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start start what

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and we're live y'all already saw the intro right

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yeah yeah sounds good actually i guess we have to run this again welcome to the

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show everything's working perfectly we're totally on time i've got wendell

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here from level one text who's just laughing at all of the failures um and

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we've got some great news including Intel's 10th generation desktop cpus

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hitting the market someday i don't know whatever i don't know whatever we'll

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talk about why that's a whatever later on uh study shows that americans are

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waiting three years to replace phones now which is considerably longer than before

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walmart is suing tesla over defective solar panels lighting on fire and other

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crazy stuff stay tuned for more rolling the intro

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disc plate pia

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and madrinas thank you very much for sponsoring the show i'm gonna move that

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back up and jump back here okay i think it's working now i think we're

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going to youtube we're definitely going to Floatplane and we're definitely going

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to twitch youtube sometimes takes a second to like

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let me check that it's actually live youtube's

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gonna buffer for about two minutes and then it's gonna kick on and start from

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the beginning yeah yeah absolutely

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okay well i'm not gonna worry about that this second our first topic which we're

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going to try to get the title topic out of the way first because i feel like

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that's good form we've been doing that for a little while now people seem to appreciate it news

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of Intel's 10th gen desktop cpus

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sticking with 14 nanometer process it's gonna be uh code named comet lake s

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which i think has been kind of leaked around a little bit already it's gonna

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be up to ten physical cores up from eight on the current

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gen flagship i9 9900k which i'm happy

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i'm never gonna have to say again um and it looks like you might need an

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upgrade to your motherboard because it's gonna need more power more and more TDP

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increasing to around 125 watts on the top end

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um it's expected to be called lga 1200.

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what do you think it's another new socket already so many

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sockets we've had so many sockets like i

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mean come on it's just

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uh come on yeah i think like it's

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getting to the point where if you lined up on a wall all of your like Intel

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sockets from the beginning just the amount that you would have would

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actually be ridiculous have you tried to have like a collection of all of them like there was a there

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were chinese boards that you could get that would work with like they were like

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z170 and it worked fine with like the 9700k maybe i'm misremembering

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i yeah there's there's some there's some there's been some funky

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stuff like that a few separate times actually i enjoy those types of things

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my favorite stuff is when they do that kind of i know it's not the exact same thing but when they do that kind of

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stuff with graphics cards or they're like oh it's not supposed to

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work this way or like ah here's two different two totally different graphics

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cards we're gonna sell them to you at totally different price points and people are like oh i can just

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i can make the lower end one better don't worry about it i don't know the

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the latest leaks adding the latest like desktop 10 core like mainstream leaks

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on to like all the other 10 core leaks plus the actual like 10 core launches

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every like they're calling everything 10th gen but like there's two different

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laptop parts and then we've got the high end desktop stuff coming

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probably before this stuff in 2020 and the high-end

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desktop stuff is going to be on x 299 so we'll probably keep that socket maybe at

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least that was the update a couple of days ago that's linked in the bottom of

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the the toms hardware article but like

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these are all different like it's a big deal to port the memory controller the

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lpddr4x memory controller like it's a big deal to port that from the newer

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process to the older process cpus and Intel is telling their investors like no

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no we're shipping 10 you know uh you know the 10th generation mobile cpus on

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the new process everything is fine and then stuff like this comes out and it's

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like well those aren't going to be on the new process why

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why it doesn't make any sense

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come on yeah the tom's article is actually

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pretty good i like that they laid everything out here as well going all the way back to sky lake that was pretty

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nice so you can see from sky lake kaby lake coffee lake coffee lake refresh and

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comment like yeah i love that little refresh in there

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and then it's been kind of interesting how max TDP on this side has been going

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up consistently yeah well and it's also all lies because like

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yeah nobody is using a 9900k at completely stock settings i mean that's

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just crazy why why it's it's does it hurt you when

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people get unlocked processors and then don't do anything with them i mean it's to the point where like all

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the motherboard manufacturers have it as like one option like multi-core

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enhancement or like you just turn that on and you get

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free performance like why would you not do that

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yeah and it's like actually pretty good these days i remember when they first

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started doing those auto overclocking things some of them were kind of junk

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but now they're actually quite decent at overclocking

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your CPU so it's like yeah doing it manual is more fun but if

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you don't want to press press the button hooray

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really really simple really really simple performance and

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that's what they're they're uh they're doing it for you at the factory now too

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with the 9900 ks which should be out in a couple of months

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uh so that'll be fun five gigahertz all core out of the box dang that's actually

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pretty crazy i know um

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i i think the the the hardest sell here right now is that Intel is not winning

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like anything in the pr realm at the moment uh everybody's raw raw AMD as far

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as i can really tell it's it's it's hard for Intel to stay on their feet pr wise

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in in the CPU section at this exact point in time so coming out and telling

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everyone that they're gonna have to upgrade their motherboards is a little scary i realize that they they they

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can't also not do that because to push this they apparently need more TDP but

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like ah

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yeah you get wi-fi six support though well

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i'm kind of excited for the x299 stuff which is probably going to come out

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sooner because you know you may have up to 48 PCIe lanes for the leak from that and

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that kind of stuff that that may be exciting but here's like uh there's a

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there's more than just getting a new motherboard that's disappointing and one of those things is like memory support

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so like the toms hardware article is like oh the new x299 cpus that are 10th

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gen really i mean are they really 10th gen that attention uh are going to support

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256 gigs of memory up from 128 and it's like well not so fast there tom

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it's we're just now getting memory densities that will support 256 gigs

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like technically threadripper will only do 128 gigs but then oh wait 32 gig

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dimms yeah now they're 256 gigs is fine

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there now too and it's not that the hardware changed it was always there

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it's just nobody was making the dims to do that but if you had like a 79 like a

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7960x you could use registered memory with

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those like 512 gigabytes of memory was fine

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and then Intel got wind of people actually using registered memory on

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those cp i mean ecc didn't work but you could still use it you still got the capacity yeah they all got wind of

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people doing that and they just they just turned it off and they were like no

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and it's always been like that i was like no no really i'm running 512 gigs

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of memory on this on this x99 CPU Intel

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that is what you need to stop doing yeah so on these new processors if somebody

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wants to run registered memory let them what does it hurt

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what does it hurt but but are our product differentiation

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no we need another segment we need to slice the eye and you know just it's a

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little tiny it's like or you're going to have to buy xeon and it's like no or the

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new mac pro it's like you got to buy the new mac you want 64 PCIe lanes from xeon

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you got to buy the mac pro because otherwise you're only going to get like

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48. just put your put your mac pro in your

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server chassis don't worry about it it's fine

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rack mount it are you interested in those at all

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no i'm suspecting no yeah i didn't think so i just thought you

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know i thought i'd ask uh it is really it is really interesting that they

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didn't change the socket so um i think they use the quick path lanes

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like apple i think was leaning on Intel i don't know there's no this is

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completely unsubstantiated but it looked like Intel was kind of leaning on apple

