WEBVTT 00:00:02.679 --> 00:00:10.719 oh there's a Star Wars ad playing on Twitch in my ears and I'm distracted but 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:12.360 it's Lego bb8 Wow you can play as bb-8 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:17.960 you can't even be mad about this like it's awesome I am actually really not 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:21.720 that wow you can't mute it and you can't pause it anymore welcome to Twitch you 00:00:19.920 --> 00:00:28.960 can't just say watch this thing glitches out it's funny you can't just say I 00:00:26.279 --> 00:00:32.239 H this is ridiculous you can't just say no I actually don't want to watch The 00:00:30.720 --> 00:00:36.480 Stream in my own dashboard I actually just want to 00:00:34.440 --> 00:00:40.800 monitor chat and make changes to the stream I still can't pause it welcome to 00:00:39.120 --> 00:00:45.520 the WAN Show guys we've got a lot of great topics for you today and some 00:00:42.440 --> 00:00:47.360 fairly mediocre ones and uh some that 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:53.399 are actually just downright boring but we're going to do our best to spice them 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:55.359 up and uh what are you doing I'm being a 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:58.680 bro you're being a bro yeah I gave him thumbs up gave him another thumbs up 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:03.680 give him both thumbs up gave this hand a high five gave that hand a high 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:08.439 so you're like a self bro yeah self bro bro yourself yeah okay um bro yourself 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:14.000 so Germany's Fusion reactor creates hydrogen Plasma in a world first which 00:01:11.080 --> 00:01:20.560 is kind of like you know hydrogen atoms Brewing each other um Microsoft is 00:01:17.640 --> 00:01:25.040 testing underwater data centers a world first yeah and Google is going to be 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:29.360 beaming 5G internet from like solar drones and stuff which is a world 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:35.200 hopefully they don't bro themselves because then they fall yeah Brewing 00:01:31.320 --> 00:01:38.520 planes is bad plane broe bro you don't 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:40.360 want to do that anyways also Microsoft 00:01:38.520 --> 00:01:45.200 Windows 10's really annoying when it tries to like do the thing automatically 00:01:42.520 --> 00:01:48.960 not just tries when it succeeds at doing things automatically like bricks your 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:57.209 computer all right let's roll that intro thanks Microsoft 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:14.239 says he's gring 00:02:14.239 --> 00:02:20.519 himself oh no it says wow wow so that's 00:02:17.720 --> 00:02:27.480 just by the way you're in charge of the uh uh squ me fres and put that up there 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:30.400 and then go back so this guy right here I thought it said your name so this guy 00:02:28.959 --> 00:02:35.599 right here is like oh yeah here look at look at the twitch chat look at the twitch chat look at the 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:40.040 twitch chat and the message is just like Luke is one fine specimen of a human man 00:02:38.720 --> 00:02:44.640 or something like that I thought it said lus and did I say lonus just now I said 00:02:42.760 --> 00:02:49.280 no I thought it said yeah so I'm so and I'm just 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:51.560 like okay why are you showing me this 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:54.959 it's like I yeah I get it you're hot I thought it you don't have to rub it in 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.560 my face if you're going to rub your hotness in my face it could at least be 00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:03.200 after the show I was was trying I thought that I 00:03:01.519 --> 00:03:06.840 was trying to share a compliment from someone else to you I didn't realize 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:11.360 that I was trying to share a compliment from someone else to me with you it's 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:16.040 like I mean what's next are you going to like screenshot it and send an email to 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:20.120 your Mom hey Mom look this random person on the internet likes me look Mom you 00:03:17.640 --> 00:03:20.120 made a good 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:28.439 human oh my good so oh that wasn't 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:34.200 awkward at all let's jump right into our first topic from giving TNT on the Forum 00:03:31.640 --> 00:03:39.720 original article here is from iflscience.com want to throw us over on 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:43.760 my uh oh wow yeah with you in charge of the links and changing this that's going 00:03:41.799 --> 00:03:50.879 to be kind of hard Germany Fusion reactor creates hydrogen Plasma in a 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:53.360 world first now this right here I mean 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:57.519 yeah we did seven Gamers one CPU we're talking $30,000 computer no my friends 00:03:56.360 --> 00:04:02.040 that is a $1.1 billion 00:04:00.640 --> 00:04:07.360 Fusion reactor but like the the idea you want 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:11.760 to go back oh no I'm just I I realized that we are not here do you remember 00:04:10.040 --> 00:04:18.320 which one we are no but I can figure this out while you talk that's not 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:20.239 it that's a