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that's good form we've been doing that for a little while now people seem to appreciate it news
of Intel's 10th gen desktop cpus
sticking with 14 nanometer process it's gonna be uh code named comet lake s
which i think has been kind of leaked around a little bit already it's gonna
be up to ten physical cores up from eight on the current
gen flagship i9 9900k which i'm happy
i'm never gonna have to say again um and it looks like you might need an
upgrade to your motherboard because it's gonna need more power more and more TDP
increasing to around 125 watts on the top end
um it's expected to be called lga 1200.
what do you think it's another new socket already so many
sockets we've had so many sockets like i
mean come on it's just
uh come on yeah i think like it's
getting to the point where if you lined up on a wall all of your like Intel
sockets from the beginning just the amount that you would have would
actually be ridiculous have you tried to have like a collection of all of them like there was a there
were chinese boards that you could get that would work with like they were like
z170 and it worked fine with like the 9700k maybe i'm misremembering
i yeah there's there's some there's some there's been some funky
stuff like that a few separate times actually i enjoy those types of things
my favorite stuff is when they do that kind of i know it's not the exact same thing but when they do that kind of
stuff with graphics cards or they're like oh it's not supposed to
work this way or like ah here's two different two totally different graphics
cards we're gonna sell them to you at totally different price points and people are like oh i can just
i can make the lower end one better don't worry about it i don't know the
the latest leaks adding the latest like desktop 10 core like mainstream leaks
on to like all the other 10 core leaks plus the actual like 10 core launches
every like they're calling everything 10th gen but like there's two different
laptop parts and then we've got the high end desktop stuff coming
probably before this stuff in 2020 and the high-end
desktop stuff is going to be on x 299 so we'll probably keep that socket maybe at
least that was the update a couple of days ago that's linked in the bottom of
the the toms hardware article but like
these are all different like it's a big deal to port the memory controller the
lpddr4x memory controller like it's a big deal to port that from the newer
process to the older process cpus and Intel is telling their investors like no
no we're shipping 10 you know uh you know the 10th generation mobile cpus on
the new process everything is fine and then stuff like this comes out and it's
like well those aren't going to be on the new process why
why it doesn't make any sense
come on yeah the tom's article is actually
pretty good i like that they laid everything out here as well going all the way back to sky lake that was pretty
nice so you can see from sky lake kaby lake coffee lake coffee lake refresh and
comment like yeah i love that little refresh in there
and then it's been kind of interesting how max TDP on this side has been going
up consistently yeah well and it's also all lies because like
yeah nobody is using a 9900k at completely stock settings i mean that's
just crazy why why it's it's does it hurt you when
people get unlocked processors and then don't do anything with them i mean it's to the point where like all
the motherboard manufacturers have it as like one option like multi-core
enhancement or like you just turn that on and you get
free performance like why would you not do that
yeah and it's like actually pretty good these days i remember when they first
started doing those auto overclocking things some of them were kind of junk
but now they're actually quite decent at overclocking
your CPU so it's like yeah doing it manual is more fun but if
you don't want to press press the button hooray
really really simple really really simple performance and
that's what they're they're uh they're doing it for you at the factory now too
with the 9900 ks which should be out in a couple of months
uh so that'll be fun five gigahertz all core out of the box dang that's actually
pretty crazy i know um
i i think the the the hardest sell here right now is that Intel is not winning
like anything in the pr realm at the moment uh everybody's raw raw AMD as far
as i can really tell it's it's it's hard for Intel to stay on their feet pr wise
in in the CPU section at this exact point in time so coming out and telling
everyone that they're gonna have to upgrade their motherboards is a little scary i realize that they they they
can't also not do that because to push this they apparently need more TDP but
like ah
yeah you get wi-fi six support though well
i'm kind of excited for the x299 stuff which is probably going to come out
sooner because you know you may have up to 48 PCIe lanes for the leak from that and
that kind of stuff that that may be exciting but here's like uh there's a
there's more than just getting a new motherboard that's disappointing and one of those things is like memory support
so like the toms hardware article is like oh the new x299 cpus that are 10th
gen really i mean are they really 10th gen that attention uh are going to support
256 gigs of memory up from 128 and it's like well not so fast there tom
it's we're just now getting memory densities that will support 256 gigs
like technically threadripper will only do 128 gigs but then oh wait 32 gig
dimms yeah now they're 256 gigs is fine
there now too and it's not that the hardware changed it was always there
it's just nobody was making the dims to do that but if you had like a 79 like a
7960x you could use registered memory with
those like 512 gigabytes of memory was fine
and then Intel got wind of people actually using registered memory on
those cp i mean ecc didn't work but you could still use it you still got the capacity yeah they all got wind of
people doing that and they just they just turned it off and they were like no
and it's always been like that i was like no no really i'm running 512 gigs
of memory on this on this x99 CPU Intel
that is what you need to stop doing yeah so on these new processors if somebody
wants to run registered memory let them what does it hurt