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or apple's leaning on Intel to have 64 PCIe lanes because if you look at the

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way the PCIe layout is in the new mac it's actually kind of interesting

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and you know the same server 3647 socket you

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know where are you going to get the pins for that i think that they reused the

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quick path like what you would normally have for the interconnect for a two-socket system i think they recycled

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those into PCIe lanes because there's a legit only enough pins there for 48 PCIe

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lanes so they got another you know a few

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lanes to take it up to 64 PCIe lanes for Intel not having the capability to do

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quick pack okay that's actually pretty interesting

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i could be wrong about that but that's my suspicion yeah yeah yeah

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it's really weird too because like these leaks say that the new high and desktop

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processors are still going to be x299 but i figured they would just go ahead i

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mean if they're doing the apple stuff they just go ahead and do 3647 on the

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desktop unless they're having massive production problems and then it's like

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well maybe we shouldn't do that which i i think they kind of are so

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that's what they tell shareholders that's true that's fair yeah

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who really knows though um

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okay i want your thoughts on this one too and we might as well go over this

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subject we're changing topics we're going to talk about uh study shows that

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americans are waiting around three years to replace their phones now um that

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that's the old like standard laptop replacement time that i used to expect

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from people when i was selling computers when i was a teenager

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so that's that's quite a bit up there compared to phones from back in the day

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i know for a while there it was relatively common for people to swap out their phone every year

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and it started creeping up my my kind of goal personally is usually two years how

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often do you replace your phone uh probably about every 18 months give

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or take but i'm physically very hard on

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on my phones i mean i'm thinking about like the computational horsepower of

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like the galaxy s8 and like using the galaxy s8 today

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that's pushing white like two and a half years that's fine that's a i mean

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it's totally okay there's not really like any super compelling features

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um of a phone that would make you want to

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to really switch which is sort of sort of crazy oh i hear a train

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yeah yeah the train rips by every once in a while uh so 18 months but you think that's

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like almost due to physical wear and tear more than ever yeah i think the

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physical wear and tear is is for me it's more than functionality because um

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i've got a i've got a burner phone that's an lg g5 and it's basically okay

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i noticed that it's a little slow sometimes okay yeah

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yeah i think that's similar to it from it do you run

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cases do you have cases on your phone i don't remember if you did or not yeah okay

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even with the cases you have a lot of physical wear and tear is that from dropping it or is that just from

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just manhandling your phone yeah yeah

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and no matter how careful i am with it i'll break it like this case isn't super

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old but like the corners are already

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really yeah yeah and uh i like pocket lint and stuff gets

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in all the speaker drills and and then people are like what i can't hear you

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and it's like oh i've got some lint in a tiny microphone haul

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there's even for me like i know ben gate was a long time ago but

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i tend to find that after a while most of my devices have some form of curve in

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them yeah and like even my switch has a

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little bit of a curve my my laptop is a little bit of a curve my phone

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i think has a little bit of a curve and i'm just like this i don't know what i

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do but whatever it is i'm slowly killing

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everything one of the things that i think that we

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might see in next-generation phones that people probably would like is the

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ability to use it as more than just a phone like samsung has their dex stuff

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that they've had i think since the s7 it's just usbc and then it you get HDMI

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and usb peripherals and so like you can get a little dock and they were

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like 200 yeah they're like 25

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and you plug that in and that is actually a reasonable experience at this

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point decks on like an s9 a galaxy s9 or

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the uh the new s10 is not unlike a chromebook and it's not

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a bad experience yeah it's it's

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it's kind of interesting that phones are getting that fast and that fluid um and

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that i guess for probably both of us because i would i would argue more or

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less the same thing i'm starting to replace them because

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the wear and tear in them is getting relatively high and i could swap the

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battery and sometimes maybe i do but

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uh the rest of the wear and tear on the system is so high that it kind of makes

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sense to replace it every you said 18 months i'm going to go with

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around two years for myself and i've even i've adopted a slightly

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different strategy now which i've only done once but i'm planning on doing it this next

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time around too when the this is the pixel 2 and i bought it

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right around when the pixel 3 came out and when the pixel 4 comes out i'm

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probably going to buy a pixel 3. oh yeah that's a good strategy they're they're

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quite discounted if i get it fresh out of the box the battery's still pretty

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good um there's no wear and tear on it and

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it's just as fast as it needed to be i'm quite a power user on my phone but the

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apps that i use are like the Floatplane app twitter

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gmail youtube

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like i'm not using super high performance applications i don't really

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play games on my phone other than some pokemon go but like

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whatever i don't know the hardest thing on my phone is like asking it to be a hot spot

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and then destroying the battery and then up again and then destroying the battery

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again yeah we're getting three an average of three charge cycles a day

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you have me as a hot spot and you're doing something

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fairly intensive on my system and you're plugging me in for power at the same

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time this is brutal i'm running at a million degrees right

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now yeah that's not great yeah

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but can you imagine phones are modular i love the g5 like

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the end of it pops off and you can replace the batteries so like i've

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replaced the battery in it like twice and i still use it as a hotspot for the

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network that it's on and for like that use case

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it works great although uh one day a couple of weeks ago i was

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using it and um it came unglued like the screen and

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stuff just popped off and it's like oh it's probably time to get a new phone i

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mean it's had a good run for like four years

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what was like in like uh 2014 i think

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there was some super popular with media

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um project of like a modular phone

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oh uh that was aggressively marginal sorry

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kick started saying i think so yeah so that turns out it was a fraud

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those guys didn't do anything literally nothing it was like it was

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yeah it was completely completely fake phone blocks

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yeah they or was that it no there was there was a fraud recently where some

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guy was like look here's your little compute module and you put it in your

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phone but you take it out and you put it in a tablet or you take it out and you put it a little laptop and it just okay

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becomes whatever you need it was like complete fraud

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okay yeah so phone blocks phone and then bloks

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this looks like what i can put on my screen this is what i was talking about

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and it looks exactly the same as it used to

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our suggestion a phone that you can easily upgrade repair customize a modular phone

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the bigger picture and then they like build the blocks into the back of a monitor or a laptop or whatever else

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we are not building it there are other companies that are

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simply have a look

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the thing that i was talking about was

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dragonfly future phone it was a great

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future convertible dual screen notebook meant to dramatically simplify computing its

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slingshot section was a seven inch Android phone with a stylus

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there's only one part of the device and you could like it was modular and uh it

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was like yes this is where we need to go with the future

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and no oh geez they raised almost a million

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dollars yeah canadian straight up fraud

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yikes uh it's interesting that we're on the on

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this topic let me

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so this is you know a blast from the past this thing is ancient this is a

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sharp czaris slc 860. this is from japan

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and so this is a handheld computer so like think gpd before gpd was a thing

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yeah yeah in japan it's got a compact flash slot and it's got a built-in

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storage and an sd card slot as well and uh in japan you could get a cellular

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compact flash card for this and use it as a phone and for messaging and as a

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hotspot and all of the cool stuff and it's like

