WEBVTT 00:00:00.399 --> 00:00:06.759 that means we're on time yeah we're on time we're always on time we're never on 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:09.719 time who said we're not who said we I think this is literally the first time 00:00:07.879 --> 00:00:13.839 we're on time we're not even quite on time I'm still hello 00:00:11.960 --> 00:00:17.840 everyone yeah I guess you're not really on camera no I'm I'm not I'm not even 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:23.640 there and the party the show don't start till I walk in so yeah we we are we are 00:00:21.720 --> 00:00:28.320 not we're then where's your little keyboard I need to change the scene it's 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:33.520 over here here okay I don't remember which ones do 00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:38.280 oh you you're not even signed in on Twitter anymore what no no that's on 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:43.280 that's on uh no no no don't worry about it don't worry about it that's uh that's 00:00:39.760 --> 00:00:44.360 on uh Chrome see Firefox oh here you go 00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:50.960 hey hey Twitter no no go for Twitter questions 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:53.359 no Twitter questions yet lannis do you 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:56.719 still use Gunner glasses no I do not in fact I gave them to Slick 00:00:55.120 --> 00:01:01.920 today right um I sure did I sure did 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:11.960 no vcon 07 no it will not help okay so 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:17.119 who wants uh who wants slick to shave his horrible disgusting ugly mustach 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:20.920 can't see it see it there we go yeah who wants them to shave his disgusting 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:24.600 mustache on the live stream tonight it's for mber I think I'm supposed to keep it 00:01:22.759 --> 00:01:31.000 till midnight but if the if the consensus is yes then you know what it's 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:32.680 so freaking ugly that um I think that 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:38.320 everyone will forgive you if you actually just don't um don't keep that 00:01:35.720 --> 00:01:41.079 on anymore and besides I mean an interesting point that I would like to 00:01:39.759 --> 00:01:47.119 make I think it's interesting because it's my point is that um actually in 00:01:45.399 --> 00:01:51.680 Canada somewhere else in Canada it is midnight right now right it's not 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:54.920 midnight here no but I get a real kick out of that because on Twitter I have a 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:59.640 lot of people asking me what time it is in 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:00.960 Canada to which I have to sort of take 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:07.680 it deep breath by the way time zones yeah by the 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:10.720 way time zones Canada is like huge it's 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:12.720 like it's like bigger than some 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:15.680 continents actually is Canada bigger than austral I think so because Canada 00:02:14.440 --> 00:02:18.959 is the second largest country and Australia is also technically a country 00:02:17.480 --> 00:02:22.879 so I believe Canada is actually bigger than Australia um which should be 00:02:21.519 --> 00:02:28.599 basically all you need to know we have multiple time zones so the time like 00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:34.560 lots of them so the time zone I'm in is actually 4 and a half hours ahead of the 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:40.760 time zone that is on the very far East Coast or like off the east coast Canada 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:46.959 is like on islands and stuff yeah did you know that there's an island in the 00:02:42.760 --> 00:02:50.080 in Hudson's Bay um that is actually 00:02:46.959 --> 00:02:51.040 French land like France French really I 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:55.720 actually did not know that yeah there's like a small island there and like I 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:59.519 think they actually have French citizens like living there like France French 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:03.760 yeah do they have to cross the border to come into see that I don't actually know 00:03:01.920 --> 00:03:06.760 I I just remember this little factoid coming up when I was in like grade five 00:03:05.480 --> 00:03:09.840 in fact it's possible they're not even there anymore but 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:15.400 um cool yeah why don't we start with why don't we start with a little bit more a 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:21.040 little bit more Twitter questions let's have a look at some Twitter questions here switch to the thing haha you're not 00:03:18.480 --> 00:03:25.920 on camera anymore anyway it's the lius tech tips live stream I can be all like 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:30.680 Bam Bam n you're invited bam you're 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:34.680 uninvited where is slick from slick where are you 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:39.879 from Canada Canada yeah you can tell from his jacket all Canadians have a 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:39.879 jacket like this this actually his 00:03:40.239 --> 00:03:45.879 jacket I was trying to I was trying to the shoulders are tight I was 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:51.519 trying you know what sizes and 00:03:49.480 --> 00:03:54.439 everything uh we're wearing jackets cuz we're in his garage which is the new 00:03:52.879 --> 00:04:00.159 studio and it's kind of cool yeah it's pretty chilly in here it's just over 10° 00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:01.760 C so you know we're we're trying to keep 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:06.720 we're trying to keep baby noises out of the video we're trying to keep our noises away from the baby when he's 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:09.519 sleeping so we're in sort of the new studio space you know what we should do 00:04:08.480 --> 00:04:13.680 you know what we should do on the live stream right now A yes okay cuz it's 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:17.639 still early cuz the YouTube video is not up yet so lots of people haven't joined 00:04:15.200 --> 00:04:22.520 yet only the dedicated followers have joined so far okay I need you to go 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:27.040 operate the camera for a little bit we're going to let them we're going to 00:04:23.919 --> 00:04:28.840 let the viewers decide uh what we're 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:31.960 going to hang on the wall and where we're going to put it actually no we're 00:04:30.520 --> 00:04:37.360 not going to let them decide decide what to hang on the wall because I've already decided that but we're going to let them 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:41.039 decide where we're going to put it so I'm going to 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:47.680 find this which I want to put on the wall so this is a this is a 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:52.120 6870 68 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:54.199 yeah um Barts 6870 yeah so this is the 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:59.280 this is the video card that was in the first video I ever made that got over a 00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:04.120 million views so that was on the ncx tech tip Channel I did a video review of 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:05.919 it where I hooked up like three TVs and 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:11.639 uh I was running them in ifinity and it was like awesome and epic and so this 00:05:08.919 --> 00:05:17.800 should go on the wall of ridiculously epic stuff so I'd like you guys to 00:05:14.320 --> 00:05:20.759 vote two things number one is do you 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:26.160 want to see it sort of up near the top to represent the the Pinnacle of 00:05:23.919 --> 00:05:30.600 achievement that getting a million views on one video on the YouTubes is or do 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:35.280 you want it more on the bottom with more like um you know because it's 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:38.919 understated it knows it's cool so it doesn't have to be like shouting from 00:05:36.880 --> 00:05:44.639 the rooftops about it and then I also want to know if you prefer it on the 00:05:40.880 --> 00:05:47.000 left or on the right near the axe so so 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:49.319 guys this is going to be on Twitter and I'm going to go ahead I'm going to 00:05:47.919 --> 00:05:53.520 switch to the Twitter feed so you guys can see and uh yeah look's not really 00:05:52.160 --> 00:05:58.759 pointing at anything right now maybe if I stand sit here I don't know what he's 00:05:56.400 --> 00:06:03.560 pointing at oh it's this one there we go Okay so uh I'm going to see what the 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:09.919 twitters believes is the best thing to do with this particular graphics card 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:09.919 and I'm not doing a 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:18.599 giveaway okay is that a steel series Sensei behind you yes it is watching 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:22.759 live from the UK yes you are thank you for getting up so early or staying up so 00:06:20.479 --> 00:06:26.120 late whichever you did bad cable management behind me oh yeah that's my 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:31.000 server don't worry about it uh GTX 680 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:35.880 yeah that's good hang the axe on the wall the ax is on the 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:41.800 wall it's even in the picture right now that's from art vanderlay I mean yeah 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:48.880 castanza uh that's a nice ax slick is 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:54.160 awesome you guys are going to make slick all full of himself well not that one 00:06:51.039 --> 00:06:56.800 guy what the one guy say oh yeah no oh 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:59.199 oh find that tweet that was hilarious that was absolutely hilarious I don't 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:07.000 think I'm going to be able to find the Tweet but it was NE okay this guy says left middle to top 45° top and Center 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:12.319 take the axe Off the Wall take the take the axe Off the Wall are you kidding me 00:07:09.400 --> 00:07:16.000 no way the ax can stay yeah that's like what if zombies come in the middle of a 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:20.160 live stream and we could not defend ourselves and you guys had to watch us 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:25.080 die we have one sword and one axe we both need one weapon yeah oh oh find the 00:07:22.960 --> 00:07:28.840 Tweet go get the sword too though okay yeah we need the sword got to have The 00:07:26.919 --> 00:07:34.639 Sword and the helmet we have the helmet the helmet's up there you can reach it 00:07:31.280 --> 00:07:36.960 bottom and with the axe top and Center 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:42.319 left at top top top Center I'm seeing a lot of votes for top Center top Center 00:07:39.080 --> 00:07:44.560 to the left of the axe yeah okay got it 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:48.159 top Center basically near the axe right above the axe okay okay yep so that's 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:53.120 what we're going to do we are going to put this graphics card up at the top of 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:57.919 the wall near the ax kind of in the center and I'm really not sure how this 00:07:56.159 --> 00:08:03.639 is going to play out because I can't really fit back here right now with this 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:05.280 test bench here and sl's obviously not 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:08.520 lifting a finger to help me cuz I can't fit right there what do I even pay you 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:14.360 for I can't fit back there you don't pay me to be small ow my ankle oh I just kic 00:08:12.400 --> 00:08:18.400 I just kicked a hard drive and it fell on my ankle and there goes the Corsair 00:08:16.400 --> 00:08:25.599 Survivor that's okay don't worry it'll survive it's all good I got it okay so 00:08:22.919 --> 00:08:28.479 um okay here we go here we go oh you have to show them that tweet you have to 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.800 show them that tweet I got find it I think it was only sent to you I don't 00:08:30.039 --> 00:08:37.919 know it was only sent to me I think so didn't you oh oh okay um no cuz if you 00:08:36.560 --> 00:08:43.120 search for see that's the stupid thing about 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:45.959 Twitter it's like you can't search it's ridiculous so difficult to what do you 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:51.120 think like here or like down a bit down a wee bit 00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:56.680 Yeah Yeah like right there yeah yeah yeah okay so this guys is why I went for 00:08:54.320 --> 00:09:01.320 a peg board because I wanted to be able to get these hooks I ordered a bunch 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:06.399 more off eBay so that I could just hang stuff on the wall and uh have it look 00:09:04.079 --> 00:09:11.720 kind of like kind of cool and like industrial and uh I mean there's no way 00:09:09.800 --> 00:09:17.839 to use hooks like this without things looking a little bit 00:09:13.560 --> 00:09:19.079 ghetto okay and I'm kind of stuck so uh 00:09:17.839 --> 00:09:26.079 are you trying to find the Tweet or have we given up on that I'm trying to find it I don't know if I will though yeah so 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:29.880 somehow this live stream will become about computer hardware at some point 00:09:27.680 --> 00:09:34.279 guys don't worry we're uh don't worry we got we got this um okay this is going to 00:09:32.560 --> 00:09:39.560 look really awkward but can you come like push against my back I can't put 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:44.200 any pressure on it because I'm standing so close to the wall that if I put any 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:51.160 force on this then it will push me backwards okay there we go oh okay hold 00:09:46.800 --> 00:09:51.160 on that's a little hard no it's not hard 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.720 enough for those of you tuning 00:09:57.120 --> 00:10:04.800 in we are hanging something on the wall 00:10:00.680 --> 00:10:04.800 and what we're doing right now is 100% 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:10.399 necessary don't don't worry about it it's 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.200 okay the safety word is 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:23.720 cockroach oh it's not going in all right 00:10:20.680 --> 00:10:25.959 well okay hold on got to like brace 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:30.519 myself better okay okay just find a discussion topic or something oh god 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:34.279 well we could talking about Intel or Scythe no no we should do Intel later 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:37.839 when uh when more people have tuned in yeah we can talk about uh no cuz Scythe 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:42.079 was one of the ones that I teased on the uh on the intro video as well so I don't 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:49.160 want to I don't want to use that one yet when none of those people have tuned in 00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:51.680 yet this is this is really 00:10:49.160 --> 00:10:56.240 awkward uh mind sweeper Adventure Mode I didn't tell you what that was anyways 00:10:53.519 --> 00:11:00.200 yeah okay so in Windows 8 if you download mind sweeper Windows 8 doesn't 00:10:58.160 --> 00:11:04.519 actually come with it um why doesn't Windows 8 come with mind sweeper that's 00:11:01.680 --> 00:11:07.680 a tradition yeah but if you go on the uh the store you can download it like 00:11:06.040 --> 00:11:15.000 instantly and it's a tiny little package so it's not really that big of a deal but you're a tiny package I disagree um 00:11:12.760 --> 00:11:20.120 ow but yeah if you download mind sweeper on Windows 8 you can the camera's like 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:25.079 pointing way off right now but anyways watching lonus climb around in the 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:28.600 background don't worry about it okay okay mind sweeper Adventure mode yeah if 00:11:26.839 --> 00:11:34.920 you download Windows 8 mind sweeper you can then access adventure mode and it's 00:11:32.079 --> 00:11:39.800 like an RPG version of Mind sweeper and how does it have you played it yes you 00:11:37.920 --> 00:11:42.839 you have to it uses mind sweeper mechanics so you can move across the 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:46.959 screen and you have to like gather gold and get keys and