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let's wait we'll get giv too much

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information man there's Oculus bird simulator see that's it help show you

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too much information that bowel movement that I

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had before we started the show wow I might have heard that anyways

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uh Amazon patents taking photos against a white background and then intro time

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no you forgot about the Oculus thing I just said that how could you forget

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Oculus I just said that I didn't hear it

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what I said I said what I said Oculus R have bird stimulator if I didn't all the

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information it's not like you have a dash I'm going to give too much

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information that was what that led into that whole thing oh that makes sense

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okay you never set up the intro did you oh yeah I did

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handles or I lost track of what we were talking about okay so let's move into

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our first topic which is just

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unbelievable so this was originally posted on the Forum by pit

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5,000 and Amazon has allegedly um made

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it so that lonus didn't plug in his notebook before they started the stream

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so he's GNA have to go ahead and just pray to the technology gods that

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this is going to that's not good really terrible not

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sure what happened there why why the why the sound let's try that one more time I

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apologize sincerely to our lovely viewers who did not want to hear that

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HDMI oh the title of the show is wrong

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thank you for that Nick we actually have a new guy Nick who is responsible for

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reminding me of things that are uh that should have been done yes I'm really

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sorry about uh about that noise I

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apologize uh did it update are we good are we it

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was like er I was like okay do it again

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thank you twist you are so awesome I

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love you okay well that's better all right so pit 5000 posts uh this is great

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an article that originally appeared on gizmodo.com about Amazon's revolutionary

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new patent taking photos on a white background now to be clear this isn't

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pure patent troll asshattery yeah it's

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just mostly patent Troll asshattery And

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to be clear patent troll mostly refers

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to when the company uses their patents

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to be aggressive about things and attack people to attack others and really the

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thing the funniest thing about this patent to me is not that Amazon filed

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for it or that it was granted but that no I don't know what

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I'm least surprised that they filed for it CU big companies just file for

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everything just to see if they can make something stick I'm extremely surprised

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it was ever granted and I'm sure they are too but there's some specific

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interesting things they go down into specifics on the level of how much

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wattage the lights use um what ISO your

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camera has to be at what f-stop your camera has to be at here's a diagram

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exact positioning of all the lights and all the cameras like it's insanely

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specific um if you go yeah you can see some it here and if you go to the um the

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the Second Source in the dock you can actually scroll down and then see all

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the crazy specifics that are on there so the Second Source right there yeah so

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here's the actual uh office here I'm

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just going to switch over there so I mean okay I guess the thing that

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surprises me here these are all the crazy spefic yeah so we're in the second

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rear light source is further positioned at a distance above the floor that is about 1.5 to 2.5 times the first

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distance and oriented at a downward relative to the floor and it's like this

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entire thing so you know what no the

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thing that surprises me is that Amazon filed for this yeah as opposed to that

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it was granted because it's specific enough basically the idea is that Amazon

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doesn't want to waste resources and really no one does they don't want to

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waste resources touching things up in post processing we waste a fair bit of

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time around here using a green screen because when you have a green screen if

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the lights aren't exactly the same that time or the actor stands a little bit

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further back or further forward or whatever the case may be you can end up

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with a situation where you have to touch it up and you have to tweak it in order to get it to look right Amazon be able

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to tell because the pixels that's right Amazon's technique requires no touchups

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and that's what they're patenting they're patenting a perfect technique

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for taking photos on a white background so that no touch-ups are required so I

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can kind of see why it would be granted the thing I don't understand is why

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Amazon bothered to file it because of two things number

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one is that by filing this extremely detailed patent all they've effectively

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done is given anyone and their dog the

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ability to replicate their supposed perfect technique that has never been

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done before yeah for taking perfect product photos the other thing is that

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they could never prove that anyone reading this patent and replicating

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their exact technique used it someone

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could just say oh well no I had the pedestal slightly lower it was at 39.5

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degrees like there's there's so many very specific things that you could

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change by a very small amount and then Dodge the pet so I I don't understand

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the point of

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it maybe you guys can enlighten me you

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know what Twitter Blitz um obviously I

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know you I don't need to see the usual rant about how the P system is

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flawed we know we all everyone knows that it's terrible and this honestly

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this is going to help that case a lot yeah because like this is ridiculous I

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mean it is ridiculous but with some of the stuff that we've seen get through it

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doesn't surprise me that it got approved but I would like to hear you guys say

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you know does this seem like the kind of thing that Amazon should have even

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bothered with or does it seem like the kind of thing that

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they well yeah I that's there's only

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really one answer here isn't there you know what random Twitter Blitz hit us up

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on at Linus and let us know something

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anything we love you guys we just want to hear from you you never

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call oh how funny that it's Mother's Day

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coming up and that's the first thing on your mind I

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was before I was like just there guilty conscience I've been to my parents house

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twice conscience the week's not even over I tried to go visit my mom but she

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was too busy with her grandson at the pond to take her phone with her so I sat

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in the parking lot at their apartment building for an hour I was able to make

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good use of the time I switched over from the 1 M8 to the 5S so bam when's

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your review coming from thanks to my mom I'm an Apple user again uh it's going to

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be coming probably not this weekend but next weekend is the plan so I'll be

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doing like a retrospective um what it was like being

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an iOS user and then an Android User now iOS user again but I'll spoil the ending

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for you guys I am switching back to the 1 M8 oh um so that that's going to

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happen what I'd really like to do is give the Moto X a longer try because I

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only really used it for my review and I didn't use it for as long as I would

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have liked so he's borrowing the Moto X because he can't keep his phones in one

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place or not broken but I'd like to give the Moto X another shot and then I'll

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probably end up on the one made again um

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speaking of one thing I like about the Moto X yes um is that you know I don't

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know if the 1 M8 can do this but I found a lot of Android phones the Okay Google

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thing doesn't really work Siri is amazing okay with with Moto

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X you can just say Okay Google and it'll start working oh yeah yeah yeah that's

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unique yeah yeah but like uh why isn't

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that on everything Siri is amazing I've

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never used it so get this I didn't even know if it could do this the thing about

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Google Google now is that you have to kind of like Google what it can do and

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then you have to like remember what it can do it's not intuitive

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last night I set an alarm for 8:30 and I

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was like my wife was like you're not going to get up at 8:30 I was like no no

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I'm going to get up at 8:30 she's like you're not going to get up at 8:30 I'm

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going to wake up I'm not going to be able to go back to sleep and you're not

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going to get up till 9 so set your alarm till 9: and I was like motivate me and

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so I set my alarm to 9 and um so all I

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had to do is be like tomorrow's alarm for 8:30 change it to 9:00 or something

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along those lines like in my vernacular I just told it what to do and it's like

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okay I changed that for you and like I didn't even believe it I just I like I I

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had to double I don't think you could do that with cool now and I was just like

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holy crap Google has and I think you

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could do it in two steps I think you could remove the alarm and then you could create a new one but it's not it's

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not as elegant and like Google's voice calling is

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ridiculous it's stupid voice calling

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what you mean yeah if you're like call whoever mobile it's like

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would you like to call this yes I just said that would you like to call home Mo

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yes I just said that Apple would you

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call my wife mobile calling Mobile

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ringing the only people I really call are in my favorite favorites anyways so

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it's almost faster for me to just be like click on phone click on person but

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like driving and stuff yeah yeah like I have reasons that I cuz normally yeah

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I'll I'll down and there are things that I miss about Android like Apple doesn't

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have uh T9 dialing which is awesome yeah

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like head explode awesome the first time I saw it um and that's how I dial most

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of the time but Siri is so much easier to use than Google now that I just

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absolutely love it I'm not super great with Google now so someone might um yeah

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someone's probably tearing me apart because there's some exact way that you

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can word it so that Google Now will understand you but I don't care that's

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not a great user experience that's one thing even without using Siri that I've

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been kind of able to pick up SP fox is like don't even start on S Voice well s

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sorry go ahead no one cares um didn't they do a thing recently about like how

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much people actually use the sa apps it

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was like not at all I can't remember who did that I have

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no Source I I just I think that happened no I missed that that sounds fantastic

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though I already love it if you've ever seen her Siri seems more like the AI

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operating systems in her Google Now seems more like the thing he's using

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before that but like a really early version of it right cuz you can kind of

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talk to Siri yep you can't really talk to Google Now if you try to talk to it

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it'll just Google what you said I hate that so much it makes me so mad like no

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I didn't want so mad I want you to Google something I would have said like

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Google search and then what I wanted you know what well you know what pisses me

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off most about Google now is I live in Su I live in a city I live in a city

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called sui okay and so half the time I try to navigate anywhere it's like

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something something Siri Siri whereas Siri knows what I'm talking

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about it can tell the difference between Siri and Siri and that is impressive to

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me all right so that actually LED in really well to uh a couple of topics

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here so number one was oh balls where is

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it what yes Stephen Hawkings says AI

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could be our worst nightmare you were talking about a very bad quote

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um worst mistake in history or something

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yeah it because they're grabbing like the second half of it it's it could be

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like their it could be the best thing or it could be the worst mistake yeah so so

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fortunately minimalist the uh gent who posted this or lady who posted this on

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the Forum has the actual quote which is

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sort of blah blah blah blah blah it's good saying it could be the most

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significant thing to ever happen in human history as it's oh no wait no no

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he didn't oh B all right so we'll have to go here could be our worst mistake in

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history but that is a very sensationalist

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headline ah okay forget it Luke already

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covered it pretty well so the idea is that what he actually said is that it

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could be the greatest thing ever or it could also be our worst mistake because

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we can't predict what here it is um

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although we are facing potentially the best or worst thing to happen in human

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in to happen to humanity in history so they grabbed like like the second half

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of a sentence then we're like oh my God but what he actually said was best or

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worst and I'm going to post this I'm going to post this link in the twitch

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chat because that's something that we should always do in general yeah and um

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you know what I was really I was proud of the internet today because I was

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reading this article and I was like oh great article but you know I wonder what

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people think about it it's got like a bajillion comments under it George

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dorski here actually posted like a

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cogent and well structured and

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respectful sort of disagreement with what everyone else is saying that I

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really quite enjoyed reading or maybe that's not the right one oh crap hold on

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which one was it um those those look like a lot of

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very wellth thought out replies which is not very common I thought that was the

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article that you're reading through this is the one this one's right George dori's thing is absolutely awesome and

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he kind of talks about how I think that's I think that's PV talking to

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George oh to okay PV PV you are the man

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or woman because that is that is that is a great response and it just kind of

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assumption that AI would behave the way that humans do and that it would

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perceive a lesser a lesser being as

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something it has to crush or has to destroy and gives he kind of outlines

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three likely scenarios so SC scario a

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which is that the AI attempts to destroy Humanity scenario B that the AI attempts

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to help humanity and scenario C that it just does nothing at all and the

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argument that AI would probably choose option C or option b without us noticing

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from a purely logical perspective what does it stand to gain destroying us

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really well probably a better environment a better environment for

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what it's metal it's not like it's going to take up space but it needs to be able

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to gain electricity if it had solar electricity we could possibly pollute

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the guy or ruin things

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right if its only goal is gaining electricity we are organisms that are

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using electricity as well so if it got rid of us then it could use all the electricity which assumes that it needs