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i don't know why but like this form factor has gone away

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but it's also it the screen would turn around like a tablet and so you could

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use it you know screen out or you could open it up and

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clamshell it and it was fine it's a little bulky by modern standards but

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i haven't seen a portable cellular yeah

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device like that and i don't know why because i think there are a lot of people out there that would use it

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yeah i think i think the um

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something i noticed that was written in the doc i'm gonna i'm gonna loop around

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to answer your question a little bit here is that uh

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where is it

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samsung and apple users still replace their phone more often than the rest of

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the public about every year and a half this might

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be might be a reflection of how those are viewed as more premium brands that

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attract more enthusiasts as well i think

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a lot of people even if they won't admit it

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buy phones as fashion statements yeah

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so i think that thing that you just showed while being super cool

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is also kind of a brick yeah and not it might be it might be

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interestingly fashionable within a certain crowd

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you know what i mean but uh i think it's not like a standard fashion object and

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like there's there's probably a higher percentage of people that are buying phones for enthusiast reasons in this

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audience but i think across the spectrum there's

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quite a few people that are like yeah i buy phones based on specs um and really

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the spec that they're looking for is like the name

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apple or samsung or whatever else

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i know a lot of hipsters that are still rocking like the iphone 7 though

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okay but that might also be because the apple stuff is just a complete

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wasteland and an apple just

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that might be it that that could be that could be part of the problem ah

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of course you can get your new apple credit card now and apple will be more than happy to finance you that new

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iphone 10 oh yeah no problem at all

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maybe they'll give you a sleeve so they can protect it from you what are your thoughts on the we don't even have this

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in the in the dock but what are your thoughts on the the fact that that card apparently gets stained from denim and

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leather that's i mean could there be a more quintessentially

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apple story i mean

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it bends in your pocket you're holding the phone wrong it gets stained from the

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things that you put it in it could i mean really because it's like

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you know everybody's always on about apple engineering and like how much

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thought apple puts into things and then stuff like that happens and it's like did you even do any testing like really

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did you do any testing at all yeah i'm just bringing up the apple card

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site right now what kind of heathen would put this card

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in their leather wallet who even has leather wallets anymore no

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we must everyone is carrying like that little clip thingy like this is how it's

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done in a modern world you know wallets are out no one carries

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a wallet it's a clip you need you need a money clip that's all you need

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card is here

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it's just it's so

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i don't even understand because like okay i'm sure it's it's helpful in some

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places but it's not like it doesn't um oh whoops there's twitch

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um it doesn't have the numbers on it which is cool

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for security reasons but then that to me

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means that it's probably mostly a physical card

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yeah because cards that people want to use for online they usually want to see

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the numbers on it or they they put it in their phone or whatever but as far as my

00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:06.159
understanding goes apple pay is or Android pay is like everywhere in the

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states is it not am i wrong about this i don't

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have firsthand experience this is anecdotal from other people it's

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definitely not everywhere and in fact a lot of places are not even chip yet

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which is so scary okay i did know the chip part i find that kind of hilarious

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um i just that's so it's so weird to me um

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that that's even a thing at all but yeah yeah it's it's just

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i don't i mean the level of security dumb is just really bad

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i think the apple app is supposed to generate

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like one-time use credit card numbers which is part of the reasoning for not

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having the uh not having the number on the card if you

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need a thing you just go and you hit a button and it gives you a one-time use

00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:54.880
credit card and that prevents your credit card number from being stolen in the first place and it's like oh it's

00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:58.559
brilliant apple look they bought it through

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they copied what was it privacy.com didn't they do that

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yeah there's uh i think even discover has had

00:23:03.360 --> 00:23:10.720
a one-time use credit card numbers for like five years but nobody likes

00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.720
discover so no one noticed

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i love that idea i always actually really like that this is not an ad for

00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:20.240
privacy.com but i always really liked that concept i don't think you can do it

00:23:18.080 --> 00:23:24.080
in canada i'm pretty sure privacy.com does not work for canadians so get

00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:30.000
wrecked me but i always thought it was a cool idea for a service

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um but yeah i find it kind of funny uh i

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i don't personally like my wallet

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the inside of it is fabric lined

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it's not leather lined and someone was saying like oh you can't put in your purse and

00:23:41.120 --> 00:23:46.320
i'm like i mean i don't have a ton of experience with purses but most purses

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i've seen are not lined on the inside with leather

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and most people that i know they said you can get it stained from denim most

00:23:51.120 --> 00:23:57.520
people i know their pockets it's not denim it's a different type of

00:23:55.520 --> 00:24:01.360
fabric so i think there's like a little bit maybe

00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:04.799
overreaction i could i could but people are going to hate me for saying that but

00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:09.120
i just think like it's probably not going to matter in most cases

00:24:07.520 --> 00:24:13.440
i wonder like there is

00:24:11.120 --> 00:24:18.400
there is something socially wrong with producing a card

00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:22.720
that is built like as if it's going to last 50

00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:26.159
years like apple is going to issue you your 50-year card that's going to last

00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:31.360
50 years because it's made out of titanium and you know it's quality and it exudes

00:24:30.080 --> 00:24:35.360
quality and it's just like this really amazing thing but in reality those

00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:39.679
things have a lifetime of like three to five years they should they should be

00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:42.400
disposable and recyclable and so like if apple is really doing what their mantra

00:24:41.360 --> 00:24:45.760
says you know they're putting a lot of thought into it and making you know like

00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:51.279
our genius leads to this simplicity then it

00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:55.039
should be something disposable and just durable enough

00:24:53.600 --> 00:24:57.919
and that's it yeah i um

00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:06.159
i hear that for sure especially because you might lose it and stuff

00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:09.440
part of me goes well if you can exchange the numbers all the time you don't

00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:15.679
really need to expire the actual physical card yeah but the tech on the

00:25:12.840 --> 00:25:19.360
card what if you made it soon we could like pop out the chip and pop in a new

00:25:17.360 --> 00:25:22.880
one oh apple making something you can upgrade

00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:30.400
i mean can you imagine apple pushing there were at the uh when uh AMD had the

00:25:27.840 --> 00:25:36.080
epic server launch thing the flash memory summit thing was going on as well

00:25:33.840 --> 00:25:38.960
and toshiba i think it was toshiba unveiled a new

00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:43.840
uh NVMe interconnect that is very small and

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:50.159
very compact and it's like apple is in a position market wise to push

00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:54.320
ic vendors into new packaging technologies that would allow things to

00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:58.880
be modular like there's not enough room for dems anymore all right great let's

00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:02.480
figure out a way to do socketed vga or let's figure out a way to do like

00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:07.520
whatever toshiba was doing with this socket in NVMe why yeah why can't we do

00:26:05.919 --> 00:26:12.240
that there's been some i've seen a few really

00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:16.880
cool white papery kind of stuff about various NVMe drives that that could be

00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:23.039
mounted in different ways and stuff and it's super cool i just think i

