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Linus: Why don't we start with my first and perhaps most important question and that is 2 00:00:05.572 --> 00:00:07.173 Why? 3 00:00:07.574 --> 00:00:08.975 Bryan: After I get the screw in 4 00:00:08.975 --> 00:00:10.210 With the screwdriver from lttstore.com 5 00:00:12.312 --> 00:00:14.214 You know what, the screw's not going in 6 00:00:14.214 --> 00:00:15.215 We'll leave it 7 00:00:15.215 --> 00:00:17.217 Linus: Is it the fault of the screwdriver? 8 00:00:17.217 --> 00:00:19.219 Bryan: No, no, no, I think it's the fault of Linus 9 00:00:19.619 --> 00:00:20.720 Linus: What?! I did not- 10 00:00:21.221 --> 00:00:22.222 Bryan: I'll put it here 11 00:00:22.455 --> 00:00:24.190 Linus: I barely touched it 12 00:00:24.591 --> 00:00:25.558 Bryan: When I was working on this laptop 13 00:00:25.558 --> 00:00:30.864 I tried to bring everything that I knew into making something as thin and as light as possible 14 00:00:30.864 --> 00:00:33.867 While making like, you know, it looks like, you know, Zephyrus 15 00:00:33.867 --> 00:00:35.869 Linus: Sorry, you'll have to give a bit of a shorter answer 16 00:00:35.869 --> 00:00:38.171 Bryan: Alright, so.. How did- 17 00:00:38.171 --> 00:00:39.873 Linus: I would go from 18 00:00:39.873 --> 00:00:41.875 If you want to, you can do it on your own 19 00:00:41.875 --> 00:00:43.877 So I would probably go from 20 00:00:43.877 --> 00:00:47.881 So the goal was to take all those previous experiences and build one cohesive product 21 00:00:47.881 --> 00:00:49.883 It's kind of what it sounds like you're trying to say 22 00:00:49.883 --> 00:00:51.851 Bryan: Yes, alright, yeah 23 00:00:51.851 --> 00:00:53.853 So, I mean, that's a great question, Linus 24 00:00:54.154 --> 00:00:56.156 I think the laptop I made was really quite on a whim 25 00:00:56.156 --> 00:00:58.158 Linus: Oh no, everything up until there was really good 26 00:00:58.158 --> 00:01:00.660 I would just go, because you talked about the power delivery, the keyboard 27 00:01:00.660 --> 00:01:04.164 So it was really about 28 00:01:04.164 --> 00:01:06.166 taking all of those 29 00:01:06.166 --> 00:01:08.168 and bringing them together, or something like that 30 00:01:08.168 --> 00:01:09.636 Something along those lines 31 00:01:09.636 --> 00:01:11.905 Linus: No, no 32 00:01:12.572 --> 00:01:14.574 Mic him 33 00:01:14.574 --> 00:01:16.576 Andrew: He's coming, yeah, Alex: Okay, I guess I'm getting Mic'd 34 00:01:16.576 --> 00:01:17.811 Bryan: Hey, Alex 35 00:01:17.811 --> 00:01:18.978 Andrew: He's just going to hold it 36 00:01:18.978 --> 00:01:22.082 Alex: Oh my god, you nerd, here at least just 37 00:01:22.082 --> 00:01:23.817 There 38 00:01:23.817 --> 00:01:24.484 Okay 39 00:01:26.119 --> 00:01:26.986 Alex: Can I look at this? 40 00:01:26.986 --> 00:01:29.989 Linus: Here, check it out, yeah 41 00:01:29.989 --> 00:01:30.957 Here 42 00:01:32.225 --> 00:01:33.827 And what's cool, look at the bottom 43 00:01:35.829 --> 00:01:37.197 Alex! 44 00:01:40.834 --> 00:01:42.836 Alex: I know that the keyboard's modular 45 00:01:42.836 --> 00:01:45.572 I watched the video 46 00:01:45.572 --> 00:01:47.140 Linus: I forgot 47 00:01:47.140 --> 00:01:49.142 I skimmed the video, because as soon as I determined 48 00:01:49.142 --> 00:01:51.111 that it was super cool and we were going to have to bring him out 49 00:01:51.111 --> 00:01:53.113 I was like, okay, I don't want to learn anything else 50 00:01:53.113 --> 00:01:56.015 because I want him to show me 51 00:01:56.015 --> 00:01:58.017 So I got bamboozled 52 00:01:58.017 --> 00:01:59.953 It's paired to my laptop right now 53 00:01:59.953 --> 00:02:01.554 Alex: Oh, well it feels really good 54 00:02:01.554 --> 00:02:03.123 Linus: Right? 