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hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to the WAN Show we've got a

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fantastic show planned out for you today at least i think we do i wouldn't know i

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had nothing to do with the planning hooray hooray but in all seriousness

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we've got a couple of guests one of whom

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is another creator that we have actually never collaborated with before so that's

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pretty exciting and the second is someone whose final day

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here at Linus media group is today we are doing uh oh yeah i guess you

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probably didn't know about that we are doing a fight i didn't know they

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were coming off yeah yeah we are doing a farewell farewell stream for for one of

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over a year now actually wow it's amazing how time flies so we've got a

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bunch of great topics lined up for you um including Intel's 10 nanometer delay

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Intel is i mean is this like the first time

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in how many decades that Intel hasn't been

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at the bleeding edge of process node tech it's gonna be really interesting

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because they might be in trouble um apple apple to move touch digitizer and

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jim keller joins Intel this is big news if you don't know who jim keller is

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basically he's like uh CPU design

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sort of offensive did it help at all no

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okay what else we got uh Windows 10 redstone

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phone um which i thought i thought they learned their lesson already on that one

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another shot let's give another shot at rolling this intro

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fine i'm getting a bunch of messages hopefully that's

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not a problem uh oh oh we forgot to uh we forgot to do

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i got to do a thing real quick here like that thing and also this thing

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twitter like totally finds this stuff so does youtube so does facebook and they

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just super bury it yeah every week we'll

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and what is going on right now

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what what how do i not have what what are you

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in here yeah wow it's getting hotter i think you can

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see like my face is glistening that i don't think that's like a lighting

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problem no me too i'm sweating it's only april and it's already getting to be

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like summer weather here all right yeah so why don't we jump into our first

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topic here and why don't we just invite our guests so

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let me see if i can figure out how to do it

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and click on the thing click on the thing other thing

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hey look it's us there we go

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hi so welcome to the show jason how are you doing uh we are fantastic a

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little frazzled and a little warm yeah uh but otherwise fantastic how are you

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it's friday uh tgif i know right as if it meant

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anything

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wait you're telling me i don't get the weekend off yeah i know well you're you're not

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exactly new to the youtube game so this shouldn't be much of a surprise to you

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so uh yeah we've all we've already got we've

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already got people being like holy crap never knew tech deals name in

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our twitch chat yeah

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jason who there's actually a lot of that going on right now so why don't you do a

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quick intro to yourself or anyone who hasn't stumbled across your videos over

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on the tube uh my name is jason i run a youtube

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channel called tech deals and i do basically tech deals i do tech reviews

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and the best deals and builds and all sorts of fun stuff uh just just picture

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wow i mean with all the with all the shade

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that this guy was throwing even before the show started i was worried we were

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gonna have to bring in some more lights or you wouldn't even be able to see our

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glistening foreheads here and he's keeping it up so uh

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you can find his channel uh over here

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five things to consider when buying an SSD is the

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what is it what do they call that a channel trailer now whatever they call

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that the featured video on your home so giveaway and review 80 plus power supply

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because people like that stuff because people want to know how like the new

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games play uh far cry 5 and stuff like that huh

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wow we used to do similar content to that and you're like why does that need

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to happen back back in the house back in the

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garage i'm busy i'm busy rg being things

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he knows rgbing things today if your brain was

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just a little bit younger it would have been malleable enough to remember that

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now you what what is this like attack Linus show

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the lancho well you answered the question

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you answered the question of where he could be found with a youtube link

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instead of mentioning the new thing ah yes so i totally

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screwed up and it's it's totally my fault that especially luke is going

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after me you have a here i'll fix it mind you uh oh okay you just don't have

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a thing all right all right you can find him there can i okay so this is this is

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pretty cool so the thing that we're announcing here is that jason is going

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on flow plans

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nice tech tips bit with ultra and right there tech deals is now live on the

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platform um and obviously we've had a look at some

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of the stuff you've got up on youtube but what do you have available now for

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people to check out over on Floatplane we have got some early access videos

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over there the may uh 2018 unboxing is

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already there with uh more than a dozen cool things unboxed there's some

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additional testing of vram requirements there's a couple of behind the scenes

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videos that are exclusive to float playing just some uh uh interesting

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videos that you just won't see on youtube so cool stuff holy crap you've

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been really busy he's he's been on top of it what the is all this

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you've only had access to the account for like two days dude

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that uh the galax uh that galax is the first time i've ever tested a galaxy

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well that's fantastic okay cool

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all right so why don't we actually do something that we rarely do on WAN Show

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here and actually get into a tech topic

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oh wow um so the this was originally posted on the Linus tech tips forum by

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samsee and the original article here is from tom's hardware

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uh but basically this this is absolutely

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huge Intel's 10 nanometer technology is and

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the headline says this is uh pretty pretty savage here actually is

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broken and apparently delayed until 2019.

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now if the rest of the industry were going through the same challenges this

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using seven nanometer technology from their partner global boundaries yeah

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and this isn't to to add a little bit too this isn't rumor mill stuff i often

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complain like oh i don't like rumors this was from a i believe a

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shareholders call yeah so during their quarterly earnings call and this was

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an extremely strong quarter one earnings

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they were i mean they they had great earnings but their their desktop

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business is flat it's their services business that's up and it looks like

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like believe it or not holy crap

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i mean this is kind of does this feel really similar to what started happening

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with gpus right around the 28 nanometer time yeah

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even been on the same process known as Intel and i don't mean where they like

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Intel when it went ahead and then AMD caught up and then until when like i

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using the same manufacturing process as Intel so just for for those of you who

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aren't familiar with what this means there are a number of things that make a

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inherently better so uh adding more cash for

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increasing the clock speed uh all of these things help so architectural

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these help performance and can potentially help efficiency but

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the kind of freebie that for decades now