00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:26.080
i don't know i do wonder every once in a while um

00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:33.679
like if if steve jobs still was around what would we be seeing right now would

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.840
he be pushing for those kinds of things oh he'd just be laughing all the way to

00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:42.159
the bank i don't know yeah he he could he could

00:26:40.159 --> 00:26:46.400
be pushing these things he was kind of a fan of closed system in a lot of ways

00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:49.120
um especially a little bit further back

00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:54.080
but yeah i don't know it's it's interesting

00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:58.880
next up sorry oh sorry one of the odm demos of that toshiba NVMe

00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:02.640
was uh actually using the case of the laptop as a heatsink for the NVMe to get

00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:07.520
better performance because it was so tiny compared to a regular NVMe and but they

00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:11.440
were like look the case and retention mechanism for this is metal and conducts

00:27:09.360 --> 00:27:15.200
heat so you just put a little thermal pad on there and

00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:18.000
if it's like an aluminum unibody it's going to conduct that heat all you know

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:23.840
and it's not going to be uncomfortable it's only going to warm up by like two or three degrees c but that's enough to

00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:27.679
sustain three gigabytes per second read and two and a half megabytes per second

00:27:25.600 --> 00:27:32.400
right on something smaller than a postage stamp and it's like oh my gosh

00:27:30.320 --> 00:27:36.799
these guys have invented a new modular interconnect this is going to be amazing

00:27:34.320 --> 00:27:43.440
for future laptops and it's like wait shouldn't this be the kind of thing

00:27:39.919 --> 00:27:43.440
why come on guys

00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:49.520
what's next moving us on uh some facebook employees

00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:53.520
were aware of the i'm sure you heard about this um you guys probably even

00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:58.880
covered it the cambridge analytica shadiness

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.880
apparently should we not have done that

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:05.200
who knows um apparently they were aware of it all

00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:09.440
the way back in 2015. oh wait you mean okay yes you should not have done that

00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.480
i thought you meant was that wrong to cover it and i was like

00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:18.000
news is confusing to me i never know what we should or shouldn't do uh

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:20.960
apparently sorry well zuckerberg's whole attitude with

00:28:19.600 --> 00:28:26.559
that was like all right we got all this we got all these people's private information does

00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:29.200
anybody have any idea how we can make a bunch of money with it and cambridge

00:28:27.919 --> 00:28:32.640
analytica was like i don't know let us have the data and play with it he's like

00:28:33.679 --> 00:28:40.399
oh sweet okay yeah sounds good although the story about cambridge

00:28:37.520 --> 00:28:45.679
analytica's handling of the data uh in the run-up to 2016 u.s election didn't

00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:49.200
break until 2018 recently published internal messages show that some

00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:52.240
facebook employees knew that something was amiss

00:28:50.399 --> 00:28:57.840
uh with cambridge analytica all the way back in september 2015.

00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:02.080
um i like the one of the internal investigations from facebook was like

00:28:59.919 --> 00:29:05.440
well this is worrisome but we can't find where they broke any rules

00:29:05.600 --> 00:29:10.559
um okay

00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:14.559
that doesn't mean you shouldn't stop things yeah i mean that's that was the gist

00:29:13.039 --> 00:29:18.720
that i got this wasn't technically against the rules but

00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:23.360
is this something we should discuss as a company at facebook or is this something

00:29:21.120 --> 00:29:26.399
we should worry about and so i mean there

00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:31.039
did the left hand know what the right hand was doing is it one of those situations where it's like maybe we

00:29:29.840 --> 00:29:35.840
shouldn't do this but we can make a whole bunch of money there's a lot of industries that are

00:29:33.679 --> 00:29:39.120
built that way it's like an industry will do something that is completely

00:29:37.679 --> 00:29:44.480
amoral and then they will get you know cemented

00:29:42.159 --> 00:29:50.159
in business-wise and then they will help erect laws that will make it so that

00:29:46.320 --> 00:29:53.039
other companies can't do that yeah yeah

00:29:50.159 --> 00:29:57.279
pretty epic i um i just hate this whole situation it's

00:29:55.039 --> 00:30:01.120
all terrible i i'm not surprised people knew about it

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:05.520
almost always in one of these situations if if a news article comes out saying

00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:09.279
someone knew about it or it doesn't it's still probably the exact same

00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:11.600
conclusion someone probably knew about it

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:18.159
someone at one of these companies probably knew you could have assumed that before this article came out

00:30:16.080 --> 00:30:21.679
someone someone has to know that facebook handed over all of that data to

00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:26.960
some random analytical company was just like good luck um and and if that's happening it's

00:30:25.120 --> 00:30:30.640
fairly easy to assume bad things would be happening with that data it's not

00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:33.520
exactly a big jump and some people inside on facebook would have known that

00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:37.600
so um it's it's also

00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:41.520
not it's it's the same pattern

00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:46.799
as has existed since any kind of industrialization it's like

00:30:43.840 --> 00:30:51.200
ford knew that the pintos gas tank could burst into flames at the drop of a hat

00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:55.039
but that you know how many people are gonna die as a result of that is it

00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:58.559
worth recalling the entire line probably not a lot of people are gonna

00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:03.120
die we can probably pay off the people that die from the you know the gas tank

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:07.600
that burst into flames so let's not bother recalling the gas tank it's kind

00:31:05.360 --> 00:31:10.880
of like that but with people's privacy yeah yeah

00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:16.960
yeah somebody even said here somebody had to transfer the data

00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:18.720
and slash or give access to it yeah

00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:22.080
and like almost any reasonable human being that's in that position is going

00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:25.760
to go huh this is weird

00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:29.679
right i don't know like it's it's interesting that this article came up i

00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:34.320
just think it's it's no real new information if you if you think about

00:31:31.600 --> 00:31:37.840
what happened in general no good goes unpunished

00:31:35.600 --> 00:31:37.840
yeah

00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:44.000
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00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:30.560
like the the discounts that madrina's gives is kind of nuts

00:36:28.240 --> 00:36:33.839
it's fantastic the uh the thing that i decided i didn't want

00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:36.960
to say during the sponsor spot was their um their whole

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:42.640
we're going to plant 10 trees for each disc plate

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slowly replace the amazon

00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:48.400
too soon yeah that's okay i'm gonna leave this

00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:52.640
i don't know if that's the exact messaging they want but uh yeah that's a scary thing that's

00:36:51.520 --> 00:36:56.720
going on sorry we had a drought here and it was just

00:36:55.040 --> 00:37:00.160
like everything is dead and there was just there's no water and then it rained

00:36:58.240 --> 00:37:03.440
torrentially yesterday and now everything just doesn't know what to do

00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:10.720
yeah yeah um

00:37:08.240 --> 00:37:15.920
in more fun things related to fire uh walmart is suing tesla over defective

00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.920
solar panels

00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:21.119
this is actually kind of impressive it's not their batteries it's the solar

00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:24.960
panels yeah which is

00:37:22.560 --> 00:37:28.960
i haven't personally heard of before well i've heard of battery units