55 00:02:03.123 --> 00:02:05.125 I know, right? 56 00:02:05.125 --> 00:02:07.127 Alex: I was expecting to have to, like, not actually 57 00:02:07.127 --> 00:02:09.129 share my feelings about it 58 00:02:09.129 --> 00:02:10.196 Yeah, right? 59 00:02:10.196 --> 00:02:14.434 Bryan: The Cherry MX ultra-low profile is just like on the Alienware 17s 60 00:02:14.434 --> 00:02:15.368 Alex: Yeah, those are fantastic 61 00:02:15.368 --> 00:02:16.803 Linus: That explains why he likes it 62 00:02:16.803 --> 00:02:18.404 Alex: Those are some of my favorites 63 00:02:18.404 --> 00:02:21.541 Bryan: I saw your video reviewing the Cherry MX ELPs 64 00:02:21.541 --> 00:02:22.775 That's why I put them on here 65 00:02:22.775 --> 00:02:24.777 Alex: Oh yeah, great 66 00:02:26.112 --> 00:02:27.280 Alex: They're awesome Bryan: Spraypainted. 67 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.282 Linus: Guess how much this chassis cost him 68 00:02:30.250 --> 00:02:32.418 Alex: Well, I heard you talk about it a couple seconds ago 69 00:02:34.420 --> 00:02:35.889 Linus: You're taking away all the fun 70 00:02:35.889 --> 00:02:38.424 Alex: I mean, no, about $4,800 71 00:02:38.424 --> 00:02:39.826 Linus: Okay, stop 72 00:02:39.826 --> 00:02:41.528 Wait, that's not the number 73 00:02:42.428 --> 00:02:44.197 That's not the number, that's for something else 74 00:02:44.197 --> 00:02:45.565 Alex: Oh, is that for the whole thing? 75 00:02:45.565 --> 00:02:48.134 Linus: Oh yeah, okay, guess how much the chassis cost 76 00:02:48.134 --> 00:02:49.035 Alex: So just the chassis itself 77 00:02:49.035 --> 00:02:52.038 Linus: Yeah so it's the top piece here, do you want to show them the cab really quick? 78 00:02:52.038 --> 00:02:53.239 Bryan: There's three pieces 79 00:02:53.239 --> 00:02:54.240 There is the 80 00:02:58.144 --> 00:02:59.846 Alex: I guess, did you make it in China? 81 00:02:59.846 --> 00:03:01.247 Alex: I did, JLC 82 00:03:01.247 --> 00:03:03.950 If that adjusts your parameters 83 00:03:03.950 --> 00:03:06.419 I would probably have one less kidney 84 00:03:06.419 --> 00:03:08.421 if I made it in the US 85 00:03:08.421 --> 00:03:10.423 So I have the mid plate 86 00:03:10.423 --> 00:03:12.425 I have the bottom chassis 87 00:03:12.425 --> 00:03:13.626 And I have the top chassis 88 00:03:13.626 --> 00:03:14.894 It's slightly modified, as you can see 89 00:03:14.894 --> 00:03:16.896 It doesn't look exactly the same 90 00:03:16.896 --> 00:03:20.433 I did some free-handing 91 00:03:20.433 --> 00:03:22.435 Linus: Including anodization 92 00:03:22.435 --> 00:03:24.437 Bryan: The screws are spray painted 93 00:03:24.437 --> 00:03:26.439 Alex: $375 94 00:03:27.674 --> 00:03:28.441 Bryan: Yeah 95 00:03:28.441 --> 00:03:30.443 $400, $500 96 00:03:30.743 --> 00:03:34.414 Linus: Not far off, super cool okay, 97 00:03:34.414 --> 00:03:36.416 Anyway, any parting thoughts? 