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more electricity which assumes that it needs more there's a yeah I don't know I

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haven't even read this I'm just throwing in Devil's advocacy so yeah I mean so so

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anyway this writer makes a very very strong argument for it probably doing

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nothing that's and honestly that's kind of my side of it as well is because we

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we would pretty much have to program in the like hate for us for that to even

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happen or not I mean because I mean the whole the whole thing the whole AI thing

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is that it can learn is that it can learn and it can come up with its own

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ideas and if that idea happens to be a way to improve itself or to manipulate

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people to you know improve it or whatever else the case may be I suspect

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a very smart being would want to do all that without being

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noticed that's all yeah all right so and

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that actually LED really well into one of our oh you know what let's do our

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Twitter Blitz and then we'll move into one of the other things that uh LED

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pretty well into one of our topics here which was Samsung's head of mobile

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design resigns after the Galaxy S 5's poor reception so uh I actually I I I

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definitely I you know Samsung's one of those companies that just I don't know

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what it is but they're pretty fun to beat up um you know like I I love a lot

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of things about them but other times they just make me make me want to shake

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my head and cry all right so Mark says Linus why do you use IE uh because this

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is a fresh OS and ie is what I'm logged

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into everything with there's on that computer I know but I'm not logged into

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everything I'm lazy don't forget the outro this time thank you Joey oh here's

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lonus in his Lambo where is that picture picture whenever anyone photoshops

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anything that's always the picture of you that they use this picture yeah um

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it is from a thumbnail on an ancient ncx

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Tech tips outside of the old NCI like before you you don't have it on any

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profiles or anything anymore I used to have it on my first Google Plus profile

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so like how is anyways I just I see it so often this is see you can tell the

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quality of this one is quite poor yeah so this could have been pulled from

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someone else putting it somewhere oh okay so I think that's how things spread

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on the that makes sense yeah um as the patent is so specific it's fairly

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worthless not like that covers everything related Apple ones exactly

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and that is exactly my point why they even bother how is it even worth the

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thousands of dollars that it cost to file a patent yeah all they're doing is

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revealing how I could go and build that studio tomorrow thank you Amazon not

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that I'm going to do that of course not cuz we use might do something similar

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but yeah we could do it with green instead of white yeah when is the NCIX

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ultimate Nas setup video coming uh at some point I'm not sure it's up to

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Wheels over there and why no guests in when quite frankly because I'm lazy

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Intel z97 is out with Haswell refresh coming on Sunday I've never understood

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why Intel does this or AMD for that matter where they launch a chipset

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without a CPU or vice versa um so I mean

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we have like a literal stack of z97 boards that I haven't even looked at

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because why would I even bought B benchmarking them with non Haswell

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refresh chips I don't understand so

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on that for you guys okay did you know about boink

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yes we have a boink team of forums that is like huge so if you're interested in

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joining check it out we're top in Canada for like a few different things and

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we're World recognized so yeah we also

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have a giant folding team if you want to join that too the folding team is actually bigger in relation than the

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boink team is so David Cooper says if you make a great AI someone will

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eventually tell it to do something evil but that assumes the AI can't think for

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itself which it can because listen to anyone awesome Jake plush thank you Rob

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says I just ordered some i8s thanks to the recommendation and yes I use the

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sponsor link Rob you're awesome yay thank you for being awesome also the i8s

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are awesome yeah I still use them every

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day I love them they're fantastic I used iPhone 4 my experience was very

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disappointing I was since I switched then but I but I may test the iPhone 6

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five days oh oh this is a tweet in

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response to something that I was talking about on Twitter last night where

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OnePlus offered me a 5day laner unit of

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the OnePlus One and I basically told them forget it because what I can do is

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like I'll play around with it for five days and then I can talk about it on WOW

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but I'm not going to do a review because quite frankly the our review of the 1 M8

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which I think represents the very best that I can do at least right now in

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terms of a phone review our review of the 1 M8 took me well over a week just

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to to use the phone and make notes on and prepare and then like obviously it

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wasn't a week dedicated to just that I was making other videos throughout that

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week but everything's kind of like that where I'll spend a week with it parttime

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and and I'll be making notes as I go then it took me hours to compile into a

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full script hours to shoot and then it

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took a full day for one of my editors to edit so I'm sitting there going okay so

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you're going to give me five days with this what I'm going to rush my

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review all in the name of I can play with a phone for five days well sorry

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what's in this for me what's in this for my viewers why am I doing this even like

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our phone reviews actually started off with monthlong trials that was the whole

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thing with us starting phone reviews and then even with the Tegra Note which I

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didn't even do a ton on I had it for uh slightly over a week and on the

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Saturday during that week I spent literally the entire day doing nothing

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else except for playing with the tablet so yeah so that's kind of the idea we

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don't necessarily do the spec heavy reviews that other guys do or the

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benchmarks that they do we focus on what it's like to actually use the bloody

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thing I noticed I never got the Tegra Note back it's

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doing Ah that's right oh we have a really cool video coming soon there's a

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product that claims to use UV light to

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clean your phone at night so we actually we got like real Petri dishes and stuff

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and like did swabs and stuff so we're going to let you guys know if that works

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that's coming really soon that was like immediately after my I I remember that

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now I thought you were stealing company property again why Wherever Would I get

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that idea Wherever Would I get that idea I'm like you all right so let's uh move

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on to our next topic here Samsung's head of mobile design resigns after Galaxy

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S5s Pooh reception it's funny where that got cut off on the

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page it's cuz he's zoomed in too much there we go

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poor I mean it's pretty accurate in terms of parties what would a pooh

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reception be hopefully not fondu hopefully not

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a I was trying to of some way to spin it well and then I was like well it could

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be like a fond do thing and I was like that's actually really disgusting that's

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actually a lot worse um so

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anyway so so follow posted originally on

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the Forum by etj um so he he has resigned following

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criticism about the Galaxy S5s uh lack of thank you for using a

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word that I actually don't know how to pronounce appreciate that B egj so

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though the Galaxy S 5's design did not actually deviate too far from earlier

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models it's looks and textured plastic back where round were roundly I'm not

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even reading this anymore you're from like the UK and you're writing it wrong

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so basically reviewers didn't like the build quality they didn't like the

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backing material I don't know what people didn't like about the backing material I liked it it's different it's

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easier to grip I'm not against it yeah like I actually quite like the backing

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of the Galaxy S5 it's one of the things I did like about it cuz I like TouchWiz

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that's for sure I I mean honestly I think the criticism of the S5 is less

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about the S5 not being a solid incremental Improvement honestly the

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build quality feels a lot better than the S4 to me it has less Flex in it by

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far it's waterproof and or water resistant rather and all that stuff but

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I think it's more to do with the phone Community getting bored and not actually

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recognizing their own boredom for what

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it is they're it's harder for them to find things to get excited about

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compared to in the past when there were so many amazing new Innovations coming

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with every new smartphone and we've talked about this a fair bit on the show

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but it's kind of like PC enthusiasts saying you know uh MSI or ASUS's or

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whoever's new motherboard isn't exciting therefore it sucks well really it's just

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mature now and it's not changing much anymore and you're just not into it that

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much anymore and and I think people are not recognizing that they're losing the

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interest maybe not in the software side I think there's still a lot of

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innovation to happen on the software side of things but in terms of the

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hardware we've all basically Consolidated down to you know an iPhone

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one of various sizes or shapes yeah that's very very similar one one thing

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that I like like every single time we bring this up I bring up LG because they

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did move the buttons to the back like there is things you can do with layout

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and stuff um that still has been untried yet and there's going to be things like

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virtual keyboards and stuff that people are going to be working on but it's not going to be like major drastic

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gamechanging things on every single phone

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release so that's um so that's that's

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what I think this is I mean um you know despite the perceived lack of beauty

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Samsung managed to sell 86 million smartphones in Q4 last year uh widening

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it lead over Apple but Samsung is apparently struggling to make a profit

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on its phone thanks in part to I hate the way this is written anyway

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they spend a lot on marketing so that's uh that's costing them a lot um I guess

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that's all there is to really say about that is I I think it's just people not

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being excited about the phones in general and not that Samsung is

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particularly doing anything wrong I mean um I I mean they are doing things wrong

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but they're not doing anything really new wrong like they're still they're

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still making Touch wiz for old people

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which I like I don't know how to fix something like that that because when

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you've when you've cornered the market on old people who can't see their screens very well it's not like you want

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to go ahead and change all your UI elements and make them small but you

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could you could have like a scaling option or something yeah you could have scaling that works better I guess that

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that's an option um all right so I was

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looking for a segue here and I've got nothing but this is absolutely brutal I

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mean when I first heard about this I um

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I was kind of sitting there going well geez I hope this doesn't go any where

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because we review things and sometimes we say negative things about them so you

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you were actually looking into this a fair bit I thought do you want to cover this one I've done a lot of talking was

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but I don't know where it's really going to go Amazon asked them really hardcore

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really quickly you're skipping to the ending you haven't told them what

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happened yet I I don't like okay so someone someone um posted a review and

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then Media Bridge fre freaked out um people are saying that Media Bridge has

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had falsified or reviews in the past and then this one crazy flammatory review

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was really bad Media Bridge came back saying that oh you cost all these people

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jobs and all this kind of stuff by posting this review and it's flammatory

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so we're going to go after you um I'm

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not exactly what sure happened between them at that point but then Amazon asks

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them completely they cannot sell through Amazon anymore uh I believe that still

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does mean that other sellers through

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Amazon could sell their products right but they can't sell as an Amazon product

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which will probably hurt them a lot because I know at least me I know there's people that don't care but

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personally if I'm buying something off Amazon it has to come from Amazon or

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else why am I buying it off Amazon oh I just buy stuff off of Amazon Marketplace

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all the time the reason is that Amazon Market Place um means you have Amazon's

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customer service as a protective I've tried that before didn't really work

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really oh I they were like yeah we can't really do much it's not us I was like

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okay oh wow yeah that's why I personally only do it through Amazon I have done it

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example I have done it before right and it totally didn't work out at all I

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bought an old school game and it came in the box and stuff and it was a really

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good price and I ordered online and I've

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never really liked ordering old school games online because it's very possible

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like the the game store that I buy from locally they have like a nday return

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thing so you can go home make sure the game actually works because it's probably ancient and then if it doesn't

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work you get your money back online that can be part of kind of an issue right

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right sometimes it's not even worth the cost of shipping it back yeah it it

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depends this time it didn't work and I was like okay well I want my money back

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because it was a nice inbox game and it did cost a little bit of money and they

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weren't responding so I went to Amazon customer service and they were like well

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huh I don't know well there you go okay well you learn something every day so

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basically so the what it looked like was going to happen here at first was that

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just you know a guy posted a negative

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review where I okay the negative review did contain some pretty specific

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criticisms of uh of Media Bridge media

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link and that was that it was a just a rebadged router which honestly a lot of

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consumers think that that's a really big deal it's not most things that you're

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going to be buying are actually rebadged have you ever bought you know like and

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it depends on how you even want to Define like rebadged have you ever

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bought a deink wireless adapter because

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it's just gonna have an AOS or Marvel

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chipset on a PCB that's just going to be basically a reference design with some

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plastic thing around it with a plastic thing is that a rebadge I don't know is