unlock doors and fight 00:11:44.839 --> 00:11:50.200 monsters and travel your way through and like collect items and everything are 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:54.680 you freaking kidding me 100% And it moves um it moves like left to right 00:11:53.399 --> 00:11:58.240 instead of Mind sweeper where you start anywhere you start on the far left and 00:11:56.800 --> 00:12:03.079 then you can move to the right and you have to like progress proper L and acquire all the items and then get to 00:12:01.079 --> 00:12:05.800 the Final Exit and then you get different scores based on how many of 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:12.279 the items you get CU you can get to the exit without getting like say all the gold bars but then you didn't do very 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:16.639 well if you just rushed to the exit so yeah it's pretty cool is it fun though 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:21.519 yeah it's actually kind of fun oh sweet yeah okay I'll have to try that it's 00:12:18.079 --> 00:12:23.760 like Minecraft mixed with mind sweeper I 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:29.199 have never actually played Minecraft I'm sort of afraid to do it 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:34.480 because I tend to have kind of a kind of an addictive personality like when I 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:40.880 played wow for 2 months I played wow for two months right right right yeah and 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:46.560 then I was like oh I can't do this and I feel like you would just pick 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:48.440 some really really Grand project and not 00:12:46.560 --> 00:12:52.519 quit until you complete the whole thing well my obsessive compulsive disorder 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:56.279 would uh and I don't actually I'm not diagnosed with obsessive compulsive 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:59.639 disorder just for the viewers not I'm not mocking it or anything but it's just 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:04.000 it's just like I I can be a little bit OCD about things 00:13:01.880 --> 00:13:07.360 sometimes as well this is making really bad 00:13:05.199 --> 00:13:11.079 noises are you actually going into the wall or you I went at kind of a weird 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:16.360 angle not going to lie maybe we should only hang one thing 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:21.480 on the live stream maybe we should just hang one thing on the live stream what 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:23.800 do you think probably okay good idea 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:32.760 that was my idea but you know you tried to steal it um yeah so that did not go 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:34.120 as planned are you good um yeah I think 00:13:32.760 --> 00:13:39.440 I can get down do you want to go adjust the camera in the meantime yeah so that 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:43.600 if I do fall and hurt myself that they won't necessarily get to witness every 00:13:41.839 --> 00:13:46.880 gory moment of it oh no I'm just going to make sure that it's all on camera 00:13:44.959 --> 00:13:51.399 it's funny because someone was saying they were like oh what's that table 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:54.160 you're using for your set it's awesome 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:57.519 and um I need a new table and that looks really good and it's funny because these 00:13:55.600 --> 00:14:02.320 are the crappiest tables in the world they weigh about a billion tons look if 00:13:59.680 --> 00:14:07.120 I stand on them they shake like this like they're not sturdy at all but 00:14:05.360 --> 00:14:13.680 they they're like so heavy they're ancient Ikea like garbage um like the 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:18.519 the the the actual color of these tables is basically like um there's another 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:21.560 tabletop it's outside or something but it's like the most horrible color in the 00:14:19.839 --> 00:14:26.360 world I just spray painted them and I know it's not going to hold out very 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:27.920 well but it's just temporary so uh yeah 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:33.519 so so yeah there's nothing special about them you do not want these 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:35.839 cables okay slick come on back and maybe 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:39.920 we'll actually uh maybe we'll actually like do a live stream maybe we should 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:43.279 Dive Right into Intel you know what's awesome is that they actually can't even 00:14:41.680 --> 00:14:48.800 see that graphics card that I spent all that time putting up can you play 00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:54.079 and he almost knocked over a light we're good we're good what do I even pay you 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:57.959 for I don't know not oh it's reflecting 00:14:54.079 --> 00:14:57.959 okay hold on I'll fix it 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:11.519 we good yeah all right see always keep a 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:15.399 sword handy yeah oh yeah a lot of people have 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:19.839 commented on my sword I got it at the Richmond KN Market it's folded steel so 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:24.440 it's not actually like one of those swords that's just just totally a 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:29.880 replica and totally useless it is sharp so like if we were fighting right now I 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:36.079 I would stand a cuz he's much larger than me um it's 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:38.759 only half Tang so you can see the uh the 00:15:36.079 --> 00:15:43.240 pins only go down to here so it's not a proper it's like it's not a proper 00:15:40.560 --> 00:15:47.399 proper sword but you know I basically I basically told the 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:51.040 guy I was like well I don't care how it looks but I want something that's 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:55.560 actually legitimately a sword not something that's like a glorified toy 00:15:53.920 --> 00:15:59.279 yeah um so so this is what he this is what he came up with for me and I was 00:15:56.920 --> 00:16:03.680 like okay yeah we're done we're cool that's good anyway we'll put that aside 00:16:00.560 --> 00:16:06.000 for now um and then the axe has sort of 00:16:03.680 --> 00:16:11.759 a less interesting story behind it the axe this ARM goes up to point at the axe 00:16:08.920 --> 00:16:16.079 the axe um I needed to do some yard work and so my dad brought over his tools to 00:16:13.560 --> 00:16:22.519 help me and then he forgot his axe so I requisitioned it which is pretty much 00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:26.000 how I mean who here has ever who here has ever stolen a tool from their 00:16:26.560 --> 00:16:30.560 dad yeah 00:16:30.800 --> 00:16:37.319 it's like when I first started working on computers I never bought my own screwdrivers but I had my own 00:16:34.959 --> 00:16:41.480 screwdrivers yeah I mean by the time by the time you're like 30 you probably 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:45.720 haven't actually bought any tools yet there all your dads but your dad's just 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:49.639 like why have I bought three dremels in the last 10 years well I'm sure my dad 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:54.040 knows at one point in time I think he just kind of bought another set of 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:58.240 screwdrivers and just left cuz there's this like gray box that has these yellow 00:16:56.560 --> 00:17:01.720 handled screwdrivers in them that I've just always kind of had but they were 00:16:59.839 --> 00:17:05.400 always definitely his yeah and I think at one point in time he just gave up and 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:09.360 bought his own like another set of his own yeah and was just like oh he can 00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:13.959 have those whatever it's fine I think the thing that my dad 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:20.079 eventually gave in and just bought me was a cordless drill oh yeah because I 00:17:16.959 --> 00:17:21.520 was always always stealing it you know 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:24.600 what for my birth for my last birthday he actually got me a circular saw oh 00:17:23.360 --> 00:17:29.480 yeah and the funny thing about that is the one that he got me ended up being 00:17:26.439 --> 00:17:31.640 DOA and so all this stuff that I've been 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:35.600 doing in here like putting together for those of you who haven't seen it I have 00:17:33.520 --> 00:17:40.960 a white box now okay see I have a white box now I 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:47.520 built myself like some walls and stuff see cool stuff right uh so so my white 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:52.880 box was built without the benefit of a circular saw which would have been 00:17:49.760 --> 00:17:54.760 beneficial um instead I used a jiga to 00:17:52.880 --> 00:18:00.799 cut through stuff that was like this thick which I'm very sure it's not 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:02.559 supposed to do yeah it's not good for it 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:07.039 probably just not the best application yeah yeah but I mean it was fast and it 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:15.840 was better than and the funny thing is I don't have a wood saw but I do have a hacksaw so I was like okay I can either 00:18:11.760 --> 00:18:19.320 use a hacka metal saw or I can use a 00:18:15.840 --> 00:18:22.159 jigsaw neither of which are for this no 00:18:19.320 --> 00:18:26.240 no yeah no just no uh where did our mouse pad that's 00:18:25.080 --> 00:18:31.039 behind you all right let's do some let's do 00:18:28.919 --> 00:18:37.480 some Tweeter so moving um is this like 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:42.640 working it's you turn the mouse off yeah here 00:18:39.520 --> 00:18:45.280 okay cover him up cover him up oh he's 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:51.720 hideous are you guys over how hot he is yet can we just how do I scroll on this 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:53.799 thing it doesn't work I don't know yeah 00:18:51.720 --> 00:19:00.960 SLI can't figure out how to scroll it's on a touch mouse there's no scroll wheel 00:18:56.080 --> 00:19:03.840 and I'm like scrolling here try it 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:09.360 again well here click on the window at least make it the Focus 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:09.360 window okay try it 00:19:09.840 --> 00:19:18.200 again oh you're at the top are you doing that with the 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:22.440 keyboard stop stop pressing the keyboard 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:24.400 you're trolling me stop okay okay okay 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:29.240 okay that's okay I'll scroll through them he want to hang the katana I never 00:19:27.120 --> 00:19:32.000 gave my dad that great n screwdriver it's a flathead and can screww and 00:19:30.320 --> 00:19:35.480 unscrew everything I have never heard of a Nar screwdriver here do you want to 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:39.280 squeeze over a little bit I don't think yeah you're just way 00:19:38.120 --> 00:19:43.159 too large take the whole window what are you 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:48.640 talking about yeah but that's only because of like my 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:52.320 buffness you're just tall I don't look that big anymore CU 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:55.520 you're close to the camera yeah but you're wearing like the big jacket that 00:19:53.919 --> 00:20:00.600 you're wearing to overcompensate for whatever it is you it's your jacket yeah 00:19:57.360 --> 00:20:01.919 and I'm but I'm not wearing it 00:20:00.600 --> 00:20:09.600 should hang the katana on the wall no the katana stays in my uh in my in my 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:12.679 living room um stop calling Ikea crap uh 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:14.880 okay I guess I could stop calling 00:20:12.679 --> 00:20:19.000 computers computers and I could stop calling grape 00:20:17.600 --> 00:20:22.840 juice delicious but I'm not going to do either 00:20:21.360 --> 00:20:29.039 of those things I will you ever have estra on the live stream I'm not sure it depends I mean she's pretty busy sort of 00:20:26.080 --> 00:20:33.159 at night and test bench one know which one there's on I can't see that oh a 00:20:31.159 --> 00:20:36.880 test bench our test benches are high-s speeed PC teex stations and then one of 00:20:35.360 --> 00:20:45.000 them is some MSI thing but you want a highspeed PC text station yeah 00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:46.640 um hey flip here likes the new setup 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:50.679 flip is the first person who has actually given me any positive feedback 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:56.400 on the new setup with the blue wall and or with the red wall the blue thing um I 00:20:53.120 --> 00:20:58.720 I think I tweeted this but I had someone 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:01.480 so I had someone give me a put a message on one of my YouTube videos where I was 00:20:59.960 --> 00:21:05.480 showing off the room where they were like oh yeah you should switch the uh 00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:11.600 the colors of the pegboard in the wall that's a lot of work I was like you 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:18.240 understand that red paint like like red red like like this red is like five 00:21:13.840 --> 00:21:23.720 Coates right like yeah not a lot of work 00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:25.039 not happening at all pardon my frl um 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:29.159 where do you get your okay what's the difference between a monitor and a TV besides the TV tuner and inputs that's a 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:36.640 good question question what is the difference between a monitor and a TV slick it's a lot higher quality 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:40.039 monitor what yeah what do you mean higher quality well the pixel density is 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:44.200 higher yeah but usually you get way less 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:48.720 latency pixel density is usually way higher yeah but I don't think the less 00:21:46.120 --> 00:21:55.919 latency is a quality issue because TVs have more complicated processors yeah in 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:59.600 order to but for what you're using it 00:21:55.919 --> 00:22:02.480 for oh so what you mean is why should a 00:21:59.600 --> 00:22:05.679 computer user not use a TV because I remember there was one guy that used to 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:09.960 go to the same land parties as me who actually had like a 37 in TV bigger TV 00:22:08.679 --> 00:22:15.480 every time that he was using for his monitor yeah and um so yeah okay fine 00:22:12.840 --> 00:22:21.159 from from a PC application sort of perspective um input leg is much higher 00:22:18.360 --> 00:22:26.120 on TVs they do way more processing on the image because they have to be able 00:22:23.120 --> 00:22:29.000 to um just juice up the colors and make 00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:35.039 it look more better as opposed to more faster um pixel density is very very low 00:22:33.320 --> 00:22:41.840 because I mean a 30in monitor is going to be 2560 by 1600 and a 30in TV will be 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:46.559 probably 720p even probably yeah usually they yeah like 30 in so I mean you might 00:22:44.760 --> 00:22:51.200 be able to get like a 30 something higher at 1080p but even then that's 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:55.600 much lower density um I'm not very fluent in TVs at all but the lowest one 00:22:53.360 --> 00:22:59.960 I've seen this 1080p was 36 most TVs aren't TM though so if we were going to 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:05.320 compare to cheap monitor then so yeah they so so a TV will be 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:07.240 cheaper higher input leg uh probably 00:23:05.320 --> 00:23:11.279 better colors unless it's a super cheap TV and you're buying like you'd be 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:15.640 pretty crazy to manufacture a TN TV because the TV would be like 10 ft away 00:23:14.080 --> 00:23:19.880 and people would be like oh I move my head here oh can't see it where and 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:23.559 people window shop tvs hardcore walk into Best Buy or wherever the heck you 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:28.720 want to go and then they see them on the wall and then pick one it's usually how 00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:31.120 they do it so you need to like have have 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:33.840 good picture quality