00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:31.920
connected to solar panel units lighting on fire

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.880
well it kind of can't be like it sounded well the report from walmart

00:37:35.040 --> 00:37:41.839
said that there were there were cracks and poor electrical connections and like

00:37:39.680 --> 00:37:46.320
improperly installed panels and so this could be like the panels are fine

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:51.599
but the army of contractors the tesla found because they're probably

00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:54.640
uh it just sort of went really badly and one thing that i wondered was like are

00:37:53.119 --> 00:38:00.079
these the same ingredients as like the solar uh roof

00:37:58.160 --> 00:38:02.240
tiles that are supposed to be like solar shingles or whatever or is this some

00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:06.880
other commercial product but i i would totally

00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:10.320
believe that like if there was not a good electrical connection that that

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:13.599
would totally start a fire but then walmart was like let's shut it shut down

00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:18.400
all the panels on all of our stores and another one caught fire

00:38:16.240 --> 00:38:22.480
it's really weird apparently they had to like ask for them

00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:25.359
to be shut down so maybe there was some mismanagement

00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:30.880
there as well over 240 walmarts sorry oh we missed

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:35.839
that one yeah whoops over 240 walmarts have solar panels on

00:38:33.359 --> 00:38:39.599
the roof from tesla but walmart says they've caught fire on top of as many as

00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:43.920
seven stores um after a pattern of sorry that seems like

00:38:42.720 --> 00:38:50.160
a lot that's a pretty high percentage that's a very high percentage i would like to see

00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:53.760
where they all are because your contractor idea is very interesting to

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:58.160
me actually and if they're all in kind of a similar area

00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:02.560
that could line up pretty well it's the same group of people walmart

00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.480
says tesla's own inspections uncovered a litany of issues with the panels

00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:10.560
including cracks loose connectors and incorrect grounding like wendell was

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:14.480
just saying uh the the lawsuit is for millions of dollars though the companies

00:39:12.720 --> 00:39:18.720
have stated they're working together to try to solve the issue

00:39:16.720 --> 00:39:21.680
not a good look for tesla as their position as a luxury brand for the

00:39:20.160 --> 00:39:25.920
public obviously they don't want to have people thinking there might be shoddy workmanship

00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:31.280
i'm pretty sure that tesla could just be like we'll put these in like 50 more

00:39:28.560 --> 00:39:35.440
walmarts for free just hush up about it and we'll fix these problems with these

00:39:32.640 --> 00:39:40.400
other ones and walmart we'll we'll say everything's fine totally good now it's

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:44.400
all this free electricity i mean so this this could totally be a negotiation

00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:48.640
tactic because oh tesla seems hypersensitive to any kind of like pr

00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:52.160
issue because they've got a madman at the helm

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:57.440
well and and also if tesla um not even sneezes

00:39:55.520 --> 00:40:02.320
if tesla goes like there's 47 news articles written about

00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:07.040
it like it's absolutely nuts the the amount of times you have like some crazy

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:11.760
car accident with a whole bunch of miscellaneous cars

00:40:09.200 --> 00:40:17.280
involved and then like some tesla driver not an autopilot drives into a wall and

00:40:14.640 --> 00:40:21.200
every automotive related thing and every mainstream news outlet all at the same

00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:26.000
time is like tesla ran into a wall oh my god like

00:40:23.839 --> 00:40:30.400
it's the the news surrounding them is absolutely bonkers so like i'm not

00:40:28.160 --> 00:40:34.560
saying this is a good thing you had seven solar panels installation

00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:37.599
catch on fire you screwed up pretty bad but like

00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:41.599
i don't know this is a this is a deal between walmart

00:40:39.839 --> 00:40:46.400
and tesla they're going to figure it out walmart's almost certainly going with

00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:50.000
what you suggested which is some type of negotia negotiation play they probably

00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:54.480
want free installations where they want free check-ups on all the different places which they should at the very

00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:58.960
least have free checkups and some which is at the minimum what they're going for

00:40:56.960 --> 00:41:03.119
um but knowing tesla they'll end up with free installations as well

00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.839
because it seems like the relations are um

00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:08.720
not i mean i imagine there's a they're high enough dollar value that it would

00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:12.800
make sense to just put in cellular monitoring because like tesla is

00:41:11.040 --> 00:41:16.480
connected at all times to the entire fleet to monitor everything and let's

00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:22.079
say if they're bacon a bunch of times because somebody has come up with some crazy story that seemed plausible based

00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:27.040
on the available information and then all of a sudden tesla trots out like the

00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:30.560
black box recordings and video and just all kinds of other stuff and it's like

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:34.160
wow that's not creepy at all that my car is recording all of that at all times so

00:41:33.040 --> 00:41:41.200
they could probably do that with the test with the solar installations as well

00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:44.480
yeah i think um i mean there's probably people in twitch

00:41:42.640 --> 00:41:48.720
chat freaking out because we're wrong about something but if it is external

00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:55.200
contractors i would like to think that they would have some first party tesla

00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:56.960
uh approval process where they like send

00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:59.839
out a one to two person team just to check the install and make sure that

00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:03.920
it's okay afterwards because finding things like cracked

00:42:01.680 --> 00:42:06.880
panels and whatnot that should be pretty easy to do

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:12.400
like a cracked panel should never be installed yeah so

00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:15.359
yeah i don't know are they cracked because somebody walked across the

00:42:13.839 --> 00:42:18.160
installation because they had to get like we surrounded the air conditioners

00:42:17.359 --> 00:42:23.119
with solar panels and then you know the compressor died and the crew had to get

00:42:21.680 --> 00:42:28.720
to the compressor to replace it on the air conditioner it's like well maybe we shouldn't have put the solar panels in a

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:32.160
360 degree radius around here maybe we should have left the walk path

00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:36.400
i don't know yeah planning goes a long way

00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.640
a used solar panel shouldn't be used okay i don't know i don't think that

00:42:41.040 --> 00:42:48.079
ever came up someone in chat tagged me and was like a used solar

00:42:44.560 --> 00:42:48.079
panel shouldn't be used and i'm like

00:42:48.319 --> 00:42:53.920
all right sounds good

00:42:51.839 --> 00:42:58.560
um let me move down here

00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:01.920
a little bit more did you do what are the news do we have

00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:06.400
Android q does this interest you Android q google

00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:09.920
is uh they're they're going with Android 10 instead of Android q is the is the

00:43:08.319 --> 00:43:14.480
news they're breaking the trend of dessert themed names

00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:18.880
i love how the notes in here say they could have gone with uh

00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:22.960
one of the words suggested was quinoa i don't think that would work they they

00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:28.800
generally go with dizzy dessert-based things come on john i know

00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:32.480
you're looking at the dock right now um officially the reason is that people in

00:43:31.359 --> 00:43:36.000
some parts of the world didn't understand the naming scheme due to

00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:40.560
linguistic reasons or just not being familiar with certain

