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hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to the WAN Show we've got a
fantastic show planned out for you today at least i think we do i wouldn't know i
had nothing to do with the planning hooray hooray but in all seriousness
we've got a couple of guests one of whom
is another creator that we have actually never collaborated with before so that's
pretty exciting and the second is someone whose final day
here at Linus media group is today we are doing uh oh yeah i guess you
probably didn't know about that we are doing a fight i didn't know they
were coming off yeah yeah we are doing a farewell farewell stream for for one of
our one of our staffers who's been here uh
over a year now actually wow it's amazing how time flies so we've got a
bunch of great topics lined up for you um including Intel's 10 nanometer delay
Intel is i mean is this like the first time
in how many decades that Intel hasn't been
at the bleeding edge of process node tech it's gonna be really interesting
because they might be in trouble um apple apple to move touch digitizer and
wait what does that even mean that called oh oh apple's ditching 3d touch
jim keller joins Intel this is big news if you don't know who jim keller is
basically he's like uh CPU design
like jesus i went with jesus to make it like not
sort of offensive did it help at all no
okay what else we got uh Windows 10 redstone
5 gets telephony apis hinting at a surface
phone um which i thought i thought they learned their lesson already on that one
but maybe you know second time second time give it
give it another shot give it another shot all right so speaking of giving it
another shot let's give another shot at rolling this intro
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like summer weather here all right yeah so why don't we jump into our first
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hi so welcome to the show jason how are you doing uh we are fantastic a
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it's friday uh tgif i know right as if it meant
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jason who there's actually a lot of that going on right now so why don't you do a
quick intro to yourself or anyone who hasn't stumbled across your videos over
on the tube uh my name is jason i run a youtube
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and the best deals and builds and all sorts of fun stuff uh just just picture
me as a much smaller younger version of Linus like five years ago
wow i mean with all the with all the shade
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gonna have to bring in some more lights or you wouldn't even be able to see our
glistening foreheads here and he's keeping it up so uh
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because people like that stuff because people want to know how like the new
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to happen back back in the house back in the
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now you what what is this like attack Linus show
the lancho well you answered the question
you answered the question of where he could be found with a youtube link
instead of mentioning the new thing ah yes so i totally
screwed up and it's it's totally my fault that especially luke is going
after me you have a here i'll fix it mind you uh oh okay you just don't have
a thing all right all right you can find him there can i okay so this is this is
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nice tech tips bit with ultra and right there tech deals is now live on the
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all right so why don't we actually do something that we rarely do on WAN Show
here and actually get into a tech topic
oh wow um so the this was originally posted on the Linus tech tips forum by
samsee and the original article here is from tom's hardware
uh but basically this this is absolutely
huge Intel's 10 nanometer technology is and
the headline says this is uh pretty pretty savage here actually is
broken and apparently delayed until 2019.
now if the rest of the industry were going through the same challenges this
wouldn't even really be that newsworthy except
that the word on the street is that AMD
is already in the prototyping stages
using seven nanometer technology from their partner global boundaries yeah
yeah yeah yeah the um
and this isn't to to add a little bit too this isn't rumor mill stuff i often
complain like oh i don't like rumors this was from a i believe a
shareholders call yeah so during their quarterly earnings call and this was
yesterday Intel basically was like
yup this is a thing
i don't and it's not too surprising they've been like
a lot of the news lately of like oh this person has been hired
uh for Intel has been like them poaching from other companies pretty aggressively
so it seems like they knew there was a problem they've been trying to pull people in to solve it
i mean jason do you think they were trying to bury this news somewhat under
an extremely strong quarter one earnings
they were i mean they they had great earnings but their their desktop
business is flat it's their services business that's up and it looks like
we're going to be getting yet another iteration of 14 nanometer beyond coffee
like believe it or not holy crap
i mean this is kind of does this feel really similar to what started happening
with gpus right around the 28 nanometer time yeah