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that an integrated a product from A supplier and that they sell to the

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consumer probably I don't know so I mean

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maybe it was a rebadge maybe it wasn't what the reviewer also said was that um

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00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:24,559
okay so said it was uh blah blah blah said that they had falsified other

441
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:29,399
reviews on Amazon in order to make their products seem better than they are which

442
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:34,039
is a pretty serious accusation and so if they were going to go after him for

443
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:39,880
liable then that would be potentially there would there potentially be a case

444
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,840
there and then um the problem though is

445
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,679
that what Media Bridge did is they came back saying you have harmed Media Bridge

446
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,600
we intend to hold you liable for all damages sustained they said he must

447
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:53,360
delete his negative product review on Amazon within 3 days of receiving the

448
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,799
letter stop all defamatory and injurious conduct where the company and agree

449
00:32:54,639 --> 00:33:02,600
never to purchase or comment on a Media Bridge product again so uh the riewer

450
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:09,799
has actually since changed the review to remove the statements but um you know I

451
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:13,240
think that that's not

452
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:14,440
uh yeah this quote too the damage is

453
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,679
just kind of done at this point the quote about the REM the reviewer removing the statement is kind of

454
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:23,200
interesting because it goes exactly like this the reviewer has since changed his

455
00:33:20,639 --> 00:33:27,440
review completely to remove the liist statements but unfortunately not before

456
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:31,279
having an Army attack us on the internet yeah this is from Media Bridge so they

457
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:37,519
they're they're basically accusing the reviewer of you know colluding with

458
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:39,639
other internet Denis to go and like

459
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:43,799
thumbs up the review because it was a big part of the problem for media link I

460
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:48,240
guess is that it was the most helpful negative review and honestly those are

461
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:51,960
the ones that people see the most helpful positive one the most helpful

462
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:57,799
negative one and it had a bunch of people thumbs it up saying it was

463
00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:00,960
helpful so and like I sometimes I see

464
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:02,840
redit is just a pack of dogs that needs

465
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:06,519
something to go after all the time it could be positive it could be negative

466
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,800
it could be whatever and like maybe it just happened that there was no other

467
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,280
really super important super positive or super negative news at that point in

468
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:17,720
time and it hit Reddit right point in time they're just like ra because that

469
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:21,040
happens yeah definitely a thing it's funny they use the word Army because you

470
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:26,919
could probably describe the Reddit Community as an army sometimes you know

471
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:30,440
who that Army works for exactly we're not sure but

472
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:34,200
for the people in theory I guess but sometimes you know an army of the people

473
00:34:32,359 --> 00:34:39,359
without you know clear leadership and a clear sort of Direction can just kind of

474
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:44,280
do things and whether they were wrong here or not actually hard to say I mean

475
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:50,040
it's possible that Media Bridge was totally off Bas it's possible that the

476
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:52,679
reviewer was totally off Bas and saying

477
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:56,359
things that just blatantly weren't true but then it's always better to

478
00:34:54,359 --> 00:35:00,079
communicate with that person rather than having a lawyer do the communic yeah or

479
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:06,320
just prove them wrong yeah I mean that's the issue to me is when you when the

480
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:09,320
opening Salvo is do this or else cease

481
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:13,640
and desist or else the opening Salvo

482
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:16,320
should be hey um yo do you mind yeah

483
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:20,079
yeah and then if that's a problem well then you get the lawyers involved or

484
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,720
like talk to Amazon about their review service and try to bring up the whole

485
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:27,839
like oh well he posted like surprisingly positive reviews on other people's

486
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:32,800
things just to make ours look really bad look good and all that kind of stuff talk to Amazon about that um talk to him

487
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,920
try and prove that you're not rebadging even though that probably doesn't matter

488
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,560
try and prove all these other different things then you get posed as the good

489
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,960
person and then the Reddit Army Gets behind you instead of in front of you

490
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,000
good old Reddit Army all right so we've got our next

491
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:52,920
topic here and that is that the developers this is just H this is

492
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:57,720
interesting um this is terrible so the I think the official

493
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:03,640
post saying that he was actually taking it down wasn't even done by the original

494
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,640
developer let's see

495
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:11,040
here yeah yeah yeah it wasn't even done by the original developer it was done by

496
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:17,280
a guy that joined on and his agreement that was that he would make 15% of the

497
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:19,960
sales of towns MH so it it became not

498
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:23,400
worth it for him personally because Town sales were going down this isn't the

499
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,359
game even isn't even released yet but Town sales were going down so he wasn't

500
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,040
making enough money the original Creator ALS Al felt like he wasn't making enough

501
00:36:28,839 --> 00:36:36,400
money although the game is worth how much and then it's selling 200,000 times

502
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:40,520
so that dude probably did actually make quite a bit of money um and in this post

503
00:36:39,319 --> 00:36:45,760
they talk about how they're interested in making a sequel did you know that part okay we

504
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,240
haven't really given the audience any context did you sleep much last night

505
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:53,240
are you tired um no but it's pretty straightforward okay but we haven't told

506
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:57,359
it's an early access game that hasn't been released yet I saw that oh did you

507
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,920
yeah then I I haven't been sleep last night

508
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:05,200
it's like the second thing that you just straight up didn't

509
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:07,040
hear anyways it's it first launched on

510
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Steam at the end of 2012 it's an in development game it's uh I think it's

511
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:15,480
through the Greenlight system that it was yeah it was one of the green lit

512
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,400
games um it's it's it's not out yet sold

513
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:21,319
200,000 copies has been abandoned and they're planning on releasing I mean the

514
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:27,160
original Dev abandoned it in February saying you know burned out handed it

515
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,480
over to uh Florian frankenberger and

516
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:35,400
then within a couple of months now it's not going well and development has been

517
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,400
completely abandoned I mean

518
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:41,000
um how do you fix this I don't know people have been talking about

519
00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:45,520
contractual obligation to complete a game if it gets

520
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:51,680
greenlit so if you if you your complete mean yeah exactly I mean

521
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:54,000
ask yeah that's a good point it's it's

522
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:58,839
it's hard this is a problem with Early Access then we got that guy posting in

523
00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:00,599
our forums um where taking this away is

524
00:37:58,839 --> 00:38:04,920
going to hurt a massive amount of developers but then leaving this here is

525
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:11,359
going to hurt a massive amount of people well because there are the success stories with Early Access like Minecraft

526
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:14,760
Minecraft what an enormous success story and there's a lot of games that honestly

527
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:19,560
people are enjoying playing right now because they're honestly not that broken

528
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:24,119
and probably shouldn't be in beta or Early Access that are currently in Early

529
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:27,960
Access like I know rust a lot of people were playing rust and having no real

530
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:31,520
problems with it um now I there's a ton of bugs but don't worry about it um for

531
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:34,680
a long time and I I don't know if it's released now or not but like a lot of

532
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,839
people are playing it very actively there's a huge Community behind it and

533
00:38:36,839 --> 00:38:42,119
it was fine it's it's going okay and there's a lot of games that are like

534
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:46,839
that um the guy that posted in our Forum I believe was for like robot dodgeball

535
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:52,960
or something robot disco dodgeball I saw them at PA East actually

536
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:54,800
um so yeah I don't I don't know how you

537
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,359
exactly fix this a big problem is what you just brought up whereas if you put

538
00:38:56,319 --> 00:39:02,240
like a conat obligation where you have to release the game or have to complete

539
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:07,160
the game if you decide to abandon it you can just be like not Early Access

540
00:39:03,839 --> 00:39:07,160
anymore now it's

541
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:13,240
done yeah maybe they can have something where there's like a minimum goal like

542
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:19,359
you have to have these amount of things in the game yeah but like how do you

543
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:22,720
define that I mean the C okay the the

544
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:23,800
lawyers involved in writing the contract

545
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:28,240
that I mean and think about the development process of anything like

546
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:33,400
what if what if lus Media Group what something changes a year and 4 and a

547
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:39,400
half months ago had been told to contractually commit to what kind of

548
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:45,000
videos we were going to do two years from now I mean the amount that what we

549
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:49,800
do has changed in that time and I mean any creative processes like that you

550
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,599
know like a a a game you might go okay we're going to have three campaigns and

551
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:58,000
three races and you might kind of go oh this is stupid starcraft's been made

552
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:02,480
already we're going to have six races or we're going to have two races or you

553
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:07,640
know whatever else happens to be as long as you don't just have one race Donald

554
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:11,200
then you know you're being very 21st century about it that's all I'm trying

555
00:40:08,839 --> 00:40:16,160
to say and the point is that that that it can change so the kind of contract

556
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:19,359
that you would have to write to like spell it out in detail enough that they

557
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:23,520
would actually have to deliver something I don't know how to fix it it's impossible I mean the loyers the lawyers

558
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:27,520
would be happy with that Arrangement I'm sure yeah yeah one thing is like this is

559
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:31,079
this comes back to the kickstarter talk we were talking about a long time ago and something that you guys should

560
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:37,240
probably take a look at at if you're really interested in this is total biscuits video on Early Access um but

561
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,560
it's it's where like do your research make sure the guy that you're supporting

562
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:45,040
has like made a bunch of stuff Chris Roberts um hopefully it's a game Studio

563
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:50,680
there are entire game studios putting stuff up on uh Greenlight and on um

564
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:55,160
Kickstarter make sure that there's some sort of a background um it's I haven't

565
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,720
read enough into it but I've heard some people saying that the guy that made towns has a few failed in the past I

566
00:40:58,359 --> 00:41:04,319
don't know if that's true I've just seen that in a few different places so like that's the kind of stuff you want to

567
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:07,960
look into it's an early access game you are gambling to a certain point you're

568
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,680
not you're not buying the game as is right now or if you are then you're

569
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,640
happy with it already and it doesn't matter but that's the that's the problem

570
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:20,960
is that people feel like when they pay for something they should get some like

571
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:27,000
here and it's the whole well they should they should that's the whole Kickstarter

572
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:30,560
problem is people perceive Kickstarter

573
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,880
as is like buying something but the

574
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:37,319
problem is that Kickstarter is more like a donation yeah cuz you're not buying

575
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,960
something because often times they don't actually have to deliver it or it

576
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:47,480
doesn't have to be very functional and then the other times um wait so oh right

577
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:51,960
right right so so and the other problem is that if it is really successful you

578
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:56,800
don't actually get a cut of it so it's not an investment and it's not a

579
00:41:53,880 --> 00:42:01,240
purchase it's a donation to support someone who you think should make the

580
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:06,040
thing that you like like honestly guys I've got what I think is a fantastic

581
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:10,960
idea for a movie trailer that I want to make I think that lonus Media Group has

582
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:16,960
gotten to the point where we are capable of creating an awesome movie trailer we

583
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:19,880
are nowhere near capable of creating an

584
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:23,760
awesome movie they're really different very different things completely

585
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:28,160
different skill sets in a lot of ways but what we could easily do is we could

586
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:31,760
kickstart and that's the thing is a well-merchandised Kickstarter so we

587
00:42:29,839 --> 00:42:35,960
could Kickstart support us to make this movie give us you know $100,000 or

588
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:42,079
whatever the case may be we could make a fantastic trailer spend 15 $20,000 on

589
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:45,119
that and then just you know buy ice

590
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:47,079
cream with the other $80,000 release a

