:18:09.000 No, he's joking. 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.040 He's gonna put that back when he gets it to turn on. 00:18:11.040 --> 00:18:12.680 And then he'll like walk over to me and say, 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.840 did you stream knocking all that stuff off the box? 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:19.840 You watched these videos before you sent it here. 00:18:19.840 --> 00:18:20.880 You must've been expecting, 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:21.960 like you know what you're getting. 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:24.000 It's not like it's false advertising. 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:25.560 See, this is like me and my wife. 00:18:25.560 --> 00:18:28.120 Like I'll make some sort of like really offensive 00:18:28.120 --> 00:18:29.000 off color joke. 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:30.520 And I'm just like, hon, I mean, 00:18:30.520 --> 00:18:33.340 we were dating for six or seven years 00:18:33.340 --> 00:18:34.320 before we got married. 00:18:34.320 --> 00:18:35.160 You knew what you were buying. 00:18:35.160 --> 00:18:37.860 You knew, yeah, that's what I am. 00:18:37.860 --> 00:18:39.400 But yeah, when people watch the live streams 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:40.500 of their stuff getting fixed, 00:18:40.500 --> 00:18:42.260 I can only imagine how stressful that is 00:18:42.260 --> 00:18:44.300 because of the show that I put on for it. 00:18:44.300 --> 00:18:47.120 What you're saying, everything you see on TV 00:18:47.120 --> 00:18:50.920 is not, you know, an accurate reflection of real life. 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:52.220 You put on a show. 00:18:52.220 --> 00:18:53.540 No way. 00:18:53.540 --> 00:18:56.560 I think the real takeaway here is that if we can handle this 00:18:56.560 --> 00:18:58.960 Apple's store probably could have handled this. 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:00.940 All right, let's see if we get fan spin. 00:19:00.940 --> 00:19:02.260 It may not actually do that. 00:19:02.260 --> 00:19:03.540 Now there's a lot of, 00:19:03.540 --> 00:19:05.800 there's a lot of stuff wired into the display, 00:19:05.800 --> 00:19:07.380 not just DisplayPort. 00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:08.220 Fan spin. 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:09.060 Oh, we did. 00:19:09.060 --> 00:19:09.990 We're done. 00:19:09.990 --> 00:19:11.070 Yeah, so I can go home. 00:19:12.940 --> 00:19:14.100 We have to put the panel back on. 00:19:14.100 --> 00:19:15.480 That's the whole point. 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:16.400 Fan spin. 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:17.840 That's what was broken. 00:19:17.840 --> 00:19:19.580 Fan spin. 00:19:19.580 --> 00:19:24.520 So this is the one actually like special thing that you need. 00:19:24.520 --> 00:19:26.720 And it's a part that iFixit sells. 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.280 If you were to take apart and put back together an iMac Pro, 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:32.000 other than that, you just need like a screwdriver, 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.440 a couple of Torx bits. 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:35.820 Nothing really special. 00:19:35.820 --> 00:19:40.740 Like you'd be surprised how many repairs you only really need 00:19:40.740 --> 00:19:42.780 a pretty basic tool kit for. 00:19:42.780 --> 00:19:44.500 This is the hardest part of this repair actually, 00:19:44.500 --> 00:19:46.120 is finding the proper adhesive. 00:19:46.120 --> 00:19:48.700 And this goes back almost 10 years with this stuff is that 00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:50.480 if you can open it up, you can, 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.540 it's putting it back together that's difficult. 00:19:52.540 --> 00:19:53.380 Because if you try to, 00:19:53.380 --> 00:19:55.200 if you just go to Home Depot and try to find adhesive 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.520 that fits, it's just going to fall right out. 00:19:57.520 --> 00:19:59.560 Oh, they sent two just thinking they knew who they were. 00:19:59.560 --> 00:20:01.620 iFixit does sell really good adhesive tool kits 00:20:01.620 --> 00:20:02.720 for these machines I'll say. 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:03.680 Well, no, I was saying they sent two. 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:05.400 They clearly knew who they were dealing with. 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:06.240 Oh yeah. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:08.760 They expected me to screw it up once. 00:20:08.760 --> 00:20:11.240 We brought up the guide for putting on the strips. 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:12.360 You really don't want to screw this up 00:20:12.360 --> 00:20:13.680 because they're one-time use. 00:20:13.680 --> 00:20:14.740 Oh, holy crap. 00:20:14.740 --> 00:20:17.920 They've got like eight steps for each strip. 