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game we we can't get give them everything right now I know so that

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that's it we got to hold out on them apple is rumored to be buying Beats

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electronics for 3.2 billion which would

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make it their biggest acquisition to date a marriage made in heaven perhaps

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match made in heaven a marriage of

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devils well I don't personally really have anything against Apple products

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let's wait we'll get giv too much

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information man there's Oculus bird simulator see that's it help show you

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too much information that bowel movement that I

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had before we started the show wow I might have heard that anyways

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uh Amazon patents taking photos against a white background and then intro time

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no you forgot about the Oculus thing I just said that how could you forget

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Oculus I just said that I didn't hear it

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what I said I said what I said Oculus R have bird stimulator if I didn't all the

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information it's not like you have a dash I'm going to give too much

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information that was what that led into that whole thing oh that makes sense

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okay you never set up the intro did you oh yeah I did

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handles or I lost track of what we were talking about okay so let's move into

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our first topic which is just

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unbelievable so this was originally posted on the Forum by pit

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5,000 and Amazon has allegedly um made

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it so that lonus didn't plug in his notebook before they started the stream

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so he's GNA have to go ahead and just pray to the technology gods that

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this is going to that's not good really terrible not

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sure what happened there why why the why the sound let's try that one more time I

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apologize sincerely to our lovely viewers who did not want to hear that

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HDMI oh the title of the show is wrong

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thank you for that Nick we actually have a new guy Nick who is responsible for

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reminding me of things that are uh that should have been done yes I'm really

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sorry about uh about that noise I

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apologize uh did it update are we good are we it

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was like er I was like okay do it again

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thank you twist you are so awesome I

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love you okay well that's better all right so pit 5000 posts uh this is great

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an article that originally appeared on gizmodo.com about Amazon's revolutionary

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new patent taking photos on a white background now to be clear this isn't

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pure patent troll asshattery yeah it's

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just mostly patent Troll asshattery And

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to be clear patent troll mostly refers

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to when the company uses their patents

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to be aggressive about things and attack people to attack others and really the

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thing the funniest thing about this patent to me is not that Amazon filed

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for it or that it was granted but that no I don't know what

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I'm least surprised that they filed for it CU big companies just file for

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everything just to see if they can make something stick I'm extremely surprised

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it was ever granted and I'm sure they are too but there's some specific

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interesting things they go down into specifics on the level of how much

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wattage the lights use um what ISO your

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camera has to be at what f-stop your camera has to be at here's a diagram

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exact positioning of all the lights and all the cameras like it's insanely

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specific um if you go yeah you can see some it here and if you go to the um the

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the Second Source in the dock you can actually scroll down and then see all

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the crazy specifics that are on there so the Second Source right there yeah so

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here's the actual uh office here I'm

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just going to switch over there so I mean okay I guess the thing that

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surprises me here these are all the crazy spefic yeah so we're in the second

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rear light source is further positioned at a distance above the floor that is about 1.5 to 2.5 times the first

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distance and oriented at a downward relative to the floor and it's like this

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entire thing so you know what no the

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thing that surprises me is that Amazon filed for this yeah as opposed to that

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it was granted because it's specific enough basically the idea is that Amazon

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doesn't want to waste resources and really no one does they don't want to

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waste resources touching things up in post processing we waste a fair bit of

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time around here using a green screen because when you have a green screen if

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the lights aren't exactly the same that time or the actor stands a little bit

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further back or further forward or whatever the case may be you can end up

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with a situation where you have to touch it up and you have to tweak it in order to get it to look right Amazon be able

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to tell because the pixels that's right Amazon's technique requires no touchups

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and that's what they're patenting they're patenting a perfect technique

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for taking photos on a white background so that no touch-ups are required so I

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can kind of see why it would be granted the thing I don't understand is why

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Amazon bothered to file it because of two things number

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one is that by filing this extremely detailed patent all they've effectively

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done is given anyone and their dog the

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ability to replicate their supposed perfect technique that has never been

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done before yeah for taking perfect product photos the other thing is that

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they could never prove that anyone reading this patent and replicating

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their exact technique used it someone

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could just say oh well no I had the pedestal slightly lower it was at 39.5

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degrees like there's there's so many very specific things that you could

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change by a very small amount and then Dodge the pet so I I don't understand

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the point of

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it maybe you guys can enlighten me you

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know what Twitter Blitz um obviously I

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know you I don't need to see the usual rant about how the P system is

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flawed we know we all everyone knows that it's terrible and this honestly

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this is going to help that case a lot yeah because like this is ridiculous I

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mean it is ridiculous but with some of the stuff that we've seen get through it

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doesn't surprise me that it got approved but I would like to hear you guys say

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you know does this seem like the kind of thing that Amazon should have even

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bothered with or does it seem like the kind of thing that

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they well yeah I that's there's only

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really one answer here isn't there you know what random Twitter Blitz hit us up

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on at Linus and let us know something

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anything we love you guys we just want to hear from you you never

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call oh how funny that it's Mother's Day

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coming up and that's the first thing on your mind I

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was before I was like just there guilty conscience I've been to my parents house

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twice conscience the week's not even over I tried to go visit my mom but she

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was too busy with her grandson at the pond to take her phone with her so I sat

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in the parking lot at their apartment building for an hour I was able to make

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good use of the time I switched over from the 1 M8 to the 5S so bam when's

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your review coming from thanks to my mom I'm an Apple user again uh it's going to

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be coming probably not this weekend but next weekend is the plan so I'll be

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doing like a retrospective um what it was like being

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an iOS user and then an Android User now iOS user again but I'll spoil the ending

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for you guys I am switching back to the 1 M8 oh um so that that's going to

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happen what I'd really like to do is give the Moto X a longer try because I

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only really used it for my review and I didn't use it for as long as I would

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have liked so he's borrowing the Moto X because he can't keep his phones in one

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place or not broken but I'd like to give the Moto X another shot and then I'll

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probably end up on the one made again um

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speaking of one thing I like about the Moto X yes um is that you know I don't

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know if the 1 M8 can do this but I found a lot of Android phones the Okay Google

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thing doesn't really work Siri is amazing okay with with Moto

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X you can just say Okay Google and it'll start working oh yeah yeah yeah that's

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unique yeah yeah but like uh why isn't

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that on everything Siri is amazing I've

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never used it so get this I didn't even know if it could do this the thing about

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Google Google now is that you have to kind of like Google what it can do and

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then you have to like remember what it can do it's not intuitive

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last night I set an alarm for 8:30 and I

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was like my wife was like you're not going to get up at 8:30 I was like no no

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I'm going to get up at 8:30 she's like you're not going to get up at 8:30 I'm

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going to wake up I'm not going to be able to go back to sleep and you're not

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going to get up till 9 so set your alarm till 9: and I was like motivate me and

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so I set my alarm to 9 and um so all I

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had to do is be like tomorrow's alarm for 8:30 change it to 9:00 or something

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along those lines like in my vernacular I just told it what to do and it's like

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okay I changed that for you and like I didn't even believe it I just I like I I

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had to double I don't think you could do that with cool now and I was just like

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holy crap Google has and I think you

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could do it in two steps I think you could remove the alarm and then you could create a new one but it's not it's

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not as elegant and like Google's voice calling is

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ridiculous it's stupid voice calling

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what you mean yeah if you're like call whoever mobile it's like

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would you like to call this yes I just said that would you like to call home Mo

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yes I just said that Apple would you

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call my wife mobile calling Mobile

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ringing the only people I really call are in my favorite favorites anyways so

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it's almost faster for me to just be like click on phone click on person but

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like driving and stuff yeah yeah like I have reasons that I cuz normally yeah

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I'll I'll down and there are things that I miss about Android like Apple doesn't

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have uh T9 dialing which is awesome yeah

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like head explode awesome the first time I saw it um and that's how I dial most

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of the time but Siri is so much easier to use than Google now that I just

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absolutely love it I'm not super great with Google now so someone might um yeah

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someone's probably tearing me apart because there's some exact way that you

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can word it so that Google Now will understand you but I don't care that's

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not a great user experience that's one thing even without using Siri that I've

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been kind of able to pick up SP fox is like don't even start on S Voice well s

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sorry go ahead no one cares um didn't they do a thing recently about like how

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much people actually use the sa apps it

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was like not at all I can't remember who did that I have

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no Source I I just I think that happened no I missed that that sounds fantastic

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though I already love it if you've ever seen her Siri seems more like the AI

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operating systems in her Google Now seems more like the thing he's using

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before that but like a really early version of it right cuz you can kind of

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talk to Siri yep you can't really talk to Google Now if you try to talk to it

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it'll just Google what you said I hate that so much it makes me so mad like no

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I didn't want so mad I want you to Google something I would have said like

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Google search and then what I wanted you know what well you know what pisses me

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off most about Google now is I live in Su I live in a city I live in a city

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called sui okay and so half the time I try to navigate anywhere it's like

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something something Siri Siri whereas Siri knows what I'm talking

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about it can tell the difference between Siri and Siri and that is impressive to

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me all right so that actually LED in really well to uh a couple of topics

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here so number one was oh balls where is

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it what yes Stephen Hawkings says AI

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could be our worst nightmare you were talking about a very bad quote

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um worst mistake in history or something

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yeah it because they're grabbing like the second half of it it's it could be

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like their it could be the best thing or it could be the worst mistake yeah so so

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fortunately minimalist the uh gent who posted this or lady who posted this on

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the Forum has the actual quote which is

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sort of blah blah blah blah blah it's good saying it could be the most

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significant thing to ever happen in human history as it's oh no wait no no

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he didn't oh B all right so we'll have to go here could be our worst mistake in

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history but that is a very sensationalist

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headline ah okay forget it Luke already

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covered it pretty well so the idea is that what he actually said is that it

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could be the greatest thing ever or it could also be our worst mistake because

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we can't predict what here it is um

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although we are facing potentially the best or worst thing to happen in human

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in to happen to humanity in history so they grabbed like like the second half

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of a sentence then we're like oh my God but what he actually said was best or

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worst and I'm going to post this I'm going to post this link in the twitch

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chat because that's something that we should always do in general yeah and um

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you know what I was really I was proud of the internet today because I was

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reading this article and I was like oh great article but you know I wonder what

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people think about it it's got like a bajillion comments under it George

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dorski here actually posted like a

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cogent and well structured and

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respectful sort of disagreement with what everyone else is saying that I

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really quite enjoyed reading or maybe that's not the right one oh crap hold on

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which one was it um those those look like a lot of

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very wellth thought out replies which is not very common I thought that was the

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article that you're reading through this is the one this one's right George dori's thing is absolutely awesome and

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he kind of talks about how I think that's I think that's PV talking to

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George oh to okay PV PV you are the man

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or woman because that is that is that is a great response and it just kind of

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talks about how a lot of the fear that people have of AI is is based on the

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assumption that AI would behave the way that humans do and that it would

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perceive a lesser a lesser being as

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something it has to crush or has to destroy and gives he kind of outlines

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three likely scenarios so SC scario a

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which is that the AI attempts to destroy Humanity scenario B that the AI attempts

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to help humanity and scenario C that it just does nothing at all and the

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argument that AI would probably choose option C or option b without us noticing

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so a combination of the two seems most likely if a computer were to operate

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from a purely logical perspective what does it stand to gain destroying us

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really well probably a better environment a better environment for

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what it's metal it's not like it's going to take up space but it needs to be able

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to gain electricity if it had solar electricity we could possibly pollute

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the guy or ruin things

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right if its only goal is gaining electricity we are organisms that are

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using electricity as well so if it got rid of us then it could use all the electricity which assumes that it needs

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more electricity which assumes that it needs more there's a yeah I don't know I

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haven't even read this I'm just throwing in Devil's advocacy so yeah I mean so so

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anyway this writer makes a very very strong argument for it probably doing

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nothing that's and honestly that's kind of my side of it as well is because we

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we would pretty much have to program in the like hate for us for that to even

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happen or not I mean because I mean the whole the whole thing the whole AI thing

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is that it can learn is that it can learn and it can come up with its own

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ideas and if that idea happens to be a way to improve itself or to manipulate

00:18:23.760 --> 00:18:31.960
people to you know improve it or whatever else the case may be I suspect

