WEBVTT 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:09.120 retro gaming is really taking off and as good as modern displays have become 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:11.519 there's something about the big boy crt 00:00:09.120 --> 00:00:18.000 that has enthusiasts paying hundreds or even thousands of dollars to game like 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:20.080 it's 1999. i would know i just bought 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:23.519 one and made a video about it but that's 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:27.760 stupid what you heard me right 00:00:25.119 --> 00:00:31.599 people are out there like him paying top dollar for displays like 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:37.920 this one that you probably didn't even know existed check this thing out this 00:00:33.680 --> 00:00:39.079 is an hd crt tv straight out of 2003. 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:46.559 this boy is 16x9 runs at 1080i resolution and has 00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:49.920 input legs so low that david says he 00:00:46.559 --> 00:00:51.520 doesn't even bother with his lg c10 OLED 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:55.280 anymore and that sir 00:00:53.120 --> 00:00:59.760 is where you lost me it can't be that good can it i am here 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:03.870 to convince you otherwise just like i'm here to convince you of our sponsor segs 00:01:02.480 --> 00:01:07.200 i wonder what's my line is that 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:14.400 AMD if you're looking to upgrade or build a new gaming pc the game on AMD 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:18.960 sales event is on right now until august 5th where you can get their best deals 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:23.400 on AMD ryzen and Radeon products learn more today at the link down below 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:35.759 there are a few key factors that drive enthusiasts to seek out the best crts 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:40.560 they can find they have next to nowhere input lag their pixel response times are 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:45.680 instantaneous and they have high contrast ratios since like an OLED 00:01:43.119 --> 00:01:50.240 display the pixels if you could even call them that simply do not emit light 00:01:48.240 --> 00:01:54.399 when they are off that's right guys before OLED took center stage crts were 00:01:52.960 --> 00:01:58.320 actually the technology with the outstanding contrast ratio something 00:01:56.399 --> 00:02:04.159 that average consumers gave up for thinner lighter lcds but even as someone 00:02:00.960 --> 00:02:07.119 who recently blew 3gs on a top tier 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:10.239 gaming crt monitor i'm still not even a little convinced that i should go back 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:15.680 to daily driving one of these monstrosities i mean lcd sucks it was an 00:02:13.440 --> 00:02:21.680 inferior technology from the get-go fair enough but OLED is here now and some of 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:27.599 the recent ones are amazing i mean we are now getting most of the brightness 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:30.080 of mini led with the inky blacks and the 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:34.720 response times of crt we actually measured this thing at what like eight 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:40.400 milliseconds that's incredible on top of that i would actually argue that the 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:42.959 blacks of an OLED are black er simply 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:48.160 because of the way that the display absorbs surrounding light sure in a 00:02:46.160 --> 00:02:53.280 completely darkened room the crt might get close but definitely not under these 00:02:50.480 --> 00:02:57.360 conditions i mean how can you possibly want a game on this 00:02:54.959 --> 00:03:01.280 when you can game on this the thing is it's not about the input 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:06.720 lag more than response time there's nothing that looks like a crt crt 00:03:04.720 --> 00:03:10.400 is its own thing there's something that happens some kind of magic i don't know 00:03:08.480 --> 00:03:15.120 what it is actually i do know what it is that when you play an old game on a crt 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:18.800 it just looks so much better than on an OLED for now we need to play some games 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:23.680 i have so many things i want to show you but i want to start with the reason i 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:29.120 got into this tv which is 7th generation gaming so ps3 xbox 360. those games look 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:32.879 absolutely horde on modern displays and this is the best display for that we're 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:36.799 gonna have some tests where we're upscaling from 240 and 40i going up and 00:03:35.519 --> 00:03:40.560 we're gonna have some stuff where we're going down from 1080p 00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:44.000 down and what i want to convince you is that there is definitely a place in your 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:48.239 living room for this bad boy in my living room i 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:53.599 mean i can tell you right now i don't miss the flicker i don't miss the wine 00:03:50.959 --> 00:03:58.159 yeah i get that people are all like crt blacks crt black perfect blacks in a 00:03:56.319 --> 00:04:04.879 light controlled environment maybe but we actually saw that with samsung's qdo 00:04:00.480 --> 00:04:08.080 led versus lg's w OLED in a