reflex yes you can reuse a hard drive with Windows 7 on a 00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:39.840 new pc Joel says I'm in need of a new pc but 00:23:36.840 --> 00:23:42.400 don't know how to afford it I'm only 00:23:39.840 --> 00:23:48.240 12 Joel you're going to have to wait a bit what did you have for a computer 00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:50.720 when you were 12 uh the one my dad built 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:53.360 like you but it was yours no no no no oh okay what did you have for your own 00:23:51.919 --> 00:23:59.000 computer when you I did not have my own computer when I was 12 I did it was a 00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.559 Pentium 166 MHz I'm actually trying to 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:05.840 remember when I built my computer maybe it was new then oh okay well I didn't have my own 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:13.120 computer till I was 16 that was like legit I saved for like and had Onboard 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:16.360 video nice yeah nice yeah I saved for 00:24:13.120 --> 00:24:18.880 like two or three years GeForce 4mx baby 00:24:16.360 --> 00:24:23.400 that's balling I was way that was quite a bit before my time actually 00:24:20.919 --> 00:24:27.000 yeah uh build a gaming rig for a friend should I use Windows 7 or Windows 8 uh 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:30.360 can you move the window over a little bit so we don't have that gray bar 00:24:31.159 --> 00:24:36.080 want to thank you sir uh building gaming rig for a friend Windows 7 or Windows 8 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:41.679 what do you think um if you want to get windows8 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:45.559 just download them the Windows 8 start bar thing there's like a million 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:49.679 different programs that do it now uh we we we made a video a while ago about 00:24:47.679 --> 00:24:53.399 Nite so if you're building in the computer if you want to run Nite to 00:24:51.399 --> 00:24:59.440 install all the default programs one of the things in Nite now is Windows 8 00:24:55.880 --> 00:25:01.880 classic start menu oh okay like 00:24:59.440 --> 00:25:06.559 yeah don't get her done yeah I mean Windows 8 is lower is less resource 00:25:04.679 --> 00:25:12.440 intensive it boots and resumes and sleeps faster um it'll obviously get 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:18.799 more support in the longer run did you hear about the whole Windows blue thing 00:25:15.399 --> 00:25:20.559 no oh not at all so Windows 8 it this is 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:24.600 this is sort of semi- rumor I don't know how confirmed it is but I was I was just 00:25:22.080 --> 00:25:29.720 reading about it so um you know how OS 10 The Branding hasn't actually changed 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:34.240 in years yeah they just kind of go 10 point whatever and then it's a new OS 00:25:31.919 --> 00:25:38.760 but it's not that new like they're just making tweaks as they go so what I heard 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:43.960 is that Windows 8 is actually going to be the last like like for a while it'll 00:25:41.919 --> 00:25:49.000 be Windows 8 and then it'll be every year they'll do a small update at a low 00:25:47.120 --> 00:25:54.399 cost like you know how um like Apple only charges 20 bucks for the next 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:56.559 iteration of their OS and um I mean what 00:25:54.399 --> 00:26:00.640 do you think so it's going to be Windows blue now and then they're just going to 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:03.840 change Windows 8 so it's just yeah I think that's like an internal code name 00:26:01.840 --> 00:26:07.720 or something I'm not 100% sure but doesn't okay I'm not that great with 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:12.760 apple but don't they change like the animal yeah but it's OS leopard snow 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:19.919 leopard lion tiger so for differ differentiation 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:25.279 reasons that one's pink that's a they 00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:28.799 should they should um they should have some naming convention to help it along 00:26:27.520 --> 00:26:34.080 okay but it could be like blue and then orange and then yellow or something like I don't know I just heard this blue 00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:37.520 thing and then I was like so kind cool with that are they just copying apple or 00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:42.200 is it this like them no that's what everyone does 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:43.520 know mobile devices everything they're 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:47.960 bigger steps but there's always Little Steps in between and like on a mobile 00:26:45.399 --> 00:26:53.279 device you don't pay for it right get it for free so it's not necessarily copying 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:56.840 if it's the future so you just think the concept of the OS is just changing and 00:26:55.360 --> 00:27:03.600 Microsoft should just get used to giving away Windows and giving away off 00:26:59.679 --> 00:27:03.600 office they better sell a lot of 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:09.760 Xboxes yeah and yeah surface and like a 00:27:07.080 --> 00:27:15.200 lot of like paid Sky Drive accounts yeah no like can still charge 00:27:11.919 --> 00:27:16.960 for like Windows but it's going to be 00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:21.080 cheaper right okay I think it's going to have to be 00:27:18.399 --> 00:27:26.240 cheaper this is the most homoerotic live stream yet now take off your shirts do 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:27.480 you want to do it no you sure yes is it 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:32.840 cuz it's cold in here and your nipples will be all like partially okay but 00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.840 definitely not 00:27:33.360 --> 00:27:42.799 completely I have this coffee for the whole live stream yes I play Minecraft 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:44.640 don't unsub yeah dare you yeah yeah one 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:48.640 of us plays Minecraft it's all good good enough humble Indie bundle yes oh yeah 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:54.159 the new humble bundles I guess this one's not indie CU THQ yeah THQ it's 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:57.240 humble THQ bundle yeah so if you guys don't know about it already there's a 00:27:55.480 --> 00:28:01.440 new Humble Bundle it's a bunch of like legit THQ games what all do they have in 00:27:59.399 --> 00:28:06.919 there it's company hero okay if you pay above the average you get uh slick Row 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:13.840 the Slick Row the thir slick Row Saints Row see I told you guys you boost this 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:18.640 guy's ego up and up he's going to think that he's some kind of like game Star 00:28:17.399 --> 00:28:22.799 next thing it's going to be like you know slick PC Blood on the sand and 00:28:21.600 --> 00:28:28.360 you're going to be all like with a bandana and like thug Life 50 Cent yeah 00:28:25.679 --> 00:28:33.720 that's that 50 Cent thing or like you'll be like you'll be like remaking it like 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.720 2 years later like Chronicles of 00:28:34.039 --> 00:28:40.360 Ric I liked Chronicles of rck actually did you like the first one or the second 00:28:37.840 --> 00:28:44.880 one pitch black I don't know pitch black was really good was it okay pitch black 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:47.600 was like the first one okay okay pitch but pitch black wasn't Chronicles or 00:28:46.159 --> 00:28:54.960 ridic though I think it was just pitch black then I think the next one was Chronicles oric okay whatever um Saints 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:59.720 Row the Third uh is if you pay above the average when I got it the average was $5 00:28:58.159 --> 00:29:03.039 40 cents no it's way higher now though is it I think it's like 12 bucks now 00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:07.000 really I think that's the biggest they've ever had it for a Humble Bundle 00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:11.440 yeah but it's also like a plus titles oh I know I know like Triple AAA titles so 00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:14.519 um yeah guys check it out just Google Humble Bundle if you haven't uh if you 00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:21.519 haven't heard of it before it's really really awesome Darksiders one is in IT company Heroes with the DLCs is in it um 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.320 and then I think something else but this is all off top my head I don't really 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:31.399 remember is Metro 2033 in it yes yeah Metro 2033 is in it 00:29:28.159 --> 00:29:32.760 safety word cockroach well yes it's even 00:29:31.399 --> 00:29:38.519 better because it has the word roach in it yeah because you're 00:29:36.399 --> 00:29:40.720 encroaching on my personal space y That's 00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:49.080 exactly uh ala Clary asks how does twitch not 00:29:46.600 --> 00:29:51.240 kick you for not streaming games because they 00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:59.080 don't stop 00:29:59.159 --> 00:30:06.679 uh yikes can you even lift that axe get 00:30:03.320 --> 00:30:08.919 real like slick oh wow wow the this 00:30:06.679 --> 00:30:12.720 guy's drinking the haterade this Nishant guy right here not as much as the guy 00:30:10.760 --> 00:30:18.640 that hates me and I can lift that axe I'll have you know well I can lift the 00:30:15.760 --> 00:30:23.559 axe I put it up there yeah I didn't have slick do it for me 00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:29.240 nope all right clarification okay slick your are you 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:33.720 like a super fan of Assassin's Creed I freaking love Assassin's Creed uh my 00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:39.080 favorite game series is um the other Scrolls but Assassin's Creed is probably 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:44.960 my second favorite game series really yeah cuz final fantasyy is 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:47.640 my favorite have you only played one no I've played lots of them Oh I thought 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:51.480 you'd only played six no I played through most of the first one but it was 00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:56.279 kind of tough like actual number one or like actual number one I've beat five 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:59.760 I've beat six I've beat seven I made it like 10 minutes into eight and I was 00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:03.559 like this is ridiculous eight was the first one I played eight was stupid so I 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:10.240 was like this is sweet and then I played other ones I was like oh I made it all the way through nine um I think 10's the 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:14.039 one with zidane and Waka and whatnot I get them I made it all the way through 00:31:11.399 --> 00:31:18.080 10 I made it all the way through two I made it all the way through three four I 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:23.480 think was just rubbish if I recall correctly so I've played most of them 00:31:20.120 --> 00:31:24.559 but honestly guys I was trying to play 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:28.919 I'm going to have to find out which one it is but it was just terrible I'll 00:31:27.360 --> 00:31:32.600 probably do it now they they got they got tired of in my I know they're 00:31:31.320 --> 00:31:39.679 continuing the story line but it seems like they just got tired of making more numbers so now they just add a dash and 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:40.519 then another number 133 is I heard I 00:31:39.679 --> 00:31:45.519 heard one of my friends at school talking about 133 today it's like come 00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:49.240 on like at what point are we just going to like they'll start doing it by 00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:53.519 Seasons yeah I was actually thinking the other day they should release a game 00:31:51.320 --> 00:31:56.960 that's structured like a TV show so you buy the game for like 20 bucks and then 00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:02.440 once a week you get more content well it's called episodic game and valve 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:04.159 tried to do it where is episode three oh 00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:09.919 well yeah but they don't release it every week they release it every like 30 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:14.039 years valve time week exactly yeah valve 00:32:09.919 --> 00:32:14.840 time week Wiki Google Google valve time 00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:19.799 if you're interested funniest thing ever I'm sure everyone watching this has heard of 00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.279 valve time before though yeah we only have 1,600 people on the stream you guys 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:27.320 should tell all of your friends to join the stream because it's 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:30.519 awesome Joshua great question what is your favorite mouse that is still in 00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:33.679 production because a lot of people ask me what mouse I use I tell them my Cari 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:40.679 laser and they can't have one cuz it's discontinued uh g9x is 00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:45.440 awesome get a g9x because everything else is just sort of totally a waste you 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:50.120 know what you know what kills me oh and we're echoing big time what why would we 00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:53.600 be echoing no one else has complained about it 00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:58.600 yet I don't know I don't think you have the stream open in another window both 00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.720 of our browsers are up yeah 00:32:58.600 --> 00:33:03.159 oh it's probably just because of the garage guys the mic's a little bit 00:33:01.639 --> 00:33:08.279 further away from us so there's not really a whole lot we can do there's going to be a little bit of echo uh my 00:33:06.120 --> 00:33:11.639 foam strategy is not really doing anything and it's not covering the whole 00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:16.039 ceiling yet and it's not covering the room yet I have to cover like that wall 00:33:13.600 --> 00:33:19.960 and I have to cover the ceiling and yeah bear with us guys bear with us and 00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:25.760 apparently I got the average totally wrong for the Humble Bundle it's only like six bucks so yeah it's usually 00:33:22.840 --> 00:33:28.559 right around six bucks great deal oh oh check this out get rid of slick what a 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:34.279 mean yeah sck you're 00:33:31.679 --> 00:33:38.159 fired um why do you why don't you put the 00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:42.519 Twitter feet above your heads I like to see you and Slick interact and covering 00:33:39.679 --> 00:33:47.880 him up isn't I thought it helped I mean here try it it's like when they get have 00:33:44.159 --> 00:33:51.279 to do like the eye test it's like better 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:52.760 worse better worse and then you like 00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:56.200 pick which one is better I'd love to I'd love to hear what you guys think okay so 00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:02.639 here you find a topic I have to go log into my email where I arived all of thep 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.799 talk uh sure let's do that one let's do 00:34:02.639 --> 00:34:09.720 that one okay so go ahead I'm listening uh Intel 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:15.040 with uh Broadwell is going to be releasing BGA socket BGA socket is going 00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:18.639 to be soldered in so it's not swapable um apparently this will only be 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:24.440 replacing the tier of processors around like the 1155 tier not the 2011 tier so 00:34:22.359 --> 00:34:29.240 you'll still have like the expensive tier of processors workstation um it'll 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:33.679 probably overlap with the server socket in all likelihood I can't see them going 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:39.119 to three sockets no no I seriously don't I can't imagine why AMD is using three 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:46.679 sockets anyway sorry sorry like moving moving right along so go ahead um 00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:49.440 yeah that's what it is what are your 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:53.399 thoughts I'm not happy because I come from more of the value oriented series 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:56.879 