when is the last time AMD had the chance of having a CPU at a
smaller production process than Intel
i don't think i've been a computer enthusiast long enough for AMD to have
even been on the same process known as Intel and i don't mean where they like
Intel when it went ahead and then AMD caught up and then until when like i
mean for AMD to have like launched at around a similar time with uh
using the same manufacturing process as Intel so just for for those of you who
aren't familiar with what this means there are a number of things that make a
CPU or a GPU or any kind of processor
inherently better so uh adding more cash for
example adding smarter cash that is as long as it's not
suffering from spectre or meltdown related issues um my minor problem
increasing the clock speed uh all of these things help so architectural
changes to the design of the chip and how its logic works
these help performance and can potentially help efficiency but
the kind of freebie that for decades now
we've pretty much taken for granted is shrinking the manufacturing process so
the size of the transistors with a couple of notable exceptions this
inherently makes the chips more power efficient and smaller allowing you to
increase the complexity i mean that's why a CPU today can have in excess of
like 20 megabytes of cash whereas back when i was getting into this stuff i
mean having 256 kilobytes or 512
kilobytes was considered did he just take jerky
no he didn't okay never mind you know having
256 kilobytes or 512 kilobytes was
considered pretty darn good so AMD
by manufacturing on a smaller
process inherently has an advantage in terms of
power consumption and chip complexity that Intel has just
taken for granted for the last what 20 years
yeah pretty much it's given them their huge advantage
that's incredible so
i mean there's a couple other just sort of housekeeping items here they're
shipping cannon lake and low volume
haven't pointed to specific customers or products
and basically their multi-patterning process is generating too many yield
reducing defects to produce 10 nanometer cost effectively so that's another thing
that the layperson would not necessarily be aware of
when you're manufacturing it's not just about can you make a CPU Intel could
probably make a CPU at 10 nanometer or even a node or even
two nodes below if all they had to make was one CPU and it could cost them six
million dollars to produce or whatever the case may be um
but for them to make it cost effective enough that they can bring these 10
nanometer products to market and actually sell them at a price that would
be acceptable to consumers and competitive with their own 14 nanometer
products well for that you have to have a significant amount of the wafer actually
be usable and they can accept small defects and you'll often see that in the
form of something like a core i5 or a core i3 where they'll turn off some
cache or turn off a couple of course that's perfectly acceptable
but for them to not ship at all means they are not getting enough even usable
dies to productize the thing
well we may actually see AMD pull ahead in performance then for a change because
ryzen's awesome but it's still per core not quite as fast but what if that
changes by next year so one thing that's
sort of a a potential asap AMD sleeve is that
we've seen second generation ryzen
and i mean whatever the hype train might have said you know our thoughts on it
were okay i mean yeah it's it's more better for
the same price i'm certainly not going to say no yeah
no send it back make another reward to the improvements
um but there was nothing revolutionary about it what we haven't
seen from AMD yet is something that they have clearly indicated is on their
roadmap and that is zen two so that's an actual architectural improvement to zen
that's more than just okay we shrunk the node node a little bit like like a
fraction of a node down and we've reduced power consumption a little
bit even though it ended up not actually amounting to much and we've increased clock speed
so can you imagine what the world looks like where AMD outperforms Intel
i i like i it's kind of exciting because i think it'll light a fire under Intel
again and we've been saying this for a long time it's going to be weird consumer
wise because even if AMD is ahead of Intel in that
way it'll be interesting to see how fast or even if the market really shifts that
much because people have been ingrained to just buy Intel stuff for so long now
i'm gonna go ahead i'm gonna say something that might be a little unpopular
um with the AMD fanboys out there i don't think it's going to affect
consumer choice very much at all that's what that's where i was kind of going with that is i i think people are still
going to buy it i think yeah i think AMD is going to
raise prices and the people who are going to buy AMD are going to buy AMD because it's a good
choice and the people who buy Intel are going to buy Intel
well that was kind of true back in the pentium 4 days when you had athlon xp
yeah and in particular i mean the pentium 4 wasn't even the worst because
the pentium 4 legitimately outperformed
the athlon xp i mean the us AMD people you know i had a 2500
plus and i overclocked it to 2.2 gigahertz which would have made it a
3200 plus by bumping the front side bus from 333 to 400. okay
no no crap no it was from 266 to 330 whatever whatever it was it was very
confusing because AMD back in those days would actually have multiple models of