98 00:03:41.287 --> 00:03:42.589 Alex: The display looks great 99 00:03:42.589 --> 00:03:44.591 Linus: Yeah Bryan: Yeah, thank you 100 00:03:44.591 --> 00:03:46.326 I think what surprised me the most 101 00:03:46.326 --> 00:03:48.595 Was that as I was walking onto set 102 00:03:48.595 --> 00:03:50.597 Looking for my laptop for our intro 103 00:03:50.597 --> 00:03:52.765 I thought this was it 104 00:03:52.765 --> 00:03:53.933 Cause like 105 00:03:53.933 --> 00:03:55.935 Yeah, fair enough 106 00:03:58.538 --> 00:03:59.672 Alex: It's a laptop 107 00:03:59.672 --> 00:04:01.808 Linus: Yeah, it's a laptop alright 108 00:04:01.808 --> 00:04:03.643 Linus: Which you can't take for granted, ya’know? Alex: yeah! 109 00:04:07.146 --> 00:04:08.348 Very cool 110 00:04:08.348 --> 00:04:11.784 Linus: I haven't actually gotten a chance to look closely at the display yet Okay, did you need to go? 111 00:04:11.784 --> 00:04:13.086 Alex: Yep. Linus: You seem like you need to go 112 00:04:14.320 --> 00:04:16.122 Linus: Thank you, Alex 113 00:04:16.122 --> 00:04:18.124 Alex: Have fun Bryan: Thank you for coming, Alex 114 00:04:19.959 --> 00:04:21.961 Linus: Okay, here we can put this aside again 115 00:04:22.695 --> 00:04:23.396 Okay 116 00:04:23.396 --> 00:04:25.932 Wow, that display really is something 117 00:04:25.932 --> 00:04:27.300 Is that a glass trackpad? 118 00:04:27.300 --> 00:04:29.435 Bryan: It is, it's a 10 finger glass trackpad 119 00:04:29.702 --> 00:04:30.570 Linus: Wow 120 00:04:30.570 --> 00:04:31.804 David: Do the task, one thing at a time 121 00:04:31.804 --> 00:04:33.406 Linus: Do you know RF engineering? 122 00:04:33.406 --> 00:04:36.476 Bryan: Yeah, in previous years I've studied it 123 00:04:36.476 --> 00:04:37.143 Just by myself 124 00:04:37.143 --> 00:04:40.380 So I did the RF calculations for Bluetooth low energy 125 00:04:40.380 --> 00:04:42.782 On this antenna underneath the space bar 126 00:04:42.782 --> 00:04:44.784 So because the keyboard is actually plastic 127 00:04:44.784 --> 00:04:45.985 The chip is directly underneath 128 00:04:45.985 --> 00:04:47.820 If you press it in, you actually feel the chip there 129 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:49.522 Linus: Oh wow, okay, yes you can 130 00:04:49.522 --> 00:04:51.524 Bryan: So I wanted to make it as thin as possible 131 00:04:51.524 --> 00:04:53.092 So I literally just put it right under 132 00:04:53.092 --> 00:04:56.162 Because you're gonna be pressing roughly here so you know, make sacrificies 133 00:04:56.162 --> 00:04:57.397 Linus: Back to the Wi-Fi antenna 134 00:04:57.397 --> 00:04:59.799 Is there a reason that you didn't put it up in the bezel 135 00:04:59.799 --> 00:05:01.234 Like everyone else does 136 00:05:01.234 --> 00:05:02.235 Bryan: Yes, there is 137 00:05:02.235 --> 00:05:03.670 And the reason comes down to 138 00:05:03.670 --> 00:05:05.471 If you open it up, you know, very terrible 139 00:05:05.471 --> 00:05:07.774 Just take that right out 140 00:05:07.774 --> 00:05:10.243 All the wires go through 141 00:05:10.243 --> 00:05:13.379 This little port here 142 00:05:13.379 --> 00:05:16.182 So this hinge can only have enough space 143 00:05:16.182 --> 