fun thing though that's cool 00:04:18.320 --> 00:04:25.120 anyways one of the huge yes it costs a lot right now but the idea is that you 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:29.520 can make basically back Limitless clean energy which is like kind of maybe worth 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:35.560 it kind of something we need right now I was talking to Taran about this in the car the other day actually Taran is both 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:40.000 irritating and fun to talk to in the car because he deps what the topic is he 00:04:37.919 --> 00:04:44.600 yeah it can be wonderful yeah or it can be just sort of 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:47.160 like why would I why do you care why why 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:53.160 why would anyone care about this tan please For the Love of All that is good 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:55.120 move on thank you um you just like and 00:04:53.160 --> 00:05:00.280 I'll do it sure okay I'll go like this yeah or I'll like or I'll like touch 00:04:57.039 --> 00:05:01.840 your thigh okay okay um 00:05:00.280 --> 00:05:05.720 anyway he was saying that we've used up something along the lines of half of the 00:05:03.520 --> 00:05:09.320 world's oil Reserve uh the only reason we have oil is because of there being a 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:14.440 lot of oxygen in the air like 200 million years ago or something ridiculous like that and we had Global 00:05:12.520 --> 00:05:18.720 forests which at the time because there was nothing that could break down that 00:05:16.039 --> 00:05:22.319 could decompose wood would just fall on top of each other Global firestorms they 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:30.880 would burn then they'd fall on top of each other some more and then in the swamps all this eventually turned into 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:33.240 yay petroleum so what we run out of oil 00:05:30.880 --> 00:05:37.199 which we probably won't for a very very very very very long time it's just going 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:39.600 to get a lot more expensive because we're going to have to extract it 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:43.720 difficult to get to it it's like Yay Canadian economy we're going to have to 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:48.319 uh extract it from places like the oil sands where the price has to be higher 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:51.360 in order to make it economical to do it um so we're not going to be able to rely 00:05:49.800 --> 00:05:57.600 on it to nearly the same extent that we can now so electricity like sounds well 00:05:55.000 --> 00:06:01.479 fine and good it's like yeah I've got an electric vehicle I'm helping the the 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:06.960 environment except that your electric vehicle is probably being charged with 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:12.000 electricity that was produced from burning coal depends where 00:06:10.440 --> 00:06:16.599 you live depending on where you live you live in BC no then it's legitimately 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:22.599 actually falling water that's taken care of most of your in fact our our power 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:24.680 company is called BC Hydro Hydro that is 00:06:22.599 --> 00:06:28.240 not our water company I don't even know what our water company is called to be 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:31.759 fair it's probably both we're not that big 00:06:30.080 --> 00:06:35.560 they might just have one group manage all of it so BC Hydro like it's pretty 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:38.880 much all Hydro power up here but if you if you live somewhere where most of the 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:44.880 poers being provided by coal there's actually it's not like I believe it is 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:49.240 still better to produce the electricity in one place economies of scale etc etc 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:52.840 but it's not like you know yay I'm just using renewable energy sources or 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:58.240 anything like that sorry I'm really not feeling well 00:06:55.400 --> 00:07:01.520 this week I'm having sort of a sort of a great week should not be feeling well 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:09.160 yeah my we've got a new employee here who came in and started giving everyone 00:07:06.599 --> 00:07:13.560 these crazy like weekly video quotas and stuff like that trying to organize us 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:17.000 like get us on track the weekly video quotas are obscene right now but there's 00:07:15.919 --> 00:07:23.280 reasons for that that we can't necessarily yeah yeah that we'll get more into later but um basically we've 00:07:21.479 --> 00:07:32.520 just we've been really busy we've had a lot to do and I'm sorry I'm H anyway so 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:37.599 producing electricity there are ways to do it that are green you know solar 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:42.080 looks pretty good wind looks pretty good tidle looks promising hopefully at some 00:07:39.840 --> 00:07:45.800 point in the future in a b you 100 years from now or whenever we can figure that 00:07:43.599 --> 00:07:49.960 out um but the problem with those things is that I mean wind even if we could 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:54.039 increase the efficiency dramatically beyond what we have today is not even 00:07:52.400 --> 00:07:58.720 close to what the energy needs of the world are going to be