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Dear diary, with each passing day without innovation from NVIDIA's board

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partners, I cry a little. No, I cry a

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lot. [snorts] Remember the good times we had together when they were the first

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company to add asymmetrical cooling to the MX440 or [snorts] put heat pipes on

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the GeForce 4 Ti 4600E? Remember when they let you update your

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BIOS without a CPU installed? I just miss them so much. Why? Why did you have

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to leave us? I don't care if some of your innovations never took off, like

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the red colored GPU that was $50 more

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because it was red. I [snorts] just want you back.

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Ah, box of graphics cards. Oh, EVGA, how

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did you know I would build this computer with all the super cool stuff you don't

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make anymore? And how did you know I would tell the people about our sponsor,

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it'll stay as cool as you with all your stuff plugged in. Check it out at the

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link below. Using parts from this box and some other ones that we tracked down

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with some help from EVGA, we are going to be building the most EVGA PC ever.

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I'm talking GPU, sure, of course, but

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also motherboard, power supply, RAM. EPG

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made RAM. Yes. Yes, they did. And as we

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put together our system, we'll also be taking a little trip down memory lane,

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looking through our care packages at some of the ideas that EVGA brought to

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life over the years, the good and [music]

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also the bad. Let's start with what's in this box. And look at that. I've got a

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special guest, the only other person who works here who's old enough to remember all this stuff. Maybe too old.

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[laughter] Now, before we get started, tell me this. As a certified ASUS shill, are you

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allowed to wear EVGA shirts? Absolutely. All right, let's do it.

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I've been released of my ASUS contract. There, that's better. Now, look,

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they didn't have everything in the archives to send us. I would have loved

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to get my hands on the 275 co-op, for

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example. The very first GPU Fizzx

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Accelerator combo card. Yes. And the very last one also

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very last one that was not a very successful concept but we do still have

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some really neat stuff. Now not everything that EVGA you know innovated

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was their own innovation. This for example is a 7950 GX2. This [music] is

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two GPUs each on their own independent cards with an SLI bridge in between

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them. But the innovation was that they were crazy enough to partner with NVIDIA

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to do it. I believe it was them and ASUS. [music]

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Oh, that's right. But not even As ASUS was crazy enough [music] to build one of

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these. No, their own dual GPU. This is the 460

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to win. [music] To win. Get it? Two. Twin.

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Oh, twin. No, it's two win. Okay. The cool thing about this is back

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then two mid-range cards in SLI could be

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quite performance competitive with a single higherend one and at a price that

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you know was like a 480. Yeah. Or, you know, sometimes even less

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if you could get them on a deal. The issue is that as soon as you put the

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engineering into building a combo card

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Yeah. [laughter] out the window. Yeah. It all went out the window. This thing was about $700.

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It's kind of no wonder NVIDIA doesn't let the partners build stuff like that

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anymore. But still, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. You talk to anyone from the board

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partners, and that's all they'll talk about is how much more fun it was to

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build cards back in the day. Uh, how about this one right here? [music]

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This would have been something that would have been pretty tough to compete with,

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right? 980 Ti Kingpin. Do you remember what was

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special about this guy? I just know Vince put a lot of work into

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it. Honestly, that's a great summary. Vince Lucido or Kingpin worked with EVGA on

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this card to dramatically increase the available power to it from 250 watt

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stock to 450 W. That involved adding

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additional power connectors to it, a full back plate, and of course this all

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copper drop dead sexy cooling design. Do

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you want to pick the next card? Ah, I actually bought one of these.

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Of course you did. This 9800 GX2. They had three different

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versions. overclocked. Super overclocked.

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The SSC. I tease it. I tease EVGA. Yeah. Wait,

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that is just super super overclocked. Yeah, I know. And then they had the the

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KO. There was a 25 MHz difference on the

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core clock and the memory clock as you went up the range. But the main reason I

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chose EVGA, it was the uh design cuz I

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actually wanted the PNY XLR8.

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Yeah. Yeah. ASUS had the uh top card had

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the highest memory overclock and it equaled on or or was right below on on

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the core clock on that probably had like a cringy anime character did and it looked like the

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anime character was in the middle of an autopsy.

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That was really fun. But I think we all know that builds don't start with GPUs.

