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when Amazon Basics does a thing you guys buy the ever loving crap out of it so

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with that in mind I know you're going to buy this whether I give it the green

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light or not but hey I like feeling like I'm matter so I figured regardless of

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that I'm going to talk at the air around me for 8 to 10 minutes and hopes that

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someone somewhere hears my words and cares whether or not I approve of the

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new Amazon ml55 F700 mini LED Fire TV

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spoiler alert I don't really but not

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because it's a bad TV let me show you

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we picked up the 55 in version because the 65 was going to take an extra week

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for some reason and we didn't really care they both have functionally the same specs anyway 4K 120 HZ or 144 HZ in

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gaming mode free sync premium Pro certification and a handy dandy autol

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low latency mode for gaming pretty nice for under

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$700 that is if you have a Prime Membership more on pricing later before

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we get to that there's even more to like as the name of the product would suggest

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the the ml55 F700 or mil 700 as I've

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taken to calling it features a mini LED backlight that boosts up to 1,400 nits

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with 512 dimming zones and support for

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every HDR standard that you could want I'm talking Dolby Vision hdr10 HDR 10

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plus and hlg to be clear I am not

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expecting the world's best HDR experience based on these specs but I

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also didn't pay for the world's best HDR experience so so far so good

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since we're down here we can take a look at our speakers which are apparently 2.1

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Channel Dolby Atmos with built-in subwoofers but we're going to look at

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those later because first we've got to talk about our soundar oh my God I

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forgot the soundar oh where is it it's at the lab time for an

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adventure nice Fire TV Soundbar Plus

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all

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right dang

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it there you

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go okay I'm rolling and here it

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is what a smooth production the Amazon

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basic Soundbar plus 3.1 Channel allinone

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design D be Atmos dtsx clear dialogue

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2024 release let's take a look at it

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shall we oh this is supposed to fast forward again so don't stop

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rolling yep that's a bar of sound all

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right I was expecting it be a lot lot more it's Amazon Basics not Amazon

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Deluxe okay and they did the same thing that Sonos did where they only have one

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HDMI port anyway enough about the Soundbar for now let's set up the TV

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it's a pretty painless setup it only weighs about3 lb so you can move it with

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a friend but you probably don't need to and in terms of IO it's got four HDMI

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ports two of which are HDMI 2.0 two of which are HDMI 2.1 and yes one of the

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faster ports is the EC meaning that with Amazon's own recommended Soundbar you're

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going to be eating up one of your high-speed ports also present at the

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back is coax Optical Ethernet no speed specified and a usb3 port which can

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either be used to load media files onto or just used for power for a streaming

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stick uh oh this is cool though at the bottom

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they have a physical microphone switch and there it is if you don't want old

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Alexa listening to you it's also got Wi-Fi 6C all right ready let's fire it

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up get it fire

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great she's going hey oh yeah kind of store is going

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to have a fire TV in it I don't know actually that seems like the kind of

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thing that was just part of the software for whatever OEM created this and yeah

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cuz this is never going to be in a store for ever it's just coming from a warehouse yeah okay setup with Fire TV

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app set up with the remote sure I like this what that it just gave you a bunch

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of networks to choose from no that the signal strength it puts it in very simple English signal strength is really

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good use this one okay sign in with your Amazon account uh okay I can press this

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to do it later oh by not signing in any previously saved Wi-Fi or Ethernet

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information will be removed and select features will be unavailable

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I says pardon I'm not allowed to have a network

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connection if I don't sign into an Amazon account I don't think so well

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this is pretty right here I wonder what other features are locked like if you

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don't make an account and you go in can you even change inputs and stuff to use

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just a separate box I actually can't sign in though the tof goes Toon's phone

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do you have an Amazon account I have an Amazon account sorry I'll try not to

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order too much stuff it's okay is it oh

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okay maybe they registered our TV

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big brother's watching yeah I will save Wi-Fi passwords to that's wild I don't

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like that that what that's not good

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that's really messed up imagine if someone hacked your Amazon account and got into it I don't need to do that

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voice commands when the TV screen is off sure get the best picture quality oh

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yeah the default set op it's the energy saving stuff yeah I like that it prompts

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me for it it's nice a lot of them just show up and they're in energy saving

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mode and they don't tell you anything and that's a lot brighter now it's kind of nice that it doesn't just load them

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all up for for you you get to choose yeah some of them just come pre-loaded