what does it hurt but but are our product differentiation
no we need another segment we need to slice the eye and you know just it's a
little tiny it's like or you're going to have to buy xeon and it's like no or the
new mac pro it's like you got to buy the new mac you want 64 PCIe lanes from xeon
you got to buy the mac pro because otherwise you're only going to get like
48. just put your put your mac pro in your
server chassis don't worry about it it's fine
rack mount it are you interested in those at all
no i'm suspecting no yeah i didn't think so i just thought you
know i thought i'd ask uh it is really it is really interesting that they
didn't change the socket so um i think they use the quick path lanes
like apple i think was leaning on Intel i don't know there's no this is
completely unsubstantiated but it looked like Intel was kind of leaning on apple
or apple's leaning on Intel to have 64 PCIe lanes because if you look at the
way the PCIe layout is in the new mac it's actually kind of interesting
and you know the same server 3647 socket you
know where are you going to get the pins for that i think that they reused the
quick path like what you would normally have for the interconnect for a two-socket system i think they recycled
those into PCIe lanes because there's a legit only enough pins there for 48 PCIe
lanes so they got another you know a few
lanes to take it up to 64 PCIe lanes for Intel not having the capability to do
quick pack okay that's actually pretty interesting
i could be wrong about that but that's my suspicion yeah yeah yeah
it's really weird too because like these leaks say that the new high and desktop
processors are still going to be x299 but i figured they would just go ahead i
mean if they're doing the apple stuff they just go ahead and do 3647 on the
desktop unless they're having massive production problems and then it's like
well maybe we shouldn't do that which i i think they kind of are so
that's what they tell shareholders that's true that's fair yeah
who really knows though um
okay i want your thoughts on this one too and we might as well go over this
subject we're changing topics we're going to talk about uh study shows that
americans are waiting around three years to replace their phones now um that
that's the old like standard laptop replacement time that i used to expect
from people when i was selling computers when i was a teenager
so that's that's quite a bit up there compared to phones from back in the day
i know for a while there it was relatively common for people to swap out their phone every year
and it started creeping up my my kind of goal personally is usually two years how
often do you replace your phone uh probably about every 18 months give
or take but i'm physically very hard on
on my phones i mean i'm thinking about like the computational horsepower of
like the galaxy s8 and like using the galaxy s8 today
that's pushing white like two and a half years that's fine that's a i mean
it's totally okay there's not really like any super compelling features
um of a phone that would make you want to
to really switch which is sort of sort of crazy oh i hear a train
yeah yeah the train rips by every once in a while uh so 18 months but you think that's
like almost due to physical wear and tear more than ever yeah i think the
physical wear and tear is is for me it's more than functionality because um
i've got a i've got a burner phone that's an lg g5 and it's basically okay
i noticed that it's a little slow sometimes okay yeah
yeah i think that's similar to it from it do you run
cases do you have cases on your phone i don't remember if you did or not yeah okay
even with the cases you have a lot of physical wear and tear is that from dropping it or is that just from
just manhandling your phone yeah yeah
and no matter how careful i am with it i'll break it like this case isn't super
old but like the corners are already
really yeah yeah and uh i like pocket lint and stuff gets
in all the speaker drills and and then people are like what i can't hear you
and it's like oh i've got some lint in a tiny microphone haul
there's even for me like i know ben gate was a long time ago but
i tend to find that after a while most of my devices have some form of curve in
them yeah and like even my switch has a
little bit of a curve my my laptop is a little bit of a curve my phone
i think has a little bit of a curve and i'm just like this i don't know what i
do but whatever it is i'm slowly killing
everything one of the things that i think that we
might see in next-generation phones that people probably would like is the
ability to use it as more than just a phone like samsung has their dex stuff
that they've had i think since the s7 it's just usbc and then it you get HDMI
and usb peripherals and so like you can get a little dock and they were
like 200 yeah they're like 25
and you plug that in and that is actually a reasonable experience at this
point decks on like an s9 a galaxy s9 or
the uh the new s10 is not unlike a chromebook and it's not
a bad experience yeah it's it's
it's kind of interesting that phones are getting that fast and that fluid um and
that i guess for probably both of us because i would i would argue more or
less the same thing i'm starting to replace them because
the wear and tear in them is getting relatively high and i could swap the
battery and sometimes maybe i do but
uh the rest of the wear and tear on the system is so high that it kind of makes
sense to replace it every you said 18 months i'm going to go with
around two years for myself and i've even i've adopted a slightly
different strategy now which i've only done once but i'm planning on doing it this next
time around too when the this is the pixel 2 and i bought it
right around when the pixel 3 came out and when the pixel 4 comes out i'm
probably going to buy a pixel 3. oh yeah that's a good strategy they're they're
quite discounted if i get it fresh out of the box the battery's still pretty
good um there's no wear and tear on it and
it's just as fast as it needed to be i'm quite a power user on my phone but the
apps that i use are like the Floatplane app twitter
gmail youtube
like i'm not using super high performance applications i don't really
play games on my phone other than some pokemon go but like
whatever i don't know the hardest thing on my phone is like asking it to be a hot spot
