WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.299 take your PC and put it in another room 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:11.460 it really is a surprisingly elegant solution with a lot of upsides noise and 00:00:09.420 --> 00:00:14.639 temperature all of a sudden are non-factors you don't need to worry 00:00:13.139 --> 00:00:18.660 about your system getting filled with all the dust you produce just by 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:23.100 existing and for bonus points you can throw everything in a rack just to flex 00:00:20.580 --> 00:00:29.220 your mad it status however to get peripherals like your 00:00:26.340 --> 00:00:34.079 mouse and your keyboard your webcam your thumb drives working well you're going 00:00:31.500 --> 00:00:38.160 to need some way to bridge the USB Gap that now exists between your machine and 00:00:37.020 --> 00:00:44.100 you now these icron docks over here these 00:00:41.879 --> 00:00:47.219 things are fantastic but the thing that's not fantastic about them is the 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:51.780 price so what about all those cheaper 00:00:49.559 --> 00:00:56.579 Solutions out there how do they compete for speed and distance 00:00:53.820 --> 00:01:00.059 wow the manner they operate in and how well they function might actually 00:00:58.260 --> 00:01:03.180 surprise you even if you're not surprised to hear this segue to our 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:07.560 sponsor the ridge the ridge has partnered up 00:01:05.460 --> 00:01:13.560 with Hennessy performance to give you a chance to win amazing prizes like a 00:01:09.540 --> 00:01:15.540 Hennessy Ford Bronco or 75 000 cash you 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:19.140 get one entry for every dollar spent on the ridge products or up to a thousand 00:01:17.280 --> 00:01:24.659 entries for every dollar spent on custom Hennessy products use the link below and 00:01:21.720 --> 00:01:30.320 get 10 bonus entries even if the details are complicated the function of the icon 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:33.780 USB Raven 3124 is pretty easy to explain 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:37.439 under normal circumstances your USB port 00:01:33.780 --> 00:01:40.320 has some conductors in it let's say four 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:45.900 or nine or in the case of USBC some more those connect to wires when you plug in 00:01:43.320 --> 00:01:51.780 and transmit a signal over those wires to whatever your target device is 00:01:49.079 --> 00:01:57.600 here we take those wires and we plug them into the back of one of these boxes 00:01:53.759 --> 00:02:00.299 some encoding happens here it transmits 00:01:57.600 --> 00:02:06.360 that encoded data over fiber optic or Cat6 a cable to a receiver which decodes 00:02:03.600 --> 00:02:10.560 the data and then reconstructs it back to the original USB signal at least 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:15.540 we're pretty sure that's how it works since that would explain both the xilinx 00:02:12.959 --> 00:02:20.160 fpgas that we found at the heart of both of these units as well as their 00:02:17.580 --> 00:02:23.879 astronomical price tag since the only thing we think it would reasonably be 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:28.379 doing is handling the encoding and decoding that's associated with going 00:02:25.620 --> 00:02:33.239 from USB to another type of data transmission 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:36.180 with fiber this system can do up to 200 00:02:33.239 --> 00:02:41.099 meters or a hundred meters on copper which is significantly farther than the 00:02:38.640 --> 00:02:47.760 standard range of three meters for USB 3.1 gen 1 or 5 meters for USB 2. but you 00:02:45.540 --> 00:02:51.900 don't need to have an expensive fpga powered device in order to break those 00:02:49.500 --> 00:02:56.519 limits take this Corning Optical USB cable for example these are available 00:02:53.760 --> 00:03:01.379 lengths of up to 50 meters which last I checked is a lot more than three and 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:06.360 they need only a tiny electrical to Optical conversion chip on each side to 00:03:03.900 --> 00:03:11.220 take that USB data and transmit it long distances over fiber however while they 00:03:09.660 --> 00:03:16.260 definitely have some advantages over the icons like oh I don't know say for 00:03:13.200 --> 00:03:19.920 example size they also have some 00:03:16.260 --> 00:03:21.599 disadvantages like price yeah they're 00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:26.580 not actually really that much of a better deal and on top of that they're 00:03:24.480 --> 00:03:33.120 not easily serviceable in the field so the length you have is the length you 00:03:28.379 --> 00:03:35.159 get and as it turns out USB 2 and USB 3 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:41.040 they are not the same thing you hook this USB 3 cable up to a USB 2 device 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:42.599 you are Plum out of luck I mean to its 00:03:41.040 --> 00:03:46.860 credit at least the cable is a lot more durable so it's less likely to get 00:03:44.580 --> 00:03:53.340 broken in your walls walls speaking of walls if your house 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:59.040 looks anything like this with Cat6 or even Cat5e cables buried in them and 00:03:56.519 --> 00:04:05.400 you're okay with USB 2.0 speeds and a distance limit of 50 meters there are a 00:04:01.860 --> 00:04:08.879 lot of very economical options for this 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:10.799 meet the esku USB extender easy cool it 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:15.299 doesn't