1 00:00:00,340 --> 00:00:07,440 It's finally here. We have all the pieces we need to put together our iMac Pro 2 00:00:07,540 --> 00:00:11,060 We've got a new iMac Pro 5k display 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:19,040 We've got a new logic board complete with CPU and RAM that are by the way socketed and not soldered on so 4 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:24,480 Yeah, we covered that in part two and we have the one and only Lewis Rossman 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,920 from Rossman Group 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,080 Time to learn how to put together an iMac and as I say, you should never learn on your own stuff 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:38,100 Always learn on somebody else's. Wait, no, you're supposed to learn on your own. Is that how this goes? Who, like me, has never actually 8 00:00:38,980 --> 00:00:43,100 assembled an iMac Pro, so let's have some fun today, shall we? 9 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:51,340 Sponsored of course by Mr. Rossman's favorite tool company, iFixit. They're screwdrivers of a very nice personality 10 00:00:51,340 --> 00:00:56,560 iFixit is your one-stop shop for repair tools and guides for pretty much everything under the sun 11 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,440 You can check out the link 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:11,640 To their pro-tech toolkit in the video description. So Anthony's laid everything out for us pretty much. We've got our 13 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,060 Fan component of the thermal solution. We've got all the picks and adhesive strips and everything that we should need 14 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:23,220 We've got their little prop up thing for the doodad here that goes in there 15 00:01:23,220 --> 00:01:28,260 And then of course, is this your first time seeing an iMac Pro logic board in person? 16 00:01:28,260 --> 00:01:35,160 This is my first time. So why don't you kind of walk us through some of the things that are more and or less obvious? 17 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,440 I mean, I actually have one right off the bat here 18 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Somebody's getting fired because the RAM is not soldered to the board. For some reason Apple's gone with this weirdo 19 00:01:42,780 --> 00:01:46,040 configuration with five DRAM chips per side 20 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,240 So normally you would have four or eight and the the fifth one is for ECC 21 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:54,480 That's error checking and that's a feature of the Xeon W processor that's in there 22 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,480 But why wouldn't they just put all of them on the one side? 23 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Why would they do a dual sided DIMM for this? Maybe to get more on a single DIMM. These are just 8 gig DIMMs 24 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Maybe they planned on it, but then that person got fired 25 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,540 Because may using too much memory would result in a not not efficient power usage. Wait, no 26 00:02:09,540 --> 00:02:10,680 That was the excuse they used in the retina 27 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,380 I mean a lot of people have asked like why they might have gone with 28 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,980 socketed memory rather than soldering the memory on because we all know that Apple's sort of MO here is 29 00:02:20,740 --> 00:02:27,980 Making as few components on the board upgradeable by the end-user. And the CPU is socketed too. That's another person that's gonna get fired 30 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:29,980 So I figured it out 31 00:02:29,980 --> 00:02:35,060 Someone at Apple was just like you know what if we want to deliver enough 32 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:41,880 Configurations without spending a bunch of money for the sole purpose of making things less upgradeable for the user 33 00:02:42,620 --> 00:02:44,620 sockets make a lot of sense 34 00:02:44,620 --> 00:02:49,660 More than idea Apple and if the processor fails you don't have to buy a new board and what's the cost of that board? 35 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:51,040 Except that you do 36 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:57,140 You do know what Apple only sells the logic board as a complete unit 37 00:02:57,140 --> 00:03:01,200 But with the CPU and the RAM already in it 38 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,540 What if you only have a bad CPU because even though they're socketed 39 00:03:04,540 --> 00:03:10,080 They still treat it like a single unit. So what happens if you have a bad RAM stick? Okay that one 40 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,620 I don't know but I know that when we had to buy the new logic board 41 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:20,100 We had to send back our CPU and RAM if we wanted to qualify for replacement pricing, which there's still a chance 42 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:24,920 I heard from our contact who got us this so there's still a chance we can get replacement pricing on it 43 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:28,560 So you have to send back everything and if you don't send back everything you don't get replacement pricing 44 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,640 But you get charged twice the actual price of it, which is already four times the price that it should cost in any other computer 45 00:03:32,820 --> 00:03:34,020 Yes, well 46 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:35,510 Go Apple 47 00:03:35,510 --> 00:03:38,390 So those are the standard SSDs you could buy on Newegg, right? 48 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:40,870 I mean in their defense their SSDs do perform pretty well 49 00:03:40,870 --> 00:03:43,710 So I'll give them that but a lot of people asked us 50 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:47,170 Well, why were you guys opening up an iMac Pro in the first place? 