WEBVTT 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:10.480 all right ladies and gentlemen welcome to the when show we're 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:13.920 technically here get this out of my face yeah 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:20.000 no i want it in my face put it in my face 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:20.000 you're not letting me remove it 00:00:20.080 --> 00:00:25.600 once you put it in my face you got to leave it there um at least for a little 00:00:23.279 --> 00:00:28.720 while for a little while let me savor it 00:00:27.119 --> 00:00:32.480 all right so we've got a great show for you guys today i think i actually have 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:37.520 no idea it's been off to a pretty rough start to be perfectly honest with you i can't 00:00:35.440 --> 00:00:43.200 even check if i wanted to yeah luke's got an update that's sitting at 23 thank 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:46.399 you dual core laptops yeah i am so glad 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:48.079 that as of 8th gen you're gone forever 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:51.840 did someone if someone raised your chair again do you want to but when people 00:00:50.160 --> 00:00:55.120 like when people come on WAN Show they need to just not 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:59.199 dink around with anything or did they not 00:00:56.719 --> 00:01:05.040 that's it well why is it framed like this did someone mess with mine 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:08.479 you know what forget it who cares uh maybe your chair is too low 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:11.119 counter-strike co-creator suspended after being arrested for child 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:16.640 exploitation um well my head's getting cut off yeah i know well like mine too now let's just 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:20.640 hi uh 00:01:18.880 --> 00:01:24.880 i'm i'm calling max i'm such a wonderful show i'm summoning you beautiful show 00:01:22.960 --> 00:01:28.080 the best show um okay no further details yet other than 00:01:26.880 --> 00:01:35.119 the other details that we have that we'll tell you about later uh AMD suggests that mining may be profitable 00:01:32.240 --> 00:01:35.119 on threadripper 00:01:35.759 --> 00:01:42.720 i don't even i have i'm not even laughing because i like know that it isn't or that it is it's just like 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:46.479 please miners buy our stuff too 00:01:44.479 --> 00:01:52.560 buy more of our stuff miners you're making us so much money please um 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:54.000 all right elon musk uh released a flame 00:01:52.560 --> 00:01:59.840 thrower yeah what is it called the boring company yeah all right so we'll 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:02.880 talk about that later i guess and apple 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:06.479 sells fewer iphones but profits rise 00:02:02.880 --> 00:02:09.440 wow this is some boring boring stuff i'm 00:02:06.479 --> 00:02:12.620 so interested in apple making lots of money we'll find out other things to 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:15.719 talk about i guess 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:22.720 so i had you lower it max but i think what ultimately happened was someone 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:24.239 adjusted my chair tight 00:02:22.720 --> 00:02:28.160 because luke's and my head was supposed to be at about the same height because we're maintaining the illusion that i'm 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:36.160 not homunculus so um 00:02:32.480 --> 00:02:39.120 but trying didn't even faze at all 00:02:36.160 --> 00:02:44.319 no one's cool we can't see it no i do not want an apple box to sit on 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:44.319 what are you brandon 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:49.959 no no no bad new brandon 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:55.040 bye just slouch a bit 00:02:55.760 --> 00:03:02.239 terrible welcome to the lan show oh man is this update still at 20 28 it's gonna 00:03:01.040 --> 00:03:06.080 go like the whole show you're not even gonna have a laptop for the show today 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:13.440 oh man you know what 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:19.440 i would i would even say it's been that kind of week but it actually hasn't it's 00:03:16.480 --> 00:03:23.040 been an okay week i actually had an okay week yeah well you know no wait hold on 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:26.959 a second i forgot about all the drama at the beginning of the week what with the 00:03:25.040 --> 00:03:30.239 oh yeah you know about you right 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:34.319 i was a latecomer okay because i i had no idea 00:03:32.799 --> 00:03:38.799 i had no idea what was happening while it was happening yeah and then i was like just cruising through Floatplane to 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:42.640 make sure everything was going good and i saw like you were like what a mess 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:47.840 where did this come from well no i saw like that thread and i was like i'm confused and then i watched like two 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:51.200 minutes of it and was like i don't have time for this and i don't care and then 00:03:49.760 --> 00:03:56.720 i scrolled down and was like most the comments don't seem to care 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:58.000 oh oh on our side on our site yes yeah 00:03:56.720 --> 00:04:03.920 and then i heard about the tweet and then i was like whoa and then i moved on yeah it totally blew 00:04:01.519 --> 00:04:07.760 up um a lot of people have sort of asked me for comments but i've oh i've said 00:04:06.239 --> 00:04:11.360 pretty much everything no no it's that's a scheduled shutdown i've said pretty 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:15.120 much everything i have to say in an unlisted live stream that you should 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:21.680 have gotten four notifications about i was so mad like it's so mad okay i have a 15 00:04:19.840 --> 00:04:26.160 megabit app connection at home i am i've watched that part down the 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:28.080 hall from a thousand dollar access point which 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:33.759 those of you have been watching a long time no focus that i used to have a lot 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:35.040 of issues with wi-fi so eventually 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:38.800 finally about three years ago i was like i am so 00:04:37.600 --> 00:04:42.400 done with this like what gives me more satisfaction in 00:04:40.880 --> 00:04:48.400 my daily life another graphics card for sli no or 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:53.280 wi-fi that works all the time i think i'm gonna do by the way i think 00:04:50.479 --> 00:04:57.120 i might do another wtf is going on with this live video really because i think 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:00.880 it almost needs an update it doesn't actually change that much 00:04:59.600 --> 00:05:07.199 it's like neither of them want to support it AMD's like no completely and 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:10.080 videos like sort of two other than that 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:13.840 no NVIDIA likes people putting two graphics cards in their system honestly 00:05:11.919 --> 00:05:20.479 i think for them it's less even about the money and more about just like that 00:05:16.880 --> 00:05:22.240 a GPU is a status symbol yeah um 00:05:20.479 --> 00:05:26.960 but the the game developer support is 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:29.280 basically non-existent and before the 00:05:28.320 --> 00:05:35.919 i don't know why we're talking about this i guess there's no good topics so we might as well um before the mentality 00:05:33.440 --> 00:05:39.360 from the the hardware guys seemed to be that they just show up to your 00:05:37.919 --> 00:05:44.320 development studio before your game came out and would be like no 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:47.840 you now support sli and crossfire and then now they just don't and because 00:05:46.080 --> 00:05:51.520 they're not there isn't support for you i don't know 00:05:49.840 --> 00:05:56.240 it's it's been a terrible experience like assassin's creed origins if you ran 00:05:53.840 --> 00:06:00.000 with sli enabled the game would run it would just run way worse than it would 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:03.039 have ran otherwise which is like completely not the experience that you 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:07.600 should have i don't know it's been it's been rough 00:06:05.520 --> 00:06:11.919 for the multiple graphics card guys and the future doesn't look any better 