WEBVTT

00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.480
yes

00:00:03.360 --> 00:00:11.200
hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to the WAN Show we've got a

00:00:08.639 --> 00:00:16.720
fantastic show planned out for you today at least i think we do i wouldn't know i

00:00:14.719 --> 00:00:22.640
had nothing to do with the planning hooray hooray but in all seriousness

00:00:19.279 --> 00:00:24.640
we've got a couple of guests one of whom

00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:30.080
is another creator that we have actually never collaborated with before so that's

00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:35.840
pretty exciting and the second is someone whose final day

00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:38.960
here at Linus media group is today we are doing uh oh yeah i guess you

00:00:37.360 --> 00:00:42.480
probably didn't know about that we are doing a fight i didn't know they

00:00:40.559 --> 00:00:47.920
were coming off yeah yeah we are doing a farewell farewell stream for for one of

00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:50.559
our one of our staffers who's been here uh

00:00:48.800 --> 00:00:54.719
over a year now actually wow it's amazing how time flies so we've got a

00:00:52.640 --> 00:01:02.000
bunch of great topics lined up for you um including Intel's 10 nanometer delay

00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:05.600
Intel is i mean is this like the first time

00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:08.640
in how many decades that Intel hasn't been

00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:12.159
at the bleeding edge of process node tech it's gonna be really interesting

00:01:09.920 --> 00:01:17.840
because they might be in trouble um apple apple to move touch digitizer and

00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:23.520
wait what does that even mean that called oh oh apple's ditching 3d touch

00:01:24.560 --> 00:01:30.000
jim keller joins Intel this is big news if you don't know who jim keller is

00:01:28.320 --> 00:01:34.640
basically he's like uh CPU design

00:01:33.119 --> 00:01:40.400
like jesus i went with jesus to make it like not

00:01:37.119 --> 00:01:42.159
sort of offensive did it help at all no

00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:46.000
okay what else we got uh Windows 10 redstone

00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:50.799
5 gets telephony apis hinting at a surface

00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:55.600
phone um which i thought i thought they learned their lesson already on that one

00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:59.119
but maybe you know second time second time give it

00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:02.719
give it another shot give it another shot all right so speaking of giving it

00:02:01.119 --> 00:02:07.670
another shot let's give another shot at rolling this intro

00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:13.840
oh does it matter that i moved this window is that a problem

00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:18.480
i have no idea like are we using like screen cap to capture that i think from

00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:22.400
a different thing though okay i think it's okay so hopefully all of that is

00:02:20.720 --> 00:02:25.599
fine i'm getting a bunch of messages hopefully that's

00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:32.239
not a problem uh oh oh we forgot to uh we forgot to do

00:02:28.959 --> 00:02:36.280
uh a tweet the land show is live

00:02:32.239 --> 00:02:36.280
this video brought to you by ltx

00:02:39.760 --> 00:02:46.239
all right so

00:02:43.519 --> 00:02:52.319
i got to do a thing real quick here like that thing and also this thing

00:02:48.959 --> 00:02:52.319
the when show is live

00:02:54.640 --> 00:03:02.480
twitter like totally finds this stuff so does youtube so does facebook and they

00:02:58.720 --> 00:03:04.400
just super bury it yeah every week we'll

00:03:02.480 --> 00:03:08.720
tweet the same thing right hey our show is live and

00:03:06.480 --> 00:03:12.319
those platforms will specifically go out of their way to

00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:18.159
be super duper sure that no one would want to know that

00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:19.840
and what is going on right now

00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:23.760
what what how do i not have what what are you

00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:26.560
calling yourself how am i calling someone i

00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:33.760
it's not and hangouts crashed so hangouts is

00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:35.519
crashed it's calling someone and somehow

00:03:33.760 --> 00:03:39.840
have you seen me take my phone out of my pocket this phone not not the iphone

00:03:37.200 --> 00:03:43.599
from my back pocket no no somehow it was awake

00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:47.519
so far i think this is the the like smoothest start to win ghost phone in

00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.879
quite a while ghost phone

00:03:49.519 --> 00:03:56.239
there's nothing i can do about these kinds of things it's not my fault at a certain point it

00:03:54.239 --> 00:03:59.599
can't be oh my goodness it's also incredibly hot

00:03:58.640 --> 00:04:04.480
in here yeah wow it's getting hotter i think you can

00:04:02.640 --> 00:04:08.560
see like my face is glistening that i don't think that's like a lighting

00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:13.360
problem no me too i'm sweating it's only april and it's already getting to be

00:04:10.799 --> 00:04:17.440
like summer weather here all right yeah so why don't we jump into our first

00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:22.320
topic here and why don't we just invite our guests so

00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:25.120
let me see if i can figure out how to do it

00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:28.960
and click on the thing click on the thing other thing

00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.919
wrong thing

00:04:33.280 --> 00:04:40.240
hey look it's us there we go

00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:47.600
hi so welcome to the show jason how are you doing uh we are fantastic a

00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:50.800
little frazzled and a little warm yeah uh but otherwise fantastic how are you

00:04:49.520 --> 00:04:57.160
it's friday uh tgif i know right as if it meant

00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.160
anything

00:04:57.520 --> 00:05:03.440
wait you're telling me i don't get the weekend off yeah i know well you're you're not

00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:07.840
exactly new to the youtube game so this shouldn't be much of a surprise to you

00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:11.680
so uh yeah we've all we've already got we've

00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:16.479
already got people being like holy crap never knew tech deals name in

00:05:14.479 --> 00:05:20.560
our twitch chat yeah

00:05:18.320 --> 00:05:24.160
jason who there's actually a lot of that going on right now so why don't you do a

00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:28.240
quick intro to yourself or anyone who hasn't stumbled across your videos over

00:05:26.080 --> 00:05:32.880
on the tube uh my name is jason i run a youtube

00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:37.360
channel called tech deals and i do basically tech deals i do tech reviews

00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:42.479
and the best deals and builds and all sorts of fun stuff uh just just picture

00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:47.520
me as a much smaller younger version of Linus like five years ago

00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:52.080
wow i mean with all the with all the shade

00:05:49.919 --> 00:05:55.759
that this guy was throwing even before the show started i was worried we were

00:05:54.080 --> 00:05:59.120
gonna have to bring in some more lights or you wouldn't even be able to see our

00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:02.880
glistening foreheads here and he's keeping it up so uh

00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:05.759
you can find his channel uh over here

00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:08.720
five things to consider when buying an SSD is the

00:06:07.520 --> 00:06:12.800
what is it what do they call that a channel trailer now whatever they call

00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:19.520
that the featured video on your home so giveaway and review 80 plus power supply

00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:22.880
1050 versus 1050 ti 2018 update

00:06:19.520 --> 00:06:24.720
okay why does that need to be updated

00:06:22.880 --> 00:06:29.120
because people like that stuff because people want to know how like the new

00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:33.199
games play uh far cry 5 and stuff like that huh

00:06:30.960 --> 00:06:35.919
wow we used to do similar content to that and you're like why does that need

00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:41.039
to happen back back in the house back in the

00:06:37.919 --> 00:06:42.240
garage i'm busy i'm busy rg being things

00:06:41.039 --> 00:06:45.759
he knows rgbing things today if your brain was

00:06:44.479 --> 00:06:50.960
just a little bit younger it would have been malleable enough to remember that

00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:55.680
now you what what is this like attack Linus show

00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:59.360
the lancho well you answered the question

00:06:56.880 --> 00:07:02.479
you answered the question of where he could be found with a youtube link

00:07:01.039 --> 00:07:08.160
instead of mentioning the new thing ah yes so i totally

00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:11.440
screwed up and it's it's totally my fault that especially luke is going

00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:14.960
after me you have a here i'll fix it mind you uh oh okay you just don't have

00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:18.880
a thing all right all right you can find him there can i okay so this is this is

00:07:17.520 --> 00:07:23.440
pretty cool so the thing that we're announcing here is that jason is going

00:07:21.520 --> 00:07:30.479
to be the second non-Linus media group creator to show up

00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:33.120
on flow plans

00:07:30.479 --> 00:07:37.120
nice tech tips bit with ultra and right there tech deals is now live on the

00:07:35.520 --> 00:07:40.319
platform um and obviously we've had a look at some

00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:44.960
of the stuff you've got up on youtube but what do you have available now for

00:07:42.880 --> 00:07:50.479
people to check out over on Floatplane we have got some early access videos

00:07:47.280 --> 00:07:52.800
over there the may uh 2018 unboxing is

00:07:50.479 --> 00:07:57.599
already there with uh more than a dozen cool things unboxed there's some

00:07:55.039 --> 00:08:00.960
additional testing of vram requirements there's a couple of behind the scenes

00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:05.199
videos that are exclusive to float playing just some uh uh interesting

00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:10.800
videos that you just won't see on youtube so cool stuff holy crap you've

00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:15.440
been really busy he's he's been on top of it what the is all this

00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:20.560
you've only had access to the account for like two days dude

00:08:17.840 --> 00:08:23.280
that uh the galax uh that galax is the first time i've ever tested a galaxy

00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:27.199
card cool

00:08:25.280 --> 00:08:32.080
sheesh all right

00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:34.000
well that's fantastic okay cool

00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:39.440
all right so why don't we actually do something that we rarely do on WAN Show

00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:41.599
here and actually get into a tech topic

00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:46.320
oh wow um so the this was originally posted on the Linus tech tips forum by

00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:51.360
samsee and the original article here is from tom's hardware

00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.399
uh but basically this this is absolutely

00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:57.760
huge Intel's 10 nanometer technology is and

00:08:55.760 --> 00:09:02.080
the headline says this is uh pretty pretty savage here actually is

00:09:00.560 --> 00:09:09.839
broken and apparently delayed until 2019.