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and you go and sit there and delete a bunch is Plex an option no of course not

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get tuby what are you doing get tuby tuby enable parental controls okay not

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bad I don't actually care about that right now oh man this this getting a

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little long though right scan for TV channels no no okay me try to use Alexa

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to do something sure cuz we should be able to just be like hey open

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Netflix do you have off I don't know

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maybe maybe the red means off you'd think red means recording you would

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think that yeah microphone is on to turn microphone off oh there we go the Alexa

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Switched Off okay hey download

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plex y it hey it went to though that was

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pretty Snappy inputs okay easy enough

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picture backlight picture reset with

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there's more than this there's way more than this you say that I know that maybe

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we have to be in like Netflix or something maybe it just has a really

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minimal well I hate that OSD I don't like it either I hate that I should be

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able to change everything that I want to change from wherever I am cuz that

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that's horrible yep Watch trailer

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Easy sure oh there's way more

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what the heck I don't know why it's you

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know locked unless you're watching content but it does have a bunch of

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options and they Auto on to filmmaker mode did it or was it said yeah so

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that's nice filmmaker mode oh right no no I wanted motion off it's off by

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default what's action smoothing set to three well three that's probably okay

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it's probably fine it it'd be better at like 1 or off but there's no way I would

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leave something like super resolution on

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by default really I just keep it on you know what like it's not super aggressive

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yeah I think I might actually prefer it off really on yeah yeah okay hey tu's

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ready you know what no it's messing with the bokeh effect oh yeah sharpening

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background details that are supposed to be out of focus I'm leaving it off all

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right all right all right we got our Alm vrr DG refresh rate that's what that

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means so that's free sync yep what's DG dual line gate it's a TCL feature oh you

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just SPO you just spoiled who the it's probably a TCL hey we took the last Fire

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TV apart and pretty much confirmed it's a TCL so all right it's probably a TCL

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this doesn't look bad no it really doesn't it really doesn't especially

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given what my expectations were from the last Fire TV and what's really

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interesting is if you disable local dimming we actually got stunning color

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accuracy out of this thing a Delta e of just 1.8 in SDR with that said you

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bought a mini LED with full array local dimming for a reason so you might have

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to sacrifice some color accuracy for a more pleasing to the eye visual

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experience but looks pretty good yeah honestly what about the listening

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experience for that I'm going to need to put on my LTT hat from LTT Store.com it

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might not make me a better listener but you'll like the way you look I guarantee

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it uh we should use voice search um okay what was that button the blue one press

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and hold crab

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Rave all right let's go let's hear the speaker

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and then we can throw the soundar

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on you know what they're not bad they're not bad no especially for like 40 44

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volume inste out of 100 well I know that

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going louder isn't better

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yeah that was are you kid I'm not saying that was like amazing Basse but that was

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like actually Basse does the integrated

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subwoofer actually

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subwoof she woofs wow she woofs I've

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never been impressed yeah I'm

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trying I think that's the first time I've ever been impressed by a TV

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subwoofer huh that was like not awful and it's not necessarily the best bass

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I've ever heard out of a TV like there's some that have like ball and speakers

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but those ones don't cost a few hundred bucks should you even get the Soundbar

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combo yeah we promise let's get let's let's try it let's see if it's worth it

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got a couple wall mount brackets that we're not going to use comes with a remote and an HDMI cable and a power

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cable so we'll just get this plugged in real quick yeah the power cable could be

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longer this is a nice setup process yeah

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that was really easy we plugged it in it automatically detected everything tells

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us it's connected uh you might need batteries for the Soundbar remote no I

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don't even need to use it boom you're right I can customize in settings uh it

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didn't take me straight to where to customize the actual sound so that's EQ

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is right there what do you mean well yeah but it it took me to picture settings first oh sure yeah and there's

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not much to adjust so cool oh long press

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home for Soundbar settings juicy grassfed beef did it do

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it I don't think it did it it just went to the settings menu shut up it does not

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pressing settings go back and long pressing home do the

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exact same thing why why is that even a feature it sounds better oh yeah I mean

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and so it should how much is this thing the Soundbar alone is like 250 bucks

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it's on discount when you bundle it with the TV and get it through Prime yeah

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it's way better yeah I'm still impressed by the TV but if you want better

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Clarity obviously your TV is not going to be the best speaker

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I'm less impressed once we get to the base yeah but if you do want like yeah

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volume uh for your dialogue yeah it's