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:15.919 at all yeah so i don't remember where we how we got onto this topic a little bit 00:06:14.080 --> 00:06:20.400 uh you were talking about this the you preferring having like a sweet ap versus 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:24.000 a sweet graphics yeah so i decided that wi-fi was actually more important to me 00:06:22.319 --> 00:06:29.199 than a few frames per second so i got a baller access point so i was streaming 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:32.240 through the youtube app on a pixel 2 xl so i was as google as i could possibly 00:06:31.520 --> 00:06:38.560 be and i sent out the interesting part i managed to send out three 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:41.520 notifications to people each time i went live which 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:46.720 three each time no no no one each time okay three one for each time i went live 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:50.960 and then the streams would just stop i got a i got a screen grab of uh actually 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:56.160 you know like unhappy face i can probably grab it but yeah like um 00:06:54.400 --> 00:07:00.720 it would just give me this error and be like yup 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:05.039 your stream is down whoa 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:09.599 um and it doesn't seem to have uploaded to 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:13.680 that's my thumbnail i know yeah because just the the eye i couldn't eye 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:18.160 roll enough i actually tried to eye roll more that was the most that was the most 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:22.160 that i could physically roll my eyes um but i just got this your stream has 00:07:19.599 --> 00:07:26.639 failed message and and it would just stop and then what i've discovered now 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:30.960 is that you can't you have no way of undoing 00:07:29.280 --> 00:07:36.080 those notifications that are sitting in people's feeds so i was getting messages 00:07:32.880 --> 00:07:37.599 from people for the next couple days 00:07:36.080 --> 00:07:42.639 they'd screenshot these four notifications in a row they'd be like wtf is this and i'm just kind of sitting 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:46.639 here going i'm sorry i can't reply to every single one of you i don't like it 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:50.800 either trust me it's dumb but i i can't do anything 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:54.960 about it so i finally streamed on the iphone 10 instead 00:07:53.039 --> 00:07:58.720 and it worked perfectly that's like something like if you're if 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:01.840 you're twitch streaming and say obs crashes or your computer blue screens or 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:05.360 something and you need to go twitch stream again yeah it sends the email 00:08:03.840 --> 00:08:10.160 version of the notification to everyone i disabled the auto tweet one because of 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:14.160 that on like most like ours doesn't do it mine doesn't do it i most people that 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:19.360 i help it doesn't do it anymore yeah but it will still email everyone and people 00:08:16.479 --> 00:08:22.319 still get the phone notification right so it's pretty yeah it's pretty 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:26.400 frustrating like it would be nice to have it you know be resumable or 00:08:24.479 --> 00:08:30.160 something like if especially because the app itself didn't crash it was just like 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:36.399 your stream is stopped we'll start it again 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:38.959 and i understand i do understand that 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:43.039 whether it's down to uh you know codex requiring files to be closed out or 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:46.160 whether it's down to any number of reasons that it's actually 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:50.480 not like trivially simple i do get that but 00:08:48.959 --> 00:08:56.880 there has to be a better system than what we have now especially if you stream for like one minute and then you 00:08:54.720 --> 00:09:00.320 stream again like i would i would i would like for it to be a little bit 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:02.720 smarter than that um so anyway i said pretty much everything i had to say 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:08.800 there you guys can check that out if you want you probably have a notification if you're subscribed but 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:12.080 um in a nutshell people were mad because 00:09:08.800 --> 00:09:14.240 i confused a tampon and a pad because 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:17.440 the title said tampon okay in the thumbnail i was holding a pad 00:09:16.160 --> 00:09:21.600 i don't know we probably shouldn't get into it i just i just don't understand 00:09:19.519 --> 00:09:24.640 um yeah we probably shouldn't we probably shouldn't get into it because 00:09:23.040 --> 00:09:28.880 all we stand to do yeah all we stand to gain is more 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:33.360 articles on mashable daily mail really and some yeah oh yeah 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:38.480 like there are there are like articles about about this controversy that i'm 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:43.279 kind of sitting here going okay like i guess i guess that's a thing that 00:09:40.880 --> 00:09:47.680 we need to write about today okay um i'm just gonna not comment let's move on yep 00:09:46.880 --> 00:09:53.680 so i don't i don't even want to cover this first topic either what's the first 00:09:50.880 --> 00:09:57.680 topic today the counter-strike thing oh yeah there's not really a lot to say 00:09:55.680 --> 00:10:02.000 well no it specifically says was not charged with a crime so i don't really 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.440 want to cover it because we're just like throwing this dude under the bus when he 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:09.279 wasn't charged with a crime maybe if anything concrete comes out of it yeah i 00:10:07.839 --> 00:10:16.640 don't like the idea of just throwing his name under the bus when he's not 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:18.959 uh arrested suspended by valve 00:10:16.640 --> 00:10:23.600 um yeah it's a suspension they're probably waiting till they 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:26.240 okay statement from valve suspended from the developer while the company 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:30.959 investigates does not have a criminal history so in a nutshell we're not going to name 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:34.959 any names it doesn't look like anything's really happened here but one 00:10:32.640 --> 00:10:39.120 of the co-creators of counter-strike has been arrested and suspended from 00:10:36.800 --> 00:10:44.399 valve and uh there's what's weird is that 00:10:42.079 --> 00:10:47.920 he's been arrested but not charged with a crime and the police 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:52.640 didn't say if an actual child was harmed 00:10:50.640 --> 00:10:56.480 he has no criminal history and of course the local news station is 00:10:55.120 --> 00:11:03.040 speculating as to you know what this might mean 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:07.200 but no one has actually indicated that they know exactly what's going on here 00:11:04.640 --> 00:11:13.600 so let's move into oh man 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:15.560 why would AMD even bring this up 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:19.360 so this article from pcgamesn.com what does this mean for 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:23.360 AMD's reputation that's an interesting thing for me because so many gamers 00:11:21.519 --> 00:11:30.000 right now are really upset about lack of stock of parts 00:11:26.560 --> 00:11:30.800 about prices of things going up 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.040 and the person or the group that everyone 00:11:33.040 --> 00:11:38.880 loves to hate is theoretically fighting against it at 00:11:37.040 --> 00:11:43.839 least in statement i don't know outside of that yeah but NVIDIA has stated at 00:11:41.680 --> 00:11:46.959 least i don't again i don't know outside of that they might be doing something i 00:11:45.040 --> 00:11:51.120 don't know if they are or not um that they that they are trying or they want 00:11:49.680 --> 00:11:54.640 gamers to still be able to buy graphics cards and stuff AMD i don't think has 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:59.760 stated anything about graphics cards as far as i know i could be ignorant on that topic it's not like my laptop's 00:11:57.760 --> 00:12:03.360 working right now um this