00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:38.039
a very smart being would want to do all that without being

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noticed that's all yeah all right so and

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that actually LED really well into one of our oh you know what let's do our

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Twitter Blitz and then we'll move into one of the other things that uh LED

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pretty well into one of our topics here which was Samsung's head of mobile

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design resigns after the Galaxy S 5's poor reception so uh I actually I I I

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definitely I you know Samsung's one of those companies that just I don't know

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what it is but they're pretty fun to beat up um you know like I I love a lot

00:19:04.520 --> 00:19:11.240
of things about them but other times they just make me make me want to shake

00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:17.799
my head and cry all right so Mark says Linus why do you use IE uh because this

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is a fresh OS and ie is what I'm logged

00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:24.000
into everything with there's on that computer I know but I'm not logged into

00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:28.720
everything I'm lazy don't forget the outro this time thank you Joey oh here's

00:19:26.679 --> 00:19:31.600
lonus in his Lambo where is that picture picture whenever anyone photoshops

00:19:30.320 --> 00:19:40.360
anything that's always the picture of you that they use this picture yeah um

00:19:34.320 --> 00:19:43.159
it is from a thumbnail on an ancient ncx

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Tech tips outside of the old NCI like before you you don't have it on any

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profiles or anything anymore I used to have it on my first Google Plus profile

00:19:51.120 --> 00:19:58.720
so like how is anyways I just I see it so often this is see you can tell the

00:19:56.840 --> 00:20:02.159
quality of this one is quite poor yeah so this could have been pulled from

00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:06.280
someone else putting it somewhere oh okay so I think that's how things spread

00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:09.400
on the that makes sense yeah um as the patent is so specific it's fairly

00:20:07.919 --> 00:20:13.400
worthless not like that covers everything related Apple ones exactly

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and that is exactly my point why they even bother how is it even worth the

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thousands of dollars that it cost to file a patent yeah all they're doing is

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revealing how I could go and build that studio tomorrow thank you Amazon not

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that I'm going to do that of course not cuz we use might do something similar

00:20:29.679 --> 00:20:35.760
but yeah we could do it with green instead of white yeah when is the NCIX

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ultimate Nas setup video coming uh at some point I'm not sure it's up to

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Wheels over there and why no guests in when quite frankly because I'm lazy

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Intel z97 is out with Haswell refresh coming on Sunday I've never understood

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why Intel does this or AMD for that matter where they launch a chipset

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without a CPU or vice versa um so I mean

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we have like a literal stack of z97 boards that I haven't even looked at

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because why would I even bought B benchmarking them with non Haswell

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refresh chips I don't understand so

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we'll wait until some Haswell refresh stuff lands and then we'll uh we'll get

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on that for you guys okay did you know about boink

00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:24.360
yes we have a boink team of forums that is like huge so if you're interested in

00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:29.120
joining check it out we're top in Canada for like a few different things and

00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:30.400
we're World recognized so yeah we also

00:21:29.120 --> 00:21:36.360
have a giant folding team if you want to join that too the folding team is actually bigger in relation than the

00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:39.480
boink team is so David Cooper says if you make a great AI someone will

00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:43.559
eventually tell it to do something evil but that assumes the AI can't think for

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itself which it can because listen to anyone awesome Jake plush thank you Rob

00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:53.480
says I just ordered some i8s thanks to the recommendation and yes I use the

00:21:51.120 --> 00:21:58.279
sponsor link Rob you're awesome yay thank you for being awesome also the i8s

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are awesome yeah I still use them every

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day I love them they're fantastic I used iPhone 4 my experience was very

00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:07.279
disappointing I was since I switched then but I but I may test the iPhone 6

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I'm really interested to see what Apple does with iPhone 6 if you don't think

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five days oh oh this is a tweet in

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response to something that I was talking about on Twitter last night where

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OnePlus offered me a 5day laner unit of

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the OnePlus One and I basically told them forget it because what I can do is

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like I'll play around with it for five days and then I can talk about it on WOW

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but I'm not going to do a review because quite frankly the our review of the 1 M8

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which I think represents the very best that I can do at least right now in

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terms of a phone review our review of the 1 M8 took me well over a week just

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to to use the phone and make notes on and prepare and then like obviously it

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wasn't a week dedicated to just that I was making other videos throughout that

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week but everything's kind of like that where I'll spend a week with it parttime

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and and I'll be making notes as I go then it took me hours to compile into a

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full script hours to shoot and then it

00:23:02.600 --> 00:23:08.159
took a full day for one of my editors to edit so I'm sitting there going okay so

00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:12.840
you're going to give me five days with this what I'm going to rush my

00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:16.679
review all in the name of I can play with a phone for five days well sorry

00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:21.360
what's in this for me what's in this for my viewers why am I doing this even like

00:23:19.840 --> 00:23:25.760
our phone reviews actually started off with monthlong trials that was the whole

00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:30.840
thing with us starting phone reviews and then even with the Tegra Note which I

00:23:28.520 --> 00:23:36.520
didn't even do a ton on I had it for uh slightly over a week and on the

00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:40.360
Saturday during that week I spent literally the entire day doing nothing

00:23:38.320 --> 00:23:45.320
else except for playing with the tablet so yeah so that's kind of the idea we

00:23:43.159 --> 00:23:49.360
don't necessarily do the spec heavy reviews that other guys do or the

00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:52.799
benchmarks that they do we focus on what it's like to actually use the bloody

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thing I noticed I never got the Tegra Note back it's

00:23:55.520 --> 00:24:04.320
doing Ah that's right oh we have a really cool video coming soon there's a

00:24:00.159 --> 00:24:06.840
product that claims to use UV light to

00:24:04.320 --> 00:24:11.279
clean your phone at night so we actually we got like real Petri dishes and stuff

00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:13.960
and like did swabs and stuff so we're going to let you guys know if that works

00:24:12.600 --> 00:24:18.919
that's coming really soon that was like immediately after my I I remember that

00:24:17.159 --> 00:24:24.400
now I thought you were stealing company property again why Wherever Would I get

00:24:21.600 --> 00:24:29.559
that idea Wherever Would I get that idea I'm like you all right so let's uh move

00:24:27.360 --> 00:24:35.120
on to our next topic here Samsung's head of mobile design resigns after Galaxy

00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:38.960
S5s Pooh reception it's funny where that got cut off on the

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page it's cuz he's zoomed in too much there we go

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poor I mean it's pretty accurate in terms of parties what would a pooh

00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:54.279
reception be hopefully not fondu hopefully not

00:24:52.520 --> 00:24:59.360
fondu a

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a I was trying to of some way to spin it well and then I was like well it could

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be like a fond do thing and I was like that's actually really disgusting that's

00:25:04.679 --> 00:25:10.799
actually a lot worse um so

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anyway so so follow posted originally on

00:25:15.399 --> 00:25:22.960
the Forum by etj um so he he has resigned following

00:25:20.360 --> 00:25:27.399
criticism about the Galaxy S5s uh lack of thank you for using a

00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:31.760
word that I actually don't know how to pronounce appreciate that B egj so

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:35.480
though the Galaxy S 5's design did not actually deviate too far from earlier

00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:40.000
models it's looks and textured plastic back where round were roundly I'm not

00:25:38.480 --> 00:25:44.640
even reading this anymore you're from like the UK and you're writing it wrong

00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:47.880
so basically reviewers didn't like the build quality they didn't like the

00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:53.919
backing material I don't know what people didn't like about the backing material I liked it it's different it's

00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:57.000
easier to grip I'm not against it yeah like I actually quite like the backing

00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:01.520
of the Galaxy S5 it's one of the things I did like about it cuz I like TouchWiz

00:25:59.120 --> 00:26:08.520
that's for sure I I mean honestly I think the criticism of the S5 is less

00:26:05.600 --> 00:26:12.080
about the S5 not being a solid incremental Improvement honestly the

00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:15.880
build quality feels a lot better than the S4 to me it has less Flex in it by

00:26:14.159 --> 00:26:20.600
far it's waterproof and or water resistant rather and all that stuff but

00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:27.080
I think it's more to do with the phone Community getting bored and not actually

00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:29.600
recognizing their own boredom for what

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it is they're it's harder for them to find things to get excited about

00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:38.159
compared to in the past when there were so many amazing new Innovations coming

00:26:36.919 --> 00:26:42.360
with every new smartphone and we've talked about this a fair bit on the show

00:26:39.919 --> 00:26:49.080
but it's kind of like PC enthusiasts saying you know uh MSI or ASUS's or

00:26:46.399 --> 00:26:54.559
whoever's new motherboard isn't exciting therefore it sucks well really it's just

00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:59.120
mature now and it's not changing much anymore and you're just not into it that

00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:04.279
much anymore and and I think people are not recognizing that they're losing the

00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:07.039
interest maybe not in the software side I think there's still a lot of

00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:11.600
innovation to happen on the software side of things but in terms of the

00:27:09.520 --> 00:27:17.480
hardware we've all basically Consolidated down to you know an iPhone

00:27:14.679 --> 00:27:21.279
one of various sizes or shapes yeah that's very very similar one one thing

00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:24.720
that I like like every single time we bring this up I bring up LG because they

00:27:23.399 --> 00:27:29.640
did move the buttons to the back like there is things you can do with layout

00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:32.000
and stuff um that still has been untried yet and there's going to be things like

00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:38.200
virtual keyboards and stuff that people are going to be working on but it's not going to be like major drastic

00:27:36.159 --> 00:27:42.440
gamechanging things on every single phone

00:27:39.360 --> 00:27:45.080
release so that's um so that's that's

00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:48.720
what I think this is I mean um you know despite the perceived lack of beauty

00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:54.399
Samsung managed to sell 86 million smartphones in Q4 last year uh widening

00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:58.720
it lead over Apple but Samsung is apparently struggling to make a profit

00:27:55.799 --> 00:28:02.760
on its phone thanks in part to I hate the way this is written anyway

00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:07.760
they spend a lot on marketing so that's uh that's costing them a lot um I guess

00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:11.760
that's all there is to really say about that is I I think it's just people not

00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:16.000
being excited about the phones in general and not that Samsung is

00:28:13.399 --> 00:28:19.600
particularly doing anything wrong I mean um I I mean they are doing things wrong

00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:24.840
but they're not doing anything really new wrong like they're still they're

00:28:21.679 --> 00:28:27.600
still making Touch wiz for old people

00:28:24.840 --> 00:28:30.880
which I like I don't know how to fix something like that that because when

00:28:29.679 --> 00:28:34.960
you've when you've cornered the market on old people who can't see their screens very well it's not like you want

00:28:33.399 --> 00:28:38.080
to go ahead and change all your UI elements and make them small but you

00:28:36.760 --> 00:28:46.799
could you could have like a scaling option or something yeah you could have scaling that works better I guess that

00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:48.440
that's an option um all right so I was

00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:55.480
looking for a segue here and I've got nothing but this is absolutely brutal I

00:28:51.679 --> 00:28:56.840
mean when I first heard about this I um

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I was kind of sitting there going well geez I hope this doesn't go any where

00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:05.000
because we review things and sometimes we say negative things about them so you

00:29:03.600 --> 00:29:10.880
you were actually looking into this a fair bit I thought do you want to cover this one I've done a lot of talking was

00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:16.519
but I don't know where it's really going to go Amazon asked them really hardcore

00:29:14.399 --> 00:29:20.559
really quickly you're skipping to the ending you haven't told them what

00:29:17.679 --> 00:29:25.919
happened yet I I don't like okay so someone someone um posted a review and

00:29:23.360 --> 00:29:29.720
then Media Bridge fre freaked out um people are saying that Media Bridge has

00:29:27.159 --> 00:29:33.760
had falsified or reviews in the past and then this one crazy flammatory review

00:29:31.679 --> 00:29:36.720
was really bad Media Bridge came back saying that oh you cost all these people

00:29:35.600 --> 00:29:42.039
jobs and all this kind of stuff by posting this review and it's flammatory

00:29:38.679 --> 00:29:43.720
so we're going to go after you um I'm

00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:48.200
not exactly what sure happened between them at that point but then Amazon asks