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They start with a motherboard which conveniently EVGA also has. They've

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actually been in the motherboard business for a long time starting in

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2005. And I guess if you think about it, it was a pretty natural progression for

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them because a lot of the same principles uh designing a board with a

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good circuit layout and excellent power and cooling management go into both GPUs

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and motherboards. Now, in the early days, EVGA did less of the engineering

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on their own. One of their most famous boards was simply an NVIDIA reference

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design for the 680i chipset that EVGA put their label on. But over time, EVGA

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got pretty darn innovative, even launching Intel chipset motherboards in

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2008 once NVIDIA left the market. There were a couple of noteworthy milestones

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that EVGA hit first. In fact, they were the first to make an XLATX motherboard

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that allowed four-way SLI with four dual

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slot cards. And this boy right here, the

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EVGA classified SR2 or Super Record 2,

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was I don't know how to put this other than utterly unique. It allowed

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overclocking on dual Intel Xeon processors and you guessed it, the

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ability to install up to four graphics

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cards in SLI simultaneously. It is both

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taller and wider than any motherboard

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standard that existed for consumers at the time. Now, because of that, we are

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not going to be using it. There are no cases these days that will fit this

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thing, but we do intend to do a video with this Retro Monster in the future.

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So, make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss it. By the way, speaking of retro, our new retro colorway

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Instead, we've gone with something a little more modern. We've got a Z790

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Dark Kingpin. This is an $800 board for

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12th to 14th gen Intel processors with a 14 layer PCB, 21 phase VRM, support for

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up to 64 gigs of DDR5 at 8,000 mega

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transfers per second. And this is really cool. They've managed to build in

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support for PCI Express Gen 5 by6 to

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either of their 16x slots. That means

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you can get full performance out of a PCIe Gen 5 GPU that's installed way down

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here. That could be important if, say, for example, you're going for an

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overclocking record and you need more room for the sub-zero cooling apparatus

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you have up here. Can I just say how amazing it is, how well these guys know

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their customers. How cool is this? It's a bare PCB with kind of a stripped down

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block diagram. This is the neatest swag I think I've ever seen included with a

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product. Almost as neat as the board itself.

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[laughter] Oh, that reminds me. Here's an EVGA

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motherboard innovation. They were the first to include right angle connectors

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on their P67 FTW. Not everything they did was particularly innovative. About a

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decade ago, they came out with a number of superclocked and super superc clocked

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DDR3 and DDR4 memory kits. As far as I

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can tell with these, the product development process went something like

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this. But hey, they were speedy at the time and competitively priced.

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Unfortunately, these are too outdated for us to use in this system. So, for

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RAM and actually storage, now that I come to think about it, we've [music]

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just gone with third party options. Thankfully, that won't be necessary for

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our case. These are really hard to get

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your hands on these days because as far as we can tell, anyone who owns them is

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holding on to them for dear [music] life. EVGA's DG85 is part of the DG8

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series that came out in 2016. It was very wellreceived, but check this out.

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There's a lower compartment where you put your power supply. That's pretty [music] normal. But what's this? IO down

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here, including HDMI for your VR

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headset. That's super cool. And that's just the beginning. You've seen interior

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cable management. What about exterior cable management? Why would they need

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that, you ask? So the entire back of the case can have this clean look, all

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hidden away by this awesome door.

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Man, we got all kinds of stuff going on here. Easily removable dust filter,

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triple [snorts] fans in the front. Hey, Plof. We said that SR2 board wouldn't

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fit in this case, but I think it [music] would. Will it fit HPTX?

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It kind of looks like it. We should build it in there then. Uh, yeah, later. Later. For now, we're

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building a real computer anyone would actually want to use today.

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Hello. Ooh. Hey. Hey. You know, it was a little on the pricey side at almost

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$200, but for everything it's got going on, that feels like a deal. What are you

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thinking for the closed loop cooler top mount? Yes. But why did I call it a closed loop

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cooler instead of an all-in-one or AIO? Because that's what EVGA does. Meet the

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CLC X. They've actually done a couple of

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different closed loop coolers, but this is their most recent. It's available in

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configurations with up to three 120 mm fans and compatible with all the latest

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sockets. There's not a whole lot more for me to say about it. So, [music]

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while we install it, why don't we do some EVGA history? Did you know that

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EVGA originally stood for e-commerce video graphics array? They were founded

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in 1999 by Andrew Han and Keith Roford

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and they were [music] the first company to make driver installation seamless for

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gamers with ADM or automatic [music] driver management. Does this thing have

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three BIOS chips on it with a selector switch? That is wild. Next up is our

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power supply. And this segment is as much about EVGA's past as it is about

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their future. Did you know that the Supernova 850 and 750G2 units were the

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first to offer an eco mode switch, which is [music] neat, but we're not using

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those? Instead, we've got a big beefy

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boy, the EVGA Supernova 1600T.

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It is fully modular, 80 plus titanium

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efficient, and cost about $500.

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EVGA's entry into the power supply market was marked by consistent quality,

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aggressive pricing, and their trademark strong post sales support. [music] From

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talking to them today, power supplies are very much a part of their future

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going forward, and we wish them the best of luck with that.