of things okay because most of the computers that I have built have been on 00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:00.160 a pretty tight budget um and I know you're going to bring up how many times 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:04.880 do you swap your processor oh that's coming that's coming for you like this 00:35:02.760 --> 00:35:08.480 but I actually totally agree you totally agree with what I think it sucks because 00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:12.800 I want to have more choices I don't think it sucks because I want to change 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:17.640 my processor all that often because I can't actually think of a time when 00:35:14.640 --> 00:35:19.480 myself or most not all of my friends 00:35:17.640 --> 00:35:23.119 most have decided that they want to change their processor before a newer 00:35:21.240 --> 00:35:26.359 and better architecture has come out that they wanted to upgrade to anyway so 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:31.280 they had to buy a new motherboard all right I'm going to play a little bit of Devil's advocate here and I'm going to 00:35:29.040 --> 00:35:35.520 give you all the reasons why Intel and the industry might want to do this I 00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:39.400 don't care why they want to do it no no all the reasons why it might be 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:43.920 justified okay okay first of okay why don't we do why Intel wants to do it so 00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:48.280 Intel wants to take as much control of the experience as possible we've seen 00:35:46.359 --> 00:35:52.640 this over the last few years they integrated a memory controller they 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:58.160 integrated a PCI Express um interface they 00:35:55.440 --> 00:36:02.920 integrated uh GPU yeah they're integrating more and more and and more 00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:06.800 onto the CPU itself so what is this doing it's taking differentiation away 00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:11.359 from the board partners because it used to be like it wasn't that long ago that 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:16.920 you could differentiate your board based on how great of a memory overclocker it 00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:18.800 was like um ocz had like the coolest 00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:23.359 thing ever it was like it was called the DDR booster do you know about this no oh 00:36:21.720 --> 00:36:27.720 the DDR booster was amazing okay so it fit in a dim slot and it worked with 00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:33.839 certain boards where you could just crank the beesus out of the voltage to 00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:40.599 your memory so guys were using bh5 back then um so this was like a legendary 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:42.160 wind Bond bh5 chips to just crank way 00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:46.800 too much voltage like doubling the voltage of their memory and uh and and 00:36:45.240 --> 00:36:50.040 that was resulting in tangible performance gains and part of the reason 00:36:48.520 --> 00:36:54.359 for that was because the motherboard designers actually had to 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:57.240 optimize the the timings internally within the North Bridge and the way it 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:01.200 communicated with the CPU the way it communic at with the memory a 00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:05.960 motherboard was actually in some ways way more complicated 5 years ago 8 years 00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:10.680 ago than it is now and important now it doesn't do almost anything there isn't 00:37:08.200 --> 00:37:15.200 even a PCI controller on an entry level board think about that for a minute what 00:37:13.040 --> 00:37:22.520 is it even doing in there that requires a high-speed interconnect Thunderbolts 00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:25.920 an off chip separate chip yeah yeah um 00:37:22.520 --> 00:37:28.920 USB 3 is built into the chipset but I 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:31.319 mean okay so it's 5 GB per second total 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:36.839 across all the ports so it's not like this is a super so it's we still got 00:37:33.319 --> 00:37:38.240 SATA and SATA I mean like are we at the 00:37:36.839 --> 00:37:42.200 end of SATA what's the new one that's coming something Express or something right I don't remember the name of it 00:37:40.680 --> 00:37:46.040 but yeah we're I don't think SATA's developing anymore are they yeah SATA I 00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:49.319 think is just done and so SATA I mean ultimately that's probably going to go 00:37:47.240 --> 00:37:53.960 on chip because if it's going to be any faster than sort of SATA USB 3 they're 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:56.800 going to have to move it on chip okay so so Intel's taking more and more of the 00:37:55.520 --> 00:38:02.800 ecosystem and they're putting it into the chip this does a few different things so it saves on cost it saves on 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:06.400 complexity and drives up margins theoretically for everyone but in 00:38:04.200 --> 00:38:10.160 practice mostly for in mostly for Intel mostly for Intel um the other thing that 00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:15.000 I thought was fascinating is because of AMD's complacency or lack of execution 00:38:13.240 --> 00:38:20.480 or whatever else you want to call it Intel has been spending so much less on 00:38:17.720 --> 00:38:25.960 die area for the actual CPU portion if you compare the die size of an Intel 00:38:22.680 --> 00:38:28.240 Core i5 3570k to what would be the most 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:32.760 equivalent AMD chip something like an fx8350 where they're equivalent in terms 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:36.079 of their actual real world performance I I don't remember the exact size 00:38:34.359 --> 00:38:42.240 difference but Intel is spending less than half on the actual CPU logic 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:46.040 portion compared to what AMD that means the actual cost of that chip is less 00:38:44.720 --> 00:38:49.920 than half well they've been able to just sit there with all their R&D time that 00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:55.079 they just don't really have to utilize lately and just spend it on like okay 00:38:52.200 --> 00:38:58.079 let's save money right let's make it smaller and smaller and smaller it's 00:38:56.160 --> 00:39:03.240 like Kepler how Kepler is a much smaller physically GPU than FY was with a little 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:07.079 like plastic extension on the end um so right so Intel is because they don't 00:39:05.560 --> 00:39:12.160 have to they don't have to keep pushing die sizes in order to get more performance because no one's biting at 00:39:10.200 --> 00:39:15.599 their heels um they're bringing more and more on board so this is a natural 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:19.760 extension so now what Intel is going to do and it it aligns with corporate 00:39:17.680 --> 00:39:25.400 branding as well because just like something like Ultrabook they can go 00:39:21.680 --> 00:39:28.000 okay this is a core this is a core i7 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:32.960 platform if you want a core I seven you're going to get you know SLI and 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:36.200 Crossfire and you know 16x PCIe you're going to get Thunderbolt you're going to 00:39:34.720 --> 00:39:40.119 get blah blah blah blah blah and it comes with this CPU so they generate a 00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:47.599 very consistent experience and from a branding perspective it's much easier so 00:39:43.520 --> 00:39:49.040 the um the parts where I'm okay so so 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:53.400 there there that's that's why all this is happening it's lower cost it's uh 00:39:51.839 --> 00:39:58.720 it's more integrated it's easier to control it takes more of the more of the 00:39:56.480 --> 00:40:02.520 value and more of the uh more of The Branding and puts it on Intel and takes 00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:06.440 it away from the guys producing motherboards um so here I'm going to 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:12.359 start to advocate for why it's a good idea okay uh lower costs will ultimately 00:40:10.560 --> 00:40:16.200 benefit the consumer at some point you can be as cynical as you want about it 00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:23.000 but at the end of the day how much did a computer cost 20 years ago yeah yeah 00:40:19.240 --> 00:40:25.240 miniaturization has come for us we have 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:31.079 benefited from process shrinks and from lowering bomb costs so maybe your 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.520 desktop gaming computer actually isn't 00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:37.079 going to go down in price much between now and the next 5 years but the 00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:42.280 computer that sits in the dash of your car and the computer that sits in the 00:40:39.839 --> 00:40:47.680 back of your TV and all those computers that will now be all over the place will 00:40:44.839 --> 00:40:52.119 be a better value so overall it will come for you you will get a better value 00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:57.599 out of all of these out of this tighter integration okay number two I actually 00:40:55.240 --> 00:41:03.280 inherently trust Intel to deliver a cons experience yeah if I buy an Intel 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.920 motherboard I don't it to overclock like Sting I don't expect it to necessarily 00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:11.280 have all the best features but I expect it to work yeah it'll work it'll do what 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:15.839 it said it does because they will always follow the code yes they will make a 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.760 standard that they know works and they will follow it they will follow it yeah 00:41:17.720 --> 00:41:24.880 to the letter for Better or For Worse but usually for better yeah if I buy an 00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:27.040 Intel SSD I expect it will work I mean 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.800 same thing like for my server machine you you see an agility hanging out of it 00:41:28.640 --> 00:41:36.480 right now that's not what I'll actually be running the OS off of it's an old x2m 00:41:32.160 --> 00:41:37.800 because I'd rather use that um so from 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:43.800 from a consumer standpoint I'm looking at it going okay well yeah that's fine 00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:47.280 okay so next is let's talk 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:49.520 performance do you need more performance 00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.520 than a 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:58.760 3770k yeah what for uh hire and stuff not not gaming not 00:41:57.040 --> 00:42:06.880 gaming okay so then you should be buying a professional platform yeah okay so for 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:13.359 your most of your friends who want to play Black Ops 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:15.640 2 or whatever game that isn't rubbish um 00:42:13.359 --> 00:42:20.000 new new Elder Scrolls game whatever else have we reached a point where the 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:23.280 CPU is really really not holding back the gaming experience I think what's 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:28.480 more holding back to gaming experience is consoles well yes um and I think gra 00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:33.079 cards are going to be holding it back very very soon and hard pushing engines 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.920 and graphics cards and whatnot and 4K and 4K 4K is going to just C whatever 00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:40.839 graphics card you have right now 4K is going to crush it y even modern games 00:42:39.319 --> 00:42:44.359 today if you were going to try and run them at 4K it'll just destroy them like 00:42:43.160 --> 00:42:50.720 just crush them they don't have enough RAM they don't have enough horsepower it's going to crush them so if we're 00:42:48.040 --> 00:42:54.960 expecting cry engine 3 to bring a completely new level of graphical 00:42:52.839 --> 00:42:59.359 quality and then we're expecting to run it at 4K resolution and then we've got 00:42:57.359 --> 00:43:04.319 NVIDIA spending half as much on die siiz for their high-end card as they did a 00:43:01.160 --> 00:43:06.119 generation ago um and delivering sort of 00:43:04.319 --> 00:43:10.200 incremental generational upgrades on a longer and longer cycle because they 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:14.480 have less and less pressure from AMD I'm actually sort of worried cuz we're going 00:43:11.640 --> 00:43:20.079 to want 4K 3D which means we're going to have to push 120 FPS at four times the 00:43:17.319 --> 00:43:24.119 sort of when 4K gets more popular I think even 00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:28.599 if this going to be really pressured by ATI well AMD have you seen AMD stock 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:32.400 price have you seen how much cash they have left yeah but the graphics CS are 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:37.160 still pushing pretty damn hard not profitably I mean again AMD is 00:43:35.680 --> 00:43:43.800 another great example on the graphics cores I think their die is like 30 40 00:43:39.680 --> 00:43:46.319 50% bigger than n's die yeah so in terms 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:50.520 of any from a business standpoint 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:57.599 trouble yeah I don't know but they will be pressured by what the consumers need 00:43:54.119 --> 00:44:01.119 though but do the consumers need it but 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:03.839 you you just said 4K I need it 4K gaming 00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:08.280 but I mean graphics card sales like if you look at if you look at the at the 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:11.720 market numbers are going like this and it's funny because everyone wants to 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:15.920 talk about PC gaming is alive PC gaming is alive PC gaming is alive but it's not 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:20.960 um you because of what we just said though nothing pushes it Plants versus 00:44:17.839 --> 00:44:23.280 Zombies World of Warcraft that is PC 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:27.400 gaming now yeah so no one needs a GTX 680 for that but even like brand new 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:31.079 high-end Shooters it doesn't matter because they're all running terrible 00:44:29.040 --> 00:44:34.240 engines that don't matter yes cry engine will hopefully push it and 4K will 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:39.240 hopefully push it so people will actually care about buying a new graphics card it'll have been a long 00:44:37.240 --> 00:44:44.680 time I think the last the last time I think people were really passionate and 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:48.640 driven to buy a new graphics card was 00:44:44.680 --> 00:44:51.280 8800 series and crisis yeah I mean it's 00:44:48.640 --> 00:44:55.640 still it's still there the the old thing but can it run crisis still matters it 00:44:54.520 --> 00:45:01.800 still matters um which is ridiculous but true 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:05.040 okay but I would argue that as soon as uh as soon as all of these limitations 00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:09.960 hit us CPU actually won't be that important because GPU will remain better 00:45:08.200 --> 00:45:15.440 for things like physics calculations whether it's using opencl or physx or 00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:17.800 Cuda or whatever else um and the CPU 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:21.119 will be more than enough you manage sit there and manage yeah it's just going to 00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:26.040 sit there and manage so okay so I would argue that for 98% of people we actually 00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:31.480 don't need more performance than we have today go ahead keep shrinking it staple 00:45:28.720 --> 00:45:36.000 them all together save power you sound like that guy that said 00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:39.480 we don't need more than 60 F 56 KOB of RAM that's a misquote by the way he 00:45:37.359 --> 00:45:47.040 apparently never said that someone said that was Gill Gat um okay so the next 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:50.400 one the next one from my side is we might not need it now we will need it at 00:45:48.520 --> 00:45:56.839 some point okay the next one one from my side is is more Choice good for the 00:45:53.839 --> 00:45:56.839 consumer 00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:04.040 why would it be bad for the consumer