51 00:03:47,170 --> 00:03:48,270 It's not meant to be opened 52 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:54,430 The reason we were opening it was because we wanted to shed some light on the cooling solution that Apple is using for up 53 00:03:54,430 --> 00:03:58,650 to an 18 core processor and a vega 64 GPU 54 00:03:58,650 --> 00:04:04,270 Just looking at it tells us everything we need to know about how much this sucker is gonna thermal 55 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:07,970 throttle and in order for us to take our thermal throttling results and 56 00:04:08,950 --> 00:04:14,150 Sanity check them. This is why we were opening it because we're a review channel 57 00:04:14,150 --> 00:04:18,110 And we know that opening up the product is not something that everyone's gonna do 58 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:23,930 But this is a pro product in a professional environment where you you might actually have 59 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:30,390 technicians on staff to help people through both software and hardware issues it is my 60 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:33,650 expectation that you would be able to user service 61 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:38,790 A professional machine and you would be able to get the parts that you need. Is that an unreasonable thing? 62 00:04:38,790 --> 00:04:43,170 I think it's very unreasonable that you expect that you should be able to clean the dust out of it three years from now and it's 63 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:48,750 Filled with junk and runs 30 Celsius hotter when they say that you're not supposed to open it. It's not designed to be open 64 00:04:48,750 --> 00:04:52,590 I can understand that to an extent but wouldn't you want to open it so that you can clean it three years from now? 65 00:04:52,590 --> 00:04:54,130 There's so many of these old machines 66 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:57,590 They wind up dying when the graphics chips start running 20 and 30 Celsius hotter 67 00:04:57,590 --> 00:05:03,630 Yeah, and this design if you blow compressed air in there, it's just going to wind up blowing the dust around the machine 68 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:04,150 Yeah, no 69 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:06,990 Here here what we can do is we can kind of we can kind of line this up 70 00:05:06,990 --> 00:05:09,210 And this is something that's very difficult to do if you don't actually 71 00:05:09,490 --> 00:05:11,010 Open it up and have a look at it 72 00:05:11,010 --> 00:05:15,150 So if you were to blow dust or if you were to blow air through through this 73 00:05:15,610 --> 00:05:20,330 Very thoughtfully designed baffle here so that you don't get as much noise from the fan 74 00:05:20,330 --> 00:05:23,190 I guess which is neat if you open any of these that are more than three years old 75 00:05:23,190 --> 00:05:27,090 I would be surprised if the fan even spins just based on how much dust are in here after a few years 76 00:05:27,090 --> 00:05:30,710 So you would want to open it just to be able to blow it out and you can't do that in this machine 77 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:34,110 So it makes sense that somebody would want to open this not now than a few years from now 78 00:05:34,150 --> 00:05:37,690 If they want it to last at least and Apple wanted to last right, right? 79 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:44,610 Is there anything about this main board that should that makes it special it does have a GPU built right into it? 80 00:05:44,610 --> 00:05:48,790 Which is either a feature or a drawback depending on how you look at it. It's a good board 81 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:53,270 It has to some extent it has four Thunderbolt ports for USB ports ether and 10 gig LAN 82 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:58,590 It does use the same USB-C muxing that the touch bars did and I remember with the touch bars when I tried to use 83 00:05:58,590 --> 00:06:03,890 A third-party dongle rather than the original Apple dongle that didn't work and the original Apple dongle was like 80 bucks 84 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:07,870 I mean this a quantia chipset it to buy a card with this on it is about a hundred bucks 85 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:12,650 I can understand how if it comes with the graphics card and it's specifically custom designed for this machine 86 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:17,170 Like I could see how this board would cost. Yeah, like I would say this is a solid eight hundred nine hundred dollar board 87 00:06:17,170 --> 00:06:19,690 Okay, cool, but not four thousand dollars 88 00:06:19,690 --> 00:06:25,630 What that's how much the non-replacement pricing is if you break the the warranty void if removed seals on it 89 00:06:25,630 --> 00:06:31,090 And when we priced out the iMac Pro we actually found that compared to a an apples to apples 90 00:06:32,870 --> 00:06:34,070 PC with a Xeon 91 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:39,470 W like trying to get feature and performance parity it was actually pretty darn similar 92 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:46,670 So it's only when you want to try to get a replacement part and you don't have the untouched by non authorized 93 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:48,690 technicians like yourself 94 00:06:48,690 --> 00:06:52,310 Pricing that you really get owned rammed. Yeah 95 00:06:52,310 --> 00:06:55,550 I'm sure that's really the unit more PG PG. Yeah 96 00:06:56,790 --> 00:07:02,390 I didn't think I'd bring this guy on and he'd be the one toning my language down the entire machine 97 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:03,990 It's not necessarily that much of a ripoff 98 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:08,610 Considering the form factor that you get in it and when you do actually price it with a display that's for a PC 99 00:07:08,610 --> 00:07:11,250 That would be equal. It actually isn't the terrible deal spec wise 100 00:07:11,250 --> 00:07:15,750 It's just if you ever have anything go wrong with it ever then you're really screwed 101 00:07:15,750 --> 00:07:20,750 I do think that Apple could do more to design things not to fail 102 00:07:20,750 --> 00:07:24,230 And when you look at this cooling solution the inability to clean out the dust 103 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:31,530 We look at the 500 watt power supply like this to me is common-sense stuff when I initially set out to build a computer 104 00:07:31,530 --> 00:07:33,530 There's not a whole friggin lot to it, right? 