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Naturally, we have gone with the king of EVGA GPUs, the RTX 3090 Ti for the Win

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3. Did you guys know that aside from helping us get graphics cards into the

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hands of gamers at MSRP during the great crypto winter, EVGA also had their own Q

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system to try to deter scalpers, they also ran their step up program for

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years, allowing anyone to simply trade in their card and pay the difference if

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a newer model came out within 90 days of purchase just to give their customers a

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little peace of mind. And back in the day, they used to offer lifetime

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warranties on their GPUs, giving their customers the assurance that they would

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never have a problem with an EVGA graphics card. Now, I want to solve the

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mystery of the giant piece of acrylic with an EVGA logo on it. I don't get

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this, man. There's no obvious place that it goes.

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I'm sure EVGA is going to watch this and go, "Oh, my Wait, I found it. It's in

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between what we both thought. It is inside the window but not at the back

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just to kind of clean the place up a little.

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Okay, that looks really sharp. Last piece here is the front panel, but we

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are far from the end of our adventure because EVGA also makes peripherals.

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We've got the whole works today. We got the Torx

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Torque X10 deskpad. I've got the X20 mouse. And

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Plof here is unboxing their Z20 keyboard. We also have their XR1 Pro

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capture card. The mouse is a fun one. I guess we got this from EVGA and it

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didn't quite make the cut for shipping to customers. At any rate, we've got

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another first here. This is the world's first triple sensor mouse. So, it's got

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a Pixart 3335 optical sensor, which is pretty normal, but it has dual liftoff

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distance detection sensors, which is not normal, but I guess in theory allows you

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to really fine-tune your liftoff distance. Yeah. You know, when you go and you put

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it back down. Heck yeah. Now, I noticed something weird about this keyboard cuz I know

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that years ago it did come with this button, but what happened to it?

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Uh, I am not sure. Yeah, well, they don't have E3 anymore,

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so Ah,

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this is looking good. Now it's time for the Piesta Resistance EVGA's sound card.

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I'm kidding. We actually would have, but we couldn't get our hands on one of those. I'm talking instead about the

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Interview 1700 dual monitor system. My friends,

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you could fit so many global patents in this bad boy. For real though, 14.

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[music] Unfortunately, this product kind of sunk

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their monitor line. It was innovative, sure, but they say that the downturn in

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the market in 2008 and 2009 was just terrible timing for it to launch. I

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think it had other problems like say for example that this is clearly a

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businessforward product from a company that up until then had been almost

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entirely focused on gamers. But to me,

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it was more about the unnecessariness of it. I mean, why buy two 17inch TN

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monitors when you can buy one one [music] dual 17inch TN monitor? There

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was cool stuff, though. Had an integrated 1.3 megapixel webcam which

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could swivel, a built-in microphone, three USBA ports. I mean, if they had

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launched this thing right in the start of the COVID pandemic, boom, they would

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have nailed it. They got the wrong global crisis. [laughter]

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Yet another problem is that it used a connector that you've probably never

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heard of. DMS59 [music] or dual monitor solution 59

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pins. I love engineer names. Count them. Count those pins. [laughter]

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No. The monitors ran at 1440 by 900 each

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or WXGA plus, which is not to be confused with WXGA, the other WXGA,

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WSXG, or WSXGA plus. Don't you miss when

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we named monitor resolutions like that? It was great. It makes full HD, UHD, QHD seem

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downright sensible. Anyway, none of that

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was the big feature. The big feature was

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this. WA. WANT to show the client what you're

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working on? It's pretty cool.

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Compared to today, these monitors, [music] aside from being ti, are not

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great with a 500 to1 contrast ratio.

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Yes, that is hundreds. 220 nit peak brightness and 8 millisecond pixel

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response times. But this thing would have been pretty sick for office use

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back in the day except that affordable

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larger panels were like kind of common place and 17 in was kind of bad.

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Yeah, it's an all-in-one solution though so that I can what? Take it with me.

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Yeah, look at that. It's great. Walk away. We got this. All we need is two display

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port to DVI adapters. Oh wow, that is

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[gasps] it powered on. We've spent so much time talking about

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EVGA's awesome design. This interview logo, not their finest work. I don't

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think this mouse works. Oh my god, this does not illuminate.

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Okay, hold on. Let's get a mouse stock. More like dead stock.

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Dead stock. Have you guys got the interview already? Yeah.

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Okay, that's great cuz I brought a vampire.

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Oh my god. Interview with the vampire.

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Wow. That looks like garbage. [laughter] That's TN panel from 20 what? 2009.

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One of the strats back in the day, you guys, was to put a glossy surface on the

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screen to kind of try and uh boost the perceived contrast and clarity. It

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didn't work. Okay. What games are we playing? Uh whatever you want. Halo Counter

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Strike. Nice. It's You know what? It's not 60 Hz. Linus. It's better than 60 Hz.

