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So it's Friday night and you're, you're broing out.

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You got this great idea.

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You're like, yeah, you know what, man?

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We should play some retro games.

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All of them.

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Because emulation isn't dying

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because of Nintendo lawsuits.

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Oh.

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Anyway, fortunately, you're a well-equipped retro gamer.

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You got all kinds of controllers

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for all kinds of amazing retro consoles.

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N64, SNES, original NES.

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Yes.

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Coleco.

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Wow.

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But there's only one problem.

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Even though you've got your emulation PC all set up

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and you got your retro arch.

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Oh, can he turn this?

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Oh, wow.

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This is terrible.

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Everything is terrible.

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You're going to have to come around.

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You got your retro arch all set up

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with all your games and everything.

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Then you're like, oh, how do I plug?

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How do I plug one of these into one of these?

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If only there was a solution.

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Oh, there it is.

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And we're going to tell you about it

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So this right here is the Bliss Box.

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In the box, you get the Bliss Box adapter,

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which has got one USB-B,

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so a USB-2-B at the back.

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Then it's got four HDMI connectors.

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Now, here's a funny thing that a lot of people don't know.

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There is a huge difference

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between physical connection standards

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and electrical connection standards.

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And while you might see an HDMI port,

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that's a totally normal HDMI port,

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and go, okay, so that's for video, right?

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You might not always be correct.

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And I have seen HDMI used for all kinds of things.

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I've even seen it used for PCI Express.

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That was pretty weird.

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In this case, all they needed was some kind of cheap,

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standard connector that they could get

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that had enough pins for everything.

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For everything they could possibly want to connect to it.

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And can you walk us through, what are all these?

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Some of them are fairly recognizable.

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I don't know if they're all labeled.

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That's SNES.

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This is SNES.

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This is NES.

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This looks like GameCube.

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There's the Coleco.

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They ship you the Bliss Box,

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and then this entire bouquet.

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Oh, thank you.

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Oh, it's so cute.

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Of adapters, so that you could have four controllers

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for pretty much any retro console you would want.

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And you don't have to go with,

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even the slightly different experience

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that you might get with something like

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an 8-bit Doh controller.

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Wait, is this from 8-bit Doh?

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Oh wow, no, this is from a SNES Mini.

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Yeah.

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Oh, so this is first party.

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Yeah.

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All right then.

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Does this have an adapter too?

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No.

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Oh.

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That was a mistake.

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We did not think of that.

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So in terms of setup, honestly, there's not a whole lot.

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You gotta configure these dip switches

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to determine whether you want four-play mode

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or single-play mode.

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And then it doesn't require external power.

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You just go ahead and pop that USB in the back.

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It supports a hundred plus types of controllers.

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So everything we've got here,

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I mean, with the exception of maybe this,

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is pretty mainstream from a retro gaming perspective.

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And it even supports advanced functionality

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like pressure-sensitive buttons on PS2 controllers

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in games that support that.

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And it has the ability to detect

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what kind of controller is in what type of port.

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So your emulator, just with a restart at worst,

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should be able to pick up exactly

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what all the button bindings are

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without any dinking around whatsoever.

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The last major benefit of this,

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aside from that it's just

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a single cable solution,

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instead of having a bunch of dongles

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hanging out of the front of your case,

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is that it is extremely low latency.

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So the idea, and we went and obtained

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this mammoth of a TV specifically

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so that we could evaluate that for ourselves,

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the idea is that you should have

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an as-good-as-original latency gaming experience.

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But I'm not sure if I buy it yet.

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Let's see.

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One thing we missed,

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apparently you need to reset the bliss box

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when you change the controllers around.

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I think there was a button here.

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So every one of them has a button right beside it.

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Not yet.

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Oh, I see what's going on.

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It's plugged into the keyboard.

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Oh, well, we don't have it plugged in at all.

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Dang it.

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When you're trying to reset it and stuff,

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it should say some kind of yellowy text

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at the bottom of the emulator.

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If that isn't showing up, maybe not plugged in.

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There we go.

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All right. Wait, what?

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Hold on. I'm just doing mine too.

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Is yours working?

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It was working for like a second.

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And then I touched it.

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Okay. So we had some problems and we have re-equipped.

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I went home.

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I got my SNES controllers, like OG SNES controllers,

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and my PS2 DualShocks.

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Also, we figured out what was going on

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with Luke's PlayStation controller.

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It's Mad Catz.

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There's also like a fray on the cable.

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There's some detection issues there.

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The N64 controller is trying to work.

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Yeah. The N64 controller is trying to work.

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Yeah. The N64 controller is trying to work.

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Turns out that was a retroarch issue.

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And then finally, the Coleco,

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it looks like these are very simple devices.

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There's nothing to really detect,

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but there's a manual override.

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So we're just gonna try again.

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Can we just play some SNES games?

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Because like the whole thing

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is it's supposed to be really low latency.

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Like there's some part of the USB standard that it's using

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that mostly gets ignored.

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That's supposed to allow it to be interrupt driven.

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It's so, theoretically, it's like the best thing

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ever.

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Okay. So can we just do Super Mario World?

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Yes, absolutely.

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Okay. Because within a very short period of time,

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I should be able to tell in this game.

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This is my jam.

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You probably have more experience here than me,

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but I've also played this game a bunch.

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Are you calling me old?

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No, it's a classic.

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Classic, shut up.

