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retro gaming is really taking off and as good as modern displays have become

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there's something about the big boy crt

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that has enthusiasts paying hundreds or even thousands of dollars to game like

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it's 1999. i would know i just bought

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one and made a video about it but that's

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stupid what you heard me right

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people are out there like him paying top dollar for displays like

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this one that you probably didn't even know existed check this thing out this

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is an hd crt tv straight out of 2003.

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this boy is 16x9 runs at 1080i resolution and has

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input legs so low that david says he

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doesn't even bother with his lg c10 OLED

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anymore and that sir

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is where you lost me it can't be that good can it i am here

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there are a few key factors that drive enthusiasts to seek out the best crts

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they can find they have next to nowhere input lag their pixel response times are

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instantaneous and they have high contrast ratios since like an OLED

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display the pixels if you could even call them that simply do not emit light

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when they are off that's right guys before OLED took center stage crts were

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actually the technology with the outstanding contrast ratio something

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that average consumers gave up for thinner lighter lcds but even as someone

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who recently blew 3gs on a top tier

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gaming crt monitor i'm still not even a little convinced that i should go back

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to daily driving one of these monstrosities i mean lcd sucks it was an

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inferior technology from the get-go fair enough but OLED is here now and some of

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the recent ones are amazing i mean we are now getting most of the brightness

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of mini led with the inky blacks and the

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response times of crt we actually measured this thing at what like eight

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milliseconds that's incredible on top of that i would actually argue that the

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blacks of an OLED are black er simply

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because of the way that the display absorbs surrounding light sure in a

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completely darkened room the crt might get close but definitely not under these

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conditions i mean how can you possibly want a game on this

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when you can game on this the thing is it's not about the input

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lag more than response time there's nothing that looks like a crt crt

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is its own thing there's something that happens some kind of magic i don't know

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what it is actually i do know what it is that when you play an old game on a crt

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it just looks so much better than on an OLED for now we need to play some games

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i have so many things i want to show you but i want to start with the reason i

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got into this tv which is 7th generation gaming so ps3 xbox 360. those games look

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absolutely horde on modern displays and this is the best display for that we're

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gonna have some tests where we're upscaling from 240 and 40i going up and

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we're gonna have some stuff where we're going down from 1080p

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down and what i want to convince you is that there is definitely a place in your

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living room for this bad boy in my living room i

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mean i can tell you right now i don't miss the flicker i don't miss the wine

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yeah i get that people are all like crt blacks crt black perfect blacks in a

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light controlled environment maybe but we actually saw that with samsung's qdo

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led versus lg's w OLED in a lit room

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certain display panel technologies

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reflect more light back than others and lg's w OLED really is black one of the

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nightmares of crt gaming is getting different

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devices to display properly on it

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yeah we're gonna have a full Floatplane exclusive about david's octopus of

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scalars and adapters and you can kind of

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walk the Floatplane peeps through it but that's beyond the scope of this

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video i think wild tell me what you're experiencing looking at these two

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displays i strongly prefer the more contrasty look of the blacks on the OLED

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however the motion is definitely better

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on the crt is this an interlaced signal

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this should be yes unless something changed

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wait the OLED's more responsive well that's the thing about hdcrts they have

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the best tubes but they actually have the dumbest brains so as it comes

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there's a processing a scaling that happens on pretty much every resolution

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so i wanted you to experience it as it would be out of the box

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luckily you can turn that off but then you just

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want to give your your display only 1080i signals and so that's why i have

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that scalar i can get all kinds of of different resolutions different uh

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refresh rates but then it all lands on what something this tv can look good at

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it's noticeable though we measured about 40 milliseconds of delay in our testing

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but when i turned off the processing it went down to eight milliseconds which is

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pretty much exactly the same as the OLED yeah that's perfect then yeah oh should

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we turn that off then yes we should were you testing me did you want to see if i

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would notice i wanted to give you the absolute best experience i wanted to

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walk you through and blow your mind but i think it was good to show you that you

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kind of have to do little fan dangling yourself to get the best experience got

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it i'm so sorry but

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the contrasty look the more modern anti-glare reflective coatings i think

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it looks better i'm sorry i wouldn't check this

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well why don't we try a different game let's try something 1080p

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on the ps3 something that's sprite based sure and uh let's see what you'll like

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there okay sprites are going to be disadvantage modern panels this was

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actually the first game that blew me away so it's a 1080p game but it's based

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on a 40i game so it's scaled internally it's got smooth smoothing on but there's

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something about sprite-based games that i think just look better on crts like

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they're not even close yeah there's a magic that

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happens with sprites in particular because it looks great on the OLED like

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this looks fantastic uh no i disagree

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actually okay it looks like

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absolute ass like ew like look how bad

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wolverine's face looks on there yeah you can see the individual pixels well not