00:09:07.040 --> 00:09:14.800
now if the rest of the industry were going through the same challenges this

00:09:11.920 --> 00:09:20.000
wouldn't even really be that newsworthy except

00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:23.600
that the word on the street is that AMD

00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:26.560
is already in the prototyping stages

00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:30.560
using seven nanometer technology from their partner global boundaries yeah

00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:34.800
yeah yeah yeah the um

00:09:33.040 --> 00:09:38.720
and this isn't to to add a little bit too this isn't rumor mill stuff i often

00:09:36.800 --> 00:09:42.959
complain like oh i don't like rumors this was from a i believe a

00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.920
shareholders call yeah so during their quarterly earnings call and this was

00:09:44.800 --> 00:09:51.040
yesterday Intel basically was like

00:09:47.920 --> 00:09:53.519
yup this is a thing

00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:57.040
i don't and it's not too surprising they've been like

00:09:55.040 --> 00:10:00.720
a lot of the news lately of like oh this person has been hired

00:09:58.640 --> 00:10:04.480
uh for Intel has been like them poaching from other companies pretty aggressively

00:10:02.959 --> 00:10:08.880
so it seems like they knew there was a problem they've been trying to pull people in to solve it

00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:15.040
i mean jason do you think they were trying to bury this news somewhat under

00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.800
an extremely strong quarter one earnings

00:10:15.040 --> 00:10:20.880
they were i mean they they had great earnings but their their desktop

00:10:18.640 --> 00:10:25.200
business is flat it's their services business that's up and it looks like

00:10:23.440 --> 00:10:29.399
we're going to be getting yet another iteration of 14 nanometer beyond coffee

00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:34.320
like believe it or not holy crap

00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:38.720
i mean this is kind of does this feel really similar to what started happening

00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:43.600
with gpus right around the 28 nanometer time yeah

00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:47.040
when is the last time AMD had the chance of having a CPU at a

00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:52.640
smaller production process than Intel

00:10:49.760 --> 00:10:58.320
i don't think i've been a computer enthusiast long enough for AMD to have

00:10:55.680 --> 00:11:03.760
even been on the same process known as Intel and i don't mean where they like

00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:08.079
Intel when it went ahead and then AMD caught up and then until when like i

00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:13.120
mean for AMD to have like launched at around a similar time with uh

00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:18.240
using the same manufacturing process as Intel so just for for those of you who

00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:25.120
aren't familiar with what this means there are a number of things that make a

00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:26.560
CPU or a GPU or any kind of processor

00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:31.760
inherently better so uh adding more cash for

00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:35.040
example adding smarter cash that is as long as it's not

00:11:33.040 --> 00:11:40.880
suffering from spectre or meltdown related issues um my minor problem

00:11:38.640 --> 00:11:45.040
increasing the clock speed uh all of these things help so architectural

00:11:42.880 --> 00:11:48.399
changes to the design of the chip and how its logic works

00:11:46.800 --> 00:11:54.880
these help performance and can potentially help efficiency but

00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:57.200
the kind of freebie that for decades now

00:11:54.880 --> 00:12:01.680
we've pretty much taken for granted is shrinking the manufacturing process so

00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:06.880
the size of the transistors with a couple of notable exceptions this

00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:12.000
inherently makes the chips more power efficient and smaller allowing you to

00:12:09.920 --> 00:12:17.279
increase the complexity i mean that's why a CPU today can have in excess of

00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:23.279
like 20 megabytes of cash whereas back when i was getting into this stuff i

00:12:19.200 --> 00:12:25.120
mean having 256 kilobytes or 512

00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:28.480
kilobytes was considered did he just take jerky

00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:33.040
no he didn't okay never mind you know having

00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:35.600
256 kilobytes or 512 kilobytes was

00:12:33.040 --> 00:12:38.560
considered pretty darn good so AMD

00:12:37.680 --> 00:12:42.800
by manufacturing on a smaller

00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.320
process inherently has an advantage in terms of

00:12:44.800 --> 00:12:52.320
power consumption and chip complexity that Intel has just

00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:54.560
taken for granted for the last what 20 years

00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:59.200
yeah pretty much it's given them their huge advantage

00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:04.320
that's incredible so

00:13:02.880 --> 00:13:09.760
i mean there's a couple other just sort of housekeeping items here they're

00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:11.839
shipping cannon lake and low volume

00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:14.320
haven't pointed to specific customers or products

00:13:14.880 --> 00:13:21.120
and basically their multi-patterning process is generating too many yield

00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:25.600
reducing defects to produce 10 nanometer cost effectively so that's another thing

00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:29.760
that the layperson would not necessarily be aware of

00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:34.639
when you're manufacturing it's not just about can you make a CPU Intel could

00:13:32.560 --> 00:13:39.279
probably make a CPU at 10 nanometer or even a node or even

00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:43.040
two nodes below if all they had to make was one CPU and it could cost them six

00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:46.959
million dollars to produce or whatever the case may be um

00:13:46.079 --> 00:13:52.079
but for them to make it cost effective enough that they can bring these 10

00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:56.320
nanometer products to market and actually sell them at a price that would

00:13:53.920 --> 00:14:00.000
be acceptable to consumers and competitive with their own 14 nanometer

00:13:59.040 --> 00:14:07.199
products well for that you have to have a significant amount of the wafer actually

00:14:04.800 --> 00:14:11.199
be usable and they can accept small defects and you'll often see that in the

00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:14.880
form of something like a core i5 or a core i3 where they'll turn off some

00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:18.959
cache or turn off a couple of course that's perfectly acceptable

00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:25.279
but for them to not ship at all means they are not getting enough even usable

00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:25.279
dies to productize the thing

00:14:26.880 --> 00:14:33.839
well we may actually see AMD pull ahead in performance then for a change because

00:14:31.600 --> 00:14:38.560
ryzen's awesome but it's still per core not quite as fast but what if that

00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:40.639
changes by next year so one thing that's

00:14:38.560 --> 00:14:47.040
sort of a a potential asap AMD sleeve is that

00:14:43.760 --> 00:14:49.440
we've seen second generation ryzen

00:14:47.040 --> 00:14:53.279
and i mean whatever the hype train might have said you know our thoughts on it

00:14:51.199 --> 00:14:56.720
were okay i mean yeah it's it's more better for

00:14:55.199 --> 00:15:00.480
the same price i'm certainly not going to say no yeah

00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:05.600
no send it back make another reward to the improvements

00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:10.320
um but there was nothing revolutionary about it what we haven't

00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:14.880
seen from AMD yet is something that they have clearly indicated is on their

00:15:12.079 --> 00:15:19.680
roadmap and that is zen two so that's an actual architectural improvement to zen

00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:24.160
that's more than just okay we shrunk the node node a little bit like like a

00:15:22.160 --> 00:15:27.920
fraction of a node down and we've reduced power consumption a little

00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:32.160
bit even though it ended up not actually amounting to much and we've increased clock speed

00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:38.680
so can you imagine what the world looks like where AMD outperforms Intel

00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:45.199
i i like i it's kind of exciting because i think it'll light a fire under Intel

00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:50.959
again and we've been saying this for a long time it's going to be weird consumer

00:15:48.160 --> 00:15:54.639
wise because even if AMD is ahead of Intel in that

00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:57.279
way it'll be interesting to see how fast or even if the market really shifts that

00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:03.360
much because people have been ingrained to just buy Intel stuff for so long now

00:16:01.839 --> 00:16:08.560
i'm gonna go ahead i'm gonna say something that might be a little unpopular

00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:12.079
um with the AMD fanboys out there i don't think it's going to affect

