WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:08.960 This is just one of the three new GPUs that NVIDIA is launching today, the RTX 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:11.120 5060Ti 16 gig. Where are the rest of 00:00:08.960 --> 00:00:14.160 them? Well, that's a good question, isn't it? And when we reached out to 00:00:12.559 --> 00:00:20.039 NVIDIA's board partners to find the answer, the responses we got back ranged 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:23.760 from complete radio silence 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:28.160 to what? So, I'm supposed to review 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:31.239 these cards with no 5060 to test and no 00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:33.920 5060 Ti 8 gig to test and somehow draw a 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:38.239 conclusion. This is it. This is the point where the game has gotten so 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:44.160 stupid that I'm just not willing to play it anymore. Our job is to give you guys 00:00:40.879 --> 00:00:46.320 an accurate, nonrushed review of these 00:00:44.160 --> 00:00:51.520 things. But if NVIDIA can't do their part and actually launch the cards when 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:55.520 they say they're launching them, my job is impossible. Not to mention that with 00:00:53.760 --> 00:01:00.960 the current state of things, anything that we say about the value of these 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:04.000 supposedly budgetoriented cards would be 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:06.400 meaningless anyway because MSRP needs 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:10.560 about a dozen asterisks beside the S these days. Now, to be clear, I'm not 00:01:08.880 --> 00:01:14.640 blaming Team Green for the state of the global trade situation, but what they do 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:19.759 deserve a good old-fashioned tongue lashing for is how they've managed the 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:23.439 50 series launch. They oversold the performance, shipped 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:27.600 uncharacteristically buggy software, not to mention hardware. They cherrypicked 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:32.479 demos that gloss over some very legitimate downsides to what are in some 00:01:30.320 --> 00:01:36.320 cases legitimately cool features. And then they spread the whole thing out 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:42.200 over months in an attempt to dominate the news cycle for far longer than this 00:01:38.960 --> 00:01:45.040 wet fart of a launch deserves. And for 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:49.360 what? NVIDIA, your shareholders don't even care about this worthless gaming 00:01:47.520 --> 00:01:52.799 segment rounding error anymore. And that's actually the first thing that I 00:01:50.880 --> 00:01:56.640 want to talk about because it feels like with all the intimate dinners with 00:01:54.640 --> 00:02:01.119 presidents and crocodile leather jackets, NVIDIA seems to have become 00:01:58.880 --> 00:02:06.799 grossly out of touch with the gamers that this again budget card is supposed 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:10.479 to delight. Huh? The guy in the leather jacket. You 00:02:08.959 --> 00:02:14.800 don't need to buy expensive GPUs from him. Huh? I said that our sponsor Jawua 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:21.520 is a legit marketplace to buy and sell used GPUs. What? Jesus. He said, "If you 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:21.520 want a good deal on GPUs, just go to 00:02:28.440 --> 00:02:36.160 java.gg. NVIDIA told us that their RTX 5060 series GPUs, which we will be 00:02:34.160 --> 00:02:40.959 covering with unboxings and some light benchmarking over on ShortCircuit, are 00:02:38.239 --> 00:02:45.920 laser focused on users of both older 60class GPUs and game consoles. And if 00:02:44.400 --> 00:02:51.599 you look at the Steam hardware survey, this approach actually makes sense, at 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:53.920 least on the surface. I mean, almost 25% 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:58.959 of users are running some form of 60class GPU, many of which are locked 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:03.440 out of fancy new features like DLSS frame generation and even DLSS AI 00:03:01.519 --> 00:03:07.800 resolution upscaling for that matter. And we actually planned to explore this 00:03:05.840 --> 00:03:13.040 upgrade path angle as part of our review. But here's the critical piece 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:18.000 that NVIDIA seems to be missing. If I bought a base tier GTX 1060, I'm the 00:03:16.239 --> 00:03:23.760 kind of person who probably spends, you know, about 200 bucks on a GPU. Less if 00:03:21.519 --> 00:03:29.720 I can snag a deal. What I'm probably not is the kind of person who spends 300 or 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:34.959 realistically 380 or $430 if I want an appropriate amount of 00:03:32.239 --> 00:03:39.280 VRAM for modern gaming. And NVIDIA's argument only gets dumber if we compare 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:44.239 to console gaming. I mean, to be clear, I fully acknowledge the benefits of PC 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:48.680 gaming. Steam summer sales, free online multiplayer and voice chat, a smorggas 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:54.720 board of games and peripherals spanning decades. But for NVIDIA to roll in one 00:03:52.159 --> 00:04:01.120 week after Nintendo's disastrous reveal that the price of the Switch 2 was $450 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:03.840 and go, "Okay, but hear me out. Instead 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:09.280 of a whole ass console, you could have just the GPU and dinner for two at 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:12.480 McDonald's. It's almost comical. 