all right ladies and gentlemen welcome to the when show we're
technically here get this out of my face yeah
no i want it in my face put it in my face
you're not letting me remove it
once you put it in my face you got to leave it there um at least for a little
while for a little while let me savor it
all right so we've got a great show for you guys today i think i actually have
no idea it's been off to a pretty rough start to be perfectly honest with you i can't
even check if i wanted to yeah luke's got an update that's sitting at 23 thank
you dual core laptops yeah i am so glad
that as of 8th gen you're gone forever
did someone if someone raised your chair again do you want to but when people
like when people come on WAN Show they need to just not
dink around with anything or did they not
that's it well why is it framed like this did someone mess with mine
you know what forget it who cares uh maybe your chair is too low
counter-strike co-creator suspended after being arrested for child
exploitation um well my head's getting cut off yeah i know well like mine too now let's just
hi uh
i'm i'm calling max i'm such a wonderful show i'm summoning you beautiful show
the best show um okay no further details yet other than
the other details that we have that we'll tell you about later uh AMD suggests that mining may be profitable
on threadripper
i don't even i have i'm not even laughing because i like know that it isn't or that it is it's just like
please miners buy our stuff too
buy more of our stuff miners you're making us so much money please um
all right elon musk uh released a flame
thrower yeah what is it called the boring company yeah all right so we'll
talk about that later i guess and apple
sells fewer iphones but profits rise
wow this is some boring boring stuff i'm
so interested in apple making lots of money we'll find out other things to
talk about i guess
so i had you lower it max but i think what ultimately happened was someone
adjusted my chair tight
because luke's and my head was supposed to be at about the same height because we're maintaining the illusion that i'm
not homunculus so um
but trying didn't even faze at all
no one's cool we can't see it no i do not want an apple box to sit on
what are you brandon
no no no bad new brandon
bye just slouch a bit
terrible welcome to the lan show oh man is this update still at 20 28 it's gonna
go like the whole show you're not even gonna have a laptop for the show today
oh man you know what
i would i would even say it's been that kind of week but it actually hasn't it's
been an okay week i actually had an okay week yeah well you know no wait hold on
a second i forgot about all the drama at the beginning of the week what with the
oh yeah you know about you right
i was a latecomer okay because i i had no idea
i had no idea what was happening while it was happening yeah and then i was like just cruising through Floatplane to
make sure everything was going good and i saw like you were like what a mess
where did this come from well no i saw like that thread and i was like i'm confused and then i watched like two
minutes of it and was like i don't have time for this and i don't care and then
i scrolled down and was like most the comments don't seem to care
oh oh on our side on our site yes yeah
and then i heard about the tweet and then i was like whoa and then i moved on yeah it totally blew
up um a lot of people have sort of asked me for comments but i've oh i've said
pretty much everything no no it's that's a scheduled shutdown i've said pretty
much everything i have to say in an unlisted live stream that you should
have gotten four notifications about i was so mad like it's so mad okay i have a 15
megabit app connection at home i am i've watched that part down the
hall from a thousand dollar access point which
those of you have been watching a long time no focus that i used to have a lot
of issues with wi-fi so eventually
finally about three years ago i was like i am so
done with this like what gives me more satisfaction in
my daily life another graphics card for sli no or
wi-fi that works all the time i think i'm gonna do by the way i think
i might do another wtf is going on with this live video really because i think
it almost needs an update it doesn't actually change that much
it's like neither of them want to support it AMD's like no completely and
videos like sort of two other than that
no NVIDIA likes people putting two graphics cards in their system honestly
i think for them it's less even about the money and more about just like that
a GPU is a status symbol yeah um
but the the game developer support is
basically non-existent and before the
i don't know why we're talking about this i guess there's no good topics so we might as well um before the mentality
from the the hardware guys seemed to be that they just show up to your
development studio before your game came out and would be like no
you now support sli and crossfire and then now they just don't and because
they're not there isn't support for you i don't know
it's it's been a terrible experience like assassin's creed origins if you ran
with sli enabled the game would run it would just run way worse than it would
have ran otherwise which is like completely not the experience that you
should have i don't know it's been it's been rough
for the multiple graphics card guys and the future doesn't look any better