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the size of the transistors with a couple of notable exceptions this

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inherently makes the chips more power efficient and smaller allowing you to

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increase the complexity i mean that's why a CPU today can have in excess of

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like 20 megabytes of cash whereas back when i was getting into this stuff i

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mean having 256 kilobytes or 512

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power consumption and chip complexity that Intel has just

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reducing defects to produce 10 nanometer cost effectively so that's another thing

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million dollars to produce or whatever the case may be um

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well we may actually see AMD pull ahead in performance then for a change because

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ryzen's awesome but it's still per core not quite as fast but what if that

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and i mean whatever the hype train might have said you know our thoughts on it

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were okay i mean yeah it's it's more better for

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no send it back make another reward to the improvements

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um but there was nothing revolutionary about it what we haven't

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seen from AMD yet is something that they have clearly indicated is on their

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roadmap and that is zen two so that's an actual architectural improvement to zen

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that's more than just okay we shrunk the node node a little bit like like a

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so can you imagine what the world looks like where AMD outperforms Intel

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again and we've been saying this for a long time it's going to be weird consumer

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much because people have been ingrained to just buy Intel stuff for so long now

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um with the AMD fanboys out there i don't think it's going to affect

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consumer choice very much at all that's what that's where i was kind of going with that is i i think people are still

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going to buy it i think yeah i think AMD is going to

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raise prices and the people who are going to buy AMD are going to buy AMD because it's a good

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no no crap no it was from 266 to 330 whatever whatever it was it was very

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confusing because AMD back in those days would actually have multiple models of

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different multipliers and because of board compatibility with

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remember via chipsets enforce

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last from the past i know right so so anyway i i had a 2500 plus and i had it

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overclocked to a 3200 plus which AMD very optimistically would compare to

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real processor cores so you know what my 3200 plus is like as good as your 3.2

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gigahertz p4 um but in actuality hyper

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and this was an m0 stepping this was a cool chip this is a 2.4

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gigahertz chip that was capable of like four plus do people hunt that stuff as

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much as they used to a p force a p4 800

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c d a p f p 4 c 800 e deluxe

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was out of like a salvage system someone had given to me when i built them a new

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one i was like you had no idea what you had here i mean

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dual cores were obviously still better but i was like oh hyper threading worked

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this is cool and overclocked man that thing was fast

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anyway what am i talking about again right a p4c800d deluxe those still go

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for a hundred bucks on ebay i look really i looked at it last week

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because we're planning like a blast from the past machine

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and we want to overclock the snot out of it and if you want to overclock the snot

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out of a p4c a pentium 4c um then you really do need

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a p4c800d deluxe and um so we are probably going to pay a hundred dollars

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for a 10 year old motherboard in the near future that's a crime

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a hundred dollars all i remember is that

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the pentium threes were good and then the athlons came out

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and i skipped most of the pentium fours because frankly

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yes you could get a pentium four that was faster but it costs so much more

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money than an athlon that's true

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the board was more expensive the chip was more expensive to get the most out

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of it you needed dual channel memory which back then was

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like can you remember that rambus RAM crazy expensive yeah rambus RAM i

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actually there's a gap in my pc enthusiasm in between the pentium one

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so i never had to deal with round this memory

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you've never had rambus i have never had rambus in fact i don't think i've ever

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even talked about it so feel free to tell our audience for maybe the first

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time they've ever heard about it because they're uh if you if you listen to our

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our our haters they're all kids um so they yeah go ahead and educate them i

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wouldn't want to put a a a a hat on or anything but basically Intel wanted a

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piece of the RAM market oh did i say that out loud so they wanted to get

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everybody off of ddr RAM and they wanted to go to rambus because they had

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royalties and patents on it it was supposed to be faster and it was but it

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had higher latency and other issues or vice versa but essentially they thought

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that their market clout would force everybody and you could buy an athlon

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instead which used the cheaper ddr RAM and cheaper boards and yes pentium was

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10 20 faster but you paid

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double triple the money for 10 or 20 speed it was silly

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that would be a tremendous

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video standards that Intel has pushed over the

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years that died we've got rambus we've got btx

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we've got uh what what what else just like off the top of our heads could we

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uh uh oh oh oh do you guys remember vive

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v i i v no i don't think so oh man oh it was

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epic we had this uh we had this like like demo kit at the ncix headquarters

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that i don't think literally was ever

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taken out of its box i've seen this logo yeah yeah here hold on i'm gonna

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uh here here's a Intel press room technology brief i'm just gonna show you

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guys with my screen on my screen here here it is yeah baby Intel vive

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maximize your home entertainment experience

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this is Intel's brand for in-home entertainment pcs designed to transform

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how consumers manage share and enjoy abroad and growing aspartame of movies

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programs music games and photos

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oh man look at this look how like delightfully two thousands all of this

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looks like i recognize all the logos but i don't remember it at all it's probably because

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it's home theater and i didn't care well the other thing too is that it

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didn't matter at all because anything was vive

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it was just kind of a meaningless label that you could put on an htpc with

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like it was like the multipedia multimedia pc standard back in the 90s

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vr ready yeah like look at oh

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like look at these performance benchmarks they're like yes a vive

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technology oh by the way it's a pen tmd processor

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it's and then they compare it to just a p4 not vive and they're like oh

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yes vive is much more better but it actually is just like

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better cpus like here's a core 2 duo versus a p4571

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what is the point exactly that you're trying to make

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would you consider Intel's iatanium to be them trying to control 64-bit

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um you know what i don't know enough about the itanic to really comment on it

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um like in an in-depth technical way

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because it was server tech at a time when we did

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not dabble in server tech at all so what's your take because i feel like

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you wouldn't ask me if you didn't have an opinion well they were trying to move the

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industry off of their traditional x86

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which of course AMD had a license to and the idea was that they would have