lit room 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:11.040 certain display panel technologies 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:16.720 reflect more light back than others and lg's w OLED really is black one of the 00:04:14.959 --> 00:04:20.479 nightmares of crt gaming is getting different 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:23.520 devices to display properly on it 00:04:21.440 --> 00:04:30.000 yeah we're gonna have a full Floatplane exclusive about david's octopus of 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:31.840 scalars and adapters and you can kind of 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:36.000 walk the Floatplane peeps through it but that's beyond the scope of this 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:40.320 video i think wild tell me what you're experiencing looking at these two 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:47.600 displays i strongly prefer the more contrasty look of the blacks on the OLED 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:50.639 however the motion is definitely better 00:04:47.600 --> 00:04:52.560 on the crt is this an interlaced signal 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:56.720 this should be yes unless something changed 00:04:53.759 --> 00:05:00.800 wait the OLED's more responsive well that's the thing about hdcrts they have 00:04:59.280 --> 00:05:05.919 the best tubes but they actually have the dumbest brains so as it comes 00:05:03.919 --> 00:05:09.520 there's a processing a scaling that happens on pretty much every resolution 00:05:07.919 --> 00:05:12.800 so i wanted you to experience it as it would be out of the box 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:17.360 luckily you can turn that off but then you just 00:05:14.960 --> 00:05:22.880 want to give your your display only 1080i signals and so that's why i have 00:05:20.080 --> 00:05:26.880 that scalar i can get all kinds of of different resolutions different uh 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:30.240 refresh rates but then it all lands on what something this tv can look good at 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:36.160 it's noticeable though we measured about 40 milliseconds of delay in our testing 00:05:33.520 --> 00:05:39.840 but when i turned off the processing it went down to eight milliseconds which is 00:05:38.080 --> 00:05:43.360 pretty much exactly the same as the OLED yeah that's perfect then yeah oh should 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:46.639 we turn that off then yes we should were you testing me did you want to see if i 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:50.720 would notice i wanted to give you the absolute best experience i wanted to 00:05:48.479 --> 00:05:55.120 walk you through and blow your mind but i think it was good to show you that you 00:05:53.440 --> 00:05:59.360 kind of have to do little fan dangling yourself to get the best experience got 00:05:57.280 --> 00:06:03.280 it i'm so sorry but 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:07.600 the contrasty look the more modern anti-glare reflective coatings i think 00:06:05.919 --> 00:06:10.240 it looks better i'm sorry i wouldn't check this 00:06:09.039 --> 00:06:14.720 well why don't we try a different game let's try something 1080p 00:06:12.080 --> 00:06:17.680 on the ps3 something that's sprite based sure and uh let's see what you'll like 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:22.560 there okay sprites are going to be disadvantage modern panels this was 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:28.960 actually the first game that blew me away so it's a 1080p game but it's based 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:33.600 on a 40i game so it's scaled internally it's got smooth smoothing on but there's 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:38.160 something about sprite-based games that i think just look better on crts like 00:06:36.479 --> 00:06:43.680 they're not even close yeah there's a magic that 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:49.840 happens with sprites in particular because it looks great on the OLED like 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:53.199 this looks fantastic uh no i disagree 00:06:49.840 --> 00:06:54.880 actually okay it looks like 00:06:53.199 --> 00:07:00.240 absolute ass like ew like look how bad 00:06:57.520 --> 00:07:05.520 wolverine's face looks on there yeah you can see the individual pixels well not 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:11.199 even you can't it's all kind of smoothed and blurred together yeah 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:13.280 that is nasty now the background mr 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:19.360 clown face or whatever back here looks all right and obviously text 00:07:17.039 --> 00:07:22.639 is way better on the OLED but particularly uh i don't know i don't 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:26.639 know my marvel super heroes yeah colossus here look at his look at his 00:07:25.440 --> 00:07:31.759 face you know what it reminds me of those 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:34.639 photo to painting filters that you can apply that's what it reminds me of it 00:07:33.840 --> 00:07:40.639 looks awful okay that's a win for the crt whoa 00:07:39.280 --> 00:07:43.759 tell me something though i noticed you're not applying any scan line 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:47.280 filters or anything like that to the OLED could we get it closer we 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:51.440 definitely can and we can play around with that there's a few issues that 00:07:49.520 --> 00:07:56.160 happen with like the upscaling and down scaling when i add scan lines i can get 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:59.120 scan lines to look good on the hdcrt so additional ones to kind of emulate more 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:02.400 