00:43:37.680 --> 00:43:44.319
desserts which does kinda make sense um

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:49.359
the question that i have for you is is q the tenth letter of the alphabet

00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.359
because i don't think it is

00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.440
hey

00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:01.440
i'd have to follow their uh their scheme for a little while but yeah

00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:04.800
i i also if i ever have to find where a letter in the alphabet is i have to read

00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:09.520
out the whole darn alphabet i'm one of those people so

00:44:07.520 --> 00:44:14.160
uh they could have gone with quench gum i guess that's the only candy that i

00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:19.040
could find that literally started with q it's not i mean oh for oreo they've not

00:44:16.319 --> 00:44:22.720
that's not unprecedented but no yeah

00:44:20.240 --> 00:44:27.040
i thought it was kind of surprising when they started uh

00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:31.119
they started using branded things was it kitkat was that the first branded one

00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:35.599
yeah i was like that's really weird actually and then they did

00:44:33.359 --> 00:44:40.079
oreo later on and a few other things apparently there's a dessert from

00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:44.480
luxembourg that starts with q the tech tech link to twitter posted it

00:44:42.240 --> 00:44:47.760
out but then okay that actually lines up with what it said at the beginning of

00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:51.359
this dock which was uh one of the reasons is it's being blocked due to

00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:55.599
linguistic reasons or people just not knowing what certain desserts are if you

00:44:53.760 --> 00:45:00.160
you and me both can't think of a dessert that starts with q and apparently

00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:02.400
there's one from luxembourg randomly like

00:45:01.200 --> 00:45:06.319
okay i don't know yeah

00:45:04.640 --> 00:45:11.599
that's not nevermind i would like to see google turn Android

00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:15.760
into a full like merge Android and chrome os and build a desktop operating

00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:22.720
system or build something more toward a desktop Linux

00:45:19.520 --> 00:45:24.400
oh more desktop Linux i um

00:45:22.720 --> 00:45:29.359
i'm just going to stay on topic for a quick second and then i'll jump back to what you said um

00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:33.599
i i think they could have just dropped the

00:45:31.560 --> 00:45:37.200
alphabetizedness and just started calling it random desserts

00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.960
yeah that would have been good like who cares if it's in alphabetical order just

00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:46.079
call it i don't know ice they already have ice cream just call it something don't worry

00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:49.280
about it but i wanna i want an Android klondike

00:45:47.520 --> 00:45:51.599
yeah sure

00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:57.920
i mean they went with the branded thing so like whatever

00:45:55.359 --> 00:46:02.880
roll with it harder gummy bears yeah sweet

00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:04.160
um but yeah i know i i agree having

00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:07.599
what do they even call the desktop version right now

00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:12.160
is it Android os chrome os chrome os chrome is right of

00:46:09.200 --> 00:46:14.960
course um having that be beefed up would be pretty nice

00:46:13.520 --> 00:46:20.079
yeah that'd be cool another option on the scene well there's crouton where you can like

00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:24.079
run Android apps or run Linux apps under chrome

00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:27.200
and there's like a new version of that but i haven't played with it but one of

00:46:25.680 --> 00:46:30.000
the one of the guys i know was messing around with it and it looked it looked

00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:34.880
pretty legit um but also chrome's ability to run

00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:39.520
Android applications like that's fairly mature at this point and so that's

00:46:36.720 --> 00:46:44.160
almost the promised land yeah

00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:48.079
i um so give me one second i just had to

00:46:44.160 --> 00:46:50.079
take care of that really quick oh my god

00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:53.440
youtube listen to me i don't want to watch the ads there we

00:46:51.680 --> 00:46:57.200
go i didn't want the audio for the youtube

00:46:54.960 --> 00:47:00.800
ad to come through the stream and i kept pressing pause and it would

00:46:59.040 --> 00:47:04.640
immediately unpause it and keep playing i was like no

00:47:03.040 --> 00:47:08.400
stop i know you want your revenue but

00:47:06.640 --> 00:47:12.560
this is also i'm watching my own channel so that's not supposed to happen anyways

00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:16.160
stop it um

00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:21.359
okay let's let's let's move on this one's fun just in the

00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:25.200
internet of terrible things smart ovens

00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:29.280
are starting to have a mind of their own uh the the june oven has been turning on

00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:34.319
in the middle of the night and heating up to 400 degrees fahrenheit one user

00:47:31.839 --> 00:47:38.400
left his potatoes in the oven to cool but they turned uh

00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:41.200
it turned them black they end up being totally burnt

00:47:39.839 --> 00:47:45.680
fantastic june ceo is blaming users for the issues

00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:49.540
always a good stance to take saying that they're accidentally

00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.280
activating the oven through the app

00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:56.800
which is which is fantastic because apparently it's happening while people are sleeping

00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:00.560
um it just i just i don't know i've i've

00:47:59.040 --> 00:48:02.720
never it's

00:48:03.520 --> 00:48:09.359
it should almost be illegal to pre-heat your oven through your phone

00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.960
like in countries would like to go wrong yeah

00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:16.560
but like in countries with government-funded fire

00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:20.400
uh like fire halls

00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:24.960
like i feel like this is just directly going to increase i i feel bad enough

00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:28.559
when i when i do sous-vide remotely but i know i keep in mind that it like it

00:48:27.040 --> 00:48:33.280
doesn't go over 100 degrees like it's not it's going to be relatively calm it's probably going

00:48:31.200 --> 00:48:38.480
to be like a stick that's like 60 degrees it's probably okay

00:48:35.200 --> 00:48:40.559
um well one fix is to add even more

00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:45.200
internet of things things to monitor the internet of things things so that they

00:48:42.640 --> 00:48:49.680
know what's happening so like if you get like your google smart home director

00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:53.200
detects that the internet of things oven has come on at four o'clock in the

00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:58.000
morning the advanced ai algorithm is like um that doesn't sound right because

00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:02.079
you know our user does not work third shift so perhaps i should spam them with

00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.640
lots of notifications on their phone to be like hey the oven is activated or the

00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:10.400
ai can take it upon itself to deactivate the oven so that uh you know it doesn't

00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:14.400
burn the house down and then a few years later from there we

00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:18.079
have that same ai that's now pissed off because it's user keeps ignoring all of

00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:23.040
its warnings turning on the oven when the user isn't home being like now the

00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:27.040
user will never come home all my problems are solved

00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:31.640
i think that we saw this future like the end of this future in the movie wall-e

00:49:33.359 --> 00:49:37.520
like people just didn't know what's going on

00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:43.440
yeah i just i thought that was ridiculous that was fun that was posted

00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:48.880
uh our source for that was the verge the june smart oven is there any smart

00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:52.319
anything that actually makes sense like

00:49:50.240 --> 00:49:55.680
a lot of fridges now have us built-in screen

00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:59.920
smart phones well i mean like appliances yeah yeah

00:49:58.240 --> 00:50:03.839
i'm kidding i'm gonna buy a house when i buy a house it usually comes with some

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:08.880
of the appliances if not a lot of the appliances yeah and