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even you can't it's all kind of smoothed and blurred together yeah

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that is nasty now the background mr

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clown face or whatever back here looks all right and obviously text

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is way better on the OLED but particularly uh i don't know i don't

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know my marvel super heroes yeah colossus here look at his look at his

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face you know what it reminds me of those

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photo to painting filters that you can apply that's what it reminds me of it

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looks awful okay that's a win for the crt whoa

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tell me something though i noticed you're not applying any scan line

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filters or anything like that to the OLED could we get it closer we

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definitely can and we can play around with that there's a few issues that

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happen with like the upscaling and down scaling when i add scan lines i can get

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scan lines to look good on the hdcrt so additional ones to kind of emulate more

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of an older look and i can get them to look good on the OLED i can't get

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skylines to look good on both at the same time got it okay so we're not

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necessarily putting its best foot forward yeah

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but there's no question natively that the crt looks much better all right what am

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i looking at here this is a fun comparison because now we're getting 40i

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out of the dreamcast we're going to a retro tinker upscaling to 1080p on these

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two displays but this is getting its original 480i output so this is it's

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best put forward this is probably it's best put forward and that's pretty damn

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close to its best foot forward something about yellows just doesn't look as good

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on the OLED i can't tell if it's a calibration issue or if it's something

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else i frankly don't perceive much difference between the 480i native image

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and the upscaled 1080i image which i think is a good thing yeah if what

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they're going for is true to the original resolution of the game fidelity

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then i think they've actually done an outstanding job here as for the

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OLED somehow it lacks the color punch

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is that possibly lost in the conversion it's possible but it's going through the

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same chain pretty much until the scaler

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but the scaler shouldn't be adding any color pluth described it as kind of

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washed out looking and it is that looks like ass on the crt compared

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to the better blacks on the outlet so which one would you give it to of the

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three i'd say this is just a straight oh huh

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interesting you're over skin yeah off yeah in that case i'd give it to the

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hdcrt i hate overscan overscan sucks no

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should never have existed this game to me is kind of the best case scenario of

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the dreamcast it looks sharper on the hdcrt than the 4x3 one barely barely but

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i think that like the clarity is really there the color is great and the OLED

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just looks yeah just kind of blurry it looks upscaled to me whereas on the

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hdcrt it looks good it looks tight all right let's give

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you a different dreamcast game that you might have a different experience with

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this one in my quick testing is the one dreamcast game that i think looks way

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better on the 4x3 than the hdcrt oh 100

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you need the scan you need the scan lines it immediately makes this image

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much more attractive it's particularly noticeable for me in the depth of field

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bokeh effect backgrounds yeah this just

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looks like a blurry crappy low resolution texture totally that looks

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like bokeh i find the trees too like there's the illusion of the details on

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the tree feels real the foliage whereas in this you can just see it's like paper

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yes it does not look right these have more depth totally well here's a fun

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comparison that you might want to try we could keep the dreamcast playing it in

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4di on this tv and we could pull up the hd remaster on the ps3 and compare those

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two playing that versus this that's an interesting dynamic that i find really

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appealing on the hdcrt is hd remasters of old games because you

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can get the widescreen you can get the upscale the sharper image but you get

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the crt effect sonic adventure 2.

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the black is so much better yeah this it really is not an ideal situation for

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this it's not but it looks a lot better 100 i mean that's the thing about the

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real world it's messy and you're often not in the ideal situation sometimes the

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sun is up and you want a game sorry this one's pretty close to me i might

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even give it to the OLED i think this one's pretty darn close

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again close is pretty impressive for 20 year

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old tv i know you like final fantasy 10 quite a

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bit i think it's your last final dance you like the final fantasy hd remaster

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is good but it has that weird too sharp

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effect i forgot my copy of final fantasy 10. i got excited we have a copy of

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final fantasy 10 do you want to see what conditions

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remember those kits to uh to polish the bot

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you ain't polishing this one i don't know my buff out

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just put a little tape you know it's fine what do you think of the graphics

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though there's no question in my mind that i

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would play it on this really not even close this is a cut scene let's get to

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somewhere where you can see more textures the textures on this

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there the muddiness is is just like exaggerated or something because the

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display is so sharp i like the softness of this image and i find it again

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there's a uniformity to the image that

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this does better you know what man i uh

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i'm sorry but i gotta take the i gotta take the clean digital look here fair

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enough the facial hair there it looks

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like a smear on his face whereas here i can see discrete hairs for better or for

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worse for better or for worse and like his chain looks like

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links okay that's pretty linky too but that's linkier i hear what you're saying

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and it's definitely a preference thing yeah but like i

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like that the hair is soft like hair doesn't look like that that looks weird

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and paper like there's paper freaking things that are coming out of

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his head that looks like a blurry mess that looks like hair the foliage looks