00:05:17.183 When I designed it 144 00:05:17.183 --> 00:05:19.519 To feed the embedded DisplayPort cable through 145 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:20.887 And nothing else 146 00:05:20.887 --> 00:05:22.088 I didn't really have the space to do so 147 00:05:22.088 --> 00:05:24.090 And from my past having done 148 00:05:24.090 --> 00:05:27.560 2.4GHz and 5GHz in RF engineering 149 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:30.563 It doesn't really matter if you're going through 150 00:05:30.563 --> 00:05:31.731 Metal that much 151 00:05:31.731 --> 00:05:32.899 As you can see if you still go on YouTube 152 00:05:32.899 --> 00:05:34.701 You still hit really good connectivity 153 00:05:34.701 --> 00:05:37.503 Linus: Okay, alright, okay, okay, okay 154 00:05:37.503 --> 00:05:39.205 Alright, let's see this display 155 00:05:39.205 --> 00:05:41.507 Man, that's incredible 156 00:05:41.507 --> 00:05:43.109 Let's talk about the trackpad 157 00:05:43.109 --> 00:05:45.945 This thing feels great 158 00:05:45.945 --> 00:05:46.779 Is this glass? 159 00:05:46.779 --> 00:05:48.314 Bryan: It is glass, glass topped 160 00:05:50.016 --> 00:05:52.018 Linus: Man, everyone should just use 161 00:05:52.018 --> 00:05:54.020 A trackpad with a glass top like this 162 00:05:54.020 --> 00:05:55.188 Support multi-touch? 163 00:05:55.188 --> 00:05:57.190 Bryan: It does, so if you do three fingers swipe, 164 00:05:58.024 --> 00:05:58.858 Side ways 165 00:05:58.858 --> 00:06:00.226 Linus: Hold on, I'm trying to scroll 166 00:06:00.626 --> 00:06:01.728 Hey, there it goes 167 00:06:01.728 --> 00:06:03.296 Bryan: The Wi-Fi is slower 168 00:06:03.296 --> 00:06:07.533 Linus: Well, I think that might have been down to your Rockchip processor 169 00:06:07.533 --> 00:06:08.601 Bryan: Maybe... 170 00:06:08.601 --> 00:06:10.670 Linus: Rockchip's come a long way though 171 00:06:10.670 --> 00:06:12.004 They've come a long way 172 00:06:12.004 --> 00:06:14.040 Seriously, compare their early stuff 173 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.909 It was just totally anemic and the pricing wasn't even that great 174 00:06:16.909 --> 00:06:19.445 Compared to like, dude, they've got stuff that actually 175 00:06:19.445 --> 00:06:21.114 Does stuff now 176 00:06:21.114 --> 00:06:23.116 Bryan: This plays Minecraft at 4K 60 177 00:06:23.116 --> 00:06:25.385 Oh, that definition's a bit vague 178 00:06:25.385 --> 00:06:27.387 Linus: Okay, I'm going to have to see that 179 00:06:27.387 --> 00:06:29.322 Okay, sorry, what gesture did you want me to do? 180 00:06:29.322 --> 00:06:31.090 Bryan: If you do three fingers like that 181 00:06:31.090 --> 00:06:31.758 Bryan: Like on a MacBook 182 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:34.460 Linus: Look at that 183 00:06:35.161 --> 00:06:36.562 Oh, I love it 184 00:06:36.562 --> 00:06:38.931 Fun fact, by the way, Linux had that s*** 185 00:06:38.931 --> 00:06:42.034 Like a decade before anyone else did 186 00:06:42.034 --> 00:06:44.036 Bryan: If you move it up 187 00:06:44.036 --> 00:06:45.037 It'll also do 188 00:06:45.037 --> 00:06:45.905 Yep, there it is 189 00:06:45.905 --> 00:06:48.641 I remember seeing this super cool 190 00:06:48.641 --> 00:06:50.810 3D accelerated desktop environment