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take your PC and put it in another room

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it really is a surprisingly elegant solution with a lot of upsides noise and

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temperature all of a sudden are non-factors you don't need to worry

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about your system getting filled with all the dust you produce just by

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existing and for bonus points you can throw everything in a rack just to flex

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your mad it status however to get peripherals like your

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mouse and your keyboard your webcam your thumb drives working well you're going

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to need some way to bridge the USB Gap that now exists between your machine and

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you now these icron docks over here these

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things are fantastic but the thing that's not fantastic about them is the

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price so what about all those cheaper

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Solutions out there how do they compete for speed and distance

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wow the manner they operate in and how well they function might actually

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USB Raven 3124 is pretty easy to explain

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under normal circumstances your USB port

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has some conductors in it let's say four

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or nine or in the case of USBC some more those connect to wires when you plug in

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and transmit a signal over those wires to whatever your target device is

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here we take those wires and we plug them into the back of one of these boxes

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some encoding happens here it transmits

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that encoded data over fiber optic or Cat6 a cable to a receiver which decodes

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the data and then reconstructs it back to the original USB signal at least

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we're pretty sure that's how it works since that would explain both the xilinx

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fpgas that we found at the heart of both of these units as well as their

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astronomical price tag since the only thing we think it would reasonably be

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doing is handling the encoding and decoding that's associated with going

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from USB to another type of data transmission

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with fiber this system can do up to 200

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meters or a hundred meters on copper which is significantly farther than the

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standard range of three meters for USB 3.1 gen 1 or 5 meters for USB 2. but you

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don't need to have an expensive fpga powered device in order to break those

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limits take this Corning Optical USB cable for example these are available

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lengths of up to 50 meters which last I checked is a lot more than three and

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they need only a tiny electrical to Optical conversion chip on each side to

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take that USB data and transmit it long distances over fiber however while they

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definitely have some advantages over the icons like oh I don't know say for

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example size they also have some

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disadvantages like price yeah they're

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not actually really that much of a better deal and on top of that they're

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not easily serviceable in the field so the length you have is the length you

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get and as it turns out USB 2 and USB 3

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they are not the same thing you hook this USB 3 cable up to a USB 2 device

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you are Plum out of luck I mean to its

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credit at least the cable is a lot more durable so it's less likely to get

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broken in your walls walls speaking of walls if your house

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looks anything like this with Cat6 or even Cat5e cables buried in them and

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you're okay with USB 2.0 speeds and a distance limit of 50 meters there are a

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lot of very economical options for this

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meet the esku USB extender easy cool it

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doesn't matter the point is it's only 60 on Amazon which despite being the same

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price as our upcoming stubby screwdriver on LTT Store it transmits USB over

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copper but wait a minute if it's using

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copper what makes it different than any standard USB cable why can't you just

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make a USB cable longer well you see it's the same thing that

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makes any active cable different it uses a hub to act as a repeater now typically

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this would be a self-powered hub which the esku is but unpowered will actually

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do just fine here so long as it does what every other unpowered Hub seems to

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do and it lies to the host system about its unpowered nature

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the script says this is the part where we could try to build it ourselves

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what oh

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oh is this thing really that simple

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it's just pin to pin oh no no so you take that you take this

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and you take a hub and theoretically this should work

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really however it doesn't it didn't quite function but

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it could definitely see that there was a USB device being plugged in 50 feet away

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after some Shenanigans maybe the editor will show you on our security cameras we

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have got this working which is great because this is a pretty cool demo what

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you're looking at here is a little board that has a USB port on it some commodity

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Electronics wiring and they are hooked up to a keystone jack the reason this is

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important is because I'm going to show you guys how we can make this for

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ourselves all we've got to do is take a

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USB a to a cable plug that into our computer

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plug that into our USB port

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okay then we take any cable right

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because copper is copper in it

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go like this plug another standard USB

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cable into the other side and then oh connect it to a powered Hub and

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theoretically all we have to do is plug in some USB device and

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oh it works it's alive which raises some

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questions if all we need is a cheap powered Hub

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and a couple of like keystones

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why exactly is anybody spending sixty dollars on this

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you actually don't know do you is there a good is there isn't it I guess no I

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really have no idea especially when there's Alternatives we'll get into that

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in a minute I guess going off script here how far can we go

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though what is this one I said this was 35 feet right 10 meters that is well