105 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:40,110 It's like putting together Lego you got your form factor, which Apple does a great job of you got your acoustics 106 00:07:40,110 --> 00:07:46,710 And you got your thermals that's step one of building a computer make sure that it's not gonna overheat 107 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:51,270 And it's not gonna be super loud. Oh and don't use a crappy power supply so that it doesn't blow up in two years 108 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:55,650 I'm just surprised by the heatsink because I know that in many of their machines they focus on it being quiet 109 00:07:55,650 --> 00:07:57,990 Which is a good thing they want a machine to not make noise 110 00:07:57,990 --> 00:08:02,310 But if you want it to not make noise you would want a larger heatsink not a smaller one and what they've done with 111 00:08:02,310 --> 00:08:03,030 a lot of the newer machines 112 00:08:03,030 --> 00:08:03,910 They took the 113 00:08:03,910 --> 00:08:08,730 2013-14 design, which is actually a really nice design except the fan just doesn't turn on for another 20 C 114 00:08:08,830 --> 00:08:13,530 Okay, so should we get started then they get to figure out that I don't know how it goes together 115 00:08:13,530 --> 00:08:18,930 Yeah, I know now now now neither of us looks like I buy looks like an expert. Yeah, I know so I've done 116 00:08:18,930 --> 00:08:20,730 I've done an iMac 117 00:08:20,730 --> 00:08:26,670 5k, but I've never done an iMac Pro like in terms of disassembly and reassembly. Have you done an iMac 5k? No 118 00:08:26,670 --> 00:08:30,010 Oh really last time I reassembled an iMac was 2012 or 13 119 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:33,250 Most of what we do is liquid damage repairs, but you got to be pretty special too 120 00:08:33,910 --> 00:08:37,670 You don't want to spill water on here. Yeah, like water typically goes down not sideways 121 00:08:37,690 --> 00:08:41,130 You'd have to be drinking water over a bare board sitting on a table 122 00:08:41,130 --> 00:08:44,130 Yeah, you have to just like fountain it into your iMac and hope it falls through the screen 123 00:08:44,130 --> 00:08:46,130 Or someone has to say something really funny 124 00:08:46,130 --> 00:08:50,510 The one thing that sucks with this form factor at least for the older ones is that if you want to replace the hard drive 125 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:54,270 You have to remove the screen to get to the drive and the screen cable is short 126 00:08:54,270 --> 00:08:58,290 So when people take the screen out, they don't realize that they have to hold the screen on their chest 127 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:03,030 They don't do that. They just take the screen out like this. They wind up ripping the screen connector right off the board 128 00:09:03,030 --> 00:09:03,450 Okay 129 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:03,850 So 130 00:09:03,850 --> 00:09:07,930 Do we want to put this no, you know, I mean no just up it should be okay, right? 131 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:12,750 Well, hold on a second cuz we've got we've got brackets in here called like Wi-Fi and stuff 132 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:15,670 So I want to make sure that we're that's this has Ethernet though, right? 133 00:09:15,670 --> 00:09:19,630 That's one thing that I have to say I love about Apple. They're wireless 134 00:09:20,490 --> 00:09:25,770 It's just they're the only ones that I'm aware of that do a three by three by in 135 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:30,390 In a notebook because everyone else is using the mini PCIe standard 136 00:09:30,390 --> 00:09:34,490 Yeah, that is just not physically large enough to do a three by so this looks like 137 00:09:34,710 --> 00:09:38,630 Some kind of sense for the power supply, I guess. Okay, so hold on 138 00:09:38,630 --> 00:09:44,330 We've probably got to got to put this put this lead in. Oh, okay. That one comes around as well. Hmm. Okay 139 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:54,910 This guy's blocking you hold on hold on and oh that's lifting up some kind of cover that probably serves some kind of purpose here 140 00:09:54,910 --> 00:09:59,810 Hold on. Okay, it covers coils. Yeah covers things that you shouldn't touch I guess 141 00:09:59,810 --> 00:10:03,550 Let me see if I can kind of guide you in here. Stay out cables 142 00:10:03,550 --> 00:10:04,550 You really? 143 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:09,650 Go ham like it's funny cuz I get a lot of flack for just kind of like going for it with stuff 144 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:13,310 Oh, yeah, but as far as we know this board works, so please do be very careful 145 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,320 No pressure 146 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,420 Why did I fly him in from New York to do this for me? 147 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:26,920 So I could learn there we go. Now. We're now we're getting in there. There we go. Let a bing. Okay. All right 148 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,200 It's like being a dentist. It's like say 149 00:10:30,060 --> 00:10:32,060 Yes 150 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:35,180 Yeah, okay, do we want to screw it in first? 151 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:38,660 Maybe or no, we want to see if it works before you screw it in 152 00:10:38,660 --> 00:10:43,380 It's bad luck to screw it in before you see if it works. So my thing is I don't close the panel first 153 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,040 But I I'm willing to screw in a board 154 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,080 I'll put in at least a couple screws because I don't like I don't like motherboards sliding around on standoffs 155 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Oh, yeah, can I put in two screws? Okay? 156 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:59,040 stressing out here 157 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:07,440 one thing about working on a PC like this that legitimately should require certification and legitimately is dangerous for the average person 158 00:11:07,820 --> 00:11:13,880 Is the fact that it has exposed it on the capacitors on their power supplies? No, there's no 159 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,780 No, no, there's nothing that goes on here. It's just like this. That is extremely dangerous. You could die 160 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:24,340 This this is nothing. This is no tongue-in-cheek. Haha Apple or anything like that 161 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:30,840 Just I've never actually seen another finished goods product like this with an exposed power supply 162 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:37,620 Like that and as far as I can tell the only reason they've done it is so that they can use the cooler unit here 163 00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:44,740 To cool the power supply without it having its own fan, which would because of the thin form factor be quite small and therefore whiny 164 00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:49,940 I'm surprised they didn't put at least some sort of cage over it that happened to be grounded so that if somebody was going into 165 00:11:49,940 --> 00:11:50,780 Let's say clean their fan 166 00:11:50,780 --> 00:11:53,580 They don't do that because this is one of those things where I like to joke in my videos 167 