because consumers often don't know what they're doing do you know how many 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:06.559 systems I've seen come across my desk where I'm like 00:46:06.680 --> 00:46:15.359 really yeah but it's still nice to have Choice why how okay okay okay here 00:46:13.640 --> 00:46:21.119 choice always drives competition uh okay but those you know 00:46:18.640 --> 00:46:25.520 ASUS MSI Gigabyte ASRock well maybe ASRock to a lesser extent if they get 00:46:22.839 --> 00:46:28.960 acquired but um those guys are always going to be competing anyway you you 00:46:27.040 --> 00:46:34.000 still have choice but you won't be able to make the wrong choice you won't be 00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:36.119 able to make a bad choice right because 00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:42.040 someone will validate at some level that that's not a completely ridiculous 00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.839 configuration and for you the Enthusiast 00:46:42.040 --> 00:46:49.200 I believe it doesn't matter because you would have bought a saber-tooth and a 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:52.280 3570k anyway like if a literally think 00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:55.760 about this if as Seuss solded a 3570k to 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:58.839 the saber-tooth would it bother you no 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.839 that's a huge amount of 00:46:59.160 --> 00:47:04.599 but still it's still nice what do you mean but still I don't know I still want 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:10.440 the option to put it in myself if you needed th if you needed Thunderbolt would it 00:47:08.359 --> 00:47:14.200 bother you that much to spend an extra $100 overall on the platform you already 00:47:12.640 --> 00:47:17.960 spend have to spend like an extra 80 bucks on the motherb that's right so the 00:47:15.720 --> 00:47:23.119 more integrated it gets yeah true so so so if you were if 00:47:21.680 --> 00:47:26.960 you needed a premium feature like Thunderbolt does it bother you that you 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:32.160 have to buy an i7 no okay not 00:47:29.200 --> 00:47:35.520 really so okay so those are my those are those are my three points so Point 00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:38.800 number one is ultimately the cost savings will come to the consumer okay 00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:43.559 the main the main reason why I don't like it is the more that this H like I 00:47:41.200 --> 00:47:47.640 don't want this to be the like the person who kicks the ball and it just 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:51.559 continues to roll down the hill I don't want everything to just be like oh I 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:54.880 bought a motherboard I know have a computer like I don't want that to 00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:59.200 happen why not it'll be cheaper but that's so lame and that will destroy 00:47:56.960 --> 00:48:02.359 like why we're here right now it'll be fast 00:48:00.319 --> 00:48:08.720 enough we can talk about which motherboard is the best and we'll have 00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:13.800 one product to talk about and it'll be a saber-tooth with a 3570k is that such a 00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:20.040 bad thing oh I don't know I mean okay look 00:48:17.200 --> 00:48:26.839 here think about it this way do you want the PC to succeed yeah 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:29.079 okay what do you see apple doing they 00:48:26.839 --> 00:48:32.960 profit last quarter was more than most of the rest of the entire PC industry 00:48:30.720 --> 00:48:36.920 all put together yeah but that's a specific statistic and I can throw a 00:48:34.640 --> 00:48:40.599 billion more okay but I think we can agree that they got there with 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:45.559 Simplicity Yeah by bundling things together by I mean honestly I think the 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:51.720 fact that Apple now has iPhone 5 iPhone 4S and iPhone 4 at three different price 00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:54.000 points is a huge stumble compared to 00:48:51.720 --> 00:48:58.240 what's made them so powerful because their whole thing was this is the phone 00:48:56.160 --> 00:49:02.359 this is the only phone you need buy this phone Nothing Else Matters that's been 00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:07.599 their whole thing if you want a desktop computer buy an iMac there's not many 00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:12.559 configurations don't worry it's what you need that's been their whole thing and 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:17.599 so if the PC is going to gain traction with the mainstream consumers where why 00:49:14.520 --> 00:49:20.359 did we lose all these Gamers to 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:25.720 consoles because they bought one thing and it ran everything we needed 00:49:22.720 --> 00:49:29.240 yeah how do we get them 00:49:25.720 --> 00:49:31.200 back I don't know so there I don't 00:49:29.240 --> 00:49:34.960 necess just to disclaim this guys I don't necessarily believe this is the 00:49:32.799 --> 00:49:39.240 best thing ever but that was my devil's advocate sort of here's why it's 00:49:37.359 --> 00:49:44.359 happening I think it sucks because losing like I think it's good because 00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:49.000 when you're building a computer for your buddy who doesn't care or when you're 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:53.920 building a computer for your mom or your your friends like oh I want to come play 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:57.760 Star Citizen with you guys when it's released and you're like all right man 00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:02.640 I'll build you this like whatever no big deal I'll build you an i7 ASUS yeah and 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:09.559 it'll have everything he needs yeah but then when I'm building a computer for myself I want to be able to pick 00:50:06.319 --> 00:50:10.880 everything Pony up I know and that's 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:17.920 that's the thing at the same time but then when like 16-year-old me or 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:24.280 16-year-old dude that messages me on Twitter is like I'm super into computers 00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:26.200 I love it I want to build one I'm going 00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:29.960 to have to be like yo get this kind of cop out pre-built thing because that's 00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:33.799 what it's going to be now it's pre-built systems but it'll be a better value for 00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:41.799 him I mean it's the same thing as it is with 1155 in 2011 today 1155 for 99% of 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:45.359 people will perform better yeah unless you're a high-end video editor graphic 00:50:43.640 --> 00:50:51.520 designer whatever else for your mom and your dad and your brother and yourself 00:50:48.359 --> 00:50:52.920 1155 literally performs better because 00:50:51.520 --> 00:50:58.559 it's mainstream enough that the economies of scale allow them to push 00:50:56.640 --> 00:51:03.040 the performance to to to to cycle the technology faster they can they can 00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:07.000 recoup their R&D investment faster and create a new chip and cycle it cycle it 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:10.359 cycle it whereas with 2011 because it's so Niche they have to have a longer 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:14.200 cycle that's just the way it works because and it could be good because 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:19.240 maybe more people will buy that level so it'll become less Niche so the Cycles 00:51:16.040 --> 00:51:22.319 will go faster but then replace the 00:51:19.240 --> 00:51:24.280 console yeah I freaking hope so but like 00:51:22.319 --> 00:51:28.880 I don't really see that happening because like the Bro aspect 00:51:26.839 --> 00:51:33.880 consoles is not going to go away no seriously though um and I just like I 00:51:31.799 --> 00:51:37.400 said earlier I don't want it to just be the first kick that starts the ball ring 00:51:35.799 --> 00:51:41.200 okay would a more standardized PC platform make for a better experience 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:46.440 even for yourself remember the first time oh no that was uh that was diesel 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:48.760 never mind okay um okay what if things 00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:53.799 were so standard that Windows was able to come with your usb3 driver it already 00:51:51.640 --> 00:51:57.480 does and you didn't Windows 8 does okay Windows 8 does fine whatever whatever 00:51:55.280 --> 00:52:01.359 the new thing is then whatever some new thing is that comes out what if because 00:51:59.960 --> 00:52:06.000 is that their plan with their little mini development the more integrated 00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:10.640 things we'll get the more integrated things will be you know I mean is that 00:52:08.200 --> 00:52:13.960 Microsoft's plan with their mini drops mini operating system drops oh 00:52:12.240 --> 00:52:17.680 potentially I don't know like I I only know what I said about that one before 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:21.280 so I'm not exactly sure but but will a more integrated experience be bad I 00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:26.760 don't I don't think so I just think it'll suck for the super super techy 00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:29.319 custom builder guys which is Who We Are 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:33.040 trying to but it'll drive down overhead at a retailer perspective at a system 00:52:31.359 --> 00:52:38.359 builder perspective a huge Global Perspective it's probably better for 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:40.480 like me I don't like it as much right 00:52:38.359 --> 00:52:44.359 okay well there you go guys I hope uh we actually haven't been looking at any 00:52:41.799 --> 00:52:47.319 tweets or any uh twitch chat so I hope you guys haven't been just kind of 00:52:45.520 --> 00:52:54.280 sitting there complaining that this is super boring 00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:55.680 um and uh yeah what Eddie said here well 00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:59.760 you have to show them what Eddie said geez so Eddie says he doesn't you know what 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:05.559 yeah let's take some of your comments on this discussion topic because I think this is really important um for the 00:53:03.200 --> 00:53:09.559 industry in general and for for every Enthusiast uh whether you whether you 00:53:07.680 --> 00:53:12.640 want to take sort of my devil's advocate side or whether you want to take slick 00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:16.839 side I mean quite frankly here actually okay a little bit more uh quite frankly 00:53:14.520 --> 00:53:20.680 my computer is an LGA 2011 not because it performs better for what I do because 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:26.799 it doesn't if I really wanted the best performance possible I'd get a 3770k 00:53:23.240 --> 00:53:29.000 just like everyone else um but because I 00:53:26.799 --> 00:53:33.520 wanted the baller platform I wanted the flexibility to put in as much RAM as I 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:37.880 wanted I wanted to have all those PCI Express Lanes just in case I decide I'm 00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:41.920 going to put a 10 gabit Nick in there and a raid card and a graphics card and 00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:46.040 a sound card and I wanted them all to have as much band with as they possibly 00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:52.319 could so the Enthusiast in me actually is mortified by all this yeah but we 00:53:50.040 --> 00:53:56.920 have to look at it from sort of a wider perspective than just our tunnel vision 00:53:54.799 --> 00:54:00.599 but then for our individual opinions we don't necessarily have to because this 00:53:58.359 --> 00:54:05.040 is what we think of it but that doesn't make for a very interesting discussion 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:11.599 because you'd basically say Broadwell is gonna suck ass and then I'd say all 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:13.520 right yeah just bump yeah I don't know 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:17.040 Kyle brings up a good point but I bring this up earlier yeah Kyle as a computer 00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:21.040 salesman I'd like to voice my opinion on the choice versus no somehow ask slick 00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.799 slick isn't even a computer salesman I'm more of a computer salesman than him oh 00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:29.000 cuz I actually worked as a computer salesman for six months worked as a 00:54:26.720 --> 00:54:34.040 computer salesman for like almost a year you were at Best Buy 00:54:30.799 --> 00:54:36.280 true yeah i' I've I was at NC I got 00:54:34.040 --> 00:54:40.799 people to buy not terrible computers I actually directed some people to ntx as 00:54:38.799 --> 00:54:48.760 well probably shouldn't have said on here but oh well cover me up good 00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:50.960 job okay then are but choice is always 00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:56.520 good though I agree with him no I disagree sometimes choice is destructive 00:54:53.680 --> 00:55:01.240 sometimes choice is actually bad because Choice leads people to buy dumb crap 00:54:59.359 --> 00:55:04.480 like eventually buy because they screw up and buy some super computer that's 00:55:02.799 --> 00:55:07.880 right but then people should be like intelligent and figure out that if they 00:55:05.839 --> 00:55:13.440 spent $400 on a computer and it didn't work for them that buying a $2,000 Mac 00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:16.319 is not actually the right logical 00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:20.440 process you own a Pontiac yeah CU I don't have that much money in 00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:23.039 general and it works it gives me from point A to point B so then if you had 00:55:21.839 --> 00:55:26.920 more money to spend on a car would you buy a Mercedes or maybe just something 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:29.920 better Honda I don't know not a Pontiac I wouldn't buy a Mercedes 00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:37.440 okay I forget where I was going with that hold on hold on no I was going somewhere with that the point was um 00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:40.920 shoot what were what were we talking about I don't know but apparently this 00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:45.480 guy thinks this topic is terrible and doesn't care about Intel 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:51.319 processors uh you know what uh hold on I'm trying 00:55:48.200 --> 00:55:52.839 to you're distracting me now TR trying 00:55:51.319 --> 00:55:58.079 to figure out what I was trying to say with the Pontiac thing you just don't 00:55:54.799 --> 00:55:59.760 like my car which is fine I really don't 00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:05.000 I totally hate your car it's stupid it's horrible I like my car 00:56:02.319 --> 00:56:09.760 um uh computer salesman and then we moved on to something something right 00:56:07.720 --> 00:56:12.920 right right too much choice is bad because it generates bad customer 00:56:11.680 --> 00:56:20.079 experiences but then they should just have better salesman yeah have you met any 00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:23.880 salesmen where are you going to find better 00:56:21.640 --> 00:56:28.359 salesman that's like saying they should have like they should have I don't know 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:32.920 that that's like saying do some form of training training is not the be all and 00:56:30.720 --> 00:56:37.319 end all but they should have some form of it how much training is there okay 00:56:34.799 --> 00:56:42.400 but how much training can you do when there's okay here like between Gigabyte 00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:46.839 MSI and ASUS alone and that's your like your one two three how many z77 boards 00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:51.119 do you think there are oh a ridiculous amount but you should have like at least 00:56:49.319 --> 00:56:55.480 30 like NC should have all their employees on a mailing list and when 00:56:53.359 --> 00:56:58.440 something new comes out there should be like you or or someone else should check 00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:01.680 it out and then tell them and they're going to remember that I mean think 00:57:00.359 --> 00:57:04.839 about the way it worked at Best Buy with something like an extended service plan 00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:08.480 where they had a sheet of paper and they could refer to things imagine if you had 00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:13.559 to put every motherboard and video card on that sheet of paper they would need 