and then destroying the battery and then up again and then destroying the battery
again yeah we're getting three an average of three charge cycles a day
you have me as a hot spot and you're doing something
fairly intensive on my system and you're plugging me in for power at the same
time this is brutal i'm running at a million degrees right
now yeah that's not great yeah
but can you imagine phones are modular i love the g5 like
the end of it pops off and you can replace the batteries so like i've
replaced the battery in it like twice and i still use it as a hotspot for the
network that it's on and for like that use case
it works great although uh one day a couple of weeks ago i was
using it and um it came unglued like the screen and
stuff just popped off and it's like oh it's probably time to get a new phone i
mean it's had a good run for like four years
what was like in like uh 2014 i think
there was some super popular with media
um project of like a modular phone
oh uh that was aggressively marginal sorry
kick started saying i think so yeah so that turns out it was a fraud
those guys didn't do anything literally nothing it was like it was
yeah it was completely completely fake phone blocks
yeah they or was that it no there was there was a fraud recently where some
guy was like look here's your little compute module and you put it in your
phone but you take it out and you put it in a tablet or you take it out and you put it a little laptop and it just okay
becomes whatever you need it was like complete fraud
okay yeah so phone blocks phone and then bloks
this looks like what i can put on my screen this is what i was talking about
and it looks exactly the same as it used to
our suggestion a phone that you can easily upgrade repair customize a modular phone
the bigger picture and then they like build the blocks into the back of a monitor or a laptop or whatever else
we are not building it there are other companies that are
simply have a look
the thing that i was talking about was
dragonfly future phone it was a great
future convertible dual screen notebook meant to dramatically simplify computing its
slingshot section was a seven inch Android phone with a stylus
there's only one part of the device and you could like it was modular and uh it
was like yes this is where we need to go with the future
and no oh geez they raised almost a million
dollars yeah canadian straight up fraud
yikes uh it's interesting that we're on the on
this topic let me
so this is you know a blast from the past this thing is ancient this is a
sharp czaris slc 860. this is from japan
and so this is a handheld computer so like think gpd before gpd was a thing
yeah yeah in japan it's got a compact flash slot and it's got a built-in
storage and an sd card slot as well and uh in japan you could get a cellular
compact flash card for this and use it as a phone and for messaging and as a
hotspot and all of the cool stuff and it's like
i don't know why but like this form factor has gone away
but it's also it the screen would turn around like a tablet and so you could
use it you know screen out or you could open it up and
clamshell it and it was fine it's a little bulky by modern standards but
i haven't seen a portable cellular yeah
device like that and i don't know why because i think there are a lot of people out there that would use it
yeah i think i think the um
something i noticed that was written in the doc i'm gonna i'm gonna loop around
to answer your question a little bit here is that uh
where is it
samsung and apple users still replace their phone more often than the rest of
the public about every year and a half this might
be might be a reflection of how those are viewed as more premium brands that
attract more enthusiasts as well i think
a lot of people even if they won't admit it
buy phones as fashion statements yeah
so i think that thing that you just showed while being super cool
is also kind of a brick yeah and not it might be it might be
interestingly fashionable within a certain crowd
you know what i mean but uh i think it's not like a standard fashion object and
like there's there's probably a higher percentage of people that are buying phones for enthusiast reasons in this
audience but i think across the spectrum there's
quite a few people that are like yeah i buy phones based on specs um and really
the spec that they're looking for is like the name
apple or samsung or whatever else
i know a lot of hipsters that are still rocking like the iphone 7 though
okay but that might also be because the apple stuff is just a complete
wasteland and an apple just
that might be it that that could be that could be part of the problem ah
of course you can get your new apple credit card now and apple will be more than happy to finance you that new
iphone 10 oh yeah no problem at all
maybe they'll give you a sleeve so they can protect it from you what are your thoughts on the we don't even have this
in the in the dock but what are your thoughts on the the fact that that card apparently gets stained from denim and
leather that's i mean could there be a more quintessentially
apple story i mean
it bends in your pocket you're holding the phone wrong it gets stained from the
things that you put it in it could i mean really because it's like
you know everybody's always on about apple engineering and like how much
thought apple puts into things and then stuff like that happens and it's like did you even do any testing like really
did you do any testing at all yeah i'm just bringing up the apple card
site right now what kind of heathen would put this card
in their leather wallet who even has leather wallets anymore no
we must everyone is carrying like that little clip thingy like this is how it's
done in a modern world you know wallets are out no one carries
a wallet it's a clip you need you need a money clip that's all you need
card is here
it's just it's so
i don't even understand because like okay i'm sure it's it's helpful in some
places but it's not like it doesn't um oh whoops there's twitch
um it doesn't have the numbers on it which is cool
for security reasons but then that to me
means that it's probably mostly a physical card
yeah because cards that people want to use for online they usually want to see
the numbers on it or they they put it in their phone or whatever but as far as my
