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i just bought this brand new thousand dollar industrial strength pc

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so what the hell is this why is this a

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thousand dollars who would buy this

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oh wow maybe this is brand new maybe i would

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buy this look at all these new features multiple monitor support dvd playback

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usb in 2022 thank you philly and steve

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thank you wait what's this for again uh

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whatever thank you to our sponsor signalrgb they're giving away a

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minecraft themed pc with over 400 leds

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enclosed in a one-of-a-kind case enter for a chance to win at the link down

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below one of our writers was looking into making a high-powered Windows 98

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gaming rig for some reason i feel like i know why that reason is and got an ad

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for a company called nixis for a new pc

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running Windows 98 apparently they're a small business in

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orange county california that used to primarily sell servers their side hustle

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was building legacy systems for companies that didn't have the time

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money or resources to retrain their employees or buy new versions of

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software but they found themselves selling old systems at such a rate and

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it was such a good market that they ditched it entirely and just started

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building rigs that throw back to a bygone era now full disclosure we didn't

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actually buy this pc we would have but we reached out to nexus and they were

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kind enough to send us a sample to test so long as we didn't let lidas pull our

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fred durst on it and break stuff now

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looking at the exterior this looks like the kind of pc that i would have sold in

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my very first it job back in like 2006.

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yeah it's written in the script there that it looks like it's from the mid-2000s and belongs in an office

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that's about correct this case design is very much mid 2000s we even have a

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floppy drive here as well as an m disc

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i'm not sure if this is a dvd rom drive or not but mdisks basically i think

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they're millennium discs they're supposed to archive data for a thousand

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years or something like that i don't know if that's actually true i don't think that

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anybody's ever tested a thousand year disk a lot of these legacy systems have

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stuff on floppy disks or just spinning media and

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this would actually be pretty good for transferring that out to something more

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modern on the back we've got oh man we got ps2

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ports for keyboard and mouse fair enough serial that's actually

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pretty important parallel also pretty important

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vga then we've got a grand total of four

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usb 2.0 ports on the back with a i believe that's a 10 100 nick

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plus we've got uh some basic audio on the back here nothing really special but

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this serial port and parallel port are actually very interesting for most older

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use cases because a lot of old like human machine

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interfaces and scada interfaces stuff that's for like heavy industrial use

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will use cereal or parallel

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and the thing about cereal and parallel is they can actually go pretty far or at

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least cereal can i don't know about parallel but you can run cereal for like

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i think several kilometers and also around the front are another

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two usb ports these are also 2.0 and front panel audio now for reasons we'll

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get into later these are only running at usb 1.1 speeds but they are 2.0 capable

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now if you thought we were done talking about the exterior we're not check this

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out this is a genuine Windows 98 second

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edition serial key i don't know where they got

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that it looks brand new like it's not scuffed or

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anything like that like you might expect from like a like a like a pole from an

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old system does microsoft still make these like do they still sell these to

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companies that need it or are there just like some warehouse full of like new old

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stock of this stuff i mean i wouldn't be surprised let's get the side panel off

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of here it's pretty thin metal like

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yeah like that's typical of mid 2000's grade pc cases ah there's that fan just

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spinning at maximum RPM forever because there's no control this motherboard

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reminds me a lot of an old Gigabyte board it's got that kind of blue with

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the uh the copper-ish heatsink on the north bridge there oh yeah that's a

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north bridge right this doesn't have a chipset per se well i mean it does it's

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a chip set there are multiple chips whereas these days would only have a

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single chip for that ah let's see we got usb here and we got front panel audio

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here all the front panel stuff including a nice tiny little buzzer speaker little

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piezo electric thing single stick of RAM that's ddr41

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400 megahertz but i don't think it's running at that right now

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there's not a whole lot else going on here but there are some interesting

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things about this motherboard that are worth noting

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first off it's got an agp slot in it that's accelerated graphics port and

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basically what that is is a version of pci

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that is just completely dedicated to the graphics card they don't have anything

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in here right now but they went up to from at least two times as fast as pci

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to as much as eight times as fast as pci which is actually pretty good because

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pci i think was 133 megabytes per second these pci here are shared that's

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typical of the pci bus what that means is that all the 133 megabytes per second

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transfer rate that the pci bus is capable of will be split between all of

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the devices plugged into it this is pretty much analogous to pci express

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today but pci express is dedicated and connected directly to the CPU and

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chipset versus this shared bus that these have these old

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cards used below the pci slots are isa