of an older look and i can get them to look good on the OLED i can't get 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:06.639 skylines to look good on both at the same time got it okay so we're not 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.720 necessarily putting its best foot forward yeah 00:08:07.919 --> 00:08:14.479 but there's no question natively that the crt looks much better all right what am 00:08:13.039 --> 00:08:18.479 i looking at here this is a fun comparison because now we're getting 40i 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.960 out of the dreamcast we're going to a retro tinker upscaling to 1080p on these 00:08:21.280 --> 00:08:27.520 two displays but this is getting its original 480i output so this is it's 00:08:25.520 --> 00:08:30.879 best put forward this is probably it's best put forward and that's pretty damn 00:08:29.039 --> 00:08:34.719 close to its best foot forward something about yellows just doesn't look as good 00:08:32.800 --> 00:08:38.800 on the OLED i can't tell if it's a calibration issue or if it's something 00:08:36.479 --> 00:08:43.279 else i frankly don't perceive much difference between the 480i native image 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:47.040 and the upscaled 1080i image which i think is a good thing yeah if what 00:08:44.800 --> 00:08:50.160 they're going for is true to the original resolution of the game fidelity 00:08:48.880 --> 00:08:57.279 then i think they've actually done an outstanding job here as for the 00:08:52.839 --> 00:08:59.920 OLED somehow it lacks the color punch 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:05.120 is that possibly lost in the conversion it's possible but it's going through the 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:06.880 same chain pretty much until the scaler 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:10.560 but the scaler shouldn't be adding any color pluth described it as kind of 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:16.080 washed out looking and it is that looks like ass on the crt compared 00:09:14.160 --> 00:09:18.160 to the better blacks on the outlet so which one would you give it to of the 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:23.360 three i'd say this is just a straight oh huh 00:09:20.959 --> 00:09:28.320 interesting you're over skin yeah off yeah in that case i'd give it to the 00:09:24.880 --> 00:09:30.560 hdcrt i hate overscan overscan sucks no 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:35.680 should never have existed this game to me is kind of the best case scenario of 00:09:32.800 --> 00:09:40.880 the dreamcast it looks sharper on the hdcrt than the 4x3 one barely barely but 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:45.600 i think that like the clarity is really there the color is great and the OLED 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:49.120 just looks yeah just kind of blurry it looks upscaled to me whereas on the 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:52.560 hdcrt it looks good it looks tight all right let's give 00:09:50.880 --> 00:09:56.880 you a different dreamcast game that you might have a different experience with 00:09:54.160 --> 00:10:02.480 this one in my quick testing is the one dreamcast game that i think looks way 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.839 better on the 4x3 than the hdcrt oh 100 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:08.080 you need the scan you need the scan lines it immediately makes this image 00:10:05.839 --> 00:10:13.920 much more attractive it's particularly noticeable for me in the depth of field 00:10:10.800 --> 00:10:16.320 bokeh effect backgrounds yeah this just 00:10:13.920 --> 00:10:21.519 looks like a blurry crappy low resolution texture totally that looks 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:26.000 like bokeh i find the trees too like there's the illusion of the details on 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:29.839 the tree feels real the foliage whereas in this you can just see it's like paper 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:34.240 yes it does not look right these have more depth totally well here's a fun 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:38.800 comparison that you might want to try we could keep the dreamcast playing it in 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:44.480 4di on this tv and we could pull up the hd remaster on the ps3 and compare those 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:50.079 two playing that versus this that's an interesting dynamic that i find really 00:10:47.279 --> 00:10:55.360 appealing on the hdcrt is hd remasters of old games because you 00:10:52.880 --> 00:11:01.360 can get the widescreen you can get the upscale the sharper image but you get 00:10:57.760 --> 00:11:04.240 the crt effect sonic adventure 2. 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:08.160 the black is so much better yeah this it really is not an ideal situation for 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:12.160 this it's not but it looks a lot better 100 i mean that's the thing about the 00:11:09.839 --> 00:11:17.200 real world it's messy and you're often not in the ideal situation sometimes the 00:11:14.560 --> 00:11:20.959 sun is up and you want a game sorry this one's pretty close to me i might 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:24.000 even give it to the OLED i think this one's pretty darn close 00:11:23.040 --> 00:11:27.440 again close is pretty impressive for 20 year 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.600 old tv i know you like final fantasy 10 quite a 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:37.360 bit i think it's your last final dance you like the final fantasy hd remaster 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:39.360 is good but it has that weird too sharp 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:42.480 effect i forgot my copy of final fantasy 10. i got excited we have a copy