at all yeah so i don't remember where we how we got onto this topic a little bit
uh you were talking about this the you preferring having like a sweet ap versus
a sweet graphics yeah so i decided that wi-fi was actually more important to me
than a few frames per second so i got a baller access point so i was streaming
through the youtube app on a pixel 2 xl so i was as google as i could possibly
be and i sent out the interesting part i managed to send out three
notifications to people each time i went live which
three each time no no no one each time okay three one for each time i went live
and then the streams would just stop i got a i got a screen grab of uh actually
you know like unhappy face i can probably grab it but yeah like um
it would just give me this error and be like yup
your stream is down whoa
um and it doesn't seem to have uploaded to
that's my thumbnail i know yeah because just the the eye i couldn't eye
roll enough i actually tried to eye roll more that was the most that was the most
that i could physically roll my eyes um but i just got this your stream has
failed message and and it would just stop and then what i've discovered now
is that you can't you have no way of undoing
those notifications that are sitting in people's feeds so i was getting messages
from people for the next couple days
they'd screenshot these four notifications in a row they'd be like wtf is this and i'm just kind of sitting
here going i'm sorry i can't reply to every single one of you i don't like it
either trust me it's dumb but i i can't do anything
about it so i finally streamed on the iphone 10 instead
and it worked perfectly that's like something like if you're if
you're twitch streaming and say obs crashes or your computer blue screens or
something and you need to go twitch stream again yeah it sends the email
version of the notification to everyone i disabled the auto tweet one because of
that on like most like ours doesn't do it mine doesn't do it i most people that
i help it doesn't do it anymore yeah but it will still email everyone and people
still get the phone notification right so it's pretty yeah it's pretty
frustrating like it would be nice to have it you know be resumable or
something like if especially because the app itself didn't crash it was just like
your stream is stopped we'll start it again
and i understand i do understand that
whether it's down to uh you know codex requiring files to be closed out or
whether it's down to any number of reasons that it's actually
not like trivially simple i do get that but
there has to be a better system than what we have now especially if you stream for like one minute and then you
stream again like i would i would i would like for it to be a little bit
smarter than that um so anyway i said pretty much everything i had to say
there you guys can check that out if you want you probably have a notification if you're subscribed but
um in a nutshell people were mad because
i confused a tampon and a pad because
the title said tampon okay in the thumbnail i was holding a pad
i don't know we probably shouldn't get into it i just i just don't understand
um yeah we probably shouldn't we probably shouldn't get into it because
all we stand to do yeah all we stand to gain is more
articles on mashable daily mail really and some yeah oh yeah
like there are there are like articles about about this controversy that i'm
kind of sitting here going okay like i guess i guess that's a thing that
we need to write about today okay um i'm just gonna not comment let's move on yep
so i don't i don't even want to cover this first topic either what's the first
topic today the counter-strike thing oh yeah there's not really a lot to say
well no it specifically says was not charged with a crime so i don't really
want to cover it because we're just like throwing this dude under the bus when he
wasn't charged with a crime maybe if anything concrete comes out of it yeah i
don't like the idea of just throwing his name under the bus when he's not
uh arrested suspended by valve
um yeah it's a suspension they're probably waiting till they
okay statement from valve suspended from the developer while the company
investigates does not have a criminal history so in a nutshell we're not going to name
any names it doesn't look like anything's really happened here but one
of the co-creators of counter-strike has been arrested and suspended from
valve and uh there's what's weird is that
he's been arrested but not charged with a crime and the police
didn't say if an actual child was harmed
he has no criminal history and of course the local news station is
speculating as to you know what this might mean
but no one has actually indicated that they know exactly what's going on here
so let's move into oh man
why would AMD even bring this up
so this article from pcgamesn.com what does this mean for
AMD's reputation that's an interesting thing for me because so many gamers
right now are really upset about lack of stock of parts
about prices of things going up
and the person or the group that everyone
loves to hate is theoretically fighting against it at
least in statement i don't know outside of that yeah but NVIDIA has stated at
least i don't again i don't know outside of that they might be doing something i
don't know if they are or not um that they that they are trying or they want
gamers to still be able to buy graphics cards and stuff AMD i don't think has