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slots are industry standard architecture that's what compact called it back in

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the day because they didn't want to have to keep calling it pc compatible these

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are 8 and 16-bit bus so this would be the 8-bit that's the 16-bit extension

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the reason why these are super important for a machine that's targeting like

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legacy systems is a lot of interface cards for

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say communicating with old printers or you know hmis industrial equipment

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weight scales that kind of thing they use isa and that can't be adapted at

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least not easily to pci some other stuff of note in here these ribbon cables

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they're not going to what you might think they are yes one of them is going

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to the floppy drive but both the optical

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drive and the SSD yes that's an SSD

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are connected with these ide to SATA converters basically they turn these

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serial ata drives into something that this old

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motherboard can comprehend i think that's basically it right the power

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supply this is an fsp sparkle power so these aren't super amazing but they're

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not no-name things that are going to break immediately the idea behind these is that they're

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old enough that they can handle the power demands of these older machines

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that we've kind of evolved past so 3.3

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volt and 5 volt rails on modern systems are very underpowered compared to in

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previous times that's what we have here

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so we have a total of 500 watts of power

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available with 150 watts available on the 3.3 and

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5 volt rails which is a lot more i think than most power supplies today will give

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you you might be asking yourself why not pci express

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well the thing about Windows 98 is that Windows 98 doesn't support pci express

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agp is the best it'll do kind of like water bottles from ltdstore.com they

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only supported agp on the first version but they upgraded to pci express and

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either way they can still support your thirst no matter what your socket type the compatibility with all of these

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older standards is really the main selling feature of these machines a

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business that relies on millions of dollars of automation equipment

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controlled by isa compatible cards aren't going to bat any eyes at

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occasionally dropping a thousand dollars on a warranty machine that will keep

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their entire operation up and running especially if the interface card hasn't

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been made since the reagan administration the skytrain the longest

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driverless train network in north america and our local metro system here

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in vancouver is in that exact situation

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a half million people a day in this city

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ride trains that rely on isa cards and

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backups stored on floppy disks it may be old but it's

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very reliable that's nexus's niche their

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clients seem to be from a wide range of industries there's textiles accounting

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healthcare commercial way stations in fact a way station is probably the

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original home of my personal Windows 98 computer scale which i recently brought

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into the office to show off to the youth i have an old way station computer

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because well for an individual with a propensity to tinker building a new Windows 98 pc

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doesn't make a lot of sense sure this motherboard here is brand new

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so it comes with a bit more certainty that it won't experience burst capacitors or cracking solder joints

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anytime soon but that comes at a cost even from the shadiest sellers on

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aliexpress they still command over a hundred dollars and that's without any

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real warranty on them or taking shipping into account either when there's still

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full computers floating around for that same price it's worth rolling the dice

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for those of us who know what we're doing when your business is on the line

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rolling the dice to save a bit of cash is an unaffordable luxury so 100 or even

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500 motherboard that uses 20 year old

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technology can be a straight up good deal the same

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thing can be said for folks with accessibility needs who rely on legacy

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software for some quality of life improvements they may or may not have as

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much cash to throw around as business but if a computer makes life much easier

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and better to live having one becomes a high priority nix has pointed this out

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in our email exchanges as a big reason for individual customers purchasing

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machines for non-gaming purposes but

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this bad boy is not so mission critical to me so why don't we find something

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more frivolous to do with it

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oh god even the intro cinematic is bad

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unfortunately every agp graphics card we've tried on

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this hasn't booted which i mean

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i'm not sure if i'm super upset about it or not

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but it leaves us with just Intel extreme graphics when i ran the sims 2 the intro

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movie was at like 2 frames per second so

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yeah obviously this is not a gaming machine

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but maybe we can run some benchmarks that'll be fun we got pc mark and we got

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3dmark 2001 se let's see how 3dmark 2001

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se works with our incredible Intel xtreme 845 graphics

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turns out the capture device we were using didn't like 10 24 by 768 so i had

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to change that real quick benchmark

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um solid 15 FPS

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that's cool when i was a kid i say kid but like you

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know in in school fiddling around with this stuff i was

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like i was like what game is this like i wanna i wanna

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play this game with mechs and monster trucks and

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missiles and stuff oh yeah there's a there's a there's a

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nice solid eight six seven

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six yeah thirteen oh

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spicy oh six four

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oh it's actually pretty solid oh 16 20. never mind it's jumping all over the

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place again if lightness were here he'd be all like

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trunk door bernadette the peasants which is exactly