might take several minutes yeah you 00:12:01.680 --> 00:12:07.360 bet it will but but is actively encouraging people 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:11.040 to buy cpus for mining so they're trying to potentially crush the other side of 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:15.760 the market and right now with everyone being mad at like what is it micro 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:20.000 center or something i don't know because they're like bundling gpus with whole 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:24.120 platforms but if you buy the whole platform you get the GPU at msrp 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:29.680 okay sure but like if you don't you get it at 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:33.360 a cranked up price right yeah that makes sense so it makes it tough for upgraders 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:36.320 but that's but then upgraders are a huge part of the market because yeah you 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:40.000 don't have to upgrade your CPU that often yep 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:44.240 so anyway the what what leads up what leads you 00:12:42.880 --> 00:12:48.000 know we should probably straw pull this but what led us to this conversation is 00:12:45.920 --> 00:12:53.360 that AMD's technical marketing manager damien trillit believes that there's 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:57.040 massive potential for home mining rigs with their threadripper cpus and there's 00:12:55.440 --> 00:13:00.399 a few details here let's go through the like stuff that was said first and then 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:04.720 we'll get into all the problems with this because there are some 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:07.839 um so kryptonite can be mined with cpus that have about two megs of level three 00:13:06.320 --> 00:13:13.040 cache per mining thread level three cache is important for CPU mining yeah 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:17.200 so this rules out almost all asic mining machines that are so far in production 00:13:14.800 --> 00:13:21.040 but favors cpus with high level three cache per core which threadripper is 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:25.040 designed for okay so we also said cpus could be 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:28.320 acceptable for mining if they could handle very few threads very fast and 00:13:26.959 --> 00:13:33.200 that's exactly what threadripper's able to do threadripper comes with up to 32 00:13:30.800 --> 00:13:36.959 megs of level 3 cash and it can keep the data set in cash what speeds up crypto 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:40.560 mining a lot blah blah blah so with two mags per 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:46.720 thread a threadripper 1950x could run around 15 active mining threads not bad 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:51.279 that would allow it to get in about the same ballpark as rx vega and it will be 00:13:49.680 --> 00:13:56.720 much faster for example this is all quoting them much faster than a 1080 ti 00:13:54.000 --> 00:14:01.760 for example in kryptonite uh each Intel's htt chips have far less level 00:13:58.959 --> 00:14:06.480 three cash per core um he believes that a threadripper could 00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:09.279 be capable of accumulating around 90 a month through the nice hash mining 00:14:07.760 --> 00:14:12.800 program though of course uh let me just check my handy-dandy how 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:18.160 much has the market fallen yeah 00:14:15.680 --> 00:14:20.720 uh you know calculator here and it's dropped 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:26.079 honestly this is not reflective of what happened yesterday so it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of like 30 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:28.560 plus percent in the last couple of days um 00:14:28.839 --> 00:14:34.320 dude so your mileage may vary now of 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:38.480 course um you could also go back up or it could go down 80 more i heard 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:41.760 something happened last january as well so there could be a seasonal pretty sure 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:46.560 it's every january yeah there could be a seasonal element to this but um or there 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:50.639 might not be who knows maybe every other january was just a coincidence and maybe 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:59.000 this one is too or maybe this is the end of times who knows the end of mining um 00:14:55.600 --> 00:15:00.800 anyway so using his estimated earnings a 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:06.880 threadripper1920x would see a return beyond its own msrp of around 760 00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:09.279 dollars in just under nine months 00:15:06.880 --> 00:15:11.839 so oh oh yeah 00:15:10.079 --> 00:15:18.720 i'm not reading james you have to do it you do it is AMD trying to cash 00:15:15.839 --> 00:15:22.160 in on that cryptocurrency c-a-c-h-e 00:15:21.040 --> 00:15:28.480 terrible okay so penny problem number one is the 00:15:26.079 --> 00:15:32.240 perception problem yeah i think that's huge 00:15:30.560 --> 00:15:36.399 because you look at how many people were mad about the piece that we did on 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:39.040 cryptocurrency mining what was it a week ago two weeks ago 00:15:37.839 --> 00:15:43.360 something like that did you check out mining adventure part two part three 00:15:40.880 --> 00:15:47.040 yeah uh part two the one with the gpus i've seen all of them okay you've seen 00:15:44.560 --> 00:15:50.959 all of them so mining adventure part two roughly i would skip through it we 00:15:48.560 --> 00:15:57.600 covered um building a more optimized GPU mining 00:15:53.519 --> 00:16:00.720 machine and that got 40 000 likes which 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:03.040 is pretty good wow but also 10 000 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:08.800 dislikes yeah because the gamers so just over a fifth of you guys were mad enough 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:13.120 that on a piece of content that i thought was pretty good whether you like 00:16:11.199 --> 00:16:16.880 mining or not i thought it was interesting um Jake did a lot of 00:16:15.040 --> 00:16:21.120 research on this one we ended up with a pretty cool rig 00:16:18.880 --> 00:16:26.800 pretty optimized configuration anyway people were so mad that we got a 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:30.079 fifth of you like pressing the dislike button to show your 00:16:28.399 --> 00:16:33.279 dissatisfaction with us even covering this stuff and there's eight thousand 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:36.079 comments on it eight thousand i don't know who they should be mad at well okay 00:16:34.959 --> 00:16:41.120 i know at least one group that they should be mad at outside of that i don't know if they should or should not be mad 00:16:38.880 --> 00:16:45.279 at other groups yeah uh but gamers i understand the GPU market is terrible 00:16:43.920 --> 00:16:50.399 right now yeah it's crazy i would not want to be building a computer i wouldn't build a computer 00:16:48.160 --> 00:16:53.199 i tweeted out like way before the whole internet made articles about 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:57.680 it and then some people were like oh they copied you it's like no they didn't put whatever i still try but they 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:02.399 figured it out independently yeah yeah it's a pretty common thought but buying 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:07.360 consoles right now yeah is like actually if you just want a game 00:17:05.120 --> 00:17:11.679 a pretty decent item like not a bad bet yeah and the crazy thing is you look at 00:17:09.199 --> 00:17:15.120 how quickly this happened oh because if you go back to mining adventure part one 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:20.480 which it was fine back by many accounts or by 00:17:17.439 --> 00:17:22.799 or by a lot of accounts is a worse video 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:26.400 yeah because we we did not 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:29.919 try to build something optimized we actually 00:17:27.600 --> 00:17:33.440 went at it from a completely unoptimized way it's amazing by the way here's the 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:36.720 point it's amazing how many comments there are on that video about how poorly 00:17:35.280 --> 00:17:40.640 optimized the build is that was the point even though we said it right in the video 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:46.640 that that was what exactly what we were doing uh it's amazing how many people try 00:17:44.080 --> 00:17:49.360 really really hard to not understand a video 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:56.480 anyway um so that