00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:16.160
consumer choice very much at all that's what that's where i was kind of going with that is i i think people are still

00:16:14.959 --> 00:16:19.440
going to buy it i think yeah i think AMD is going to

00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:24.240
raise prices and the people who are going to buy AMD are going to buy AMD because it's a good

00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:28.160
choice and the people who buy Intel are going to buy Intel

00:16:26.800 --> 00:16:32.399
well that was kind of true back in the pentium 4 days when you had athlon xp

00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:38.079
yeah and in particular i mean the pentium 4 wasn't even the worst because

00:16:34.800 --> 00:16:40.639
the pentium 4 legitimately outperformed

00:16:38.079 --> 00:16:45.440
the athlon xp i mean the us AMD people you know i had a 2500

00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:50.720
plus and i overclocked it to 2.2 gigahertz which would have made it a

00:16:47.839 --> 00:16:56.480
3200 plus by bumping the front side bus from 333 to 400. okay

00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:00.160
no no crap no it was from 266 to 330 whatever whatever it was it was very

00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:04.240
confusing because AMD back in those days would actually have multiple models of

00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.679
the same processor at different front side bus speeds and then just with like

00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:10.559
different multipliers and because of board compatibility with

00:17:09.520 --> 00:17:14.799
because remember that was back when third-party chip sets existed yeah right

00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:19.439
remember via chipsets enforce

00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:25.039
last from the past i know right so so anyway i i had a 2500 plus and i had it

00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:30.400
overclocked to a 3200 plus which AMD very optimistically would compare to

00:17:27.679 --> 00:17:34.799
Intel's 3.2 gigahertz but if we're being honest with ourselves

00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:39.039
i was one of those people who was like you know what hyper threading is not

00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:45.679
real processor cores so you know what my 3200 plus is like as good as your 3.2

00:17:41.840 --> 00:17:47.440
gigahertz p4 um but in actuality hyper

00:17:45.679 --> 00:17:53.200
threading was a good thing and this wasn't something that i actually discovered until

00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:58.640
dual cores were sort of the norm in the enthusiast circles and i got my hands on

00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:04.480
a p4c 2.4 gigahertz so this was a northwood c

00:18:02.080 --> 00:18:09.360
and this was an m0 stepping this was a cool chip this is a 2.4

00:18:07.520 --> 00:18:15.919
gigahertz chip that was capable of like four plus do people hunt that stuff as

00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:20.880
much as they used to a p force a p4 800

00:18:15.919 --> 00:18:22.559
c d a p f p 4 c 800 e deluxe

00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:25.440
that's an ASUS board from back in the day that was actually the board that i

00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:30.240
had that i was playing around with this m0 stepping on and that was m0 stepping

00:18:27.919 --> 00:18:32.640
was out of like a salvage system someone had given to me when i built them a new

00:18:31.600 --> 00:18:36.480
one i was like you had no idea what you had here i mean

00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:39.440
dual cores were obviously still better but i was like oh hyper threading worked

00:18:37.919 --> 00:18:43.200
this is cool and overclocked man that thing was fast

00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:48.640
anyway what am i talking about again right a p4c800d deluxe those still go

00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:52.559
for a hundred bucks on ebay i look really i looked at it last week

00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:56.400
because we're planning like a blast from the past machine

00:18:54.720 --> 00:19:00.160
and we want to overclock the snot out of it and if you want to overclock the snot

00:18:57.840 --> 00:19:07.840
out of a p4c a pentium 4c um then you really do need

00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:11.280
a p4c800d deluxe and um so we are probably going to pay a hundred dollars

00:19:09.840 --> 00:19:15.280
for a 10 year old motherboard in the near future that's a crime

00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:20.240
a hundred dollars all i remember is that

00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:23.039
the pentium threes were good and then the athlons came out

00:19:22.080 --> 00:19:27.600
and i skipped most of the pentium fours because frankly

00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:31.760
yes you could get a pentium four that was faster but it costs so much more

00:19:29.679 --> 00:19:35.280
money than an athlon that's true

00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:39.039
the board was more expensive the chip was more expensive to get the most out

00:19:37.120 --> 00:19:42.799
of it you needed dual channel memory which back then was

00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:48.880
like can you remember that rambus RAM crazy expensive yeah rambus RAM i

00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:54.080
actually there's a gap in my pc enthusiasm in between the pentium one

00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:59.200
and uh the p4 post rambus

00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:03.039
so i never had to deal with round this memory

00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:07.360
you've never had rambus i have never had rambus in fact i don't think i've ever

00:20:04.960 --> 00:20:10.400
even talked about it so feel free to tell our audience for maybe the first

00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:15.919
time they've ever heard about it because they're uh if you if you listen to our

00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:21.120
our our haters they're all kids um so they yeah go ahead and educate them i

00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:24.960
wouldn't want to put a a a a hat on or anything but basically Intel wanted a

00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:28.559
piece of the RAM market oh did i say that out loud so they wanted to get

00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:32.080
everybody off of ddr RAM and they wanted to go to rambus because they had

00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:36.480
royalties and patents on it it was supposed to be faster and it was but it

00:20:33.840 --> 00:20:40.240
had higher latency and other issues or vice versa but essentially they thought

00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:44.640
that their market clout would force everybody and you could buy an athlon

00:20:41.919 --> 00:20:49.919
instead which used the cheaper ddr RAM and cheaper boards and yes pentium was

00:20:47.600 --> 00:20:53.360
10 20 faster but you paid

00:20:51.200 --> 00:21:00.400
double triple the money for 10 or 20 speed it was silly

00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:02.000
that would be a tremendous

00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:06.240
video standards that Intel has pushed over the

00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:11.760
years that died we've got rambus we've got btx

00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:14.799
we've got uh what what what else just like off the top of our heads could we

00:21:13.520 --> 00:21:19.280
uh uh oh oh oh do you guys remember vive

00:21:19.520 --> 00:21:25.760
v i i v no i don't think so oh man oh it was

00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:32.080
epic we had this uh we had this like like demo kit at the ncix headquarters

00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:34.799
that i don't think literally was ever

00:21:32.080 --> 00:21:38.960
taken out of its box i've seen this logo yeah yeah here hold on i'm gonna

00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:42.799
uh here here's a Intel press room technology brief i'm just gonna show you

00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:48.320
guys with my screen on my screen here here it is yeah baby Intel vive

00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:52.080
maximize your home entertainment experience

00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:56.799
this is Intel's brand for in-home entertainment pcs designed to transform

00:21:54.559 --> 00:22:02.720
how consumers manage share and enjoy abroad and growing aspartame of movies

00:21:58.640 --> 00:22:04.880
programs music games and photos

00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:08.320
oh man look at this look how like delightfully two thousands all of this

00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:12.640
looks like i recognize all the logos but i don't remember it at all it's probably because

00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:16.080
it's home theater and i didn't care well the other thing too is that it

00:22:14.159 --> 00:22:19.840
didn't matter at all because anything was vive

00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:24.720
it was just kind of a meaningless label that you could put on an htpc with

00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:31.280
like it was like the multipedia multimedia pc standard back in the 90s

00:22:27.280 --> 00:22:31.280
vr ready yeah like look at oh

00:22:31.760 --> 00:22:37.600
like look at these performance benchmarks they're like yes a vive

00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:40.640
technology oh by the way it's a pen tmd processor

00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:46.640
it's and then they compare it to just a p4 not vive and they're like oh

00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:50.080
yes vive is much more better but it actually is just like

00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:54.159
better cpus like here's a core 2 duo versus a p4571

00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:59.440
what is the point exactly that you're trying to make

00:22:56.799 --> 00:23:05.280
would you consider Intel's iatanium to be them trying to control 64-bit

00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:09.840
um you know what i don't know enough about the itanic to really comment on it

00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:13.360
um like in an in-depth technical way

00:23:12.320 --> 00:23:20.080
because it was server tech at a time when we did

00:23:17.280 --> 00:23:23.520
not dabble in server tech at all so what's your take because i feel like

00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:29.520
you wouldn't ask me if you didn't have an opinion well they were trying to move the

00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:32.080
industry off of their traditional x86

00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:36.000
which of course AMD had a license to and the idea was that they would have

00:23:33.520 --> 00:23:40.559
something that they could have exclusive and i'll bet an awful lot of people

00:23:37.919 --> 00:23:44.159
today don't realize that the 64-bit technology we use today isn't Intel's

00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:49.039
it's AMD's um that i itanium was Intel's attempt to

00:23:47.120 --> 00:23:52.159
get everybody off a legacy platform and sort of take contr they've tried

00:23:50.559 --> 00:23:58.400
multiple times over the years to try to retake control of the