stated anything about graphics cards as far as i know i could be ignorant on that topic it's not like my laptop's
working right now um this might take several minutes yeah you
bet it will but but is actively encouraging people
to buy cpus for mining so they're trying to potentially crush the other side of
the market and right now with everyone being mad at like what is it micro
center or something i don't know because they're like bundling gpus with whole
platforms but if you buy the whole platform you get the GPU at msrp
okay sure but like if you don't you get it at
a cranked up price right yeah that makes sense so it makes it tough for upgraders
but that's but then upgraders are a huge part of the market because yeah you
don't have to upgrade your CPU that often yep
so anyway the what what leads up what leads you
know we should probably straw pull this but what led us to this conversation is
that AMD's technical marketing manager damien trillit believes that there's
massive potential for home mining rigs with their threadripper cpus and there's
a few details here let's go through the like stuff that was said first and then
we'll get into all the problems with this because there are some
um so kryptonite can be mined with cpus that have about two megs of level three
cache per mining thread level three cache is important for CPU mining yeah
so this rules out almost all asic mining machines that are so far in production
but favors cpus with high level three cache per core which threadripper is
designed for okay so we also said cpus could be
acceptable for mining if they could handle very few threads very fast and
that's exactly what threadripper's able to do threadripper comes with up to 32
megs of level 3 cash and it can keep the data set in cash what speeds up crypto
mining a lot blah blah blah so with two mags per
thread a threadripper 1950x could run around 15 active mining threads not bad
that would allow it to get in about the same ballpark as rx vega and it will be
much faster for example this is all quoting them much faster than a 1080 ti
for example in kryptonite uh each Intel's htt chips have far less level
three cash per core um he believes that a threadripper could
be capable of accumulating around 90 a month through the nice hash mining
program though of course uh let me just check my handy-dandy how
much has the market fallen yeah
uh you know calculator here and it's dropped
honestly this is not reflective of what happened yesterday so it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of like 30
plus percent in the last couple of days um
dude so your mileage may vary now of
course um you could also go back up or it could go down 80 more i heard
something happened last january as well so there could be a seasonal pretty sure
it's every january yeah there could be a seasonal element to this but um or there
might not be who knows maybe every other january was just a coincidence and maybe
this one is too or maybe this is the end of times who knows the end of mining um
anyway so using his estimated earnings a
threadripper1920x would see a return beyond its own msrp of around 760
dollars in just under nine months
so oh oh yeah
i'm not reading james you have to do it you do it is AMD trying to cash
in on that cryptocurrency c-a-c-h-e
terrible okay so penny problem number one is the
perception problem yeah i think that's huge
because you look at how many people were mad about the piece that we did on
cryptocurrency mining what was it a week ago two weeks ago
something like that did you check out mining adventure part two part three
yeah uh part two the one with the gpus i've seen all of them okay you've seen
all of them so mining adventure part two roughly i would skip through it we
covered um building a more optimized GPU mining
machine and that got 40 000 likes which
is pretty good wow but also 10 000
dislikes yeah because the gamers so just over a fifth of you guys were mad enough
that on a piece of content that i thought was pretty good whether you like
mining or not i thought it was interesting um Jake did a lot of
research on this one we ended up with a pretty cool rig
pretty optimized configuration anyway people were so mad that we got a
fifth of you like pressing the dislike button to show your
dissatisfaction with us even covering this stuff and there's eight thousand
comments on it eight thousand i don't know who they should be mad at well okay
i know at least one group that they should be mad at outside of that i don't know if they should or should not be mad
at other groups yeah uh but gamers i understand the GPU market is terrible
right now yeah it's crazy i would not want to be building a computer i wouldn't build a computer
i tweeted out like way before the whole internet made articles about
it and then some people were like oh they copied you it's like no they didn't put whatever i still try but they
figured it out independently yeah yeah it's a pretty common thought but buying
consoles right now yeah is like actually if you just want a game
a pretty decent item like not a bad bet yeah and the crazy thing is you look at
how quickly this happened oh because if you go back to mining adventure part one
which it was fine back by many accounts or by
or by a lot of accounts is a worse video
yeah because we we did not
try to build something optimized we actually