had 50 000 likes and just 00:17:52.880 --> 00:17:58.960 1600 dislikes that's about 97 and then 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:02.400 this one's closer to 80. so the whole public perception was like this is okay 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:07.679 and then this is suddenly not okay so that's true again it makes sense from 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:10.480 mid-november to mid-january 00:18:07.679 --> 00:18:15.039 two months and the perception changed that much around GPU mining well it went 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:20.080 from like where i think is a good spot for it to 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:21.679 be which is like oh gamers you can like 00:18:20.080 --> 00:18:25.039 make some more money doing this yeah and like if you if you have a couple gpus 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:28.960 around or you want an excuse to play with hardware and buy some more graphics 00:18:26.720 --> 00:18:32.720 cards you can do this it went from that to like 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:35.280 i'm getting a warehouse and then people got really upset about 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:40.160 that right okay the solution 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:43.840 Linus coin did you see Jake's tweet no you're 00:18:42.559 --> 00:18:50.000 saying instead of float coin we should call it sync coin saint coin sync sync because the 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:50.000 market's sinking 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:58.320 and because of it's same coin because you should sink your investment into it 00:18:54.880 --> 00:19:00.640 all of it literally all of it yeah so 00:18:58.320 --> 00:19:04.240 so i think we've pretty much decided we have kind of talked about it a little 00:19:02.320 --> 00:19:10.960 bit to be clear when luke initially brought it up total joke in paul's video 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:13.840 not a thing we had even talked about no at all 00:19:12.320 --> 00:19:17.280 i still don't want to call it float coin pure legend we don't have to okay okay 00:19:16.320 --> 00:19:21.280 um but we've talked about it we're gonna do a 00:19:19.600 --> 00:19:25.760 coin and we're gonna do it as part of mining 00:19:23.360 --> 00:19:29.760 adventure and the point that we're going to be trying to make is that and i 00:19:27.600 --> 00:19:34.559 really want you guys to listen really carefully just turn off the radio 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:38.160 kids don't listen to the radio anymore turn off the whatever else whatever 00:19:36.320 --> 00:19:42.240 audio noise pollution you have around you turn off the twitch streams listen 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:46.080 really carefully we are creating this video 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:51.039 to demonstrate how 00:19:47.600 --> 00:19:53.120 a coin can be created for purely 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:57.039 exploitative purposes because a lot of them are because a lot of them are we 00:19:54.960 --> 00:20:01.919 will be going through the procedure and showing you guys how it is done and 00:19:59.600 --> 00:20:05.360 we'll be listing like a lot of the different ways that it could be done and 00:20:03.360 --> 00:20:10.000 then we'll be picking a few yep and we'll be going that route yep well you 00:20:07.280 --> 00:20:13.120 guys will so if you guys decide to mine it 00:20:11.120 --> 00:20:18.240 by all means mine it if you guys decide to buy some by all means do it but let 00:20:15.600 --> 00:20:23.280 me tell you guys right now our coin aside from if we can find some purpose 00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:27.760 for it where you can like use it for uh voting on wan showers voting on lan show 00:20:25.520 --> 00:20:30.720 or like uh some kind of access to a special sub forum on the forum or 00:20:29.120 --> 00:20:34.960 whatever like we might come up with like a couple a couple LMG or Floatplane related 00:20:33.840 --> 00:20:40.159 things you can do with it and those would largely be a part of the experiment of 00:20:37.840 --> 00:20:43.120 getting people to use it essentially but 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:48.400 expect it to crash because in the long term we do not have 00:20:45.760 --> 00:20:52.400 either the technical know-how or the inclination 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:56.880 to follow this through and make it a technologically superior coin which is 00:20:55.520 --> 00:21:02.159 yeah it won't be we're going to fork someone else's thing do do no special 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:08.000 advancements to it yes and run forward yes so expect it to be that which is 00:21:05.760 --> 00:21:12.400 common now i realized i talked for a really long time so 00:21:10.240 --> 00:21:15.679 if anyone tuned out here's the bottom line 00:21:14.080 --> 00:21:20.480 if you didn't listen to everything i just said don't mind any and don't 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00:27:57.120 --> 00:28:03.440 of all um okay part of mining adventure should you 00:28:01.760 --> 00:28:07.840 do a like the other ways video and do like hard 00:28:05.919 --> 00:28:11.279 drive and CPU well hard drive's coming oh okay yeah that that's mining 00:28:09.520 --> 00:28:14.640 adventure side quest did you get GPU working it's not good uh i haven't yet i 00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:19.039 figured it out though you just need to use a different plotter yes yeah so yeah 00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:22.720 like i just it's a yeah it's slightly more complicated than that yeah um but 00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:28.960 yes i don't care anymore because i'm using a dual 22 core system and i am 00:28:25.520 --> 00:28:30.640 getting uh up to about 70 to 80 000 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:36.000 nonces per minute on CPU 00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:38.000 so i have um so i have four 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:41.600 four instances running at a time because there seems to be some kind of 00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:45.520 limitation that's capping me at 60 CPU usage so i've got four running at a time 00:28:43.760 --> 00:28:48.960 so while one of them is committing to the dr while two of them are committing 00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:52.799 to drives the other two are running and then these ones will kick back in and 00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:57.520 then those ones will kind of run through creating nonces and then they'll be committing them to drives and these two 00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:03.760 will be running so overnight i was actually able to do over 10 terabytes on 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:04.720 a single rig with CPU plotting so 00:29:03.760 --> 00:29:10.559 anyway to be clear i'm not running out and buying all the hard drives put away the 00:29:07.919 --> 00:29:14.640 pitch forks um i'm just experimenting with burst coin because it's this coin 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:18.880 that you mine by just allocating empty hard drive space to it and it doesn't 00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:22.799 seem to so in further research and actually doing it a little bit myself 00:29:20.320 --> 00:29:25.520 yeah once it's plotted yeah it doesn't seem to hurt the drive 00:29:24.399 --> 00:29:31.120 okay at um plotting though yeah you're hitting the 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:35.120 drive really rough yeah yeah like really rough so from talking to guys in the 00:29:33.360 --> 00:29:39.440 burst community they're saying that it doesn't hurt it any more than normal use 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:43.279 would yeah so i'm still not doing it on petabyte project yeah no because i just 00:29:41.760 --> 00:29:47.279 don't even want them spinning if they don't have to be yeah um but on all 00:29:45.600 --> 00:29:50.320 these like janky drives that i had sitting in literally sitting in boxes 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:55.840 around the warehouse why not might as well um so before i go 00:29:53.600 --> 00:30:00.080 for the weekend i'm gonna load up as many drives as i can on that system 00:29:58.159 --> 00:30:03.039 run them through all weekend and then by sort of next week i should actually have 00:30:01.840 --> 00:30:08.399 it all going so far i've made five dollars nice yeah there 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:13.840 you go do you have much more than that i've spent on electricity a lot 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:17.200 i don't know exactly how much but a lot 00:30:15.679 --> 00:30:21.919 you can do dynamic plotting too are you going to do that uh no i'm actually not 00:30:19.919 --> 00:30:26.880 familiar with dynamic dynamic plotting is uh 00:30:24.399 --> 00:30:31.120 you are able to use the drive oh as you add more data to it the plot 00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:34.799 