00:29:46.120 --> 00:29:54.159
them completely they cannot sell through Amazon anymore uh I believe that still

00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:56.360
does mean that other sellers through

00:29:54.159 --> 00:30:00.440
Amazon could sell their products right but they can't sell as an Amazon product

00:29:59.080 --> 00:30:04.840
which will probably hurt them a lot because I know at least me I know there's people that don't care but

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:09.600
personally if I'm buying something off Amazon it has to come from Amazon or

00:30:07.120 --> 00:30:13.679
else why am I buying it off Amazon oh I just buy stuff off of Amazon Marketplace

00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:19.120
all the time the reason is that Amazon Market Place um means you have Amazon's

00:30:16.840 --> 00:30:24.480
customer service as a protective I've tried that before didn't really work

00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:29.640
really oh I they were like yeah we can't really do much it's not us I was like

00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:34.440
okay oh wow yeah that's why I personally only do it through Amazon I have done it

00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:38.120
example I have done it before right and it totally didn't work out at all I

00:30:36.120 --> 00:30:42.159
bought an old school game and it came in the box and stuff and it was a really

00:30:39.159 --> 00:30:44.240
good price and I ordered online and I've

00:30:42.159 --> 00:30:47.840
never really liked ordering old school games online because it's very possible

00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:51.880
like the the game store that I buy from locally they have like a nday return

00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:57.240
thing so you can go home make sure the game actually works because it's probably ancient and then if it doesn't

00:30:55.600 --> 00:31:00.399
work you get your money back online that can be part of kind of an issue right

00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:04.880
right sometimes it's not even worth the cost of shipping it back yeah it it

00:31:02.320 --> 00:31:08.519
depends this time it didn't work and I was like okay well I want my money back

00:31:06.679 --> 00:31:12.200
because it was a nice inbox game and it did cost a little bit of money and they

00:31:10.679 --> 00:31:17.200
weren't responding so I went to Amazon customer service and they were like well

00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:21.080
huh I don't know well there you go okay well you learn something every day so

00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:26.480
basically so the what it looked like was going to happen here at first was that

00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:29.200
just you know a guy posted a negative

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:34.840
review where I okay the negative review did contain some pretty specific

00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:37.080
criticisms of uh of Media Bridge media

00:31:34.840 --> 00:31:41.240
link and that was that it was a just a rebadged router which honestly a lot of

00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:45.000
consumers think that that's a really big deal it's not most things that you're

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:48.840
going to be buying are actually rebadged have you ever bought you know like and

00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:54.080
it depends on how you even want to Define like rebadged have you ever

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:57.080
bought a deink wireless adapter because

00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:59.720
it's just gonna have an AOS or Marvel

00:31:57.080 --> 00:32:03.200
chipset on a PCB that's just going to be basically a reference design with some

00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:06.880
plastic thing around it with a plastic thing is that a rebadge I don't know is

00:32:04.919 --> 00:32:11.399
that an integrated a product from A supplier and that they sell to the

00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.440
consumer probably I don't know so I mean

00:32:11.399 --> 00:32:19.080
maybe it was a rebadge maybe it wasn't what the reviewer also said was that um

00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:24.559
okay so said it was uh blah blah blah said that they had falsified other

00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:29.399
reviews on Amazon in order to make their products seem better than they are which

00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:34.039
is a pretty serious accusation and so if they were going to go after him for

00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:39.880
liable then that would be potentially there would there potentially be a case

00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:41.840
there and then um the problem though is

00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:45.679
that what Media Bridge did is they came back saying you have harmed Media Bridge

00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:49.600
we intend to hold you liable for all damages sustained they said he must

00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:53.360
delete his negative product review on Amazon within 3 days of receiving the

00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:56.799
letter stop all defamatory and injurious conduct where the company and agree

00:32:54.639 --> 00:33:02.600
never to purchase or comment on a Media Bridge product again so uh the riewer

00:33:00.360 --> 00:33:09.799
has actually since changed the review to remove the statements but um you know I

00:33:06.600 --> 00:33:13.240
think that that's not

00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.440
uh yeah this quote too the damage is

00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:18.679
just kind of done at this point the quote about the REM the reviewer removing the statement is kind of

00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:23.200
interesting because it goes exactly like this the reviewer has since changed his

00:33:20.639 --> 00:33:27.440
review completely to remove the liist statements but unfortunately not before

00:33:25.360 --> 00:33:31.279
having an Army attack us on the internet yeah this is from Media Bridge so they

00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:37.519
they're they're basically accusing the reviewer of you know colluding with

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:39.639
other internet Denis to go and like

00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:43.799
thumbs up the review because it was a big part of the problem for media link I

00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:48.240
guess is that it was the most helpful negative review and honestly those are

00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:51.960
the ones that people see the most helpful positive one the most helpful

00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:57.799
negative one and it had a bunch of people thumbs it up saying it was

00:33:53.480 --> 00:34:00.960
helpful so and like I sometimes I see

00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:02.840
redit is just a pack of dogs that needs

00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.519
something to go after all the time it could be positive it could be negative

00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:09.800
it could be whatever and like maybe it just happened that there was no other

00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.280
really super important super positive or super negative news at that point in

00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:17.720
time and it hit Reddit right point in time they're just like ra because that

00:34:15.240 --> 00:34:21.040
happens yeah definitely a thing it's funny they use the word Army because you

00:34:19.560 --> 00:34:26.919
could probably describe the Reddit Community as an army sometimes you know

00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:30.440
who that Army works for exactly we're not sure but

00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:34.200
for the people in theory I guess but sometimes you know an army of the people

00:34:32.359 --> 00:34:39.359
without you know clear leadership and a clear sort of Direction can just kind of

00:34:36.720 --> 00:34:44.280
do things and whether they were wrong here or not actually hard to say I mean

00:34:41.720 --> 00:34:50.040
it's possible that Media Bridge was totally off Bas it's possible that the

00:34:46.879 --> 00:34:52.679
reviewer was totally off Bas and saying

00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:56.359
things that just blatantly weren't true but then it's always better to

00:34:54.359 --> 00:35:00.079
communicate with that person rather than having a lawyer do the communic yeah or

00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:06.320
just prove them wrong yeah I mean that's the issue to me is when you when the

00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:09.320
opening Salvo is do this or else cease

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:13.640
and desist or else the opening Salvo

00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:16.320
should be hey um yo do you mind yeah

00:35:13.640 --> 00:35:20.079
yeah and then if that's a problem well then you get the lawyers involved or

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:24.720
like talk to Amazon about their review service and try to bring up the whole

00:35:22.040 --> 00:35:27.839
like oh well he posted like surprisingly positive reviews on other people's

00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:32.800
things just to make ours look really bad look good and all that kind of stuff talk to Amazon about that um talk to him

00:35:31.200 --> 00:35:35.920
try and prove that you're not rebadging even though that probably doesn't matter

00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:39.560
try and prove all these other different things then you get posed as the good

00:35:38.200 --> 00:35:42.960
person and then the Reddit Army Gets behind you instead of in front of you

00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:48.000
good old Reddit Army all right so we've got our next

00:35:46.040 --> 00:35:52.920
topic here and that is that the developers this is just H this is

00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:57.720
interesting um this is terrible so the I think the official

00:35:55.880 --> 00:36:03.640
post saying that he was actually taking it down wasn't even done by the original

00:36:00.160 --> 00:36:03.640
developer let's see

00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:11.040
here yeah yeah yeah it wasn't even done by the original developer it was done by

00:36:08.640 --> 00:36:17.280
a guy that joined on and his agreement that was that he would make 15% of the

00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:19.960
sales of towns MH so it it became not

00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:23.400
worth it for him personally because Town sales were going down this isn't the

00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:27.359
game even isn't even released yet but Town sales were going down so he wasn't

00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:31.040
making enough money the original Creator ALS Al felt like he wasn't making enough

00:36:28.839 --> 00:36:36.400
money although the game is worth how much and then it's selling 200,000 times

00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:40.520
so that dude probably did actually make quite a bit of money um and in this post

00:36:39.319 --> 00:36:45.760
they talk about how they're interested in making a sequel did you know that part okay we

00:36:44.160 --> 00:36:50.240
haven't really given the audience any context did you sleep much last night

00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:53.240
are you tired um no but it's pretty straightforward okay but we haven't told

00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:57.359
it's an early access game that hasn't been released yet I saw that oh did you

00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:59.920
yeah then I I haven't been sleep last night

00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:05.200
it's like the second thing that you just straight up didn't

00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.040
hear anyways it's it first launched on

00:37:05.200 --> 00:37:10.200
Steam at the end of 2012 it's an in development game it's uh I think it's

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:15.480
through the Greenlight system that it was yeah it was one of the green lit

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:17.400
games um it's it's it's not out yet sold

00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:21.319
200,000 copies has been abandoned and they're planning on releasing I mean the

00:37:19.240 --> 00:37:27.160
original Dev abandoned it in February saying you know burned out handed it

00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:29.480
over to uh Florian frankenberger and

00:37:27.160 --> 00:37:35.400
then within a couple of months now it's not going well and development has been

00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:35.400
completely abandoned I mean

00:37:35.560 --> 00:37:41.000
um how do you fix this I don't know people have been talking about

00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:45.520
contractual obligation to complete a game if it gets

00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:51.680
greenlit so if you if you your complete mean yeah exactly I mean

00:37:48.680 --> 00:37:54.000
ask yeah that's a good point it's it's

00:37:51.680 --> 00:37:58.839
it's hard this is a problem with Early Access then we got that guy posting in

00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.599
our forums um where taking this away is

00:37:58.839 --> 00:38:04.920
going to hurt a massive amount of developers but then leaving this here is

00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:11.359
going to hurt a massive amount of people well because there are the success stories with Early Access like Minecraft

00:38:08.640 --> 00:38:14.760
Minecraft what an enormous success story and there's a lot of games that honestly

00:38:12.640 --> 00:38:19.560
people are enjoying playing right now because they're honestly not that broken

00:38:17.520 --> 00:38:24.119
and probably shouldn't be in beta or Early Access that are currently in Early

00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:27.960
Access like I know rust a lot of people were playing rust and having no real

00:38:25.560 --> 00:38:31.520
problems with it um now I there's a ton of bugs but don't worry about it um for

00:38:29.839 --> 00:38:34.680
a long time and I I don't know if it's released now or not but like a lot of

00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:38.839
people are playing it very actively there's a huge Community behind it and

00:38:36.839 --> 00:38:42.119
it was fine it's it's going okay and there's a lot of games that are like

00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:46.839
that um the guy that posted in our Forum I believe was for like robot dodgeball

00:38:44.520 --> 00:38:52.960
or something robot disco dodgeball I saw them at PA East actually

00:38:49.839 --> 00:38:54.800
um so yeah I don't I don't know how you

00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:58.359
exactly fix this a big problem is what you just brought up whereas if you put

00:38:56.319 --> 00:39:02.240
like a conat obligation where you have to release the game or have to complete

00:38:59.839 --> 00:39:07.160
the game if you decide to abandon it you can just be like not Early Access

00:39:03.839 --> 00:39:07.160
anymore now it's

00:39:07.359 --> 00:39:13.240
done yeah maybe they can have something where there's like a minimum goal like

00:39:12.040 --> 00:39:19.359
you have to have these amount of things in the game yeah but like how do you

00:39:16.240 --> 00:39:22.720
define that I mean the C okay the the

00:39:19.359 --> 00:39:23.800
lawyers involved in writing the contract

00:39:22.720 --> 00:39:28.240
that I mean and think about the development process of anything like

00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:33.400
what if what if lus Media Group what something changes a year and 4 and a

00:39:30.560 --> 00:39:39.400
half months ago had been told to contractually commit to what kind of

00:39:36.680 --> 00:39:45.000
videos we were going to do two years from now I mean the amount that what we

00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:49.800
do has changed in that time and I mean any creative processes like that you

00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:53.599
know like a a a game you might go okay we're going to have three campaigns and

00:39:51.720 --> 00:39:58.000
three races and you might kind of go oh this is stupid starcraft's been made

00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:02.480
already we're going to have six races or we're going to have two races or you