understanding goes apple pay is or Android pay is like everywhere in the
states is it not am i wrong about this i don't
have firsthand experience this is anecdotal from other people it's
definitely not everywhere and in fact a lot of places are not even chip yet
which is so scary okay i did know the chip part i find that kind of hilarious
um i just that's so it's so weird to me um
that that's even a thing at all but yeah yeah it's it's just
i don't i mean the level of security dumb is just really bad
i think the apple app is supposed to generate
like one-time use credit card numbers which is part of the reasoning for not
having the uh not having the number on the card if you
need a thing you just go and you hit a button and it gives you a one-time use
credit card and that prevents your credit card number from being stolen in the first place and it's like oh it's
brilliant apple look they bought it through
they copied what was it privacy.com didn't they do that
yeah there's uh i think even discover has had
a one-time use credit card numbers for like five years but nobody likes
discover so no one noticed
i love that idea i always actually really like that this is not an ad for
privacy.com but i always really liked that concept i don't think you can do it
in canada i'm pretty sure privacy.com does not work for canadians so get
wrecked me but i always thought it was a cool idea for a service
um but yeah i find it kind of funny uh i
i don't personally like my wallet
the inside of it is fabric lined
it's not leather lined and someone was saying like oh you can't put in your purse and
i'm like i mean i don't have a ton of experience with purses but most purses
i've seen are not lined on the inside with leather
and most people that i know they said you can get it stained from denim most
people i know their pockets it's not denim it's a different type of
fabric so i think there's like a little bit maybe
overreaction i could i could but people are going to hate me for saying that but
i just think like it's probably not going to matter in most cases
i wonder like there is
there is something socially wrong with producing a card
that is built like as if it's going to last 50
years like apple is going to issue you your 50-year card that's going to last
50 years because it's made out of titanium and you know it's quality and it exudes
quality and it's just like this really amazing thing but in reality those
things have a lifetime of like three to five years they should they should be
disposable and recyclable and so like if apple is really doing what their mantra
says you know they're putting a lot of thought into it and making you know like
our genius leads to this simplicity then it
should be something disposable and just durable enough
and that's it yeah i um
i hear that for sure especially because you might lose it and stuff
part of me goes well if you can exchange the numbers all the time you don't
really need to expire the actual physical card yeah but the tech on the
card what if you made it soon we could like pop out the chip and pop in a new
one oh apple making something you can upgrade
i mean can you imagine apple pushing there were at the uh when uh AMD had the
epic server launch thing the flash memory summit thing was going on as well
and toshiba i think it was toshiba unveiled a new
uh NVMe interconnect that is very small and
very compact and it's like apple is in a position market wise to push
ic vendors into new packaging technologies that would allow things to
be modular like there's not enough room for dems anymore all right great let's
figure out a way to do socketed vga or let's figure out a way to do like
whatever toshiba was doing with this socket in NVMe why yeah why can't we do
that there's been some i've seen a few really
cool white papery kind of stuff about various NVMe drives that that could be
mounted in different ways and stuff and it's super cool i just think i
i don't know i do wonder every once in a while um
like if if steve jobs still was around what would we be seeing right now would
he be pushing for those kinds of things oh he'd just be laughing all the way to
the bank i don't know yeah he he could he could
be pushing these things he was kind of a fan of closed system in a lot of ways
um especially a little bit further back
but yeah i don't know it's it's interesting
next up sorry oh sorry one of the odm demos of that toshiba NVMe
was uh actually using the case of the laptop as a heatsink for the NVMe to get
better performance because it was so tiny compared to a regular NVMe and but they
were like look the case and retention mechanism for this is metal and conducts
heat so you just put a little thermal pad on there and
if it's like an aluminum unibody it's going to conduct that heat all you know
and it's not going to be uncomfortable it's only going to warm up by like two or three degrees c but that's enough to
sustain three gigabytes per second read and two and a half megabytes per second
right on something smaller than a postage stamp and it's like oh my gosh
these guys have invented a new modular interconnect this is going to be amazing
for future laptops and it's like wait shouldn't this be the kind of thing
why come on guys
what's next moving us on uh some facebook employees
were aware of the i'm sure you heard about this um you guys probably even
covered it the cambridge analytica shadiness
apparently should we not have done that
who knows um apparently they were aware of it all
the way back in 2015. oh wait you mean okay yes you should not have done that
i thought you meant was that wrong to cover it and i was like
news is confusing to me i never know what we should or shouldn't do uh
apparently sorry well zuckerberg's whole attitude with
that was like all right we got all this we got all these people's private information does
anybody have any idea how we can make a bunch of money with it and cambridge
analytica was like i don't know let us have the data and play with it he's like
oh sweet okay yeah sounds good although the story about cambridge
analytica's handling of the data uh in the run-up to 2016 u.s election didn't
break until 2018 recently published internal messages show that some
facebook employees knew that something was amiss
uh with cambridge analytica all the way back in september 2015.