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:58,560 But I would not want to touch that and there is a good chance of somebody opening this and actually hurting themselves 168 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:05,040 Even if it's unplugged. Yeah, because those two capacitors will stay charged for a long time after long time sometimes months or even years 169 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,080 You don't mess around with that stuff 170 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,080 now actually on the subject of 171 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,140 These things being exposed a lot of people have asked us 172 00:12:12,140 --> 00:12:17,340 What exactly happened because the way that we showed our iMac Pro failure 173 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:24,120 was in the form of like a reenactment because obviously the camera wasn't rolling while we while we dropped the display 174 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:28,940 Yeah, those sparks those after effects drawn sparks very well 175 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:35,420 I know we deceived everyone I believed in you so what actually happened was 176 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,560 when 177 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:41,780 Anthony was removing the display he bridged something in here and it caused 178 00:12:41,780 --> 00:12:47,440 a spark which startled him and caused him to drop the display that was what 179 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,920 actually happened and because the spark was on the motherboard that's why from 180 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:57,980 the very beginning we have deceived no one we knew we definitely had a broken 181 00:12:57,980 --> 00:13:03,300 display but we knew we also possibly had a dead motherboard and therefore by 182 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:06,880 extension a dead power supply actually the spark was off the power supply 183 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,040 wasn't it so you know it's funny a shield would have prevented all of this 184 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,960 the shield would have prevented how interesting so sorry the spark on the 185 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,740 power supply so you know when you short out a power supply you can kind of kill 186 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:21,600 almost anything downstream and because on this particular machine the power for 187 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,140 everything runs through the motherboard it was probably gonna burn something on 188 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:27,840 the motherboard before it carried through to something else so that was 189 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,200 where our conclusion came from we knew we definitely had a dead screen because 190 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,300 it was cracked we knew that we potentially 191 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:36,540 had a dead power supply and a dead motherboard but that our other 192 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:43,260 components probably worked with that said I've seen a lot of shorts occur in 193 00:13:43,260 --> 00:13:47,220 my day that have not resulted in dead hardware or I've seen them partially 194 00:13:47,220 --> 00:13:51,840 fail like oh well now that USB port doesn't work anymore yeah if you send 12 195 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,440 volts to the 5 volt rail your machines dead if you send 12 volts to ground you 196 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,020 just saw a big spark but it's nothing that's gonna actually kill it wow you 197 00:13:59,020 --> 00:14:02,940 know those viewers are right this is really complicated 198 00:14:03,300 --> 00:14:07,020 because I mean the whole thing like oh these are it's like a supercar you saw 199 00:14:07,020 --> 00:14:10,760 those comments right it's not designed to be you know taken apart and put 200 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,680 together and I'm kind of like well then how does Apple you know take it apart 201 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:18,720 and put it together because they can they just wouldn't or can they so here's 202 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,780 another thing that would definitely require training the screws for the 203 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:28,720 power supply and for just generally mounting the motherboard are threaded 204 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,920 the same as far as I can tell but they should not be confused because the power supply was not working 205 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,980 The ones have these washers on them 206 00:14:35,980 --> 00:14:37,100 and they're actually designed. 207 00:14:37,100 --> 00:14:38,320 We were talking about this off camera. 208 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,560 How does the power supply connect to the motherboard? 209 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,660 It's actually through screw connections here. 210 00:14:44,660 --> 00:14:49,340 So these ones with the little kind of mark next to them 211 00:14:49,340 --> 00:14:51,480 that looks like there's a little oval shaped mark. 212 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,520 Those ones use the silver screws 213 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,640 and then everything else uses the black ones. 214 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,000 That is a bit of a trick 215 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,600 and you would need to be very careful 216 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,380 with something like that. 217 00:15:02,380 --> 00:15:03,520 Oh, not that one. 218 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,040 These two. 219 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,220 That moment when you bring in 220 00:15:06,220 --> 00:15:09,040 like a celebrity repair technician 221 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,400 and it turns out maybe you should have gotten 222 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,260 a real repair technician, you know? 223 00:15:12,260 --> 00:15:13,100 Yeah. 224 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:14,500 In all seriousness though, 225 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:15,860 this is not very difficult, is it? 226 00:15:15,860 --> 00:15:17,660 This takes about five minutes. 