thing 191 00:06:50.810 --> 00:06:52.712 On Linux back in probably like 192 00:06:52.712 --> 00:06:54.947 2005 or 2006 193 00:06:54.947 --> 00:06:57.417 Or something where it had like this 194 00:06:57.417 --> 00:06:58.985 Animated cube 195 00:06:58.985 --> 00:07:01.521 That when you switched between your desktops 196 00:07:01.521 --> 00:07:03.055 It would like 197 00:07:03.055 --> 00:07:04.690 Go out and like spin 198 00:07:04.690 --> 00:07:06.426 And then come in and like 199 00:07:06.426 --> 00:07:08.961 It blew my mind because that was before like... 200 00:07:08.961 --> 00:07:10.696 That was before Microsoft even had 201 00:07:10.696 --> 00:07:11.764 Frickin' 202 00:07:12.231 --> 00:07:14.267 What was it called? The Vista thing 203 00:07:14.267 --> 00:07:16.102 Arrow, before Arrow 204 00:07:17.136 --> 00:07:18.171 Anyway 205 00:07:19.405 --> 00:07:21.073 So I'm going to be marveling at this again 206 00:07:21.073 --> 00:07:23.075 You can be like, hey, do you want to see the battery? 207 00:07:24.377 --> 00:07:26.012 Linus: Give me one second 208 00:07:26.012 --> 00:07:27.146 I have another board, but I don't know if I have one 209 00:07:28.781 --> 00:07:30.483 You know what, I don't think I have that board 210 00:07:30.483 --> 00:07:31.617 Cause it's so rare 211 00:07:31.617 --> 00:07:32.552 Linus: Nah this is fine 212 00:07:32.552 --> 00:07:34.053 This is thin 213 00:07:34.053 --> 00:07:36.756 Bryan: So this is the battery that actually goes onto the 214 00:07:36.756 --> 00:07:39.325 Linus: Dude, what? 215 00:07:39.325 --> 00:07:41.327 Bryan: It's only a millimeter thin 216 00:07:41.327 --> 00:07:42.495 Linus: No, I wouldn't 217 00:07:42.495 --> 00:07:43.362 Bryan: It’s okay 218 00:07:43.362 --> 00:07:44.397 Linus: No, it's not 219 00:07:44.397 --> 00:07:45.064 Bryan: Is it? 220 00:07:46.432 --> 00:07:48.134 Linus: No, it's not Bryan: For legal reasons no 221 00:07:48.134 --> 00:07:50.136 Yeah 222 00:07:51.337 --> 00:07:52.505 Don't encourage them to do bad things 223 00:07:52.505 --> 00:07:53.739 Bryan: Don't try this at home 224 00:07:54.874 --> 00:07:55.508 Linus: Or do 225 00:07:56.342 --> 00:07:57.310 Linus: I mean he did 226 00:07:57.310 --> 00:07:59.312 Bryan: They actually make this even thinner 227 00:07:59.312 --> 00:08:00.480 Bryan: The battery is actually a raw cell 228 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:02.982 There's no battery protection board as you see on other 229 00:08:02.982 --> 00:08:04.584 Linus: Yeah, that's why you shouldn't encourage people to bite it 230 00:08:04.584 --> 00:08:06.719 Bryan: Yeah, it's okay 231 00:08:06.719 --> 00:08:08.354 And you put them through 232 00:08:08.354 --> 00:08:10.089 I actually made a custom battery protection board 233 00:08:10.089 --> 00:08:11.691 That slots into this hole 234 00:08:11.691 --> 00:08:14.494 Otherwise, It's another one extra millimeter too thick 235 00:08:14.494 --> 00:08:16.496 And that would make the entire laptop an extra millimeter thick 236 00:08:16.496 --> 00:08:17.296 Linus: Right 237 00:08:17.296 --> 00:08:19.432 Bryan: So a lot of these things, I actually consider from the very start 238 00:08:19.432 --> 00:08:21.434 Like the heat pipe 239 00:08:21.434 --> 00:08:24.036 The silkscreen here, the anyon silkscreen 240 