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something that they could have exclusive and i'll bet an awful lot of people

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today don't realize that the 64-bit technology we use today isn't Intel's

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it's AMD's um that i itanium was Intel's attempt to

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get everybody off a legacy platform and sort of take contr they've tried

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multiple times over the years to try to retake control of the

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of the of the CPU business from AMD

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yeah i know

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it will be considering all the stuff that happened 15 years ago with pentium

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4 and and in athlon if

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ryzen 3 ends up being 7 nanometers before Intel gets there

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are you adding this to like no no but i

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will we like definitely i thought you were like i'm doing this during the show

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no no i don't think you'll forget that would be so that would be so much fun um

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so on the subject of all of this lighting a fire under Intel's butt i

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think we've got time for one more topic with you and i think this is probably

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the best one uh jim keller

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is joining Intel so this was posted by numlock21 on the forum and the original

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article is wccf tech so whatever you might think about them you

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can keep it to yourself because this is like a confirmed thing so just chill out

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um but basically i mean this is not even this is not even

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this doesn't do justice to to the guy's resume but it says AMD's zen and athlon

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64 CPU architect so pretty much

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the only times that AMD has built anything competitive with Intel in the

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last 10 years um

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the architect behind them jim keller has

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joined Intel so this is after stints at

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apple where i believe was he working on CPU or

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GPU at apple do you do you remember

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no no i can't i can't remember either and then he also did uh did some time at

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tesla uh so he left AMD for tesla most

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recently and then he was at uh apple in between AMD and uh AMD again i think

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can't remember exactly but basically the guy is a legend in the CPU design

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business and so now he

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and raja kaduri who was the head of Radeon technologies

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group under AMD are now both at Intel so if there was

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any doubt that Intel is making a big push here

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you can put that to rest it's gonna be interesting well he's he's

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he's he was essentially uh played a key role responsible for the good cpus that

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AMD frankly has ever designed because i don't know if you ever played around

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with the old k6 and k5 chips back way back in the 90s but

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they really struggled when they lost the ability to copy Intel's designs i mean

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all the way through the 386 and whatnot they could copy Intel but then they had

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to come up there k5 was late k5 was slow competing with the pentium right and

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then k6 was okay but then the k7 was

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athlon and so basically he did athlon xp

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all the way through until they switched over to phenom and fx which he wasn't

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involved with and then he did ryzen so basically he's done every good CPU AMD's

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ever done i mean that's one way of putting it yep

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um

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man so he's joining as a senior vice president leading the company's silicon

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engineering which encompasses system on chip development and integration

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uh so he did uh oh yeah okay this is all in my notes did a multi-year stinted

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apple between contributions to k8 and coming back to work on zen at apple he

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led the design team to build the company's class-leading

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mobile processors so in 2015 he left AMD to join tesla

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where he's been leading the company's ai chip design teams to date

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so if tesla produces some kind of chip design that is like

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freaking awesome in the next year to four

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uh he will basically definitely have had

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a hand in that i mean what what does this mean for AMD

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like they're gonna have a couple of good years here because one of the things that uh mr keller did

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i don't know is he a doctor i don't know i've never never seen it

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that way so i'm not sure i mean it seems like there's a pretty good chance anyway yeah one of the things that jim keller

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did at AMD was he set out a road map for zen like this is zen one and then here's

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like future generations of zen like here's here's

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it's all plotted out for you but after that

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what do they do where do you find another rock star like

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that i don't know find good people and let

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them do their thing i mean it's become very challenging

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though i mean in the early days chip design was simple enough i mean

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obviously it was already very complicated but it was simple enough

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that there could be many people qualified to work on it

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as time goes on for you to find someone with the

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knowledge to work on current technology and the experience of everything that's

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come before it something that does have a value and has a value more and more so

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as the technology progresses to find those people is going to become more and

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more difficult and when you're AMD you are competing with Intel to attract

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those people and we can see who is winning that battle right now

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yeah and it's not like he's retiring right away that's one thing i was going

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to look into is like is the old guard gonna be retiring but he's not quite at

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that age yet so no we can keep leaning on these guys

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that's gonna be interesting

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all right well we gotta jump into our sponsors um jason thank you so much for coming on

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stalling for time while i got my uh Floatplane screen up here yep there we

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early access or exclusive stuff or what's the deal over there um early

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plane and then on youtube but there'll be some behind the scenes a couple of uh

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fun uh exclusive videos just for Floatplane supporters cool fantastic all

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right well thank you so much for joining us and uh we'll talk we'll talk really

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soon because i'm sure you're gonna want some tech support because Floatplane is

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pretty alpha dude hey hey you were taking shots at me all

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right see ya that's fair that's for bye

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really yeah already wow that was quick yeah do you i haven't seen this

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dashboard why haven't you shown me this dashboard

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you have access to it what yeah i asked

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you for this multiple times

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00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:14,480
day or kind of whenever you want kind of

463
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,279
whenever you want but uh make sure you don't forget to use the code because 10

464
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off is awesome it's basically like getting free shipping yeah um all right

465
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also brought to you by private internet access private internet and

466
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467
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468
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469
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470
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471
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well they they called it a specific browser okay so it could be other like maybe

472
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another browser okay that's fair you can connect up to five devices at the same

473
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time and their apps include dns leak protection and ipv6 leak protection an

474
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internet kill switch will block all traffic if the vpn becomes disconnected

475
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unexpectedly and you can check it out today at the link in the video

476
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:17,040
description or the one that i'm pointing at right there best of all

477
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:17,040
it is not owned by mcafee

478
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:22,159
that took me a sec

479
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:30,159
you know you know they they they called us

480
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:33,520
after that video yeah and they were like hey

481
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:37,440
they didn't call us before it though well yeah

482
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:41,200
i mean the wife's making a face

483
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,839
uh oh right yeah i guess we should we should do that now okay one right can i

