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is that a mac in your pants or are you just happy to see me we've got a total

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of seven macbooks here and uh some are

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bigger than the others but does a bigger laptop always mean

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more performance apple's m1 pro and m1 max socs have

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already strutted their stuff for us in the 14 inch form factor

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now it's time to see the 16 inch

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you'd be surprised how much difference two inches can make

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from the outside the 16-inch macbook pro is perhaps disappointingly an enlarged

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version of the 14-inch there's no proportional in beginning of i o which

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is a bummer if you were hoping to be able to ditch the type c hubs and type c

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to a adapters that you have even worse we tried those type-c HDMI 2.1 adapters

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4k 60 with HDR is the best you're going to get out of these for the time being

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so you're effectively limited to HDMI 2.0 on all ports even on the 16-inch

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models it's kind of lame but it's been suggested that it's an internal

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bandwidth limitation from here though it's all positive or neutral starting

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with the notch where because it's no larger than the smaller models the

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16-inch display actually makes it practically disappear when you're focused on content there's also far less

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opportunity for egregiously large menus like davinci resolves to be cut off

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thanks to the larger menu bar which makes this an appealing choice for the

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mac using professional finally the keyboard is no larger which is something

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apple has always done as a matter of preference what we gain by keeping that

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smaller keyboard form factor is a much larger trackpad and bigger speakers

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which do in fact sound a bit better

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there's a little more and tighter bass which is saying something considering

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how good the 14 inch already sounds the obvious reason to buy the 16-inch

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macbook of course is the larger version of the pro display xdr it's got the same

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pixel density and brightness as the smaller model and looking at them side

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by side it looks like apple matched the panels extremely well in other areas

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like color and brightness too that should make anyone looking into the 14

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inch models breathe a sigh of relief considering in the past smaller models

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haven't always been given the same pedigree

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when it comes to the vastness of the screen the 16 inch reminds me of how it

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felt to sit in front of a 17 inch macbook back when they still existed

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i don't have one of those to show you right now but here's my old 15.4 inch

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for comparison the shrunken bezels really do help make it feel that much

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bigger and i don't miss my desktop monitor nearly as much as i did with

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this just like i don't miss my old jacket after getting the new swag it from

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ltdstore.com flexible and thick

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like i one day hope to be but there is one more major difference between the

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new 14 and 16 inch models that we need to talk about

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if you pop the hood wow they look shockingly similar don't they

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almost like they took the 14 inch and just resized it in photoshop

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and that means the cooler is proportionally much

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larger and it sits inside all that extra thermal mass offered by the bigger

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chassis this might just be the killer feature

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for the 16-inch assuming of course we hit thermal bottlenecks on our 14-inch

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testing as usual let's start with cinebench where it's obvious we haven't

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been thermally constrained up until now m1 pro and m1 max in both form factors

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share the same CPU cores after all and we get further confirmation with

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geekbench and same deal with blender too where we've got some minor variation but

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not much else the CPU cores on their own are simply not enough to saturate the

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14-inch cooler so if your workloads are only taxing the CPU you may not see a

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performance advantage with the 16-inch over the 14. it's when we move on to the

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GPU testing that things get interesting final cut pro sees the m1 max picking up

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an extra simultaneous prores stream or two over the 14 inch variants before

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dropping any frames which hints that the extra GPU horsepower is in fact being

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utilized here davinci resolve's render time gives us a

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shocker the high-end 16-inch m1 max wraps up over a minute faster than the

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14 and the low end m1 max is even faster

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than the high end 14. so the max GPU cores are in fact enough to

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saturate the 14 inch chassis strangely the 16 inch m1 pro has the opposite

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result it runs slower than the 14-inch not just

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in the export but in the timeline losing a frame per second

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what appears to be happening here is that because apple's only spinning up

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the fans once the chassis itself reaches a certain temperature

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by the time the larger machine has heated up enough to activate the fans

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the soc temperature is already so high that it has to throttle its performance

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we don't see this on m1 max because they spin up the fans much sooner cinema 4d

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redshift is your best bet for 3d modeling and rendering on apple silicon

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right now thanks to its support for apple's metal API but unfortunately it

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doesn't seem to hit the soc quite as hard as the previous test and so we see

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less difference between the two sizes it seems like redshift simply needs more

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optimization if it were fully utilized in the GPU it should be saturating the

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cooler and throttling on the 14-inch like we saw with resolve geekbench is

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more of the same with a mild increase in opencl but roughly run to run variants

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in metal again if it were fully utilizing the GPU we should see some

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throttling with this fan profile even though this is a short benchmark whoa

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hey future Anthony here capital f capital a remember how i said cinema 4d

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was your best bet for 3d rendering turns out i lied the blender 3.1 alpha just

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got updated with metal rendering support on apple silicon in monterey i couldn't

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let this video go up without testing that out could i

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the m1 is completely destroyed by the m1 pro and m1 max which we might expect

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from doubling the number of GPU cores twice

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but there's an anomaly the 1016 m1 pro consistently runs a little slower than

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the 8 and 14 core model this is probably down to the alpha

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status of the new renderer so take with salt as needed overall this is a great

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showing until we introduced the zephyrus m16

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in the bmw render its cuda result is 16 seconds faster while the optics renderer

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runs twice again as fast that laptop costs less than two thousand

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dollars but with blender we have one

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more trick up our sleeves gooseberry this test requires 12 gigabytes of RAM

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to run and this is where apple silicon shines thanks to its unified memory

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layout the zephyrus in both cuda and optics modes is faster than the m1 pro

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models but only just m1 max trounces it easily with over a 6

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minute lead on the 32 core models finally we found something apple's GPU