matter the point is it's only 60 on Amazon which despite being the same 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:21.840 price as our upcoming stubby screwdriver on LTT Store it transmits USB over 00:04:18.479 --> 00:04:24.360 copper but wait a minute if it's using 00:04:21.840 --> 00:04:28.680 copper what makes it different than any standard USB cable why can't you just 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:33.660 make a USB cable longer well you see it's the same thing that 00:04:30.960 --> 00:04:40.560 makes any active cable different it uses a hub to act as a repeater now typically 00:04:37.800 --> 00:04:45.660 this would be a self-powered hub which the esku is but unpowered will actually 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:50.460 do just fine here so long as it does what every other unpowered Hub seems to 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:54.780 do and it lies to the host system about its unpowered nature 00:04:52.560 --> 00:05:00.120 the script says this is the part where we could try to build it ourselves 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:03.259 what oh 00:05:01.919 --> 00:05:08.880 oh is this thing really that simple 00:05:06.479 --> 00:05:14.280 it's just pin to pin oh no no so you take that you take this 00:05:12.479 --> 00:05:19.139 and you take a hub and theoretically this should work 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:23.220 really however it doesn't it didn't quite function but 00:05:21.660 --> 00:05:28.259 it could definitely see that there was a USB device being plugged in 50 feet away 00:05:25.860 --> 00:05:31.680 after some Shenanigans maybe the editor will show you on our security cameras we 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:35.520 have got this working which is great because this is a pretty cool demo what 00:05:33.479 --> 00:05:40.800 you're looking at here is a little board that has a USB port on it some commodity 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:44.940 Electronics wiring and they are hooked up to a keystone jack the reason this is 00:05:43.500 --> 00:05:50.160 important is because I'm going to show you guys how we can make this for 00:05:47.039 --> 00:05:52.440 ourselves all we've got to do is take a 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:57.660 USB a to a cable plug that into our computer 00:05:54.600 --> 00:06:01.259 plug that into our USB port 00:05:57.660 --> 00:06:04.440 okay then we take any cable right 00:06:01.259 --> 00:06:07.979 because copper is copper in it 00:06:04.440 --> 00:06:10.800 go like this plug another standard USB 00:06:07.979 --> 00:06:16.500 cable into the other side and then oh connect it to a powered Hub and 00:06:14.100 --> 00:06:22.020 theoretically all we have to do is plug in some USB device and 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:28.080 oh it works it's alive which raises some 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:34.199 questions if all we need is a cheap powered Hub 00:06:30.539 --> 00:06:36.720 and a couple of like keystones 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:40.759 why exactly is anybody spending sixty dollars on this 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:49.500 you actually don't know do you is there a good is there isn't it I guess no I 00:06:47.340 --> 00:06:52.919 really have no idea especially when there's Alternatives we'll get into that 00:06:51.419 --> 00:06:56.819 in a minute I guess going off script here how far can we go 00:06:55.080 --> 00:07:03.960 though what is this one I said this was 35 feet right 10 meters that is well 00:07:00.900 --> 00:07:09.020 past what even USB 2 can do 00:07:03.960 --> 00:07:09.020 here we go are we going to get mouse 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:17.520 oh hey yeah we got something we got something 00:07:15.060 --> 00:07:22.380 we got an error it's too far both from a signaling and 00:07:20.340 --> 00:07:26.880 from a power perspective there's just a limit to how far you can push these 00:07:24.300 --> 00:07:31.440 things that is where these come in or maybe something like it but less 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:36.180 expensive what is it with Tanner and Linus USB experiments lately I don't get 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:40.560 it involved I do plan to talk about these in a 00:07:38.099 --> 00:07:44.099 moment but first let's actually validate that the ease coup does perform better 00:07:42.300 --> 00:07:47.940 than our DIY solution here's our 10 meter cable back 00:07:46.380 --> 00:07:51.259 all right here's some power to our hub 00:07:51.599 --> 00:07:56.819 is ease coup better than Linus oh wow 00:07:55.139 --> 00:08:01.620 yep already worked better everything worked perfectly but does it work as 00:07:59.520 --> 00:08:07.319 advertised can we go farther than 10 meters what's the biggest cable you got 00:08:04.740 --> 00:08:11.580 oh cool it's that's two cables there's three cables oh God I just kept adding 00:08:09.840 --> 00:08:16.080 cables on until it stopped working okay well how long is this one uh this is 50 00:08:13.860 --> 00:08:20.520 meters why don't we try within spec first all right this reminds me of some 00:08:18.479 --> 00:08:26.699 of the old like Wi-Fi range test videos we did in the NCIX parking lot except 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:30.720 USB range and there's no parking lot although 00:08:28.979 --> 00:08:35.099 I think we could reach the parking lot with this if we really wanted to let's 00:08:32.339 --> 00:08:41.279 see if it works wow okay all right okay okay 00:08:38.339 --> 00:08:45.680 this is worth contextualizing let's talk about just how far 50 meters is well we 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.680 gotta go 00:08:46.560 --> 