00:40:00.040 --> 00:40:07.640
know whatever else happens to be as long as you don't just have one race Donald

00:40:05.200 --> 00:40:11.200
then you know you're being very 21st century about it that's all I'm trying

00:40:08.839 --> 00:40:16.160
to say and the point is that that that it can change so the kind of contract

00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:19.359
that you would have to write to like spell it out in detail enough that they

00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:23.520
would actually have to deliver something I don't know how to fix it it's impossible I mean the loyers the lawyers

00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:27.520
would be happy with that Arrangement I'm sure yeah yeah one thing is like this is

00:40:26.040 --> 00:40:31.079
this comes back to the kickstarter talk we were talking about a long time ago and something that you guys should

00:40:29.680 --> 00:40:37.240
probably take a look at at if you're really interested in this is total biscuits video on Early Access um but

00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:40.560
it's it's where like do your research make sure the guy that you're supporting

00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:45.040
has like made a bunch of stuff Chris Roberts um hopefully it's a game Studio

00:40:43.359 --> 00:40:50.680
there are entire game studios putting stuff up on uh Greenlight and on um

00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:55.160
Kickstarter make sure that there's some sort of a background um it's I haven't

00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:59.720
read enough into it but I've heard some people saying that the guy that made towns has a few failed in the past I

00:40:58.359 --> 00:41:04.319
don't know if that's true I've just seen that in a few different places so like that's the kind of stuff you want to

00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:07.960
look into it's an early access game you are gambling to a certain point you're

00:41:06.200 --> 00:41:11.680
not you're not buying the game as is right now or if you are then you're

00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:16.640
happy with it already and it doesn't matter but that's the that's the problem

00:41:14.240 --> 00:41:20.960
is that people feel like when they pay for something they should get some like

00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:27.000
here and it's the whole well they should they should that's the whole Kickstarter

00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:30.560
problem is people perceive Kickstarter

00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:32.880
as is like buying something but the

00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:37.319
problem is that Kickstarter is more like a donation yeah cuz you're not buying

00:41:35.040 --> 00:41:40.960
something because often times they don't actually have to deliver it or it

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:47.480
doesn't have to be very functional and then the other times um wait so oh right

00:41:45.160 --> 00:41:51.960
right right so so and the other problem is that if it is really successful you

00:41:49.640 --> 00:41:56.800
don't actually get a cut of it so it's not an investment and it's not a

00:41:53.880 --> 00:42:01.240
purchase it's a donation to support someone who you think should make the

00:41:59.200 --> 00:42:06.040
thing that you like like honestly guys I've got what I think is a fantastic

00:42:03.560 --> 00:42:10.960
idea for a movie trailer that I want to make I think that lonus Media Group has

00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:16.960
gotten to the point where we are capable of creating an awesome movie trailer we

00:42:13.680 --> 00:42:19.880
are nowhere near capable of creating an

00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:23.760
awesome movie they're really different very different things completely

00:42:21.520 --> 00:42:28.160
different skill sets in a lot of ways but what we could easily do is we could

00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:31.760
kickstart and that's the thing is a well-merchandised Kickstarter so we

00:42:29.839 --> 00:42:35.960
could Kickstart support us to make this movie give us you know $100,000 or

00:42:33.839 --> 00:42:42.079
whatever the case may be we could make a fantastic trailer spend 15 $20,000 on

00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:45.119
that and then just you know buy ice

00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:47.079
cream with the other $80,000 release a

00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:53.280
movie that's like starring me and Luke and shot with like a phone

00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:55.200
camera and we haven't actually done

00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:59.160
anything illegal and like this ties in I think

00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:02.480
I've told this story on the show before where I I've backed a lot of Kickstarter

00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:09.000
projects most of them have been successful some of them have been glowingly successful to the point where

00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:13.160
um the the the guy that's made yeah Pebble real companies are formed but

00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:17.640
like some of the smaller ones that I've done where it is a company but now it's

00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:19.800
like two or three people and it's been a

00:43:17.640 --> 00:43:22.920
year and a half since I got my product in my hands for them like it's been a

00:43:21.319 --> 00:43:26.640
long time they're still in contact with all of us um all the kickstarter backers

00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:29.680
are getting huge discounts all the time just cuz they're like thank you you

00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:33.599
allowed us to become a thing that's awesome and that's what you kind of Hope

00:43:31.200 --> 00:43:36.559
happens from Kickstarter um and they they still allow us to put input in

00:43:35.319 --> 00:43:41.720
towards projects that they're doing in the future and stuff like that which is really cool but that doesn't happen all

00:43:39.640 --> 00:43:46.520
the time I have been completely screwed over I I bought into a Kickstarter the

00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:49.920
guy didn't post updates forever and then was randomly like yep nope I didn't do

00:43:48.720 --> 00:43:56.079
anything and I'm not going to do anything so nope like 100% And then he's like oh

00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.640
apparently I have to give refunds so give me your information and then no

00:43:58.040 --> 00:44:04.400
update and then months later he's like well I'm doing the refunds today no one

00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:08.200
got them and then radio silence since then I don't ever expect to get that

00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:11.680
money back because and you know what's really stupid is some of the

00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:17.800
kickstarters I've seen fail are even things as stupid as like playing

00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:19.760
cards they just flat out didn't make

00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:24.280
it's like really what did you spend the money on and you know a lot of the time

00:44:21.640 --> 00:44:29.559
I think it's on like a posh office and like a nice new computer to put on their

00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:31.319
fancy desk when really and it it

00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:36.160
frustrates me the way a lot of startups behave like they already are making the

00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:38.559
money as opposed to figuring out how to

00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:42.880
deliver the product the best that they possibly can to their customers the best

00:44:40.520 --> 00:44:45.960
way they possibly can without spending that money so that they can keep that

00:44:44.319 --> 00:44:50.960
money to reinvest in themselves for the future I mean that's how I think businesses should be run but a lot of

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:54.000
the time that's not really how it goes there was recently a kickstar I don't

00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.599
remember what this was for I wish I had research on this but um they they were

00:44:56.640 --> 00:45:02.760
complaining meaning that they had ran out of money because one of the employees in the company when they're

00:45:00.319 --> 00:45:05.280
running their Kickstarter was in like serious money troubles so when the

00:45:04.079 --> 00:45:08.760
kickstarter ended and they got all the money he took like a third of it and

00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:13.680
they were just like yeah it's a cash advance for like six month

00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:18.480
salary and then they're like oh wait we don't have any money left because we

00:45:15.040 --> 00:45:21.040
gave it all to him and it's like

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:24.280
what are you kidding me was that somewhere on the kickstarter page we

00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:27.760
were funding this guy's like probably I'm going to assume gambling troubles

00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:31.359
like could be drugs could be anything like no

00:45:30.040 --> 00:45:35.319
that wasn't a part of the kickstarter but could be just anything I I used to

00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:39.720
work with uh I used to have a co-worker who we were in sort of a similar without

00:45:37.839 --> 00:45:46.079
giving too much detail I I have some idea what kind of money uh she made and

00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:51.280
like the amount of money that I saw getting like I I knew I knew the pay

00:45:48.359 --> 00:45:57.160
grade I knew approximately the expenses I knew her pretty well and the amount of

00:45:53.400 --> 00:46:00.440
money that I saw her blowing on Hobby

00:45:57.160 --> 00:46:03.160
stuff I was sitting there going okay so

00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:11.079
you're constantly like asking for more money but I know that you waste it all

00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:13.280
on stupid crap so maybe if you stopped

00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:17.559
wasting it on stupid crap we wouldn't have this problem because you make a

00:46:15.160 --> 00:46:23.119
very fair living wage

00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:26.079
yeah speaking of a fair living wage 3.2

00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:29.559
billion apples reportedly considering buying Beats for 3.2 billion oh this has

00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:34.760
been updated since the last time I looked at it by Alex Goes high is

00:46:32.240 --> 00:46:39.839
apparently kind of confirmed so ah right yes I did hear

00:46:37.839 --> 00:46:43.599
about this so Dr Dre was caught up celebrating the deal in his Studio

00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:47.520
because he posted a video about said celebration on Facebook that has been

00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:52.480
deleted the Verge evidently saved it to their servers prior to the takedown so

00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:57.720
basically in the video Dr Dre describes himself as the first billionaire in hip

00:46:54.520 --> 00:46:59.720
hop and uh

00:46:57.720 --> 00:47:03.559
doesn't explicitly confirm the Apple acquisition but the the implication

00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:10.960
there is that the deal is basically already done so Apple would be acquiring

00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:12.599
not just like headphones which to me is

00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:16.839
less I mean yeah it's a huge business and all that but that's less of a big

00:47:14.680 --> 00:47:19.880
deal and probably if Apple decided to release their own Apple branded

00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:23.280
headphones they could crush Beats headphones if they really felt like it I

00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:28.480
mean the kinds of people who buy Beats headphones are probably going to also be interested in Apple headphones and quite

00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:31.280
frankly I have a lot more faith in apple than I do in beats when it comes to

00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.880
making a decent pair of headphones I'd assume it had really good build quality

00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:38.280
which I don't assume of Beats I I I don't even know but I just I don't

00:47:36.319 --> 00:47:42.680
assume they're they're nothing I've never bought a pair of Beats um so I

00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:46.200
forget where I was going with that what is your thing you said you have a very

00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:51.960
unpopular opinion about I'll get to that um so Apple will also be buying beats's

00:47:49.359 --> 00:47:55.839
streaming service so that is is a music streaming service that's actually um

00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.640
similar to something that Apple's been rumored to be developing so it would

00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:04.079
potentially work on Android devices so this could be a great way for Apple to

00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:07.559
get into the music streaming service I mean music is something that Apple's

00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:12.839
been very heavily into since the job's days and it could allow them to get a

00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:16.079
chunk of that pie on the Android side

00:48:12.839 --> 00:48:20.760
without like creating branding weirdness

00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:23.400
around you know iTunes for Android you

00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:27.040
know whatever they want to call it or or or or whatever that ends up turning into

00:48:25.319 --> 00:48:32.160
so I think that's actually more interesting it's funny to me that this

00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:38.079
is actually by far Apple's biggest acquisition um so it's the second

00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:40.280
biggest was actually next back in 1997

00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:43.920
when they brought Steve Jobs's next computer company back or Computing next

00:48:42.680 --> 00:48:48.559
I forget what it was called anyway when they brought next back into the fold and

00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:56.200
reacquired Steve Jobs so this is far bigger than that um Apple's more about

00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:57.559
the little strategic micro Acquisitions

00:48:56.200 --> 00:49:01.599
where they see like a really smart technology and and and buy them up

00:48:59.520 --> 00:49:06.160
before they get big so this is very uncharacteristic for them making like a

00:49:03.720 --> 00:49:10.040
power move like this it's interesting I I I see it kind of makes sense though

00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:15.000
because of how much they're already entwined yeah sort of I mean they sell

00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:19.079
Beats in the Apple store but I mean they also sell Cooler Master like aluminum

00:49:17.359 --> 00:49:22.240
phone stands in the store I yeah but I bet you in terms of Revenue beat spring

00:49:20.680 --> 00:49:28.440
is in a lot more than The Cooler Master aluminum stand you know what's baffling

00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:30.240
to me is how I manag to live in the kind

00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:35.760
of bubble that I live in like when we were trying to do the Hackintosh um

00:49:33.040 --> 00:49:40.200
build uh the the the guy we were working with Rampage Dev who's a Hackintosh

00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:44.799
developer really nice guy super nice guy we really like him cool guy um he was

00:49:42.359 --> 00:49:48.839
like oh yeah to create the the bootable USB drive just plug it into a Mac and do

00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:54.760
this I'm like I I don't have a Mac he's like then borrow one I'm like I don't

00:49:51.680 --> 00:49:56.880
know a single person who owns a Mac he's

00:49:54.760 --> 00:50:01.319
like what I'm like don't worry man I'll figure it

00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:05.760
out but I don't know a single person who owns a Mac I don't know a single person

00:50:03.160 --> 00:50:11.079
who owns Beat headphones did I say Beat Beats Beats

00:50:08.520 --> 00:50:15.960
headphones who someone who works here a while ago

00:50:14.319 --> 00:50:19.280
who I don't think he still has them do I have to hit him I don't think he still