went at it from a completely unoptimized way it's amazing by the way here's the
point it's amazing how many comments there are on that video about how poorly
optimized the build is that was the point even though we said it right in the video
that that was what exactly what we were doing uh it's amazing how many people try
really really hard to not understand a video
anyway um so that had 50 000 likes and just
1600 dislikes that's about 97 and then
this one's closer to 80. so the whole public perception was like this is okay
and then this is suddenly not okay so that's true again it makes sense from
mid-november to mid-january
two months and the perception changed that much around GPU mining well it went
from like where i think is a good spot for it to
be which is like oh gamers you can like
make some more money doing this yeah and like if you if you have a couple gpus
around or you want an excuse to play with hardware and buy some more graphics
cards you can do this it went from that to like
i'm getting a warehouse and then people got really upset about
that right okay the solution
Linus coin did you see Jake's tweet no you're
saying instead of float coin we should call it sync coin saint coin sync sync because the
market's sinking
and because of it's same coin because you should sink your investment into it
all of it literally all of it yeah so
so i think we've pretty much decided we have kind of talked about it a little
bit to be clear when luke initially brought it up total joke in paul's video
not a thing we had even talked about no at all
i still don't want to call it float coin pure legend we don't have to okay okay
um but we've talked about it we're gonna do a
coin and we're gonna do it as part of mining
adventure and the point that we're going to be trying to make is that and i
really want you guys to listen really carefully just turn off the radio
kids don't listen to the radio anymore turn off the whatever else whatever
audio noise pollution you have around you turn off the twitch streams listen
really carefully we are creating this video
to demonstrate how
a coin can be created for purely
exploitative purposes because a lot of them are because a lot of them are we
will be going through the procedure and showing you guys how it is done and
we'll be listing like a lot of the different ways that it could be done and
then we'll be picking a few yep and we'll be going that route yep well you
guys will so if you guys decide to mine it
by all means mine it if you guys decide to buy some by all means do it but let
me tell you guys right now our coin aside from if we can find some purpose
for it where you can like use it for uh voting on wan showers voting on lan show
or like uh some kind of access to a special sub forum on the forum or
whatever like we might come up with like a couple a couple LMG or Floatplane related
things you can do with it and those would largely be a part of the experiment of
getting people to use it essentially but
expect it to crash because in the long term we do not have
either the technical know-how or the inclination
to follow this through and make it a technologically superior coin which is
yeah it won't be we're going to fork someone else's thing do do no special
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all right let's go back to why CPU mining doesn't make any sense so first
of all um okay part of mining adventure should you
do a like the other ways video and do like hard
drive and CPU well hard drive's coming oh okay yeah that that's mining
adventure side quest did you get GPU working it's not good uh i haven't yet i
figured it out though you just need to use a different plotter yes yeah so yeah
like i just it's a yeah it's slightly more complicated than that yeah um but
yes i don't care anymore because i'm using a dual 22 core system and i am
getting uh up to about 70 to 80 000
nonces per minute on CPU
so i have um so i have four
four instances running at a time because there seems to be some kind of
limitation that's capping me at 60 CPU usage so i've got four running at a time
so while one of them is committing to the dr while two of them are committing
to drives the other two are running and then these ones will kick back in and
then those ones will kind of run through creating nonces and then they'll be committing them to drives and these two
will be running so overnight i was actually able to do over 10 terabytes on
a single rig with CPU plotting so
anyway to be clear i'm not running out and buying all the hard drives put away the
pitch forks um i'm just experimenting with burst coin because it's this coin
that you mine by just allocating empty hard drive space to it and it doesn't
seem to so in further research and actually doing it a little bit myself
yeah once it's plotted yeah it doesn't seem to hurt the drive
okay at um plotting though yeah you're hitting the
drive really rough yeah yeah like really rough so from talking to guys in the
burst community they're saying that it doesn't hurt it any more than normal use
would yeah so i'm still not doing it on petabyte project yeah no because i just
don't even want them spinning if they don't have to be yeah um but on all
these like janky drives that i had sitting in literally sitting in boxes
around the warehouse why not might as well um so before i go
for the weekend i'm gonna load up as many drives as i can on that system