591
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:53,280
movie that's like starring me and Luke and shot with like a phone

592
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,200
camera and we haven't actually done

593
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:59,160
anything illegal and like this ties in I think

594
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,480
I've told this story on the show before where I I've backed a lot of Kickstarter

595
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:09,000
projects most of them have been successful some of them have been glowingly successful to the point where

596
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:13,160
um the the the guy that's made yeah Pebble real companies are formed but

597
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:17,640
like some of the smaller ones that I've done where it is a company but now it's

598
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:19,800
like two or three people and it's been a

599
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,920
year and a half since I got my product in my hands for them like it's been a

600
00:43:21,319 --> 00:43:26,640
long time they're still in contact with all of us um all the kickstarter backers

601
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:29,680
are getting huge discounts all the time just cuz they're like thank you you

602
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,599
allowed us to become a thing that's awesome and that's what you kind of Hope

603
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:36,559
happens from Kickstarter um and they they still allow us to put input in

604
00:43:35,319 --> 00:43:41,720
towards projects that they're doing in the future and stuff like that which is really cool but that doesn't happen all

605
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:46,520
the time I have been completely screwed over I I bought into a Kickstarter the

606
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:49,920
guy didn't post updates forever and then was randomly like yep nope I didn't do

607
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:56,079
anything and I'm not going to do anything so nope like 100% And then he's like oh

608
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:59,640
apparently I have to give refunds so give me your information and then no

609
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:04,400
update and then months later he's like well I'm doing the refunds today no one

610
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:08,200
got them and then radio silence since then I don't ever expect to get that

611
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:11,680
money back because and you know what's really stupid is some of the

612
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:17,800
kickstarters I've seen fail are even things as stupid as like playing

613
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:19,760
cards they just flat out didn't make

614
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:24,280
it's like really what did you spend the money on and you know a lot of the time

615
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:29,559
I think it's on like a posh office and like a nice new computer to put on their

616
00:44:26,559 --> 00:44:31,319
fancy desk when really and it it

617
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:36,160
frustrates me the way a lot of startups behave like they already are making the

618
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,559
money as opposed to figuring out how to

619
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:42,880
deliver the product the best that they possibly can to their customers the best

620
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,960
way they possibly can without spending that money so that they can keep that

621
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:50,960
money to reinvest in themselves for the future I mean that's how I think businesses should be run but a lot of

622
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:54,000
the time that's not really how it goes there was recently a kickstar I don't

623
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,599
remember what this was for I wish I had research on this but um they they were

624
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,760
complaining meaning that they had ran out of money because one of the employees in the company when they're

625
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:05,280
running their Kickstarter was in like serious money troubles so when the

626
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:08,760
kickstarter ended and they got all the money he took like a third of it and

627
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:13,680
they were just like yeah it's a cash advance for like six month

628
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:18,480
salary and then they're like oh wait we don't have any money left because we

629
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:21,040
gave it all to him and it's like

630
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:24,280
what are you kidding me was that somewhere on the kickstarter page we

631
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,760
were funding this guy's like probably I'm going to assume gambling troubles

632
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,359
like could be drugs could be anything like no

633
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:35,319
that wasn't a part of the kickstarter but could be just anything I I used to

634
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:39,720
work with uh I used to have a co-worker who we were in sort of a similar without

635
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:46,079
giving too much detail I I have some idea what kind of money uh she made and

636
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:51,280
like the amount of money that I saw getting like I I knew I knew the pay

637
00:45:48,359 --> 00:45:57,160
grade I knew approximately the expenses I knew her pretty well and the amount of

638
00:45:53,400 --> 00:46:00,440
money that I saw her blowing on Hobby

639
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:03,160
stuff I was sitting there going okay so

640
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:11,079
you're constantly like asking for more money but I know that you waste it all

641
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:13,280
on stupid crap so maybe if you stopped

642
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:17,559
wasting it on stupid crap we wouldn't have this problem because you make a

643
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:23,119
very fair living wage

644
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:26,079
yeah speaking of a fair living wage 3.2

645
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:29,559
billion apples reportedly considering buying Beats for 3.2 billion oh this has

646
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:34,760
been updated since the last time I looked at it by Alex Goes high is

647
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:39,839
apparently kind of confirmed so ah right yes I did hear

648
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:43,599
about this so Dr Dre was caught up celebrating the deal in his Studio

649
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:47,520
because he posted a video about said celebration on Facebook that has been

650
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:52,480
deleted the Verge evidently saved it to their servers prior to the takedown so

651
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:57,720
basically in the video Dr Dre describes himself as the first billionaire in hip

652
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:59,720
hop and uh

653
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:03,559
doesn't explicitly confirm the Apple acquisition but the the implication

654
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:10,960
there is that the deal is basically already done so Apple would be acquiring

655
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:12,599
not just like headphones which to me is

656
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,839
less I mean yeah it's a huge business and all that but that's less of a big

657
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,880
deal and probably if Apple decided to release their own Apple branded

658
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,280
headphones they could crush Beats headphones if they really felt like it I

659
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:28,480
mean the kinds of people who buy Beats headphones are probably going to also be interested in Apple headphones and quite

660
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:31,280
frankly I have a lot more faith in apple than I do in beats when it comes to

661
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,880
making a decent pair of headphones I'd assume it had really good build quality

662
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:38,280
which I don't assume of Beats I I I don't even know but I just I don't

663
00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:42,680
assume they're they're nothing I've never bought a pair of Beats um so I

664
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:46,200
forget where I was going with that what is your thing you said you have a very

665
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:51,960
unpopular opinion about I'll get to that um so Apple will also be buying beats's

666
00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:55,839
streaming service so that is is a music streaming service that's actually um

667
00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:00,640
similar to something that Apple's been rumored to be developing so it would

668
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:04,079
potentially work on Android devices so this could be a great way for Apple to

669
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,559
get into the music streaming service I mean music is something that Apple's

670
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:12,839
been very heavily into since the job's days and it could allow them to get a

671
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,079
chunk of that pie on the Android side

672
00:48:12,839 --> 00:48:20,760
without like creating branding weirdness

673
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:23,400
around you know iTunes for Android you

674
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:27,040
know whatever they want to call it or or or or whatever that ends up turning into

675
00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:32,160
so I think that's actually more interesting it's funny to me that this

676
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:38,079
is actually by far Apple's biggest acquisition um so it's the second

677
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:40,280
biggest was actually next back in 1997

678
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:43,920
when they brought Steve Jobs's next computer company back or Computing next

679
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:48,559
I forget what it was called anyway when they brought next back into the fold and

680
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:56,200
reacquired Steve Jobs so this is far bigger than that um Apple's more about

681
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,559
the little strategic micro Acquisitions

682
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,599
where they see like a really smart technology and and and buy them up

683
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:06,160
before they get big so this is very uncharacteristic for them making like a

684
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:10,040
power move like this it's interesting I I I see it kind of makes sense though

685
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:15,000
because of how much they're already entwined yeah sort of I mean they sell

686
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:19,079
Beats in the Apple store but I mean they also sell Cooler Master like aluminum

687
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:22,240
phone stands in the store I yeah but I bet you in terms of Revenue beat spring

688
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:28,440
is in a lot more than The Cooler Master aluminum stand you know what's baffling

689
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:30,240
to me is how I manag to live in the kind

690
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:35,760
of bubble that I live in like when we were trying to do the Hackintosh um

691
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:40,200
build uh the the the guy we were working with Rampage Dev who's a Hackintosh

692
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:44,799
developer really nice guy super nice guy we really like him cool guy um he was

693
00:49:42,359 --> 00:49:48,839
like oh yeah to create the the bootable USB drive just plug it into a Mac and do

694
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:54,760
this I'm like I I don't have a Mac he's like then borrow one I'm like I don't

695
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,880
know a single person who owns a Mac he's

696
00:49:54,760 --> 00:50:01,319
like what I'm like don't worry man I'll figure it

697
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,760
out but I don't know a single person who owns a Mac I don't know a single person

698
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:11,079
who owns Beat headphones did I say Beat Beats Beats

699
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:15,960
headphones who someone who works here a while ago

700
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:19,280
who I don't think he still has them do I have to hit him I don't think he still

701
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:23,920
has I know he has monster turbines is it Brandon

702
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:27,920
no it's not Ed is it

703
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,720
no no

704
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,920
he had them he had them a while ago I don't know if he still has them no we

705
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:37,960
were making fun of people who own Beats headphones yeah and I was saying that

706
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:43,520
you have Monster earbuds but those are actually fairly well well reputed so

707
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,200
you're okay you're off the hook Brandon

708
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:49,960
yeah he had the the like small ones that go on your ear oh really yeah oh

709
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:55,040
headache so it's it was a while ago though when he got like an employee discount on them it's our new guy we are

710
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:59,640
all ashamed of him I wouldn't have hired him if I'd known that that is that is a

711
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:04,400
very sad very sad State of Affairs right right now imagine he posted that on the

712
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:07,240
audio Forum so here's just get

713
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:12,280
slaughtered here's what I will say about an Apple beats

714
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:14,160
acquisition I would actually be pretty

715
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:18,880
excited to see a product that came out of this

716
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:22,480
Union that's what I'll say that's all I have to say about it guys I'm going to

717
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,480
create a straw pole because Apple owns them would you be as know that would

718
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:31,520
never happen I'm not even to I'm not even put that up I was going to say it was the other way around and I was like

719
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,520
no there's no

720
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,760
way I could have made that so you could have kept talking oh I don't really have

721
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:44,680
anything else to say okay are we done with this topic then uh yeah I'm just

722
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:47,960
going to um like basically I okay I guess I do have more to say so the

723
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:53,599
reason that I would be excited about that is because beats I appreciate their

724
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:59,000
style and I appreciate their marketing but what has always been lacking for me

725
00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:05,680
is the actual build quality and the actual exceptional of the product so

726
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:08,440
anything good yeah um where and but what

727
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:14,839
they're what they've been good at what they have been good at is increasing the

728
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,200
demand for Quality Audio Solutions even

729
00:52:14,839 --> 00:52:20,599
because people were like wow this is bad I want to buy something better no no no

730
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:25,160
no no no no no no like like commercials like the HP Envy commercial where they

731
00:52:22,599 --> 00:52:30,760
have Dr Dre with his stupid headphones on on an HP notebook and like talking

732
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:36,760
about how better audio enriches The Experience because it does the problem

733
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:40,920
is that beats never actually delivered the enriched audio experience but the

734
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:46,559
good thing they did was they made people aware of crappy audio and how much it

735
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:51,480
sucks so what I would like to see apple do so here's my straw poll you guys uh

736
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:56,640
what I would like to see apple do is actually build something with Beats

737
00:52:54,079 --> 00:53:02,000
branding that is good because hate on Apple all you want the iPhone 5S is an

738
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:08,480
exceptional piece of hardware and even all even the Android Fanboys have to

739
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:11,599
agree that what's great about the HTC1

740
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:13,480
series The 1 M7 and the 1 M8 is that

741
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:18,160
someone on the Android side finally rivaled Apple for build quality which

742
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:22,559
would imply that we never had anything equivalent before they are quality built

743
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:26,040
products they're fast Apple actually Engineers solutions that are good