00:50:17.359 --> 00:50:23.920
has I know he has monster turbines is it Brandon

00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:27.920
no it's not Ed is it

00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:29.720
no no

00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:33.920
he had them he had them a while ago I don't know if he still has them no we

00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:37.960
were making fun of people who own Beats headphones yeah and I was saying that

00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:43.520
you have Monster earbuds but those are actually fairly well well reputed so

00:50:40.200 --> 00:50:45.200
you're okay you're off the hook Brandon

00:50:43.520 --> 00:50:49.960
yeah he had the the like small ones that go on your ear oh really yeah oh

00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:55.040
headache so it's it was a while ago though when he got like an employee discount on them it's our new guy we are

00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:59.640
all ashamed of him I wouldn't have hired him if I'd known that that is that is a

00:50:57.160 --> 00:51:04.400
very sad very sad State of Affairs right right now imagine he posted that on the

00:51:01.240 --> 00:51:07.240
audio Forum so here's just get

00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:12.280
slaughtered here's what I will say about an Apple beats

00:51:09.240 --> 00:51:14.160
acquisition I would actually be pretty

00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:18.880
excited to see a product that came out of this

00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:22.480
Union that's what I'll say that's all I have to say about it guys I'm going to

00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:25.480
create a straw pole because Apple owns them would you be as know that would

00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:31.520
never happen I'm not even to I'm not even put that up I was going to say it was the other way around and I was like

00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:31.520
no there's no

00:51:34.160 --> 00:51:39.760
way I could have made that so you could have kept talking oh I don't really have

00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:44.680
anything else to say okay are we done with this topic then uh yeah I'm just

00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:47.960
going to um like basically I okay I guess I do have more to say so the

00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:53.599
reason that I would be excited about that is because beats I appreciate their

00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:59.000
style and I appreciate their marketing but what has always been lacking for me

00:51:56.160 --> 00:52:05.680
is the actual build quality and the actual exceptional of the product so

00:52:01.720 --> 00:52:08.440
anything good yeah um where and but what

00:52:05.680 --> 00:52:14.839
they're what they've been good at what they have been good at is increasing the

00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:16.200
demand for Quality Audio Solutions even

00:52:14.839 --> 00:52:20.599
because people were like wow this is bad I want to buy something better no no no

00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:25.160
no no no no no no like like commercials like the HP Envy commercial where they

00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:30.760
have Dr Dre with his stupid headphones on on an HP notebook and like talking

00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:36.760
about how better audio enriches The Experience because it does the problem

00:52:34.160 --> 00:52:40.920
is that beats never actually delivered the enriched audio experience but the

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:46.559
good thing they did was they made people aware of crappy audio and how much it

00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:51.480
sucks so what I would like to see apple do so here's my straw poll you guys uh

00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:56.640
what I would like to see apple do is actually build something with Beats

00:52:54.079 --> 00:53:02.000
branding that is good because hate on Apple all you want the iPhone 5S is an

00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:08.480
exceptional piece of hardware and even all even the Android Fanboys have to

00:53:05.040 --> 00:53:11.599
agree that what's great about the HTC1

00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:13.480
series The 1 M7 and the 1 M8 is that

00:53:11.599 --> 00:53:18.160
someone on the Android side finally rivaled Apple for build quality which

00:53:15.880 --> 00:53:22.559
would imply that we never had anything equivalent before they are quality built

00:53:20.319 --> 00:53:26.040
products they're fast Apple actually Engineers solutions that are good

00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:30.280
they're processors that they actually build M unlike pretty much everyone else

00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:35.839
with the exception of Samsung where they're just using an off-the-shelf processor Apple actually Engineers the

00:53:33.640 --> 00:53:40.480
crap out of things so if they engineered the crap out of a $300 pair of

00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:46.359
headphones I would expect to actually get $300 level build quality and $300

00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:50.760
level sound quality out of it that's what I would like to see there's you you

00:53:48.240 --> 00:53:56.839
can't possibly say that they don't make things well you can but it's just stupid

00:53:54.640 --> 00:53:59.960
that's all I have to say about that um okay I guess yeah you could technically

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:05.960
say it yeah you could say it but you're just completely wrong so there you go um

00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:10.839
do you want to do a topic sure uh there's a few left actually there's a

00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:15.720
lot left here I'm going to throw those straw pole results up there boom okay so

00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:21.520
one that I find really interesting because we've been talking about VR a lot lately and yep I'm going to talk

00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:24.640
about another Oculus Rift thing yeah baby is that the the biggest thing that

00:54:23.040 --> 00:54:29.359
we've both said is that it's not necessarily immersive in US yeah because

00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:32.480
not all your senses are engaged and that's what's really interesting about

00:54:30.680 --> 00:54:36.280
this I could engage your senses that wouldn't have to be VR oh

00:54:35.240 --> 00:54:40.040
god really is this the thing that you're

00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:44.119
going to do on the show no okay I don't know what you're talking about all right

00:54:41.839 --> 00:54:44.119
um

00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.440
so wow

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:56.079
anyways so a company a company called

00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:01.680
something birdley I think I'm a little bit distracted right now um has created

00:54:59.160 --> 00:55:06.599
this giant machine thing that they're quoting saying uh you do not control a

00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:10.799
machine you embody a bird the red kite which is a bird by the way um but

00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:15.880
honestly you're you're controlling a machine um but what's really interesting

00:55:13.480 --> 00:55:19.599
about it is that it engages your physical sense so you're liter you're

00:55:17.359 --> 00:55:24.359
laying flat up on this machine and then you have to Flap as if you're a bird

00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:29.200
like he's doing right there um and then it is putting smell into the environment

00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:32.440
so what you see on the Oculus Rift is pushed through towards you so if you're

00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:37.599
flying over a forest you'll smell a forest if you're flying over mud flats

00:55:34.720 --> 00:55:41.400
you'll smell mud whatever um and you can see that giant fan right in front of him

00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:45.160
that fan will change how fast it's spinning depending on how fast he's

00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:48.240
going in the game so if he starts going really quickly the fan will start

00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:52.599
spinning really quickly so you're getting um not necessarily accurate but

00:55:50.520 --> 00:55:56.880
you're getting representative wind speed towards your head and you're getting

00:55:55.079 --> 00:56:00.039
smell and you're getting vision from the oculus rift this is kind of the stuff

00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:05.079
that I'm talking about it's still not going to feel like you're actually a bird cuz you're laying on something kind

00:56:03.160 --> 00:56:09.520
of flapping around but it should be really interesting to be able to try

00:56:06.839 --> 00:56:16.440
they're saying that it has um aloric what is it called sorry what

00:56:13.640 --> 00:56:19.480
now alaic smell no I know but is that how you pronounce it I'm actually not

00:56:17.640 --> 00:56:24.680
sure alaic alaor I don't know olfaction either way

00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:28.520
Factory perception so so Factory perception is how how you smell things

00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:32.079
they have feedback on that they also have feedback based on uh which which is

00:56:30.720 --> 00:56:38.039
based on the location of the bird while you're flying I said if you fly over forest all that kind of stuff um and

00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:42.640
then it has wind speed and actually physically

00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:48.520
flapping no you can have that banana on your

00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:50.039
shirt I don't want that in my hand um

00:56:48.520 --> 00:56:54.240
cool though because this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes

00:56:52.200 --> 00:56:57.920
to exciting things that we're going to be able to do with VR yeah and like this

00:56:56.359 --> 00:57:03.680
maybe isn't the most realistic thing for something that everyone's going to have in their house yeah it's like it's like

00:57:01.400 --> 00:57:08.559
if if we had conversations before about how I was like yeah Omni is cool but

00:57:06.319 --> 00:57:13.839
like I wouldn't find room for it in my house like yeah I'm going to have like a

00:57:11.359 --> 00:57:19.240
dedicated like you know quarter of a room for like my bird simulator machine

00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:24.079
and my goat simulator machine and my Farmer simulator machines like it's

00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:28.000
going to turn you know what gaming is going back to Arcade size machine

00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:31.640
they're going to they should get it to the point where there's one and it's like a Transformer you tell it what game

00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:36.559
you want to play and it just like changes itself that would be amazing

00:57:34.799 --> 00:57:39.359
somebody Kickstart that I'm not going to give you my money cuz I know you can't

00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:44.520
build it I was just going to say don't Kickstart it cuz you will never be

00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:46.000
successful it won't work but I like how

00:57:44.520 --> 00:57:49.920
you think does yeah exactly but yeah yeah I I hope they have

00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:52.559
this kind of stuff at like Science World yeah that would be cool or or different

00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:59.720
things like that so you can actually try Tellis world of science oh whatever can

00:57:55.839 --> 00:58:02.640
you believe that like it's like Telos

00:57:59.720 --> 00:58:06.480
you know can can you is is there another way that you could demonstrate that you

00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:11.240
have too much money tell us world of science Roger Arena yeah like no oh no

00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:16.200
no no no tell no Science World goes beyond that so sponsoring Arenas that's

00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:20.599
one thing that's that's like yeah we don't know what to do here's all the

00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:26.200
money to name your Arena whatever it is uh tell us world the science they bought

00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:30.000
it they own it what yeah so science

00:58:26.200 --> 00:58:31.960
world is uh is a dome in Vancouver it's

00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.400
really cool it's actually fantastic world after dark is like one of the

00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:38.079
coolest things great place to take the kids great place to even go on a date

00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:43.240
like they just have cool exhibits that are sciency and like Puzzles you can do

00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:46.920
and I've done it before mle times me too um so science world's fantastic so tell

00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:50.319
us act they were running out of money because it was publicly funded and you

00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:54.599
know it's like anything cool not enough people go because everyone's too busy

00:58:52.079 --> 00:59:00.280
playing video games um so I've been like five six

00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:05.960
times so tell us one of our local Telos just bought the thing like okay whatever

00:59:03.640 --> 00:59:09.599
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actually not I just I finally got why the banana exists I was like this is

00:59:19.720 --> 00:59:25.119
weird and I I knew it was here like it it was prepped to be here and like if

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you wanted to eat the freaking banana you could eaten it before the so Dollar Shave Club sent us a second package

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because you can see that between me wasting all of our shave butter I

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actually really wish I hadn't wasted it it smells really nice and it's like kind

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of nice to use so between me wasting all of our shave butter Taran stealing one

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of the razor handles and someone else taking off with a pack of blades I'm not

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:53.720
even sure um they're not they're not in the Box anymore that was yeah maybe he

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asked you did he well I wasn't paying attention so Dollar Shave Club sent us a

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the Canadian site right now cuz I'm Canadian and it automatically redirects

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me but in the US the prices are actually slightly cheaper all they have to really

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and dealing with you know fighting someone to open up the stupid

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compartment that contains the razor and going and getting the key I mean I don't

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know when the last time you tried to get service at a grocery store was but um

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there's nobody there sorry I don't think I've ever actually try to get service at

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a grocery store in theory they have people like in the Cosmetics department

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where normally you would find um the Cosmetics Department I've seen people

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yeah so you can usually go get one of them to come and help you with the

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shaving supplies but like see this is the fact that I can

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tell this story at at all addresses why

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the need for something like Dollar Shave Club exists where they deal with it for

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were to sugarcoat something that you wipe your butt with that granulation is

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not going to be cool

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in terms of Effectiveness when you're trying to you know gather up the troops

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so to speak and have them not smell when

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you're sitting next to people smell you know

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what my job isn't as easy as you might think it is I do it sometimes I know

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to say about that and are you really going to do this to

01:02:37.160 --> 01:02:44.279
me wow go along with your integration

01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:46.839
lus all right so thank you ASUS for

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sponsoring the WAN Show we are proudly using the ASUS g750 JZ gaming notebook

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for all of our wow needs and actually

01:02:54.799 --> 01:03:00.079
needs that go beyond the show since you messed up my last integration why don't

01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:05.400
you go ahead and talk about why you took the g750 JZ which happens to belong to

01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:09.839
the company on on a personal trip with you what was exactly the point of that

01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:15.880
well the the point was that I had to test out a Tegra Note so I had a phone I