227 00:15:17,660 --> 00:15:20,960 Should an Apple authorized service provider, 228 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,040 like is there any justifiable reason 229 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,820 why they shouldn't be able to just stock replacement parts 230 00:15:25,820 --> 00:15:27,700 for an operation like this 231 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:30,240 and be able to turn a board swap around 232 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,660 for a customer in a day? 233 00:15:31,660 --> 00:15:33,620 The reason that they don't want them to have parts in stock 234 00:15:33,620 --> 00:15:34,640 is because they're afraid 235 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,020 of them ending up in a mess. 236 00:15:35,020 --> 00:15:35,880 They're afraid of them ending up on the open market 237 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,240 or on eBay or being resold. 238 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,380 Like that data recovery tool that I had bought 239 00:15:39,380 --> 00:15:40,700 for the new Touch Bar MacBooks, 240 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:43,200 I got it from some likely authorized service center 241 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,060 that was selling all of them on the side. 242 00:15:45,060 --> 00:15:47,800 The downside of it is that if the parts are not stocked, 243 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 the customer has to wait one to three weeks to get it in. 244 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:51,480 If you tell somebody it's gonna take longer 245 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,640 than two to five days, they just walk out of the store. 246 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,400 This is an entirely different story. 247 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Imagine for a second that I'm not some YouTuber, 248 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,080 also a celebrity technician, you know? 249 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,780 Imagine that I bought this $5,000 machine 250 00:16:03,780 --> 00:16:05,020 so that I could, uh, 251 00:16:05,020 --> 00:16:07,940 run my, you know, home graphic design business. 252 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:09,600 Imagine that someone told me 253 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,240 this is gonna cost more to repair 254 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,920 than I initially spent on it. 255 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,200 How does that make any sense? 256 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,580 The thing that made me most furious 257 00:16:17,580 --> 00:16:21,260 was the people acting like that argument made any sense. 258 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:23,800 That a machine could be a total write-off 259 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,780 when not every component of it was dead. 260 00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:29,120 Yeah, no broadcast facility is gonna allow that. 261 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,580 Any sort of recording studio, 262 00:16:30,580 --> 00:16:32,460 any sort of video or news editing room, 263 00:16:32,460 --> 00:16:34,900 they expect that there be virtually no downtime. 264 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:36,420 They're gonna have a machine to swap in a place 265 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:38,020 and they expect to be able to repair this 266 00:16:38,020 --> 00:16:39,340 because they're using it for real work. 267 00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:41,740 Not to mention for a reasonable price. 268 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:45,280 I expect when I buy a replacement piece of something, 269 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,100 whether it's a car or a vacuum cleaner, 270 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:51,300 that if I were to buy every piece of it 271 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:53,480 and assemble it myself, 272 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,200 it should cost a little bit more. 273 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,360 But I don't expect that if I were to buy all the pieces 274 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,480 as replacement parts, 275 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,920 that the machine would cost literally double, 276 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,740 even if I'm putting it together myself. 277 00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:04,880 That doesn't make any sense. 278 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,700 Anyone making the argument 279 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:09,720 that Apple can't sell it to me for cheaper 280 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,000 because they gotta make money their business 281 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,640 is clearly not doing the math. 282 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,920 Because if Apple couldn't afford to sell me this board 283 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,880 for around $1,000, 284 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,940 then they couldn't afford to build this computer. 285 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,720 I think I doofed on this one. 286 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,260 So the Wi-Fi thing is also a little bit tricky. 287 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:26,940 You gotta slide it into four little notches 288 00:17:26,940 --> 00:17:28,000 on this shield right here. 289 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,680 SD card area thing. 290 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,920 The card reader is over here somewhere. 291 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,980 So it's over here somewhere. 292 00:17:32,980 --> 00:17:34,880 Oh, it's to hold that doodad in. 293 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,900 I've done worse. 294 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:37,900 Okay, let's not turn this into a competition 295 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,900 of which of us has done worse 296 00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:41,340 because that's not gonna be, 297 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:42,180 that's not- 298 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:43,760 Setting the Thunderbolt circuit on fire. 299 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,000 We were talking about credibility earlier, you know? 300 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,380 That's not gonna help either of us. 301 00:17:47,380 --> 00:17:50,140 The thing is sometimes I'll read out the letter 302 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:52,060 that somebody sent in with their machine. 