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:16.320 Speaking of things comical, 00:04:12.480 --> 00:04:18.239 what? Me? Nice. Real nice, Lionus. But 00:04:16.320 --> 00:04:22.560 what's not nice is the way NVIDIA has treated basically everyone like crap on 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:26.960 this launch. We've talked before at length about how NVIDIA's board partners 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:30.759 don't have cards. Their retail partners don't have products to sell. And their 00:04:28.960 --> 00:04:35.680 customers can't even afford their products. But they took a massive dump 00:04:33.280 --> 00:04:40.000 on us, too. When we tried to coordinate dates for our reviews, they told us, 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:45.199 "And I kid you not, just make your content whenever the card 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:47.440 arrives." What? We all know how 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:52.240 important it is to have a review ready the moment a new product launches. And 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:58.000 if there's no set date, it means that whoever charts out some benchmarks first 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:04.000 ends up with the best performing video. This incentivizes loweffort, lowquality 00:05:00.960 --> 00:05:07.479 reviews, which is harmful to gamers. And 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:09.759 it also incentivizes crunch culture. 00:05:07.479 --> 00:05:13.120 Gross. We're going to touch on that a little bit later in this video because 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:17.919 it was a major factor for us when we decided to sit this one out on LT and 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:22.560 upload this video instead of a video dedicated to the performance and 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:27.360 features of the RTX 5060 family. which is a shame because some of NVIDIA's new 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:32.160 AI features legitimately are kind of cool. NVIDIA has data that proves what I 00:05:30.880 --> 00:05:36.400 know from speaking to people anecdotally, and that is that most 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:40.720 gamers don't really care about pixel perfect image quality, and they will 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:45.039 turn on features like AI upscaling and multi-frame gen, which generates three 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:49.759 fake frames for every real frame rendered, and enjoy them. and the 5060 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:54.400 series gives gamers access to these features at a lower price point than 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:59.840 before. We were legitimately excited to see how they might perform. The problem 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:01.840 is that while NVIDIA makes our jobs more 00:05:59.840 --> 00:06:07.120 difficult doing those investigations, they're also ramping up their bombastic 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:12.160 marketing claims, saying things like 50 times the performance for millions of 00:06:09.479 --> 00:06:16.800 gamers. I mean, yeah, sure, if you cherrypick the games that support these 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:21.520 magical more FPS settings, and if you compare to a 9-year-old card that 00:06:19.039 --> 00:06:25.759 doesn't support these features, I guess you can say that. But I guess you can 00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:30.560 also see why NVIDIA, after they say stuff like that, doesn't want too many 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:35.280 actual reviews of these cards. Did you know in other news that my 2021 Civic 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:40.800 Sport is actually faster than Lionus' old 2003 Civic? Just uh don't drag race 00:06:38.960 --> 00:06:45.440 them against each other. Okay. See, NVIDIA, sounds pretty stupid when you 00:06:42.880 --> 00:06:50.479 say it out loud, right? To be clear, I'm not hating on your AI and performance 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:55.120 boosting features. DLSS, multiframe gen, and in the future, Reflex 2 all seem 00:06:53.039 --> 00:06:59.199 like excellent tools to have in my gaming toolkit. And it's also clear that 00:06:57.520 --> 00:07:04.000 all of this stuff is here to stay given that both Intel and AMD have gotten on 00:07:01.520 --> 00:07:08.160 board. I just don't like that you're marketing them in a way that completely 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:12.880 ignores their downsides, like reduced image quality, sluggish input latency, 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:17.440 and whatever Reflex 2's downsides will turn out to be. You're just focusing on 00:07:15.440 --> 00:07:21.919 padding your numbers. Something that's been a bit of a pattern this year. Yeah, 00:07:19.759 --> 00:07:27.840 let's talk about that. It seems like for NVIDIA, MSRP is a complete lie at this 00:07:25.039 --> 00:07:35.360 point. Manufactured suggested retail pricing, more like marketing strategy to 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:37.440 ripoff people got them because they are 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:41.680 never accurate compared to real world prices. It makes it almost impossible 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:45.440 for reviewers to properly assess the value of these things. I'm going to 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:51.120 pretend here and say that every card is MSRP and delivers exactly one frame per 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:55.599 dollar. That would be the ideal scenario for anyone trying to assess how much 00:07:53.039 --> 00:08:00.319 damage they want to do to their wallet. Now, let's say each card stays at the 00:07:57.919 --> 00:08:05.520 same frame rate, but has an extra 50 bucks on it because it's not available 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:07.919 at MSRP. This can dramatically change 00:08:05.520 --> 00:08:14.039 the value proposition of a budget card while barely impacting a high-end one. 