the same processor at different front side bus speeds and then just with like
different multipliers and because of board compatibility with
because remember that was back when third-party chip sets existed yeah right
remember via chipsets enforce
last from the past i know right so so anyway i i had a 2500 plus and i had it
overclocked to a 3200 plus which AMD very optimistically would compare to
Intel's 3.2 gigahertz but if we're being honest with ourselves
i was one of those people who was like you know what hyper threading is not
real processor cores so you know what my 3200 plus is like as good as your 3.2
gigahertz p4 um but in actuality hyper
threading was a good thing and this wasn't something that i actually discovered until
dual cores were sort of the norm in the enthusiast circles and i got my hands on
a p4c 2.4 gigahertz so this was a northwood c
and this was an m0 stepping this was a cool chip this is a 2.4
gigahertz chip that was capable of like four plus do people hunt that stuff as
much as they used to a p force a p4 800
c d a p f p 4 c 800 e deluxe
that's an ASUS board from back in the day that was actually the board that i
had that i was playing around with this m0 stepping on and that was m0 stepping
was out of like a salvage system someone had given to me when i built them a new
one i was like you had no idea what you had here i mean
dual cores were obviously still better but i was like oh hyper threading worked
this is cool and overclocked man that thing was fast
anyway what am i talking about again right a p4c800d deluxe those still go
for a hundred bucks on ebay i look really i looked at it last week
because we're planning like a blast from the past machine
and we want to overclock the snot out of it and if you want to overclock the snot
out of a p4c a pentium 4c um then you really do need
a p4c800d deluxe and um so we are probably going to pay a hundred dollars
for a 10 year old motherboard in the near future that's a crime
a hundred dollars all i remember is that
the pentium threes were good and then the athlons came out
and i skipped most of the pentium fours because frankly
yes you could get a pentium four that was faster but it costs so much more
money than an athlon that's true
the board was more expensive the chip was more expensive to get the most out
of it you needed dual channel memory which back then was
like can you remember that rambus RAM crazy expensive yeah rambus RAM i
actually there's a gap in my pc enthusiasm in between the pentium one
and uh the p4 post rambus
so i never had to deal with round this memory
you've never had rambus i have never had rambus in fact i don't think i've ever
even talked about it so feel free to tell our audience for maybe the first
time they've ever heard about it because they're uh if you if you listen to our
our our haters they're all kids um so they yeah go ahead and educate them i
wouldn't want to put a a a a hat on or anything but basically Intel wanted a
piece of the RAM market oh did i say that out loud so they wanted to get
everybody off of ddr RAM and they wanted to go to rambus because they had
royalties and patents on it it was supposed to be faster and it was but it
had higher latency and other issues or vice versa but essentially they thought
that their market clout would force everybody and you could buy an athlon
instead which used the cheaper ddr RAM and cheaper boards and yes pentium was
10 20 faster but you paid
double triple the money for 10 or 20 speed it was silly
that would be a tremendous
video standards that Intel has pushed over the
years that died we've got rambus we've got btx
we've got uh what what what else just like off the top of our heads could we
uh uh oh oh oh do you guys remember vive
v i i v no i don't think so oh man oh it was
epic we had this uh we had this like like demo kit at the ncix headquarters
that i don't think literally was ever
taken out of its box i've seen this logo yeah yeah here hold on i'm gonna
uh here here's a Intel press room technology brief i'm just gonna show you
guys with my screen on my screen here here it is yeah baby Intel vive
maximize your home entertainment experience
this is Intel's brand for in-home entertainment pcs designed to transform
how consumers manage share and enjoy abroad and growing aspartame of movies
programs music games and photos
oh man look at this look how like delightfully two thousands all of this
looks like i recognize all the logos but i don't remember it at all it's probably because
it's home theater and i didn't care well the other thing too is that it
didn't matter at all because anything was vive
it was just kind of a meaningless label that you could put on an htpc with
like it was like the multipedia multimedia pc standard back in the 90s
vr ready yeah like look at oh
like look at these performance benchmarks they're like yes a vive
technology oh by the way it's a pen tmd processor
it's and then they compare it to just a p4 not vive and they're like oh
yes vive is much more better but it actually is just like
better cpus like here's a core 2 duo versus a p4571
what is the point exactly that you're trying to make
would you consider Intel's iatanium to be them trying to control 64-bit
um you know what i don't know enough about the itanic to really comment on it
um like in an in-depth technical way
because it was server tech at a time when we did
not dabble in server tech at all so what's your take because i feel like
