{"video_id":"EIHz3x9j0VI","title":"What Video Card to Buy - Late 2017","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2018-05-06T14:53:29Z","duration_s":548,"segments":[{"start_s":0.24,"end_s":8.24,"text":"with black friday coming up it's the time of year to spend your hard-earned","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":5.359,"end_s":13.12,"text":"money on gaming upgrades manufacturers know this well and the last quarter of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.08,"end_s":15.599,"text":"the year is typically so chock-full of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":13.12,"end_s":18.32,"text":"new products and promotions that it can become impossible to keep track of them","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":17.6,"end_s":25.92,"text":"all so with all the different options out there how do you figure out which car","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.48,"end_s":29.039,"text":"delivers the best value for your 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hard-earned money on gaming upgrades manufacturers know this well and the last quarter of the year is typically so chock-full of new products and promotions that it can become impossible to keep track of them all so with all the different options out there how do you figure out which car delivers the best value for your dollar well you could spend a few days compiling the mother of all benchmarking data spreadsheets or you could just watch this video because we kind of did all the work for you just like tunnelbear does all the work of setting up a vpn for you to try tunnelbear for free go to tunnelbear.com LTT we've got that linked below if you don't feel like watching the rest of this honestly that's fine we've got recommendations for 1080p 1440p and 4k 60fps gaming linked in the description below if you want to learn about how we got to those conclusions then watch on just like last year we need to start by defining value value is not determined by price alone but by how much performance you get for that price so we might recommend expensive cards that you wouldn't consider affordable and still be able to call them a great value next we need to ensure that for every recommendation in this guide the real world performance that you'll get will actually be enough for the resolution you want to run your games at if we just looked at value by itself we could end up telling you to go buy a seven dollar el cheapo graphics card that gets two frames per second that would be fantastic FPS per dollar but a terrible gaming experience so what would be the freaking point on that subject we are going to be focusing then on three main categories of gamer all at high detail settings 1080p 1440p and 4k which is why you actually won't then see any budget card recommendations they weren't able to meet our minimum performance requirements regardless of how great of a value they were so our methodology for finding the best values out there was pretty similar to last year now due to how cards clock speeds are determined these days with heavy emphasis on automatic tuning that's done through GPU boost we will not be focusing on the minimal performance deltas that might exist between vendor a's gtx 1080 and vendor m's gtx 1080 because even a factory overclocked 1080 GPU on the fancy gigantic card is going to end up a lot closer to a normal founder's edition 1080 than it will to a like 1080 ti something with a completely different GPU and this general rule is true throughout both AMD and NVIDIA's lineups as for which gpus we looked at we limited ourselves to ones that are actually available for purchase brand new directly from a large reputable seller so we picked the three lowest priced models of each one from amazon and newegg then averaged them so that we could be confident that you can actually go buy something at about the pricing we're using in our value calculations we specifically left out used hardware and the reason for that is because while an older gen card can often be an excellent value and deliver decent performance at the same time it won't be covered by warranty in all but a few cases and not everyone's comfortable with that and we've actually run into situations before where we've gone and recommended some second-hand hardware only to see the demand and therefore pricing shoot up shortly after we publish our video okay with me so far now let's talk about our performance metrics obviously testing over 40 cards at three resolutions in a wide enough variety of games to give solid recommendations wasn't going to be feasible so instead of trying to find the actual frames per second of every card in every game like last year we used one card that was very likely to show up on performance charts at all three of these resolutions from reputable sites like guru 3d and pc perspective and then we logged the relative performance of any of our cards that we could find compared to that reference then we used that relative performance to extrapolate what the expected FPS might be now in some cases we had to extrapolate from an extrapolation and then everything got a little fuzzy for a while and i think at some point we were visited by the spreadsheet fairy but anyway the point is it is imperfect we know thanks to the amount of data we collected including benchmarks from FPS rts and rpg games we're confident that after applying a common sense filter like we ignored products outright that will obviously thermal throttle we've got a pretty clear picture of which cards will perform consistently better and which ones will perform consistently worse so at 1080p there are only really a couple of choices for team red the rx 570 and 580 were far and away the best their little brother the rx 560 did manage similar FPS per dollar numbers but it wasn't able to consistently deliver a high quality 1080p experience as for team green i never thought i'd hear myself say this but if all you want is 1080p you can actually save a few bucks the 1063 gig is less powerful and has less video memory which hurts it at higher resolutions compared to AMD's offerings but it met our performance bar and on average we were able to find it for 40 to 50 dollars less moving up to 1440p the rx 570 and 580 once again deliver along with the 1063 gig the highest FPS per dollar by a significant margin unfortunately for team green their offering just doesn't have enough raw power for us to recommend it here now with that said we aren't saying that higher end cards are a bad idea at this resolution the gtx 1070 and 1070 ti are our recommendations if you want much higher frame rates and fewer stutters and you're willing to pay a bit of a premium for it finally for the ballers among you if you want a game at 4k at high details 60 FPS there's really only one choice the gtx 1080 ti anything else other than a titan xp though its FPS per dollar would be obviously worse since it performs about the same as a 1080 ti would require you to turn down your in-game settings turn down your resolution or turn down both in order to reach 60 FPS obviously there are other factors to consider when you buy a graphics card like NVIDIA's excellent shadow play game recording software that obviously isn't supported on AMD cards or polaris's efficiency for cryptocurrency mining if you want to make a couple bucks with your gaming rig when you're not busy gaming on it and then as to individual cards well the design of the board and cooler the length of the warranty and any game bundles should also weigh into your decision but as i've said before to narrow your search you can find in the description of the video three solid choices for each resolution happy shopping and if you guys are looking for a recommendation for shaving supplies and other bathroom supplies you'll also find a link down there for that dollar shave club it is now the best time ever to try out dollar shave club they make it easy to upgrade your shave and your bathroom and 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