00:23:55.120 --> 00:24:00.640
of the of the CPU business from AMD

00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:04.880
yeah i know

00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:09.600
it will be considering all the stuff that happened 15 years ago with pentium

00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:12.640
4 and and in athlon if

00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:18.480
ryzen 3 ends up being 7 nanometers before Intel gets there

00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:20.240
are you adding this to like no no but i

00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:23.440
will we like definitely i thought you were like i'm doing this during the show

00:24:22.080 --> 00:24:28.080
no no i don't think you'll forget that would be so that would be so much fun um

00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:31.840
so on the subject of all of this lighting a fire under Intel's butt i

00:24:29.919 --> 00:24:37.520
think we've got time for one more topic with you and i think this is probably

00:24:33.919 --> 00:24:39.440
the best one uh jim keller

00:24:37.520 --> 00:24:44.159
is joining Intel so this was posted by numlock21 on the forum and the original

00:24:41.679 --> 00:24:47.679
article is wccf tech so whatever you might think about them you

00:24:45.679 --> 00:24:52.799
can keep it to yourself because this is like a confirmed thing so just chill out

00:24:50.080 --> 00:24:56.880
um but basically i mean this is not even this is not even

00:24:54.799 --> 00:25:04.960
this doesn't do justice to to the guy's resume but it says AMD's zen and athlon

00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:06.960
64 CPU architect so pretty much

00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:10.559
the only times that AMD has built anything competitive with Intel in the

00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:15.600
last 10 years um

00:25:12.320 --> 00:25:19.360
the architect behind them jim keller has

00:25:15.600 --> 00:25:20.240
joined Intel so this is after stints at

00:25:19.360 --> 00:25:24.640
apple where i believe was he working on CPU or

00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:29.440
GPU at apple do you do you remember

00:25:27.679 --> 00:25:33.600
no no i can't i can't remember either and then he also did uh did some time at

00:25:32.320 --> 00:25:37.919
tesla uh so he left AMD for tesla most

00:25:35.679 --> 00:25:45.039
recently and then he was at uh apple in between AMD and uh AMD again i think

00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:50.880
can't remember exactly but basically the guy is a legend in the CPU design

00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:54.159
business and so now he

00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:58.240
and raja kaduri who was the head of Radeon technologies

00:25:57.279 --> 00:26:03.360
group under AMD are now both at Intel so if there was

00:26:01.760 --> 00:26:07.520
any doubt that Intel is making a big push here

00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:12.240
you can put that to rest it's gonna be interesting well he's he's

00:26:09.679 --> 00:26:17.840
he's he was essentially uh played a key role responsible for the good cpus that

00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:21.840
AMD frankly has ever designed because i don't know if you ever played around

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:26.080
with the old k6 and k5 chips back way back in the 90s but

00:26:23.679 --> 00:26:30.080
they really struggled when they lost the ability to copy Intel's designs i mean

00:26:28.159 --> 00:26:34.559
all the way through the 386 and whatnot they could copy Intel but then they had

00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:39.200
to come up there k5 was late k5 was slow competing with the pentium right and

00:26:36.080 --> 00:26:41.840
then k6 was okay but then the k7 was

00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:44.559
athlon and so basically he did athlon xp

00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:49.200
all the way through until they switched over to phenom and fx which he wasn't

00:26:46.960 --> 00:26:53.840
involved with and then he did ryzen so basically he's done every good CPU AMD's

00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:58.559
ever done i mean that's one way of putting it yep

00:26:56.159 --> 00:26:58.559
um

00:26:59.520 --> 00:27:07.200
man so he's joining as a senior vice president leading the company's silicon

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:12.400
engineering which encompasses system on chip development and integration

00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:16.000
uh so he did uh oh yeah okay this is all in my notes did a multi-year stinted

00:27:14.080 --> 00:27:19.440
apple between contributions to k8 and coming back to work on zen at apple he

00:27:17.840 --> 00:27:22.400
led the design team to build the company's class-leading

00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:26.480
mobile processors so in 2015 he left AMD to join tesla

00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:32.000
where he's been leading the company's ai chip design teams to date

00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:36.640
so if tesla produces some kind of chip design that is like

00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:40.480
freaking awesome in the next year to four

00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:43.120
uh he will basically definitely have had

00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:47.039
a hand in that i mean what what does this mean for AMD

00:27:45.520 --> 00:27:53.679
like they're gonna have a couple of good years here because one of the things that uh mr keller did

00:27:51.600 --> 00:27:57.520
i don't know is he a doctor i don't know i've never never seen it

00:27:56.159 --> 00:28:02.799
that way so i'm not sure i mean it seems like there's a pretty good chance anyway yeah one of the things that jim keller

00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:08.559
did at AMD was he set out a road map for zen like this is zen one and then here's

00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.919
like future generations of zen like here's here's

00:28:10.080 --> 00:28:15.360
it's all plotted out for you but after that

00:28:13.360 --> 00:28:18.960
what do they do where do you find another rock star like

00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:22.000
that i don't know find good people and let

00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:25.760
them do their thing i mean it's become very challenging

00:28:23.919 --> 00:28:29.360
though i mean in the early days chip design was simple enough i mean

00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:33.440
obviously it was already very complicated but it was simple enough

00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:39.039
that there could be many people qualified to work on it

00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:44.320
as time goes on for you to find someone with the

00:28:41.760 --> 00:28:49.039
knowledge to work on current technology and the experience of everything that's

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:54.240
come before it something that does have a value and has a value more and more so

00:28:51.840 --> 00:28:58.799
as the technology progresses to find those people is going to become more and

00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:03.360
more difficult and when you're AMD you are competing with Intel to attract

00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:06.640
those people and we can see who is winning that battle right now

00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:12.240
yeah and it's not like he's retiring right away that's one thing i was going

00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:16.240
to look into is like is the old guard gonna be retiring but he's not quite at

00:29:14.399 --> 00:29:18.720
that age yet so no we can keep leaning on these guys

00:29:19.520 --> 00:29:22.559
that's gonna be interesting

00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:30.240
all right well we gotta jump into our sponsors um jason thank you so much for coming on

00:29:27.919 --> 00:29:34.080
the show we are absolutely thrilled not just to have you on but also to have you

00:29:32.080 --> 00:29:39.840
on Floatplane so i just want to do a quick reminder to everyone

00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:43.600
you can find jason over on youtube if you just search for tech deals

00:29:44.840 --> 00:29:51.440
youtube.comtechdeals yep and you can also find him over on sorry i was just

00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:55.440
stalling for time while i got my uh Floatplane screen up here yep there we

00:29:52.960 --> 00:30:00.000
go and you can also find them over on Floatplane um will you be doing mostly

00:29:57.840 --> 00:30:03.840
early access or exclusive stuff or what's the deal over there um early

00:30:02.080 --> 00:30:07.840
access the goal is to give everybody a week early access to all the videos

00:30:06.320 --> 00:30:11.039
except for like key product launches but everything will go up first on float

00:30:09.520 --> 00:30:15.279
plane and then on youtube but there'll be some behind the scenes a couple of uh

00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:19.600
fun uh exclusive videos just for Floatplane supporters cool fantastic all

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:23.360
right well thank you so much for joining us and uh we'll talk we'll talk really

00:30:21.679 --> 00:30:27.279
soon because i'm sure you're gonna want some tech support because Floatplane is

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:33.440
pretty alpha dude hey hey you were taking shots at me all

00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:33.440
right see ya that's fair that's for bye

00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:40.480
all right it's working right now people are subscribing to them already are they

00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:44.880
really yeah already wow that was quick yeah do you i haven't seen this

00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:50.480
dashboard why haven't you shown me this dashboard

00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:54.159
you have access to it what yeah i asked

00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:54.159
you for this multiple times

00:30:55.520 --> 00:30:58.080
what a dick

00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:06.480
what a what a dick

00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:09.600
so like i could see all this stuff i mean what is this like what what do you

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:14.880
want to see you can see creators this is mostly

00:31:12.080 --> 00:31:19.840
including connected invoices and like you have oh no you don't i forgot

00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:29.760
it's probably fine terrible people terrible people everywhere especially

00:31:27.679 --> 00:31:32.640
the chair next to me all right

00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:37.360
i'll give you access to this all right let's get let's get let's get our

00:31:34.159 --> 00:31:40.640
sponsors let's get our sponsors on here

00:31:37.360 --> 00:31:44.000
uh so this this episode of the wen show

00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:44.960
is brought to you by spectrum glasses

00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:50.640
and my notes are not in this WAN Show document the one the other that we

00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:54.960
shared with uh with jason they're in the other the

00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:57.919
perpetual WAN Show documents i'm gonna pull those up but basically in a

00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:03.120
nutshell i don't really even need my talking points for this they are glasses