484
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:49,679
do one thing right before then ltx 2018 oh what

485
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:54,159
uh i have a thing that i need to do in the thing right there you have a thing

486
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:57,520
oh yeah sure uh go ahead uh apply for the developer position at Floatplane

487
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,800
media if you're watching this on youtube it will be in the description and

488
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:05,440
otherwise you're posting it to a chat i'm posting it all right cool um how

489
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:09,280
many people are on the team now it depends where you draw the line okay

490
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:16,400
yeah like five but it depends where you draw the line but lines on me than five if i'm

491
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,720
included yeah but are you included yeah

492
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,760
it's like five plus yeah yeah okay yeah so it's going really well it's been it's

493
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,640
awesome luke's a great boss

494
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:34,400
not now i'm so confused okay there we go um ltx 2018. you saw that thanks yes ltx

495
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,359
2018. it's a meet up and interactive tech event it's happening july 14th at

496
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,839
the richmond olympic oval here in richmond bc canada the current booths

497
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:46,079
include a blind cable management competition brought to you by cablemod a

498
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:51,760
d-lidding workshop so you can bring your CPU and we will show you how to delete

499
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,280
it safely case toss 2.0

500
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:57,520
safer this time multi-headed vr a lan really we're going

501
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:02,240
to have a lan that's sick okay 12k ultra wide gaming

502
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,640
we haven't actually made that video yet but we will be working on that very hard hopefully to have it done in time and

503
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:14,079
with more on the way there's going to be food music cool systems to look at um

504
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,320
games more swag special guests exclusive

505
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:21,359
live unboxings and more so tickets start at 35 bucks canadian and you can check

506
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:25,280
them out at ltxexpo.com

507
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:26,960
so look oh crap oh crap oh crap where's

508
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:31,760
the where where where is it where's the oh there it is okay yep

509
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,160
everything's fine so it's your last day yes

510
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:42,640
bye so i actually haven't asked you this yet

511
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:46,079
but like where are you going croatia

512
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,000
okay not what i meant but um

513
00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:52,320
oh really oh okay what are you doing in croatia i'm gonna go live um

514
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,640
with my boyfriend's grandparents for a bit

515
00:36:54,240 --> 00:37:01,760
really yeah breathe in some fresh air i guess you're gonna live in croatia they

516
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:07,520
have no wi-fi like in croatia or at his grandparents

517
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,200
house in croatia no yes they do they

518
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,680
don't what yeah

519
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:18,640
okay so tech tips video like getting getting max wi-fi and croatian

520
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:24,000
i don't think they have the capacity to do that

521
00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:26,960
no i'll send you a photo of their like

522
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:30,640
uh breaker like it's it's insane oh oh but just like in their house in their

523
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:34,560
house they i think they have wi-fi at like one of the cafes in the city that

524
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:39,760
they live in really yes so you're going from complete

525
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:45,920
immersion in technology to like your phone is basically a fancy

526
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:50,720
apple branded decoration yes

527
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:54,320
wow how long are you staying there a few weeks to a month

528
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,280
a month yeah so

529
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:03,920
yeah wow that's exciting have you given much thought to your plan beyond that

530
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,800
i feel like i'm interviewing you i might as well ask you know what i might as

531
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:11,280
well ask some of the some of the questions that i'm sure people have on their minds guys go ahead and post in

532
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:14,960
the twitch chat if you have any questions for max i will do my best but

533
00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:19,760
we're not going to have a ton of time because it's 5 59 and so officially in

534
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:22,800
one minute she super doesn't work here anymore and definitely doesn't have to

535
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,480
listen to me am i trespassing at that point um yeah do we have to like do we

536
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:31,599
have to escort her away no i've already taken all my keys but

537
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:33,040
she's a visitor but you're a visitor wow

538
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:36,880
okay so uh

539
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:41,040
favorite video project you worked on while you were here

540
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:45,599
oh i don't

541
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:51,920
the one at your house i forget which one but you dressed up as a grandmother and

542
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,520
tech then versus now yeah that was that was pretty fun that was

543
00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:01,440
pretty fun so we were talking about sort of retro tech and uh

544
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:06,800
oh sorry so we were talking about sort of differences between technology when i

545
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:11,440
was a kid and when my kids were a kid and i guess technology from when i was a

546
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,200
kid was funny to you i suppose also it involved a lot of costumes that

547
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,800
was a lot of fun a lot of cross-dressing worst project

548
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,760
worst project i already think i know what you're going to say

549
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,440
and it was fun but it was also pretty horrible

550
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:32,640
go ahead you can say i mean i just i think i know what it was

551
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,960
i want to see if i get it right well now i'm trying to think of what

552
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:41,079
you're thinking no no no don't try to think of what i'm thinking try to think of the worst project you worked on the

553
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,079
whole time you're here

554
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,880
uh i can't

555
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,640
i don't know ces was pretty tough it wasn't the worst project but it was like

556
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:57,680
really really tough san francisco as well the AMD factory tour that's what i

557
00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:02,880
was to say okay yeah yeah allen that was pretty rough yep like we flew

558
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:06,560
out very early morning didn't we we were up at like three and

559
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:11,040
then we worked because yeah it was like a 6 a.m or like a 7 a.m flight or

560
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:15,520
something stupid like that and then we we landed

561
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:21,520
and worked all day and then we had another like 6 or 7 a.m

562
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:25,119
flight home yeah i remember getting back i remember getting a hotel at like 9 30

563
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:32,000
or like 10 o'clock or something like that and you were like set your alarm we're up at 2 a.m and i was like oh okay

564
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,160
and then we came back to the office i only lasted until like we got there

565
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:39,680
got here at like 10 a.m yeah i think and then you stayed in for like another

566
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,280
three or four hours yeah and like i didn't even ask you to