run them through all weekend and then by sort of next week i should actually have
it all going so far i've made five dollars nice yeah there
you go do you have much more than that i've spent on electricity a lot
i don't know exactly how much but a lot
you can do dynamic plotting too are you going to do that uh no i'm actually not
familiar with dynamic dynamic plotting is uh
you are able to use the drive oh as you add more data to it the plot
will make itself smaller no i probably won't do that and you set an offset so
that you have room to put stuff and then you put the stuff there and then it will shrink itself we can discuss it in the
video but that's like not really the approach i'm taking you saw the machine
i'm using no i know i'm just saying for for people that have like
it's already getting to the point where it's probably not that practical to try
to mine with just like the drive in your computer depending on the pool you join
so the the difficulty so okay i'll get into this in the video but
the more capacity you have the easier it is to respond to a job in time in sort
of very very simple terms and so different pools you know if
that's on a per machine basis or a per address um
that's a great question wonderful question no idea okay um
anyway so different pools will have different
thresholds for how quickly you need to be able to respond to a job in order to
benefit from the pool yeah because if you're just someone with like 300 megs
and you're like never never going to
actually discover a coin because it's like each amount of
capacity is kind of like buying more and more lottery tickets so if you just have
like a tiny tiny amount you're basically just piggybacking off of the success of
the big people in the pool so some pools have very strict requirements for how
much capacity you have to have in order to be considered a contributing member
and in order to allow you to join so what you could do is you could join one
of those pools even if you have a hundred megs of data but you would just
never qualify and your entries would just be rejected
every time you would never benefited just hit your drive from plotting
and then never again and then never gain anything and then there's much much
looser pools that have really really long times but those ones are full of a bunch of
losers that you know no one like are individually
going to find almost nothing um so anyway right now it's kind of like a
weird stage where to get the most out of it you really do need a lot of drives
like it's kind of transitioning that way interesting not surprised
so back to cpus um so AMD has made a couple fundamental
errors here number one is calculating roi time roi time is a
flawed calculation because it is very easy to underestimate it or overestimate
it you can't just look at how much it's bringing in today and go yes that is
going to pay for itself in amount of time x because because saying
it will pay for itself in amount of time x if nothing changes is just a sentence
that doesn't matter yeah it will change it depends when and if you cash out um
it depends what currencies you're mining et cetera et cetera et cetera et cetera
et cetera it depends on whether you will even still be able to mine that
particular algorithm um yeah nine months
down the road on a CPU uh so yeah depends on a lot of stuff
problem number the second is that there's more to the cost of a
threadripper CPU than the cost of the CPU itself
so threadripper motherboards are like 300
plus dollars normal mining motherboards are in the
neighborhood of a hundred plus to around 200 for something like ASUS's
b250 mining and you're going pretty hard if you go to that yeah
the other issue here is that you could kind of go oh okay well Threadripper is
only like you know 50 to so double to 50
more than a regular motherboard but you can effectively make use of the CPU
socket as another mining you know uh
node or whatever you want to call it as another miner
except the problem with that is that threadripper is limited to what is it
seven PCIe devices or eight something like that yeah so you could
never have a threadripper mining optimized board
because you could never plug in enough gpus
to account for this difference in cost so while yes theoretically you could
mine on threadripper you would not do that if you were
actually trying to build an optimized dedicated mining machine you might not
be though if you're picking a CPU for your home rig and you want to like mine
overnight it would double your roi time for one
because you're not 24 7 mining but if you wanted like a beast machine CPU
there's another problem um yeah yeah i'm just not sold i also
wonder about power yeah power uh it's probably not any
worse than like remember they're comparing it to a vegas similar but
but you're taking away from your roi time
yep because power is a cost so that will delay your roi time which is a screwed
up thing to measure anyways i think it's a little it's borderline nefarious in my opinion
for a hardware company that isn't like selling asics because then who cares
anyways um to be like it'll pay for itself in nine months
that's a little uh i'm not super stoked on that personally
all right putting its like hash rates up and stuff
is fine maybe even if they do an article on like
this is why you need l3 cache yeah CPU
mic that makes makes a lot of sense it's like a blog post because a lot of people