00:32:00.399 --> 00:32:07.600
that are right here perfect and they have a yellow tint that is designed to

00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:13.039
reduce the amount of blue light hitting your eyes while not affecting the color

00:32:10.399 --> 00:32:17.840
of the things around you or your screen over much they're well built nice and

00:32:16.159 --> 00:32:22.159
robust they've actually even got ones for kids that are super durable and

00:32:20.159 --> 00:32:25.279
they've got a huge variety of different styles i think that is a ladies design

00:32:24.080 --> 00:32:30.000
that you're wearing right now but you know luke and i don't really stress out about those kinds of minor details

00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.640
ah a rocket

00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:38.880
uh their high their highest rated among their competitors on amazon and they're

00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:42.559
primarily focused on the canadian and u.s markets but they are expanding to

00:32:41.360 --> 00:32:47.519
europe and they offer shipping internationally so check them out at

00:32:44.760 --> 00:32:52.720
spectrumglasses.com collections prospect or at the link right there

00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:56.399
which is actually the exact same thing why does that say prospect and why does

00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:01.360
that say products well hopefully they both work anyway you

00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:04.640
can use offer code Linus to save 10

00:33:01.360 --> 00:33:06.640
on your spectrum glasses today

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:10.159
or tomorrow whichever one works for you or the next

00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:14.480
day or kind of whenever you want kind of

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:17.279
whenever you want but uh make sure you don't forget to use the code because 10

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:22.159
off is awesome it's basically like getting free shipping yeah um all right

00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:26.799
also brought to you by private internet access private internet and

00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.880
private internet access supports a wide variety of vpn protocols and types of

00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:36.240
encryption and authentication allowing you to dial in the exact level of privacy protection you need they've got

00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:41.679
apps for Windows macOS Android iOS Linux and google chrome with support for

00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:44.720
several other platforms coming soon

00:33:41.679 --> 00:33:44.720
what other platforms

00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:54.799
well they they called it a specific browser okay so it could be other like maybe

00:33:53.120 --> 00:33:58.720
another browser okay that's fair you can connect up to five devices at the same

00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:03.360
time and their apps include dns leak protection and ipv6 leak protection an

00:34:01.600 --> 00:34:06.880
internet kill switch will block all traffic if the vpn becomes disconnected

00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:10.639
unexpectedly and you can check it out today at the link in the video

00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:17.040
description or the one that i'm pointing at right there best of all

00:34:13.359 --> 00:34:17.040
it is not owned by mcafee

00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:22.159
that took me a sec

00:34:22.560 --> 00:34:30.159
you know you know they they they called us

00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:33.520
after that video yeah and they were like hey

00:34:31.520 --> 00:34:37.440
they didn't call us before it though well yeah

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:41.200
i mean the wife's making a face

00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:45.839
uh oh right yeah i guess we should we should do that now okay one right can i

00:34:43.520 --> 00:34:49.679
do one thing right before then ltx 2018 oh what

00:34:47.359 --> 00:34:54.159
uh i have a thing that i need to do in the thing right there you have a thing

00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.520
oh yeah sure uh go ahead uh apply for the developer position at Floatplane

00:34:56.000 --> 00:35:00.800
media if you're watching this on youtube it will be in the description and

00:34:59.359 --> 00:35:05.440
otherwise you're posting it to a chat i'm posting it all right cool um how

00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:09.280
many people are on the team now it depends where you draw the line okay

00:35:07.520 --> 00:35:16.400
yeah like five but it depends where you draw the line but lines on me than five if i'm

00:35:13.200 --> 00:35:18.720
included yeah but are you included yeah

00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:21.760
it's like five plus yeah yeah okay yeah so it's going really well it's been it's

00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.640
awesome luke's a great boss

00:35:25.680 --> 00:35:34.400
not now i'm so confused okay there we go um ltx 2018. you saw that thanks yes ltx

00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:37.359
2018. it's a meet up and interactive tech event it's happening july 14th at

00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:41.839
the richmond olympic oval here in richmond bc canada the current booths

00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:46.079
include a blind cable management competition brought to you by cablemod a

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:51.760
d-lidding workshop so you can bring your CPU and we will show you how to delete

00:35:48.560 --> 00:35:53.280
it safely case toss 2.0

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:57.520
safer this time multi-headed vr a lan really we're going

00:35:56.160 --> 00:36:02.240
to have a lan that's sick okay 12k ultra wide gaming

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.640
we haven't actually made that video yet but we will be working on that very hard hopefully to have it done in time and

00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:14.079
with more on the way there's going to be food music cool systems to look at um

00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:16.320
games more swag special guests exclusive

00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:21.359
live unboxings and more so tickets start at 35 bucks canadian and you can check

00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:25.280
them out at ltxexpo.com

00:36:21.359 --> 00:36:26.960
so look oh crap oh crap oh crap where's

00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:31.760
the where where where is it where's the oh there it is okay yep

00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:36.160
everything's fine so it's your last day yes

00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:42.640
bye so i actually haven't asked you this yet

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:46.079
but like where are you going croatia

00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:48.000
okay not what i meant but um

00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:52.320
oh really oh okay what are you doing in croatia i'm gonna go live um

00:36:50.560 --> 00:36:56.640
with my boyfriend's grandparents for a bit

00:36:54.240 --> 00:37:01.760
really yeah breathe in some fresh air i guess you're gonna live in croatia they

00:36:59.200 --> 00:37:07.520
have no wi-fi like in croatia or at his grandparents

00:37:04.160 --> 00:37:09.200
house in croatia no yes they do they

00:37:07.520 --> 00:37:13.680
don't what yeah

00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:18.640
okay so tech tips video like getting getting max wi-fi and croatian

00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:24.000
i don't think they have the capacity to do that

00:37:20.839 --> 00:37:26.960
no i'll send you a photo of their like

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:30.640
uh breaker like it's it's insane oh oh but just like in their house in their

00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:34.560
house they i think they have wi-fi at like one of the cafes in the city that

00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:39.760
they live in really yes so you're going from complete

00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:45.920
immersion in technology to like your phone is basically a fancy

00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:50.720
apple branded decoration yes

00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:54.320
wow how long are you staying there a few weeks to a month

00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:59.280
a month yeah so

00:37:57.520 --> 00:38:03.920
yeah wow that's exciting have you given much thought to your plan beyond that

00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.800
i feel like i'm interviewing you i might as well ask you know what i might as

00:38:05.359 --> 00:38:11.280
well ask some of the some of the questions that i'm sure people have on their minds guys go ahead and post in

00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:14.960
the twitch chat if you have any questions for max i will do my best but

00:38:13.839 --> 00:38:19.760
we're not going to have a ton of time because it's 5 59 and so officially in

00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:22.800
one minute she super doesn't work here anymore and definitely doesn't have to

00:38:21.200 --> 00:38:26.480
listen to me am i trespassing at that point um yeah do we have to like do we

00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:31.599
have to escort her away no i've already taken all my keys but

00:38:28.240 --> 00:38:33.040
she's a visitor but you're a visitor wow

00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:36.880
okay so uh

00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:41.040
favorite video project you worked on while you were here

00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:45.599
oh i don't

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:51.920
the one at your house i forget which one but you dressed up as a grandmother and

00:38:49.200 --> 00:38:55.520
tech then versus now yeah that was that was pretty fun that was

00:38:53.760 --> 00:39:01.440
pretty fun so we were talking about sort of retro tech and uh

00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:06.800
oh sorry so we were talking about sort of differences between technology when i

00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:11.440
was a kid and when my kids were a kid and i guess technology from when i was a

00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:15.200
kid was funny to you i suppose also it involved a lot of costumes that

00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:18.800
was a lot of fun a lot of cross-dressing worst project

00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:21.760
worst project i already think i know what you're going to say

00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:25.440
and it was fun but it was also pretty horrible

00:39:25.680 --> 00:39:32.640
go ahead you can say i mean i just i think i know what it was

00:39:30.560 --> 00:39:34.960
i want to see if i get it right well now i'm trying to think of what

00:39:33.680 --> 00:39:41.079
you're thinking no no no don't try to think of what i'm thinking try to think of the worst project you worked on the

00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.079
whole time you're here

00:39:43.040 --> 00:39:48.880
uh i can't

00:39:46.560 --> 00:39:52.640
i don't know ces was pretty tough it wasn't the worst project but it was like

00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:57.680
really really tough san francisco as well the AMD factory tour that's what i

00:39:54.720 --> 00:40:02.880
was to say okay yeah yeah allen that was pretty rough yep like we flew

00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:06.560
out very early morning didn't we we were up at like three and

00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:11.040
then we worked because yeah it was like a 6 a.m or like a 7 a.m flight or

