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James loves ergonomic keyboards but he doesn't understand why I've spent

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hundreds Okay thousands on mechanical

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keyboards switches key caps and other accessories so when eom maker sponsored

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this video I wanted to get his opinion on two of the more standard sizes and

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layouts eom Maker's tide 65 and Tide 75

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mechanical keyboards I'm going to start with the eom maker tide 65 I come in now

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later James later later uh this is a 65%

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board triple mode aluminum gasket

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mounted mechanical keyboard we've got a

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pretty standard quick start guide it's actually pretty sweet folds

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out into a giant quick start map yes

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these are qmk via compatible I know that that is not only my biggest complaint

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with evil maker but one of your biggest complaints is that it's proprietary

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software well that's finally over oh this one is actually a barebones kit so

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what I really want to look at before James gets over here is the 75 another

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quick start guide and then this nice purple with side printed Legend also

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aluminum chassis very nice we got our typical cable USBC to usba a then we've

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also got my favorite kind of key cap and switch puller the double-sided guy

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really easy to use with these thin wires and when you need switches you just grab

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them and pop them out super simple super easy James is going to come in and check

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out the unfinished keyboard so that we can kind of explain what's inside of

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this thing and why I actually care about the multitude of layers within this

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keyboard okay here's the thing plof it's not that I I don't understand why to

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spend money on a great mechanical keyboard I get it the weight oh God the

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colors the the clickiness the the feel the sounds I get it I like it I want it

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what I don't understand cuz I don't have any experience with it is like you said

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the gasket mounting and the O-rings and the luing liven that's what I just don't

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have experience with I appreciate it but I just never have done that myself

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today's the day today is the day well kind of we're going to at least open it

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and look through it the tide keyboards only come preassembled but I've taken

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this one apart so you can look at it it's actually really simple you've just got two pieces of the case you got the

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top and the bottom and then what we've got is all of these layers so this is

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our top plate so Flexi Cut means that there's little Cuts in the plate and

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that allows for more flexibility why would you want that I thought the whole

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thing with keyboards is rigidity kind of the whole thing about keyboards

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realistically is customizability and

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making it feel the way you want it to feel and sound and so some people like

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all of that give I personally don't I like a more rigid plate and then as for

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gaskets what we've got here are these little socks what these do is they help

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keep it in place and they help add a little bit of cushion okay so you're saying with the socks on there's less

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play with it moving like in these directions but there's more give in it

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moving in this up and down Direction up and down yeah because it's got that little bit of rubber that'll help kind

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of sink in when it moves so that's gasket mounted yeah that's gasket

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mounted I always thought it had to do with the switches no no no no no it's on

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the plate so now we've got just our PCB right except it's not just the PCB there

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are five layers of sound dampening

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materials oh my gosh okay so this is case foam this as you can see has some

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more vertical height and so the switches are going to sink down right onto that

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is this sound damping material because although there's a whole range of

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different like keyboard sounds is there is the like consensus that you don't

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want an echoey kind of Reverb sound it's

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personal preference so I mean yeah Reverb and Echo is is not as desired

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what you want is just a solid um Range coming between like a clack or click

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down to like a creamy th mhm what is

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something that nobody ever wants like a ringing ping like spring ping yeah and

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that's why people Lube their Springs so that's a big one and yeah echo or Reverb

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probably the main things and that's what all this foam kind of helps with so now we just shuffle them all together except

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for the top plate and put the switches on pretty much yeah let's say we're

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assembling from scratch take your bottom case thank you all right put your case

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foam down running the ribbon cables through it so that goes through here

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here you can just run that through and plug it in the ergonomics of this well

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these aren't really ribbon cables but these tiny connectors are honestly my

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scariest part they're weak and they're hard to pull out and if you're using a

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tool to pull them out you can scrape the PCB which you don't want to do um cool

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but yeah that was easy enough then we throw this guy on normally if you're

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also not comfortable with doing this most keyboard companies are going to have a kind of a tutorial or guide and

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if the company doesn't then there's so many YouTubers and personalities out