567
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:48,720
i thought i had to oh really yeah well like okay i stayed

568
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,359
because i didn't have a choice like i had

569
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:55,920
that whole trip was just kind of a cluster yeah because AMD sprung it on us

570
00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:00,000
at the last minute and they were just like well we're gonna have like the most

571
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:04,720
exclusive thing ever it's a super computer made of vegas and we were like

572
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:09,280
yo we have our ltx this that was a year ago yeah yeah

573
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:15,040
holy crap so we were like yeah we have our ltx expo like like now we need to

574
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,760
you know we would need to be there and back in one day and they're like yeah we

575
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:23,760
can make it happen like okay people are asking if you got fired

576
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:27,920
because you dropped the test bench you know what i think it took Linus about a

577
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:32,079
year to think it over and then he brought me into his office and said you

578
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,880
know what i can't get over it

579
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:38,560
no no we're we're actually pretty chill and

580
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:42,079
if i had to be honest i don't think we've ever addressed this publicly but

581
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:46,160
if i had to be honest about it that was at least 40 percent my fault

582
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:54,319
i'll take it i'll take it i was the one who propped it up like

583
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:57,040
that that was me not max you know what i said

584
00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:01,599
that doesn't look like the best idea she did say that

585
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,720
however i did say max can you hold this while i answered the

586
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:09,040
door and he trusted me during my probation

587
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:15,520
so oh this is great it is 602 i'm no longer

588
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:19,280
your boss you can answer honestly okay uh hold on let's learn it okay is Linus

589
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:23,760
a good boss i don't know someone else it's going like super it's going super fast yep

590
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:27,680
you don't you don't have to lie you don't have to lie anymore there's no

591
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:30,640
pressure i gotta stay for this yeah no like he yeah

592
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:34,720
was a great boss i know it's over

593
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,200
all right what else we got here um

594
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,960
pregnant uh remember everyone's everyone's

595
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,520
what people are asking do they think i'm pregnant do you think i'm leaving

596
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,880
because i'm pregnant no i don't think this is good i don't

597
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,040
think you have to answer that question i'm

598
00:42:56,839 --> 00:43:04,400
not um someone has a question oh why isn't your

599
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:08,400
hair blue i saw i've been wondering that i saw a 15 year old girl at walmart and

600
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,839
um she had literally the exact same hair as me um

601
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,280
it was really she was like following me around like there was no way she needed

602
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,000
to be in the cereal aisle the same time i was in the cereal aisle

603
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,240
and so she just like i i don't know i felt really stressed out and i had a hair

604
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:26,560
appointment the next day anyways and i was like so we got to get rid of this and she's like let's just do it now

605
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:30,380
and i just blacked out woke up blonde hair

606
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:36,319
really it was time did you feel old

607
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,240
oh yeah i get no it's just that i didn't

608
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:47,440
want to identify as somebody that has the same hair as like a 15 year old

609
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:47,440
so you felt so it's not that i felt

610
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,359
oh dang yeah so it was time

611
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,000
oh wow i wish i'd asked before that's fantastic

612
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:04,960
twitch chat thinks all girls are pregnant that's that's apparently why

613
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:09,200
that came up i don't i don't know i don't spend enough time on twitch to uh

614
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:13,760
um let's see do you want to take one more question

615
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:21,880
no that's not me yeah okay sure let's do one more 75 is the answer um

616
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:21,880
what's the best part of the job here

617
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,440
i don't work here anymore i can't answer that

618
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:32,240
i don't know every thing it's pretty chill i don't know i

619
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:37,599
get to like hang out with

620
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,200
cool people and nice cameras

621
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:42,720
it's definitely not a desk job which is what i had last time and right so that

622
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:45,359
was really cool being able to like do different things every day and like walk

623
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:49,599
around and be creative right yeah i think some of

624
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:54,800
your finest work was actually one of the last things you shot here um this video

625
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,839
right here is not up on uh it's not up on youtube yet but it's

626
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,680
on Floatplane so i'm just gonna this one yeah here we go um and i

627
00:45:02,319 --> 00:45:08,480
believe you did all the lighting for this didn't you so

628
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:13,760
at in the in the early in the early parts of her tenure max relied on

629
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:18,960
brandon a lot for help in terms of not operating a camera necessarily but in

630
00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:22,480
terms of lighting shots and um and the composition of her shots and

631
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:27,760
all that kind of stuff and she actually did this whole video

632
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:33,359
which i thought was absolutely fantastic when i when i watched it the other day

633
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:36,079
uh including like the the sort of

634
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:38,960
uh the black backdrop there the the pedestals here this this is really cool

635
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:44,480
so in this part right here i'm gonna walk from sort of an early model m to a newer

636
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:50,800
one i hope i have this muted right now yup i got it muted right now

637
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:53,680
um and we this was really janky the way that we had to do it because we don't

638
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:59,680
have the proper equipment for it but i thought it was really creative and just

639
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:02,960
really well done in a cool way so uh yeah i don't know it it kind of felt

640
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,880
like a fitting last project actually because visually

641
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,000
it's one of the coolest videos i think that we've ever done so

642
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,200
it was all james's idea he said do we really have to do this and

643
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,200
he goes yeah let me see if i can just find one of the

644
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:22,079
spots where we have one of the uh the movement bits

645
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,520
it's okay here we go there we go this is the part that i

646
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:31,440
wanted that i wanted to show you guys that interlacing though isn't that beautiful

647
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:35,760
yes so i put down the keyboard

648
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:39,040
and with a little bit of post work do you want to tell them how this was shot

649
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:42,640
because it's yeah horrendous uh what are those things dolly it's not a dolly it's

650
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:48,960
a handy mover yeah it's like a handy mover so we had uh a tripod with a red

651
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:54,160
and a prompter and like a little audio module that like we had um a boom