00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.520
something stupid like that and then we we landed

00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:21.520
and worked all day and then we had another like 6 or 7 a.m

00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:25.119
flight home yeah i remember getting back i remember getting a hotel at like 9 30

00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:32.000
or like 10 o'clock or something like that and you were like set your alarm we're up at 2 a.m and i was like oh okay

00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:36.160
and then we came back to the office i only lasted until like we got there

00:40:33.839 --> 00:40:39.680
got here at like 10 a.m yeah i think and then you stayed in for like another

00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:43.280
three or four hours yeah and like i didn't even ask you to

00:40:41.680 --> 00:40:48.720
i thought i had to oh really yeah well like okay i stayed

00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:51.359
because i didn't have a choice like i had

00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:55.920
that whole trip was just kind of a cluster yeah because AMD sprung it on us

00:40:54.160 --> 00:41:00.000
at the last minute and they were just like well we're gonna have like the most

00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:04.720
exclusive thing ever it's a super computer made of vegas and we were like

00:41:02.240 --> 00:41:09.280
yo we have our ltx this that was a year ago yeah yeah

00:41:07.520 --> 00:41:15.040
holy crap so we were like yeah we have our ltx expo like like now we need to

00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.760
you know we would need to be there and back in one day and they're like yeah we

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:23.760
can make it happen like okay people are asking if you got fired

00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:27.920
because you dropped the test bench you know what i think it took Linus about a

00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:32.079
year to think it over and then he brought me into his office and said you

00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:32.880
know what i can't get over it

00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:38.560
no no we're we're actually pretty chill and

00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:42.079
if i had to be honest i don't think we've ever addressed this publicly but

00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:46.160
if i had to be honest about it that was at least 40 percent my fault

00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:54.319
i'll take it i'll take it i was the one who propped it up like

00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:57.040
that that was me not max you know what i said

00:41:55.119 --> 00:42:01.599
that doesn't look like the best idea she did say that

00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:04.720
however i did say max can you hold this while i answered the

00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:09.040
door and he trusted me during my probation

00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:15.520
so oh this is great it is 602 i'm no longer

00:42:13.359 --> 00:42:19.280
your boss you can answer honestly okay uh hold on let's learn it okay is Linus

00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:23.760
a good boss i don't know someone else it's going like super it's going super fast yep

00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:27.680
you don't you don't have to lie you don't have to lie anymore there's no

00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.640
pressure i gotta stay for this yeah no like he yeah

00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:34.720
was a great boss i know it's over

00:42:32.640 --> 00:42:37.200
all right what else we got here um

00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.960
pregnant uh remember everyone's everyone's

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:47.520
what people are asking do they think i'm pregnant do you think i'm leaving

00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:50.880
because i'm pregnant no i don't think this is good i don't

00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:53.040
think you have to answer that question i'm

00:42:56.839 --> 00:43:04.400
not um someone has a question oh why isn't your

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:08.400
hair blue i saw i've been wondering that i saw a 15 year old girl at walmart and

00:43:06.560 --> 00:43:11.839
um she had literally the exact same hair as me um

00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:15.280
it was really she was like following me around like there was no way she needed

00:43:13.520 --> 00:43:18.000
to be in the cereal aisle the same time i was in the cereal aisle

00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:22.240
and so she just like i i don't know i felt really stressed out and i had a hair

00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:26.560
appointment the next day anyways and i was like so we got to get rid of this and she's like let's just do it now

00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.380
and i just blacked out woke up blonde hair

00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:36.319
really it was time did you feel old

00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:40.240
oh yeah i get no it's just that i didn't

00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:47.440
want to identify as somebody that has the same hair as like a 15 year old

00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:47.440
so you felt so it's not that i felt

00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:55.359
oh dang yeah so it was time

00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:58.000
oh wow i wish i'd asked before that's fantastic

00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:04.960
twitch chat thinks all girls are pregnant that's that's apparently why

00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:09.200
that came up i don't i don't know i don't spend enough time on twitch to uh

00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:13.760
um let's see do you want to take one more question

00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:21.880
no that's not me yeah okay sure let's do one more 75 is the answer um

00:44:17.359 --> 00:44:21.880
what's the best part of the job here

00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:27.440
i don't work here anymore i can't answer that

00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:32.240
i don't know every thing it's pretty chill i don't know i

00:44:30.640 --> 00:44:37.599
get to like hang out with

00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.200
cool people and nice cameras

00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.720
it's definitely not a desk job which is what i had last time and right so that

00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:45.359
was really cool being able to like do different things every day and like walk

00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:49.599
around and be creative right yeah i think some of

00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:54.800
your finest work was actually one of the last things you shot here um this video

00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:59.839
right here is not up on uh it's not up on youtube yet but it's

00:44:57.680 --> 00:45:03.680
on Floatplane so i'm just gonna this one yeah here we go um and i

00:45:02.319 --> 00:45:08.480
believe you did all the lighting for this didn't you so

00:45:06.319 --> 00:45:13.760
at in the in the early in the early parts of her tenure max relied on

00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:18.960
brandon a lot for help in terms of not operating a camera necessarily but in

00:45:16.319 --> 00:45:22.480
terms of lighting shots and um and the composition of her shots and

00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:27.760
all that kind of stuff and she actually did this whole video

00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:33.359
which i thought was absolutely fantastic when i when i watched it the other day

00:45:30.319 --> 00:45:36.079
uh including like the the sort of

00:45:33.359 --> 00:45:38.960
uh the black backdrop there the the pedestals here this this is really cool

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:44.480
so in this part right here i'm gonna walk from sort of an early model m to a newer

00:45:43.680 --> 00:45:50.800
one i hope i have this muted right now yup i got it muted right now

00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:53.680
um and we this was really janky the way that we had to do it because we don't

00:45:52.240 --> 00:45:59.680
have the proper equipment for it but i thought it was really creative and just

00:45:57.200 --> 00:46:02.960
really well done in a cool way so uh yeah i don't know it it kind of felt

00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:06.880
like a fitting last project actually because visually

00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:10.000
it's one of the coolest videos i think that we've ever done so

00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:15.200
it was all james's idea he said do we really have to do this and

00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:19.200
he goes yeah let me see if i can just find one of the

00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:22.079
spots where we have one of the uh the movement bits

00:46:22.640 --> 00:46:27.520
it's okay here we go there we go this is the part that i

00:46:26.240 --> 00:46:31.440
wanted that i wanted to show you guys that interlacing though isn't that beautiful

00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:35.760
yes so i put down the keyboard

00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:39.040
and with a little bit of post work do you want to tell them how this was shot

00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:42.640
because it's yeah horrendous uh what are those things dolly it's not a dolly it's

00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:48.960
a handy mover yeah it's like a handy mover so we had uh a tripod with a red

00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:54.160
and a prompter and like a little audio module that like we had um a boom

00:46:51.839 --> 00:46:58.880
plugged into and like we sandbagged the tripod onto this handy mover

00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:02.960
and we had we basically like the way the handy

00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:07.200
mover works you need to move in one direction or else it like gets all weird

00:47:05.520 --> 00:47:10.960
so i don't know i had it like this i had one hand on the handy mover one hand on

00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:16.560
the handle of the red and i just pulled it back and we had ed on the left side

00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.760
of me with um just like a soft box

00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:21.680
on wheels and he was pulling it back and then we

00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:24.319
had dennis booming and he was just walking back and then we had james as

00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:29.200
well like kind of beside me with a bounce and he was walking back with us

00:47:27.520 --> 00:47:33.680
and Linus had to do this while reading off a prompter and like putting

00:47:31.839 --> 00:47:40.079
a borrowed keyboard on back on a pattern so carefully

00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:42.079
yeah not my keyboard like 200 300

00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:45.760
keyboard on ebay because they're very rare um

00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:50.839
a lot of fun though okay the last question is from me oh okay

00:47:48.319 --> 00:47:56.400
are you going to ask me for a reference huh

00:47:53.280 --> 00:48:00.160
i'm just i'm idly curious i have not

00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:02.640
considered looking for another job yet

00:48:00.160 --> 00:48:06.560
so haven't gone to that point in my life maybe

00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:11.130
all right sounds good well i think did we do the handshake thing

00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:12.640
oh really

00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:20.079
all right and on that note thank you very much for all your time here and uh

00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.960
have a great weekend of liberte i'm gonna have

00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:27.200
yeah or a month wi-fi yeah have a great life

00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:30.079
all right see you max bye i'm gonna cross the train again

00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:38.880
on that happy note i returned hey

00:48:36.720 --> 00:48:43.599
how's it going yeah speaking of people who don't work here anymore wow

00:48:42.160 --> 00:48:49.599
yeah actually no one was on the show with you this week that works here