of 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:44.880 final fantasy 10 do you want to see what conditions 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:51.040 remember those kits to uh to polish the bot 00:11:51.279 --> 00:11:57.440 you ain't polishing this one i don't know my buff out 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:01.839 just put a little tape you know it's fine what do you think of the graphics 00:11:59.760 --> 00:12:06.160 though there's no question in my mind that i 00:12:03.760 --> 00:12:08.959 would play it on this really not even close this is a cut scene let's get to 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:13.440 somewhere where you can see more textures the textures on this 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:18.240 there the muddiness is is just like exaggerated or something because the 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:23.040 display is so sharp i like the softness of this image and i find it again 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:27.600 there's a uniformity to the image that 00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:29.920 this does better you know what man i uh 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:35.200 i'm sorry but i gotta take the i gotta take the clean digital look here fair 00:12:32.079 --> 00:12:38.079 enough the facial hair there it looks 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:41.839 like a smear on his face whereas here i can see discrete hairs for better or for 00:12:39.920 --> 00:12:46.320 worse for better or for worse and like his chain looks like 00:12:43.760 --> 00:12:50.240 links okay that's pretty linky too but that's linkier i hear what you're saying 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:53.760 and it's definitely a preference thing yeah but like i 00:12:51.680 --> 00:12:57.760 like that the hair is soft like hair doesn't look like that that looks weird 00:12:55.760 --> 00:13:01.279 and paper like there's paper freaking things that are coming out of 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:05.680 his head that looks like a blurry mess that looks like hair the foliage looks 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:09.600 better here yeah on the crt okay toss up i'll take it as a tie 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:14.240 let's go back one more generation oh we're going back another generation to 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:15.839 my day we're going back to my childhood 00:13:14.240 --> 00:13:21.200 what you're currently playing on is an analog super nt so it's an fpga device 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:25.200 designed to play super nintendo on a modern display 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:30.959 i actually think this is one of the best use cases for the hdcrt let's compare oh 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:35.279 it looks so bad on the OLED oh it looks so bad it looks just right on the hccrt 00:13:33.839 --> 00:13:39.200 it's not even an actual super nintendo we can compare to an actual 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:44.480 super nintendo i think this is one of the most fun use cases is these modern 00:13:41.760 --> 00:13:49.440 revised consoles playing on an hdcrt they look really good i don't know if i 00:13:46.880 --> 00:13:52.800 can deny it that's what i'm saying walk me through what you're feeling and the 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:57.839 difference between all three tvs Linus i can't even look at the OLED 00:13:57.839 --> 00:14:04.480 i'm honestly shocked i thought this was gonna be you were gonna pull choose the 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:09.360 OLED more often than you did i like to think that i'm capable of being 00:14:05.839 --> 00:14:12.160 objective and i can tell when 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:16.079 something is not as good and there's no question that the higher resolution 00:14:14.160 --> 00:14:20.320 upscaling works really well in this game not in certain situations not in text 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:23.920 yeah one thing we would be remiss not to mention is the fact that modern 00:14:22.560 --> 00:14:28.160 emulation has solved a lot 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:32.720 of these problems yeah shout out emulation community 00:14:29.920 --> 00:14:37.360 phenomenal you guys are amazing like bringing people's childhoods back 00:14:34.880 --> 00:14:41.680 one bug at a time and better than it was like 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:46.240 in a lot of consoles emulation is so much better than the actual hardware is 00:14:43.839 --> 00:14:50.160 like i'm pretty yeah like super mario world widescreen you've seen that stuff 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:54.320 right yeah 100 you can change the render resolution on a lot of ps1 stuff but 00:14:51.839 --> 00:14:58.160 then actually fix the geometry issues so that's an interesting one too i kind of 00:14:55.839 --> 00:15:02.480 want to show you the ps5 just got some ps1 games so it has emu like backwards 00:15:00.399 --> 00:15:06.880 compatibility now and so i want to show you what an actual ps1 game looks on all 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:12.880 of these versus the ps5 emulation on these recently playstation has offered 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:14.480 their plays plus pro gold plus three who 00:15:12.880 --> 00:15:20.000 cares what it's called service where you can now play ps1 and ps2 games not 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:23.199 just like ripped they're an uh higher rendered or they're they're rendered at 00:15:21.680 --> 00:15:26.959 a higher resolution so that they're rendered at 1440p 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:30.480 the problem is at actual 1450p it kind of looks like 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:34.800 