00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:15.160 like a microscope to read it and 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:18.240 sometimes the differences between all these motherboards are actually very 00:57:16.839 --> 00:57:25.440 difficult to figure out that's true you've run into this why is this one even more expensive and you can't tell 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:32.160 you literally can't tell so oh that doesn't even include ASRock biostar ECS 00:57:29.839 --> 00:57:36.079 EVGA why do we need this much choice for z77 motherboards we established earlier 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:41.720 on in the Stream that they all perform exactly the same I still like choice I still want to 00:57:39.839 --> 00:57:45.760 be able to pick what I want okay every single time personally you might think 00:57:44.280 --> 00:57:49.920 it's bad for some random person but again I'm pulling it back and saying that I'm answering this question on 00:57:48.240 --> 00:57:53.119 behalf of me and not be on behalf of that random person all right whereas I'm 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:56.880 taking I'm taking the Every Man's approach to this cuz I can figure out 00:57:54.799 --> 00:57:59.520 what motherboard I need yeah and I want to be able to figure out what 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:03.760 motherboard but based on how many people tweet me asking what motherboard to buy 00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:07.960 it's hard and if you weren't following it and keeping up with it but does that 00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:14.480 mean they don't want to it might be difficult but they might also enjoy 00:58:10.359 --> 00:58:16.319 it um yeah I mean I do so I can't say 00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:19.280 that no one does but I just don't think it's that likely are we going to get a 00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:22.760 heater for the garage no we're not because heat is expensive and he's just 00:58:21.160 --> 00:58:28.319 not worth it I'm going to bring my own jacket at some point in time so I don't have to that is an awesome jacket jacket 00:58:26.640 --> 00:58:32.039 what's wrong with you it's also like army camo green and the sleeves aren't 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:35.920 long enough it's digicam it goes along with our high-tech overall experience 00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:38.920 that we got going on here it's digital nice 00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:46.400 nice uh the people who care about the change don't care about the best value 00:58:45.319 --> 00:58:51.799 if it takes some of the fun out of building yeah I understand that uh the 00:58:49.359 --> 00:58:55.240 topic is terrible what is L is saying he wants to get rid of his entire job it 00:58:53.200 --> 00:58:58.400 won't get rid of my job at all I mean NC will still Tech stuff there will still 00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:04.160 be Tech stuff because remember we're talking about how all this all this um 00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:08.359 ease of manufacturer and all this Simplicity is going to turn the computer 00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:12.280 into something where like a great example is something like the expensive 00:59:10.359 --> 00:59:18.240 camera we just bought why isn't it running an Android operating system with 00:59:14.680 --> 00:59:20.280 you know a powerful quad core processor 00:59:18.240 --> 00:59:24.559 in it why isn't it running a Windows 8 operating 00:59:21.799 --> 00:59:28.520 system with a Next Generation or two gen three generations away core I3 in it 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:32.960 that would be awesome I mean compared to the kinds of garbage processors they're 00:59:30.319 --> 00:59:36.440 using in things like cameras today I mean imagine if we could put a PC 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:40.520 processor in there the amount of flexibility I mean we could start 00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:43.359 writing custom firmwares for cameras and stuff but then why don't they just do 00:59:41.799 --> 00:59:48.000 three sockets would it really cost that much more yes a socket costs a fortune 00:59:46.240 --> 00:59:53.760 Intel's balling though I know but why would they waste they don't you don't get balling by wasting money yeah I know 00:59:51.760 --> 00:59:56.640 a socket costs a fortune in validation and the ecosystem you have to build 00:59:55.039 --> 01:00:00.559 around if they move into all those other devices I'm sure they're making their money well yeah they're making their 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:05.280 money but they're making their money by keeping everything BGA solder it on 01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:08.000 solder it on solder it on solder it on and like what's to stop them from we 01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:13.079 probably shouldn't talk about this topic for literally ever but what's to stop them from doing it to 2011 at some point 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:17.200 or whatever 20111 turns into oh they probably will but we're like 5 10 20 01:00:15.520 --> 01:00:22.400 years away from that hopefully because there will always be that need for for a 01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:27.119 high-end workstation that market will always exist it'll just be Niche I 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:30.880 wonder if this will make AMD more viable 01:00:27.119 --> 01:00:32.920 I don't know I don't personally think so 01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:38.720 personally think it will unless AMD goes for some gigantic push and they could 01:00:37.359 --> 01:00:43.119 yeah and if they go for some gigantic push and they go like oh we're in the Enthusiast processor now and they make a 01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:48.160 big push and they actually make viable processors in the high tier range then 01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:51.799 or in at a low cost but slightly higher than what they're doing now but that 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:57.440 it's unlocked and you can overclock it you can there is room for them to 01:00:54.160 --> 01:00:59.599 reinvent themselves as that cool company 01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:05.559 yeah um where Intel will be like that corporate company so let's see they have 01:01:02.520 --> 01:01:08.079 to last that long yeah exactly yeah 01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:12.000 everyone I know is gaming on Xbox will buy PC you need PC be a game that 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:16.119 everyone needs yeah I hope Star Citizen is that game I'm super excited about 01:01:13.680 --> 01:01:19.880 that there's a couple possibly big games can be Robert you can use a controller 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:25.079 on a PC Xbox 360 works just fine Xbox 360 01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:31.760 controller works just fine on a PC just get an adapter on yeah and if you're I'm not sure if he's 01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:33.000 using handicapped as a exact term or not 01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:37.720 if you are actually handicapped you can get things like uh ocz Nia oh come on 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:42.000 that thing's stupid though no no but have you seen the paragan yeah that 01:01:40.359 --> 01:01:46.240 thing's awesome that thing's cool Nia super cheap though yeah but the Nia does 01:01:44.240 --> 01:01:51.039 and it works you just suck at it parag is way cooler yeah I agree have 01:01:49.359 --> 01:01:56.559 you have you seen the video so if you guys don't know what the paragan is it's a glove you wear that has contact points 01:01:55.240 --> 01:02:00.880 all over the side I think you can do what 30 commands I don't know how many I 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:03.880 think it's here here and here and then your thumb just connects them all yeah 01:02:02.319 --> 01:02:08.160 so you can do up to I think it's 30 different commands by just touching your 01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:11.440 thumb to various fingers on the uh and there's there's like uh conductive 01:02:09.640 --> 01:02:14.960 control pads on them and so they were showing someone gaming in a game like 01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:18.160 League of Legends so instead of having this mouse on a keyboard you actually 01:02:16.839 --> 01:02:24.359 just kind of have it beside you like this you got your mouse hand and you just go you know for whatever spell or 01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:26.960 hotkey you want to hit and and uh there's Pro Gamers claiming that it 01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:31.039 actually makes them faster than if they use a keyboard because they never have to look it's all muscle memory just 01:02:29.279 --> 01:02:35.839 think go like that I haven't seen any of them actually doing it in a tournament 01:02:32.920 --> 01:02:40.839 but I'm that yet I used it at packs and it is like it's fairly okay quick like 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:43.119 it's not super slow I personally find I'd be way faster with the keyboard 01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:47.760 because then all your fingers are currently resting on the keys but you're more used to it but I'm more used to it 01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:51.880 too but then this means that you have to move your thumb to each individual key 01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:56.319 if you're representing your fingers as keys this way your fingers are all keys 01:02:54.119 --> 01:03:00.520 I know but your fingers resling on the keys is not moving your fingers at all 01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:07.400 unless you have to move your finger and press a key which is never remember like 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:09.559 30 Keys though q w e r no no I mean but 01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:12.440 but if you could hit 30 like this like let's say you needed a wider variety 01:03:11.160 --> 01:03:18.720 because for like a different game other than yeah on a keyboard I'd say there's 01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:19.960 probably DF reload see Q is tough as 01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:23.839 soon as you get into the ring finger pinky finger it's tough there's probably 01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:26.520 like 10 to 12 keys that I can hit as quickly as I could do this definitely 01:03:25.160 --> 01:03:30.760 cool like if you shoulder problems and stuff you can keep your ARM down off the 01:03:28.160 --> 01:03:33.640 table and use it so I I asked for a demo unit that's cool so hopefully we can get 01:03:32.359 --> 01:03:38.559 our hands on it and check it out and let you guys know what we actually think after extended use but uh yeah paragan 01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.680 very very cool um should I get the 2500k or wait 01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:48.119 for Haswell get a 3570k or 2500k I mean honestly I I don't 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:51.480 know how much faster Haswell will be I don't think anyone does right now yeah 01:03:50.279 --> 01:03:56.200 uh doesn't that make it just another console the point of PC is the customization the software customization 01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.599 will always be there though which is the difference between PC and console and 01:03:57.720 --> 01:04:04.319 you can still be specific about your RAM you can still be specific about your 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:05.880 graphics card it's yeah Dyan asks why 01:04:04.319 --> 01:04:11.359 did you move lonus Tech tips into your garage um because we have a new set for 01:04:09.279 --> 01:04:16.079 ncx Tech tips but there actually isn't a ton of space in there and uh and I've 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:20.279 also had some other projects going I don't know if you've seen my Techquickie channel so if you're following 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:24.839 me on Twitter you've probably seen some of my tweets about it or maybe you missed them but I have some other 01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:31.760 different video projects that I'm working on as well so that's part of the reason why I need something resembling a 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:36.880 studio space here at home uh you want to blame something for the downfall blame 01:04:33.279 --> 01:04:39.319 the first Xbox yeah yep oh yeah for sure 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:43.160 no no doubt when building for me it'll be different from building for my mom 01:04:40.720 --> 01:04:46.960 which I could get yep y totally agree Sean um I think Slick's right imagine 01:04:45.520 --> 01:04:51.359 five years down the road and everyone has a high-end PC there's nothing unique about PCS anymore but imagine 5 years 01:04:50.279 --> 01:04:57.559 down the road when everyone has a high-end PC now they can develop a game 01:04:53.799 --> 01:04:59.799 that only runs on a highend PC 01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:03.920 There You Go part of the reason for it again actually I didn't even cover that 01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:08.480 before okay you know what let's move on to the uh let's move on to the next oh 01:05:07.200 --> 01:05:15.680 actually I got one question here I want to answer Sean sometimes I I will take an 01:05:13.720 --> 01:05:20.640 alternative position to what I actually feel like in my heart because there are 01:05:18.640 --> 01:05:24.119 reasons that go beyond my feelings for why things work the way they do Devil's 01:05:22.160 --> 01:05:28.599 Advocate you got bring up the other side of the argument so that the argument 01:05:25.680 --> 01:05:32.920 which isn't boring and if we don't understand both sides then we're just 01:05:30.319 --> 01:05:36.920 Fanboys yeah so you have to try to understand why com from why does the 01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:40.319 world work the way it does I can still feel the way I do I you know what I mean 01:05:38.839 --> 01:05:45.640 you guys ask me this all the time and I usually won't tell you do I have a 01:05:43.240 --> 01:05:51.240 favorite of something like is do I have a favorite brand of motherboard yes I do 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:54.359 but I can't let that I can't let that get in the way of being objective 01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:57.680 because I think it's not fair to you guys um so here find another topic for 01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:06.960 us I'm going to go see if I've got anything over there and we'll move right along scy oh yeah okay go another sad 01:06:03.240 --> 01:06:09.520 Topic in my opinion uh Scythe the makers 01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:15.119 of gentle typhoon and many other fans and many other heat shuriken and Shen 01:06:12.680 --> 01:06:20.839 chuzi or whatever they've called all the like best names for all the different 01:06:16.799 --> 01:06:23.240 things uh they're Us North America 01:06:20.839 --> 01:06:28.440 branch just went out a business so this isn't very applicable to anyone else out 01:06:25.559 --> 01:06:31.880 out of North America because Scythe in all those locations is still running 01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:35.400 just fine but the North America branches out of business so if you want some 01:06:33.640 --> 01:06:40.760 AR15s you might want to pick those up quick um that's very sad for me because 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:48.319 my by far favorite fans for at least 120 mm is AR-15s they're 1850 RPM 120 mm 01:06:45.720 --> 01:06:54.960 fans and that means I'm going to buy a small stack of them and then hor 01:06:51.400 --> 01:06:56.640 them um but yeah that's kind of crappy 01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:59.599 but like I said for anyone outside of North America it doesn't matter because 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:03.799 Scythe is doing just fine you know what this comes down to Too Much Choice was 01:07:01.520 --> 01:07:07.359 bad not really actually it's because the parent company closed down it wasn't 01:07:05.640 --> 01:07:12.720 even scyth USA it's the guys that owned Scythe USA so nah I bet if it' been more 01:07:11.240 --> 01:07:16.319 profitable the parent company wouldn't have had to close down yeah but that was 01:07:14.279 --> 01:07:23.240 like one of their smaller companies I bet site that been okay 01:07:19.720 --> 01:07:26.480 fine uh I'm trying to find some of the 01:07:23.240 --> 01:07:29.480 Twitter topics that I that I sent to 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:32.480 myself virtue oh someone asked us to 01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.480 discuss um 01:07:33.520 --> 01:07:40.200 virtue okay like Lucid logic's virtue oh 01:07:37.200 --> 01:07:42.799 okay yeah not virtue I was like what 01:07:40.200 --> 01:07:47.559 it's like yeah slick and I have uh we're going to start wearing Purity rings and 01:07:45.839 --> 01:07:52.200 um we really think that if you guys Support lus Tech tips then um you should 01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:55.799 wear Purity rings and if you're tuning in right now just to hear me say that I 01:07:54.319 --> 01:07:59.279 really really hope you didn't tune out immediately