will make itself smaller no i probably won't do that and you set an offset so 00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:39.520 that you have room to put stuff and then you put the stuff there and then it will shrink itself we can discuss it in the 00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:42.720 video but that's like not really the approach i'm taking you saw the machine 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:46.000 i'm using no i know i'm just saying for for people that have like 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:49.440 it's already getting to the point where it's probably not that practical to try 00:30:48.080 --> 00:30:54.480 to mine with just like the drive in your computer depending on the pool you join 00:30:51.919 --> 00:30:59.279 so the the difficulty so okay i'll get into this in the video but 00:30:56.399 --> 00:31:04.480 the more capacity you have the easier it is to respond to a job in time in sort 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:09.440 of very very simple terms and so different pools you know if 00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:12.960 that's on a per machine basis or a per address um 00:31:13.919 --> 00:31:20.320 that's a great question wonderful question no idea okay um 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:24.159 anyway so different pools will have different 00:31:22.080 --> 00:31:28.880 thresholds for how quickly you need to be able to respond to a job in order to 00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:35.679 benefit from the pool yeah because if you're just someone with like 300 megs 00:31:31.919 --> 00:31:38.080 and you're like never never going to 00:31:35.679 --> 00:31:41.360 actually discover a coin because it's like each amount of 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:45.440 capacity is kind of like buying more and more lottery tickets so if you just have 00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:49.840 like a tiny tiny amount you're basically just piggybacking off of the success of 00:31:47.120 --> 00:31:54.480 the big people in the pool so some pools have very strict requirements for how 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:58.240 much capacity you have to have in order to be considered a contributing member 00:31:56.320 --> 00:32:00.880 and in order to allow you to join so what you could do is you could join one 00:31:59.600 --> 00:32:05.440 of those pools even if you have a hundred megs of data but you would just 00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:08.559 never qualify and your entries would just be rejected 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.320 every time you would never benefited just hit your drive from plotting 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.679 and then never again and then never gain anything and then there's much much 00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:21.039 looser pools that have really really long times but those ones are full of a bunch of 00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:24.880 losers that you know no one like are individually 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:28.640 going to find almost nothing um so anyway right now it's kind of like a 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:31.840 weird stage where to get the most out of it you really do need a lot of drives 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.640 like it's kind of transitioning that way interesting not surprised 00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:40.840 so back to cpus um so AMD has made a couple fundamental 00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:47.120 errors here number one is calculating roi time roi time is a 00:32:44.399 --> 00:32:51.200 flawed calculation because it is very easy to underestimate it or overestimate 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:56.640 it you can't just look at how much it's bringing in today and go yes that is 00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.640 going to pay for itself in amount of time x because because saying 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:05.600 it will pay for itself in amount of time x if nothing changes is just a sentence 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:10.320 that doesn't matter yeah it will change it depends when and if you cash out um 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:13.760 it depends what currencies you're mining et cetera et cetera et cetera et cetera 00:33:11.679 --> 00:33:19.360 et cetera it depends on whether you will even still be able to mine that 00:33:16.159 --> 00:33:22.000 particular algorithm um yeah nine months 00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:26.320 down the road on a CPU uh so yeah depends on a lot of stuff 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:30.399 problem number the second is that there's more to the cost of a 00:33:28.080 --> 00:33:33.279 threadripper CPU than the cost of the CPU itself 00:33:32.399 --> 00:33:38.000 so threadripper motherboards are like 300 00:33:35.600 --> 00:33:42.880 plus dollars normal mining motherboards are in the 00:33:40.080 --> 00:33:47.200 neighborhood of a hundred plus to around 200 for something like ASUS's 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:50.799 b250 mining and you're going pretty hard if you go to that yeah 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:54.640 the other issue here is that you could kind of go oh okay well Threadripper is 00:33:53.120 --> 00:34:00.799 only like you know 50 to so double to 50 00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:06.559 more than a regular motherboard but you can effectively make use of the CPU 00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:08.560 socket as another mining you know uh 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:12.079 node or whatever you want to call it as another miner 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:16.560 except the problem with that is that threadripper is limited to what is it 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:21.440 seven PCIe devices or eight something like that yeah so you could 00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:25.839 never have a threadripper mining optimized board 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:30.879 because you could never plug in enough gpus 00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:36.399 to account for this difference in cost so while yes theoretically you could 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:41.040 mine on threadripper you would not do that if you were 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.879 actually trying to build an optimized dedicated mining machine you might not 00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:47.679 be though if you're picking a CPU for your home rig and you want to like mine 00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:51.919 overnight it would double your roi time for one 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:55.679 because you're not 24 7 mining but if you wanted like a beast machine CPU 00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:02.960 there's another problem um yeah yeah i'm just not sold i also 00:35:01.839 --> 00:35:07.280 wonder about power yeah power uh it's probably not any 00:35:06.160 --> 00:35:11.520 worse than like remember they're comparing it to a vegas similar but 00:35:11.680 --> 00:35:17.680 but you're taking away from your roi time 00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:22.320 yep because power is a cost so that will delay your roi time which is a screwed 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:27.440 up thing to measure anyways i think it's a little it's borderline nefarious in my opinion 00:35:25.760 --> 00:35:33.599 for a hardware company that isn't like selling asics because then who cares 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.359 anyways um to be like it'll pay for itself in nine months 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:41.359 that's a little uh i'm not super stoked on that personally 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:46.560 all right putting its like hash rates up and stuff 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:51.760 is fine maybe even if they do an article on like 00:35:48.640 --> 00:35:53.680 this is why you need l3 cache yeah CPU 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:57.599 mic that makes makes a lot of sense it's like a blog post because a lot of people 00:35:55.040 --> 00:36:02.800 don't understand l3 cache anyways yep so if you're like look this is a practical 00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:05.440 application that needs a bunch of it um 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:10.079 that would be an interesting blog post all right some random youtube channel or 00:36:08.240 --> 00:36:14.160 website or uh podcast or whatever picked that up 00:36:12.640 --> 00:36:17.680 and was like oh my goodness you can man with cpus that's fine because that's 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.720 someone else doing that so you bought this yeah 00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:28.800 