303 00:17:52,060 --> 00:17:54,560 So they'll know, okay, he's working on mine. 304 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,520 And then when I'm streaming it, 305 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,660 they'll see like me saying, 306 00:17:56,660 --> 00:17:58,800 okay, this is just for Thunderbolt, but screw this. 307 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,340 I'll just take this out and I'll go vink, vink, vink. 308 00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:02,700 And then he'll get a call later saying, 309 00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:03,880 excuse me, was that my machine 310 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,400 that he just ripped the Thunderbolt USB 311 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:06,460 and Wi-Fi circuitry off? 312 00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:07,820 And then I'll have to explain to him. 313 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:09,000 No, he's joking. 314 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,040 He's gonna put that back when he gets it to turn on. 315 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,680 And then he'll like walk over to me and say, 316 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,840 did you stream knocking all that stuff off the box? 317 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,840 You watched these videos before you sent it here. 318 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:20,880 You must've been expecting, 319 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:21,960 like you know what you're getting. 320 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,000 It's not like it's false advertising. 321 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,560 See, this is like me and my wife. 322 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,120 Like I'll make some sort of like really offensive 323 00:18:28,120 --> 00:18:29,000 off color joke. 324 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,520 And I'm just like, hon, I mean, 325 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,340 we were dating for six or seven years 326 00:18:33,340 --> 00:18:34,320 before we got married. 327 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:35,160 You knew what you were buying. 328 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,860 You knew, yeah, that's what I am. 329 00:18:37,860 --> 00:18:39,400 But yeah, when people watch the live streams 330 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:40,500 of their stuff getting fixed, 331 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:42,260 I can only imagine how stressful that is 332 00:18:42,260 --> 00:18:44,300 because of the show that I put on for it. 333 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:47,120 What you're saying, everything you see on TV 334 00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:50,920 is not, you know, an accurate reflection of real life. 335 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,220 You put on a show. 336 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:53,540 No way. 337 00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:56,560 I think the real takeaway here is that if we can handle this 338 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Apple's store probably could have handled this. 339 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,940 All right, let's see if we get fan spin. 340 00:19:00,940 --> 00:19:02,260 It may not actually do that. 341 00:19:02,260 --> 00:19:03,540 Now there's a lot of, 342 00:19:03,540 --> 00:19:05,800 there's a lot of stuff wired into the display, 343 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,380 not just DisplayPort. 344 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:08,220 Fan spin. 345 00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:09,060 Oh, we did. 346 00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:09,990 We're done. 347 00:19:09,990 --> 00:19:11,070 Yeah, so I can go home. 348 00:19:12,940 --> 00:19:14,100 We have to put the panel back on. 349 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:15,480 That's the whole point. 350 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,400 Fan spin. 351 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,840 That's what was broken. 352 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,580 Fan spin. 353 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:24,520 So this is the one actually like special thing that you need. 354 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,720 And it's a part that iFixit sells. 355 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,280 If you were to take apart and put back together an iMac Pro, 356 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000 other than that, you just need like a screwdriver, 357 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,440 a couple of Torx bits. 358 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,820 Nothing really special. 359 00:19:35,820 --> 00:19:40,740 Like you'd be surprised how many repairs you only really need 360 00:19:40,740 --> 00:19:42,780 a pretty basic tool kit for. 361 00:19:42,780 --> 00:19:44,500 This is the hardest part of this repair actually, 362 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:46,120 is finding the proper adhesive. 363 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:48,700 And this goes back almost 10 years with this stuff is that 364 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:50,480 if you can open it up, you can, 365 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,540 it's putting it back together that's difficult. 366 00:19:52,540 --> 00:19:53,380 Because if you try to, 367 00:19:53,380 --> 00:19:55,200 if you just go to Home Depot and try to find adhesive 368 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,520 that fits, it's just going to fall right out. 369 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Oh, they sent two just thinking they knew who they were. 370 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,620 iFixit does sell really good adhesive tool kits 371 00:20:01,620 --> 00:20:02,720 for these machines I'll say. 372 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Well, no, I was saying they sent two. 373 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,400 They clearly knew who they were dealing with. 374 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,240 Oh yeah. 375 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,760 They expected me to screw it up once. 376 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,240 We brought up the guide for putting on the strips. 