I'm going to explain so 01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:03.599 Lucid logic's virtue does a number of different things um although the context 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:07.599 that this guy was asking about it in was remember when we first saw the news of 01:08:05.680 --> 01:08:12.079 virtue and we were going to be able to run multi-GPU with AMD and NVIDIA 01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:16.319 graphics card mismatch generations of graphics 01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:18.640 cards um why hasn't that taken off in 01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:22.520 your estimation didn't NVIDIA get super pissed off okay yeah inia got super but 01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:26.560 hurt about it yeah they did not want that to happen yep they want to control 01:08:24.839 --> 01:08:29.440 the SLI EOS system remember what they did to the Big Bang X power I do 01:08:28.080 --> 01:08:32.759 remember they did to the Big Bang X power Marshall bang Marshall yeah big 01:08:31.719 --> 01:08:39.920 bang Marshall do you guys remember the Big Bang Marshall it was like an XL ATX 01:08:36.839 --> 01:08:44.279 1155 55 board yeah it was a p-55 board 01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:46.759 wasn't it I think so I think so p67 I 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:51.960 don't know whatever LDA 1155 board that was XL ATX that had seven PCI Express 01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:57.159 16x slots and it had Lucid logic's virtue so that or no not virtue it had 01:08:54.480 --> 01:09:00.480 Hydra Hydra yeah um their first I think it was their first yeah it was called 01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:03.719 Hydra sorry so where you could in theory run seven graphics cards and have them 01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:10.319 all stack together and make for better performance and NVIDIA actually blocked 01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:11.799 quad SLI and I think triple SLI trip all 01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:15.719 you could do is dual SLI yeah you could just do dual SLI on this board in spite 01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:22.159 of the fact that it had seven PCI s PCI slots two graphics cards 01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:26.880 yay um I don't know when I first saw it I basically went this is never going to 01:09:23.480 --> 01:09:29.679 work yeah because it's asking for way 01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:35.279 too much that's when I saw it I assumed that You' get like terrible returns yeah 01:09:33.759 --> 01:09:42.359 I mean you know what's funny though is they when they optimized it fully for 01:09:38.199 --> 01:09:44.600 something like 3D Mark 11 yeah it 01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:49.960 actually delivered pretty crazy results you could see it like it was working 01:09:47.279 --> 01:09:54.679 however the problem with that comes down to games there's so many games they're 01:09:53.040 --> 01:09:59.480 all so different there's always a new patch yeah I mean when I when I was like 01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:04.960 okay the reason this can't work is because they would need a driver team as 01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:08.880 big at least as nvidias yeah yeah because you look at how hard it is for 01:10:06.440 --> 01:10:13.600 AMD and NVIDIA alone to make sure that you don't see random graphical artifacts 01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:19.560 all over your screen so why is it that some like small company wasn't able to 01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:23.040 do more than them and like bring more together than them well I think it seems 01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:26.760 fairly obvious pretty straightforward I've had people like tell me they want 01:10:24.679 --> 01:10:32.040 to buy a mother board with with uh with Hydra and I'm just like yeah don't worry 01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:35.600 about it uh virtue MVP however does a couple of cool things so that allows 01:10:33.880 --> 01:10:39.520 notebook like switching between your dedicated graphics and your integrated 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:43.080 GPU there very small performance hit very very small but you can use your 01:10:41.080 --> 01:10:48.239 integrated GPU for video transcoding you can use your dedic dedicated dedicated 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:52.159 graphics card for gaming uh it also allows a couple of other features so one 01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:57.760 of them is a performance boost one that in theory like together yeah no what 01:10:55.400 --> 01:11:01.640 does is it puts texture duties on your onboard GPU because that's easy and it's 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:06.320 just memory intensive and then it does something else but it 01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:10.159 just so sketchy yeah we used it and it worked for like one game yeah and then 01:11:08.120 --> 01:11:12.960 just like didn't and like caused performance degradation in other ones 01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:18.000 and then I think the other one is something to do with vsync but when we were using we were mainly using an Intel 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:23.880 platform right yes I've heard it's a lot more 01:11:20.719 --> 01:11:26.280 stable on AMD platforms weird with APU 01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:30.360 and a graphic card I I know that's weird and I haven't done it myself obviously 01:11:28.120 --> 01:11:34.679 but I've read that it's much more stable okay but who cares I yeah I know I 01:11:32.679 --> 01:11:38.719 definitely agree I have a lot of people ask me about what used to be called 01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:43.639 hybrid Crossfire where you have an APU so you'd have an AMD CPU with an onboard 01:11:41.120 --> 01:11:47.560 GPU and then a low-end graphics card and you can Crossfire them together for a 01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:52.719 performance boost people are like oh what graphics card should I get a 6670 01:11:49.719 --> 01:11:56.560 with my Apu and I'm just like oh dude oh 01:11:52.719 --> 01:11:59.639 dude just oh dude no um Apu is good for 01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:01.080 onboard Graphics fantastic destroys 01:11:59.639 --> 01:12:06.440 anything from Intel if you're looking to build a super basic machine get an APU 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:12.040 if you want to play any games at all done if you want to have a dedicated 01:12:09.280 --> 01:12:18.280 graphics gaming experience buy a dedicated graphics card don't try to 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:22.360 like it's like it's like someone deciding they want a car and they like 01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:28.280 staple two motorcycles together it's like will it work will it 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:31.760 move in a direction maybe should you do 01:12:28.280 --> 01:12:33.840 it no no it's like but motorcycles are 01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:40.440 so cheap you can buy three of them and staple them 01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:42.600 together just no spend $100 $100 is the 01:12:40.440 --> 01:12:45.600 bare minimum to spend on a graphics card any less than that and you're getting a 01:12:44.480 --> 01:12:51.920 terrible value buy a real graphics card end of 01:12:48.440 --> 01:12:55.159 story so there it's been said 01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:57.480 now that's actually a great analogy 01:12:55.159 --> 01:13:03.639 stapling motorcycles together it's just like so ridiculous Franken 01:13:00.400 --> 01:13:07.560 Contraption um okay so that was my topic 01:13:03.639 --> 01:13:10.880 what was your next topic uh let me 01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:12.960 see there's useless human babies useless 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:18.000 human this is you know what you know what inspired this topic is my 01:13:15.679 --> 01:13:24.600 baby oh right no I remember where we were going with that topic though old 01:13:19.719 --> 01:13:26.320 school RPG Mages yes so humans actually 01:13:24.600 --> 01:13:31.120 you know what no this was your point you make the point okay I brought up that a 01:13:28.719 --> 01:13:35.040 baby dolphin immediately upon being born knows to immediately go to the surface 01:13:32.760 --> 01:13:37.600 and get air and human babies are just pretty much generally useless at 01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:43.159 everything they ever try and do for a really really long time my baby was trying to eat in this high chair with 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:47.960 his hands for the first time which is cute but ineffective the mess was 01:13:45.480 --> 01:13:54.280 literally the entire span of both of his arms and like up the side of his head 01:13:50.480 --> 01:13:57.440 into his hair with like a p uh like like 01:13:54.280 --> 01:14:01.280 not pee but like peas peas peas bananas 01:13:57.440 --> 01:14:03.360 pea banana and uh and uh like baby 01:14:01.280 --> 01:14:11.000 cereal yeah and it was just like all over the place which like I said is cute 01:14:07.480 --> 01:14:14.960 but yeah um compared to most other 01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:16.159 babies animals they're we kind of suck 01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:21.440 yeah they never stood a chance so I brought that up and then I came up with the analogy that we're kind of like 01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:24.800 Mages in old school RPG games well no cuz we were talking dolphins and I was 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:28.000 like right right if dolphins are so smart then why don't they figure out how 01:14:26.480 --> 01:14:33.560 to walk on land we figured out how to swim and I brought up that they don't 01:14:29.760 --> 01:14:35.120 have opposable thumbs okay so then 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:40.159 whatever so and you kept on bringing up more things and I just kept on saying 01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:41.920 opposable thumbs well yeah because you 01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:44.880 know what no if they were so smart they would find a way to win they would find 01:14:43.400 --> 01:14:47.679 a way around it because he think he thinks they're smarter than us which 01:14:46.480 --> 01:14:51.360 apparently it's been proven that they're smarter but they can't do a lot of things because they don't have a posable 01:14:50.199 --> 01:14:56.040 thumb so they can't like then they're not that smart how how does Smart have 01:14:53.719 --> 01:15:00.520 to do with your physical form well we figured out how to like kick Tigers 01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:04.320 thumbs I don't think we figured out how to have opposable THB a man can kill a 01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:07.600 tiger even though a tiger is much more powerful tool that he makes with 01:15:05.480 --> 01:15:10.159 opposable thumbs chimps have opposable thumbs 01:15:10.679 --> 01:15:15.520 yeah I could take a chimp they're not nearly as smart as us though but they 01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:20.400 have a but they have a posable thumb yeah 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:23.960 okay so what's your point which they're kind of lame but are able to survive 01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:28.920 because they have imposable thums where are you even going with this 01:15:26.440 --> 01:15:34.679 where this is you okay so humans so humans start out 01:15:31.719 --> 01:15:40.120 useless but then later on in life they get totally op completely imba because 01:15:38.080 --> 01:15:42.760 they they're like old school RPG Mages they suck at the beginning and they're 01:15:41.600 --> 01:15:47.560 horrible to play and they're really annoying but then once you level up a whole bunch all the Warriors are 01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:52.280 terrible and you're amazing and overpowered Diablo 1 is a great example 01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:56.199 of that like you you die in like two hits at the beginning if you're a mage 01:15:54.400 --> 01:15:59.719 but then by end of it you just like walk around with a staff of apocalypse and 01:15:57.800 --> 01:16:02.040 you're just like right click right click right click right you never actually 01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:06.400 have to go in the room you just walk around with like your BS Mana shield and 01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:11.159 it's just like the the the Warriors are just like well I actually can't have 01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:17.080 that much health cuz like the game maxed it and 01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:19.520 stuff yeah Everest one was also a really 01:16:17.080 --> 01:16:22.520 good example of that and like balur skate ice Dale are both really good 01:16:21.080 --> 01:16:29.080 examples of that you know what was hilarious Fable one I literally had like 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.719 two spells that I used so I had like a 01:16:29.080 --> 01:16:33.639 knockback or something and then I had an area of effect or something stup or 01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:37.600 maybe it was just one area of effect spell and it was just like yeah this is 01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:40.600 this is all I you know I don't think I can think of even a modern game where 01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:45.280 Mages aren't just kind of stupid overpowered just the whole time yeah not 01:16:43.080 --> 01:16:48.040 really I mean Magic's just like it used to be the thing where it was like okay 01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:53.600 do I want to have the beginning of this game really easy I'll play Warrior but I'll suck 01:16:52.120 --> 01:16:57.199 later on or do I want the beginning of this game to be really hard 01:16:55.400 --> 01:17:02.080 I'll play a Mage and I'll be awesome later on I wonder what it'll be like an 01:16:59.120 --> 01:17:05.880 imba class in something like Star Citizen is there really classes though 01:17:04.440 --> 01:17:11.719 kind of it's just the type of ship that you fly is it just the type of ship that you f I'm I'm not sure but if it's like 01:17:09.679 --> 01:17:15.280 Eve it's more the type of ship in the race that you fly in the race but then 01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:18.560 you can learn the skills for other races so it doesn't really matter it just 01:17:17.280 --> 01:17:22.320 takes more time have you learn a skill for a race I mean you just like you just 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:26.840 read their book you just put one foot in front of the other and you try to get 01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:26.840 there first 01:17:32.400 --> 01:17:36.650 next that's a horrible 01:17:35.639 --> 01:17:45.239 joke um what else you got we've got 01:17:41.719 --> 01:17:47.360 applications or apps oh yeah but you 01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:52.679 ruin all the punch lines so um the App Store thing Windows 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:56.920 App Store yeah yeah so Windows has an app store and I think a lot of people 01:17:54.040 --> 01:18:01.360 have been kind of like uh well we were talking about developers yeah so we were 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:06.920 talking about sort of what a programmer makes these days and uh and I made the 01:18:04.080 --> 01:18:10.440 point that an app programmer will get paid more inherently because they on 01:18:08.639 --> 01:18:17.760 their resume they put they're an app programmer um so yes so luk 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:17.760 slick 01:18:18.320 --> 01:18:25.480 Bazinga whatever done now it's live how many 01:18:22.320 --> 01:18:29.159 people are watching 19900 uh 01:18:25.480 --> 01:18:29.159 um yeah that 01:18:29.480 --> 01:18:35.320 programmers um what what were we 01:18:33.400 --> 01:18:40.600 awkward uh right right right so they make more inherently because they they 01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:42.080 make apps and uh even though I can't 01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:45.199 imagine what's what's different about programming an app versus programming 01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:50.199 like anything else it's the same language you're just locked down yes 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:54.360 okay so is it any different programming an app for a phone than it is 01:18:51.920 --> 01:18:59.080 programming an app for like Windows 8 or well it's like I said it's different 01:18:55.639 --> 01:19:01.840 language okay but a lot of this skilles 01:18:59.080 --> 01:19:06.280 you're Los you're using like uh sdks and stuff but you use sdks for a lot of 01:19:03.679 --> 01:19:10.360 stuff you build for desktops and systems as well so it doesn't really matter okay 01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:15.760 so a lot of people seem upset about the app store for Windows 8 or we can't call 01:19:12.480 --> 01:19:17.239 it app store because uh Amazon did that 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:21.760 and then Apple tried to sue them and then the judge was just like screw you 01:19:19.679 --> 