moving forward 00:07:55.639 --> 00:08:00.759 temperamental Reliance solar is still 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:04.919 really not very close it's not economical right now um okay it might 00:08:03.520 --> 00:08:08.319 not be super economical but you could actually power a maed amount of stuff if 00:08:06.520 --> 00:08:12.000 you set it up all properly and there's a lot of work that would need to go into 00:08:09.919 --> 00:08:16.000 that yes so we're we're not I don't mean not close in terms of the efficiency of 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:20.960 the panels that is advancing it just Leaps and Bounds right now but in terms 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:25.280 of the economies of actually rolling it out I mean we all saw that solar 00:08:22.479 --> 00:08:29.960 freaking roadways video which turned out to be just completely a pipe dream 00:08:28.599 --> 00:08:35.039 nothing to do with reality um you know where they were 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:39.120 claiming that these solar roadways would have the same or better traction 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:44.120 characteristics compared to concrete which like wasn't a thing at all um 00:08:42.599 --> 00:08:49.040 there's a lot of other problems there were a lot of hugs of problems with that 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:54.680 whole thing lots of problems um but there's there's there will be a solution 00:08:50.839 --> 00:08:56.959 but if not then at the very least Fusion 00:08:54.680 --> 00:09:05.320 we're hoping is the answer so what was really cool about what they did here 00:09:00.160 --> 00:09:07.920 in the $1.1 billion 19-year project this 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:14.040 is the uh the experimental reactor the wendelstein 7x in Germany what they 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:18.480 managed to do was to initiate the fusion process which requires extremely high 00:09:15.560 --> 00:09:22.000 temperatures around 100 million degrees C like actually extremely high 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:25.120 temperatures um and then at these temperatures the atoms of hydrogen 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:30.320 become energetically excited and form a plasma Cloud now to be in order to be 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:32.839 sustained this is great the atoms of 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:39.480 hydrogen that the plasma Cloud cannot touch the cold walls of the reactor so 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:41.399 it requires 425 tons of super conducting 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:46.519 super cooled magnets you wonder where that cost came from that keep it 00:09:43.959 --> 00:09:49.600 suspended um and then at high ignition temperatures along with an effect called 00:09:47.959 --> 00:09:55.040 Quantum tunneling the hydrogen particles begin to collide and fuse which releases 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:59.600 energy and forms heavy elements now there is a bit of a problem this reactor 00:09:57.200 --> 00:10:03.800 was not designed to produce energy it is an experimental reactor it's designed to 00:10:02.120 --> 00:10:08.720 recreate the conditions found deep within the Sun but if nothing else any 00:10:06.880 --> 00:10:14.720 progress that is being made on fusion power is extraordinarily notable because 00:10:12.640 --> 00:10:18.320 it is much cleaner and much more sustainable than fishing which is what 00:10:16.959 --> 00:10:25.399 we're using now where you break apart the atoms you end up with all this horrifying Atomic waste sounds like you 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:29.519 you like kind of Drew the word fishing a little bit did I cuz you said I don't 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:35.279 know you I might have heard you wrong but I thought you said fishing I have a cold yeah I know but it sounds like it's 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:37.760 much more effective than fishing than fishing it's just not bringing us that 00:10:36.800 --> 00:10:44.639 much energy yeah I was burning those fish all 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:51.760 night and all I got was dinner and it weren't very good cuz I 00:10:47.160 --> 00:10:54.440 burned it oh Dam um 00:10:51.760 --> 00:11:00.000 so I've got people saying burning coal is burning coil is still better um 00:10:58.880 --> 00:11:06.160 burning coil are we talking like coilers 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:08.959 coilers is that the conversation we're having right now cuz I'm actually not 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:13.760 I'm legitimately not sure all right this is really cool 00:11:11.519 --> 00:11:18.399 Microsoft testing underwater data centers want to fire me over to over to 00:11:15.639 --> 00:11:23.279 my screen here soor this is called project natic ntic I don't know how it's 00:11:21.920 --> 00:11:27.240 pronounced anyway it came from a research paper that was written in 2014 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:32.519 by several Microsoft data center employees and if we head over to to the 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:36.040 uh here we go so here's a really here's a really cool look at the Prototype I'm 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:42.839 actually going to drop back over to the dock and fire up the actual site Here 00:11:40.240 --> 00:11:47.639 and Now what I originally envisioned when I read about this when I heard okay 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:52.800 underwater data centers I thought more along the lines of a traditional data 00:11:49.680 --> 00:11:55.040 center so where you've got like a 00:11:52.800 --> 00:11:58.320 