744
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:30,280
they're processors that they actually build M unlike pretty much everyone else

745
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:35,839
with the exception of Samsung where they're just using an off-the-shelf processor Apple actually Engineers the

746
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:40,480
crap out of things so if they engineered the crap out of a $300 pair of

747
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:46,359
headphones I would expect to actually get $300 level build quality and $300

748
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:50,760
level sound quality out of it that's what I would like to see there's you you

749
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:56,839
can't possibly say that they don't make things well you can but it's just stupid

750
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,960
that's all I have to say about that um okay I guess yeah you could technically

751
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:05,960
say it yeah you could say it but you're just completely wrong so there you go um

752
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:10,839
do you want to do a topic sure uh there's a few left actually there's a

753
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:15,720
lot left here I'm going to throw those straw pole results up there boom okay so

754
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:21,520
one that I find really interesting because we've been talking about VR a lot lately and yep I'm going to talk

755
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:24,640
about another Oculus Rift thing yeah baby is that the the biggest thing that

756
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:29,359
we've both said is that it's not necessarily immersive in US yeah because

757
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:32,480
not all your senses are engaged and that's what's really interesting about

758
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:36,280
this I could engage your senses that wouldn't have to be VR oh

759
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:40,040
god really is this the thing that you're

760
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:44,119
going to do on the show no okay I don't know what you're talking about all right

761
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:44,119
um

762
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,440
so wow

763
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:56,079
anyways so a company a company called

764
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:01,680
something birdley I think I'm a little bit distracted right now um has created

765
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:06,599
this giant machine thing that they're quoting saying uh you do not control a

766
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:10,799
machine you embody a bird the red kite which is a bird by the way um but

767
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:15,880
honestly you're you're controlling a machine um but what's really interesting

768
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:19,599
about it is that it engages your physical sense so you're liter you're

769
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:24,359
laying flat up on this machine and then you have to Flap as if you're a bird

770
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:29,200
like he's doing right there um and then it is putting smell into the environment

771
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:32,440
so what you see on the Oculus Rift is pushed through towards you so if you're

772
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,599
flying over a forest you'll smell a forest if you're flying over mud flats

773
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:41,400
you'll smell mud whatever um and you can see that giant fan right in front of him

774
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:45,160
that fan will change how fast it's spinning depending on how fast he's

775
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:48,240
going in the game so if he starts going really quickly the fan will start

776
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:52,599
spinning really quickly so you're getting um not necessarily accurate but

777
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:56,880
you're getting representative wind speed towards your head and you're getting

778
00:55:55,079 --> 00:56:00,039
smell and you're getting vision from the oculus rift this is kind of the stuff

779
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:05,079
that I'm talking about it's still not going to feel like you're actually a bird cuz you're laying on something kind

780
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:09,520
of flapping around but it should be really interesting to be able to try

781
00:56:06,839 --> 00:56:16,440
they're saying that it has um aloric what is it called sorry what

782
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:19,480
now alaic smell no I know but is that how you pronounce it I'm actually not

783
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:24,680
sure alaic alaor I don't know olfaction either way

784
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,520
Factory perception so so Factory perception is how how you smell things

785
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:32,079
they have feedback on that they also have feedback based on uh which which is

786
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:38,039
based on the location of the bird while you're flying I said if you fly over forest all that kind of stuff um and

787
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:42,640
then it has wind speed and actually physically

788
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:48,520
flapping no you can have that banana on your

789
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,039
shirt I don't want that in my hand um

790
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,240
cool though because this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes

791
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:57,920
to exciting things that we're going to be able to do with VR yeah and like this

792
00:56:56,359 --> 00:57:03,680
maybe isn't the most realistic thing for something that everyone's going to have in their house yeah it's like it's like

793
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:08,559
if if we had conversations before about how I was like yeah Omni is cool but

794
00:57:06,319 --> 00:57:13,839
like I wouldn't find room for it in my house like yeah I'm going to have like a

795
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:19,240
dedicated like you know quarter of a room for like my bird simulator machine

796
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:24,079
and my goat simulator machine and my Farmer simulator machines like it's

797
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:28,000
going to turn you know what gaming is going back to Arcade size machine

798
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,640
they're going to they should get it to the point where there's one and it's like a Transformer you tell it what game

799
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:36,559
you want to play and it just like changes itself that would be amazing

800
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:39,359
somebody Kickstart that I'm not going to give you my money cuz I know you can't

801
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:44,520
build it I was just going to say don't Kickstart it cuz you will never be

802
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,000
successful it won't work but I like how

803
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,920
you think does yeah exactly but yeah yeah I I hope they have

804
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:52,559
this kind of stuff at like Science World yeah that would be cool or or different

805
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:59,720
things like that so you can actually try Tellis world of science oh whatever can

806
00:57:55,839 --> 00:58:02,640
you believe that like it's like Telos

807
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:06,480
you know can can you is is there another way that you could demonstrate that you

808
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:11,240
have too much money tell us world of science Roger Arena yeah like no oh no

809
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:16,200
no no no tell no Science World goes beyond that so sponsoring Arenas that's

810
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:20,599
one thing that's that's like yeah we don't know what to do here's all the

811
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:26,200
money to name your Arena whatever it is uh tell us world the science they bought

812
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:30,000
it they own it what yeah so science

813
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:31,960
world is uh is a dome in Vancouver it's

814
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,400
really cool it's actually fantastic world after dark is like one of the

815
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:38,079
coolest things great place to take the kids great place to even go on a date

816
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:43,240
like they just have cool exhibits that are sciency and like Puzzles you can do

817
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,920
and I've done it before mle times me too um so science world's fantastic so tell

818
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:50,319
us act they were running out of money because it was publicly funded and you

819
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:54,599
know it's like anything cool not enough people go because everyone's too busy

820
00:58:52,079 --> 00:59:00,280
playing video games um so I've been like five six

821
00:58:57,599 --> 00:59:05,960
times so tell us one of our local Telos just bought the thing like okay whatever

822
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:09,599
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823
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824
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825
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826
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:25,119
weird and I I knew it was here like it it was prepped to be here and like if

827
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you wanted to eat the freaking banana you could eaten it before the so Dollar Shave Club sent us a second package

828
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because you can see that between me wasting all of our shave butter I

829
00:59:33,039 --> 00:59:38,799
actually really wish I hadn't wasted it it smells really nice and it's like kind

830
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of nice to use so between me wasting all of our shave butter Taran stealing one

831
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of the razor handles and someone else taking off with a pack of blades I'm not

832
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:53,720
even sure um they're not they're not in the Box anymore that was yeah maybe he

833
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asked you did he well I wasn't paying attention so Dollar Shave Club sent us a

834
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835
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packages look like once you sign up for the club but basically the way Dollar

836
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837
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838
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839
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first time you get a handle you get some blades and you get a pretty pretty

840
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spectacular shave they have multiple products so they've got everything from

841
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like for okay so here to put this in perspective for $6.50 you get a four blade razor um the

842
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843
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fantastic and even their most expensive offering is under $10 you're looking at

844
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the Canadian site right now cuz I'm Canadian and it automatically redirects

845
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:48,200
me but in the US the prices are actually slightly cheaper all they have to really

846
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say about themselves is look the blades

847
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848
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don't have to deal with the hassle of driving over to the store

849
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and dealing with you know fighting someone to open up the stupid

850
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compartment that contains the razor and going and getting the key I mean I don't

851
01:01:04,359 --> 01:01:11,440
know when the last time you tried to get service at a grocery store was but um

852
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:14,520
there's nobody there sorry I don't think I've ever actually try to get service at

853
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a grocery store in theory they have people like in the Cosmetics department

854
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where normally you would find um the Cosmetics Department I've seen people

855
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yeah so you can usually go get one of them to come and help you with the

856
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:32,720
shaving supplies but like see this is the fact that I can

857
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tell this story at at all addresses why

858
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the need for something like Dollar Shave Club exists where they deal with it for

859
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you every month you're going to get a new pack of blades so you can shave with

860
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861
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run out and you can get their one wipe Charlie's which are peppermint scented

862
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butt wipes for men and they're I mean I'm not going to I'm not going to sugarcoat this because trust me if you

863
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were to sugarcoat something that you wipe your butt with that granulation is

864
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,960
not going to be cool

865
01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:04,960
anyway sorry I'm not going to sugarcoat this basically they're premoistened toets that smell nice and just to help

866
01:02:02,839 --> 01:02:10,880
in terms of Effectiveness when you're trying to you know gather up the troops

867
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so to speak and have them not smell when

868
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:16,720
you're sitting next to people smell you know

869
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what my job isn't as easy as you might think it is I do it sometimes I know

870
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it's not that easy all I'm trying to say guys is head over to dollarshaveclub.com

871
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Lina sign up for the club get a great shave every day and don't worry about

872
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the hassle of buying razors anymore and I think that's all we have

873
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to say about that and are you really going to do this to

874
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me wow go along with your integration

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01:02:44,279 --> 01:02:54,799
sponsoring the WAN Show we are proudly using the ASUS g750 JZ gaming notebook

877
01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:56,920
for all of our wow needs and actually

878
01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:00,079
needs that go beyond the show since you messed up my last integration why don't

879
01:02:58,599 --> 01:03:05,400
you go ahead and talk about why you took the g750 JZ which happens to belong to

880
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:09,839
the company on on a personal trip with you what was exactly the point of that

881
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:15,880
well the the point was that I had to test out a Tegra Note so I had a phone I

882
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:19,960
had a Tegra Note and I had a laptop and part of my idea was if I needed to do

883
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:26,440
something what did I go to grab so I needed a laptop that being said I I

884
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:29,520
might own one um so basically decided

885
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:32,319
like oh well this one's pretty badass so

886
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:35,640
even though I have my own laptop that I just I haven't even seen that in a while

887
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,640
have you just junked it and just no I was using it for Network diagnosis okay

888
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:43,359
so you haven't just completely claimed this at this point although you

889
01:03:41,079 --> 01:03:46,640
basically tried to you know what's funny is when we first found out we were

890
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,440
getting these he didn't even know what the specs of the ones we were getting

891
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:54,359
were like no idea I'm just like yeah we're getting new ASUS gaming notebooks

892
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:57,520
and he's like oh uh we're getting them for Wow and I'm like yeah it's like oh

893
01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:02,720
well when we're done with wano I can replace my desktop with it right I'm

894
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,160
like a it was a gaming level notebook I

895
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:08,760
knew it was going to be faster than the desktop that I have which like I'm happy

896
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:17,160
if it doesn't CR it's not even that bad it's got a quad core yeah but like oh

897
01:04:12,359 --> 01:04:19,319
man crashes the point of the g750 JZ

898
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:22,599
it's not the lightest thing ever okay it's a little bit on the thicker side

899
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:27,559
it's a little bit on the heavier side it's not an Ultra Book but the point of

900
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:31,160
it is that it Del delivers pretty near a desktop grade experience out of a

901
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:35,880
notebook something that is actually portable and you know what I've actually observed like I've been running on

902
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:42,559
battery for the entire show here and compared to my Dell my XPS which ran out

903
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:44,640
of battery in 2 hours and 55 minutes or

904
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:48,599
something today I'm sitting with like 3 hours left of battery even though we've

905
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:53,640
been streaming for over an hour now and I've been using it without with battery