don't understand l3 cache anyways yep so if you're like look this is a practical
application that needs a bunch of it um
that would be an interesting blog post all right some random youtube channel or
website or uh podcast or whatever picked that up
and was like oh my goodness you can man with cpus that's fine because that's
someone else doing that so you bought this yeah
is this even legal here okay
technically 100 yes
uh-huh it actually making it here
i'ma give it like a 50 chance uh-huh
my hope is that if they reject it i can just tell them to ship it somewhere else
uh-huh and then i'll just send it to my grandpa's or something and he can
get rid of scorpions 20 000 flame
throwers for 500 us dollars
they sold them within a couple of days yeah thanks twitch subscribers
um because they took paypal here's the caption here don't do this
also i want it to be clear that a flamethrower is a super terrible idea
definitely don't buy one unless you like fun
that's kind of lame i hadn't actually seen it fire yet that's really that's a
really short yeah it's short burst
okay which a lot of people were like oh that's because of laws and
apparently basically nowhere has regulations on so one of the reasons why
flamethrowers are not illegal in places yeah is because uh people use them as
like weed destruction torches basically uh-huh and
that's apparently really common in like a lot of farmland and stuff which you
think oh that's gonna start a forest fire apparently no because they just like do it properly and stuff i don't
know but yeah there's no regulations around it in
canada there is not a single beep about it in the firearms act uh it's it's
apparently completely allowed i even looked up import and custom stuff and
there's import and custom stuff about knives because i was talking about switchblades
yeah switchblades and stuff and i was talking about how i like um like pocket
knives on my stream once so someone sent me one and it got grabbed by customs and
customs was like we're keeping this forever screw you and i was like oh okay
well nothing i can do about that so i looked it up and yeah there's all the stuff about knives there's tons of stuff
about guns there's ways to do it properly with both of them because stores can do it you just can't do it
personally and you can let you have to set up as an entity to be able to import it and
nothing for flamethrowers
it's coming atf says any flamethrower with a flame shorter than 10
feet 10 feet is a-okay
our design is max fun for least danger
i'd be more scared of a steak knife
this guy is such a troll yeah
like he's such a troll so i want to cook with it
if i don't know what type of fuel it takes so i don't know if that's
possible um if it takes the right kind of fuel i
want to it's like propane or something it's like a no i think propane can no
you can with propane you can't with uh whatever tiki torches
no no no but tiki torches are like an oil what fuel is that okay oh yeah yeah
no it's going to be that it i mean i'm not an expert but
it looks like it could be a propane flame to me
it's very blue i don't see any reason why that would not be a propane flame
especially because that would make it really uh really cheap and really easy
to um to refuel
okay blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
sale drew criticism from a california politician who said he would introduce
legislation aimed at banning the flame throwers we don't allow people to walk
in off the street and purchase military-grade tanks or armor-piercing ammunition i cannot even begin to
imagine the problems a flamethrower would cause firefighters and police officers with that said this is hardly a
military-grade tank or arbitration ammunition
if you need this to start a fire this is basically a blow torch shaped like a gun
yeah like okay it's a little longer but like
if you can't go to the if you can't go to the hardware store i
can find something that'll make a fire easier than this then i don't know man
like honestly that flame has got to be
that's only maybe 18 inches maybe like
you can get you can get blow torches that'll do not
much shy of that and probably hotter if you can jog around an office with your
thing fully firing and everything's fine
yeah like you could like he's saying military grade whatever military if you
can run around an office shooting with a gun it's not gonna be fine
yeah okay i think it's hilarious so honestly now that i've seen it fire like
i was disappointed i didn't order one now i don't even care it looks kind of lame i'm assuming you can mod it
oh oh you figure maybe you can mod it maybe
but it depends on the fuel like something like propane i doubt it yeah i don't know if it is so maybe maybe
people are spamming the chat telling us what it is um canadian firearms law is so weird
22 stub nose pistol nope you might hurt yourself well technically a cannon you
can get in the same classification as a rifle
is such a joke it's so bad most stuff is classified by name instead of by
specification so there's a lot of things that like look scary that are banned and
there's things that are way scarier that don't look super scary so they're not
bandaged it's so weird
apparently tiki torches use butane someone's backs me up that it looks like
it looks like prophase what kind of tiki torches are we thinking then because i'm talking about those ones with like the
wick and the like kind of wicker thing around it i have no idea what they take