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what just happened yeah see that's just friendly fire

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they're launching flaming arrows up at the dragon into the town

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like that's just gonna burn the town the dragon doesn't even have to do all the

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work oh man the matrix demo i used to think

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this was super cool come to think of it i think this is about how well this ran

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on my uh my pentium 4 1.5 with like a

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rage 64 or whatever rage 2 plus that's about

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how well it ran i remember it being pretty bad only in demo mode

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did it run half decent but i'd watch that demo mode you have successfully run

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the benchmark well that depends on your definition of successful because a lot

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of those tests were skipped average FPS in car chase was 15.3 in low detail 8.9

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in high detail yeah

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yeah no i can't imagine there being anything

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wrong with the wireless mouse this here receiver pretends that it's one of these

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so everything that this mouse does receives that those commands and then

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just translates it into more or less one of these so

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if i plug this in yeah there we go working fine when we first booted this

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thing up we had to use a ps2 keyboard and mouse on the back there for

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well compatibility reasons specifically because Windows 98 doesn't ship with

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up-to-date usb keyboard drivers or just

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drivers in general the drivers for the usb stuff had to be installed manually

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before any of it would work now that the drivers are installed everything

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obviously works just fine but it is something we had to do the first time we

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booted it up usb flash drives are an interesting case so this one is a usb

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3.0 as you can see here the thing with these is that you're limited to fat32 at

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best there are drivers you can get for ntfs

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and other file systems but by default the stock version of Windows 98 is

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limited to fat32 which if you format this on any modern Windows machine

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you're limited to 32 gigs that being said it can do up to two terabytes

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so i'm just going to throw this in here and we should

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see that we have removable hardware check that out

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it thinks that the usb flash drive is

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like a like a floppy drive kind of thing like a zip drive

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and that's because that was the storage paradigm for a long time which made all

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the sense in the world back then but now it's just not how we do things and as we

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can see we have a bunch of stuff on this here flash drive a bunch of CPU-z

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screenshots and yeah that's pretty much it for that i can eject it not that that

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seems to have done anything let's uh unplug or reject that there

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it'll stop the usb mass storage device please

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can now be safely removed that is a thing that you actually have

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to do with older versions of Windows because it gets corrupt and fat32 unlike

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ntfs doesn't have journaling so if anything goes wrong in the

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unplugging process you are dealing with file system

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corruption well i've been set up to fail i think

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i don't know that Windows 98 supports usb audio uh

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i don't remember if it does or not device manager

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okay it found it usb audio device so

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presumably it should work uh let's go to

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the control panel to make sure we select it first

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so usb audio device doesn't seem to have any playback options but the recording

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does usb audio device yeah it has recording

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and other okay so the other is where that is and i will test direct sound i guess

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so what i'm looking at right now is a blue screen i i think i should still be

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able to interact with the system slightly no

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it's it's dead wait

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oh yeah yeah it's still slightly working um but it's like it was not happy about

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that is this expecting a higher sample rate or something than Windows 98 can

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handle i have to wonder why this this happened

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the way it did you killed it my god you killed it he's dead jim i

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mean i guess we'll see if it comes back i didn't expect this to kill it

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yeah well we rebooted into safe mode

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following that crash and i'm just looking at the adorable programs list

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here just because i mean it's a thing to do when you're in safe mode

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and uh it's got the unofficial universal usb 2.0 stack on here did we install

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that yeah from what i understand this was more or less completely stock

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Windows 98 and that's kind of what they claimed they've been selling

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but they do include this usb 2.0 thing and

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that's interesting to me because we had to disable usb 2.0 because

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if we tried running Windows with usb 2.0

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we'd get one boot out of it and then after that it would basically just not

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work that being said all of the important stuff

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did pick up via usb we got the flash drive working we got sd

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cards working we got wireless peripherals working and wired peripherals

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so pretty much anything you can expect to need to deploy

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seems to work just fine usb audio aside

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it's about as good an experience as you could reasonably expect from Windows 98

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out of the box actually upgrading the machine

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is not all that easy compared to contemporary Windows pcs however

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i blame the firmware if you're looking to get yourself a warranty reliable

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Windows 98 pc or a pc with any older

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Windows installation on it the nexus has

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made it pretty plug and play out of the box so long as you don't mind forking

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description below thanks for watching guys if you want to check out one of

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your own legacy pcs like this the link is down below and if you want to watch

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more videos on Windows 98 you can take a look at this video where i

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got scale out and showed the youngins what for