you wouldn't ask me if you didn't have an opinion well they were trying to move the
industry off of their traditional x86
which of course AMD had a license to and the idea was that they would have
something that they could have exclusive and i'll bet an awful lot of people
today don't realize that the 64-bit technology we use today isn't Intel's
it's AMD's um that i itanium was Intel's attempt to
get everybody off a legacy platform and sort of take contr they've tried
multiple times over the years to try to retake control of the
of the of the CPU business from AMD
yeah i know
it will be considering all the stuff that happened 15 years ago with pentium
4 and and in athlon if
ryzen 3 ends up being 7 nanometers before Intel gets there
are you adding this to like no no but i
will we like definitely i thought you were like i'm doing this during the show
no no i don't think you'll forget that would be so that would be so much fun um
so on the subject of all of this lighting a fire under Intel's butt i
think we've got time for one more topic with you and i think this is probably
the best one uh jim keller
is joining Intel so this was posted by numlock21 on the forum and the original
article is wccf tech so whatever you might think about them you
can keep it to yourself because this is like a confirmed thing so just chill out
um but basically i mean this is not even this is not even
this doesn't do justice to to the guy's resume but it says AMD's zen and athlon
64 CPU architect so pretty much
the only times that AMD has built anything competitive with Intel in the
last 10 years um
the architect behind them jim keller has
joined Intel so this is after stints at
apple where i believe was he working on CPU or
GPU at apple do you do you remember
no no i can't i can't remember either and then he also did uh did some time at
tesla uh so he left AMD for tesla most
recently and then he was at uh apple in between AMD and uh AMD again i think
can't remember exactly but basically the guy is a legend in the CPU design
business and so now he
and raja kaduri who was the head of Radeon technologies
group under AMD are now both at Intel so if there was
any doubt that Intel is making a big push here
you can put that to rest it's gonna be interesting well he's he's
he's he was essentially uh played a key role responsible for the good cpus that
AMD frankly has ever designed because i don't know if you ever played around
with the old k6 and k5 chips back way back in the 90s but
they really struggled when they lost the ability to copy Intel's designs i mean
all the way through the 386 and whatnot they could copy Intel but then they had
to come up there k5 was late k5 was slow competing with the pentium right and
then k6 was okay but then the k7 was
athlon and so basically he did athlon xp
all the way through until they switched over to phenom and fx which he wasn't
involved with and then he did ryzen so basically he's done every good CPU AMD's
ever done i mean that's one way of putting it yep
um
man so he's joining as a senior vice president leading the company's silicon
engineering which encompasses system on chip development and integration
uh so he did uh oh yeah okay this is all in my notes did a multi-year stinted
apple between contributions to k8 and coming back to work on zen at apple he
led the design team to build the company's class-leading
mobile processors so in 2015 he left AMD to join tesla
where he's been leading the company's ai chip design teams to date
so if tesla produces some kind of chip design that is like
freaking awesome in the next year to four
uh he will basically definitely have had
a hand in that i mean what what does this mean for AMD
like they're gonna have a couple of good years here because one of the things that uh mr keller did
i don't know is he a doctor i don't know i've never never seen it
that way so i'm not sure i mean it seems like there's a pretty good chance anyway yeah one of the things that jim keller
did at AMD was he set out a road map for zen like this is zen one and then here's
like future generations of zen like here's here's
it's all plotted out for you but after that
what do they do where do you find another rock star like
that i don't know find good people and let
them do their thing i mean it's become very challenging
though i mean in the early days chip design was simple enough i mean
obviously it was already very complicated but it was simple enough
that there could be many people qualified to work on it
as time goes on for you to find someone with the
knowledge to work on current technology and the experience of everything that's
come before it something that does have a value and has a value more and more so
as the technology progresses to find those people is going to become more and
more difficult and when you're AMD you are competing with Intel to attract
those people and we can see who is winning that battle right now
yeah and it's not like he's retiring right away that's one thing i was going
to look into is like is the old guard gonna be retiring but he's not quite at
that age yet so no we can keep leaning on these guys
that's gonna be interesting
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okay not what i meant but um
oh really oh okay what are you doing in croatia i'm gonna go live um
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well ask some of the some of the questions that i'm sure people have on their minds guys go ahead and post in
the twitch chat if you have any questions for max i will do my best but