01:03:13.520 --> 01:03:19.960
had a Tegra Note and I had a laptop and part of my idea was if I needed to do

01:03:17.640 --> 01:03:26.440
something what did I go to grab so I needed a laptop that being said I I

01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:29.520
might own one um so basically decided

01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:32.319
like oh well this one's pretty badass so

01:03:29.520 --> 01:03:35.640
even though I have my own laptop that I just I haven't even seen that in a while

01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:39.640
have you just junked it and just no I was using it for Network diagnosis okay

01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:43.359
so you haven't just completely claimed this at this point although you

01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:46.640
basically tried to you know what's funny is when we first found out we were

01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:50.440
getting these he didn't even know what the specs of the ones we were getting

01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:54.359
were like no idea I'm just like yeah we're getting new ASUS gaming notebooks

01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:57.520
and he's like oh uh we're getting them for Wow and I'm like yeah it's like oh

01:03:56.240 --> 01:04:02.720
well when we're done with wano I can replace my desktop with it right I'm

01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:04.160
like a it was a gaming level notebook I

01:04:02.720 --> 01:04:08.760
knew it was going to be faster than the desktop that I have which like I'm happy

01:04:06.240 --> 01:04:17.160
if it doesn't CR it's not even that bad it's got a quad core yeah but like oh

01:04:12.359 --> 01:04:19.319
man crashes the point of the g750 JZ

01:04:17.160 --> 01:04:22.599
it's not the lightest thing ever okay it's a little bit on the thicker side

01:04:21.200 --> 01:04:27.559
it's a little bit on the heavier side it's not an Ultra Book but the point of

01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:31.160
it is that it Del delivers pretty near a desktop grade experience out of a

01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:35.880
notebook something that is actually portable and you know what I've actually observed like I've been running on

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:42.559
battery for the entire show here and compared to my Dell my XPS which ran out

01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:44.640
of battery in 2 hours and 55 minutes or

01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:48.599
something today I'm sitting with like 3 hours left of battery even though we've

01:04:46.200 --> 01:04:53.640
been streaming for over an hour now and I've been using it without with battery

01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:55.319
before the show so I mean I I like that

01:04:53.640 --> 01:04:59.039
the thing I like about a large notebook is that can go ahead and put a big old

01:04:57.160 --> 01:05:02.640
battery in it and the fact that the GPU is not even on when you're just doing

01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:06.520
basic things with it means that you don't actually deal with that power loss

01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:10.279
you know that right yeah I know but there's still technically it's a little

01:05:08.359 --> 01:05:16.119
bit it's not much these days it's not much I forget what the features Optimus

01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.520
right that's awward I was like oh yeah I

01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:21.160
don't remember what that's called anymore but the point is that it comes

01:05:19.160 --> 01:05:27.039
with a gtx8 ADM which is about equivalent to a GTX 770 desktop GPU and

01:05:23.799 --> 01:05:28.400
it comes with a COR i7 4700 HQ which is

01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:33.640
actually not really equivalent to anything um Intel's desktop CPUs are

01:05:31.160 --> 01:05:37.680
faster but still in our testing we found that it kept up you know running

01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:41.799
BioShock Infinite on Ultra Battlefield 4 all that stuff with a pretty reasonable

01:05:39.240 --> 01:05:46.480
gaming desktop so that's all we have to say about that thank you Dollar Shave

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Club thank you for thank you ASUS for sponsoring the show remember guys if you

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want to join the club and get a great shave not like you you've just stopped

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shaving entirely haven't you well my Dollar Shave Club Razer had to be like

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borrowed for an integration and stuff and then oh that's why cuz I was saying

01:06:01.319 --> 01:06:08.359
because I knew at least two of them were missing and I was like oh one of the handles is back ew it has like stuff on

01:06:06.520 --> 01:06:12.319
it is that you and then I probably don't really want it back okay well I'll I'll

01:06:10.160 --> 01:06:17.000
give you one back again cuz cuz I I specifically asked them for a new one

01:06:14.200 --> 01:06:20.160
for new to a birthday party on Saturday night so I'm going to have to grind my

01:06:18.520 --> 01:06:25.680
face with my no take the take the razor jeez you're

01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:30.400
killing me here anyway guys you can sign at dollarshaveclub.com and for the g750 JZ

01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.279
I think you guys know where to buy notebooks there are lots of places to

01:06:32.520 --> 01:06:40.680
buy notebooks like um the notebook.com is

01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:44.440
that no that's probably not a thing I actually don't know that's probably for

01:06:41.920 --> 01:06:48.000
the movie yeah I would think so let's see all right so we're going to go ahead

01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:52.799
and have a look at whether people would be excited to see an apple SL beats

01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:58.400
codeveloped product the uh overwhelming majority of you say no or maybe and the

01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:03.920
that's a pretty flat vote the underwhelming minority of you say yes

01:07:01.160 --> 01:07:09.680
but then yeah so for most of you zero cares were given okay I get it but I

01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:13.799
will objectively evaluate anything that comes out of that partnership before

01:07:11.799 --> 01:07:16.799
before the show was on he asked me about it and I said I I just can't really

01:07:15.160 --> 01:07:19.880
bring myself to care very much and he's like well you should probably blah blah

01:07:18.520 --> 01:07:24.079
blah blah blah and I was like yeah but it's from two companies that I'm not

01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:28.200
ever going to buy anything from you will never buy anything from Apple

01:07:26.279 --> 01:07:33.760
probably not what if the eyewatch is fantastic but then I'd have to get that

01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:36.400
whole ecosystem that's how Apple Works

01:07:33.760 --> 01:07:40.279
really yeah it would have to be really legendary what if the iPhone 6 is

01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:43.799
fantastic it could be but if you look at the trending every single time that jobs

01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:49.960
goes away every single he went away once

01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:51.680
twice well he died yeah really that's

01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:58.480
twice you're going to bring up Jobs's death I tried to do it lightly I

01:07:55.960 --> 01:08:05.720
I tried to do it really lightly actually just didn't work at all all

01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:07.520
right so semanex VP says antivirus is

01:08:05.720 --> 01:08:13.039
dead this was posted on the Forum by nice hat along with some very amusing

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pictures this one's fantastic if you guys can't read it it's an anonymous

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Facebook post my computer's being really slow I forgot it had a virus I'm just

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going to shut it down and stop using it until it goes away text me and then it's

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just like the most appropriate use of this guy

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that I think I have ever seen yeah probably me too that's a really good

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picture that's fantastic and you know the it would it would be funnier if uh

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if we didn't know people like that oh yeah yeah but I think we all do

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so what's your take on this is antii well okay first of all we should

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probably so basically uh what Brian Dy says so this a senior VI senior VP of

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information securi we don't think of antivirus as a money maker anymore and

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that he points out that hackers are increasingly increasingly using novel

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bugs as ways to gain control of a system

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or um gain information or whatever else it is that they're trying to do as

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opposed to straight up computer viruses

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and Mr D estimates that antivirus now catches just 45% of cyber attacks I mean

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we've known for quite some time that spyware or adwar were actually larger

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issues than traditional viruses but I I

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guess I've just never heard it from someone at a company like sanch there's

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another thing though like one I think one of the big problems here is where he

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actually says we don't see it as a money maker in any way and I think that stands

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out more than anything because almost everyone I know in the tech industry not

01:09:43.080 --> 01:09:50.719
everyone but almost everyone I know in the tech industry is running a combination of antivirus software the

01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:56.360
same one almost everybody they run Windows stock I don't even remember

01:09:52.799 --> 01:09:58.440
Windows whatever Windows not Defender

01:09:56.360 --> 01:10:01.440
Security Essentials whatever Microsoft Security Essentials MSE there we go

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Microsoft Security Essentials for Passive scanning of viruses because

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there's a big difference between when it's just running constantly looking for

01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:11.400
things and when you manually run it huge difference so I see most people that I

01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:14.960
know are running that for kind of passive scanning and then once every one

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:22.280
once in a while this is a really good idea for a straw pole once every once in a while they will download and run mbam

01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:25.920
or malware bites and then run it for its active scan the manual one remove

01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:31.199
everything that it catch and then just uninstall it none of that

01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:32.679
costs any money and the majority of

01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:37.480
people that I know that even run antiviruses are doing that combo or just

01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:41.800
MSE Microsoft Security Essentials not even the mbam once in a while um so I

01:10:40.719 --> 01:10:49.480
can totally see where they're talking about it not being a money maker um I'm surprised they're taking

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the stance they are we going like with

01:10:49.480 --> 01:10:55.520
the fake data and all that kind of stuff considering that already exists with

01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:59.840
honey pots like I don't see them propos anything that's really new these are all

01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:04.560
things that already exist so I find that a little bit interesting um and I I

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don't think antivirus is unimportant I think it might be unimportant to certain

01:11:05.920 --> 01:11:10.400
people yeah for the random Average Joe it's probably fine if you just pay

01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:13.440
attention to what you're searching you don't click on anything super stupid

01:11:12.320 --> 01:11:19.080
maybe you've been around on the internet for a really long time and you're really good at identifying download now buttons

01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:21.360
at this point and you can read the URL at the bottom of your browser when

01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:25.920
you're highlighting buttons to make sure you're not going to some ad and you're actually downloading what you want um

01:11:24.440 --> 01:11:30.080
and stuff like that you're good with that and you kind of either run MSE or

01:11:27.920 --> 01:11:33.640
nothing and that's fine you're probably okay but at the corporate level I think

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it still really matters um when if someone gets into your network and

01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:41.760
deletes everything on your server it's catastrophic um I've done it work for

01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:46.679
some law firms way back in the day I don't do it anymore um but it was I

01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:51.040
thought you still did I do but I'm kind of just like outside support right okay

01:11:49.480 --> 01:11:54.600
and like if they have a question they'll email me but everything's automated now

01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:58.480
that I don't I used to go in there all the time because it was more like I was

01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:02.159
taking over for someone else so I had to do a lot of stuff right and now it's

01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:06.760
more just like if they have a problem they'll call me in and every once in a while like every few months I'll go in

01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:11.760
for a while and like make sure everything's good like I'll go in for a whole Saturday right but it's not super

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common anymore so sorry you were talking about how you were doing that yeah so

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that the them huge really big deal they

01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:22.159
do a thing where I have it where one of their employees that somewhat techsavvy

01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:26.159
walks in and plugs in a cable once every week and it does a big backup to a

01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:30.520
computer plug in one cable unplugs another cable so it does a big backup to

01:12:28.320 --> 01:12:34.159
an offline server that's almost always offline so it's it could still get

01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:37.760
infected because you are plugging into a computer that is normally online right

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but it's probably not going to happen to the point where everything's going to be deleted right or if it is they have two

01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:46.360
servers and like they're they're both running different operating systems like

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there's there's a bunch of layers of security that's a really big deal

01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:53.920
because if they lose everything they're screwed right they also have offsite

01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:57.080
backups they have like multiple layers of security so that to be able to take

01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:03.000
them down you'd have to take down an off-site backup that's in the states two

01:12:59.480 --> 01:13:05.040
things onsite like Dropbox style not

01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:08.400
actually Dropbox but drop stop Dropbox style backups like all this kind of

01:13:06.600 --> 01:13:12.520
stuff it's not going to happen that's important um and then they run antivirus

01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:17.960
all over the place because it's important because their data is super important right is someone being able to

01:13:16.120 --> 01:13:22.840
see that I have 800 hours on mowind super important probably not right okay

01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:28.320
so I think it depends who you are well it looks like actually our our users are

01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:33.719
pretty um pretty pretty safe they practice safe safe internet browsing so

01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:38.960
30% of you are using realtime scanning and doing periodic cleanups with three

01:13:36.440 --> 01:13:43.000
uh 12% of you doing periodic cleanups only about the same number doing

01:13:40.440 --> 01:13:47.880
real-time scanning only and about 11% of you using no antivirus with the majority

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of the respondents or at least more than any of the other replies uh asking me to

01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:55.560
eat more banan it was hot um

01:13:53.400 --> 01:14:01.520
unfortunately since a banan isn't a real thing I really can't do that so I I well

01:13:58.719 --> 01:14:05.199
I appreciate the uh I appreciate the the thought though that was great you guys