um i like the one of the internal investigations from facebook was like
well this is worrisome but we can't find where they broke any rules
um okay
that doesn't mean you shouldn't stop things yeah i mean that's that was the gist
that i got this wasn't technically against the rules but
is this something we should discuss as a company at facebook or is this something
we should worry about and so i mean there
did the left hand know what the right hand was doing is it one of those situations where it's like maybe we
shouldn't do this but we can make a whole bunch of money there's a lot of industries that are
built that way it's like an industry will do something that is completely
amoral and then they will get you know cemented
in business-wise and then they will help erect laws that will make it so that
other companies can't do that yeah yeah
pretty epic i um i just hate this whole situation it's
all terrible i i'm not surprised people knew about it
almost always in one of these situations if if a news article comes out saying
someone knew about it or it doesn't it's still probably the exact same
conclusion someone probably knew about it
someone at one of these companies probably knew you could have assumed that before this article came out
someone someone has to know that facebook handed over all of that data to
some random analytical company was just like good luck um and and if that's happening it's
fairly easy to assume bad things would be happening with that data it's not
exactly a big jump and some people inside on facebook would have known that
so um it's it's also
not it's it's the same pattern
as has existed since any kind of industrialization it's like
ford knew that the pintos gas tank could burst into flames at the drop of a hat
but that you know how many people are gonna die as a result of that is it
worth recalling the entire line probably not a lot of people are gonna
die we can probably pay off the people that die from the you know the gas tank
that burst into flames so let's not bother recalling the gas tank it's kind
of like that but with people's privacy yeah yeah
yeah somebody even said here somebody had to transfer the data
and slash or give access to it yeah
and like almost any reasonable human being that's in that position is going
to go huh this is weird
right i don't know like it's it's interesting that this article came up i
just think it's it's no real new information if you if you think about
what happened in general no good goes unpunished
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holy cow that's amazing 50 off is pretty beefy
like the the discounts that madrina's gives is kind of nuts
it's fantastic the uh the thing that i decided i didn't want
to say during the sponsor spot was their um their whole
we're going to plant 10 trees for each disc plate
slowly replace the amazon
too soon yeah that's okay i'm gonna leave this
i don't know if that's the exact messaging they want but uh yeah that's a scary thing that's
going on sorry we had a drought here and it was just
like everything is dead and there was just there's no water and then it rained
torrentially yesterday and now everything just doesn't know what to do
yeah yeah um
in more fun things related to fire uh walmart is suing tesla over defective
solar panels
this is actually kind of impressive it's not their batteries it's the solar
panels yeah which is
i haven't personally heard of before well i've heard of battery units
connected to solar panel units lighting on fire
well it kind of can't be like it sounded well the report from walmart
said that there were there were cracks and poor electrical connections and like
improperly installed panels and so this could be like the panels are fine
but the army of contractors the tesla found because they're probably
uh it just sort of went really badly and one thing that i wondered was like are
these the same ingredients as like the solar uh roof
tiles that are supposed to be like solar shingles or whatever or is this some
other commercial product but i i would totally
believe that like if there was not a good electrical connection that that
would totally start a fire but then walmart was like let's shut it shut down
all the panels on all of our stores and another one caught fire
it's really weird apparently they had to like ask for them
to be shut down so maybe there was some mismanagement
there as well over 240 walmarts sorry oh we missed
that one yeah whoops over 240 walmarts have solar panels on
the roof from tesla but walmart says they've caught fire on top of as many as
seven stores um after a pattern of sorry that seems like
a lot that's a pretty high percentage that's a very high percentage i would like to see
where they all are because your contractor idea is very interesting to
me actually and if they're all in kind of a similar area
that could line up pretty well it's the same group of people walmart
says tesla's own inspections uncovered a litany of issues with the panels
including cracks loose connectors and incorrect grounding like wendell was
just saying uh the the lawsuit is for millions of dollars though the companies
have stated they're working together to try to solve the issue
not a good look for tesla as their position as a luxury brand for the
public obviously they don't want to have people thinking there might be shoddy workmanship
i'm pretty sure that tesla could just be like we'll put these in like 50 more
walmarts for free just hush up about it and we'll fix these problems with these
other ones and walmart we'll we'll say everything's fine totally good now it's
all this free electricity i mean so this this could totally be a negotiation
tactic because oh tesla seems hypersensitive to any kind of like pr
issue because they've got a madman at the helm
well and and also if tesla um not even sneezes
if tesla goes like there's 47 news articles written about
it like it's absolutely nuts the the amount of times you have like some crazy
car accident with a whole bunch of miscellaneous cars
involved and then like some tesla driver not an autopilot drives into a wall and
every automotive related thing and every mainstream news outlet all at the same
time is like tesla ran into a wall oh my god like
it's the the news surrounding them is absolutely bonkers so like i'm not
saying this is a good thing you had seven solar panels installation
catch on fire you screwed up pretty bad but like