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better than the TV I don't know if it's $300 better oh No Maybe not maybe not

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even like $250 better maybe not even $200 better and to be clear on a TV with

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way worse speakers I'd be singing a completely different tune oh yeah but I

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was so impressed by the speakers on the TV itself that I just don't feel like I

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need the Soundbar nearly as much as I would on another one yep why don't we

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check out some HDR content okay had people asking why do we watch this movie

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cuz it's pretty and sounds nice also consistency we watch the same movie

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across multiple devices then we have a frame of reference for everything is

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smoothing on right that's what I thought when we were watching crab Rave I thought I turn thought I turned it off I

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thought you turned it off too okay well let's let's make sure it's off real

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quick I'm just going to hold the home button wow it's really struggling at

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times huh like we're just through menus in Plex hello and we're on Wi-Fi 60 and

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we have a really good networking okay it's off now how'd you turn it off I had

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to change the pro the picture profile

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Dolby Vision standard just has motion

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smoothing don't like it Go

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yourself yeah it's on again wow it takes

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forever to swap modes okay that one wasn't too bad oh there it goes no no that's the

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that's the video buffering okay so uh let's connect aor networ cable I guess

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cuz this is terrible it's got Wi-Fi 6E like it should be fine I don't want to

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blame it our Wi-Fi can be a little sketchy that's true that's

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true I'm just going to turn this off okay this definitely feels more

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responsive in Plex now so hopefully it was just Wi-Fi maybe it's my server I

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just I want to be open to the possibility that it's my server so I'm

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just going to all right yeah yeah yeah I'm going to find the same movie hm

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totally fine play original quality cuz

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that's that's what I that's what I selected here wow connection to the

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server is not fast enough to stream this content it should be even if it's only

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100 megabit Ethernet should be fine yes

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be able to do it could have just been a trans coating issue and then we can just cut all this out and we'll just pick up

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right from there it goes you know maybe still figuring stuff out okay let's wait

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for one more buffer okay or give it like a couple minutes and then if it's fine I

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want to look at how it looks it's pretty okay there it goes

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again we're losing a lot of detail the

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yeah I know it's not no lead it is mini LED try the uh contrast enhancement

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stuff you can turn on intelligent HDR

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and it's supposed to make the pixels like turn off or something and then look

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a little darker but if that's just turned off then we're going to lose the

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detail anyway yeah you can see when you've got that camera flash yeah you

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are basically completely losing the oh

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wow yeah there's a lot gone here the brights look good they do but you can

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tell that they're optimizing for the bright points and losing a lot in the

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details to its credit the blacks are quite deep they are and even in HDR I'm

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not seeing way over Juiced colors or anything like that like it's if I had to

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say something I'd say maybe it's got a bit of a green cast to it but it's not

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bad how's the accuracy in HDR it's not too bad actually I think it was a Delta

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ITP average of like 12 and that's pretty good for HDR yeah for Delta ITP that's

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actually pretty good these really don't pop though no it gets to a Max of 1,600

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nits with the right settings uh we'll talk more about it later in the Labs

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results sections but realistically out of the box you're going to hit more like

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1,200 which is 200 below the 1400 in its rating that it's rated for and given

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that it doesn't get that dark you don't get that pop and also the 512 local

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dimming zones because it's only 512

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you're going to get brightness in like bigger flashes but you're not going to

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be able to do like that little pin prick of a star or whatever like an could or

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even just a mini LED with 1600 zones yeah I'm finally watching 2001 Space

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Odyssey you've never seen it so we can uh we can pop that on for a minute here

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man the the Stars just get lost in its

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attempts to bring the black levels down mhm I don't see much of a halo around a

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big bright object I see some yeah it's

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totally tolerable though and there should be way more detail in this

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landscape here yeah I watched this on my phone last night so then again my phone

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literally costs more than this TV and yes I know it's a different class of

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device or whatever but on a $400 phone you would probably get a better

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experience and you could just like hold it here yeah cuz it's OLED it's perfectly acceptable for the kids or

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even just like the average family who just needs a decent TV in the living

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room to game on this is bad this is bad

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okay never mind I can't even see the Monster design no that that even here

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you can usually see more detail in toothless's Wings yeah okay it's kind of

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it's not great the parts I can see are actually really good yeah and color

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accuracy looks good but it can't do those deep blacks yeah just the way it

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rolls off yeah but can you game on it wait shut up what what what you found

