1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,960 This is just one of the three new GPUs that NVIDIA is launching today, the RTX 2 00:00:05,879 --> 00:00:11,120 5060Ti 16 gig. Where are the rest of 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,160 them? Well, that's a good question, isn't it? And when we reached out to 4 00:00:12,559 --> 00:00:20,039 NVIDIA's board partners to find the answer, the responses we got back ranged 5 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:23,760 from complete radio silence 6 00:00:20,039 --> 00:00:28,160 to what? So, I'm supposed to review 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:31,239 these cards with no 5060 to test and no 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:33,920 5060 Ti 8 gig to test and somehow draw a 9 00:00:31,239 --> 00:00:38,239 conclusion. This is it. This is the point where the game has gotten so 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:44,160 stupid that I'm just not willing to play it anymore. Our job is to give you guys 11 00:00:40,879 --> 00:00:46,320 an accurate, nonrushed review of these 12 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:51,520 things. But if NVIDIA can't do their part and actually launch the cards when 13 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:55,520 they say they're launching them, my job is impossible. Not to mention that with 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:01:00,960 the current state of things, anything that we say about the value of these 15 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:04,000 supposedly budgetoriented cards would be 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,400 meaningless anyway because MSRP needs 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,560 about a dozen asterisks beside the S these days. Now, to be clear, I'm not 18 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,640 blaming Team Green for the state of the global trade situation, but what they do 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:19,759 deserve a good old-fashioned tongue lashing for is how they've managed the 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:23,439 50 series launch. They oversold the performance, shipped 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:27,600 uncharacteristically buggy software, not to mention hardware. They cherrypicked 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:32,479 demos that gloss over some very legitimate downsides to what are in some 23 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:36,320 cases legitimately cool features. And then they spread the whole thing out 24 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:42,200 over months in an attempt to dominate the news cycle for far longer than this 25 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:45,040 wet fart of a launch deserves. And for 26 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:49,360 what? NVIDIA, your shareholders don't even care about this worthless gaming 27 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,799 segment rounding error anymore. And that's actually the first thing that I 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,640 want to talk about because it feels like with all the intimate dinners with 29 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:01,119 presidents and crocodile leather jackets, NVIDIA seems to have become 30 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:06,799 grossly out of touch with the gamers that this again budget card is supposed 31 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:10,479 to delight. Huh? The guy in the leather jacket. You 32 00:02:08,959 --> 00:02:14,800 don't need to buy expensive GPUs from him. Huh? I said that our sponsor Jawua 33 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:21,520 is a legit marketplace to buy and sell used GPUs. What? Jesus. He said, "If you 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,520 want a good deal on GPUs, just go to 35 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:36,160 java.gg. NVIDIA told us that their RTX 5060 series GPUs, which we will be 36 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:40,959 covering with unboxings and some light benchmarking over on ShortCircuit, are 37 00:02:38,239 --> 00:02:45,920 laser focused on users of both older 60class GPUs and game consoles. And if 38 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:51,599 you look at the Steam hardware survey, this approach actually makes sense, at 39 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,920 least on the surface. I mean, almost 25% 40 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:58,959 of users are running some form of 60class GPU, many of which are locked 41 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:03,440 out of fancy new features like DLSS frame generation and even DLSS AI 42 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:07,800 resolution upscaling for that matter. And we actually planned to explore this 43 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:13,040 upgrade path angle as part of our review. But here's the critical piece 44 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:18,000 that NVIDIA seems to be missing. If I bought a base tier GTX 1060, I'm the 45 00:03:16,239 --> 00:03:23,760 kind of person who probably spends, you know, about 200 bucks on a GPU. Less if 46 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:29,720 I can snag a deal. What I'm probably not is the kind of person who spends 300 or 47 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:34,959 realistically 380 or $430 if I want an appropriate amount of 48 00:03:32,239 --> 00:03:39,280 VRAM for modern gaming. And NVIDIA's argument only gets dumber if we compare 49 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:44,239 to console gaming. I mean, to be clear, I fully acknowledge the benefits of PC 50 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:48,680 gaming. Steam summer sales, free online multiplayer and voice chat, a smorggas 51 00:03:46,319 --> 00:03:54,720 board of games and peripherals spanning decades. But for NVIDIA to roll in one 52 00:03:52,159 --> 00:04:01,120 week after Nintendo's disastrous reveal that the price of the Switch 2 was $450 53 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:03,840 and go, "Okay, but hear me out. Instead 54 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:09,280 of a whole ass console, you could have just the GPU and dinner for two at 55 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:12,480 McDonald's. It's almost comical. 