we're not going to have a ton of time because it's 5 59 and so officially in
one minute she super doesn't work here anymore and definitely doesn't have to
listen to me am i trespassing at that point um yeah do we have to like do we
have to escort her away no i've already taken all my keys but
she's a visitor but you're a visitor wow
okay so uh
favorite video project you worked on while you were here
oh i don't
the one at your house i forget which one but you dressed up as a grandmother and
tech then versus now yeah that was that was pretty fun that was
pretty fun so we were talking about sort of retro tech and uh
oh sorry so we were talking about sort of differences between technology when i
was a kid and when my kids were a kid and i guess technology from when i was a
kid was funny to you i suppose also it involved a lot of costumes that
was a lot of fun a lot of cross-dressing worst project
worst project i already think i know what you're going to say
and it was fun but it was also pretty horrible
go ahead you can say i mean i just i think i know what it was
i want to see if i get it right well now i'm trying to think of what
you're thinking no no no don't try to think of what i'm thinking try to think of the worst project you worked on the
whole time you're here
uh i can't
i don't know ces was pretty tough it wasn't the worst project but it was like
really really tough san francisco as well the AMD factory tour that's what i
was to say okay yeah yeah allen that was pretty rough yep like we flew
out very early morning didn't we we were up at like three and
then we worked because yeah it was like a 6 a.m or like a 7 a.m flight or
something stupid like that and then we we landed
and worked all day and then we had another like 6 or 7 a.m
flight home yeah i remember getting back i remember getting a hotel at like 9 30
or like 10 o'clock or something like that and you were like set your alarm we're up at 2 a.m and i was like oh okay
and then we came back to the office i only lasted until like we got there
got here at like 10 a.m yeah i think and then you stayed in for like another
three or four hours yeah and like i didn't even ask you to
i thought i had to oh really yeah well like okay i stayed
because i didn't have a choice like i had
that whole trip was just kind of a cluster yeah because AMD sprung it on us
at the last minute and they were just like well we're gonna have like the most
exclusive thing ever it's a super computer made of vegas and we were like
yo we have our ltx this that was a year ago yeah yeah
holy crap so we were like yeah we have our ltx expo like like now we need to
you know we would need to be there and back in one day and they're like yeah we
can make it happen like okay people are asking if you got fired
because you dropped the test bench you know what i think it took Linus about a
year to think it over and then he brought me into his office and said you
know what i can't get over it
no no we're we're actually pretty chill and
if i had to be honest i don't think we've ever addressed this publicly but
if i had to be honest about it that was at least 40 percent my fault
i'll take it i'll take it i was the one who propped it up like
that that was me not max you know what i said
that doesn't look like the best idea she did say that
however i did say max can you hold this while i answered the
door and he trusted me during my probation
so oh this is great it is 602 i'm no longer
your boss you can answer honestly okay uh hold on let's learn it okay is Linus
a good boss i don't know someone else it's going like super it's going super fast yep
you don't you don't have to lie you don't have to lie anymore there's no
pressure i gotta stay for this yeah no like he yeah
was a great boss i know it's over
all right what else we got here um
pregnant uh remember everyone's everyone's
what people are asking do they think i'm pregnant do you think i'm leaving
because i'm pregnant no i don't think this is good i don't
think you have to answer that question i'm
not um someone has a question oh why isn't your
hair blue i saw i've been wondering that i saw a 15 year old girl at walmart and
um she had literally the exact same hair as me um
it was really she was like following me around like there was no way she needed
to be in the cereal aisle the same time i was in the cereal aisle
and so she just like i i don't know i felt really stressed out and i had a hair
appointment the next day anyways and i was like so we got to get rid of this and she's like let's just do it now
and i just blacked out woke up blonde hair
really it was time did you feel old
oh yeah i get no it's just that i didn't
want to identify as somebody that has the same hair as like a 15 year old
so you felt so it's not that i felt
oh dang yeah so it was time
oh wow i wish i'd asked before that's fantastic
twitch chat thinks all girls are pregnant that's that's apparently why
that came up i don't i don't know i don't spend enough time on twitch to uh
um let's see do you want to take one more question
no that's not me yeah okay sure let's do one more 75 is the answer um
what's the best part of the job here
i don't work here anymore i can't answer that
i don't know every thing it's pretty chill i don't know i
get to like hang out with
cool people and nice cameras
it's definitely not a desk job which is what i had last time and right so that
was really cool being able to like do different things every day and like walk
around and be creative right yeah i think some of