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the select button there is no dedicated inputs button no way actually they've

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got Prime Netflix apps and Amazon music

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and the little TV icon whatever the hell that means what do this do live TV oh

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Christ yeah it is I I shouldn't have gone to that unbelievable I don't even

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know how you got there I don't even know how you got there I don't even want to try hold the whole buttton click click

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click and then select one for something that you're going to use that often

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unacceptable okay so where am I supposed to set oh input settings probably game

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now in Windows check if we've got 144 as well yeah it's set to 144 now we had to

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go through a convoluted thing of nonsense in order to get it to detect

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that that but yep we're set to 144 we're in HDR uh what do you think do maternal

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yeah input leg feels good I'm going to go out on a limb I'm going to say not

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the best we've ever seen But perfectly acceptable perfectly good here's one

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weird thing we actually measured worse response times at 144 vers at 120 so the

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input leg is about the same but the actual response time of the pixels is

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worse yeah huh so they just need to do some fine tuning in their overdrive or

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something I guess and an update could fix that will they update it oh no

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there's no way they're going to fix that but it looks okay like this looks fine

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oh this is totally fine yeah we're in warm 2 game mode 144 Herz HDR on Dolby

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Vision it's okay it is markedly better

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than the LED TVs that we had back with no local dimming zones absolutely it's

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not on par with a higher end TV but it is totally acceptable no one's going to

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complain about going to someone's house and watching this TV or gaming on this

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TV 100% but they're also not going to be impressed or wow or anything either no

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but it's totally fine and just like with watching movies I don't find myself

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distracted by the bloom oh yeah even though I'm sure if I you know move yeah

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move a mouse cursor around on it I can I can see it in summary pretty darn okay

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way better audio than I expected and as long as you're willing to play around in

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the very unintuitive sometimes menu system I think you can eek pretty darn

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good image quality out of it in almost any scenario now that the subjective

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stuff's over then let's throw to the lab for their thoughts it's better than we

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expected for color gamut we're reaching about 94 or 95% of P3 depending on which

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mode you're in and about 71% of bt2020

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when it comes to SDR color accuracy it's kind of all over the place we found the

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best results in filmmaker mode with local dimming off netting an average

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Delta of 1.86 but if you're willing to sacrifice accuracy for brightness and

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full array local dimming which you probably are with a TV like this then

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surprisingly standard mode warm 2 stood out with an average Delta e 2000 of 8.03

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and a Max of 13.24 as for HDR in

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filmmaker mode at default backl brightness we measured a very solid

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Delta ITP average of 12.76 with a Max of

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42.29774

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brightness filmmaker mode set to default got us about 12200 nits but maxing out

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the backlight we reached a whopping 1630 either way plenty bright just wish

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we could see that in a smaller window size than 25% this is likely due to the

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lack of extra dimming zones 512 is a bit lackluster even on a 55 in display like

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this one even after measuring it objectively this thing is not bad so

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then if it's not bad why am I having such a hard time recommending it well

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for starters remember those 500 12 dimming zones that we've talked about

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well that's not bad for a 55 in TV but what it is is a little last gen in 2024

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especially at the non-prime member discounted price of

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$820 and that right there is another problem Amazon and their services are

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baked into this experience start to finish For Better or For Worse which is

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going to be a major turnoff for some folks and unfortunately unlike some of

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their other products that justify the intrusiveness with industry beating

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value even the Prime member price here isn't that compelling see at the time of

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filming one of the competitors to this TV the high sense u8 is priced around

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the same and is a measurably better TV

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same size resolution and refresh rate but rated it up to 1,800 nits with a

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significant bump in dimming zones also worth noting unlike our Fire TV here

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that add zones almost linearly as you go up in size if you spring for the 65in

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version of the high sense which is also price competitive you more than double

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those zones at 1,600 total now obviously

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the u8n isn't always going to be on promo but it also often is and I think

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that it's the better value admittedly it doesn't come with fire OS but a fire

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stick is pretty cheap and frankly the included fire experience on this one is

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not fire so I would still recommend something like an NVIDIA shield for a

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more featur and smooth experience

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with that said if all you're looking for is validation of the thing that you

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already want or already bought then I guess the Fire TV mini LED mil 55 is

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okay go ahead and buy it but just do me a favor and use the link down below to

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like the one we did on the high sense 110 ux that thing was

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mindblowing sorry it took my hat off there