building and then you've got towers and stuff yeah and then you've got like 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:00.920 cabinets upon cabinets I thought they were going to dunk things that look like 00:11:59.920 --> 00:12:04.959 shipping containers I was wrong so we were both 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:11.760 wrong we're were both wrong so the objective here is to eliminate 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:14.120 the costs associated with air well with 00:12:11.760 --> 00:12:19.760 cooling with cooling a data center which is 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:22.000 enormous like freaking enormous um so 00:12:19.760 --> 00:12:25.800 what I had kind of thought in in my brain because I'm not a Microsoft 00:12:23.639 --> 00:12:30.000 engineer obviously was they were going to build these underwater you know like 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:33.920 bubble Dome things I didn't really think it would necessarily be a dome but domes 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:37.600 are you know structurally sound reason for it to not be a dome anyway so they 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:42.399 would fill it with cabinets and racks and and servers and then what I was kind 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:45.360 of thinking was okay so where they would 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:50.480 normally water cool a server and then have that go to an air conditioner or 00:12:47.560 --> 00:12:54.800 have that um heat exhaust into the atmosphere they would water cool the 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:58.480 servers pretty much exactly the same way obviously um they would water cool the 00:12:57.199 --> 00:13:02.920 server exactly the same way and then I wasn't sure whether they would use salt water for 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:09.000 the actual Cooling and then they'd have to develop like cooling systems that are 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:10.680 resistant to corrosion obviously um or 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:14.440 if what they would do was they would would they would just take like a 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:18.440 gigantic essentially like a gigantic heat sink and put it next to the data 00:13:16.560 --> 00:13:23.000 center and then run their freshwater cooling through that in order to cool it 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:26.480 in the ocean again also wrong I was going more that direction I thought they 00:13:24.519 --> 00:13:31.519 were going to use basic like not an actual shipping container but shipping 00:13:27.920 --> 00:13:35.120 container size kind of thing and the as 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:37.760 a giant heat that always okay so we're 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:41.720 both wrong that's a crab is um so let's have a look at what it actually looks 00:13:39.079 --> 00:13:47.360 like so here it is next to a person for scale on a boat here and the way that 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:52.279 they're actually planning to do it is the data center would be quite spread 00:13:49.320 --> 00:13:57.399 out so you would have a whack ton of these things deployed all over the place 00:13:55.040 --> 00:14:04.759 and then they would be tethered together by it sounds like Steel cables and fiber 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:08.560 optic links so the actual cooling of the 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:10.720 unit looks like it's being handled here 00:14:08.560 --> 00:14:15.120 but I don't necessarily have all the full details how it works or anything 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:19.279 like that yeah and where like my idea was if you had to do some maintenance on 00:14:17.079 --> 00:14:24.759 the thing you would I don't know take a submersible down there and work on it or 00:14:22.079 --> 00:14:29.440 something or like obviously kind of stupid because that's that's really hard 00:14:26.959 --> 00:14:34.360 whereas with these without taking everything offline you would just pull 00:14:31.800 --> 00:14:37.839 the unit up and work on it now with that said they don't plan to work on them 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:43.600 very often the objective would be to have each of these capsules good for a 00:14:40.360 --> 00:14:45.079 lifetime of about 20 years and then the 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:49.360 plan would be to bring them up about every five years to replace the hardware 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:53.519 similarly to what they would do in the data center now where the yeah because 00:14:51.880 --> 00:14:58.440 they don't necessarily just cycle out Hardware at a data center when it breaks 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:03.360 they cycle out Hardware at a data center when they get new stuff to not only stay 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:06.399 ahead of the curve but also to avoid problems like Hardware being old and 00:15:04.920 --> 00:15:13.680 just breaking because it's old yeah because the cost of having you know a 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:16.360 $100 an hour um you know server like 00:15:13.680 --> 00:15:21.360 like a data center administrator running around swapping out RAM 00:15:18.839 --> 00:15:24.959 modules it's super not worth it they even have tools this is one cool thing 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:29.759 for like supercomputers and stuff where they swap out the CPUs from time to time 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:33.560 they have tools that mass swap CPUs that's cool they have like Grabbers 00:15:32.040 --> 00:15:39.600 