56 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaking of things comical, 57 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:18,239 what? Me? Nice. Real nice, Lionus. But 58 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,560 what's not nice is the way NVIDIA has treated basically everyone like crap on 59 00:04:20,639 --> 00:04:26,960 this launch. We've talked before at length about how NVIDIA's board partners 60 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:30,759 don't have cards. Their retail partners don't have products to sell. And their 61 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:35,680 customers can't even afford their products. But they took a massive dump 62 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:40,000 on us, too. When we tried to coordinate dates for our reviews, they told us, 63 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:45,199 "And I kid you not, just make your content whenever the card 64 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:47,440 arrives." What? We all know how 65 00:04:45,199 --> 00:04:52,240 important it is to have a review ready the moment a new product launches. And 66 00:04:49,759 --> 00:04:58,000 if there's no set date, it means that whoever charts out some benchmarks first 67 00:04:55,199 --> 00:05:04,000 ends up with the best performing video. This incentivizes loweffort, lowquality 68 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:07,479 reviews, which is harmful to gamers. And 69 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,759 it also incentivizes crunch culture. 70 00:05:07,479 --> 00:05:13,120 Gross. We're going to touch on that a little bit later in this video because 71 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:17,919 it was a major factor for us when we decided to sit this one out on LT and 72 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:22,560 upload this video instead of a video dedicated to the performance and 73 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:27,360 features of the RTX 5060 family. which is a shame because some of NVIDIA's new 74 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:32,160 AI features legitimately are kind of cool. NVIDIA has data that proves what I 75 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,400 know from speaking to people anecdotally, and that is that most 76 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:40,720 gamers don't really care about pixel perfect image quality, and they will 77 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:45,039 turn on features like AI upscaling and multi-frame gen, which generates three 78 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:49,759 fake frames for every real frame rendered, and enjoy them. and the 5060 79 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:54,400 series gives gamers access to these features at a lower price point than 80 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:59,840 before. We were legitimately excited to see how they might perform. The problem 81 00:05:56,639 --> 00:06:01,840 is that while NVIDIA makes our jobs more 82 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:07,120 difficult doing those investigations, they're also ramping up their bombastic 83 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:12,160 marketing claims, saying things like 50 times the performance for millions of 84 00:06:09,479 --> 00:06:16,800 gamers. I mean, yeah, sure, if you cherrypick the games that support these 85 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:21,520 magical more FPS settings, and if you compare to a 9-year-old card that 86 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:25,759 doesn't support these features, I guess you can say that. But I guess you can 87 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:30,560 also see why NVIDIA, after they say stuff like that, doesn't want too many 88 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:35,280 actual reviews of these cards. Did you know in other news that my 2021 Civic 89 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:40,800 Sport is actually faster than Lionus' old 2003 Civic? Just uh don't drag race 90 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:45,440 them against each other. Okay. See, NVIDIA, sounds pretty stupid when you 91 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:50,479 say it out loud, right? To be clear, I'm not hating on your AI and performance 92 00:06:47,759 --> 00:06:55,120 boosting features. DLSS, multiframe gen, and in the future, Reflex 2 all seem 93 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:59,199 like excellent tools to have in my gaming toolkit. And it's also clear that 94 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:04,000 all of this stuff is here to stay given that both Intel and AMD have gotten on 95 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:08,160 board. I just don't like that you're marketing them in a way that completely 96 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,880 ignores their downsides, like reduced image quality, sluggish input latency, 97 00:07:10,319 --> 00:07:17,440 and whatever Reflex 2's downsides will turn out to be. You're just focusing on 98 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:21,919 padding your numbers. Something that's been a bit of a pattern this year. Yeah, 99 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:27,840 let's talk about that. It seems like for NVIDIA, MSRP is a complete lie at this 100 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:35,360 point. Manufactured suggested retail pricing, more like marketing strategy to 101 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,440 ripoff people got them because they are 102 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:41,680 never accurate compared to real world prices. It makes it almost impossible 103 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:45,440 for reviewers to properly assess the value of these things. I'm going to 104 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:51,120 pretend here and say that every card is MSRP and delivers exactly one frame per 105 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:55,599 dollar. That would be the ideal scenario for anyone trying to assess how much 106 00:07:53,039 --> 00:08:00,319 damage they want to do to their wallet. Now, let's say each card stays at the 107 00:07:57,919 --> 00:08:05,520 same frame rate, but has an extra 50 bucks on it because it's not available 108 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:07,919 at MSRP. This can dramatically change 109 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:14,039 the value proposition of a budget card while barely impacting a high-end one. 110 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:18,319 Maybe even turning our conclusion from a recommend to a don't buy. And being left 111 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:22,400 in the dark on these cards is particularly worrisome since with 112 00:08:20,479 --> 00:08:27,879 everything going on with global trade right now, we might be lucky if it's 113 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:34,000 only $50 over MSRP. Oh, sorry. I was just gearing up 114 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:38,080 cuz I know this next point is going to make some people mad. Unless you've been 115 00:08:36,399 --> 00:08:43,360 living under a rock, I'm sure that you've heard about the will they won't 116 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:46,640 they tariff dance that our red, white, blue, green, and orange neighbors have 117 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:50,080 been doing for the last little while. We made a whole video on this a few months 118 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:54,320 