WEBVTT 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:06.919 James loves ergonomic keyboards but he doesn't understand why I've spent 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:08.960 hundreds Okay thousands on mechanical 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:12.840 keyboards switches key caps and other accessories so when eom maker sponsored 00:00:11.040 --> 00:00:18.760 this video I wanted to get his opinion on two of the more standard sizes and 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:20.439 layouts eom Maker's tide 65 and Tide 75 00:00:18.760 --> 00:00:27.720 mechanical keyboards I'm going to start with the eom maker tide 65 I come in now 00:00:23.560 --> 00:00:30.960 later James later later uh this is a 65% 00:00:27.720 --> 00:00:34.000 board triple mode aluminum gasket 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:36.280 mounted mechanical keyboard we've got a 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:41.559 pretty standard quick start guide it's actually pretty sweet folds 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:44.039 out into a giant quick start map yes 00:00:41.559 --> 00:00:47.320 these are qmk via compatible I know that that is not only my biggest complaint 00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:50.920 with evil maker but one of your biggest complaints is that it's proprietary 00:00:48.879 --> 00:00:55.199 software well that's finally over oh this one is actually a barebones kit so 00:00:53.840 --> 00:01:00.120 what I really want to look at before James gets over here is the 75 another 00:00:57.559 --> 00:01:06.680 quick start guide and then this nice purple with side printed Legend also 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:11.720 aluminum chassis very nice we got our typical cable USBC to usba a then we've 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:15.920 also got my favorite kind of key cap and switch puller the double-sided guy 00:01:13.840 --> 00:01:19.400 really easy to use with these thin wires and when you need switches you just grab 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:24.119 them and pop them out super simple super easy James is going to come in and check 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:28.240 out the unfinished keyboard so that we can kind of explain what's inside of 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:32.720 this thing and why I actually care about the multitude of layers within this 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:35.920 keyboard okay here's the thing plof it's not that I I don't understand why to 00:01:34.600 --> 00:01:41.040 spend money on a great mechanical keyboard I get it the weight oh God the 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:45.560 colors the the clickiness the the feel the sounds I get it I like it I want it 00:01:43.399 --> 00:01:49.399 what I don't understand cuz I don't have any experience with it is like you said 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:54.280 the gasket mounting and the O-rings and the luing liven that's what I just don't 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:58.000 have experience with I appreciate it but I just never have done that myself 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:01.640 today's the day today is the day well kind of we're going to at least open it 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:04.520 and look through it the tide keyboards only come preassembled but I've taken 00:02:03.119 --> 00:02:09.720 this one apart so you can look at it it's actually really simple you've just got two pieces of the case you got the 00:02:08.200 --> 00:02:14.519 top and the bottom and then what we've got is all of these layers so this is 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:18.519 our top plate so Flexi Cut means that there's little Cuts in the plate and 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:23.200 that allows for more flexibility why would you want that I thought the whole 00:02:20.360 --> 00:02:27.760 thing with keyboards is rigidity kind of the whole thing about keyboards 00:02:24.720 --> 00:02:29.959 realistically is customizability and 00:02:27.760 --> 00:02:34.239 making it feel the way you want it to feel and sound and so some people like 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:38.360 all of that give I personally don't I like a more rigid plate and then as for 00:02:36.319 --> 00:02:42.159 gaskets what we've got here are these little socks what these do is they help 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:48.000 keep it in place and they help add a little bit of cushion okay so you're saying with the socks on there's less 00:02:45.879 --> 00:02:51.159 play with it moving like in these directions but there's more give in it 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:56.040 moving in this up and down Direction up and down yeah because it's got that little bit of rubber that'll help kind 00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:59.080 of sink in when it moves so that's gasket mounted yeah that's gasket 00:02:57.640 --> 00:03:03.640 mounted I always thought it had to do with the switches no no no no no it's on 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:09.080 the plate so now we've got just our PCB right except it's not just the PCB there 00:03:05.799 --> 00:03:11.200 are five layers of sound dampening 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:15.080 materials oh my gosh okay so this is case foam this as you can see has some 00:03:12.799 --> 00:03:19.440 more vertical height and so the switches are going to sink down right onto that 00:03:16.760 --> 00:03:23.840 is this sound damping material because