i don't know this is a this is a deal between walmart
and tesla they're going to figure it out walmart's almost certainly going with
what you suggested which is some type of negotia negotiation play they probably
want free installations where they want free check-ups on all the different places which they should at the very
least have free checkups and some which is at the minimum what they're going for
um but knowing tesla they'll end up with free installations as well
because it seems like the relations are um
not i mean i imagine there's a they're high enough dollar value that it would
make sense to just put in cellular monitoring because like tesla is
connected at all times to the entire fleet to monitor everything and let's
say if they're bacon a bunch of times because somebody has come up with some crazy story that seemed plausible based
on the available information and then all of a sudden tesla trots out like the
black box recordings and video and just all kinds of other stuff and it's like
wow that's not creepy at all that my car is recording all of that at all times so
they could probably do that with the test with the solar installations as well
yeah i think um i mean there's probably people in twitch
chat freaking out because we're wrong about something but if it is external
contractors i would like to think that they would have some first party tesla
uh approval process where they like send
out a one to two person team just to check the install and make sure that
it's okay afterwards because finding things like cracked
panels and whatnot that should be pretty easy to do
like a cracked panel should never be installed yeah so
yeah i don't know are they cracked because somebody walked across the
installation because they had to get like we surrounded the air conditioners
with solar panels and then you know the compressor died and the crew had to get
to the compressor to replace it on the air conditioner it's like well maybe we shouldn't have put the solar panels in a
360 degree radius around here maybe we should have left the walk path
i don't know yeah planning goes a long way
a used solar panel shouldn't be used okay i don't know i don't think that
ever came up someone in chat tagged me and was like a used solar
panel shouldn't be used and i'm like
all right sounds good
um let me move down here
a little bit more did you do what are the news do we have
Android q does this interest you Android q google
is uh they're they're going with Android 10 instead of Android q is the is the
news they're breaking the trend of dessert themed names
i love how the notes in here say they could have gone with uh
one of the words suggested was quinoa i don't think that would work they they
generally go with dizzy dessert-based things come on john i know
you're looking at the dock right now um officially the reason is that people in
some parts of the world didn't understand the naming scheme due to
linguistic reasons or just not being familiar with certain
desserts which does kinda make sense um
the question that i have for you is is q the tenth letter of the alphabet
because i don't think it is
hey
i'd have to follow their uh their scheme for a little while but yeah
i i also if i ever have to find where a letter in the alphabet is i have to read
out the whole darn alphabet i'm one of those people so
uh they could have gone with quench gum i guess that's the only candy that i
could find that literally started with q it's not i mean oh for oreo they've not
that's not unprecedented but no yeah
i thought it was kind of surprising when they started uh
they started using branded things was it kitkat was that the first branded one
yeah i was like that's really weird actually and then they did
oreo later on and a few other things apparently there's a dessert from
luxembourg that starts with q the tech tech link to twitter posted it
out but then okay that actually lines up with what it said at the beginning of
this dock which was uh one of the reasons is it's being blocked due to
linguistic reasons or people just not knowing what certain desserts are if you
you and me both can't think of a dessert that starts with q and apparently
there's one from luxembourg randomly like
okay i don't know yeah
that's not nevermind i would like to see google turn Android
into a full like merge Android and chrome os and build a desktop operating
system or build something more toward a desktop Linux
oh more desktop Linux i um
i'm just going to stay on topic for a quick second and then i'll jump back to what you said um
i i think they could have just dropped the
alphabetizedness and just started calling it random desserts
yeah that would have been good like who cares if it's in alphabetical order just
call it i don't know ice they already have ice cream just call it something don't worry
about it but i wanna i want an Android klondike
yeah sure
i mean they went with the branded thing so like whatever
roll with it harder gummy bears yeah sweet
um but yeah i know i i agree having
what do they even call the desktop version right now
is it Android os chrome os chrome os chrome is right of
course um having that be beefed up would be pretty nice
yeah that'd be cool another option on the scene well there's crouton where you can like
run Android apps or run Linux apps under chrome
and there's like a new version of that but i haven't played with it but one of
the one of the guys i know was messing around with it and it looked it looked
pretty legit um but also chrome's ability to run
Android applications like that's fairly mature at this point and so that's
almost the promised land yeah
i um so give me one second i just had to
take care of that really quick oh my god
youtube listen to me i don't want to watch the ads there we
go i didn't want the audio for the youtube
ad to come through the stream and i kept pressing pause and it would
immediately unpause it and keep playing i was like no
stop i know you want your revenue but
this is also i'm watching my own channel so that's not supposed to happen anyways
stop it um
okay let's let's let's move on this one's fun just in the
internet of terrible things smart ovens
are starting to have a mind of their own uh the the june oven has been turning on
in the middle of the night and heating up to 400 degrees fahrenheit one user
left his potatoes in the oven to cool but they turned uh