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is seriously good at without needing any extra hardware like the

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decoding and encoding blocks let's take these numbers with some salt though the

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implementation is very early and the devs say that performance optimizations

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are forthcoming okay back to the video we get a better look at this when we

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look at gaming where the 16-inch m1 max managed a higher frame rate than the

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zephyrus m16s rtx 3060 a first for apple

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silicon in all of our testing that's a good 15 FPS higher than the 14

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inch model can handle too suggesting that once again

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the max GPU is more than capable of overwhelming the 14's cooler although

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the pro is well within the capabilities of its cooler and sees no improvement

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between the two sizes cs go does see a small but measurable improvement on the

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higher end m1 max as well suggesting that the little bit of extra horsepower

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coupled with the little bit of extra thermal headroom lets it squeeze that little bit of extra

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speed out of an otherwise rosetta bottleneck title as messy as all this is

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mac gaming isn't as crazy as you might think so get

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subscribed because we've got a video on why coming soon but what if we

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sidestepped rosetta and used an apple silicon native app

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the dolphin emulator running super mario sunshine fits the bill but we're still

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not hitting the cooler that hard which suggests that there's another bottleneck

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probably in the translation from the older opengl API to apple's metal API

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we'd expect it to hit both the CPU and GPU hard because we're running the

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emulator without a frame rate cap but they're not so we see little difference

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between the sizes again which brings us to the overarching theme of this testing

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thermals we fired up redshift and blender simultaneously for this one and

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while redshift isn't fully utilizing the GPU it should be more than enough to

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bring it up to temperature sure enough even our low end m1 pro 14

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choked here maintaining the high 90s on the CPU cores and peaking at 100 degrees

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throughout the run apple as always seems

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to favor throttling instead of ramping the fans up even at that 100 degree mark

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the fan speed was merely fifty percent fun fact all of the m1 pro models choked

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hard enough to outright crash the redshift render every time

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and in one case it froze the machine entirely with a black screen

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given the thermal results i don't think that it's overheating necessarily

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perhaps there's a memory bandwidth issue causing contention on the lower end

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chips or maybe there's a power delivery issue none of the m1 max models

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exhibited this behavior so make of that what you will the top end

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14 inch m1 max model CPU cores were routinely allowed to hit 100 degrees

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while the redshift rendering performance suffered greatly the fans are a little

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more aggressive than m1 pro at around 75 at peak but

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that's a small comfort when you're still leaving performance on the table

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the 16 inch models on the other hand all performed admirably the top end soc may

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have hit 100 degrees a lot but the fans barely hit 50 percent and the redshift

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render only took about 10 longer than when we were running it on its own

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suggesting that it's only being mildly throttled less so than the 14 inch m1

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max interestingly the GPU clusters weren't allowed to hit the 90 degree

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mark on any of our macbooks in this test which hints that apple's thermal

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management is aiming for somewhere around 90 degrees is the upper limit for

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the soc itself taken together this suggests that with the fans cranked up

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the 16 inch would actually be totally capable of handling a combined load like

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this without batting an eye sadly this

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isn't the default behavior but you can force it to max speed using a

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third-party program like tg pro surface

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temperatures were also significantly lower on all of our 16-inch models

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although the exhaust temperatures were still in the 50s crucially the hot spot

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is well under 50 degrees on the highest end 16 inch and the underside is just a

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hair over 40 at its hottest which means that even if you're stressing the

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machine you're not going to be burning your pants off if it's in your lap

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apple's done a fantastic job managing skin temperature on this generation of

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macbooks and again if they're a little more aggressive with the fan they can

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have their cake and eat it too the noise isn't even that bad imo at a 200 premium

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over a similarly equipped 14 inch macbook pro the 16 inch models represent

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a reasonable option if you value screen real estate but as we've seen

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the thermal constraints of the 14 inch chassis rarely come into play until you

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upgrade to the m1 max so choosing which size you get for an m1 pro mostly comes

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down to form factor not performance in fact if you're okay trading storage

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for screen size the base model 16 inch is the same price as the 14 for the same

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soc however i don't think i could recommend less than one terabyte of storage for a

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professional class machine even over the course of our benchmarking

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for these videos we ended up running out of storage

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your mileage may of course vary apple's engineers are good at their jobs

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since abandoning the pursuit of ever thinner designs

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they pulled off a solid chassis with good cooling and paired it with next

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level battery life thanks to apple silicon

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while we're still in the transition phase of the rollout it's almost complete and there's reason to be

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optimistic about apple silicon maybe not quite as optimistic as apple is not yet

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anyway but optimistic nonetheless it's expensive for what you're getting that

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much is clear only NVIDIA editing does apple silicon truly shine the way apple

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claims it does and far cheaper pc notebooks currently outperform it in

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other tasks like 3d modeling and gaming but the entire m1 pro and max lineup has

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a unique combination of performance efficiency and endurance rolled into a

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form factor that's pleasing to use with fewer compromises than we're used to

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you're also getting a display that's unmatched in the pc world speakers that

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are legitimately some of the best in the industry and a tightly integrated

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ecosystem that speaks to many it's really a combination that no one

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else is in a position to match right now and

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let's be honest if any of that is a deal maker for you

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as it is for me then you're probably already eyeing one

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of these new macbooks and if anything remotely resembling the

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apple logo makes you recoil and disgust

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you're probably looking for reasons to hate it instead i'm simply not going to

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change your mind but regardless of what your feelings about them are

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apple is moving in the right direction and this is a major step towards what

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guys go check out our initial review of the 14-inch m1 pro macbooks if you

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haven't already so you can get more context for today's 16-inch review