652
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:58,880
plugged into and like we sandbagged the tripod onto this handy mover

653
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,960
and we had we basically like the way the handy

654
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:07,200
mover works you need to move in one direction or else it like gets all weird

655
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:10,960
so i don't know i had it like this i had one hand on the handy mover one hand on

656
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:16,560
the handle of the red and i just pulled it back and we had ed on the left side

657
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,760
of me with um just like a soft box

658
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:21,680
on wheels and he was pulling it back and then we

659
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,319
had dennis booming and he was just walking back and then we had james as

660
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:29,200
well like kind of beside me with a bounce and he was walking back with us

661
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:33,680
and Linus had to do this while reading off a prompter and like putting

662
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:40,079
a borrowed keyboard on back on a pattern so carefully

663
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:42,079
yeah not my keyboard like 200 300

664
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:45,760
keyboard on ebay because they're very rare um

665
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,839
a lot of fun though okay the last question is from me oh okay

666
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:56,400
are you going to ask me for a reference huh

667
00:47:53,280 --> 00:48:00,160
i'm just i'm idly curious i have not

668
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:02,640
considered looking for another job yet

669
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,560
so haven't gone to that point in my life maybe

670
00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:11,130
all right sounds good well i think did we do the handshake thing

671
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,640
oh really

672
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:20,079
all right and on that note thank you very much for all your time here and uh

673
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:22,960
have a great weekend of liberte i'm gonna have

674
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:27,200
yeah or a month wi-fi yeah have a great life

675
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,079
all right see you max bye i'm gonna cross the train again

676
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,880
on that happy note i returned hey

677
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:43,599
how's it going yeah speaking of people who don't work here anymore wow

678
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:49,599
yeah actually no one was on the show with you this week that works here

679
00:48:46,839 --> 00:48:54,000
yeah how interesting you know what

680
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,920
i'm gonna call that uh a solo ancho and

681
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,440
i'm gonna give myself an extra gold star for doing a great job of the WAN Show

682
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:03,200
all by myself that's not how that works not how that works no one at all

683
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:10,319
uh all right so we've got other tech news i think but

684
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:14,640
honestly we actually don't have a ton of time um we're in we're in negative time

685
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:18,000
yeah should we start to just like burn through stuff pretty quick here bye sure

686
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:23,280
my i'm just putting my coffee oh you're just putting your coffee away oh okay

687
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,440
well bye nick bye nick you're not leaving permanently are you forever oh

688
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:32,640
yeah yeah well i i might as well say he might be he's going

689
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:37,280
yeah sure whatever have fun with no internet buddy guys yeah

690
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:41,520
enjoy that i think they have wi-fi yeah i'm pretty sure no no wi-fi

691
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:46,640
no no it's just it's just in general just like yeah no no she i understood what she

692
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:49,680
meant they just don't have uh like an internet line into her grandparents

693
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,920
house i think that's what she's trying to say

694
00:49:52,720 --> 00:50:00,400
yeah yeah all right nice okay

695
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:03,359
so Windows 10 redstone 5 gets telephony

696
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:08,559
apis telephony telephony yeah thank you uh hinting at a surface phone

697
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:12,720
apparently microsoft might not have learned their lesson um but the API's

698
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:16,079
cover support for a range of typical phone features including dialing numbers

699
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,160
and contacts blocking withheld numbers support for bluetooth headsets speakerphone mode etc and there looks to

700
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:25,119
be some kind of video calling support suggesting support for 3g or lte video

701
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,079
calling i would love to see like this is

702
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,440
something i haven't been able to figure out for the longest time um

703
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:35,680
this doesn't necessarily mean they're going to do a phone again it could just mean they're going to add phone

704
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:38,880
functionality to surface devices which is hopefully what it is like the four

705
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:43,520
people that would care about the other option yeah like i don't like

706
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,559
disappointment nothing personally yeah yeah their amount of disappointment is

707
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:51,520
not worth it um other good microsoft news they rolled

708
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:55,119
out the xbox april update which gives you free sync over

709
00:50:52,839 --> 00:51:00,480
HDMI that's actually super cool support for 1440p which paired with that

710
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:05,119
freesync support uh some freesync is on all and 1440p is on the one x and the

711
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,720
one s means that you could be looking at a significantly better gaming experience

712
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:12,240
if you're like living in a dorm and you game on your monitor and you've got like

713
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,599
a cheap korean monitor off of ebay or whatever because there are ones with

714
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:21,680
freesync we actually did check one out recently that was a fantastic value

715
00:51:19,359 --> 00:51:24,400
um it's got support for auto low latency mode which will tell your television

716
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:30,559
that you're playing a game so it can switch the display mode i didn't know that yeah that's pretty cool uh updated

717
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:34,240
mixing mixer streaming service to include the ability to share control of

718
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:38,079
a game with a user on mixer.com that's actually pretty sick

719
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:41,200
unfortunately uh with all of this there is no

720
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:45,280
uh there's still no end game for sea of thieves so

721
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,800
do you want to do this one not really sure

722
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:51,800
i was supposed to buy sc2 mitch on the forum

723
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:58,079
go ahead what does that even mean uh i'm posting this in the twitch chat but

724
00:51:56,319 --> 00:52:01,920
apparently finland is uh

725
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,599
i'm tripping over myself what is literally what does this mean okay uh

726
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,680
finland classifies esports as a traditional sport apparently there's a

727
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:14,480
quote that says esports is now being treated as a traditional sport in an

728
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:19,200
administrative sense okay though we don't want to outweigh the importance of

729
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:23,200
traditional sports i still i don't know what in an administrative sense fully so

730
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:29,040
there's some good stuff here basically if uh if an esports e-athlete wants to

731
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:32,480
come into the country to compete in an event for example

732
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,599
obtaining visas will be easy yeah so there's some good stuff it'll help teams