906
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:55,319
before the show so I mean I I like that

907
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:59,039
the thing I like about a large notebook is that can go ahead and put a big old

908
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:02,640
battery in it and the fact that the GPU is not even on when you're just doing

909
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:06,520
basic things with it means that you don't actually deal with that power loss

910
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:10,279
you know that right yeah I know but there's still technically it's a little

911
01:05:08,359 --> 01:05:16,119
bit it's not much these days it's not much I forget what the features Optimus

912
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,520
right that's awward I was like oh yeah I

913
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:21,160
don't remember what that's called anymore but the point is that it comes

914
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:27,039
with a gtx8 ADM which is about equivalent to a GTX 770 desktop GPU and

915
01:05:23,799 --> 01:05:28,400
it comes with a COR i7 4700 HQ which is

916
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:33,640
actually not really equivalent to anything um Intel's desktop CPUs are

917
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:37,680
faster but still in our testing we found that it kept up you know running

918
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:41,799
BioShock Infinite on Ultra Battlefield 4 all that stuff with a pretty reasonable

919
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:46,480
gaming desktop so that's all we have to say about that thank you Dollar Shave

920
01:05:43,799 --> 01:05:50,000
Club thank you for thank you ASUS for sponsoring the show remember guys if you

921
01:05:48,359 --> 01:05:54,480
want to join the club and get a great shave not like you you've just stopped

922
01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:58,039
shaving entirely haven't you well my Dollar Shave Club Razer had to be like

923
01:05:56,279 --> 01:06:02,799
borrowed for an integration and stuff and then oh that's why cuz I was saying

924
01:06:01,319 --> 01:06:08,359
because I knew at least two of them were missing and I was like oh one of the handles is back ew it has like stuff on

925
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:12,319
it is that you and then I probably don't really want it back okay well I'll I'll

926
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:17,000
give you one back again cuz cuz I I specifically asked them for a new one

927
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:20,160
for new to a birthday party on Saturday night so I'm going to have to grind my

928
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:25,680
face with my no take the take the razor jeez you're

929
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:30,400
killing me here anyway guys you can sign at dollarshaveclub.com and for the g750 JZ

930
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:33,279
I think you guys know where to buy notebooks there are lots of places to

931
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:40,680
buy notebooks like um the notebook.com is

932
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:44,440
that no that's probably not a thing I actually don't know that's probably for

933
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:48,000
the movie yeah I would think so let's see all right so we're going to go ahead

934
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:52,799
and have a look at whether people would be excited to see an apple SL beats

935
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:58,400
codeveloped product the uh overwhelming majority of you say no or maybe and the

936
01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:03,920
that's a pretty flat vote the underwhelming minority of you say yes

937
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:09,680
but then yeah so for most of you zero cares were given okay I get it but I

938
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:13,799
will objectively evaluate anything that comes out of that partnership before

939
01:07:11,799 --> 01:07:16,799
before the show was on he asked me about it and I said I I just can't really

940
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:19,880
bring myself to care very much and he's like well you should probably blah blah

941
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:24,079
blah blah blah and I was like yeah but it's from two companies that I'm not

942
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:28,200
ever going to buy anything from you will never buy anything from Apple

943
01:07:26,279 --> 01:07:33,760
probably not what if the eyewatch is fantastic but then I'd have to get that

944
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:36,400
whole ecosystem that's how Apple Works

945
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:40,279
really yeah it would have to be really legendary what if the iPhone 6 is

946
01:07:38,599 --> 01:07:43,799
fantastic it could be but if you look at the trending every single time that jobs

947
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:49,960
goes away every single he went away once

948
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,680
twice well he died yeah really that's

949
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:58,480
twice you're going to bring up Jobs's death I tried to do it lightly I

950
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:05,720
I tried to do it really lightly actually just didn't work at all all

951
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:07,520
right so semanex VP says antivirus is

952
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:13,039
dead this was posted on the Forum by nice hat along with some very amusing

953
01:08:11,079 --> 01:08:17,719
pictures this one's fantastic if you guys can't read it it's an anonymous

954
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:20,799
Facebook post my computer's being really slow I forgot it had a virus I'm just

955
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:26,159
going to shut it down and stop using it until it goes away text me and then it's

956
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:30,920
just like the most appropriate use of this guy

957
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:35,759
that I think I have ever seen yeah probably me too that's a really good

958
01:08:32,839 --> 01:08:40,759
picture that's fantastic and you know the it would it would be funnier if uh

959
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:45,600
if we didn't know people like that oh yeah yeah but I think we all do

960
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:48,920
so what's your take on this is antii well okay first of all we should

961
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:52,920
probably so basically uh what Brian Dy says so this a senior VI senior VP of

962
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:57,279
information securi we don't think of antivirus as a money maker anymore and

963
01:08:55,199 --> 01:09:04,199
that he points out that hackers are increasingly increasingly using novel

964
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:06,920
bugs as ways to gain control of a system

965
01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:11,640
or um gain information or whatever else it is that they're trying to do as

966
01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:14,000
opposed to straight up computer viruses

967
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:18,920
and Mr D estimates that antivirus now catches just 45% of cyber attacks I mean

968
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:25,560
we've known for quite some time that spyware or adwar were actually larger

969
01:09:22,480 --> 01:09:27,679
issues than traditional viruses but I I

970
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:31,920
guess I've just never heard it from someone at a company like sanch there's

971
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:35,600
another thing though like one I think one of the big problems here is where he

972
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:40,880
actually says we don't see it as a money maker in any way and I think that stands

973
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:44,480
out more than anything because almost everyone I know in the tech industry not

974
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:50,719
everyone but almost everyone I know in the tech industry is running a combination of antivirus software the

975
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:56,360
same one almost everybody they run Windows stock I don't even remember

976
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:58,440
Windows whatever Windows not Defender

977
01:09:56,360 --> 01:10:01,440
Security Essentials whatever Microsoft Security Essentials MSE there we go

978
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:04,560
Microsoft Security Essentials for Passive scanning of viruses because

979
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:08,000
there's a big difference between when it's just running constantly looking for

980
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:11,400
things and when you manually run it huge difference so I see most people that I

981
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,960
know are running that for kind of passive scanning and then once every one

982
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:22,280
once in a while this is a really good idea for a straw pole once every once in a while they will download and run mbam

983
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:25,920
or malware bites and then run it for its active scan the manual one remove

984
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:31,199
everything that it catch and then just uninstall it none of that

985
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:32,679
costs any money and the majority of

986
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:37,480
people that I know that even run antiviruses are doing that combo or just

987
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:41,800
MSE Microsoft Security Essentials not even the mbam once in a while um so I

988
01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:49,480
can totally see where they're talking about it not being a money maker um I'm surprised they're taking

989
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:51,040
the stance they are we going like with

990
01:10:49,480 --> 01:10:55,520
the fake data and all that kind of stuff considering that already exists with

991
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:59,840
honey pots like I don't see them propos anything that's really new these are all

992
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:04,560
things that already exist so I find that a little bit interesting um and I I

993
01:11:02,199 --> 01:11:07,840
don't think antivirus is unimportant I think it might be unimportant to certain

994
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:10,400
people yeah for the random Average Joe it's probably fine if you just pay

995
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:13,440
attention to what you're searching you don't click on anything super stupid

996
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:19,080
maybe you've been around on the internet for a really long time and you're really good at identifying download now buttons

997
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,360
at this point and you can read the URL at the bottom of your browser when

998
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:25,920
you're highlighting buttons to make sure you're not going to some ad and you're actually downloading what you want um

999
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:30,080
and stuff like that you're good with that and you kind of either run MSE or

1000
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:33,640
nothing and that's fine you're probably okay but at the corporate level I think

1001
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:37,120
it still really matters um when if someone gets into your network and

1002
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:41,760
deletes everything on your server it's catastrophic um I've done it work for

1003
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:46,679
some law firms way back in the day I don't do it anymore um but it was I

1004
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:51,040
thought you still did I do but I'm kind of just like outside support right okay

1005
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:54,600
and like if they have a question they'll email me but everything's automated now

1006
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:58,480
that I don't I used to go in there all the time because it was more like I was

1007
01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:02,159
taking over for someone else so I had to do a lot of stuff right and now it's

1008
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:06,760
more just like if they have a problem they'll call me in and every once in a while like every few months I'll go in

1009
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:11,760
for a while and like make sure everything's good like I'll go in for a whole Saturday right but it's not super

1010
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:16,320
common anymore so sorry you were talking about how you were doing that yeah so

1011
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:18,360
that the them huge really big deal they

1012
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:22,159
do a thing where I have it where one of their employees that somewhat techsavvy

1013
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:26,159
walks in and plugs in a cable once every week and it does a big backup to a

1014
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:30,520
computer plug in one cable unplugs another cable so it does a big backup to

1015
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:34,159
an offline server that's almost always offline so it's it could still get

1016
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:37,760
infected because you are plugging into a computer that is normally online right

1017
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:43,560
but it's probably not going to happen to the point where everything's going to be deleted right or if it is they have two

1018
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:46,360
servers and like they're they're both running different operating systems like

1019
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:49,400
there's there's a bunch of layers of security that's a really big deal

1020
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:53,920
because if they lose everything they're screwed right they also have offsite

1021
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:57,080
backups they have like multiple layers of security so that to be able to take

1022
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:03,000
them down you'd have to take down an off-site backup that's in the states two

1023
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:05,040
things onsite like Dropbox style not

1024
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:08,400
actually Dropbox but drop stop Dropbox style backups like all this kind of

1025
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:12,520
stuff it's not going to happen that's important um and then they run antivirus

1026
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:17,960
all over the place because it's important because their data is super important right is someone being able to

1027
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:22,840
see that I have 800 hours on mowind super important probably not right okay

1028
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:28,320
so I think it depends who you are well it looks like actually our our users are

1029
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:33,719
pretty um pretty pretty safe they practice safe safe internet browsing so

1030
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:38,960
30% of you are using realtime scanning and doing periodic cleanups with three

1031
01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:43,000
uh 12% of you doing periodic cleanups only about the same number doing

1032
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:47,880
real-time scanning only and about 11% of you using no antivirus with the majority

1033
01:13:45,639 --> 01:13:53,400
of the respondents or at least more than any of the other replies uh asking me to

1034
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:55,560
eat more banan it was hot um

1035
01:13:53,400 --> 01:14:01,520
unfortunately since a banan isn't a real thing I really can't do that so I I well

1036
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:05,199
I appreciate the uh I appreciate the the thought though that was great you guys

1037
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:13,840
are great okay so Intel's Sky Lake there

1038
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:15,880
have been some leaked documental mations

1039
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:22,600
this was posted on the Forum by querty Warrior the original article is from

1040
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:25,080
Tech PowerUp and um basically it's 100

1041
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:29,880
series it's going to be coming with DDR4 support it's going to be 14 nanm

1042
01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:35,400
processors and it's going to feature Alpine Ridge Thunderbolt running at 40

1043
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:38,920
gbit per second man that's fast I'm kind of

1044
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:43,679
surprised they're jumping into 100 series I see a lot of companies when

1045
01:14:41,159 --> 01:14:48,159
when they get to the top they just reset I'm okay with that yeah I don't