ago explaining that tariffs are a consumer tax and that they will impact 119 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:59,680 pricing. But what we didn't talk about as much, even though it could be just as 120 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:01,760 impactful, is the way that the constant 121 00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:06,880 back and forth of not knowing which tariffs are real and which ones aren't, 122 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:11,519 is going to impact businesses, small, medium, and large. This kind of 123 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:16,080 uncertainty affects everything from production forecasting to logistics 124 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:21,360 planning, neither of which can just pivot on a dime. So again, I'm not 125 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:25,839 blaming NVIDIA specifically if their supply is kind of messed up or if they 126 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:31,360 have to increase pricing due to tariffs. I mean, heck, we might run into the same 127 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,839 thing on LT Store, which totally blows. 128 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:38,800 I'm just saying that as a customer, it is something that you need to be ready 129 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:40,680 for with this launch. The Shiptorm sale 130 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:44,760 event is live now on ltstore.com. You'll get free shipping on 131 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,680 any order over $150 worldwide. So, it's a great time to 132 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:53,200 pick up a commuter backpack or a scribe driver, a screwdriver, or anything else 133 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:57,040 you've had your eye on. And we're featuring our lowest price ever on our 134 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:02,160 magnetic cable management essentials bundle. Go check it out at the link down 135 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,800 below. Woo! NVIDIA has done at least one 136 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:09,680 thing right with the 5060 family. Across the board, it's either on par or cheaper 137 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,920 than last generation, which is welcome considering that wafer costs are rumored 138 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:19,680 to have been climbing at an astonishing rate due to TSMC's near monopoly on 139 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:23,360 cuttingedge microprocessor fabrication. That means that assuming that these 140 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,760 prices are real, even if these cards performed identically to last gen in 141 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:31,440 native rendering, which they pretty much might, you're at least getting a 142 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:36,000 slightly better performance per dollar. But of course, I don't know any of that 143 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:40,200 for sure because to add to this icing on this so-called launch cake, NVIDIA 144 00:10:38,079 --> 00:10:45,920 didn't give us the review guide or drivers until last Thursday. That is 145 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:49,839 just three and a half business days to study the documentation, test, retest, 146 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:55,120 message NVIDIA in case there are any issues, write the script, edit the script, shoot, edit, review, make fixes, 147 00:10:53,440 --> 00:11:00,800 review again, confirm that lab's information is accurate, and then post 148 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:03,760 to YouTube. And okay, sure, I could have 149 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:08,399 just asked people nicely or more likely bribed them to give up their weekend in 150 00:11:05,839 --> 00:11:13,600 order to meet the embargo for this one card. And I have no doubt that our world 151 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:19,600 class team could have done it. But real talk here for what? So you guys could be 152 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:24,480 mad in the comments about how it feels to wait 2 years for a 5% performance 153 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:29,440 improvement Sunday that has some fake frame sauce drizzled over top and then 154 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:36,720 they want me to do it again. And again at some random future juncture when the 155 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:38,640 other two cards arrive. No man, NVIDIA, 156 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:42,880 you're acting like that chick that used to be hot and she thinks she's still hot 157 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,399 and she thinks I'm going to likeing drop everything when she comes calling like 158 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:50,880 that. But I'm married with three kids now and not only do I love my wife, but 159 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:56,200 if we're being honest, you peaked in high school anyway. I'm not playing your 160 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,200 games anymore. 161 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:07,040 And honestly, that's a hard thing for me to say. I want to have positive things 162 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:09,120 to say. I like technology. I want to be 163 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,519 an enthusiastic voice that's finding the bright points in an increasingly 164 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:16,880 stagnant PC gaming industry. And I'm committed to 165 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:21,040 continuing to work with everyone, including NVIDIA, who we have some 166 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,639 really cool projects coming up with that we wouldn't have been able to do without 167 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:29,360 their sponsorship, including some sick giveaways. Like, I still love the 168 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:35,839 products. I still use them at home. It's just hard to be excited about them right 169 00:12:32,839 --> 00:12:38,480 now. And it's especially hard to let you 170 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:42,560 guys down. I'm sorry that we didn't have a full review of all of these cards 171 00:12:40,079 --> 00:12:47,440 today. We wanted to and we're going to do our best within regular office hours 172 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:51,600 to get some numbers into our ShortCircuit unboxing and we will get some 173 00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:57,680 more detailed numbers posted on the LT Labs website. 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