733
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:41,280
obtain government funding if they're based in the country and tax benefits for athletes as well

734
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,559
e-athletes you know okay so that's cool i'm never

735
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,960
gonna do it i'm sorry but i'm never gonna call them athletes i'm okay with

736
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:53,040
this they're e-athletes okay it takes an extremely high degree of skill and

737
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:56,559
precision and all this kind of stuff but it's just a different form but it's not

738
00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:00,079
athleticism it's a different form um

739
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:04,640
and there can be benefits to that extreme control from being like an

740
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:08,960
athletic person and different being in good athletic cardiovascular shape

741
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,119
yeah they're just not the same thing yeah um

742
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,520
whoa if you were wondering if the mining

743
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,119
craze has reached the plateau and is coming down

744
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:26,800
taiwanese graphics card makers to see shipments plunge 40

745
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:29,440
in april so this includes Gigabyte MSI

746
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:33,040
and tool um many clients have suspended taking

747
00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:37,280
shipments in response to the drastic slowdown in demand for cryptocurrency

748
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,800
mining machines many mining farm operators are apparently awaiting the

749
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:45,920
rollout of ethereum mining machines by china's bit main in the third quarter of

750
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920
2018.

751
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:53,920
there's a rumor that apple's working on an 8k times 2 vr headset

752
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:59,440
um an 8k display for each eye that would be fantastic

753
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:03,359
i don't know how like big this thing would be uh the box would be powered by

754
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:07,440
a custom apple processor that's more powerful than anything currently available and it would act as the brain

755
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:13,200
for the headset uh in its current state the box resembles a pc tower but it won't be an

756
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:17,040
actual mac computer there's a few things that i'm really

757
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:20,640
surprised aren't in the dock and i don't have

758
00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:24,480
notes on it obviously but to like stepping stone you guys on to looking

759
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:28,800
into yourself there's apparently a huge lawsuit going on right now over RAM

760
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:35,280
pricing that we just got a bunch of news about uh there's uh eric lundgren

761
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:41,599
is possibly going to prison for repairing or for uh

762
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:43,680
burning freeware onto disks that is in

763
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:48,400
here and then oh it is okay so that was posted by ken blue24 on the forum that

764
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:53,200
actually is really important to cover um let's go ahead and

765
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:59,119
so an e-waste activist gets 15 months in prison for selling Windows restore disks

766
00:54:56,559 --> 00:55:01,839
yeah so these were downloaded from i don't know if you guys are gonna

767
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:07,280
remember this to be completely honest but back in the day uh you would get

768
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:12,960
restore disks with your laptop or your pc uh your desktop sorry and now you can

769
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:16,559
download them and burn them yourself or put them onto flash drives or whatever

770
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:20,079
and he would charge as far as i know he would charge 20. 25 cents he was

771
00:55:18,319 --> 00:55:24,800
charging for which is essentially the essentially disc yes like the physical

772
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,160
medium that he put it on to yeah there are a few additional problems that not a

773
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:33,440
lot of people are putting light on one of them is that apparently they were labeled

774
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:37,760
as like microsoft Windows which causes a big problem yeah that's a

775
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:43,440
big intellectual property problem but that was not the focus

776
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:50,559
of the court case right the focus of the court case was apparently selling the

777
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:53,680
software um when clearly the software is

778
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:55,760
available for download and cannot be

779
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,000
activated without a license and the license key is what actually matters

780
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:04,640
here and he wasn't selling license keys he was selling he was

781
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:09,520
selling helping people who had lost their recovery disk

782
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:13,359
get Windows back on their computer with their existing license in a really nice

783
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:17,280
way because he was helping you do it yourself and he was doing it for 25

784
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:21,839
cents the cost of the disc that doesn't it doesn't properly in my opinion

785
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:24,240
include uh labor that that's like taking

786
00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:27,839
some business away from him directly and microsoft apparently as far as i know

787
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:32,640
went after him for the perceived value so i think it was

788
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:36,799
like twenty dollars a disc yeah so saying that it was worth like almost

789
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:41,440
three quarters of a million dollars um and apparently their problem with all

790
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:47,280
of this is that it is causing lost sales but that is a very frankly uh

791
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,599
argument it's completely incorrect because those people already have a

792
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:55,440
license for Windows so we shouldn't be trying to sell them another license for

793
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:58,640
Windows because they already have one and that is what is known in the

794
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:03,440
industry as a dick move

795
00:57:01,359 --> 00:57:07,040
so there's a couple of problems here um he did break the law he did

796
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:12,880
sell copyrighted material which is wrong and

797
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:14,240
bad and illegal

798
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:20,240
but this kind of behavior the intent because

799
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:23,440
i'm a firm believer that we should look

800
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,559
not at the action so much as at the

801
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:29,200
intent like if someone's like

802
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:34,640
you're a dick that's obviously really different from

803
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:35,599
you know what you're a really nice guy

804
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:42,559
yeah so there's what you say but there's what you mean and in this case yes what he

805
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:46,880
did was technically incorrect and technically illegal but it's the kind of

806
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:50,720
thing where i think a letter probably would have done the trick and not and

807
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:55,599
like yeah it comes down to the the basics of does the punishment match the

808
00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:01,359
crime and this is that's right extremely not the case if someone was

809
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:05,359
driving down the road at 200 kilometers an hour

810
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:10,480
and they blow through a school zone they would be unlikely to get 15 months

811
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:13,040
in prison in spite of the fact that

812
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:16,880
okay maybe no one actually gets hurt but they could have really dangerous easily

813
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,520
like you know hit a rock at that kind of a

814
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:24,880
speed in a residential area and this thing this kind of stuff happens they

815
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,720
could have easily like hit a rock and flown into someone's house or like run

816
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:34,960
over a bunch of school children or whatever they can fire it out and nailed someone