1046
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:51,719
really mind it's just I'm I'm saying I'm just kind of surprised I mean AMD

1047
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:57,600
switched over to an X but then Intel already has X whatever so yeah yeah what

1048
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:03,400
you going to do painted yourselves into that corner didn't you so basically

1049
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:07,880
compared to uh compared to uh Haswell Haswell refresh and Broadwell and to be

1050
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:14,159
clear guys Haswell refresh is not a significant change over Haswell it's

1051
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:17,280
just like slightly faster um sat Express

1052
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:19,800
has been added uh if you if you take the

1053
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:25,320
the the heat sink off of a z97 board it says Z87 rev 2 on it like it's not a big

1054
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:30,560
deal but uh Broadwell is going to be a small generational change or uh rather

1055
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:36,600
rather that'll be a significant generational change in terms of the manufacturing process and then beyond

1056
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:41,159
that that's when we're getting a new architecture so that'll be Sky Lake and

1057
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:44,960
that's coming in 2015 I'm actually curious to see when Broadwell is going

1058
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:49,639
to arrive I guess that could be coming very soon then huh I don't know Intel

1059
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:54,520
doesn't really tell me anything they just sort of like stuff arrives and I'm

1060
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:58,199
like Yay cool um let's let's like let's like check it out so it's going to have

1061
01:15:56,360 --> 01:16:01,480
a whole bunch of really cool stuff so they're going to have much improved

1062
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:06,920
Wireless they're going to have much improved Thunderbolt and they are also

1063
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:12,280
going to have hopefully much improved CPUs so this whole road map has been

1064
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:17,159
leaked I guess that's really all I have to say about that isn't it yeah there's

1065
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:22,280
there honestly there isn't a ton of information right now yeah so yeah take

1066
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:27,520
that and do whatever you want 2015 is exciting you know yeah even if it's late

1067
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:33,080
2015 I guess if we got like a very late 2014 Broadwell then a late 2015 Skylight

1068
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:36,600
could make sense yep and that's uh that's actually pretty in line with some

1069
01:16:34,639 --> 01:16:40,199
of the estimates we saw on that Thunderbolt 40 gbit per second article

1070
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:44,199
that came out a little while ago oh that makes sense yeah so the timing is

1071
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:47,560
probably about right now I I think we should straw pull this because something

1072
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:51,760
that you talked about before the show uh that had to do with kitaku the next

1073
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:57,639
article you're doing I want to see why people care or maybe uh Twitter Blitz

1074
01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:59,520
Twitter yeah okay so um there there was

1075
01:16:57,639 --> 01:17:04,760
a so this was posted on the Forum by top war gamer thank you very much for that

1076
01:17:01,719 --> 01:17:08,320
CEO Bobby KK has revealed that

1077
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:10,719
Activision is spending 500 million to

1078
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:14,960
try and make Destiny a hit that's half a billion which is a little less than

1079
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:20,600
double the unprecedented over quarter billion

1080
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:25,480
dollars that Rockstar paid to get GTA 5 made um there I saw quite a few people

1081
01:17:23,639 --> 01:17:31,320
attacking the article saying that because it's on Kotaku it's therefore uh

1082
01:17:28,679 --> 01:17:35,719
completely not credible and completely stupid but I would like to hear from I

1083
01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:40,360
would like to hear from our our users maybe uh I'll create a straw pull here

1084
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:45,040
pretty quick here guys and then uh is Kotaku because

1085
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:48,239
honestly a lot of the stuff I've read on there like no one's right 100% of the

1086
01:17:46,719 --> 01:17:53,280
time but a lot of the stuff I've read on there has turned out to be perfectly

1087
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:55,199
fine I I I have no idea it's possible

1088
01:17:53,280 --> 01:18:00,239
that we missed something yeah that's totally possible like was there a huge

1089
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:04,639
controversy like that whole I don't know uh what was it LA Times Tesla review

1090
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:08,880
thing I think it was the LA Times Tesla review Washington Post talking about

1091
01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:12,080
Oculus Washington Post Tesla review well uh I'm not sure there was someone I

1092
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:19,040
think it might have been more than one group actually for Tesla uh all New York Times sorry it was

1093
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:23,080
New York Times uh they eventually apologized for that and all that noise

1094
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:27,679
so so maybe they maybe Kotaku has done some stuff that neither of us is aware

1095
01:18:24,639 --> 01:18:31,639
of of yeah for sure yes

1096
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:31,639
no what's

1097
01:18:35,719 --> 01:18:42,800
Kotaku okay so I'm going to go ahead and allow multiple choices if you're going

1098
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:44,960
to have that on the poll no people have

1099
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:49,520
to pick one it's just going to be skewed now can you imagine if like political

1100
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:53,880
elections had multiple choices I would actually be more incentivized to vote me

1101
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:58,120
too actually cuz if I could just say I don't care have multiple choices they

1102
01:18:56,679 --> 01:19:01,880
should have multiple choices cuz you could be like I don't care but these

1103
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:06,280
ones like any one of these ones is okay because then you wouldn't have to worry

1104
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,639
about the vote getting split between and

1105
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:11,639
then that would probably help the whole two- party system thing anyways we probably shouldn't talk about politics

1106
01:19:10,679 --> 01:19:16,679
yeah we probably shouldn't talk about politics I'm sure there's a good reason that uh we don't allow multiple

1107
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:24,080
choice yeah I actually can't think of one but maybe it's because like the the

1108
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:29,159
real flaw in a multiple choice test for example is that someone can just guess

1109
01:19:26,639 --> 01:19:32,920
and still get a passing grade whereas on a political on an election ballot

1110
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:37,800
there's no right answer so it's inherently flawed multiple

1111
01:19:35,679 --> 01:19:42,880
choice doesn't address that by giving us the possibility to get it right maybe

1112
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:47,239
that's the issue what I'm just I'm just Mak it's like that doesn't make any

1113
01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:55,719
sense there's no it's called W show not

1114
01:19:53,719 --> 01:20:00,080
not W's show weekly analysis news and

1115
01:20:00,639 --> 01:20:06,960
sense I think with analysis people kind of assume that there's going to be some

1116
01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:11,320
amount of sense they could but they'd be I mean look at they're voting for

1117
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:15,159
bananas that's because you didn't put multiple choice on this poll I don't

1118
01:20:13,639 --> 01:20:18,360
have and you put a question I don't have to put anything on my PO you put a

1119
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:21,760
question mark I don't have to put anything on my poll that I don't want

1120
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,199
to wow let me make the

1121
01:20:28,440 --> 01:20:34,280
polls are you making a poll right now

1122
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:43,679
maybe no one will know they can't see my screen or what's behind my

1123
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:45,360
screen this show is the best this show

1124
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:49,639
speaking of things that are the best this is

1125
01:20:46,719 --> 01:20:55,320
fantastic fantastic posted on the Forum originally by uh

1126
01:20:53,120 --> 01:21:00,040
L3 MO black Moses that makes more sense post

1127
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:06,639
originally on the Forum by black Moses the smartest protest ever what do we got

1128
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:12,199
the smartest protest ever yeah am I in the wrong section right now no

1129
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:16,360
no fast L subscribers I thought we were in a different thing we're talking about

1130
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:20,360
net neutrality yeah but there's a total okay anyways there's two topics about

1131
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:22,960
net neutrality I thought you entered that one I thought you talking about

1132
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:26,040
this one yeah that is the one I was talking about where did that go oh that

1133
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:32,480
looked at the wrong article that's why I was like what okay this makes more sense

1134
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:37,480
okay so back to this okay go okay so what they're doing is well this web host

1135
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:40,280
and I think I think there's now a GitHub that has the code for it so other people

1136
01:21:39,199 --> 01:21:44,800
can implement it and all this kind of stuff um but what they're doing is they're making it so that different IPS

1137
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:52,360
that access their website that are from the FCC are getting incredibly slow

1138
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:55,040
traffic so like 28.8 dial up not even

1139
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:58,920
the fastest dialup that we had like dial up yeah so like if you try if FCC tries

1140
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:02,880
to access their website it'll go that slow um I think it's kind of cool and

1141
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,560
it's clever but I don't think it's going to matter unless like Google does it

1142
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:12,440
it's well it's not going to matter unless Google does it but it's not really the point the point is I I get it

1143
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:16,000
and it's cool and it it does drive a point and it's very interesting so it's

1144
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:20,719
it's the we've got the feni plan or fangi I can never remember I'm not a

1145
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:26,600
Star Trek guy the feni plan is a special FCC only internet plan that costs $1,000

1146
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:30,320
per year and removes the 28.8 kilobit per second modem throttle to the FCC we

1147
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:34,639
will happily take credit cards Bitcoin Dogecoin and Dogecoin from crooked FCC

1148
01:22:33,239 --> 01:22:39,440
Executives that probably have plenty of money from bribes on our donations page

1149
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:41,080
sorry we don't accept ltin them yet so

1150
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:46,199
obviously the whole thing is just purely a joke but the point is that net

1151
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:52,520
neutrality is important because it will prevent situations where an ISP can hold

1152
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:55,040
your internet connection or your the speed with which you can connect to

1153
01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:02,440
certain Serv Ransom unless you're willing to pay them more money for it and the problem with

1154
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:07,120
with them holding let's say let's say I'm I'm Luke's internet service provider

1155
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:12,480
and I go you know what Luke I probably don't like you we live in Canada you all

1156
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:14,159
suck well whatever man you're stuck here

1157
01:23:12,480 --> 01:23:19,120
what are you g to do leave leave Canada Canada's Great for all kinds of other reasons you can deal with crappy

1158
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:22,600
internet okay so look dude you play a lot of games you watch a lot of twitch

1159
01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:26,920
streams twitch streams man they use a lot of bandwidth that means we got to go

1160
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:30,080
buy like switches and crap and like you know those switches are really expensive

1161
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:34,800
look don't worry about that those switches are really expensive so we need

1162
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,920
you to give us some money to you know justify buy another football stadium

1163
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:41,800
because you're because you're a heavy user okay you're putting more of a load

1164
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:47,199
call Fat you're putting more of a load on our system that's a fat joke than the

1165
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:51,320
other users okay so the problem is that then Mr ISP gets to extract a bunch of

1166
01:23:49,719 --> 01:23:55,199
money from him because you go okay look if you want to access twitch fast we can

1167
01:23:53,719 --> 01:23:58,800
give you like a fast lane for that because otherwise in the background I

1168
01:23:57,159 --> 01:24:03,679
could be slowing down as twitch stream and we see this all the time you can go

1169
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:06,560
do a speed test tomorrow and it'll have like a great speed and then you go and

1170
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:10,560
try to load a YouTube video or watch a movie on Netflix and you've got this

1171
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:14,159
degraded internet experience so I'm I'm I'm telling Mr user I'm like look okay

1172
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:17,560
yeah you want fast twitch yeah sure no problem man just give us a couple more

1173
01:24:15,440 --> 01:24:20,800
bucks and then I'm going to turn around and I'm going to tell twitch hey you

1174
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:23,840
guys are putting a bunch of load on our network with all of our users

1175
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:28,600
downloading your streams you got to give us money to and so all of a sudden we

1176
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:32,520
create this situation where the isps can double dip and just take additional