although there's a whole range of 00:03:21.200 --> 00:03:28.760 different like keyboard sounds is there is the like consensus that you don't 00:03:25.760 --> 00:03:30.720 want an echoey kind of Reverb sound it's 00:03:28.760 --> 00:03:36.439 personal preference so I mean yeah Reverb and Echo is is not as desired 00:03:33.480 --> 00:03:42.040 what you want is just a solid um Range coming between like a clack or click 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:43.720 down to like a creamy th mhm what is 00:03:42.040 --> 00:03:48.040 something that nobody ever wants like a ringing ping like spring ping yeah and 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:51.480 that's why people Lube their Springs so that's a big one and yeah echo or Reverb 00:03:50.640 --> 00:03:55.879 probably the main things and that's what all this foam kind of helps with so now we just shuffle them all together except 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:59.040 for the top plate and put the switches on pretty much yeah let's say we're 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:03.200 assembling from scratch take your bottom case thank you all right put your case 00:04:01.239 --> 00:04:06.720 foam down running the ribbon cables through it so that goes through here 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:10.599 here you can just run that through and plug it in the ergonomics of this well 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:14.200 these aren't really ribbon cables but these tiny connectors are honestly my 00:04:12.760 --> 00:04:17.759 scariest part they're weak and they're hard to pull out and if you're using a 00:04:15.920 --> 00:04:22.000 tool to pull them out you can scrape the PCB which you don't want to do um cool 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:25.680 but yeah that was easy enough then we throw this guy on normally if you're 00:04:24.080 --> 00:04:31.440 also not comfortable with doing this most keyboard companies are going to have a kind of a tutorial or guide and 00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:34.960 if the company doesn't then there's so many YouTubers and personalities out 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:39.240 there that they're probably you're going to be able to find an assembly guide pretty easy for step-by-step 00:04:37.479 --> 00:04:44.360 instructions next layer we want to put our nice poron foam in here poron poron 00:04:42.919 --> 00:04:49.759 my dad used to call me that was a kid poron y on and then after that we'll put 00:04:47.960 --> 00:04:54.840 our plate on okay and then let's put four into the corners oh God I don't 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:59.800 know man so you're putting it in at an angle if you put it in just like 00:04:57.479 --> 00:05:03.720 straight down you have the easy side okay we can switch turn it flip it 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:07.680 around switches on this table I'm just going to jiggle jiggle and press it's 00:05:05.840 --> 00:05:10.880 okay yeah let me do it yeah yeah you do did you bend that one uh slightly you're 00:05:09.400 --> 00:05:15.160 getting it bent it's okay if you ever bend a pin just flatten it out with some 00:05:12.600 --> 00:05:18.960 pliers no problem oh yeah that one doesn't go in very easily Vindicated 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:23.919 he's right he's right oh come on mine went in so easy here we go does this 00:05:22.400 --> 00:05:26.960 puppy come with switches or they totally sold separately or how's it work uh yeah 00:05:25.880 --> 00:05:33.160 they come with switches they're hot swappable though so if you want a different switch easy look at that well 00:05:30.840 --> 00:05:35.960 that was easy yeah no problem and then do they have switch options depending on 00:05:34.840 --> 00:05:40.160 the color you choose you're going to get a different switch and then since these are hot swappable we're just popping 00:05:38.960 --> 00:05:44.520 these in we're not having to solder anything you can just get different switches down the line take them all out 00:05:43.199 --> 00:05:48.479 put the new ones in you're good to go Bob's your uncle that's it see how easy they go in now that it's all aligned 00:05:47.479 --> 00:05:52.960 though that's why I always do the corners first this is like a like the 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:57.880 game of Go like I can grab I can grab some territory over here you're not 00:05:55.440 --> 00:06:00.720 allowed to left of these switches once you start putting them in though it's 00:05:59.400 --> 00:06:04.800 pretty easy though right like now you're putting these in no problem no problem 00:06:02.919 --> 00:06:07.960 also uh some of these foam layers when you're fully assembling it for the first 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:10.599 time they're a little sticky so you can like kind of get it in place and it'll 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:15.000 stick in place and you don't have to worry about sliding the layer all around what kind of switches do you like you 00:06:13.080 --> 00:06:20.560 like tactile or clicky really I'm more of a typist than 00:06:16.840 --> 00:06:22.960 a than a a wasy guy I kind of go all 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:27.400 over the place sometimes I like linear um and sometimes I like tactile but I 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:32.400 don't like clicky and I want to hear my keyboard I don't want to hear my switches if that makes no it doesn't 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:36.960 what I don't get it I guess what I'm trying to do that I never explained is I'm trying to lead with the two pins 00:06:35.440 --> 00:06:40.240 that are going to go in so I do put it in ever so slightly angled up with a 00:06:38.840 --> 00:06:44.520 little bit of a roll yeah with a little bit of a roll yeah now you got it when 00:06:42.199 --> 00:06:48.840 did the power come on here when probably just hit a button these are south facing 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:52.800 RGB the cool thing about those is that this is a side Legend So it's going to 00:06:50.440 --> 00:06:57.280 light up on the side I'm leaving this a space bar to you oh yeah it looks like 00:06:54.599 --> 00:07:00.520 the space bar is upside down which one thing we didn't really talk about is 00:06:58.479 --> 00:07:04.360 stabilizers these were already mounted into the stabilizers being on this large 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:08.960 Space Bar Key these little white guys over here yeah cuz if there were no stabilizers to keep the whole Long Key 00:07:07.280 --> 00:07:13.000 stable exactly it would wobble so when people are lubing up their switches 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:16.160 that's that's like on the spring on the switch itself that's right like inside 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:22.400 here that's right so we don't have a switch opener here but what you normally do is you pop open these four tabs on 00:07:20.080 --> 00:07:26.280 the side um and then this top housing comes off and you take the spring off 00:07:24.520 --> 00:07:31.000 and then what you Lube is the inside of it as well as the stem so this guy here 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:34.599 and your Springs as well it's nice to lube those otherwise and that's purely 00:07:32.599 --> 00:07:39.240 for the sound they do feel a little nicer as well like I find that switches 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:43.960 that are unlubed feel more scratchy yeah but the thing is in the last couple 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:46.360 years Factory lubing like these Feel 00:07:43.960 --> 00:07:50.360 Factory lubed and it's gotten a lot better okay to the point where like I 00:07:47.960 --> 00:07:55.080 don't even buy unlubed switches anymore I just buy lubed Factory Lube switches 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:58.960 and I just run them sounds tus process what is the typical effect soundwise of 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:04.280 looping them uh sounds a little deeper and a little less scratchy typically 00:08:01.400 --> 00:08:07.120 yeah let's get that top on oh yeah beautiful just like okay here we go yeah 00:08:05.960 --> 00:08:10.440 there you go then that's that then we got those four bolts oh yeah bolts 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:15.080 that's good I was like is this just gravity like yeah some are 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:19.919 magnetic yeah wow all right now let's get the key 00:08:17.840 --> 00:08:25.120 caps on it's all we got to do all right we're done there they are 00:08:23.039 --> 00:08:28.879 both keyboards fully assembled you got purple though I did I like purple is 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:32.080 there any other difference looks like you have more keys than I do yeah so the 00:08:30.360 --> 00:08:37.320 main difference here is that this one's a 75% and this one's a 65% you've got 00:08:34.839 --> 00:08:42.680 the F Keys I've got the F keys I like that little known trick F4 in Excel or 00:08:40.640 --> 00:08:44.880 Google Sheets is repeat last action that's pretty good it's really good 00:08:43.839 --> 00:08:49.120 you're like delete this row and you just want to do that a bunch more times oh that's that's a really good one actually 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:53.480 you can do all of that you're not limited if you hit the function key I 00:08:51.560 --> 00:08:59.000 hate using layers though I know me too so if but if you hit the function key 00:08:55.000 --> 00:09:00.160 you can go function alt 4 and that's alt 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:04.160 f4 essentially or function alter beside each other yeah yeah so you can do them 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:09.320 over there and there like it's not the worst um this is nice yeah the knob it's 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:12.920 good to is is that knob larger let's compare knobs this my knob is larger 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:18.040 larger diameter knob other than that they're basically the same they both have qmk via compatibility which is a 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:21.800 huge upgrade for emaker most of their other keyboards are using proprietary 00:09:19.880 --> 00:09:28.279 software if you don't like layers you'll probably never use qmk via but if you do 00:09:24.959 --> 00:09:29.920 like layers and macros then with qmk via 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:34.720 you can set up whatever you want you can assign Keys you can change the RGB you 00:09:31.680 --> 00:09:37.200 can do tons of stuff and most other big 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:39.800 Boutique keyboards use qmk just cuz I don't like layers doesn't mean I 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:44.680 wouldn't use that to program this the way I want maybe I want to move a couple Keys around fair enough you have a 00:09:42.560 --> 00:09:49.800 gradient I do so I've got a nice anodized purple coating very pretty very 00:09:47.839 --> 00:09:53.600 pretty what do I have you have an electr foric coating and look at this mirror 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:58.920 finish in the bottom