377 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,360 You really don't want to screw this up 378 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:13,680 because they're one-time use. 379 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,740 Oh, holy crap. 380 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:17,920 They've got like eight steps for each strip. 381 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,000 They really, they really walk you through the steps there. 382 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,920 I think I can handle this. 383 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Thanks one of us. 384 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,760 I ended up picking the side. 385 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,640 It should be noted that there's not actually 386 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,560 that much pressure on you 387 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,740 because we are going to take it apart again for sure 388 00:20:31,740 --> 00:20:33,580 to do our iMac Pro repair guide. 389 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,440 Which is what we were trying to do in the first place. 390 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,120 I'm offended at being in a video with foul language. 391 00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:41,760 It's so frustrating to me that Apple tries to create this 392 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,040 like, you know, mystique around how difficult 393 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,420 these machines are to repair. 394 00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:48,320 And the really frustrating thing is that it works. 395 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,100 We had these comments from people who think 396 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:53,840 that it's more than printed circuit boards, 397 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,720 capacitors, wiring, and stickers. 398 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,520 I think like a lot of people have bought into the idea 399 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,120 that this is kind of a utopia. 400 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,600 And in some ways it is, you know, 401 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,520 the software is easier. 402 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:04,360 It's easier to use. 403 00:21:04,360 --> 00:21:06,020 It didn't crash as much when Vista was out. 404 00:21:06,020 --> 00:21:06,960 It looks nice. 405 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,970 Did you put this on? 406 00:21:08,970 --> 00:21:14,610 Maybe kind of, sort of. 407 00:21:14,610 --> 00:21:16,470 Clearly I don't watch your videos. 408 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:18,770 There are at least 1,000 MacBook Airs out there 409 00:21:18,770 --> 00:21:20,370 with the adhesive applied like that. 410 00:21:20,370 --> 00:21:24,640 Four and a half stars, baby. 411 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,240 Yeah, they think it's a utopia 412 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,480 so that if anything goes wrong, it has to be their fault. 413 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,700 Or it has to be your fault. 414 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,540 It couldn't be that they just did something wrong. 415 00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:34,960 So people wind up denying their own experience 416 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,060 when they have a problem. 417 00:21:36,060 --> 00:21:37,560 Like I remember seeing this one thread 418 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,100 in 2011 where so many people were saying, 419 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,020 you're wrong, this machine doesn't run too hot. 420 00:21:42,020 --> 00:21:43,300 You must've been doing something wrong. 421 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,320 You must've got dust in it. 422 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,160 You got a defect. 423 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,720 You must've been running it too hard. 424 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,700 Yeah, and ironically, on their own page, 425 00:21:48,700 --> 00:21:51,560 it says, you know, 70% faster at video editing 426 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,520 than last year's model. 427 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,040 And all you were trying to do is edit some video. 428 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,580 Oh, I screwed it up. 429 00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:58,420 Oh, I really missed. 430 00:21:58,420 --> 00:21:59,260 That's what fingernails are for. 431 00:21:59,260 --> 00:22:00,260 No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on. 432 00:22:00,260 --> 00:22:01,720 I got this, I got this. 433 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,380 No, no, you don't want it folded. 434 00:22:03,380 --> 00:22:05,420 You definitely don't want two layers of it. 435 00:22:05,420 --> 00:22:08,260 But if it's a little bit, ah, shoot. 436 00:22:08,420 --> 00:22:10,400 No, that's really bad, actually. 437 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,260 I gave you so much for your application 438 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:15,100 of the first couple and then I screwed up the last one. 439 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,180 Dang it, that's karma for you. 440 00:22:17,180 --> 00:22:19,700 Do you wanna do the ribbons and I'll hold the screen? 441 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:21,440 Yeah, let's move it closer to the edge. 442 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,380 Yeah, let's actually do that. 443 00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:26,500 Now to pretend that we didn't forget to plug the microphone. 444 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:27,720 For some reason, they use that connector 445 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,200 for the webcam on the MacBook, 446 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840 so I thought that that was a webcam as a part of the screen. 447 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,260 By the way, for those watching at home, 448 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:35,760 this is the smarter way to handle these recessed screws 449 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,600 on the cooler. 450 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,400 You just put them in the rubber grommet first. 451 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,310 Then screw them in. 452 00:22:41,310 --> 00:22:42,730 It was all going very smoothly. 