01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:13.840
are great okay so Intel's Sky Lake there

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have been some leaked documental mations

01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:22.600
this was posted on the Forum by querty Warrior the original article is from

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Tech PowerUp and um basically it's 100

01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:29.880
series it's going to be coming with DDR4 support it's going to be 14 nanm

01:14:27.679 --> 01:14:35.400
processors and it's going to feature Alpine Ridge Thunderbolt running at 40

01:14:32.560 --> 01:14:38.920
gbit per second man that's fast I'm kind of

01:14:37.480 --> 01:14:43.679
surprised they're jumping into 100 series I see a lot of companies when

01:14:41.159 --> 01:14:48.159
when they get to the top they just reset I'm okay with that yeah I don't

01:14:46.280 --> 01:14:51.719
really mind it's just I'm I'm saying I'm just kind of surprised I mean AMD

01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:57.600
switched over to an X but then Intel already has X whatever so yeah yeah what

01:14:55.920 --> 01:15:03.400
you going to do painted yourselves into that corner didn't you so basically

01:15:00.440 --> 01:15:07.880
compared to uh compared to uh Haswell Haswell refresh and Broadwell and to be

01:15:05.440 --> 01:15:14.159
clear guys Haswell refresh is not a significant change over Haswell it's

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just like slightly faster um sat Express

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has been added uh if you if you take the

01:15:17.280 --> 01:15:25.320
the the heat sink off of a z97 board it says Z87 rev 2 on it like it's not a big

01:15:22.920 --> 01:15:30.560
deal but uh Broadwell is going to be a small generational change or uh rather

01:15:29.280 --> 01:15:36.600
rather that'll be a significant generational change in terms of the manufacturing process and then beyond

01:15:34.400 --> 01:15:41.159
that that's when we're getting a new architecture so that'll be Sky Lake and

01:15:38.760 --> 01:15:44.960
that's coming in 2015 I'm actually curious to see when Broadwell is going

01:15:42.719 --> 01:15:49.639
to arrive I guess that could be coming very soon then huh I don't know Intel

01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:54.520
doesn't really tell me anything they just sort of like stuff arrives and I'm

01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:58.199
like Yay cool um let's let's like let's like check it out so it's going to have

01:15:56.360 --> 01:16:01.480
a whole bunch of really cool stuff so they're going to have much improved

01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:06.920
Wireless they're going to have much improved Thunderbolt and they are also

01:16:04.320 --> 01:16:12.280
going to have hopefully much improved CPUs so this whole road map has been

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leaked I guess that's really all I have to say about that isn't it yeah there's

01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:22.280
there honestly there isn't a ton of information right now yeah so yeah take

01:16:20.440 --> 01:16:27.520
that and do whatever you want 2015 is exciting you know yeah even if it's late

01:16:24.960 --> 01:16:33.080
2015 I guess if we got like a very late 2014 Broadwell then a late 2015 Skylight

01:16:31.080 --> 01:16:36.600
could make sense yep and that's uh that's actually pretty in line with some

01:16:34.639 --> 01:16:40.199
of the estimates we saw on that Thunderbolt 40 gbit per second article

01:16:38.760 --> 01:16:44.199
that came out a little while ago oh that makes sense yeah so the timing is

01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:47.560
probably about right now I I think we should straw pull this because something

01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:51.760
that you talked about before the show uh that had to do with kitaku the next

01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:57.639
article you're doing I want to see why people care or maybe uh Twitter Blitz

01:16:54.440 --> 01:16:59.520
Twitter yeah okay so um there there was

01:16:57.639 --> 01:17:04.760
a so this was posted on the Forum by top war gamer thank you very much for that

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CEO Bobby KK has revealed that

01:17:04.760 --> 01:17:10.719
Activision is spending 500 million to

01:17:08.320 --> 01:17:14.960
try and make Destiny a hit that's half a billion which is a little less than

01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:20.600
double the unprecedented over quarter billion

01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:25.480
dollars that Rockstar paid to get GTA 5 made um there I saw quite a few people

01:17:23.639 --> 01:17:31.320
attacking the article saying that because it's on Kotaku it's therefore uh

01:17:28.679 --> 01:17:35.719
completely not credible and completely stupid but I would like to hear from I

01:17:33.480 --> 01:17:40.360
would like to hear from our our users maybe uh I'll create a straw pull here

01:17:37.560 --> 01:17:45.040
pretty quick here guys and then uh is Kotaku because

01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:48.239
honestly a lot of the stuff I've read on there like no one's right 100% of the

01:17:46.719 --> 01:17:53.280
time but a lot of the stuff I've read on there has turned out to be perfectly

01:17:50.040 --> 01:17:55.199
fine I I I have no idea it's possible

01:17:53.280 --> 01:18:00.239
that we missed something yeah that's totally possible like was there a huge

01:17:57.360 --> 01:18:04.639
controversy like that whole I don't know uh what was it LA Times Tesla review

01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:08.880
thing I think it was the LA Times Tesla review Washington Post talking about

01:18:06.199 --> 01:18:12.080
Oculus Washington Post Tesla review well uh I'm not sure there was someone I

01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:19.040
think it might have been more than one group actually for Tesla uh all New York Times sorry it was

01:18:17.040 --> 01:18:23.080
New York Times uh they eventually apologized for that and all that noise

01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:27.679
so so maybe they maybe Kotaku has done some stuff that neither of us is aware

01:18:24.639 --> 01:18:31.639
of of yeah for sure yes

01:18:27.679 --> 01:18:31.639
no what's

01:18:35.719 --> 01:18:42.800
Kotaku okay so I'm going to go ahead and allow multiple choices if you're going

01:18:39.679 --> 01:18:44.960
to have that on the poll no people have

01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:49.520
to pick one it's just going to be skewed now can you imagine if like political

01:18:47.080 --> 01:18:53.880
elections had multiple choices I would actually be more incentivized to vote me

01:18:52.480 --> 01:18:58.120
too actually cuz if I could just say I don't care have multiple choices they

01:18:56.679 --> 01:19:01.880
should have multiple choices cuz you could be like I don't care but these

01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:06.280
ones like any one of these ones is okay because then you wouldn't have to worry

01:19:03.040 --> 01:19:07.639
about the vote getting split between and

01:19:06.280 --> 01:19:11.639
then that would probably help the whole two- party system thing anyways we probably shouldn't talk about politics

01:19:10.679 --> 01:19:16.679
yeah we probably shouldn't talk about politics I'm sure there's a good reason that uh we don't allow multiple

01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:24.080
choice yeah I actually can't think of one but maybe it's because like the the

01:19:21.560 --> 01:19:29.159
real flaw in a multiple choice test for example is that someone can just guess

01:19:26.639 --> 01:19:32.920
and still get a passing grade whereas on a political on an election ballot

01:19:31.080 --> 01:19:37.800
there's no right answer so it's inherently flawed multiple

01:19:35.679 --> 01:19:42.880
choice doesn't address that by giving us the possibility to get it right maybe

01:19:40.080 --> 01:19:47.239
that's the issue what I'm just I'm just Mak it's like that doesn't make any

01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:55.719
sense there's no it's called W show not

01:19:53.719 --> 01:20:00.080
not W's show weekly analysis news and

01:20:00.639 --> 01:20:06.960
sense I think with analysis people kind of assume that there's going to be some

01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:11.320
amount of sense they could but they'd be I mean look at they're voting for

01:20:09.080 --> 01:20:15.159
bananas that's because you didn't put multiple choice on this poll I don't

01:20:13.639 --> 01:20:18.360
have and you put a question I don't have to put anything on my PO you put a

01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:21.760
question mark I don't have to put anything on my poll that I don't want

01:20:22.520 --> 01:20:27.199
to wow let me make the

01:20:28.440 --> 01:20:34.280
polls are you making a poll right now

01:20:32.040 --> 01:20:43.679
maybe no one will know they can't see my screen or what's behind my

01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:45.360
screen this show is the best this show

01:20:43.679 --> 01:20:49.639
speaking of things that are the best this is

01:20:46.719 --> 01:20:55.320
fantastic fantastic posted on the Forum originally by uh

01:20:53.120 --> 01:21:00.040
L3 MO black Moses that makes more sense post

01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:06.639
originally on the Forum by black Moses the smartest protest ever what do we got

01:21:04.440 --> 01:21:12.199
the smartest protest ever yeah am I in the wrong section right now no

01:21:09.679 --> 01:21:16.360
no fast L subscribers I thought we were in a different thing we're talking about

01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:20.360
net neutrality yeah but there's a total okay anyways there's two topics about

01:21:18.120 --> 01:21:22.960
net neutrality I thought you entered that one I thought you talking about

01:21:21.320 --> 01:21:26.040
this one yeah that is the one I was talking about where did that go oh that

01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:32.480
looked at the wrong article that's why I was like what okay this makes more sense

01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:37.480
okay so back to this okay go okay so what they're doing is well this web host

01:21:35.080 --> 01:21:40.280
and I think I think there's now a GitHub that has the code for it so other people

01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:44.800
can implement it and all this kind of stuff um but what they're doing is they're making it so that different IPS

01:21:43.320 --> 01:21:52.360
that access their website that are from the FCC are getting incredibly slow

01:21:48.400 --> 01:21:55.040
traffic so like 28.8 dial up not even

01:21:52.360 --> 01:21:58.920
the fastest dialup that we had like dial up yeah so like if you try if FCC tries

01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:02.880
to access their website it'll go that slow um I think it's kind of cool and

01:22:01.360 --> 01:22:06.560
it's clever but I don't think it's going to matter unless like Google does it

01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:12.440
it's well it's not going to matter unless Google does it but it's not really the point the point is I I get it

01:22:10.360 --> 01:22:16.000
and it's cool and it it does drive a point and it's very interesting so it's

01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:20.719
it's the we've got the feni plan or fangi I can never remember I'm not a

01:22:18.080 --> 01:22:26.600
Star Trek guy the feni plan is a special FCC only internet plan that costs $1,000

01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:30.320
per year and removes the 28.8 kilobit per second modem throttle to the FCC we

01:22:28.719 --> 01:22:34.639
will happily take credit cards Bitcoin Dogecoin and Dogecoin from crooked FCC

01:22:33.239 --> 01:22:39.440
Executives that probably have plenty of money from bribes on our donations page

01:22:36.440 --> 01:22:41.080
sorry we don't accept ltin them yet so

01:22:39.440 --> 01:22:46.199
obviously the whole thing is just purely a joke but the point is that net

01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:52.520
neutrality is important because it will prevent situations where an ISP can hold

01:22:50.040 --> 01:22:55.040
your internet connection or your the speed with which you can connect to

01:22:53.960 --> 01:23:02.440
certain Serv Ransom unless you're willing to pay them more money for it and the problem with

01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:07.120
with them holding let's say let's say I'm I'm Luke's internet service provider

01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:12.480
and I go you know what Luke I probably don't like you we live in Canada you all

01:23:09.280 --> 01:23:14.159
suck well whatever man you're stuck here

01:23:12.480 --> 01:23:19.120
what are you g to do leave leave Canada Canada's Great for all kinds of other reasons you can deal with crappy

01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:22.600
internet okay so look dude you play a lot of games you watch a lot of twitch

01:23:20.639 --> 01:23:26.920
streams twitch streams man they use a lot of bandwidth that means we got to go

01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:30.080
buy like switches and crap and like you know those switches are really expensive

01:23:29.040 --> 01:23:34.800
look don't worry about that those switches are really expensive so we need

01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:37.920
you to give us some money to you know justify buy another football stadium

01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:41.800
because you're because you're a heavy user okay you're putting more of a load

01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:47.199
call Fat you're putting more of a load on our system that's a fat joke than the

01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:51.320
other users okay so the problem is that then Mr ISP gets to extract a bunch of

01:23:49.719 --> 01:23:55.199
money from him because you go okay look if you want to access twitch fast we can

01:23:53.719 --> 01:23:58.800
give you like a fast lane for that because otherwise in the background I

01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:03.679
could be slowing down as twitch stream and we see this all the time you can go

01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:06.560
do a speed test tomorrow and it'll have like a great speed and then you go and