is this even legal here okay 00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:30.400 technically 100 yes 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:34.960 uh-huh it actually making it here 00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:38.000 i'ma give it like a 50 chance uh-huh 00:36:36.240 --> 00:36:40.720 my hope is that if they reject it i can just tell them to ship it somewhere else 00:36:39.359 --> 00:36:47.760 uh-huh and then i'll just send it to my grandpa's or something and he can 00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:52.320 get rid of scorpions 20 000 flame 00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:54.240 throwers for 500 us dollars 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:58.000 they sold them within a couple of days yeah thanks twitch subscribers 00:36:57.040 --> 00:37:02.960 um because they took paypal here's the caption here don't do this 00:37:01.680 --> 00:37:06.880 also i want it to be clear that a flamethrower is a super terrible idea 00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:11.119 definitely don't buy one unless you like fun 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:16.240 that's kind of lame i hadn't actually seen it fire yet that's really that's a 00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.440 really short yeah it's short burst 00:37:16.240 --> 00:37:24.480 okay which a lot of people were like oh that's because of laws and 00:37:21.920 --> 00:37:29.119 apparently basically nowhere has regulations on so one of the reasons why 00:37:26.720 --> 00:37:34.640 flamethrowers are not illegal in places yeah is because uh people use them as 00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:38.560 like weed destruction torches basically uh-huh and 00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:41.680 that's apparently really common in like a lot of farmland and stuff which you 00:37:40.560 --> 00:37:47.680 think oh that's gonna start a forest fire apparently no because they just like do it properly and stuff i don't 00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:51.680 know but yeah there's no regulations around it in 00:37:48.839 --> 00:37:56.079 canada there is not a single beep about it in the firearms act uh it's it's 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.599 apparently completely allowed i even looked up import and custom stuff and 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:04.400 there's import and custom stuff about knives because i was talking about switchblades 00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:08.480 yeah switchblades and stuff and i was talking about how i like um like pocket 00:38:06.720 --> 00:38:11.839 knives on my stream once so someone sent me one and it got grabbed by customs and 00:38:10.160 --> 00:38:16.160 customs was like we're keeping this forever screw you and i was like oh okay 00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:20.560 well nothing i can do about that so i looked it up and yeah there's all the stuff about knives there's tons of stuff 00:38:19.040 --> 00:38:24.960 about guns there's ways to do it properly with both of them because stores can do it you just can't do it 00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:32.400 personally and you can let you have to set up as an entity to be able to import it and 00:38:28.720 --> 00:38:32.400 nothing for flamethrowers 00:38:33.200 --> 00:38:41.760 it's coming atf says any flamethrower with a flame shorter than 10 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:45.040 feet 10 feet is a-okay 00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:49.440 our design is max fun for least danger 00:38:45.040 --> 00:38:49.440 i'd be more scared of a steak knife 00:38:51.359 --> 00:38:58.240 this guy is such a troll yeah 00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:00.880 like he's such a troll so i want to cook with it 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:03.920 if i don't know what type of fuel it takes so i don't know if that's 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:08.880 possible um if it takes the right kind of fuel i 00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:12.720 want to it's like propane or something it's like a no i think propane can no 00:39:11.359 --> 00:39:17.280 you can with propane you can't with uh whatever tiki torches 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:21.520 no no no but tiki torches are like an oil what fuel is that okay oh yeah yeah 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:24.960 no it's going to be that it i mean i'm not an expert but 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:28.480 it looks like it could be a propane flame to me 00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:33.200 it's very blue i don't see any reason why that would not be a propane flame 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:38.720 especially because that would make it really uh really cheap and really easy 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:42.720 to um to refuel 00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:47.440 okay blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.720 sale drew criticism from a california politician who said he would introduce 00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:53.839 legislation aimed at banning the flame throwers we don't allow people to walk 00:39:52.720 --> 00:39:58.640 in off the street and purchase military-grade tanks or armor-piercing ammunition i cannot even begin to 00:39:57.200 --> 00:40:04.160 imagine the problems a flamethrower would cause firefighters and police officers with that said this is hardly a 00:40:02.240 --> 00:40:08.720 military-grade tank or arbitration ammunition 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:12.079 if you need this to start a fire this is basically a blow torch shaped like a gun 00:40:11.040 --> 00:40:15.760 yeah like okay it's a little longer but like 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:20.079 if you can't go to the if you can't go to the hardware store i 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:25.359 can find something that'll make a fire easier than this then i don't know man 00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:28.560 like honestly that flame has got to be 00:40:25.359 --> 00:40:30.160 that's only maybe 18 inches maybe like 00:40:28.560 --> 00:40:34.560 you can get you can get blow torches that'll do not 00:40:32.160 --> 00:40:40.720 much shy of that and probably hotter if you can jog around an office with your 00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:42.160 thing fully firing and everything's fine 00:40:40.720 --> 00:40:46.000 yeah like you could like he's saying military grade whatever military if you 00:40:44.240 --> 00:40:50.880 can run around an office shooting with a gun it's not gonna be fine 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:54.160 yeah okay i think it's hilarious so honestly now that i've seen it fire like 00:40:52.640 --> 00:41:00.160 i was disappointed i didn't order one now i don't even care it looks kind of lame i'm assuming you can mod it 00:40:57.680 --> 00:41:02.400 oh oh you figure maybe you can mod it maybe 00:41:01.040 --> 00:41:07.200 but it depends on the fuel like something like propane i doubt it yeah i don't know if it is so maybe maybe 00:41:05.680 --> 00:41:14.560 people are spamming the chat telling us what it is um canadian firearms law is so weird 00:41:12.160 --> 00:41:18.640 22 stub nose pistol nope you might hurt yourself well technically a cannon you 00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:20.960 can get in the same classification as a rifle 00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:27.440 is such a joke it's so bad most stuff is classified by name instead of by 00:41:25.680 --> 00:41:31.920 specification so there's a lot of things that like look scary that are banned and 00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:36.000 there's things that are way scarier that don't look super scary so they're not 00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:40.079 bandaged it's so weird 00:41:38.160 --> 00:41:43.520 apparently tiki torches use butane someone's backs me up that it looks like 00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:47.920 it looks like prophase what kind of tiki torches are we thinking then because i'm talking about those ones with like the 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:52.079 wick and the like kind of wicker thing around it i have no idea what they take 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:55.520 i thought they just used like uh like a wick soaked in a thing and they had like 00:41:54.240 --> 00:42:02.119 that lemon smell am i thinking of something else what is the tiki torch 00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:02.119 tiki torch fuel citron 00:42:03.520 --> 00:42:09.200 yeah no that's not that's not like i thought this is like a like a wax or 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:15.040 like an oil look at the way it burns i could be wrong though 00:42:12.640 --> 00:42:19.680 tiki torch fuel like the things that we end up i don't i don't think it's a wax 00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:22.160 um something