00:48:46.839 --> 00:48:54.000
yeah how interesting you know what

00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:55.920
i'm gonna call that uh a solo ancho and

00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:59.440
i'm gonna give myself an extra gold star for doing a great job of the WAN Show

00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:03.200
all by myself that's not how that works not how that works no one at all

00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:10.319
uh all right so we've got other tech news i think but

00:49:08.640 --> 00:49:14.640
honestly we actually don't have a ton of time um we're in we're in negative time

00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:18.000
yeah should we start to just like burn through stuff pretty quick here bye sure

00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:23.280
my i'm just putting my coffee oh you're just putting your coffee away oh okay

00:49:21.520 --> 00:49:27.440
well bye nick bye nick you're not leaving permanently are you forever oh

00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:32.640
yeah yeah well i i might as well say he might be he's going

00:49:30.720 --> 00:49:37.280
yeah sure whatever have fun with no internet buddy guys yeah

00:49:34.640 --> 00:49:41.520
enjoy that i think they have wi-fi yeah i'm pretty sure no no wi-fi

00:49:39.680 --> 00:49:46.640
no no it's just it's just in general just like yeah no no she i understood what she

00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:49.680
meant they just don't have uh like an internet line into her grandparents

00:49:48.640 --> 00:49:51.920
house i think that's what she's trying to say

00:49:52.720 --> 00:50:00.400
yeah yeah all right nice okay

00:49:56.640 --> 00:50:03.359
so Windows 10 redstone 5 gets telephony

00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:08.559
apis telephony telephony yeah thank you uh hinting at a surface phone

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:12.720
apparently microsoft might not have learned their lesson um but the API's

00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:16.079
cover support for a range of typical phone features including dialing numbers

00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:20.160
and contacts blocking withheld numbers support for bluetooth headsets speakerphone mode etc and there looks to

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:25.119
be some kind of video calling support suggesting support for 3g or lte video

00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:28.079
calling i would love to see like this is

00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:31.440
something i haven't been able to figure out for the longest time um

00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.680
this doesn't necessarily mean they're going to do a phone again it could just mean they're going to add phone

00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:38.880
functionality to surface devices which is hopefully what it is like the four

00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:43.520
people that would care about the other option yeah like i don't like

00:50:41.760 --> 00:50:46.559
disappointment nothing personally yeah yeah their amount of disappointment is

00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:51.520
not worth it um other good microsoft news they rolled

00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:55.119
out the xbox april update which gives you free sync over

00:50:52.839 --> 00:51:00.480
HDMI that's actually super cool support for 1440p which paired with that

00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:05.119
freesync support uh some freesync is on all and 1440p is on the one x and the

00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:08.720
one s means that you could be looking at a significantly better gaming experience

00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.240
if you're like living in a dorm and you game on your monitor and you've got like

00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:15.599
a cheap korean monitor off of ebay or whatever because there are ones with

00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:21.680
freesync we actually did check one out recently that was a fantastic value

00:51:19.359 --> 00:51:24.400
um it's got support for auto low latency mode which will tell your television

00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:30.559
that you're playing a game so it can switch the display mode i didn't know that yeah that's pretty cool uh updated

00:51:28.720 --> 00:51:34.240
mixing mixer streaming service to include the ability to share control of

00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:38.079
a game with a user on mixer.com that's actually pretty sick

00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:41.200
unfortunately uh with all of this there is no

00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:45.280
uh there's still no end game for sea of thieves so

00:51:43.680 --> 00:51:48.800
do you want to do this one not really sure

00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.800
i was supposed to buy sc2 mitch on the forum

00:51:52.160 --> 00:51:58.079
go ahead what does that even mean uh i'm posting this in the twitch chat but

00:51:56.319 --> 00:52:01.920
apparently finland is uh

00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:05.599
i'm tripping over myself what is literally what does this mean okay uh

00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:09.680
finland classifies esports as a traditional sport apparently there's a

00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:14.480
quote that says esports is now being treated as a traditional sport in an

00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:19.200
administrative sense okay though we don't want to outweigh the importance of

00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:23.200
traditional sports i still i don't know what in an administrative sense fully so

00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:29.040
there's some good stuff here basically if uh if an esports e-athlete wants to

00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:32.480
come into the country to compete in an event for example

00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.599
obtaining visas will be easy yeah so there's some good stuff it'll help teams

00:52:34.160 --> 00:52:41.280
obtain government funding if they're based in the country and tax benefits for athletes as well

00:52:39.200 --> 00:52:44.559
e-athletes you know okay so that's cool i'm never

00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:48.960
gonna do it i'm sorry but i'm never gonna call them athletes i'm okay with

00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:53.040
this they're e-athletes okay it takes an extremely high degree of skill and

00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:56.559
precision and all this kind of stuff but it's just a different form but it's not

00:52:54.240 --> 00:53:00.079
athleticism it's a different form um

00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:04.640
and there can be benefits to that extreme control from being like an

00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:08.960
athletic person and different being in good athletic cardiovascular shape

00:53:07.680 --> 00:53:13.119
yeah they're just not the same thing yeah um

00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:17.520
whoa if you were wondering if the mining

00:53:15.040 --> 00:53:21.119
craze has reached the plateau and is coming down

00:53:18.720 --> 00:53:26.800
taiwanese graphics card makers to see shipments plunge 40

00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:29.440
in april so this includes Gigabyte MSI

00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:33.040
and tool um many clients have suspended taking

00:53:31.359 --> 00:53:37.280
shipments in response to the drastic slowdown in demand for cryptocurrency

00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:40.800
mining machines many mining farm operators are apparently awaiting the

00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:45.920
rollout of ethereum mining machines by china's bit main in the third quarter of

00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.920
2018.

00:53:47.839 --> 00:53:53.920
there's a rumor that apple's working on an 8k times 2 vr headset

00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:59.440
um an 8k display for each eye that would be fantastic

00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:03.359
i don't know how like big this thing would be uh the box would be powered by

00:54:01.680 --> 00:54:07.440
a custom apple processor that's more powerful than anything currently available and it would act as the brain

00:54:06.160 --> 00:54:13.200
for the headset uh in its current state the box resembles a pc tower but it won't be an

00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:17.040
actual mac computer there's a few things that i'm really

00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:20.640
surprised aren't in the dock and i don't have

00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:24.480
notes on it obviously but to like stepping stone you guys on to looking

00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:28.800
into yourself there's apparently a huge lawsuit going on right now over RAM

00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:35.280
pricing that we just got a bunch of news about uh there's uh eric lundgren

00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:41.599
is possibly going to prison for repairing or for uh

00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.680
burning freeware onto disks that is in

00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:48.400
here and then oh it is okay so that was posted by ken blue24 on the forum that

00:54:45.680 --> 00:54:53.200
actually is really important to cover um let's go ahead and

00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:59.119
so an e-waste activist gets 15 months in prison for selling Windows restore disks

00:54:56.559 --> 00:55:01.839
yeah so these were downloaded from i don't know if you guys are gonna

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:07.280
remember this to be completely honest but back in the day uh you would get

00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:12.960
restore disks with your laptop or your pc uh your desktop sorry and now you can

00:55:11.119 --> 00:55:16.559
download them and burn them yourself or put them onto flash drives or whatever

00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:20.079
and he would charge as far as i know he would charge 20. 25 cents he was

00:55:18.319 --> 00:55:24.800
charging for which is essentially the essentially disc yes like the physical

00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:28.160
medium that he put it on to yeah there are a few additional problems that not a

00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:33.440
lot of people are putting light on one of them is that apparently they were labeled

00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:37.760
as like microsoft Windows which causes a big problem yeah that's a

00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:43.440
big intellectual property problem but that was not the focus

00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:50.559
of the court case right the focus of the court case was apparently selling the

00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:53.680
software um when clearly the software is

00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:55.760
available for download and cannot be

00:55:53.680 --> 00:56:00.000
activated without a license and the license key is what actually matters

00:55:57.839 --> 00:56:04.640
here and he wasn't selling license keys he was selling he was

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:09.520
selling helping people who had lost their recovery disk

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:13.359
get Windows back on their computer with their existing license in a really nice

00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:17.280
way because he was helping you do it yourself and he was doing it for 25

00:56:15.520 --> 00:56:21.839
cents the cost of the disc that doesn't it doesn't properly in my opinion

00:56:18.799 --> 00:56:24.240
include uh labor that that's like taking

00:56:21.839 --> 00:56:27.839
some business away from him directly and microsoft apparently as far as i know

00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:32.640
went after him for the perceived value so i think it was

00:56:29.680 --> 00:56:36.799
like twenty dollars a disc yeah so saying that it was worth like almost