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Wow. That motion blur ghosting trail.

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[laughter] It looks like I have mouse pointer trails on. It's pretty bad day. Check the check

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display settings though. 66.350.

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Hey, [screaming] this is it, guys.

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Match is ready. This for better or for worse. This rig

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is as EVGA as any rig can be. It's dead

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quiet. Hey. Yeah. Should we get it closed up? It looks amazing.

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Let's close it. Let's close it. It is a beautiful case. Okay. You going to peel one side? I was

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gonna wait for the SR2 build. Yeah, we kind of have to do my side.

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Let's wait for the SR2 build. Do do the inside. Do the inside, P. All right,

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there. It's at least a little bit more clear. We're going to see it in all of

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its glory next time. There we go. An EVGA gamer. Okay, here

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we go. Oh my goodness. This is the worst thing ever. It's playable.

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This monitor is I don't remember badness

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like this. Technically, I'm terrorist.

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Look, I can't tell on this monitor. Flaming [music] the peripherals.

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Well, I mean, a little bit. Yeah, that's what a real gamer does.

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Look, that's my blood on the wall. No, I'm going to win. You get a kill.

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I I couldn't even see my crosshair, dude. [laughter] I couldn't even see it.

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Wow. It's pretty bad. Oh. Oh. OH. COME

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ON. I didn't hit him at all. No. No. I got this. I'm going to get a kill. [music]

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All right. One kill. Oh, no. I had the bomb. Okay. Well,

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yeah. Well, follow your team. Follow your team. Yeah. No, just toss it to your teammates. Just rush B. Rush B.

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Rush B. Well, what? They're not rushing you. You said follow the damn team. What

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is this? HOW DID THAT NOT [screaming] KILL HIM? YOU WERE AIMING ON HIS LEFT SHOULDER.

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His right. Camera left. Camera left. I can see it from here. That was his head.

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I mean, if it was his head, he'd be dead. [laughter]

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Right. I brought up Floatplane cuz we were talking about how you could stream on here. Float playing. Great streaming

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quality. Great for show. It's got a webcam right there.

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Okay. You wouldn't use that. In fairness to me, this is pretty bad, huh?

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It's pretty bad. Like remember when 40 milliseconds of input lag was a thing?

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I know. This feels really rough. So floaty. It's pretty. Yeah, right.

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I can tell you have no control right now.

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Oh, it's so bad. You ran me at his shoulder. I was I was I can admit when I was

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aiming at the wrong spot. This sucks. [laughter] It's so hard.

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Okay, here. Colton, you want to turn? Whoa. What are we doing? You got to try to get one kill.

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What do you mean I got to try to get one kill? Easy. What are you talking about? The challenge is over when you get one

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kill. Oh, what is [laughter] happening? Hold on. No, you're dead. You're dead.

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Okay. Yeah. He doesn't even know he's spectating.

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The monitor's called the interview. Do you get the joke now? Why he's wearing a

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cape? Yeah. The joke is that you should probably do some

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I didn't even realize what I was gaming on. What? What is [laughter] this?

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Why? Yeah, but what if I wanted to watch the game? Does it even flip? Oh, it does.

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It did. That was really good. Okay, that's pretty cool. That was really good.

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If you manage to put a bullet on target, you'll be ahead of me in blue.

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No, [laughter] he did. That seems like a really high refresh

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rate. Uh good uh gaming uh device.

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66 hertz. 60 66.

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I got one. Head shot. Whoa. No way. Yeah.

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Boom. Head shot. Well, that's a tall order. It was

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a nice shot, though. You could barely see his head. That was pretty good. Now that some time has passed, we've asked

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EVGA, "Hey, why did you guys end your partnership with NVIDIA and stopped

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making graphics cards in general? And after some PR talk, it basically boiled

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down to the market being tilted toward the chip manufacturers and away from the

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add-in board partners, meaning that their margins were razor thin and

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[music] it just wasn't worth it anymore. It also seemed like they weren't happy

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with chip manufacturer restrictions that limited their ability to innovate, which

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as you guys saw earlier was a big part of what EVGA was about. Nor were they

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happy with how expensive graphics cards, a [music] product meant for fun

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primarily, were getting. They said that NVIDIA has strong technology and they

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wish them all the best in their future endeavors, which apparently is all AI

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all the time now. So, take that as you will for now. We sincerely wish EVGA the

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best. [music] They didn't sponsor this video or anything. And if I'm being honest, I

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don't know if they're going to be around to honor their legendary 10-year [music]

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warranties. Their product lineup has shrunk and shrunk and shrunk down to it

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seems like they're going to be quite focused on power supplies going forward. [music] But hey, we've still got a lot

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of fond memories, and this was a lot of fun to do. You'll [music] find links to

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some of their products in the video description below. Um, and you'll also

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