01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:10.560
try to load a YouTube video or watch a movie on Netflix and you've got this

01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:14.159
degraded internet experience so I'm I'm I'm telling Mr user I'm like look okay

01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:17.560
yeah you want fast twitch yeah sure no problem man just give us a couple more

01:24:15.440 --> 01:24:20.800
bucks and then I'm going to turn around and I'm going to tell twitch hey you

01:24:19.440 --> 01:24:23.840
guys are putting a bunch of load on our network with all of our users

01:24:22.440 --> 01:24:28.600
downloading your streams you got to give us money to and so all of a sudden we

01:24:26.719 --> 01:24:32.520
create this situation where the isps can double dip and just take additional

01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:35.880
money to build infrastructure that they should have built in the first place

01:24:34.520 --> 01:24:40.920
which they got paid to build in the first place if you're in the states and

01:24:37.560 --> 01:24:43.040
two which they don't need they're so

01:24:40.920 --> 01:24:46.840
baller when when it's at the point where like the only people that are buying

01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:51.840
these stupid Investments which is putting your name in front of a sports

01:24:48.480 --> 01:24:54.600
Stadium they're all isps or like cell

01:24:51.840 --> 01:24:59.600
providers are you kidding me it's because they're just rolling in money

01:24:56.520 --> 01:25:02.440
it's super dumb they don't need any more

01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:05.639
money anyways I do like the protest though I think it's pretty cool I think

01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:12.040
it's fantastic I think it really makes a point to people who maybe just don't

01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:16.560
care enough maybe they just don't care enough to to look into it like I mean

01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:22.639
you know what let's all be honest with ourselves do you do 100% the best job

01:25:20.480 --> 01:25:28.840
you possibly can at work every day do you do 100% of the due diligence

01:25:26.639 --> 01:25:31.600
maybe a few of you do some of you this is a really awkward position for me

01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:36.159
right now probably don't I'm not asking you the point I'm not even creating a

01:25:33.920 --> 01:25:40.320
poll for this I'm just I'm just asking you guys to ask yourselves you know do

01:25:38.080 --> 01:25:46.360
you do whether your job is to dig ditches or to cook food or to serve food

01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:50.159
or to make internet videos or to drive a truck or whatever your job is there's

01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:56.480
the thousands and thousands of jobs do you do it the best every day maybe not

01:25:54.000 --> 01:26:00.199
so maybe maybe what we're what we just need to do is we need to wake up someone

01:25:58.400 --> 01:26:04.360
who's been asleep at the wheel a little bit and go hey can you create some Havoc

01:26:02.679 --> 01:26:09.920
internally over there and like get some attention around this and this is the kind of protest that's does more than

01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:14.639
just create noise because emails are easy to ignore Facebook polls or

01:26:12.719 --> 01:26:19.000
protests or whatever you just ignore that crap because it's just stupid it's

01:26:16.679 --> 01:26:23.600
not relevant whereas when someone goes to access the internet and it's slow and

01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:27.199
they go oh why is it slow you're starting the

01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:30.960
the the inquisitive process I was going to say Inquisition that's not right

01:26:29.440 --> 01:26:35.719
you're starting the inquisitive process you're getting them wondering what's going on and once they understand what's

01:26:34.040 --> 01:26:41.400
going on hey well someone's slowing down my internet why are they doing that my internet should be fast right and then

01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:44.159
we can hope that the light bulb turns on so I really I thought this was a really

01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:49.000
effective way to get that point across and I hope it works yeah I know it is really cool

01:26:46.400 --> 01:26:54.199
actually um oh I wasn't even aware of this this is interesting uh there's

01:26:51.080 --> 01:26:57.360
apparently some new graphics card coming

01:26:54.199 --> 01:27:00.199
power color oh yeah has a new Devil 13

01:26:57.360 --> 01:27:03.679
this one has um no it's post by brown ninja so I'm sure it'll be in the post

01:27:01.719 --> 01:27:08.320
somewhere um but it has like the Nemo fin thing where the fan has the little

01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:13.119
fins in there is this that one let's go see yeah see the little tiny pins on the

01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:16.400
inside it also has four eight pin power connections four eight pin you'll see if

01:27:15.080 --> 01:27:21.760
you keep on going down there's the yeah I knew it'd be in here somewhere there

01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:24.639
boom look at that

01:27:21.760 --> 01:27:30.040
boom it's just a monstrous card so they ditched the whole AO idea air cooled air

01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:34.679
cooled rather wow four eight pins triple slot four eight pins what the heck the

01:27:32.360 --> 01:27:38.480
thing is ridiculous only three of those four are required so if you want a

01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:43.760
little bit of extra overclocking Headroom you can plug in the

01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:45.679
fourth and wow look at the back plate I

01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:52.520
like it it's actually pretty cool yeah looks badass yeah double 13

01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:57.280
huh someone in the comments somewhere on here I don't remember where it was was

01:27:54.280 --> 01:28:01.440
like so one eight pin for the GPU and

01:27:57.280 --> 01:28:03.639
then one for each fan for

01:28:01.440 --> 01:28:06.920
each can't remember exactly how he said it but it was awesome them Nemo fans

01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:11.719
when you got little fins like that you got to like work it takes a full eight

01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:15.920
pin for each one of those fans guys yeah get it right geez yeah that's kind

01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:20.600
of awesome should we jump into build logs um yeah sure I think that's pretty

01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:24.119
much it I think I'm I'm pretty much done for the week so here we go we have

01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:29.360
something really special after build vogs guys so do we yeah we do do I know

01:28:27.560 --> 01:28:33.719
about it I told you before the show that doesn't mean I

01:28:30.719 --> 01:28:36.520
know so the first one is oh do I have

01:28:33.719 --> 01:28:42.719
office on here I hope so I hope so too it looks fine oh I have some kind of

01:28:39.639 --> 01:28:44.040
office oh I want to try it for a limited

01:28:42.719 --> 01:28:51.000
time oh

01:28:46.719 --> 01:28:53.639
no not good it looks fine though I think

01:28:51.000 --> 01:29:00.960
wow all the tabs no one can see what's going on hey everyone hey guys sorry

01:28:57.159 --> 01:29:04.800
where did it go it's here wow I'm

01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:07.800
tired there we go well it looks

01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:09.600
okay view either way every single time

01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:12.199
we do the build logs every single build log I talk about I'm like you should

01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:17.480
probably just go check it out the Forum so you can see everything so do that again check out these guys full build

01:29:15.719 --> 01:29:21.760
logs where they have tons of pictures you can see everything about you can go to the voting thread and see everyone

01:29:20.040 --> 01:29:26.440
who submitted there's some guys that submitted that had really nice builds

01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:28.920
um the thing with having build logs per the week is there isn't enough and the

01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:32.320
thing with having build logs per the month is there's a lot of really awesome

01:29:31.080 --> 01:29:35.960
ones and they don't all get through so be sure to check out the voting thread

01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:42.280
because you can see everything this build is super clean the hard tubing

01:29:39.639 --> 01:29:46.400
really really popular thing lately and I'm okay with that that looks fantastic

01:29:45.239 --> 01:29:51.440
yeah very cool absolutely beautiful but I while

01:29:49.679 --> 01:29:55.520
while this one is really nice and very clean I personally appreciate the next

01:29:53.440 --> 01:30:00.800
one a little bit more more you know I haven't seen many great builds in the

01:29:58.520 --> 01:30:03.719
900d now that I think about it it's like yeah it's big and it's like liquid

01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:07.320
cooling optimized but it almost seems like Corsair took the challenge out of

01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:11.760
it a little bit for people by making it too easy to do a great buildin so I

01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:15.920
think a lot of people were turned off by that that's just my perception it's also

01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:21.719
extremely big and really heavy yeah but uh this one this one's bad do the call

01:30:19.360 --> 01:30:27.480
thing oh sorry sorry sorry so this one is Portal Cube by

01:30:25.719 --> 01:30:32.000
I don't know look at that that's fantastic it looks better if you see it

01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:37.840
not on the stream and not like converted in like 16 color mode yeah um so there's

01:30:35.679 --> 01:30:41.960
uh there's a power supply on the bottom there's ITX there and then you can go

01:30:39.800 --> 01:30:45.440
ahead and check out all of the different photos of it so we should probably post

01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:49.600
a link to the build log section I'm just going to track that down or if you want

01:30:46.639 --> 01:30:52.679
to post gra if you jump on the next one on your screen I'll post the thing in

01:30:51.040 --> 01:30:57.719
the chat work on that sure we got an honorable mention here guys project

01:30:55.000 --> 01:31:04.560
Affinity do you remember now nope this is the computer that people I believe

01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:06.960
built and distributed to lenois oh cool

01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:12.679
yeah so a bunch of people on The Forum I think it's a mainly people from the um

01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:15.600
unofficial TeamSpeak y all got together built this computer got him a whole

01:31:14.119 --> 01:31:21.520
bunch of games this is a list of games that he got wow that's more games than I

01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:25.400
own no well it's more games than I play

01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:26.360
yes that is true and and like nice ones

01:31:25.400 --> 01:31:31.760
Battlefield 4 Star Citizen like big not just like oh

01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:34.560
we bought a humble Indy bundle like this oh my God they got them secret of the

01:31:33.080 --> 01:31:40.679
magic crystals that's a game about ponies um well yeah it is

01:31:40.679 --> 01:31:47.280
lenoi so over 10 community members

01:31:45.040 --> 01:31:52.040
contributed and this is just a really cool a really cool example of the

01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:55.080
community coming together and supporting each other I mean if you guys aren't

01:31:53.480 --> 01:32:02.119
already members of the lest Tech tips.com Forum you probably should be I

01:31:58.280 --> 01:32:04.679
mean this is just a small subset of like

01:32:02.119 --> 01:32:09.560
the super cool guys and gals that make up the community here so you know we uh

01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:13.600
we appreciate everyone just being part of it we think it's really really

01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:16.760
awesome so I think uh that's probably all I have to say about that yeah what's

01:32:15.280 --> 01:32:21.719
up with this stuff I'm not going to do these today oh I this is a company Kito

01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:27.080
that uh they they asked if I wanted to review the Kito pop Andor the Kito

01:32:25.239 --> 01:32:32.639
classic these are some SmartWatches that I think actually um are pretty unique

01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:38.880
and that particularly the pop tries to make the smartness like like by Design

01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:43.560
it's not that smart so instead of having a screen it's it's just an analog watch

01:32:41.679 --> 01:32:46.880
instead of having a screen that's like blah blah blah read your text messages

01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:52.800
reply to your text messages talking to your wrist um it just flashes hey that

01:32:50.280 --> 01:32:56.360
notification you got was uh text or it was an email or it was was an instant

01:32:54.360 --> 01:33:02.520
messaging thing and it just tells you sort of what kind of notification it was

01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:05.880
and then the classic has an analog face and then it actually does go into a

01:33:04.080 --> 01:33:09.440
little bit more detail in terms of what types of messages you got so it gives

01:33:07.280 --> 01:33:13.600
you battery indication and then you can read your messages on it as well and it

01:33:11.080 --> 01:33:16.239
actually looks quite nice so I was like okay well I can't promise a review

01:33:15.040 --> 01:33:19.840
because I've never heard of you before and I don't know if it's any good but

01:33:18.320 --> 01:33:24.320
you know if it's fantastic I'll do a review and what I'll definitely do is try out the products and talk about them

01:33:22.760 --> 01:33:29.520
on the W show so that's going be coming sometime in the next week or two all

01:33:26.400 --> 01:33:31.320
right I think that's about it so okay so

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01:33:54.199 --> 01:34:00.719
for you to use it anymore maybe I'll just break it no you're going to hold up

01:33:59.119 --> 01:34:04.080
Jay-Z I'm going to be like this is what I think of Jay-Z actually I don't think

01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:07.480
anything negative about Jay-Z I'm sure he's a perfectly nice gentleman I mean

01:34:05.560 --> 01:34:12.600
this picture is he seems very friendly in that picture yeah he looks really friendly in that picture yeah I don't he

01:34:10.480 --> 01:34:18.239
doesn't I don't know why anyone would be scared I wouldn't be no n not

01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:23.479
threatening at all I think we're done here