00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:41.440
three quarters of a million dollars um and apparently their problem with all

00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:47.280
of this is that it is causing lost sales but that is a very frankly uh

00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:51.599
argument it's completely incorrect because those people already have a

00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:55.440
license for Windows so we shouldn't be trying to sell them another license for

00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:58.640
Windows because they already have one and that is what is known in the

00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:03.440
industry as a dick move

00:57:01.359 --> 00:57:07.040
so there's a couple of problems here um he did break the law he did

00:57:06.240 --> 00:57:12.880
sell copyrighted material which is wrong and

00:57:09.839 --> 00:57:14.240
bad and illegal

00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:20.240
but this kind of behavior the intent because

00:57:17.200 --> 00:57:23.440
i'm a firm believer that we should look

00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:24.559
not at the action so much as at the

00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:29.200
intent like if someone's like

00:57:27.359 --> 00:57:34.640
you're a dick that's obviously really different from

00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.599
you know what you're a really nice guy

00:57:34.640 --> 00:57:42.559
yeah so there's what you say but there's what you mean and in this case yes what he

00:57:40.319 --> 00:57:46.880
did was technically incorrect and technically illegal but it's the kind of

00:57:44.720 --> 00:57:50.720
thing where i think a letter probably would have done the trick and not and

00:57:48.640 --> 00:57:55.599
like yeah it comes down to the the basics of does the punishment match the

00:57:53.200 --> 00:58:01.359
crime and this is that's right extremely not the case if someone was

00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:05.359
driving down the road at 200 kilometers an hour

00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:10.480
and they blow through a school zone they would be unlikely to get 15 months

00:58:07.359 --> 00:58:13.040
in prison in spite of the fact that

00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:16.880
okay maybe no one actually gets hurt but they could have really dangerous easily

00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:21.520
like you know hit a rock at that kind of a

00:58:19.680 --> 00:58:24.880
speed in a residential area and this thing this kind of stuff happens they

00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:28.720
could have easily like hit a rock and flown into someone's house or like run

00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:34.960
over a bunch of school children or whatever they can fire it out and nailed someone

00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:37.440
they will not get 15 months in prison

00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:39.280
and here we're talking about in

00:58:38.319 --> 00:58:45.040
with as far as we can tell a good intention

00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:48.079
someone printing these disks and making them available to people who are not

00:58:46.640 --> 00:58:52.400
tech savvy enough to download them on their own and we're putting this person in prison

00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:56.640
for 15 months this really doesn't make a ton of sense to me someone in twitch

00:58:54.079 --> 00:59:01.119
chat was like right to travel and honestly i don't blame the courts

00:58:58.640 --> 00:59:05.359
for this i don't blame the law i don't blame the court system i blame microsoft

00:59:03.200 --> 00:59:09.119
microsoft should not be going after this guy they should have

00:59:07.040 --> 00:59:13.760
sent a strongly worded letter told them not to do it and

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:18.079
ideally created a system where people can download these recovery disks far

00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:22.000
more easily because as much as the disk does usually say on it don't lose this

00:59:20.319 --> 00:59:28.559
or you won't be able to reinstall that's bs2 there's absolutely no reason why

00:59:25.200 --> 00:59:31.040
physical media it is 2018

00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:35.280
there's no reason why physical media should prevent you in any way from

00:59:33.200 --> 00:59:39.520
installing and using your software that you have a valid license for

00:59:38.319 --> 00:59:44.799
so i guess that's all i have to say about that there's there's yeah there's there's legitimate issues with the use

00:59:42.799 --> 00:59:47.760
of logos names or whatever but they took it too far

00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:53.839
they should have said don't use our logos that's like someone uploading a meme on

00:59:51.520 --> 00:59:58.240
the internet with my face in it and us immediately going straight to a lawsuit

00:59:56.480 --> 01:00:02.240
rather than being like you know yo you've crossed the line

00:59:59.680 --> 01:00:06.319
there you actually can't use that we usually like memes yeah we love it so

01:00:04.319 --> 01:00:10.160
go ahead please do it i saw one with you in it recently where

01:00:08.319 --> 01:00:13.119
it was like the four panel one and you like run into an apple store with money

01:00:11.520 --> 01:00:19.280
in your hand have you seen it i posted that on twitter the lost meme yeah yeah it's fantastic

01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:24.079
it's so funny nobody sent that to me you know how i found it

01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:25.680
for the first time ever read it i was

01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:29.440
bored oh i don't remember the last time i was

01:00:27.520 --> 01:00:33.359
bored you got so much on your plate my kids were doing something and i like

01:00:31.520 --> 01:00:38.720
needed to supervise them and i needed to kind of be there but like so i

01:00:36.799 --> 01:00:42.799
went to our slash all and i made it four pages in and i was

01:00:40.240 --> 01:00:46.720
like holy crap that's me because it wasn't in like pcmr or like

01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.480
any of the places that i would normally pay attention to where was it uh i'm

01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:56.480
gonna have to check uh Linus mac lost meme reddit that

01:00:54.240 --> 01:00:59.839
should not bring it up uh

01:00:57.680 --> 01:01:03.359
no um

01:01:01.359 --> 01:01:06.319
wow yeah i don't think i'm even like mentioned in it though

01:01:07.359 --> 01:01:13.440
yeah i can't even like i can't even find it now

01:01:11.520 --> 01:01:17.680
uh i'll have to go on our twitter and like find our post of the of the reddit

01:01:16.160 --> 01:01:20.880
page but like oh yeah cause i didn't send it to you

01:01:19.520 --> 01:01:24.400
because i noticed that you had posted it i

01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:29.760
remember that now or was it your personal one uh no no it

01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:31.839
was on the uh the company one

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:34.960
i figured it was on topic enough yeah i think so

01:01:33.839 --> 01:01:39.440
there we go no found this on okay crap i didn't i

01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:41.839
didn't i didn't post the link to reddit dang it

01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:50.079
that was funny imac loss right at imac loss

01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:54.799
nope yep can't find it i'm sure someone has posted it in twitch chat by now yeah

01:01:53.520 --> 01:01:58.880
no twitch chat is full of people complaining about reddit search

01:01:57.119 --> 01:02:02.000
yeah well there you go um

01:02:00.319 --> 01:02:05.119
wow this is awesome we have a stay hydrated bot

01:02:03.359 --> 01:02:08.240
you've been live for just over an hour i modded it by this point in your

01:02:06.640 --> 01:02:12.720
broadcast you should have consumed four ounces 120 milliliters of water to

01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:18.559
maintain optimal hydration stay hydrated body is amazing how am i doing here

01:02:15.200 --> 01:02:18.559
oh wow i'm like double that

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:23.359
keep going well that's still cold ow

01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:29.440
i have an insulated bottle now so i'm not used to it it's like really good

01:02:27.440 --> 01:02:33.520
though i got this on amazon you like can't even it's like not cold

01:02:31.839 --> 01:02:37.680
at all there's still ice in there you did show me up at lunch oh i played

01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:40.480
along to like try to bring the stream all right so thanks for

01:02:39.040 --> 01:02:44.240
watching guys we'll see you again next week same bedtime same bat channel

01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:48.280
bye guys uh intro

01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:54.079
already had some people applying thank you

01:02:54.319 --> 01:02:58.000
apply harder please

01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:06.880
straight up like i still can't find it tried Linus mac meme

01:03:04.240 --> 01:03:11.040
let's try Linus mac meme reddit is this my summary of the Linus tech

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:14.319
tips controversy is that it nope oh wow that's

01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:18.079
that's interesting uh the show is brought to you by private internet

01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:21.920
access spectrum and ltx and also this is weird

01:03:26.319 --> 01:03:32.640
i haven't even found i've never i haven't even seen this there is so much

01:03:30.319 --> 01:03:39.839
discussion of this i think even more than the tampon thing i love how amazon

01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:39.839
how stupid that is

01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:42.319
um

01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:48.079
yeah the top comment this is interesting it's not like they were asking apple to

01:03:46.720 --> 01:03:54.000
fix it under warranty he said he was willing and expecting to pay for it here's the biggest issue he's voided the

01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:58.000
warranty in a spectacular way it doesn't matter even if he pays double the cost

01:03:55.920 --> 01:04:03.520
of the mac just to fix it which would be super dumb because you could never pay

01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:05.119
more than the cost of the mac to fix it

01:04:03.520 --> 01:04:10.799
apple then has to give a warranty on the repair then that puts them in all sorts of poo

01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:14.720
if something else is broken due to his tampering no because nothing else could

01:04:12.319 --> 01:04:18.640
be broken because the entire thing would be brand new

01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:23.559
that's not how this stuff works it's just you know what well we'll make a

01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:23.559
video later bye