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You just were, you know,

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part of it when it first came out.

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That's all.

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This is feeling pretty good actually.

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I kind of zoned out just watching,

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but it looks like it's going well.

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Oops.

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Oh, why did I do that?

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Dang it.

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Stupid.

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No more super high points for you.

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Stupid.

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That's feeling good.

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Trying real hard right now.

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SNES Super Mario World.

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I'm impressed.

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Works good.

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I'm impressed.

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Zero issues from my stance.

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All right. Okay.

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You pick the game this time.

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You pick the game.

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Pick a game where you know how to play it and I don't.

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See, I'm not this old.

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We're going to do this one.

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You hyped me up on this.

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Okay. We can play another Linus game.

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I'm going to be cool.

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I'm going to be hairy.

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Okay.

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Flatland is like,

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I'm pretty into Flatland.

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You have to do Flatland.

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Which one even am I?

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I'm up here.

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What the heck?

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Okay. I don't remember any of the controls.

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Okay. I don't even know what just happened there.

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I think having the AIs in here might've been a mistake.

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Okay. What the heck, dude?

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Wait, was that, is that you?

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Yeah. There you go.

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Eat that bone, loser.

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That's right.

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Now you know what's up.

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Wait. Oh boy.

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Oh, I just picked up a heart.

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I think, I think I picked up a heart.

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Oh. Someone threw a log at me.

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Eat logs, loser.

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Oh crap. I just got bombed.

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I'm in danger.

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Whoa.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh.

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Watch out.

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Watch out. He's got the bomb.

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No.

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So anyway, this is-

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We should probably move on,

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but that's actually kind of fun.

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This is a game that I used to play.

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I miss games like that.

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Yeah.

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That are just like,

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you can kind of figure it out kind of right away.

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Stupid, dumb fun.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay. That was cool.

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I liked that.

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Also, no problem with the controllers.

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Yep. Everything seemed to work fine.

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Yep. Feeling good.

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Yeah. GameCube controllers are apparently like,

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Yeah.

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A thing now?

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Yeah.

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AudioCop.

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Yeah. Thank you. I heard it.

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Sorry. Which-

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I don't care.

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Yeah. Let's do Flower Cup.

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Jeez. What a guy.

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I'm funny. To me.

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See ya. See ya.

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Whatever. I have the crappy analog stick,

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which actually is making more of a difference

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than it was previously.

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So I've been playing this game

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with the classic controller on the Wii.

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And, um,

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I thought I sucked at this game,

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but actually I don't.

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That controller just is not actually very good.

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So wait.

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Because I'm perfectly good at this game now.

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The jank N64 controller you have right now

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is better than the classic one.

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Oh, so much better.

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I mean, part of it too, though, again, is muscle memory.

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Like there's no way I would have been able to overtake

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that truck on the classic controller.

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There we go. Come on, baby.

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Show me that first place.

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Yeah, you got it.

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I'm like gonna hopefully get six.

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I got completely wrecked.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.

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Ah.

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Oh.

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Oh, that was hard to watch.

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I actually hated this controller.

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Really?

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I did not realize.

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I didn't mind these controllers.

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This fight, I just got tools.

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I just didn't like how asymmetrical they were.

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Like it's a weird ergonomic situation here for me.

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Are you ready to play some burger time?

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No, I want to watch you play first.

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Oh.

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I think I'm dead now though.

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Yeah, super dead.

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But I put one.

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Okay.

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So you have to step on something

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and make it fall.

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Go, go, go.

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You're in.

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Okay.

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This seems like the place where I have the most options.

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They're on you though.

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I know.

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I just, I want them all behind me.

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Oh, that's a whole burger.

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Here he goes.

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Okay.

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We get to see what this is.

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Yeah.

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It is.

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It's free life.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, that's right.

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You all went that way.

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Good trick.

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Oh, no.

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Very good run.

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Very good run.

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Okay.

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I think we can make it.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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They had you.

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What?

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What?

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So I think really we can draw our conclusion, right?

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Yeah.

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If the objective of the foreplay from Bliss Box

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is low latency, multi-controller support,

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then I think they're a lot of the way there.

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There's still some software niggles

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that a lot of them are as much to do

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with third-party software as they are to do

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with Bliss Box's implementation.

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But it does mean that the user experience

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with what with the resetting controllers

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and restarting your software every time is not amazing.

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Yeah.

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And there's the cost issue.

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It is not cheap at 55 bucks for the box

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and then $7 each for the adapters.

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Especially when you compare it to something like this

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that costs anywhere from 15 to 25 bucks

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for a couple of controllers.

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I mean, seven times two is a lot of that cost,

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but the latency.

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And the ability to have this sitting on your desk

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and hot swap controllers,

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as much as you want.

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Even though you still have to have a lot of dongles

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sitting in a drawer somewhere.

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That's true.

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So I think they're on a good path.

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The retro gaming experience,

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aside from our choice of titles,

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actually a lot of fun.

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Yeah.

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So...

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I mean, BurgerTime was pretty mint.

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We're giving it a conditional thumbs up.

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Yeah.

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Conditional thumbs up.

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Still some work to do on the software and the ease of use.

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And luckily all the problems can be software

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or firmware updated.

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But controller support was actually pretty darn good,

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across the board for us.

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And we even got Dreamcast support, apparently,

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which is pretty cool.

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so you can play it perfectly.

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