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:18.319 Maybe even turning our conclusion from a recommend to a don't buy. And being left 00:08:16.960 --> 00:08:22.400 in the dark on these cards is particularly worrisome since with 00:08:20.479 --> 00:08:27.879 everything going on with global trade right now, we might be lucky if it's 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:34.000 only $50 over MSRP. Oh, sorry. I was just gearing up 00:08:31.919 --> 00:08:38.080 cuz I know this next point is going to make some people mad. Unless you've been 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:43.360 living under a rock, I'm sure that you've heard about the will they won't 00:08:40.479 --> 00:08:46.640 they tariff dance that our red, white, blue, green, and orange neighbors have 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:50.080 been doing for the last little while. We made a whole video on this a few months 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.320 ago explaining that tariffs are a consumer tax and that they will impact 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:59.680 pricing. But what we didn't talk about as much, even though it could be just as 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:01.760 impactful, is the way that the constant 00:08:59.680 --> 00:09:06.880 back and forth of not knowing which tariffs are real and which ones aren't, 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:11.519 is going to impact businesses, small, medium, and large. This kind of 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:16.080 uncertainty affects everything from production forecasting to logistics 00:09:13.839 --> 00:09:21.360 planning, neither of which can just pivot on a dime. So again, I'm not 00:09:19.120 --> 00:09:25.839 blaming NVIDIA specifically if their supply is kind of messed up or if they 00:09:23.920 --> 00:09:31.360 have to increase pricing due to tariffs. I mean, heck, we might run into the same 00:09:27.920 --> 00:09:33.839 thing on LT Store, which totally blows. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:38.800 I'm just saying that as a customer, it is something that you need to be ready 00:09:35.680 --> 00:09:40.680 for with this launch. The Shiptorm sale 00:09:38.800 --> 00:09:44.760 event is live now on ltstore.com. You'll get free shipping on 00:09:43.040 --> 00:09:49.680 any order over $150 worldwide. So, it's a great time to 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:53.200 pick up a commuter backpack or a scribe driver, a screwdriver, or anything else 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:57.040 you've had your eye on. And we're featuring our lowest price ever on our 00:09:55.200 --> 00:10:02.160 magnetic cable management essentials bundle. Go check it out at the link down 00:09:58.880 --> 00:10:04.800 below. Woo! NVIDIA has done at least one 00:10:02.160 --> 00:10:09.680 thing right with the 5060 family. Across the board, it's either on par or cheaper 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:13.920 than last generation, which is welcome considering that wafer costs are rumored 00:10:11.680 --> 00:10:19.680 to have been climbing at an astonishing rate due to TSMC's near monopoly on 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:23.360 cuttingedge microprocessor fabrication. That means that assuming that these 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:27.760 prices are real, even if these cards performed identically to last gen in 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:31.440 native rendering, which they pretty much might, you're at least getting a 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:36.000 slightly better performance per dollar. But of course, I don't know any of that 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:40.200 for sure because to add to this icing on this so-called launch cake, NVIDIA 00:10:38.079 --> 00:10:45.920 didn't give us the review guide or drivers until last Thursday. That is 00:10:43.760 --> 00:10:49.839 just three and a half business days to study the documentation, test, retest, 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:55.120 message NVIDIA in case there are any issues, write the script, edit the script, shoot, edit, review, make fixes, 00:10:53.440 --> 00:11:00.800 review again, confirm that lab's information is accurate, and then post 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:03.760 to YouTube. And okay, sure, I could have 00:11:00.800 --> 00:11:08.399 just asked people nicely or more likely bribed them to give up their weekend in 00:11:05.839 --> 00:11:13.600 order to meet the embargo for this one card. And I have no doubt that our world 00:11:10.880 --> 00:11:19.600 class team could have done it. But real talk here for what? So you guys could be 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:24.480 mad in the comments about how it feels to wait 2 years for a 5% performance 00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:29.440 improvement Sunday that has some fake frame sauce drizzled over top and then 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:36.720 they want me to do it again. And again at some random future juncture when the 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:38.640 other two cards arrive. No man, NVIDIA, 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:42.880 you're acting like that chick that used to be hot and she thinks she's still hot 00:11:40.880 --> 00:11:46.399 and she thinks I'm going to likeing drop everything when she comes calling like 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:50.880 that. But I'm married with three kids now and not only do I love my wife, but 00:11:48.800 --> 00:11:56.200 if we're being honest, you peaked in high school anyway. I'm not playing your 00:11:52.880 --> 00:11:56.200 games anymore. 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:07.040 And honestly, that's a hard thing for me to say. I want to have positive things 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:09.120 to say. I like technology. I want to be 00:12:07.040 --> 00:12:12.519 an enthusiastic voice that's finding the bright points in an increasingly 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:16.880 stagnant PC gaming industry. And I'm committed to 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:21.040 continuing to work with everyone, including NVIDIA, who we have some 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:24.639 really cool projects coming up with that we wouldn't have been able to do without 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:29.360 their sponsorship, including some sick giveaways. Like, I still love the 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:35.839 products. I still use them at home. It's just hard to be excited about them right 00:12:32.839 --> 00:12:38.480 now. And it's especially hard to let you 00:12:35.839 --> 00:12:42.560 guys down. I'm sorry that we didn't have a full review of all of these cards 00:12:40.079 --> 00:12:47.440 today. We wanted to and we're going to do our best within regular office hours 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:51.600 to get some numbers into our ShortCircuit unboxing and we will get some 00:12:49.680 --> 00:12:57.680 more detailed numbers posted on the LT Labs website. 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