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:21.000 They really, they really walk you through the steps there. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:22.920 I think I can handle this. 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:23.760 Thanks one of us. 00:20:23.760 --> 00:20:25.760 I ended up picking the side. 00:20:25.760 --> 00:20:27.640 It should be noted that there's not actually 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:28.560 that much pressure on you 00:20:28.560 --> 00:20:31.740 because we are going to take it apart again for sure 00:20:31.740 --> 00:20:33.580 to do our iMac Pro repair guide. 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.440 Which is what we were trying to do in the first place. 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:39.120 I'm offended at being in a video with foul language. 00:20:39.120 --> 00:20:41.760 It's so frustrating to me that Apple tries to create this 00:20:41.760 --> 00:20:44.040 like, you know, mystique around how difficult 00:20:44.040 --> 00:20:45.420 these machines are to repair. 00:20:45.420 --> 00:20:48.320 And the really frustrating thing is that it works. 00:20:48.320 --> 00:20:51.100 We had these comments from people who think 00:20:51.100 --> 00:20:53.840 that it's more than printed circuit boards, 00:20:53.840 --> 00:20:56.720 capacitors, wiring, and stickers. 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:59.520 I think like a lot of people have bought into the idea 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:01.120 that this is kind of a utopia. 00:21:01.120 --> 00:21:02.600 And in some ways it is, you know, 00:21:02.600 --> 00:21:03.520 the software is easier. 00:21:03.520 --> 00:21:04.360 It's easier to use. 00:21:04.360 --> 00:21:06.020 It didn't crash as much when Vista was out. 00:21:06.020 --> 00:21:06.960 It looks nice. 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:08.970 Did you put this on? 00:21:08.970 --> 00:21:14.610 Maybe kind of, sort of. 00:21:14.610 --> 00:21:16.470 Clearly I don't watch your videos. 00:21:16.470 --> 00:21:18.770 There are at least 1,000 MacBook Airs out there 00:21:18.770 --> 00:21:20.370 with the adhesive applied like that. 00:21:20.370 --> 00:21:24.640 Four and a half stars, baby. 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:26.240 Yeah, they think it's a utopia 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.480 so that if anything goes wrong, it has to be their fault. 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:30.700 Or it has to be your fault. 00:21:30.700 --> 00:21:32.540 It couldn't be that they just did something wrong. 00:21:32.540 --> 00:21:34.960 So people wind up denying their own experience 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:36.060 when they have a problem. 00:21:36.060 --> 00:21:37.560 Like I remember seeing this one thread 00:21:37.560 --> 00:21:40.100 in 2011 where so many people were saying, 00:21:40.100 --> 00:21:42.020 you're wrong, this machine doesn't run too hot. 00:21:42.020 --> 00:21:43.300 You must've been doing something wrong. 00:21:43.300 --> 00:21:44.320 You must've got dust in it. 00:21:44.320 --> 00:21:45.160 You got a defect. 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:46.720 You must've been running it too hard. 00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:48.700 Yeah, and ironically, on their own page, 00:21:48.700 --> 00:21:51.560 it says, you know, 70% faster at video editing 00:21:51.560 --> 00:21:52.520 than last year's model. 00:21:52.520 --> 00:21:56.040 And all you were trying to do is edit some video. 00:21:56.040 --> 00:21:57.580 Oh, I screwed it up. 00:21:57.580 --> 00:21:58.420 Oh, I really missed. 00:21:58.420 --> 00:21:59.260 That's what fingernails are for. 00:21:59.260 --> 00:22:00.260 No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. 00:22:00.260 --> 00:22:01.720 I got this, I got this. 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:03.380 No, no, you don't want it folded. 00:22:03.380 --> 00:22:05.420 You definitely don't want two layers of it. 00:22:05.420 --> 00:22:08.260 But if it's a little bit, ah, shoot. 00:22:08.420 --> 00:22:10.400 No, that's really bad, actually. 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:12.260 I gave you so much for your application 00:22:12.260 --> 00:22:15.100 of the first couple and then I screwed up the last one. 00:22:15.100 --> 00:22:17.180 Dang it, that's karma for you. 00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:19.700 Do you wanna do the ribbons and I'll hold the screen? 00:22:19.700 --> 00:22:21.440 Yeah, let's move it closer to the edge. 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.380 Yeah, let's actually do that. 00:22:23.380 --> 00:22:26.500 Now to pretend that we didn't forget to plug the microphone. 00:22:26.500 --> 00:22:27.720 For some reason, they use that connector 00:22:27.720 --> 00:22:29.200 for the webcam on the MacBook, 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.840 so I thought that that was a webcam as a part of the screen. 00:22:31.840 --> 00:22:33.260 By the way, for those watching at home, 00:22:33.260 --> 00:22:35.760 this is the smarter way to handle these recessed screws 00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:36.600 on the cooler. 