your finest work was actually one of the last things you shot here um this video
right here is not up on uh it's not up on youtube yet but it's
on Floatplane so i'm just gonna this one yeah here we go um and i
believe you did all the lighting for this didn't you so
at in the in the early in the early parts of her tenure max relied on
brandon a lot for help in terms of not operating a camera necessarily but in
terms of lighting shots and um and the composition of her shots and
all that kind of stuff and she actually did this whole video
which i thought was absolutely fantastic when i when i watched it the other day
uh including like the the sort of
uh the black backdrop there the the pedestals here this this is really cool
so in this part right here i'm gonna walk from sort of an early model m to a newer
one i hope i have this muted right now yup i got it muted right now
um and we this was really janky the way that we had to do it because we don't
have the proper equipment for it but i thought it was really creative and just
really well done in a cool way so uh yeah i don't know it it kind of felt
like a fitting last project actually because visually
it's one of the coolest videos i think that we've ever done so
it was all james's idea he said do we really have to do this and
he goes yeah let me see if i can just find one of the
spots where we have one of the uh the movement bits
it's okay here we go there we go this is the part that i
wanted that i wanted to show you guys that interlacing though isn't that beautiful
yes so i put down the keyboard
and with a little bit of post work do you want to tell them how this was shot
because it's yeah horrendous uh what are those things dolly it's not a dolly it's
a handy mover yeah it's like a handy mover so we had uh a tripod with a red
and a prompter and like a little audio module that like we had um a boom
plugged into and like we sandbagged the tripod onto this handy mover
and we had we basically like the way the handy
mover works you need to move in one direction or else it like gets all weird
so i don't know i had it like this i had one hand on the handy mover one hand on
the handle of the red and i just pulled it back and we had ed on the left side
of me with um just like a soft box
on wheels and he was pulling it back and then we
had dennis booming and he was just walking back and then we had james as
well like kind of beside me with a bounce and he was walking back with us
and Linus had to do this while reading off a prompter and like putting
a borrowed keyboard on back on a pattern so carefully
yeah not my keyboard like 200 300
keyboard on ebay because they're very rare um
a lot of fun though okay the last question is from me oh okay
are you going to ask me for a reference huh
i'm just i'm idly curious i have not
considered looking for another job yet
so haven't gone to that point in my life maybe
all right sounds good well i think did we do the handshake thing
oh really
all right and on that note thank you very much for all your time here and uh
have a great weekend of liberte i'm gonna have
yeah or a month wi-fi yeah have a great life
all right see you max bye i'm gonna cross the train again
on that happy note i returned hey
how's it going yeah speaking of people who don't work here anymore wow
yeah actually no one was on the show with you this week that works here
yeah how interesting you know what
i'm gonna call that uh a solo ancho and
i'm gonna give myself an extra gold star for doing a great job of the WAN Show
all by myself that's not how that works not how that works no one at all
uh all right so we've got other tech news i think but
honestly we actually don't have a ton of time um we're in we're in negative time
yeah should we start to just like burn through stuff pretty quick here bye sure
my i'm just putting my coffee oh you're just putting your coffee away oh okay
well bye nick bye nick you're not leaving permanently are you forever oh
yeah yeah well i i might as well say he might be he's going
yeah sure whatever have fun with no internet buddy guys yeah
enjoy that i think they have wi-fi yeah i'm pretty sure no no wi-fi
no no it's just it's just in general just like yeah no no she i understood what she
meant they just don't have uh like an internet line into her grandparents
house i think that's what she's trying to say
yeah yeah all right nice okay
so Windows 10 redstone 5 gets telephony
apis telephony telephony yeah thank you uh hinting at a surface phone
apparently microsoft might not have learned their lesson um but the API's
cover support for a range of typical phone features including dialing numbers
and contacts blocking withheld numbers support for bluetooth headsets speakerphone mode etc and there looks to
be some kind of video calling support suggesting support for 3g or lte video
calling i would love to see like this is
something i haven't been able to figure out for the longest time um
this doesn't necessarily mean they're going to do a phone again it could just mean they're going to add phone
functionality to surface devices which is hopefully what it is like the four
people that would care about the other option yeah like i don't like
disappointment nothing personally yeah yeah their amount of disappointment is
not worth it um other good microsoft news they rolled
out the xbox april update which gives you free sync over
HDMI that's actually super cool support for 1440p which paired with that