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there that they're probably you're going to be able to find an assembly guide pretty easy for step-by-step

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instructions next layer we want to put our nice poron foam in here poron poron

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my dad used to call me that was a kid poron y on and then after that we'll put

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our plate on okay and then let's put four into the corners oh God I don't

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know man so you're putting it in at an angle if you put it in just like

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straight down you have the easy side okay we can switch turn it flip it

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around switches on this table I'm just going to jiggle jiggle and press it's

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okay yeah let me do it yeah yeah you do did you bend that one uh slightly you're

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getting it bent it's okay if you ever bend a pin just flatten it out with some

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pliers no problem oh yeah that one doesn't go in very easily Vindicated

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he's right he's right oh come on mine went in so easy here we go does this

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puppy come with switches or they totally sold separately or how's it work uh yeah

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they come with switches they're hot swappable though so if you want a different switch easy look at that well

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that was easy yeah no problem and then do they have switch options depending on

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the color you choose you're going to get a different switch and then since these are hot swappable we're just popping

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these in we're not having to solder anything you can just get different switches down the line take them all out

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put the new ones in you're good to go Bob's your uncle that's it see how easy they go in now that it's all aligned

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though that's why I always do the corners first this is like a like the

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game of Go like I can grab I can grab some territory over here you're not

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allowed to left of these switches once you start putting them in though it's

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pretty easy though right like now you're putting these in no problem no problem

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also uh some of these foam layers when you're fully assembling it for the first

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time they're a little sticky so you can like kind of get it in place and it'll

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stick in place and you don't have to worry about sliding the layer all around what kind of switches do you like you

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like tactile or clicky really I'm more of a typist than

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a than a a wasy guy I kind of go all

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over the place sometimes I like linear um and sometimes I like tactile but I

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don't like clicky and I want to hear my keyboard I don't want to hear my switches if that makes no it doesn't

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what I don't get it I guess what I'm trying to do that I never explained is I'm trying to lead with the two pins

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that are going to go in so I do put it in ever so slightly angled up with a

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little bit of a roll yeah with a little bit of a roll yeah now you got it when

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did the power come on here when probably just hit a button these are south facing

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RGB the cool thing about those is that this is a side Legend So it's going to

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light up on the side I'm leaving this a space bar to you oh yeah it looks like

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the space bar is upside down which one thing we didn't really talk about is

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stabilizers these were already mounted into the stabilizers being on this large

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Space Bar Key these little white guys over here yeah cuz if there were no stabilizers to keep the whole Long Key

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stable exactly it would wobble so when people are lubing up their switches

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that's that's like on the spring on the switch itself that's right like inside

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here that's right so we don't have a switch opener here but what you normally do is you pop open these four tabs on

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the side um and then this top housing comes off and you take the spring off

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and then what you Lube is the inside of it as well as the stem so this guy here

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and your Springs as well it's nice to lube those otherwise and that's purely

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for the sound they do feel a little nicer as well like I find that switches

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that are unlubed feel more scratchy yeah but the thing is in the last couple

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years Factory lubing like these Feel

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Factory lubed and it's gotten a lot better okay to the point where like I

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don't even buy unlubed switches anymore I just buy lubed Factory Lube switches

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and I just run them sounds tus process what is the typical effect soundwise of

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looping them uh sounds a little deeper and a little less scratchy typically

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yeah let's get that top on oh yeah beautiful just like okay here we go yeah

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there you go then that's that then we got those four bolts oh yeah bolts

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that's good I was like is this just gravity like yeah some are

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magnetic yeah wow all right now let's get the key

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caps on it's all we got to do all right we're done there they are

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both keyboards fully assembled you got purple though I did I like purple is

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there any other difference looks like you have more keys than I do yeah so the

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main difference here is that this one's a 75% and this one's a 65% you've got

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the F Keys I've got the F keys I like that little known trick F4 in Excel or

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Google Sheets is repeat last action that's pretty good it's really good

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you're like delete this row and you just want to do that a bunch more times oh that's that's a really good one actually