i thought they just used like uh like a wick soaked in a thing and they had like
that lemon smell am i thinking of something else what is the tiki torch
tiki torch fuel citron
yeah no that's not that's not like i thought this is like a like a wax or
like an oil look at the way it burns i could be wrong though
tiki torch fuel like the things that we end up i don't i don't think it's a wax
um something something
it doesn't say america's number one torch fuel pre-filled paradise in your
backyard oh wow please just tell me what is in it
thank you i wish you would just tell me what's in it
oh man tiki torch fuel american sail.com
with lemongrass oil oh my goodness okay well either way they have a lot of like
it's scented with this or it has whatever else eucalyptus formula
ah i'm dying it's kerosene kerosene
kerosene oil keeps the bugs away yeah yeah but that's not what makes there you go no
there's different kinds this is why it's hard to find paraffin
tiki green whatever this is but like that's like paraffin's a wax
type okay but yeah just something with a wick in it like it's totally different
from from this um yeah i don't know if anyone actually
knows let's see i don't think you burn
citronella i think that's the yeah that's the scent crap yeah why switched
out is spamming cintronella i think that's what like makes it smell good or
keeps the bugs away or something apparently the slo-mo guys did a cool video using tiki torch oil what haven't
they done a cool video about that's fair
all right a lot of people saying kerosene oh finally
Windows 10 defender is finally going to block those shady free pc optimizer
applications about time this was posted by tech
dreamer on the forum and the original article is from cloudblogs.microsoft.com
protecting customers from being intimidated into making an unnecessary
purchase how did this take so long i mean i'm not mad like this is like the
main thing that they should have been blocking wow there was something else that i was
like really mad about yeah how do you know why does Windows not have a built-in
screen recorder at this point outside of games how is it that iOS has this
and Windows doesn't like there's just some baffling stuff that they haven't
built in there's so okay have you heard i don't think it's in the dock but have
you heard the rumors of uh the companies microsoft is interested
in buying no uh oh yeah it's propane uh just go to
their website 20 ounce propane there you go so there's no way you're going to get
a pro point propane flame much longer than that so change what fuel it is
yeah i don't know we're talking like okay to be clear i think there are going
to be people putting new rags in them and they're going to be people changing
out the gas i don't care sure i'm not going to do it
but um i i think it's gonna be i'm gonna go help my friend who lives on a farm
clear uh blackberry bushes with it
because that sounds fun right all right anyway that's what i'll do
what were you saying about the uh so this is like super rumor mill
stuff and to be clear i'm pretty sure if anything
i think it's like insider information which is super rumor mill no no no i
didn't hear this directly this is posted on some website sure okay um
and it was very much like they're interested in doing this not those other companies
are also okay with it sure so and one of them i'm very sure is not okay with it
um but pubg corp
what ea what
and valve which they technically have the warchest
money to deal with but like i'm sure the last one is not okay exactly yeah
they're not okay with it pubg corp
it sounds like they're micro uh their minecraft acquisition yeah hey this is
already popular and everyone already bought it let's now buy it to
we're not really sure um but okay microtransaction actually yeah part of
the idea behind that sorry i just remembered was not letting it go to
playstation because it's a timed microsoft xbox
exclusive and i guess they're they might be trying
to buy it before it can go to playstation and i heard that the idea of
them acquiring ea is to get a whole bunch of excuses can i
let me cut you off right there if microsoft wanted a game studio
why did they get rid of microsoft game studios
where's a mic need a mic
well they're still making microsoft games
because like uh whatever that new pirates game sea of thieves is like a
microsoft game yeah like not much they used to be an actual major game
developer yeah well i'm assuming maybe they want to get back into that i don't
know okay so the ea acquisition idea is interesting
because there's a lot of ways to hate that because more exclusives for xbox
and stuff um but i mean everyone already
hates ea pretty much at a maximum capacity already so yeah
maybe they can't hate them even more i don't know maybe it's not that big of a
deal i don't know
um yeah i don't think any of that's going to happen i just wanted to bring up
microsoft stuff um all right what else we got here this is
all boring uh apple delays iOS features to focus on stability that seems like a
good idea couldn't use uh speaking of built-in screen recording couldn't use
it today without rebooting it would list it it would just go
and then you can stop it and then the clip would just be gone yeah we tried a
few times it was broken um for iOS 12 they've been working on a redesigned
home screen app grid hopefully by redesign they mean exactly