1177
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:35,880
money to build infrastructure that they should have built in the first place

1178
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:40,920
which they got paid to build in the first place if you're in the states and

1179
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:43,040
two which they don't need they're so

1180
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:46,840
baller when when it's at the point where like the only people that are buying

1181
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:51,840
these stupid Investments which is putting your name in front of a sports

1182
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:54,600
Stadium they're all isps or like cell

1183
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:59,600
providers are you kidding me it's because they're just rolling in money

1184
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:02,440
it's super dumb they don't need any more

1185
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:05,639
money anyways I do like the protest though I think it's pretty cool I think

1186
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:12,040
it's fantastic I think it really makes a point to people who maybe just don't

1187
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:16,560
care enough maybe they just don't care enough to to look into it like I mean

1188
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:22,639
you know what let's all be honest with ourselves do you do 100% the best job

1189
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:28,840
you possibly can at work every day do you do 100% of the due diligence

1190
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:31,600
maybe a few of you do some of you this is a really awkward position for me

1191
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:36,159
right now probably don't I'm not asking you the point I'm not even creating a

1192
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:40,320
poll for this I'm just I'm just asking you guys to ask yourselves you know do

1193
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:46,360
you do whether your job is to dig ditches or to cook food or to serve food

1194
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:50,159
or to make internet videos or to drive a truck or whatever your job is there's

1195
01:25:48,119 --> 01:25:56,480
the thousands and thousands of jobs do you do it the best every day maybe not

1196
01:25:54,000 --> 01:26:00,199
so maybe maybe what we're what we just need to do is we need to wake up someone

1197
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:04,360
who's been asleep at the wheel a little bit and go hey can you create some Havoc

1198
01:26:02,679 --> 01:26:09,920
internally over there and like get some attention around this and this is the kind of protest that's does more than

1199
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:14,639
just create noise because emails are easy to ignore Facebook polls or

1200
01:26:12,719 --> 01:26:19,000
protests or whatever you just ignore that crap because it's just stupid it's

1201
01:26:16,679 --> 01:26:23,600
not relevant whereas when someone goes to access the internet and it's slow and

1202
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:27,199
they go oh why is it slow you're starting the

1203
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:30,960
the the inquisitive process I was going to say Inquisition that's not right

1204
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:35,719
you're starting the inquisitive process you're getting them wondering what's going on and once they understand what's

1205
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:41,400
going on hey well someone's slowing down my internet why are they doing that my internet should be fast right and then

1206
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:44,159
we can hope that the light bulb turns on so I really I thought this was a really

1207
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:49,000
effective way to get that point across and I hope it works yeah I know it is really cool

1208
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:54,199
actually um oh I wasn't even aware of this this is interesting uh there's

1209
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:57,360
apparently some new graphics card coming

1210
01:26:54,199 --> 01:27:00,199
power color oh yeah has a new Devil 13

1211
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:03,679
this one has um no it's post by brown ninja so I'm sure it'll be in the post

1212
01:27:01,719 --> 01:27:08,320
somewhere um but it has like the Nemo fin thing where the fan has the little

1213
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:13,119
fins in there is this that one let's go see yeah see the little tiny pins on the

1214
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:16,400
inside it also has four eight pin power connections four eight pin you'll see if

1215
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:21,760
you keep on going down there's the yeah I knew it'd be in here somewhere there

1216
01:27:18,159 --> 01:27:24,639
boom look at that

1217
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:30,040
boom it's just a monstrous card so they ditched the whole AO idea air cooled air

1218
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:34,679
cooled rather wow four eight pins triple slot four eight pins what the heck the

1219
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:38,480
thing is ridiculous only three of those four are required so if you want a

1220
01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:43,760
little bit of extra overclocking Headroom you can plug in the

1221
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:45,679
fourth and wow look at the back plate I

1222
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:52,520
like it it's actually pretty cool yeah looks badass yeah double 13

1223
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:57,280
huh someone in the comments somewhere on here I don't remember where it was was

1224
01:27:54,280 --> 01:28:01,440
like so one eight pin for the GPU and

1225
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:03,639
then one for each fan for

1226
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:06,920
each can't remember exactly how he said it but it was awesome them Nemo fans

1227
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:11,719
when you got little fins like that you got to like work it takes a full eight

1228
01:28:09,239 --> 01:28:15,920
pin for each one of those fans guys yeah get it right geez yeah that's kind

1229
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:20,600
of awesome should we jump into build logs um yeah sure I think that's pretty

1230
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:24,119
much it I think I'm I'm pretty much done for the week so here we go we have

1231
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:29,360
something really special after build vogs guys so do we yeah we do do I know

1232
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:33,719
about it I told you before the show that doesn't mean I

1233
01:28:30,719 --> 01:28:36,520
know so the first one is oh do I have

1234
01:28:33,719 --> 01:28:42,719
office on here I hope so I hope so too it looks fine oh I have some kind of

1235
01:28:39,639 --> 01:28:44,040
office oh I want to try it for a limited

1236
01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:51,000
time oh

1237
01:28:46,719 --> 01:28:53,639
no not good it looks fine though I think

1238
01:28:51,000 --> 01:29:00,960
wow all the tabs no one can see what's going on hey everyone hey guys sorry

1239
01:28:57,159 --> 01:29:04,800
where did it go it's here wow I'm

1240
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:07,800
tired there we go well it looks

1241
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,600
okay view either way every single time

1242
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:12,199
we do the build logs every single build log I talk about I'm like you should

1243
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:17,480
probably just go check it out the Forum so you can see everything so do that again check out these guys full build

1244
01:29:15,719 --> 01:29:21,760
logs where they have tons of pictures you can see everything about you can go to the voting thread and see everyone

1245
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:26,440
who submitted there's some guys that submitted that had really nice builds

1246
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,920
um the thing with having build logs per the week is there isn't enough and the

1247
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:32,320
thing with having build logs per the month is there's a lot of really awesome

1248
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,960
ones and they don't all get through so be sure to check out the voting thread

1249
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:42,280
because you can see everything this build is super clean the hard tubing

1250
01:29:39,639 --> 01:29:46,400
really really popular thing lately and I'm okay with that that looks fantastic

1251
01:29:45,239 --> 01:29:51,440
yeah very cool absolutely beautiful but I while

1252
01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:55,520
while this one is really nice and very clean I personally appreciate the next

1253
01:29:53,440 --> 01:30:00,800
one a little bit more more you know I haven't seen many great builds in the

1254
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:03,719
900d now that I think about it it's like yeah it's big and it's like liquid

1255
01:30:02,119 --> 01:30:07,320
cooling optimized but it almost seems like Corsair took the challenge out of

1256
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:11,760
it a little bit for people by making it too easy to do a great buildin so I

1257
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:15,920
think a lot of people were turned off by that that's just my perception it's also

1258
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:21,719
extremely big and really heavy yeah but uh this one this one's bad do the call

1259
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:27,480
thing oh sorry sorry sorry so this one is Portal Cube by

1260
01:30:25,719 --> 01:30:32,000
I don't know look at that that's fantastic it looks better if you see it

1261
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:37,840
not on the stream and not like converted in like 16 color mode yeah um so there's

1262
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:41,960
uh there's a power supply on the bottom there's ITX there and then you can go

1263
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:45,440
ahead and check out all of the different photos of it so we should probably post

1264
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:49,600
a link to the build log section I'm just going to track that down or if you want

1265
01:30:46,639 --> 01:30:52,679
to post gra if you jump on the next one on your screen I'll post the thing in

1266
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:57,719
the chat work on that sure we got an honorable mention here guys project

1267
01:30:55,000 --> 01:31:04,560
Affinity do you remember now nope this is the computer that people I believe

1268
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:06,960
built and distributed to lenois oh cool

1269
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:12,679
yeah so a bunch of people on The Forum I think it's a mainly people from the um

1270
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:15,600
unofficial TeamSpeak y all got together built this computer got him a whole

1271
01:31:14,119 --> 01:31:21,520
bunch of games this is a list of games that he got wow that's more games than I

1272
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:25,400
own no well it's more games than I play

1273
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:26,360
yes that is true and and like nice ones

1274
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:31,760
Battlefield 4 Star Citizen like big not just like oh

1275
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,560
we bought a humble Indy bundle like this oh my God they got them secret of the

1276
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:40,679
magic crystals that's a game about ponies um well yeah it is

1277
01:31:40,679 --> 01:31:47,280
lenoi so over 10 community members

1278
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:52,040
contributed and this is just a really cool a really cool example of the

1279
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:55,080
community coming together and supporting each other I mean if you guys aren't

1280
01:31:53,480 --> 01:32:02,119
already members of the lest Tech tips.com Forum you probably should be I

1281
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:04,679
mean this is just a small subset of like

1282
01:32:02,119 --> 01:32:09,560
the super cool guys and gals that make up the community here so you know we uh

1283
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:13,600
we appreciate everyone just being part of it we think it's really really

1284
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:16,760
awesome so I think uh that's probably all I have to say about that yeah what's

1285
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:21,719
up with this stuff I'm not going to do these today oh I this is a company Kito

1286
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:27,080
that uh they they asked if I wanted to review the Kito pop Andor the Kito

1287
01:32:25,239 --> 01:32:32,639
classic these are some SmartWatches that I think actually um are pretty unique

1288
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:38,880
and that particularly the pop tries to make the smartness like like by Design

1289
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:43,560
it's not that smart so instead of having a screen it's it's just an analog watch

1290
01:32:41,679 --> 01:32:46,880
instead of having a screen that's like blah blah blah read your text messages

1291
01:32:45,239 --> 01:32:52,800
reply to your text messages talking to your wrist um it just flashes hey that

1292
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:56,360
notification you got was uh text or it was an email or it was was an instant

1293
01:32:54,360 --> 01:33:02,520
messaging thing and it just tells you sort of what kind of notification it was

1294
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:05,880
and then the classic has an analog face and then it actually does go into a

1295
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:09,440
little bit more detail in terms of what types of messages you got so it gives

1296
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:13,600
you battery indication and then you can read your messages on it as well and it

1297
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:16,239
actually looks quite nice so I was like okay well I can't promise a review

1298
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:19,840
because I've never heard of you before and I don't know if it's any good but

1299
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:24,320
you know if it's fantastic I'll do a review and what I'll definitely do is try out the products and talk about them

1300
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:29,520
on the W show so that's going be coming sometime in the next week or two all

1301
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:31,320
right I think that's about it so okay so

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01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:41,560
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01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:49,960
available in the US Canada and in Australia so go ahead and do check that

1305
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:51,960
out and ASUS for wow really one of these

1306
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:56,239
days you know what when the sponsorship is over and I don't need that notebook

1307
01:33:54,199 --> 01:34:00,719
for you to use it anymore maybe I'll just break it no you're going to hold up

1308
01:33:59,119 --> 01:34:04,080
Jay-Z I'm going to be like this is what I think of Jay-Z actually I don't think

1309
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:07,480
anything negative about Jay-Z I'm sure he's a perfectly nice gentleman I mean

1310
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:12,600
this picture is he seems very friendly in that picture yeah he looks really friendly in that picture yeah I don't he

1311
01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:18,239
doesn't I don't know why anyone would be scared I wouldn't be no n not

1312
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:23,479
threatening at all I think we're done here