crap the geometry looks really weird you can see like the way it pops yeah the 00:15:32.160 --> 00:15:38.560 way that objects kind of shift around a little bit 00:15:35.920 --> 00:15:44.000 it's not that noticeable on the htc rt yeah that looks bad it looks horrible 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:47.920 i mean it's it's not great but it is definitely that effect is reduced when 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:52.560 it's sharper a line moving like this 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:58.240 is absolutely more noticeable and it's interesting because again i might choose 00:15:54.880 --> 00:16:02.639 the 4x3 crt but i like the extra clarity 00:15:58.240 --> 00:16:05.120 that the 1440p offers yeah so like miley 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:08.240 cyrus told us this is the best of both worlds 00:16:06.079 --> 00:16:12.240 really a miley reference what year is it she's still cool is she 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:16.720 tell me what you're feeling wow look at his skin looks 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:21.839 it's like mottled yeah and that i guess that was just how they shaded yeah and 00:16:18.880 --> 00:16:26.079 it just it looks awful so bad but on the hdcrt it doesn't look how smooth that 00:16:24.079 --> 00:16:30.880 gradient on her hair looks it looks it looks almost like correct 00:16:28.639 --> 00:16:36.800 you know what it reminds me of is it reminds me of like a vector image versus 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:39.360 a scaled jpeg clearly that's 00:16:36.800 --> 00:16:44.480 vector based that is mathematically shaded yeah whereas here it doesn't look 00:16:42.079 --> 00:16:48.639 mathematically shaded it looks like blown up low resolution texture totally 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:52.399 100 based on this 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:56.480 30 second gameplay snippet which one do you think you'd want to play i would 00:16:54.079 --> 00:17:00.720 play the hdcrt no question that's what i'm saying absolutely no question heck 00:16:59.839 --> 00:17:07.520 yes i think we're going to stick to one final one and it's a game you know and 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:13.120 love cross code okay and i think the htcrt has a strong case for hd 2d 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:19.679 games what's interesting about this game is that i first played it on pretty much 00:17:15.919 --> 00:17:21.679 that display okay on an lgo led 65 inch 00:17:19.679 --> 00:17:25.760 in my living room the color does look better immediately to me on the OLED ooh 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:31.520 wow and you really notice as you pan from 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:37.440 side to side the geometry issues and the warping of the image on the hdcrt 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:42.320 so it's not really a matter of the style of the art it's more a matter of what 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:44.720 kind of display the developer was working with when they mastered the 00:17:43.679 --> 00:17:50.960 content i would play this on OLED every time you would yeah oh no not me this is 00:17:49.120 --> 00:17:54.559 definitely an hccrt game for me no question just that you lose so much 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:58.480 detail in the sprites compared to the OLED i actually think the sprites look 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:03.840 better on this one i think that's fair that kind of looks like it has that integer scaling it's clean 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:08.160 clean pixels i think though i like the softening look again i i'm i'm now 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:11.840 pretty accustomed to that when i play retro games is the crt look where 00:18:10.320 --> 00:18:15.760 everything's a little blended and in some games i liked the additional warmth 00:18:14.080 --> 00:18:20.080 of the image on the crt but here it just looks yellow it does not look correct 00:18:17.760 --> 00:18:24.880 it's so interesting i love that you like the OLED better because it's no contest 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:27.840 to me like i much prefer the overall impression this gives me but i just 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:31.840 think that goes to show you that like there is no one display for all 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:36.559 games like like you said it's the whatever the game was designed for is 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:42.000 what you probably should play it on we're at the end of the experience Linus 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:44.480 what uh what has been your takeaway from 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:49.120 using an hdcrt on a multitude of different consoles that i think it's 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:52.240 super cool that you have this collection that i can borrow when i need to make a 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:57.120 video i will not be making my own collection 00:18:54.799 --> 00:19:03.200 and i will not have one of these in the living room i do not think so it's just 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.240 oh man i just i can't justify the space 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:11.200 and we didn't even talk about the power consumption i just can't justify it no i 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:15.360 think for most people it does not make sense but if you play a lot of retro 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:19.760 games and you play a lot of widescreen retro stuff it's pretty freaking sweet 00:19:17.760 --> 00:19:23.919 it has its moments and this is 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