00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:12.559
am i gonna buy a house and have a 15 year old smart fridge that is basically

00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:16.240
a security vulnerability nightmare that's probably already mining bitcoin

00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:20.079
for some guy in russia i mean is that it's just out of the box

00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:24.000
yeah you don't know

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:26.480
yeah no seriously i um it

00:50:24.720 --> 00:50:30.800
none of it makes a lot of sense to me i do i do enjoy my sous vides

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:36.480
um and i do kind of like them being

00:50:33.200 --> 00:50:39.440
somewhat smart devices just because

00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:45.920
well mostly that so that's a june oven okay so it's a toaster oven um

00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:48.480
i do like my my jewel being smartphone connected but that's just because it it

00:50:47.359 --> 00:50:53.599
takes it doesn't get that hot so it's not that big of a deal

00:50:51.680 --> 00:50:57.440
and the functions that it has a smart connect like you can't you can't tweet

00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:01.920
from your jewel like you can't or you're uh so

00:50:59.200 --> 00:51:05.839
when i say jewel all the younger people

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:10.559
i'm i'm that person now i think i'm saying the j-u-u-l smoking thing which i

00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:16.640
still have never seen in in real life but um i'm talking j-o-u-l-e the

00:51:13.680 --> 00:51:20.000
sous-vide kitchen appliance um if you have your your jewel it's going to take

00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:23.119
a while to cook things and you probably pre-prepped everything that's going to

00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:26.800
go in it so you you preheat it from your from your phone which it doesn't get

00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:30.319
that hot so it doesn't really matter and then once it's preheated you just go

00:51:28.640 --> 00:51:34.319
dunk your thing in and then you can monitor from your phone when it's going to be done and in some cases it's going

00:51:33.359 --> 00:51:39.520
to be like three hours if you're cooking i believe a frozen chicken breast so like

00:51:38.319 --> 00:51:43.920
it can be a while so being able to monitor it from your phone it's kind of cool and it doesn't get that hot so i

00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:48.720
get that but with like some random toaster oven that can get to 400 degrees

00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:52.079
and you can preheat it from your phone like that just that seems extremely

00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:57.440
unnecessary that's where i store my manuscripts

00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:03.520
perfect perfect that's the other thing is like if it's

00:52:01.520 --> 00:52:07.359
if you have a smart connected devices device i i'm sure i can find some that

00:52:05.839 --> 00:52:11.359
are legitimate although i can't really off the top of my head right now um the

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:16.559
scope seems to always be too much for me

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:20.400
like why does it do these things like there was a there was a story

00:52:17.839 --> 00:52:24.720
recently of a of a girl who her her mom tried to ban her off of

00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:27.119
twitter so she took her like laptop away or something

00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:31.359
or her phone uh so she tweeted from her like d.s

00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:34.800
and she took her ds away so she tweeted from the wii so she took her we away so

00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:40.079
she tweeted from the fridge and i was like why why can you tweet from the

00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:42.400
fridge like what oh man that's the world

00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:46.319
we live in now but just like come on

00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:50.640
that's ridiculous i am like i'm sure there's some use case where you have

00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:54.960
like a private twitter account and just your family is able to follow that

00:52:52.319 --> 00:52:58.559
twitter account and then you can like go on the fridge and be like i press the

00:52:56.559 --> 00:53:03.040
milk button and it auto tweets out like hey mom give me some milk

00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.480
like sure okay but there's gotta be easier ways to do that too

00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:10.720
i don't know why i'm reminded of this but uh

00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:15.680
when astrix you know the open source phone system thing was new yeah uh i set

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:20.000
up an asterisk system and

00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:24.720
uh just for just for the lulls one of the extensions you could dial in this

00:53:21.839 --> 00:53:29.280
corporate phone system would take you to play zork the text adventure

00:53:27.359 --> 00:53:32.319
and it would be it would text-to-speech read you what was happening

00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:38.000
the commands so it's like i'm pretty sure we can set it up so that you know

00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:42.000
just touch tone phone dialing we can get twitter going

00:53:39.680 --> 00:53:44.880
yeah probably i don't yeah i don't even think that would be that hard twitter's

00:53:43.040 --> 00:53:48.480
so freaking simple oh man obviously like attachments and

00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:51.680
stuff wouldn't work but uh there's a service for prisoners so

00:53:50.319 --> 00:53:56.079
like prisoners are not allowed to have technology at least in the u.s i mean

00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:00.240
you guys probably have like fancy resort prison in canada but

00:53:58.319 --> 00:54:05.839
but in the us it's like most they're not allowed to really have that kind of technology but there's a service

00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:10.480
that people on the outside can subscribe to and so like you

00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:14.240
you add your own social media to it like the prisoner's family or whatever like

00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:17.680
you know say you you know say you accidentally ran over somebody and

00:54:16.240 --> 00:54:20.800
you're gonna go to jail for two or three years for manslaughter but you want to

00:54:19.359 --> 00:54:25.520
keep in touch with the family but you know it's prison uh the service will

00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:29.440
print your twitter feed and mail it

00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:36.559
they'll have you know they get your they get your feed but in mail form once a week

00:54:33.520 --> 00:54:37.599
oh man

00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:41.280
that's that's actually wild

00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:47.359
huh i kind of oh

00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:50.720
that's a lot of do you get like a book well i mean it's not you know i mean i

00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:56.960
guess if you subscribe to like a million people it would probably only be like first 10 pages but the idea is like if

00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:59.520
you're taking pictures of your kids or you're like your spouse is in prison

00:54:58.319 --> 00:55:05.440
and you're taking pictures of your of your kids or your family and you know your stuff's going on or making posts to

00:55:03.040 --> 00:55:09.440
facebook like you know uh grandma's diabetes medicine went up

00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:13.520
again then all that gets printed and mailed to a prison somewhere

00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:17.440
and then they can just read it and they can reply by

00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:20.880
mail like they can send a letter to the service and

00:55:19.200 --> 00:55:25.119
you know oh my goodness prisoners have a limited

00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:29.760
ability to send email though it's very limited

00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:33.280
but they can send email i said uh physical mail snail mail oh yeah yeah

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.800
okay okay that's uh

00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:40.480
that's really interesting i had i had no idea any of that stuff

00:55:39.359 --> 00:55:44.319
existed i know i know next to those are my

00:55:42.720 --> 00:55:51.280
discord notifications guys sorry about that um i don't know if i can

00:55:47.200 --> 00:55:51.280
mute that give me one second

00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:56.400
i should be able to oh no if i mute discord i mute you

00:55:55.040 --> 00:56:03.920
that won't work okay let's not worry about it sorry about the discord notifications my dudes

00:56:00.799 --> 00:56:06.160
next up in fun government things uh faa

00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:10.319
asks citizens to please not stick weapons

00:56:07.200 --> 00:56:10.319
on their drones

00:56:11.520 --> 00:56:15.599
well that's not a problem for us here in the states because

00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:22.319
uh i you know as a citizen of the great nation of you know