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past what even USB 2 can do

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here we go are we going to get mouse

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oh hey yeah we got something we got something

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we got an error it's too far both from a signaling and

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from a power perspective there's just a limit to how far you can push these

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things that is where these come in or maybe something like it but less

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expensive what is it with Tanner and Linus USB experiments lately I don't get

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it involved I do plan to talk about these in a

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moment but first let's actually validate that the ease coup does perform better

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than our DIY solution here's our 10 meter cable back

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all right here's some power to our hub

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is ease coup better than Linus oh wow

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yep already worked better everything worked perfectly but does it work as

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advertised can we go farther than 10 meters what's the biggest cable you got

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oh cool it's that's two cables there's three cables oh God I just kept adding

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cables on until it stopped working okay well how long is this one uh this is 50

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meters why don't we try within spec first all right this reminds me of some

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of the old like Wi-Fi range test videos we did in the NCIX parking lot except

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USB range and there's no parking lot although

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I think we could reach the parking lot with this if we really wanted to let's

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see if it works wow okay all right okay okay

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this is worth contextualizing let's talk about just how far 50 meters is well we

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gotta go

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we're going this way 60 bucks hey

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kind of seems like a value

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should we see if we can make it to Creator Warehouse you said you had more

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cables attached to this did it still work yes good gravy none of us are still

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back at the studio to uh

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well the screen cap is running and if the mouse is moving right now then

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imagine that we're doing like a dude perfect yeah yeah come on because you celebrate

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why don't we get on a call why don't you run in there and then we'll uh call and

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then I'll be right back because I need more cable uh Andrew you wait here sure

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okay is it working

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yeah no oh no no just kidding it's not plugged

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in you saw something setting up a device

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fire surge oh yeah move it down to the start menu

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where it is on sensible computers you're a top ped bar guy explained

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oh if I was wearing a high Vis vest or

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something this would be fine here we go we're gonna try to make it all the way

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to Creator Warehouse over 200 feet

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we're testing again is the mouse plugged in

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yes I'm gaming am I clicking on anything is

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this useful yeah you just

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selecting a bunch of things uh I am flipping impressed and there is no

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shortage of devices just like this that can be had for around this cost but as I

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alluded to before if all you need is a

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keyboard and mouse running you don't even necessarily need USB 2 so we can go

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down even more for price let's show you what we've got next this

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little Monoprice number which came recommended by Wendell does have some

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disadvantages it only has a single female port on this side for example and

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I already told you guys it's dog slow but it requires no power on either side

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also can run up to 50 meters Tanner can

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you confirm I can confirm

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and it costs just 25

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actually no 25 where the heck were you

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shopping for this I'm on monoprice's website and it is twelve dollars

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yeah comes in a two pack well never mind

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you won't be fast charging your phone with one of these anytime soon but given

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the lengths that they can run at while being able to use category network

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cables that are so ubiquitous they practically grow on trees the

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possibilities are practically endless for these things the networking cables

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in your wall truly are a wonderful thing and while the real world applications of

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having your mouse 50 meters away from your computer might be fairly limited

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twisted pair is really just that Twisted

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pairs of copper cables and they don't care what's running through them whether

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it's USB HDMI network audio in fact in

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our new building that we're building out we're just putting RJ45 terminations

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everywhere the speakers are we're not sure if we're going to use IP speakers

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or regular speakers but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter it's

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just copper you can actually even get pre-made Ethernet to all kinds of

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different terminations like XLR or RCA

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and as long as you follow the same pin out uh I mean it's not here anymore but

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you guys saw it you can even mix and match to build your own cables being

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copper however there are some downsides metal cables are much more susceptible

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to electromagnetic interference for example now in most homes and small

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businesses that's not going to be a huge issue but for some it might be distance

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as we've already discussed is also a

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factor depending on the strength of your transceivers Optical can go much farther

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than what is practical with copper cabling and as I discussed before if you

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need performance you're going to need to go for something

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a little more exotic for everyone else though a simple cheap solution from

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Monoprice Prime cables or even as cool yep even you should work

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just fine and if neither of those suit your fancy and in fact you don't even

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you guys enjoyed this video you know what I'm doing it I'm throwing to the

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range test on the parrot AR drone in the

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NCIX parking lot it's not on our Channel I'm not going to get any AD Revenue but

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it's definitely got a similar vibe