something 00:42:22.160 --> 00:42:28.960 it doesn't say america's number one torch fuel pre-filled paradise in your 00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:32.720 backyard oh wow please just tell me what is in it 00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:38.480 thank you i wish you would just tell me what's in it 00:42:34.240 --> 00:42:40.640 oh man tiki torch fuel american sail.com 00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:43.680 with lemongrass oil oh my goodness okay well either way they have a lot of like 00:42:42.079 --> 00:42:48.319 it's scented with this or it has whatever else eucalyptus formula 00:42:46.640 --> 00:42:51.839 ah i'm dying it's kerosene kerosene 00:42:50.640 --> 00:42:56.240 kerosene oil keeps the bugs away yeah yeah but that's not what makes there you go no 00:42:54.800 --> 00:43:00.880 there's different kinds this is why it's hard to find paraffin 00:42:58.560 --> 00:43:05.119 tiki green whatever this is but like that's like paraffin's a wax 00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:08.720 type okay but yeah just something with a wick in it like it's totally different 00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:13.680 from from this um yeah i don't know if anyone actually 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.480 knows let's see i don't think you burn 00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:20.240 citronella i think that's the yeah that's the scent crap yeah why switched 00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:23.119 out is spamming cintronella i think that's what like makes it smell good or 00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:30.319 keeps the bugs away or something apparently the slo-mo guys did a cool video using tiki torch oil what haven't 00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:30.319 they done a cool video about that's fair 00:43:30.720 --> 00:43:37.760 all right a lot of people saying kerosene oh finally 00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:42.240 Windows 10 defender is finally going to block those shady free pc optimizer 00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:45.280 applications about time this was posted by tech 00:43:43.839 --> 00:43:50.079 dreamer on the forum and the original article is from cloudblogs.microsoft.com 00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:55.200 protecting customers from being intimidated into making an unnecessary 00:43:52.240 --> 00:43:58.319 purchase how did this take so long i mean i'm not mad like this is like the 00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:02.160 main thing that they should have been blocking wow there was something else that i was 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.960 like really mad about yeah how do you know why does Windows not have a built-in 00:44:04.720 --> 00:44:12.319 screen recorder at this point outside of games how is it that iOS has this 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:16.800 and Windows doesn't like there's just some baffling stuff that they haven't 00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.520 built in there's so okay have you heard i don't think it's in the dock but have 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:23.280 you heard the rumors of uh the companies microsoft is interested 00:44:21.359 --> 00:44:27.119 in buying no uh oh yeah it's propane uh just go to 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:30.880 their website 20 ounce propane there you go so there's no way you're going to get 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:34.640 a pro point propane flame much longer than that so change what fuel it is 00:44:34.640 --> 00:44:41.920 yeah i don't know we're talking like okay to be clear i think there are going 00:44:39.520 --> 00:44:44.880 to be people putting new rags in them and they're going to be people changing 00:44:43.680 --> 00:44:49.520 out the gas i don't care sure i'm not going to do it 00:44:47.359 --> 00:44:54.640 but um i i think it's gonna be i'm gonna go help my friend who lives on a farm 00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:56.880 clear uh blackberry bushes with it 00:44:54.640 --> 00:45:00.240 because that sounds fun right all right anyway that's what i'll do 00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:04.560 what were you saying about the uh so this is like super rumor mill 00:45:02.319 --> 00:45:07.920 stuff and to be clear i'm pretty sure if anything 00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:11.599 i think it's like insider information which is super rumor mill no no no i 00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:14.720 didn't hear this directly this is posted on some website sure okay um 00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:21.440 and it was very much like they're interested in doing this not those other companies 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:27.040 are also okay with it sure so and one of them i'm very sure is not okay with it 00:45:23.680 --> 00:45:29.040 um but pubg corp 00:45:27.040 --> 00:45:32.640 what ea what 00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:36.720 and valve which they technically have the warchest 00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:43.119 money to deal with but like i'm sure the last one is not okay exactly yeah 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:44.640 they're not okay with it pubg corp 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:48.240 it sounds like they're micro uh their minecraft acquisition yeah hey this is 00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:53.040 already popular and everyone already bought it let's now buy it to 00:45:51.040 --> 00:45:55.839 we're not really sure um but okay microtransaction actually yeah part of 00:45:54.640 --> 00:45:59.200 the idea behind that sorry i just remembered was not letting it go to 00:45:57.680 --> 00:46:04.160 playstation because it's a timed microsoft xbox 00:46:01.839 --> 00:46:06.800 exclusive and i guess they're they might be trying 00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:11.040 to buy it before it can go to playstation and i heard that the idea of 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:14.880 them acquiring ea is to get a whole bunch of excuses can i 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:20.240 let me cut you off right there if microsoft wanted a game studio 00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:25.040 why did they get rid of microsoft game studios 00:46:21.839 --> 00:46:25.040 where's a mic need a mic 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:31.680 well they're still making microsoft games 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:35.839 because like uh whatever that new pirates game sea of thieves is like a 00:46:33.359 --> 00:46:39.839 microsoft game yeah like not much they used to be an actual major game 00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.960 developer yeah well i'm assuming maybe they want to get back into that i don't 00:46:41.200 --> 00:46:47.359 know okay so the ea acquisition idea is interesting 00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:52.720 because there's a lot of ways to hate that because more exclusives for xbox 00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:54.319 and stuff um but i mean everyone already 00:46:52.720 --> 00:46:58.720 hates ea pretty much at a maximum capacity already so yeah 00:46:56.960 --> 00:47:02.960 maybe they can't hate them even more i don't know maybe it's not that big of a 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.960 deal i don't know 00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:08.800 um yeah i don't think any of that's going to happen i just wanted to bring up 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:14.880 microsoft stuff um all right what else we got here this is 00:47:12.160 --> 00:47:18.240 all boring uh apple delays iOS features to focus on stability that seems like a 00:47:16.640 --> 00:47:21.760 good idea couldn't use uh speaking of built-in screen recording couldn't use 00:47:19.839 --> 00:47:24.880 it today without rebooting it would list it it would just go 00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:29.359 and then you can stop it and then the clip would just be gone yeah we tried a 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:33.280 few times it was broken um for iOS 12 they've been working on a redesigned 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.960 home screen app grid hopefully by redesign they mean exactly 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:41.599 the same except i can move stuff where i want it uh multiplayer mode for 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:46.560 augmented reality games ah augmented reality is so bad 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:50.800 like it is so bad 00:47:48.880 --> 00:47:54.800 we're just we're not even close we're so many years away he's okay 00:47:53.040 --> 00:47:59.359 it's bad max it's bad 00:47:56.800 --> 00:48:02.720 what can i help you with no we're streaming 00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:09.119 um uh a merger of the third party 00:48:07.359 --> 00:48:12.400 applications running somewhere iphone's