00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:26.880
the united states of america if i want to manufacture my own firearms for my

00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:30.880
own personal use that is my right under the second amendment

00:56:28.720 --> 00:56:36.640
so like if i want to construct my own like if i want to hue from

00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:39.119
raw metal and the sweat of my brow

00:56:36.640 --> 00:56:44.000
you know a 1911 pistol that has no serial number or anything that is my

00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:44.000
god-given right

00:56:47.200 --> 00:56:53.760
yeah that's that's amazing so but this okay but this says that you get fined 25

00:56:51.839 --> 00:56:58.480
grand for each violation yeah they're just it's like you're you

00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:01.920
can't so you can't make booby traps is is

00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:05.520
what they're flying this under as so like you

00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:10.960
holding a weapon you making a weapon that's totally okay but you putting a weapon on a drone

00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:18.400
that's not okay you're going to accidentally do something bad and before a lot of places have uh been

00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:21.200
not getting any kind of rain or anything

00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:24.640
the flame throwing drones that would be bad that would be a good

00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:27.440
easy way to accidentally start a forest fire that no firefighter can actually

00:57:26.559 --> 00:57:31.760
reach yeah they seem to be saying

00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:38.480
was done in response to online videos showing drones with it does specifically

00:57:36.319 --> 00:57:41.119
call it flamethrowers and it says guns attached to them and i guess that would

00:57:40.319 --> 00:57:46.160
be would that is is there any laws i don't i'm not very up on american laws in

00:57:44.799 --> 00:57:49.839
general but especially not their firearms stuff uh is there any laws

00:57:48.640 --> 00:57:54.400
about like reckless use of a firearm yes lots yeah

00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:59.359
lots of laws about reckless use of empire so i feel like attaching a gun to

00:57:56.720 --> 00:58:02.640
a drone would probably fall under reckless use of a firearm whatever

00:58:00.799 --> 00:58:07.599
that's actually called yes yeah there was a farm in texas that got

00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:11.520
in trouble uh some ranch owner owned a couple of hundred acres and he had a

00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:15.359
service where you could actually uh there was like a deer stand and you

00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:20.079
could sign up and control a rifle on a turret and it was i

00:58:18.240 --> 00:58:24.960
mean it's completely safe because it was like a live range but the deer would

00:58:22.799 --> 00:58:29.359
come from the tree line you know into the range and you could shoot deer over

00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:35.799
the internet that was frowned upon and so that's not a thing anymore but that

00:58:31.520 --> 00:58:35.799
was totally basically okay

00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:43.680
you could shoot real deer over the internet that's like the most intense

00:58:41.040 --> 00:58:48.559
version of buck hunter ever i think in canada or not in canada in

00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:52.480
alaska it's still okay to hunt like wolves and bears and stuff

00:58:51.040 --> 00:58:57.280
from a helicopter from my helicopter

00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:01.599
well okay isn't that that's totally okay for uh boars in texas right

00:59:00.799 --> 00:59:06.480
i think so yeah probably yeah it's just

00:59:04.319 --> 00:59:09.040
you gotta like you know not be reckless about it so it's gonna be those very

00:59:08.319 --> 00:59:14.559
real you gotta not be reckless about your machine gun from your helicopter

00:59:12.160 --> 00:59:20.160
very low population density those kind of things yeah that makes sense

00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:24.000
that's uh that's fantastic if you do ever come visit we'll go to

00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:29.599
the range you'll have a lot of fun i um my grandpa was was in the marines

00:59:27.839 --> 00:59:33.040
and he's taken me to ranges basically every time i've seen

00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:36.799
him for for quite a while um i'm not saying i wouldn't love to go

00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:40.640
let's do i want to actually we were talking about this in the pre-show i want to come check out

00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:46.480
your studio and everything so that would be fantastic

00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:50.240
combination technology and guns are a

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.760
form of technology as it turns out yes

00:59:50.240 --> 00:59:56.559
that's always a fun thing to bring up when it's like people are like uh this isn't tech news

00:59:55.040 --> 01:00:00.640
and i'm like yeah are you sure

00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:04.720
it probably is pretty much no matter what we're talking about it probably is

01:00:02.799 --> 01:00:08.960
i think with that though we can probably conclude the show can you tell everyone

01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:13.599
all the various places that they can find you uh

01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:18.720
i'm i'm wendell from level one you could just google me it's fine

01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:23.839
uh that's about all you need to do i'm i'm uh i'm at uh tekwendel on

01:00:22.720 --> 01:00:28.400
twitter and level the number one text

01:00:26.839 --> 01:00:33.760
tchs.com so there we go not a big deal cool

01:00:31.040 --> 01:00:38.319
does youtube stuff does twittery stuff um and soon i guess we could say that

01:00:37.359 --> 01:00:42.480
yes soon Floatplane stuff Floatplane level

01:00:40.960 --> 01:00:48.319
one is coming to Floatplane so that's like we're what like

01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:49.680
five at this point five or six uh

01:00:48.319 --> 01:00:55.200
what six six i think six it'll be it'll be whoever wins

01:00:53.520 --> 01:00:59.760
between you and uh he's he's signed whatever sounds good

01:00:57.040 --> 01:01:03.280
you in science studio oh no actually like go live first

01:01:01.680 --> 01:01:06.880
it turns out the Floatplane is actually a nice platform youtube

01:01:05.520 --> 01:01:13.520
a little bit of a dumpster fire these days yes that's a win in my department

01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:18.880
success oh man okay awesome yeah that's it for the show

01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:23.150
guys thank you everyone for watching oh uh actually i'm gonna not forget here

01:01:21.520 --> 01:01:27.760
real quick sorry i'm going to jump to

01:01:26.799 --> 01:01:32.079
uh let's put something on screen that doesn't matter

01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:41.359
and then jump here i just want to read off super chats oh yeah super chat

01:01:41.520 --> 01:01:48.960
is there just the one i think there's just one that's amazing

01:01:47.040 --> 01:01:54.240
thank you random citizen yeah i think it's because we skipped out

01:01:50.720 --> 01:01:57.760
on reading them so many times in a row

01:01:54.240 --> 01:01:57.760
we are so good at this

01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:07.850
okay yeah uh gordy tech channel donated uh two pounds

01:02:04.799 --> 01:02:09.440
and said uh turn turn wendell up

01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:16.960
well thanks gordy tech channel i'll try to sit closer to the mic next time

01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:24.359
deeply appreciated my man okay that's it thanks everyone for coming to the stream

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:24.359
uh i'll see you guys next time intro

01:02:42.319 --> 01:02:50.319
thank you madrina's pia and

01:02:46.839 --> 01:02:52.720
display see you guys next week

01:02:50.319 --> 01:02:58.880
actually you won't see me next week but or when or maybe

01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:05.119
you'll you'll see some people on this show next week see you later

01:03:02.799 --> 01:03:11.319
we're we're the pleb to your host yeah yeah

01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:11.319
the b team says goodbye