01:19:24.800 no one cares is that what happened yeah a I never I never paid attention 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:29.320 basically just threw it out he was like like no it's a freaking app store you 01:19:26.400 --> 01:19:32.800 can just leave it alone huh they I think everyone's just kind of sick and tired 01:19:30.480 --> 01:19:37.480 of Apple just trying to sue everyone all the time okay so what's the difference 01:19:35.320 --> 01:19:43.800 between an app and an application there isn't one so what's so okay so an app is 01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:48.440 short for application so so basically what you're trying to say then is the 01:19:45.400 --> 01:19:50.280 app store has always existed yes because 01:19:48.440 --> 01:19:52.719 you just download things from websites but apps are 01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:58.960 cheaper that m really which apps aren't 01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:03.800 cheaper I don't know what can you compare really well you go like average 01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:08.960 like a professionally developed application but it's US versus a 01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:11.040 professionally developed app they're the 01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:16.320 same thing if you bring it up that way but if you bring it say okay if you say 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:18.440 something from the iTunes app store or 01:20:16.320 --> 01:20:22.639 downloading from a website if you get like they have Photoshop I could argue 01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:27.480 app is actually short for apple and not application but it's not 01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:33.199 it could be but it's not it could be a double meaning 01:20:29.320 --> 01:20:34.960 no it's just not app store Apple Store 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:37.719 but it's not it means application they don't have anything else called an Apple 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:43.440 store oh my God they don't what that took me a 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:48.360 second to process of course they do they should just call their stores 01:20:46.080 --> 01:20:51.239 app stores they actually should that would be that would actually be kind of 01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:57.960 amazing yeah it would and you can go there and you can buy apps or you can buy apps you like Al buy an app you can 01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:01.840 get a box for your app so we've always had app stores at the end of the day 01:20:59.400 --> 01:21:04.960 it's called a retail store yeah um you can buy software there yeah you can buy 01:21:03.440 --> 01:21:09.360 software there although it's kind of stupid yeah no one does that anymore 01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:13.040 yeah no one does that anymore this this this will be like a great uh this would 01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:16.960 be a great like Twitter question um when's the last time you guys bought 01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:20.080 software at a retail store that's happening to games what I think is going 01:21:18.719 --> 01:21:23.560 to happen is I don't think games are actually going to be sold I think it's 01:21:22.400 --> 01:21:28.719 just going to be like if you buy a special edition you can get Hardware 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:31.880 when you buy a game right I think pretty damn soon games are all going to be 01:21:30.520 --> 01:21:35.639 digital and then special editions are going to be the only way you get actually a physical thing well you know 01:21:34.400 --> 01:21:40.600 what's been one of my favorite things to do over the last five or six years every 01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:48.000 time I go to the mall in sir I swing by the EB Games and the only thing I do 01:21:43.639 --> 01:21:50.960 there is I see how big the PC section 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:54.639 is it's at the point now where I was at I was at the source like I kind of I 01:21:52.840 --> 01:22:02.080 kind of do this I just I'm just curious at the source they had four games on the 01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:04.280 Shelf they had a couple Generations ago 01:22:02.080 --> 01:22:09.719 WoW expansion it was like cataclysm or something they had Starcraft 01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:15.520 2 they had Diablo Three yeah Diablo 3 and then they 01:22:13.320 --> 01:22:22.360 had like one other game or something like that it was like four or five games 01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:24.840 and they had one copy of each that was 01:22:22.360 --> 01:22:28.199 it I think the last game was like a Bethesda title or something like it was 01:22:26.600 --> 01:22:32.760 like it was an RPG or something might have been other Scrolls or Fallout 01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:36.120 something like that and I was like wow 01:22:32.760 --> 01:22:37.800 it's dead yeah it's totally dead yeah 01:22:36.120 --> 01:22:42.280 well it's like people are still buying it but they just don't care like if you're buying Starcraft you're just 01:22:40.080 --> 01:22:45.400 downloading off battle that.net you're buying if you're buying a Bethesda game 01:22:44.080 --> 01:22:50.400 you're probably just downloading it from Steam so if you're Microsoft why don't 01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:56.239 you just stop selling physical games for Xbox what's the point what's the point 01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:57.760 of a physical medium capacity right now 01:22:56.239 --> 01:23:01.199 Xbox hard drive capacity as far as I know isn't that awesome okay and then 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:05.639 the only reason for limiting hard drive capacity would be to prevent piracy in 01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:09.600 theory no I think it's just like if you bought one of the original Xboxes their 01:23:07.080 --> 01:23:14.480 hard drives were only like 20 to 40 gigs now you can get bigger ones with the 01:23:11.400 --> 01:23:16.880 elites and the newer ones they're still 01:23:14.480 --> 01:23:19.239 small yeah they're still really small why can't I just plug in a USB hard 01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:24.920 drive that's what I've never really understood I mean I love how Nintendo's 01:23:22.120 --> 01:23:30.520 uh Nintendo's whole DRM thing for the Wii U involves because Nintendo still 01:23:27.719 --> 01:23:34.560 ties your downloadable purchases to the hardware not to user account you know 01:23:32.360 --> 01:23:39.600 that right yeah so basically there's this drawn out process where you like 01:23:37.360 --> 01:23:43.000 transfer your Hardware from your Wii to your Wii U and like all the accounts 01:23:41.280 --> 01:23:47.159 kind of go over and if you screw it up at any point during it I think it gets 01:23:44.480 --> 01:23:52.320 really complicated and I don't remember where I was going with this no idea 01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:56.840 right why don't they just let me put like a 64 gig SD card in my stupid thing 01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:02.360 and like a big old 3 terb hard drive over USB I think just because you can 01:23:59.760 --> 01:24:07.960 plug it into a PC really easily okay can't really plug an Xbox R 01:24:05.639 --> 01:24:12.920 drive into a PC very easily I like you can but I think it's like this weird so 01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:14.199 piracy prevention thing yeah okay so 01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:18.880 then that's my assumption I don't actually know but makes sense to me once 01:24:16.120 --> 01:24:22.280 again piracy prevention just destroys what could be good and makes it bad you 01:24:20.639 --> 01:24:28.880 know there was I think it was like five or 10 years ago now um but there was 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:32.960 this a bunch of I think three Engineers or something like that from Microsoft 01:24:30.480 --> 01:24:38.320 that were working on DRM stuff like the whole idea behind DRM just all were like 01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:41.440 this is just not going to work they're like this will not work people will 01:24:40.040 --> 01:24:44.679 always find a way around it and they almost got fired for it didn't actually 01:24:43.040 --> 01:24:49.239 get fired and then they just totally right people will always find a way and 01:24:47.080 --> 01:24:53.560 people are like oh PC sales are dying because people pirate stuff are you 01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:58.600 kidding me of course but then look at consoles too 01:24:55.840 --> 01:25:02.080 consoles are so easy to Pirate okay they might be easier to Pirate but I would 01:25:00.040 --> 01:25:09.360 argue that the average console user is less capable of pirating that's true no 01:25:04.840 --> 01:25:10.840 offense guys I'm sorry actually okay oh 01:25:09.360 --> 01:25:15.480 oh the viewers are tanking the viewers are tanking no one's okay I'm sorry I'm 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:20.480 sorry console's okay oh the viewers are tanking again all the PC I'm going to 01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:24.960 alienate the entire audience but I would argue that sort of lowest lowest common 01:25:22.480 --> 01:25:30.440 denominator console users are not as Tech savy no I agree yeah but then like 01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:36.560 like sorry mind my language but Rockstar Games not releasing freaking 01:25:33.320 --> 01:25:37.880 GTA 5 on PC because they're like oh 01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:42.159 there's too many Pirates it's not worth it what yeah that mean it's not like 01:25:40.679 --> 01:25:45.960 they didn't sell enough to cover how much it cost to Port a game yeah like 01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:49.520 are you kidding me you're just porting it you think there's not enough people 01:25:47.719 --> 01:25:55.520 that are going to buy it like it's a joke you know what's the one that I find 01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:58.199 most offensive I like Halo one I won't I 01:25:55.520 --> 01:26:03.159 won't play it on an Xbox because playing Shooters on a controller is stupid yeah 01:26:01.159 --> 01:26:07.679 um Halo 2 I played through like three quarters of the campaign I didn't enjoy 01:26:04.480 --> 01:26:10.040 it that much Halo 1 I loved Halo 1 01:26:07.679 --> 01:26:14.199 ending of the campaign Halo 1 Co-op is like the one of the greatest why wasn't 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:19.400 I ever able to play co-op first of all what why why can't I play co-op 01:26:16.639 --> 01:26:25.119 campaigns on a PC there's like two games Co-op is like a given on a console 01:26:22.719 --> 01:26:28.400 yeah and I mean the co-op experience on split screen is stupid and then what 01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:34.920 what are you going to do you're going to drag a bunch of consoles together and daisy chain them 01:26:31.880 --> 01:26:36.800 like see and then like put like four TVs 01:26:34.920 --> 01:26:44.520 in the like it's just stupid it's a terrible user experience I try so hard 01:26:39.480 --> 01:26:45.960 to find co-op games yes um it's so 01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:50.119 difficult like alien Swarm was one that was kind of fun that was a free game 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:55.320 okay but but anyway so the one that I find most offensive is the one if you I 01:26:53.400 --> 01:27:00.119 was going to pick one company that should be the most committed to the PC 01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:04.800 platform that should be willing to sort of bite the bullet on a couple people 01:27:02.320 --> 01:27:09.920 who download the game it should be Microsoft yeah yeah they have had every 01:27:07.679 --> 01:27:15.560 chance over the last 10 years to save the PC as a gaming platform yeah and 01:27:12.280 --> 01:27:17.679 they have not only not enabled others to 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:24.280 to to support it but they have totally abandoned it themselves well they didn't 01:27:20.480 --> 01:27:26.440 own halo for a while they do now right 01:27:24.280 --> 01:27:30.840 right so so where's my Halo 4 where's my Halo 3 for that matter did they own it 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:33.800 for Halo 3 I don't know I don't care I don't think they did okay where's my 01:27:32.040 --> 01:27:38.520 Halo 4 I could totally be wrong I'm not that good with consoles but yeah I know 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:42.440 right where's my Halo 4 though I don't know it's not not yet was that Halo was 01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:45.840 that I thought it was Hal just got released I'm really bad with conso I 01:27:44.360 --> 01:27:49.560 thought it was one of their named things like and whatever fired cuz I don't 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:53.880 something to console yeah our viewers want to know about 01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:58.400 actually I don't think they do I actually played it I played the new Halo it's actually pretty this probably looks 01:27:56.920 --> 01:28:01.800 really inappropriate for a console game oh yeah Sor it's it's a mouse there's 01:28:00.639 --> 01:28:07.560 show them the mouse pad show them the mouse pad thank you there's a reason for 01:28:05.639 --> 01:28:11.800 that okay you know what why don't we do Twitter Q&A for the last oh wow two 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:15.520 minutes um did you have any other like killer topics that we had to cover not 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:18.719 really I don't think okay sorry guys this is going to look inappropriate 01:28:19.400 --> 01:28:26.239 again no just what you do when the internet is out and artificial product 01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:30.199 differentiation artificial oh yeah I hate artificial product different we'll 01:28:27.679 --> 01:28:33.560 talk about that next week okay okay some people would bought it on a PC would 01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:36.600 have to get it for console said the Twitter questions might want to change 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:41.960 the focus of your camera slightly to the foreground you know what it's on auto I should probably just send it to manual 01:28:39.679 --> 01:28:47.159 you're right can't believe split screen hasn't killed the console I know right I 01:28:44.440 --> 01:28:51.840 mean like remember oh you're too young did you play uh did you play7 goldm on 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:56.040 n6 are you kidding me of course I did I still have it yeah that was pretty good 01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:59.960 four controllers play it all the time can you imagine if you'd been able to 01:28:58.199 --> 01:29:04.600 play that with like dedicated screens for so 01:29:01.320 --> 01:29:08.600 epic like 01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:11.480 like back to Twitter questions okay Xbox 01:29:08.600 --> 01:29:16.920 is pirated someone owns your coat I'm sorry like that is my coat I got 01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:20.159 something nice way to go Taylor get on with the topic man and get rid of slick 01:29:18.440 --> 01:29:24.840 he blows I think that's the same guy as before yeah you blow no yeah same 01:29:22.639 --> 01:29:27.520 different why hasn't physical media move from optical disc to flash drive digital 01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:31.480 is decent but Broadband isn't always cheaper available um flash drive is 01:29:29.840 --> 01:29:35.560 still more expensive than Optical discs are like yeah discs cost nothing to make 01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:40.960 super super super cheap they make them in huge batches and it's so prevalent 01:29:38.679 --> 01:29:45.199 that you could probably find out of out of a 100 computers 99 of them would have 01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:48.280 an optical drive or some kind of access to an optical drive and maybe 20% of 01:29:47.040 --> 01:29:54.199 them would actually have an SD card reader so there's your 01:29:51.400 --> 01:29:59.440 answer um GTA sucks but yes Halo is by far the most offensive thank you John I 01:29:56.840 --> 01:30:04.760 agree for cooling performance 480 mil Rad or thicker than normal 360 I'd go 01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:07.280 thick 360 really actually maybe not I'd 01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:12.320 probably go thin 480 with low RPM fans yeah that's what I expected you to yeah 01:30:09.560 --> 01:30:16.880 okay but then like finding a case I can fit that 01:30:13.400 --> 01:30:21.480 too it's not that easy tj07 bam well 01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:23.760 yeah but that's tj07 360 tj7 $360 $360 01:30:21.480 --> 01:30:30.199 $360 why did Twitter just sign out I don't know we to go with the touch 01:30:26.679 --> 01:30:32.800 mouse a you're killing me here and 01:30:30.199 --> 01:30:36.080 xsplit is like gone you know what that's gonna that's going to do it for tonight 01:30:34.040 --> 01:30:40.119 so I'm just gonna sort of do this some more and uh shut this down so thank you 01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:46.159 guys for tuning in to the live stream tonight don't forget to subscribe on 01:30:43.280 --> 01:30:51.040 Twitch more live streams good night byebye