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you can do all of that you're not limited if you hit the function key I

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hate using layers though I know me too so if but if you hit the function key

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you can go function alt 4 and that's alt

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f4 essentially or function alter beside each other yeah yeah so you can do them

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over there and there like it's not the worst um this is nice yeah the knob it's

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good to is is that knob larger let's compare knobs this my knob is larger

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larger diameter knob other than that they're basically the same they both have qmk via compatibility which is a

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huge upgrade for emaker most of their other keyboards are using proprietary

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software if you don't like layers you'll probably never use qmk via but if you do

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like layers and macros then with qmk via

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you can set up whatever you want you can assign Keys you can change the RGB you

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can do tons of stuff and most other big

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Boutique keyboards use qmk just cuz I don't like layers doesn't mean I

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wouldn't use that to program this the way I want maybe I want to move a couple Keys around fair enough you have a

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gradient I do so I've got a nice anodized purple coating very pretty very

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pretty what do I have you have an electr foric coating and look at this mirror

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finish in the bottom that's pretty wait wait hi wow there it is good weight on

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these guys yeah they're full aluminum shell full aluminum chassis which is not

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always the case for eil maker they use a lot of plastics it does help keep the

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cost down we'll get to the price at the very end they're the same

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switches and then they've also got the same 4,000 milliamp battery which is a

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lot if you have the RGB on it's not going to last nearly as long they've also both got south facing RGB so you

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get that cool shine through on the legend oh yeah looks pretty cool it does

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see the tea is blinking for some reason you can they're basically the same so

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now the only thing left to do is this a little home for the USB dongle deliver

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that is so nice to have thank you my

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only complaint is uh the same as a lot of aluminum CK uh keyboards is that

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there's no adjustable feet oh cuz so if you don't like this typing angle you're

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kind of just hooped it's more ergonomic to have it flat than I know up there so

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you should anyway it's fine but I like up a little bit which which one are you

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going to take if I'm going to have at my desk I would take the extra keys and I also like purple so fair enough that's

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perfect what the heck I have page up and down and I have end but I don't have

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home oh yeah you are missing a home key you might also be missing a delete oo

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yeah I use home and and a lot and I use delete a lot I use delete all the time

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Mac people don't even know what that is no they're fools it's like backspace but

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it goes the other way so good actually

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have that on my thumb on my oh that's genius that's why I like the I like the

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thumb clusters now with all this being done and said would you switch from ergo

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to a straight just regular cuz you can get mechanical ergonomic keyboards yeah

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uh mine's Optical so happens to be but um no at my desk I think I put enough

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hours in it that I want to be an ergo keyboard but at home I actually have a

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lesser mechanical keyboard and I it's

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pretty old and cheesy at this point with his RGB and stuff and I would love to

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replace that with something like one of these especially when you have those like

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Curly nice coiled cables those cables are cool you could take your keyboard at

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home and mod it a bit yourself we have our own uh keyboard diet on LT it has a

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plastic chass rather I'd rather get a

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kit like this that's all exploded out and spend quality time with a family

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member like my little sister or something building it together it's great for stuff like that good gift idea

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that way yeah cuz I mean as you saw like that was pretty simple yeah there's not

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that much to it I think people get a little worried when they're taking any

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kind of electronics apart especially when it's more expensive um but like

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that was such a simple kit it's just a bunch of foam layers you plug the PCB in

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in a couple spots and then you put put the switches in and you're basically done boom easy and we're basically done

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that's right except for the price oh it's 120 for the 65 and $140 for the 75

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bro you're not even in the realm of Ergo keyboards yet I know I'm well aware

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that's actually pretty reasonable normally I I was actually expecting $350

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$400 so sweet a few years ago that would probably be the case for something like

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this but the prices have come so far down on full aluminum uh Wireless full

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mechanical hot swap keybard RGB that you

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can get them for a little over 100 bucks now you can get cheaper ones um but

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something like this is pretty reasonable thanks supermaker for sponsoring this video if you want to check out these

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