max do i 00:48:10.640 --> 00:48:18.000 ivan told me you didn't have time after work um okay improvements to facetime um 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:22.559 longest standing video game record was thrown out after 35 years this was by 00:48:20.560 --> 00:48:26.880 todd rogers it was for his dragster record yeah obviously it was impossible 00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:29.960 because it's like physically impossible to happen in the game so are a lot of 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:34.640 his like 1400 other video game records a lot of 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:38.800 them are physically impossible including records that are like not 00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:43.200 actually able to be gotten in the game because like your score goes up in 00:48:40.240 --> 00:48:46.400 increments that his score isn't at like a lot of the games they'll be in 00:48:44.160 --> 00:48:50.880 increments of like 10 and his score will end in like a five and it's like that 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:54.960 it's not how that works um or he'll play donkey kong and like the next highest 00:48:52.800 --> 00:49:02.400 person is like 10 million points below him um yeah no it's super bs and uh 00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:05.119 uh where is it sorry give me one second 00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:09.119 twin galaxies records he has so many records in twin galaxies that make no 00:49:07.359 --> 00:49:13.119 sense at all um and like and they're the official 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:17.200 source for guinness's world records and a lot of 00:49:14.720 --> 00:49:21.119 a lot a lot or all of his records were posted through 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:24.400 one person who's now like in jail and like the tapes were seized by the 00:49:23.040 --> 00:49:29.200 police so he's like oh yeah all the tapes of my records are just gone because of that but then people have 00:49:27.359 --> 00:49:33.839 contacted the police they're like uh no we returned them all and there's like 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:38.960 basically none um so yeah todd todd rogers records super bs 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:42.319 moving on now his personal website offered a simple 00:49:40.720 --> 00:49:46.480 explanation of how he achieved his unbeatable time uh while maintaining 00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:50.000 that activision's certification of his time highlighted in one of the company's 00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:55.040 newsletters was enough to cement his place on the gaming leaderboards 00:49:52.240 --> 00:49:59.359 great that's makes sense there's even like someone took apart 00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:02.800 a game and found that like one of the games that he played it's electronically 00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:07.280 impossible for him to get the score that he got there's another game where um i 00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:12.160 can't remember what it's called barnstorming or something like that you fly a plane and you have to fly through 00:50:11.200 --> 00:50:18.400 barns and you have to dodge other things they removed all the ops and so it when you 00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:21.920 go up and down to dodge obstacles you lose a little bit of horizontal speed so 00:50:20.319 --> 00:50:25.920 you're supposed to skim things right you're supposed to move up and down as little as possible and go straight as 00:50:24.319 --> 00:50:29.200 you can but you have to move a little bit so they removed all the obstacles 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:34.480 from the game and just flew in a straight line and didn't even make his time 00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:38.160 so they're like dude you're bs i don't know dude's a joke 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:42.559 it's finally being recognized that's good because there's too many cheaters 00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:47.119 in the speedrunning community and the speedy earning community is great so 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:50.319 stop there's also a lot of really legit 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:55.599 awesome people in the speedrunning community so there you go that aren't todd rogers 00:50:53.599 --> 00:51:00.000 so this is pretty great tevo will let users auto skip the football to watch 00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:04.480 just the super bowl commercials original article from techcrunch 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.599 um in other news there's a new app that you can only use when you have five 00:51:05.839 --> 00:51:11.520 percent battery or less it's called die with me an anonymous 00:51:09.839 --> 00:51:15.280 chat app that you can use on iOS or Android it costs 99 cents and there's 00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:19.760 usually about 30 people active in the chat at any given time that's hilarious 00:51:17.680 --> 00:51:24.240 um and youtube will now be labeling state-funded news broadcasts now here's 00:51:21.839 --> 00:51:28.880 a question do they label cnn and fox news 00:51:29.359 --> 00:51:36.240 are those i don't think there's the not technically but there are people who 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:40.000 would argue on either side that they might as well be funded by the left or 00:51:38.319 --> 00:51:44.400 the right oh geez 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:47.920 wow and i think on that note we're done here time to run away thanks for tuning 00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:51.359 in to the WAN Show we've got a lot of great stuff up on Floatplane i can't 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:54.720 show it to you because i'm logged in as an administrator on the 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.520 forum so i can't share my screen with you but there's some good stuff there 00:51:56.079 --> 00:52:01.920 you can share it here and just highlight the things oh yeah i can do that 00:51:59.280 --> 00:52:05.599 yes i think i can do that because you don't open the threads 00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:08.480 anymore uh okay so lg wallpaper tv complete 00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:12.000 that's a good thumbnail hey yeah it is i think we're finally getting a little bit 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.800 better at them yeah uh designing our new gaming set oh i think this went up 00:52:13.520 --> 00:52:19.680 simultaneously but that's a good thumbnail too it is actually this big 00:52:17.040 --> 00:52:23.280 that was cool is that on youtube yeah it's on youtube yeah okay that was cool 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:27.760 um can you build your own mechanical keyboard another good thumbnail yes 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:33.359 we're finally getting it i think yeah it took a long time um 00:52:30.160 --> 00:52:35.119 is eight gigs of RAM enough in 2018. 00:52:33.359 --> 00:52:39.359 that's more than eight gigs minor details minor details aren't those at 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:43.680 least it's not a tampon so isn't that like more than 100 gigs i don't know 00:52:41.839 --> 00:52:49.680 um oh god the fastest laptop we've ever seen eight 00:52:46.640 --> 00:52:52.640 cores in a laptop wow this was cool wow 00:52:49.680 --> 00:52:56.240 full desktop CPU okay it's actually an am4 processor in there with an am4 00:52:55.280 --> 00:52:59.760 socket yes that's cool yes 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:04.800 uh tampon gate 00:53:02.240 --> 00:53:10.720 you can watch it there oh we did another episode of ultimate compact pc 00:53:07.520 --> 00:53:12.720 nice ooh with the jedi one yeah that's 00:53:10.720 --> 00:53:18.480 cool star wars card um i saw a picture of some guy with like 00:53:15.839 --> 00:53:21.119 seven of each mining and i was like really 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:24.400 really i'm not even hashtag doing it wrong all 00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:28.200 right we'll see you again next week same bad time same that channel 00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:45.040 dg776 says this show sucked and that may be true 00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:47.760 but at least it wasn't pre-recorded 00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:54.880 why what 00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:54.880 it didn't slow down 00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:02.240 no one listens to the stuff we talk about during the m trillion ah 00:53:59.680 --> 00:54:07.280 someone will basic dot main dot stop streaming 00:54:04.319 --> 00:54:11.520 confirm stop dot title confirm stop dot test hopefully the hopefully the top 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:15.119 comment on youtube is confirm confirm stop dot comment or something