the same except i can move stuff where i want it uh multiplayer mode for
augmented reality games ah augmented reality is so bad
like it is so bad
we're just we're not even close we're so many years away he's okay
it's bad max it's bad
what can i help you with no we're streaming
um uh a merger of the third party
applications running somewhere iphone's max do i
ivan told me you didn't have time after work um okay improvements to facetime um
longest standing video game record was thrown out after 35 years this was by
todd rogers it was for his dragster record yeah obviously it was impossible
because it's like physically impossible to happen in the game so are a lot of
his like 1400 other video game records a lot of
them are physically impossible including records that are like not
actually able to be gotten in the game because like your score goes up in
increments that his score isn't at like a lot of the games they'll be in
increments of like 10 and his score will end in like a five and it's like that
it's not how that works um or he'll play donkey kong and like the next highest
person is like 10 million points below him um yeah no it's super bs and uh
uh where is it sorry give me one second
twin galaxies records he has so many records in twin galaxies that make no
sense at all um and like and they're the official
source for guinness's world records and a lot of
a lot a lot or all of his records were posted through
one person who's now like in jail and like the tapes were seized by the
police so he's like oh yeah all the tapes of my records are just gone because of that but then people have
contacted the police they're like uh no we returned them all and there's like
basically none um so yeah todd todd rogers records super bs
moving on now his personal website offered a simple
explanation of how he achieved his unbeatable time uh while maintaining
that activision's certification of his time highlighted in one of the company's
newsletters was enough to cement his place on the gaming leaderboards
great that's makes sense there's even like someone took apart
a game and found that like one of the games that he played it's electronically
impossible for him to get the score that he got there's another game where um i
can't remember what it's called barnstorming or something like that you fly a plane and you have to fly through
barns and you have to dodge other things they removed all the ops and so it when you
go up and down to dodge obstacles you lose a little bit of horizontal speed so
you're supposed to skim things right you're supposed to move up and down as little as possible and go straight as
you can but you have to move a little bit so they removed all the obstacles
from the game and just flew in a straight line and didn't even make his time
so they're like dude you're bs i don't know dude's a joke
it's finally being recognized that's good because there's too many cheaters
in the speedrunning community and the speedy earning community is great so
stop there's also a lot of really legit
awesome people in the speedrunning community so there you go that aren't todd rogers
so this is pretty great tevo will let users auto skip the football to watch
just the super bowl commercials original article from techcrunch
um in other news there's a new app that you can only use when you have five
percent battery or less it's called die with me an anonymous
chat app that you can use on iOS or Android it costs 99 cents and there's
usually about 30 people active in the chat at any given time that's hilarious
um and youtube will now be labeling state-funded news broadcasts now here's
a question do they label cnn and fox news
are those i don't think there's the not technically but there are people who
would argue on either side that they might as well be funded by the left or
the right oh geez
wow and i think on that note we're done here time to run away thanks for tuning
in to the WAN Show we've got a lot of great stuff up on Floatplane i can't
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you can share it here and just highlight the things oh yeah i can do that
yes i think i can do that because you don't open the threads
anymore uh okay so lg wallpaper tv complete
that's a good thumbnail hey yeah it is i think we're finally getting a little bit
better at them yeah uh designing our new gaming set oh i think this went up
simultaneously but that's a good thumbnail too it is actually this big
that was cool is that on youtube yeah it's on youtube yeah okay that was cool
um can you build your own mechanical keyboard another good thumbnail yes
we're finally getting it i think yeah it took a long time um
is eight gigs of RAM enough in 2018.
that's more than eight gigs minor details minor details aren't those at
least it's not a tampon so isn't that like more than 100 gigs i don't know
um oh god the fastest laptop we've ever seen eight
cores in a laptop wow this was cool wow
full desktop CPU okay it's actually an am4 processor in there with an am4
socket yes that's cool yes
uh tampon gate
you can watch it there oh we did another episode of ultimate compact pc
nice ooh with the jedi one yeah that's
cool star wars card um i saw a picture of some guy with like
seven of each mining and i was like really
really i'm not even hashtag doing it wrong all
right we'll see you again next week same bad time same that channel
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