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better here yeah on the crt okay toss up i'll take it as a tie

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let's go back one more generation oh we're going back another generation to

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my day we're going back to my childhood

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what you're currently playing on is an analog super nt so it's an fpga device

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designed to play super nintendo on a modern display

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i actually think this is one of the best use cases for the hdcrt let's compare oh

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it looks so bad on the OLED oh it looks so bad it looks just right on the hccrt

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it's not even an actual super nintendo we can compare to an actual

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super nintendo i think this is one of the most fun use cases is these modern

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revised consoles playing on an hdcrt they look really good i don't know if i

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can deny it that's what i'm saying walk me through what you're feeling and the

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difference between all three tvs Linus i can't even look at the OLED

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i'm honestly shocked i thought this was gonna be you were gonna pull choose the

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OLED more often than you did i like to think that i'm capable of being

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objective and i can tell when

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something is not as good and there's no question that the higher resolution

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upscaling works really well in this game not in certain situations not in text

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yeah one thing we would be remiss not to mention is the fact that modern

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emulation has solved a lot

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of these problems yeah shout out emulation community

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phenomenal you guys are amazing like bringing people's childhoods back

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one bug at a time and better than it was like

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in a lot of consoles emulation is so much better than the actual hardware is

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like i'm pretty yeah like super mario world widescreen you've seen that stuff

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right yeah 100 you can change the render resolution on a lot of ps1 stuff but

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then actually fix the geometry issues so that's an interesting one too i kind of

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want to show you the ps5 just got some ps1 games so it has emu like backwards

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compatibility now and so i want to show you what an actual ps1 game looks on all

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of these versus the ps5 emulation on these recently playstation has offered

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their plays plus pro gold plus three who

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cares what it's called service where you can now play ps1 and ps2 games not

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just like ripped they're an uh higher rendered or they're they're rendered at

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a higher resolution so that they're rendered at 1440p

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the problem is at actual 1450p it kind of looks like

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crap the geometry looks really weird you can see like the way it pops yeah the

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way that objects kind of shift around a little bit

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it's not that noticeable on the htc rt yeah that looks bad it looks horrible

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i mean it's it's not great but it is definitely that effect is reduced when

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it's sharper a line moving like this

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is absolutely more noticeable and it's interesting because again i might choose

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the 4x3 crt but i like the extra clarity

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that the 1440p offers yeah so like miley

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cyrus told us this is the best of both worlds

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really a miley reference what year is it she's still cool is she

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tell me what you're feeling wow look at his skin looks

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it's like mottled yeah and that i guess that was just how they shaded yeah and

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it just it looks awful so bad but on the hdcrt it doesn't look how smooth that

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gradient on her hair looks it looks it looks almost like correct

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you know what it reminds me of is it reminds me of like a vector image versus

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a scaled jpeg clearly that's

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vector based that is mathematically shaded yeah whereas here it doesn't look

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mathematically shaded it looks like blown up low resolution texture totally

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100 based on this

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30 second gameplay snippet which one do you think you'd want to play i would

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play the hdcrt no question that's what i'm saying absolutely no question heck

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yes i think we're going to stick to one final one and it's a game you know and

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love cross code okay and i think the htcrt has a strong case for hd 2d

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games what's interesting about this game is that i first played it on pretty much

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that display okay on an lgo led 65 inch

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in my living room the color does look better immediately to me on the OLED ooh

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wow and you really notice as you pan from

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side to side the geometry issues and the warping of the image on the hdcrt

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so it's not really a matter of the style of the art it's more a matter of what

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kind of display the developer was working with when they mastered the

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content i would play this on OLED every time you would yeah oh no not me this is

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definitely an hccrt game for me no question just that you lose so much

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detail in the sprites compared to the OLED i actually think the sprites look

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better on this one i think that's fair that kind of looks like it has that integer scaling it's clean

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clean pixels i think though i like the softening look again i i'm i'm now

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pretty accustomed to that when i play retro games is the crt look where

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everything's a little blended and in some games i liked the additional warmth

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of the image on the crt but here it just looks yellow it does not look correct

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it's so interesting i love that you like the OLED better because it's no contest

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to me like i much prefer the overall impression this gives me but i just

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think that goes to show you that like there is no one display for all

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games like like you said it's the whatever the game was designed for is

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what you probably should play it on we're at the end of the experience Linus

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what uh what has been your takeaway from

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using an hdcrt on a multitude of different consoles that i think it's

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super cool that you have this collection that i can borrow when i need to make a

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video i will not be making my own collection

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and i will not have one of these in the living room i do not think so it's just

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oh man i just i can't justify the space

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and we didn't even talk about the power consumption i just can't justify it no i

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think for most people it does not make sense but if you play a lot of retro

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games and you play a lot of widescreen retro stuff it's pretty freaking sweet

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