00:22:36.600 --> 00:22:38.400 You just put them in the rubber grommet first. 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.310 Then screw them in. 00:22:41.310 --> 00:22:42.730 It was all going very smoothly. 00:22:42.730 --> 00:22:45.440 Yes, nothing is broken yet. 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:46.280 That we know. 00:22:46.280 --> 00:22:48.020 It's best if you have somebody hold the screen 00:22:48.020 --> 00:22:49.080 while you're plugging things in 00:22:49.080 --> 00:22:50.260 so that you don't drop the screen. 00:22:50.260 --> 00:22:51.740 Or there's always the chest method. 00:22:51.740 --> 00:22:54.100 Or use your chest because it's very easy to drop this. 00:22:54.100 --> 00:22:55.200 That's the manly way. 00:22:56.120 --> 00:22:57.400 Yeah, you have to have bigger pecs than me 00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:58.940 for it to really work very well. 00:22:58.940 --> 00:23:01.320 I have more man boobs than pecs myself. 00:23:01.320 --> 00:23:04.060 It's good to use your nails rather than 00:23:04.060 --> 00:23:06.280 on the edge of the connector over here. 00:23:06.280 --> 00:23:08.040 So you're gonna see it's kinda shaped like an L. 00:23:08.040 --> 00:23:10.620 And don't be afraid to just push it in on the edges. 00:23:10.620 --> 00:23:12.160 Don't try to push the whole thing in at once. 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:13.120 That's very difficult. 00:23:13.120 --> 00:23:14.640 And then you can plug in the screen, 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:15.860 connect it without breaking it. 00:23:15.860 --> 00:23:17.000 And we'll try not to drop anything 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.160 in the power supply this time. 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:20.200 Famous last words. 00:23:20.200 --> 00:23:21.040 Moment of truth. 00:23:21.040 --> 00:23:21.920 Come on, come on over here, Brandon. 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:23.640 I want people to know we're not faking anything. 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:26.110 There's no reenactments. 00:23:26.110 --> 00:23:27.390 So we got fan spin. 00:23:27.390 --> 00:23:28.950 Now do we get Apple logo? 00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:32.040 Hey! 00:23:32.040 --> 00:23:33.040 Apple logo! 00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:33.880 All right, that's a good sign. 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:34.720 We're done. 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:36.650 I was hoping you would do it with your right hand. 00:23:36.650 --> 00:23:38.390 That was a very anticlimactic. 00:23:38.390 --> 00:23:40.830 Well, I'm holding the screen with my good hand. 00:23:40.830 --> 00:23:41.670 That would be a good part four. 00:23:43.630 --> 00:23:45.170 Should we go like the Top Gun, 00:23:45.170 --> 00:23:46.390 the Top Gun style high five? 00:23:46.390 --> 00:23:48.510 Do you know the high five they do in Top Gun? 00:23:48.510 --> 00:23:50.130 Here, you gotta go over here. 00:23:50.130 --> 00:23:51.810 This is gonna end with the screen being dropped. 00:23:51.810 --> 00:23:53.620 Okay. 00:23:53.620 --> 00:23:54.650 Yeah! 00:23:57.430 --> 00:23:59.850 So I think that's pretty much it. 00:23:59.850 --> 00:24:03.350 A massive thank you to absolutely everyone 00:24:03.350 --> 00:24:05.010 who was involved in this. 00:24:05.010 --> 00:24:07.690 Thank you to Anthony for breaking our iMac Pro 00:24:07.690 --> 00:24:10.590 because otherwise we never would have really started 00:24:10.590 --> 00:24:13.190 this conversation about right to repair 00:24:13.190 --> 00:24:14.470 and Apple's policies here. 00:24:14.470 --> 00:24:15.930 We would have had no way of knowing 00:24:15.930 --> 00:24:17.670 that it was gonna be so difficult 00:24:17.670 --> 00:24:20.770 to repair a professional grade machine. 00:24:20.770 --> 00:24:23.590 Thanks to our community who really stepped up 00:24:23.590 --> 00:24:25.850 and helped us out getting this thing fixed 00:24:25.850 --> 00:24:27.970 for a reasonable price. 00:24:27.970 --> 00:24:30.650 Well, if we can throw our total bill of materials up here 00:24:30.650 --> 00:24:32.650 compared to what Apple would have charged us, 00:24:32.650 --> 00:24:33.970 we can do that, right? 00:24:33.970 --> 00:24:36.250 Huge thanks to Louis Rossman for showing up 00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:40.350 and helping me reassemble the iMac Pro here. 00:24:40.350 --> 00:24:41.410 It was a lot of fun. 00:24:41.410 --> 00:24:42.930 Thanks to iFixit, of course, 00:24:42.930 --> 00:24:43.830 for providing us with the adhesive strip. 00:24:43.830 --> 00:24:44.330 Thanks to iFixit, of course, for providing us with the adhesive strip. 00:24:44.330 --> 00:24:44.830 Thanks to iFixit, of course, for providing us with the adhesive strip. 00:24:44.830 --> 00:24:45.830 And the tools we need, 00:24:45.830 --> 00:24:48.570 as well as their awesome online guides 00:24:48.570 --> 00:24:51.430 for disassembly and 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