freesync support uh some freesync is on all and 1440p is on the one x and the
one s means that you could be looking at a significantly better gaming experience
if you're like living in a dorm and you game on your monitor and you've got like
a cheap korean monitor off of ebay or whatever because there are ones with
freesync we actually did check one out recently that was a fantastic value
um it's got support for auto low latency mode which will tell your television
that you're playing a game so it can switch the display mode i didn't know that yeah that's pretty cool uh updated
mixing mixer streaming service to include the ability to share control of
a game with a user on mixer.com that's actually pretty sick
unfortunately uh with all of this there is no
uh there's still no end game for sea of thieves so
do you want to do this one not really sure
i was supposed to buy sc2 mitch on the forum
go ahead what does that even mean uh i'm posting this in the twitch chat but
apparently finland is uh
i'm tripping over myself what is literally what does this mean okay uh
finland classifies esports as a traditional sport apparently there's a
quote that says esports is now being treated as a traditional sport in an
administrative sense okay though we don't want to outweigh the importance of
traditional sports i still i don't know what in an administrative sense fully so
there's some good stuff here basically if uh if an esports e-athlete wants to
come into the country to compete in an event for example
obtaining visas will be easy yeah so there's some good stuff it'll help teams
obtain government funding if they're based in the country and tax benefits for athletes as well
e-athletes you know okay so that's cool i'm never
gonna do it i'm sorry but i'm never gonna call them athletes i'm okay with
this they're e-athletes okay it takes an extremely high degree of skill and
precision and all this kind of stuff but it's just a different form but it's not
athleticism it's a different form um
and there can be benefits to that extreme control from being like an
athletic person and different being in good athletic cardiovascular shape
yeah they're just not the same thing yeah um
whoa if you were wondering if the mining
craze has reached the plateau and is coming down
taiwanese graphics card makers to see shipments plunge 40
in april so this includes Gigabyte MSI
and tool um many clients have suspended taking
shipments in response to the drastic slowdown in demand for cryptocurrency
mining machines many mining farm operators are apparently awaiting the
rollout of ethereum mining machines by china's bit main in the third quarter of
2018.
there's a rumor that apple's working on an 8k times 2 vr headset
um an 8k display for each eye that would be fantastic
i don't know how like big this thing would be uh the box would be powered by
a custom apple processor that's more powerful than anything currently available and it would act as the brain
for the headset uh in its current state the box resembles a pc tower but it won't be an
actual mac computer there's a few things that i'm really
surprised aren't in the dock and i don't have
notes on it obviously but to like stepping stone you guys on to looking
into yourself there's apparently a huge lawsuit going on right now over RAM
pricing that we just got a bunch of news about uh there's uh eric lundgren
is possibly going to prison for repairing or for uh
burning freeware onto disks that is in
here and then oh it is okay so that was posted by ken blue24 on the forum that
actually is really important to cover um let's go ahead and
so an e-waste activist gets 15 months in prison for selling Windows restore disks
yeah so these were downloaded from i don't know if you guys are gonna
remember this to be completely honest but back in the day uh you would get
restore disks with your laptop or your pc uh your desktop sorry and now you can
download them and burn them yourself or put them onto flash drives or whatever
and he would charge as far as i know he would charge 20. 25 cents he was
charging for which is essentially the essentially disc yes like the physical
medium that he put it on to yeah there are a few additional problems that not a
lot of people are putting light on one of them is that apparently they were labeled
as like microsoft Windows which causes a big problem yeah that's a
big intellectual property problem but that was not the focus
of the court case right the focus of the court case was apparently selling the
software um when clearly the software is
available for download and cannot be
activated without a license and the license key is what actually matters
here and he wasn't selling license keys he was selling he was
selling helping people who had lost their recovery disk
get Windows back on their computer with their existing license in a really nice
way because he was helping you do it yourself and he was doing it for 25
cents the cost of the disc that doesn't it doesn't properly in my opinion
include uh labor that that's like taking
some business away from him directly and microsoft apparently as far as i know
went after him for the perceived value so i think it was
like twenty dollars a disc yeah so saying that it was worth like almost
three quarters of a million dollars um and apparently their problem with all
of this is that it is causing lost sales but that is a very frankly uh
argument it's completely incorrect because those people already have a
license for Windows so we shouldn't be trying to sell them another license for