00:08:24.036 --> 00:08:25.471 That's where the heat pipe will go 241 00:08:25.471 --> 00:08:28.007 So I actually designed everything with everything else in mind 242 00:08:28.007 --> 00:08:29.308 As much as I could 243 00:08:29.308 --> 00:08:30.910 To minimize the profile of the laptop 244 00:08:30.910 --> 00:08:32.912 Otherwise it could have been this thick 245 00:08:32.912 --> 00:08:35.414 It would have been super easy, I could have done it in a month 246 00:08:35.414 --> 00:08:37.884 But the difficult part was trying to fit everything in 247 00:08:37.884 --> 00:08:40.019 Less than 18 millimeters 248 00:08:40.019 --> 00:08:42.021 Linus: With this out of the way, what's your next big project? 249 00:08:42.021 --> 00:08:45.358 Bryan: Yeah, so I have two projects that I'm trying to get to right now 250 00:08:45.358 --> 00:08:48.361 One is a super, super light mouse 251 00:08:48.361 --> 00:08:49.695 That doesn't have a battery 252 00:08:49.695 --> 00:08:50.863 And I'm going to leave it at that 253 00:08:50.863 --> 00:08:53.199 So it'll be super light, there's no battery, but it's wireless 254 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:55.668 And the second one is 255 00:08:55.668 --> 00:08:57.036 Linus: Can I guess? 256 00:08:59.438 --> 00:09:00.940 Two paths 257 00:09:00.940 --> 00:09:03.543 One path is a constant charging thing 258 00:09:03.543 --> 00:09:05.344 Like the powerplay 259 00:09:05.344 --> 00:09:07.013 That's the more obvious path though 260 00:09:07.013 --> 00:09:09.448 So I almost feel like you wouldn’t do that just because it's too obvious 261 00:09:09.448 --> 00:09:10.216 Bryan: You know me to well 262 00:09:10.216 --> 00:09:12.818 Linus: The second path would be 263 00:09:12.818 --> 00:09:14.587 There's a company called 264 00:09:16.522 --> 00:09:17.723 Shoot, what are they called? 265 00:09:17.723 --> 00:09:19.725 They're based in Israel 266 00:09:19.725 --> 00:09:21.227 But they do wireless power solution 267 00:09:21.227 --> 00:09:23.262 That actually uses microwaves 268 00:09:23.262 --> 00:09:24.363 To provide continuous power 269 00:09:24.363 --> 00:09:26.265 Even to moving objects 270 00:09:27.500 --> 00:09:28.935 That's my guess 271 00:09:30.703 --> 00:09:31.737 Bryan: You're close 272 00:09:31.737 --> 00:09:32.505 Close on the second one 273 00:09:32.505 --> 00:09:33.873 Linus: Close on the second one 274 00:09:33.873 --> 00:09:35.875 So it's not microwave 275 00:09:35.875 --> 00:09:37.577 It's some other wireless power transmission 276 00:09:37.577 --> 00:09:38.311 It is microwave 277 00:09:38.311 --> 00:09:41.247 Bryan: I don’t want to disclose I don’t want spoilers! 278 00:09:41.247 --> 00:09:42.348 Linus: Okay, no spoilers 279 00:09:42.348 --> 00:09:43.749 You'll have to subscribe to his channel 280 00:09:43.749 --> 00:09:44.450 What's the other one? 281 00:09:44.450 --> 00:09:46.352 Bryan: The other project is I'm going to make a second 282 00:09:46.352 --> 00:09:50.289 Hopefully in the future I'll get to making a second revision of the laptop 283 00:09:50.289 --> 00:09:51.891 I'm going to have a better chip 284 00:09:51.891 --> 00:09:53.025 Better everything 285 00:09:53.025 --> 00:09:55.795 And maybe get to making some kits 286 00:09:55.795 --> 00:09:58.464 I don't know, we'll see how it goes