it turned them black they end up being totally burnt
fantastic june ceo is blaming users for the issues
always a good stance to take saying that they're accidentally
activating the oven through the app
which is which is fantastic because apparently it's happening while people are sleeping
um it just i just i don't know i've i've
never it's
it should almost be illegal to pre-heat your oven through your phone
like in countries would like to go wrong yeah
but like in countries with government-funded fire
uh like fire halls
like i feel like this is just directly going to increase i i feel bad enough
when i when i do sous-vide remotely but i know i keep in mind that it like it
doesn't go over 100 degrees like it's not it's going to be relatively calm it's probably going
to be like a stick that's like 60 degrees it's probably okay
um well one fix is to add even more
internet of things things to monitor the internet of things things so that they
know what's happening so like if you get like your google smart home director
detects that the internet of things oven has come on at four o'clock in the
morning the advanced ai algorithm is like um that doesn't sound right because
you know our user does not work third shift so perhaps i should spam them with
lots of notifications on their phone to be like hey the oven is activated or the
ai can take it upon itself to deactivate the oven so that uh you know it doesn't
burn the house down and then a few years later from there we
have that same ai that's now pissed off because it's user keeps ignoring all of
its warnings turning on the oven when the user isn't home being like now the
user will never come home all my problems are solved
i think that we saw this future like the end of this future in the movie wall-e
like people just didn't know what's going on
yeah i just i thought that was ridiculous that was fun that was posted
uh our source for that was the verge the june smart oven is there any smart
anything that actually makes sense like
a lot of fridges now have us built-in screen
smart phones well i mean like appliances yeah yeah
i'm kidding i'm gonna buy a house when i buy a house it usually comes with some
of the appliances if not a lot of the appliances yeah and
am i gonna buy a house and have a 15 year old smart fridge that is basically
a security vulnerability nightmare that's probably already mining bitcoin
for some guy in russia i mean is that it's just out of the box
yeah you don't know
yeah no seriously i um it
none of it makes a lot of sense to me i do i do enjoy my sous vides
um and i do kind of like them being
somewhat smart devices just because
well mostly that so that's a june oven okay so it's a toaster oven um
i do like my my jewel being smartphone connected but that's just because it it
takes it doesn't get that hot so it's not that big of a deal
and the functions that it has a smart connect like you can't you can't tweet
from your jewel like you can't or you're uh so
when i say jewel all the younger people
i'm i'm that person now i think i'm saying the j-u-u-l smoking thing which i
still have never seen in in real life but um i'm talking j-o-u-l-e the
sous-vide kitchen appliance um if you have your your jewel it's going to take
a while to cook things and you probably pre-prepped everything that's going to
go in it so you you preheat it from your from your phone which it doesn't get
that hot so it doesn't really matter and then once it's preheated you just go
dunk your thing in and then you can monitor from your phone when it's going to be done and in some cases it's going
to be like three hours if you're cooking i believe a frozen chicken breast so like
it can be a while so being able to monitor it from your phone it's kind of cool and it doesn't get that hot so i
get that but with like some random toaster oven that can get to 400 degrees
and you can preheat it from your phone like that just that seems extremely
unnecessary that's where i store my manuscripts
perfect perfect that's the other thing is like if it's
if you have a smart connected devices device i i'm sure i can find some that
are legitimate although i can't really off the top of my head right now um the
scope seems to always be too much for me
like why does it do these things like there was a there was a story
recently of a of a girl who her her mom tried to ban her off of
twitter so she took her like laptop away or something
or her phone uh so she tweeted from her like d.s
and she took her ds away so she tweeted from the wii so she took her we away so
she tweeted from the fridge and i was like why why can you tweet from the
fridge like what oh man that's the world
we live in now but just like come on
that's ridiculous i am like i'm sure there's some use case where you have
like a private twitter account and just your family is able to follow that
twitter account and then you can like go on the fridge and be like i press the
milk button and it auto tweets out like hey mom give me some milk
like sure okay but there's gotta be easier ways to do that too
i don't know why i'm reminded of this but uh
when astrix you know the open source phone system thing was new yeah uh i set
up an asterisk system and
uh just for just for the lulls one of the extensions you could dial in this
corporate phone system would take you to play zork the text adventure
and it would be it would text-to-speech read you what was happening
the commands so it's like i'm pretty sure we can set it up so that you know
just touch tone phone dialing we can get twitter going
yeah probably i don't yeah i don't even think that would be that hard twitter's
so freaking simple oh man obviously like attachments and
stuff wouldn't work but uh there's a service for prisoners so
like prisoners are not allowed to have technology at least in the u.s i mean
you guys probably have like fancy resort prison in canada but
but in the us it's like most they're not allowed to really have that kind of technology but there's a service
that people on the outside can subscribe to and so like you
you add your own social media to it like the prisoner's family or whatever like
you know say you you know say you accidentally ran over somebody and
you're gonna go to jail for two or three years for manslaughter but you want to
keep in touch with the family but you know it's prison uh the service will
print your twitter feed and mail it
they'll have you know they get your they get your feed but in mail form once a week