that's pretty wait wait hi wow there it is good weight on 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:03.200 these guys yeah they're full aluminum shell full aluminum chassis which is not 00:10:01.680 --> 00:10:06.160 always the case for eil maker they use a lot of plastics it does help keep the 00:10:04.839 --> 00:10:09.360 cost down we'll get to the price at the very end they're the same 00:10:09.920 --> 00:10:16.240 switches and then they've also got the same 4,000 milliamp battery which is a 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:20.959 lot if you have the RGB on it's not going to last nearly as long they've also both got south facing RGB so you 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:24.800 get that cool shine through on the legend oh yeah looks pretty cool it does 00:10:23.160 --> 00:10:29.079 see the tea is blinking for some reason you can they're basically the same so 00:10:26.800 --> 00:10:35.040 now the only thing left to do is this a little home for the USB dongle deliver 00:10:32.040 --> 00:10:37.519 that is so nice to have thank you my 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:41.519 only complaint is uh the same as a lot of aluminum CK uh keyboards is that 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:44.360 there's no adjustable feet oh cuz so if you don't like this typing angle you're 00:10:42.760 --> 00:10:48.800 kind of just hooped it's more ergonomic to have it flat than I know up there so 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:52.079 you should anyway it's fine but I like up a little bit which which one are you 00:10:50.920 --> 00:10:57.040 going to take if I'm going to have at my desk I would take the extra keys and I also like purple so fair enough that's 00:10:55.480 --> 00:11:01.120 perfect what the heck I have page up and down and I have end but I don't have 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:06.040 home oh yeah you are missing a home key you might also be missing a delete oo 00:11:03.880 --> 00:11:09.240 yeah I use home and and a lot and I use delete a lot I use delete all the time 00:11:07.800 --> 00:11:15.279 Mac people don't even know what that is no they're fools it's like backspace but 00:11:11.800 --> 00:11:17.639 it goes the other way so good actually 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:21.560 have that on my thumb on my oh that's genius that's why I like the I like the 00:11:19.839 --> 00:11:26.320 thumb clusters now with all this being done and said would you switch from ergo 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:31.480 to a straight just regular cuz you can get mechanical ergonomic keyboards yeah 00:11:28.800 --> 00:11:35.320 uh mine's Optical so happens to be but um no at my desk I think I put enough 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:40.639 hours in it that I want to be an ergo keyboard but at home I actually have a 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:42.279 lesser mechanical keyboard and I it's 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:45.519 pretty old and cheesy at this point with his RGB and stuff and I would love to 00:11:44.079 --> 00:11:51.040 replace that with something like one of these especially when you have those like 00:11:48.680 --> 00:11:54.800 Curly nice coiled cables those cables are cool you could take your keyboard at 00:11:52.800 --> 00:12:00.240 home and mod it a bit yourself we have our own uh keyboard diet on LT it has a 00:11:57.120 --> 00:12:02.279 plastic chass rather I'd rather get a 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:05.160 kit like this that's all exploded out and spend quality time with a family 00:12:03.959 --> 00:12:10.240 member like my little sister or something building it together it's great for stuff like that good gift idea 00:12:08.079 --> 00:12:14.399 that way yeah cuz I mean as you saw like that was pretty simple yeah there's not 00:12:12.560 --> 00:12:17.160 that much to it I think people get a little worried when they're taking any 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:21.320 kind of electronics apart especially when it's more expensive um but like 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:25.000 that was such a simple kit it's just a bunch of foam layers you plug the PCB in 00:12:23.279 --> 00:12:30.600 in a couple spots and then you put put the switches in and you're basically done boom easy and we're basically done 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:36.600 that's right except for the price oh it's 120 for the 65 and $140 for the 75 00:12:35.079 --> 00:12:39.600 bro you're not even in the realm of Ergo keyboards yet I know I'm well aware 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:44.440 that's actually pretty reasonable normally I I was actually expecting $350 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:47.399 $400 so sweet a few years ago that would probably be the case for something like 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:55.040 this but the prices have come so far down on full aluminum uh Wireless full 00:12:51.959 --> 00:12:56.639 mechanical hot swap keybard RGB that you 00:12:55.040 --> 00:13:00.120 can get them for a little over 100 bucks now you can get cheaper ones um but 00:12:58.920 --> 00:13:03.800 something like this is pretty reasonable thanks supermaker for sponsoring this video if you want to check out these 00:13:02.760 --> 00:13:07.279 keyboards they'll be linked in the description below and thank you guys for 00:13:05.880 --> 00:13:10.720 watching if you want to look out another video maybe check out the dino tab 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:19.800 75x you know that's Tusk and Raiders baby Star 00:13:16.800 --> 00:13:19.800 Wars no relation