Windows because they already have one and that is what is known in the
industry as a dick move
so there's a couple of problems here um he did break the law he did
sell copyrighted material which is wrong and
bad and illegal
but this kind of behavior the intent because
i'm a firm believer that we should look
not at the action so much as at the
intent like if someone's like
you're a dick that's obviously really different from
you know what you're a really nice guy
yeah so there's what you say but there's what you mean and in this case yes what he
did was technically incorrect and technically illegal but it's the kind of
thing where i think a letter probably would have done the trick and not and
like yeah it comes down to the the basics of does the punishment match the
crime and this is that's right extremely not the case if someone was
driving down the road at 200 kilometers an hour
and they blow through a school zone they would be unlikely to get 15 months
in prison in spite of the fact that
okay maybe no one actually gets hurt but they could have really dangerous easily
like you know hit a rock at that kind of a
speed in a residential area and this thing this kind of stuff happens they
could have easily like hit a rock and flown into someone's house or like run
over a bunch of school children or whatever they can fire it out and nailed someone
they will not get 15 months in prison
and here we're talking about in
with as far as we can tell a good intention
someone printing these disks and making them available to people who are not
tech savvy enough to download them on their own and we're putting this person in prison
for 15 months this really doesn't make a ton of sense to me someone in twitch
chat was like right to travel and honestly i don't blame the courts
for this i don't blame the law i don't blame the court system i blame microsoft
microsoft should not be going after this guy they should have
sent a strongly worded letter told them not to do it and
ideally created a system where people can download these recovery disks far
more easily because as much as the disk does usually say on it don't lose this
or you won't be able to reinstall that's bs2 there's absolutely no reason why
physical media it is 2018
there's no reason why physical media should prevent you in any way from
installing and using your software that you have a valid license for
so i guess that's all i have to say about that there's there's yeah there's there's legitimate issues with the use
of logos names or whatever but they took it too far
they should have said don't use our logos that's like someone uploading a meme on
the internet with my face in it and us immediately going straight to a lawsuit
rather than being like you know yo you've crossed the line
there you actually can't use that we usually like memes yeah we love it so
go ahead please do it i saw one with you in it recently where
it was like the four panel one and you like run into an apple store with money
in your hand have you seen it i posted that on twitter the lost meme yeah yeah it's fantastic
it's so funny nobody sent that to me you know how i found it
for the first time ever read it i was
bored oh i don't remember the last time i was
bored you got so much on your plate my kids were doing something and i like
needed to supervise them and i needed to kind of be there but like so i
went to our slash all and i made it four pages in and i was
like holy crap that's me because it wasn't in like pcmr or like
any of the places that i would normally pay attention to where was it uh i'm
gonna have to check uh Linus mac lost meme reddit that
should not bring it up uh
no um
wow yeah i don't think i'm even like mentioned in it though
yeah i can't even like i can't even find it now
uh i'll have to go on our twitter and like find our post of the of the reddit
page but like oh yeah cause i didn't send it to you
because i noticed that you had posted it i
remember that now or was it your personal one uh no no it
was on the uh the company one
i figured it was on topic enough yeah i think so
there we go no found this on okay crap i didn't i
didn't i didn't post the link to reddit dang it
that was funny imac loss right at imac loss
nope yep can't find it i'm sure someone has posted it in twitch chat by now yeah
no twitch chat is full of people complaining about reddit search
yeah well there you go um
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tips controversy is that it nope oh wow that's
that's interesting uh the show is brought to you by private internet
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i haven't even found i've never i haven't even seen this there is so much
discussion of this i think even more than the tampon thing i love how amazon
how stupid that is
um
yeah the top comment this is interesting it's not like they were asking apple to
fix it under warranty he said he was willing and expecting to pay for it here's the biggest issue he's voided the
warranty in a spectacular way it doesn't matter even if he pays double the cost
of the mac just to fix it which would be super dumb because you could never pay
more than the cost of the mac to fix it
apple then has to give a warranty on the repair then that puts them in all sorts of poo
if something else is broken due to his tampering no because nothing else could
be broken because the entire thing would be brand new
that's not how this stuff works it's just you know what well we'll make a
video later bye