oh man
that's that's actually wild
huh i kind of oh
that's a lot of do you get like a book well i mean it's not you know i mean i
guess if you subscribe to like a million people it would probably only be like first 10 pages but the idea is like if
you're taking pictures of your kids or you're like your spouse is in prison
and you're taking pictures of your of your kids or your family and you know your stuff's going on or making posts to
facebook like you know uh grandma's diabetes medicine went up
again then all that gets printed and mailed to a prison somewhere
and then they can just read it and they can reply by
mail like they can send a letter to the service and
you know oh my goodness prisoners have a limited
ability to send email though it's very limited
but they can send email i said uh physical mail snail mail oh yeah yeah
okay okay that's uh
that's really interesting i had i had no idea any of that stuff
existed i know i know next to those are my
discord notifications guys sorry about that um i don't know if i can
mute that give me one second
i should be able to oh no if i mute discord i mute you
that won't work okay let's not worry about it sorry about the discord notifications my dudes
next up in fun government things uh faa
asks citizens to please not stick weapons
on their drones
well that's not a problem for us here in the states because
uh i you know as a citizen of the great nation of you know
the united states of america if i want to manufacture my own firearms for my
own personal use that is my right under the second amendment
so like if i want to construct my own like if i want to hue from
raw metal and the sweat of my brow
you know a 1911 pistol that has no serial number or anything that is my
god-given right
yeah that's that's amazing so but this okay but this says that you get fined 25
grand for each violation yeah they're just it's like you're you
can't so you can't make booby traps is is
what they're flying this under as so like you
holding a weapon you making a weapon that's totally okay but you putting a weapon on a drone
that's not okay you're going to accidentally do something bad and before a lot of places have uh been
not getting any kind of rain or anything
the flame throwing drones that would be bad that would be a good
easy way to accidentally start a forest fire that no firefighter can actually
reach yeah they seem to be saying
was done in response to online videos showing drones with it does specifically
call it flamethrowers and it says guns attached to them and i guess that would
be would that is is there any laws i don't i'm not very up on american laws in
general but especially not their firearms stuff uh is there any laws
about like reckless use of a firearm yes lots yeah
lots of laws about reckless use of empire so i feel like attaching a gun to
a drone would probably fall under reckless use of a firearm whatever
that's actually called yes yeah there was a farm in texas that got
in trouble uh some ranch owner owned a couple of hundred acres and he had a
service where you could actually uh there was like a deer stand and you
could sign up and control a rifle on a turret and it was i
mean it's completely safe because it was like a live range but the deer would
come from the tree line you know into the range and you could shoot deer over
the internet that was frowned upon and so that's not a thing anymore but that
was totally basically okay
you could shoot real deer over the internet that's like the most intense
version of buck hunter ever i think in canada or not in canada in
alaska it's still okay to hunt like wolves and bears and stuff
from a helicopter from my helicopter
well okay isn't that that's totally okay for uh boars in texas right
i think so yeah probably yeah it's just
you gotta like you know not be reckless about it so it's gonna be those very
real you gotta not be reckless about your machine gun from your helicopter
very low population density those kind of things yeah that makes sense
that's uh that's fantastic if you do ever come visit we'll go to
the range you'll have a lot of fun i um my grandpa was was in the marines
and he's taken me to ranges basically every time i've seen
him for for quite a while um i'm not saying i wouldn't love to go
let's do i want to actually we were talking about this in the pre-show i want to come check out
your studio and everything so that would be fantastic
combination technology and guns are a
form of technology as it turns out yes
that's always a fun thing to bring up when it's like people are like uh this isn't tech news
and i'm like yeah are you sure
it probably is pretty much no matter what we're talking about it probably is
i think with that though we can probably conclude the show can you tell everyone
all the various places that they can find you uh
i'm i'm wendell from level one you could just google me it's fine
uh that's about all you need to do i'm i'm uh i'm at uh tekwendel on
twitter and level the number one text
tchs.com so there we go not a big deal cool
does youtube stuff does twittery stuff um and soon i guess we could say that
yes soon Floatplane stuff Floatplane level
one is coming to Floatplane so that's like we're what like
five at this point five or six uh
what six six i think six it'll be it'll be whoever wins
between you and uh he's he's signed whatever sounds good
you in science studio oh no actually like go live first
it turns out the Floatplane is actually a nice platform youtube
a little bit of a dumpster fire these days yes that's a win in my department
success oh man okay awesome yeah that's it for the show
guys thank you everyone for watching oh uh actually i'm gonna not forget here
real quick sorry i'm going to jump to
uh let's put something on screen that doesn't matter
and then jump here i just want to read off super chats oh yeah super chat
is there just the one i think there's just one that's amazing
thank you random citizen yeah i think it's because we skipped out
on reading them so many times in a row
we are so good at this
okay yeah uh gordy tech channel donated uh two pounds
and said uh turn turn wendell up
well thanks gordy tech channel i'll try to sit closer to the mic next time
deeply appreciated my man okay that's it thanks everyone for coming to the stream
uh i'll see you guys next time intro
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