817
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:37,440
they will not get 15 months in prison

818
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,280
and here we're talking about in

819
00:58:38,319 --> 00:58:45,040
with as far as we can tell a good intention

820
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:48,079
someone printing these disks and making them available to people who are not

821
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:52,400
tech savvy enough to download them on their own and we're putting this person in prison

822
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:56,640
for 15 months this really doesn't make a ton of sense to me someone in twitch

823
00:58:54,079 --> 00:59:01,119
chat was like right to travel and honestly i don't blame the courts

824
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:05,359
for this i don't blame the law i don't blame the court system i blame microsoft

825
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:09,119
microsoft should not be going after this guy they should have

826
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:13,760
sent a strongly worded letter told them not to do it and

827
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:18,079
ideally created a system where people can download these recovery disks far

828
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:22,000
more easily because as much as the disk does usually say on it don't lose this

829
00:59:20,319 --> 00:59:28,559
or you won't be able to reinstall that's bs2 there's absolutely no reason why

830
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:31,040
physical media it is 2018

831
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:35,280
there's no reason why physical media should prevent you in any way from

832
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:39,520
installing and using your software that you have a valid license for

833
00:59:38,319 --> 00:59:44,799
so i guess that's all i have to say about that there's there's yeah there's there's legitimate issues with the use

834
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:47,760
of logos names or whatever but they took it too far

835
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:53,839
they should have said don't use our logos that's like someone uploading a meme on

836
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:58,240
the internet with my face in it and us immediately going straight to a lawsuit

837
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:02,240
rather than being like you know yo you've crossed the line

838
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:06,319
there you actually can't use that we usually like memes yeah we love it so

839
01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:10,160
go ahead please do it i saw one with you in it recently where

840
01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:13,119
it was like the four panel one and you like run into an apple store with money

841
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:19,280
in your hand have you seen it i posted that on twitter the lost meme yeah yeah it's fantastic

842
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:24,079
it's so funny nobody sent that to me you know how i found it

843
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,680
for the first time ever read it i was

844
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:29,440
bored oh i don't remember the last time i was

845
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:33,359
bored you got so much on your plate my kids were doing something and i like

846
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:38,720
needed to supervise them and i needed to kind of be there but like so i

847
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:42,799
went to our slash all and i made it four pages in and i was

848
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:46,720
like holy crap that's me because it wasn't in like pcmr or like

849
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:50,480
any of the places that i would normally pay attention to where was it uh i'm

850
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:56,480
gonna have to check uh Linus mac lost meme reddit that

851
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,839
should not bring it up uh

852
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:03,359
no um

853
01:01:01,359 --> 01:01:06,319
wow yeah i don't think i'm even like mentioned in it though

854
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:13,440
yeah i can't even like i can't even find it now

855
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:17,680
uh i'll have to go on our twitter and like find our post of the of the reddit

856
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,880
page but like oh yeah cause i didn't send it to you

857
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:24,400
because i noticed that you had posted it i

858
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:29,760
remember that now or was it your personal one uh no no it

859
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:31,839
was on the uh the company one

860
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,960
i figured it was on topic enough yeah i think so

861
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:39,440
there we go no found this on okay crap i didn't i

862
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,839
didn't i didn't post the link to reddit dang it

863
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:50,079
that was funny imac loss right at imac loss

864
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:54,799
nope yep can't find it i'm sure someone has posted it in twitch chat by now yeah

865
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,880
no twitch chat is full of people complaining about reddit search

866
01:01:57,119 --> 01:02:02,000
yeah well there you go um

867
01:02:00,319 --> 01:02:05,119
wow this is awesome we have a stay hydrated bot

868
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:08,240
you've been live for just over an hour i modded it by this point in your

869
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:12,720
broadcast you should have consumed four ounces 120 milliliters of water to

870
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:18,559
maintain optimal hydration stay hydrated body is amazing how am i doing here

871
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,559
oh wow i'm like double that

872
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,359
keep going well that's still cold ow

873
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:29,440
i have an insulated bottle now so i'm not used to it it's like really good

874
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:33,520
though i got this on amazon you like can't even it's like not cold

875
01:02:31,839 --> 01:02:37,680
at all there's still ice in there you did show me up at lunch oh i played

876
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,480
along to like try to bring the stream all right so thanks for

877
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,240
watching guys we'll see you again next week same bedtime same bat channel

878
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:48,280
bye guys uh intro

879
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:54,079
already had some people applying thank you

880
01:02:54,319 --> 01:02:58,000
apply harder please

881
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:06,880
straight up like i still can't find it tried Linus mac meme

882
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:11,040
let's try Linus mac meme reddit is this my summary of the Linus tech

883
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:14,319
tips controversy is that it nope oh wow that's

884
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:18,079
that's interesting uh the show is brought to you by private internet

885
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:21,920
access spectrum and ltx and also this is weird

886
01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:32,640
i haven't even found i've never i haven't even seen this there is so much

887
01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:39,839
discussion of this i think even more than the tampon thing i love how amazon

888
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:39,839
how stupid that is

889
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,319
um

890
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:48,079
yeah the top comment this is interesting it's not like they were asking apple to

891
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:54,000
fix it under warranty he said he was willing and expecting to pay for it here's the biggest issue he's voided the

892
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:58,000
warranty in a spectacular way it doesn't matter even if he pays double the cost

893
01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:03,520
of the mac just to fix it which would be super dumb because you could never pay

894
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:05,119
more than the cost of the mac to fix it

895
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:10,799
apple then has to give a warranty on the repair then that puts them in all sorts of poo

896
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,720
if something else is broken due to his tampering no because nothing else could

897
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:18,640
be broken because the entire thing would be brand new

898
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:23,559
that's not how this stuff works it's just you know what well we'll make a

899
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,559
video later bye