453 00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:45,440 Yes, nothing is broken yet. 454 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,280 That we know. 455 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,020 It's best if you have somebody hold the screen 456 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:49,080 while you're plugging things in 457 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,260 so that you don't drop the screen. 458 00:22:50,260 --> 00:22:51,740 Or there's always the chest method. 459 00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:54,100 Or use your chest because it's very easy to drop this. 460 00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,200 That's the manly way. 461 00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:57,400 Yeah, you have to have bigger pecs than me 462 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,940 for it to really work very well. 463 00:22:58,940 --> 00:23:01,320 I have more man boobs than pecs myself. 464 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,060 It's good to use your nails rather than 465 00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:06,280 on the edge of the connector over here. 466 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,040 So you're gonna see it's kinda shaped like an L. 467 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,620 And don't be afraid to just push it in on the edges. 468 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:12,160 Don't try to push the whole thing in at once. 469 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,120 That's very difficult. 470 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:14,640 And then you can plug in the screen, 471 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,860 connect it without breaking it. 472 00:23:15,860 --> 00:23:17,000 And we'll try not to drop anything 473 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,160 in the power supply this time. 474 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,200 Famous last words. 475 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Moment of truth. 476 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,920 Come on, come on over here, Brandon. 477 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,640 I want people to know we're not faking anything. 478 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,110 There's no reenactments. 479 00:23:26,110 --> 00:23:27,390 So we got fan spin. 480 00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:28,950 Now do we get Apple logo? 481 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,040 Hey! 482 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,040 Apple logo! 483 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,880 All right, that's a good sign. 484 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,720 We're done. 485 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,650 I was hoping you would do it with your right hand. 486 00:23:36,650 --> 00:23:38,390 That was a very anticlimactic. 487 00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:40,830 Well, I'm holding the screen with my good hand. 488 00:23:40,830 --> 00:23:41,670 That would be a good part four. 489 00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:45,170 Should we go like the Top Gun, 490 00:23:45,170 --> 00:23:46,390 the Top Gun style high five? 491 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:48,510 Do you know the high five they do in Top Gun? 492 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,130 Here, you gotta go over here. 493 00:23:50,130 --> 00:23:51,810 This is gonna end with the screen being dropped. 494 00:23:51,810 --> 00:23:53,620 Okay. 495 00:23:53,620 --> 00:23:54,650 Yeah! 496 00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:59,850 So I think that's pretty much it. 497 00:23:59,850 --> 00:24:03,350 A massive thank you to absolutely everyone 498 00:24:03,350 --> 00:24:05,010 who was involved in this. 499 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:07,690 Thank you to Anthony for breaking our iMac Pro 500 00:24:07,690 --> 00:24:10,590 because otherwise we never would have really started 501 00:24:10,590 --> 00:24:13,190 this conversation about right to repair 502 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:14,470 and Apple's policies here. 503 00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:15,930 We would have had no way of knowing 504 00:24:15,930 --> 00:24:17,670 that it was gonna be so difficult 505 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:20,770 to repair a professional grade machine. 506 00:24:20,770 --> 00:24:23,590 Thanks to our community who really stepped up 507 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:25,850 and helped us out getting this thing fixed 508 00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:27,970 for a reasonable price. 509 00:24:27,970 --> 00:24:30,650 Well, if we can throw our total bill of materials up here 510 00:24:30,650 --> 00:24:32,650 compared to what Apple would have charged us, 511 00:24:32,650 --> 00:24:33,970 we can do that, right? 512 00:24:33,970 --> 00:24:36,250 Huge thanks to Louis Rossman for showing up 513 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:40,350 and helping me reassemble the iMac Pro here. 514 00:24:40,350 --> 00:24:41,410 It was a lot of fun. 515 00:24:41,410 --> 00:24:42,930 Thanks to iFixit, of course, 516 00:24:42,930 --> 00:24:43,830 for providing us with the adhesive strip. 517 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:44,330 Thanks to iFixit, of course, for providing us with the adhesive strip. 518 00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:44,830 Thanks to iFixit, of course, for providing us with the adhesive strip. 519 00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:45,830 And the tools we need, 520 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:48,570 as well as their awesome online guides 521 00:24:48,570 --> 00:24:51,430 for disassembly and reassembly of your electronics. 522 00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:53,830 And of course, for sponsoring this third installment 523 00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:55,330 of this video series. 524 00:24:55,330 --> 00:24:58,430 And thank you to you guys for watching. 525 00:24:58,430 --> 00:24:59,750 Guys, if you disliked this video, 526 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:00,690 you can hit that button. 527 00:25:00,690 --> 00:25:09,460 But if you liked it, hit like, get subscribed, 528 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:10,380 and maybe consider checking out 529 00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:12,880 where to buy the stuff we 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about it, 545 00:25:43,070 --> 00:25:45,070 but you might run into issues 546 00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:46,770 if you were to actually try 547 00:25:46,770 --> 00:25:48,890 to just buy a random board on eBay.