00:08:53.779 we're going this way 60 bucks hey 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:53.779 kind of seems like a value 00:08:54.440 --> 00:09:00.060 should we see if we can make it to Creator Warehouse you said you had more 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:07.339 cables attached to this did it still work yes good gravy none of us are still 00:09:03.660 --> 00:09:07.339 back at the studio to uh 00:09:07.740 --> 00:09:13.980 well the screen cap is running and if the mouse is moving right now then 00:09:12.420 --> 00:09:19.399 imagine that we're doing like a dude perfect yeah yeah come on because you celebrate 00:09:20.700 --> 00:09:27.420 why don't we get on a call why don't you run in there and then we'll uh call and 00:09:25.620 --> 00:09:31.519 then I'll be right back because I need more cable uh Andrew you wait here sure 00:09:34.620 --> 00:09:38.180 okay is it working 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:45.959 yeah no oh no no just kidding it's not plugged 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:50.160 in you saw something setting up a device 00:09:48.420 --> 00:09:54.180 fire surge oh yeah move it down to the start menu 00:09:51.660 --> 00:09:59.339 where it is on sensible computers you're a top ped bar guy explained 00:09:58.140 --> 00:10:03.839 oh if I was wearing a high Vis vest or 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:07.740 something this would be fine here we go we're gonna try to make it all the way 00:10:04.980 --> 00:10:12.480 to Creator Warehouse over 200 feet 00:10:10.140 --> 00:10:14.600 we're testing again is the mouse plugged in 00:10:14.940 --> 00:10:22.519 yes I'm gaming am I clicking on anything is 00:10:19.620 --> 00:10:22.519 this useful yeah you just 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:31.320 selecting a bunch of things uh I am flipping impressed and there is no 00:10:29.459 --> 00:10:37.560 shortage of devices just like this that can be had for around this cost but as I 00:10:34.140 --> 00:10:39.839 alluded to before if all you need is a 00:10:37.560 --> 00:10:45.360 keyboard and mouse running you don't even necessarily need USB 2 so we can go 00:10:42.839 --> 00:10:49.320 down even more for price let's show you what we've got next this 00:10:47.880 --> 00:10:54.060 little Monoprice number which came recommended by Wendell does have some 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:58.399 disadvantages it only has a single female port on this side for example and 00:10:56.160 --> 00:11:06.480 I already told you guys it's dog slow but it requires no power on either side 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:07.920 also can run up to 50 meters Tanner can 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:14.959 you confirm I can confirm 00:11:10.640 --> 00:11:18.300 and it costs just 25 00:11:14.959 --> 00:11:20.100 actually no 25 where the heck were you 00:11:18.300 --> 00:11:23.959 shopping for this I'm on monoprice's website and it is twelve dollars 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:28.800 yeah comes in a two pack well never mind 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:32.579 you won't be fast charging your phone with one of these anytime soon but given 00:11:31.019 --> 00:11:35.820 the lengths that they can run at while being able to use category network 00:11:34.079 --> 00:11:39.959 cables that are so ubiquitous they practically grow on trees the 00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:44.940 possibilities are practically endless for these things the networking cables 00:11:42.300 --> 00:11:49.740 in your wall truly are a wonderful thing and while the real world applications of 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:54.300 having your mouse 50 meters away from your computer might be fairly limited 00:11:51.260 --> 00:11:56.279 twisted pair is really just that Twisted 00:11:54.300 --> 00:12:03.839 pairs of copper cables and they don't care what's running through them whether 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:05.040 it's USB HDMI network audio in fact in 00:12:03.839 --> 00:12:09.540 our new building that we're building out we're just putting RJ45 terminations 00:12:07.079 --> 00:12:13.260 everywhere the speakers are we're not sure if we're going to use IP speakers 00:12:10.980 --> 00:12:17.339 or regular speakers but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter it's 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:23.880 just copper you can actually even get pre-made Ethernet to all kinds of 00:12:20.579 --> 00:12:25.920 different terminations like XLR or RCA 00:12:23.880 --> 00:12:30.300 and as long as you follow the same pin out uh I mean it's not here anymore but 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:35.220 you guys saw it you can even mix and match to build your own cables being 00:12:32.760 --> 00:12:40.019 copper however there are some downsides metal cables are much more susceptible 00:12:37.980 --> 00:12:44.160 to electromagnetic interference for example now in most homes and small 00:12:42.300 --> 00:12:50.459 businesses that's not going to be a huge issue but for some it might be distance 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:52.380 as we've already discussed is also a 00:12:50.459 --> 00:12:57.180 factor depending on the strength of your transceivers Optical can go much farther 00:12:55.560 --> 00:13:02.519 than what is practical with copper cabling and as I discussed before if you 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:06.839 need performance you're going to need to go for something 00:13:03.959 --> 00:13:12.120 a little more exotic for everyone else though a simple cheap solution from 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:18.060 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