that can take like six at a time and like swap them in and swap them out and stuff like it's crazy yeah anyways sorry 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:44.160 random little tidbit moving on um so yeah so there's some there's a 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:49.600 lot of advantages here so there's the cooling Advantage there's the advantage 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:51.519 of being able to get the data center and 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:55.519 like I I feel like calling it a data center is sort of a misnomer they need a 00:15:53.440 --> 00:16:00.160 new term for it cuz it's not it's it's more like a data like Link Center or 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:04.079 something link it's doesn't work though yeah because it's kind of spread out I 00:16:03.160 --> 00:16:10.360 don't know what they want to call it because well and remember too though data array link we are thinking very 00:16:07.839 --> 00:16:16.839 short term Microsoft is thinking 20 years 20 years from 00:16:12.920 --> 00:16:18.040 now that could be a data center yeah but 00:16:16.839 --> 00:16:22.639 would you I don't think you'd call it Center because like centered 00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:26.319 literally like I don't know I guess cuz like the way I'm thinking about it is in 00:16:24.560 --> 00:16:30.399 order to replace sort of the traditional data center they would need like 00:16:28.319 --> 00:16:34.759 hundreds or thousands of those like spread out and and linked together 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:38.040 whereas I mean maybe and and so here's one of the things they're talking about 00:16:35.800 --> 00:16:43.399 one advantage would be the proximity to the users so instead of me linking to a 00:16:41.160 --> 00:16:47.160 data center in California somewhere up here in British Columbia they would have 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:51.880 one of these just right off the coast yeah where you don't have to deal with 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:57.079 all the you know right of way for running uh connections you don't have to 00:16:54.079 --> 00:16:59.160 deal with um the the real estate 00:16:57.079 --> 00:17:06.079 involved in in in building something like that um so so the actual link speed 00:17:01.920 --> 00:17:08.120 would could potentially be better um so 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:12.720 I don't know like would would you call it a center if it was serving like the 00:17:10.360 --> 00:17:15.400 entirety of BC and Alberta or something I would not call it a center you still 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:21.600 wouldn't call it a center because it's not a centrally located thing 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:25.839 M so you're thinking of Center in sort of the literal sense yeah so it should 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:30.200 be like we're talking spokes yeah it has to be at the center of a lot of spokes 00:17:27.280 --> 00:17:33.320 otherwise you lose yeah interesting okay I don't know if that's I I think that's 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:38.000 what it's kind of referencing but I'm not entirely sure let's see what the twitch chat has to say about my theory 00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:44.320 this is another advantage to it too is that combined with some other 00:17:39.919 --> 00:17:48.280 Technologies like here's an idea to uh 00:17:44.320 --> 00:17:50.840 pool cluster get it I love that good job 00:17:48.280 --> 00:17:54.840 who in twitch chat said that let me find him uh so here's another idea that they 00:17:53.640 --> 00:18:00.400 could use like1 something whatever they're talking 00:17:57.320 --> 00:18:02.000 about these like um like these 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:07.240 containers that they could suspend beneath the surface of the ocean and they could combine these with like a 00:18:04.760 --> 00:18:12.120 turbine or a tidal system in order to actually power the things as well or at 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:15.919 least help power them so it could help with power it could help with proximity 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:19.799 to data and it could help with cooling with I guess the one major disadvantage 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:24.640 being that if anything goes wrong with it it is under the freaking 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:28.240 ocean but uh you know I don't know hopefully they thought of that so they 00:18:26.200 --> 00:18:32.799 figure if they Mass produ the capsules they have yeah they probably have ways 00:18:30.360 --> 00:18:36.039 for like pass through so if one goes down they can just skip it temporarily 00:18:34.840 --> 00:18:41.679 and then fix it later on I mean Microsoft's not exactly new to the whole 00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:47.600 data game so hopefully they've got it figured out so while Microsoft is headed 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:52.080 under the ocean Google has its site set on the sky so this was posted by do sjr 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:59.120 on the Forum the original article here is from n Gadget and it says Google 00:18:55.120 --> 00:19:02.039 plans to beam 5G internet from solar 00:18:59.120 --> 00:19:10.120 drones which I read the headline and I was like sorry what solar drones like 00:19:06.120 --> 00:19:11.880 drones on the sun oh what do you mean is 00:19:10.120 --> 00:19:16.400 what do you mean solar Dr solar powered drones yeah solar power drones so the 00:19:13.919 --> 00:19:22.400 picture made it pretty pretty clear uh yeah there we go so these drones would 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:27.440 be I believe it's what is it like optionally optionally 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:34.159 piloted uh yeah yeah so you could be you could 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:36.480 control it remotely or it could just fly 00:19:34.159 --> 00:19:43.080 around on its own they've actually got permission to test them up until is July 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:48.640 July or something like that I will find it in a moment So the plan is for these 00:19:45.880 --> 00:19:54.400 to be perpetually powered by the sun hence the entire top of the wing and I'm 00:19:51.840 --> 00:19:57.200 going to call this elevator but I know the elevator is actually just the little 00:19:55.880 --> 00:20:01.159 flap that goes on the back of it so you'll have to forgive me as as well as 00:19:59.120 --> 00:20:05.799 the rudder here entirety of it is covered in solar solar panels and then 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:12.760 what it would do is it would actually act as sort of um a replacement for the 00:20:10.360 --> 00:20:18.760 traditional cell phone tower uh can you go ahead and switch 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:22.200 back so the issue with cell phones right 00:20:18.760 --> 00:20:24.799 now with with faster data speeds and 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:29.280 with um adding more customers to the network is that the spectrum that is 00:20:27.320 --> 00:20:35.240 traditionally used is pretty darn chalk full I mean we even 00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:41.039 had an incident this week last week last week last week last week no this week uh 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:43.200 well we fixed it this week oh whatever 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:48.480 we had an incident about a week ago where Rogers one of the local cell phone 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:52.280 providers came to our office and they were like yo you guys need to turn off 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:57.440 your cell phone booster and we were like what it's like it's it's good in Canada 00:20:55.600 --> 00:21:01.559 like we we checked we made sure and they're like well you guys have got a 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:06.559 problem where you are causing some kind of attenuation nonsense our anten our 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:12.039 our antenna inside was too close to our antenna outside the building and they 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:17.600 were basically blasting like kind of screeching on part of rogers's band and 00:21:15.159 --> 00:21:20.960 so our our provider we're almost all on Bell here in the building never said 00:21:19.559 --> 00:21:25.279 anything to us about it because it's not their fre spectrum they don't care but 00:21:23.520 --> 00:21:29.400 um but the guy from Rogers was like yeah you guys are going to have to turn that off until you can get the thing fixed 00:21:28.120 --> 00:21:34.880 it's not just like them trying to protect their band like that could make it so that Roger's customers wouldn't be 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:38.919 able to like call emergency services and stuff so I mean we totally didn't 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:45.159 realize um and they're like yeah you know that's that's how it is most of the 00:21:42.120 --> 00:21:46.919 time people don't realize so um you know 00:21:45.159 --> 00:21:49.720 yeah hey just turn it off for now get it fixed and then let us know when you turn 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:54.400 it back on so we can check and see if we have any issues and I was talking to the 00:21:52.000 --> 00:22:00.440 guy and he was telling me like yeah this is this is a like a huge problem for 00:21:57.720 --> 00:22:05.799 them and um so this this is this is a story he told me apparently a a news van 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:12.159 um like a local news van was shooting a story down in the West End of Vancouver 00:22:08.840 --> 00:22:14.960 and they were still using just like some 00:22:12.159 --> 00:22:19.919 some audio packs some audio equipment that was utilizing spectrum that had 00:22:17.799 --> 00:22:25.080 since been purchased by Rogers and and when when these things happen there's 00:22:22.120 --> 00:22:29.440 like a phase out period like you've got 3 years to you know for this industry to 00:22:28.080 --> 00:22:34.159 stop you using it and then you've got another 2 years like grace period and 00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:37.960 then it's illegal um and Rogers paid something like I don't know $4 billion 00:22:36.520 --> 00:22:41.400 or something stupid like that for for the Spectrum so that they could so that 00:22:39.919 --> 00:22:46.720 they could provide better coverage for their customers anyway um so he's like yeah I went out 00:22:45.320 --> 00:22:50.520 to investigate this thing turns out it was this news van and they knocked out 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:56.200 the cellular service for pretty much that entire area oh my God yeah just by 00:22:53.960 --> 00:23:00.360 by broadcasting their their news broadcast on that Spectrum okay 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:05.320 theoretically what can he even do about that though because that's a consumer 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:10.120 using a product that they bought uh no that is a 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:12.400 news like that is a news publication 00:23:10.120 --> 00:23:17.720 like a like a professional publication that would have been that is subject to 00:23:14.840 --> 00:23:23.240 the law for one thing so the law of not interfering with nonp just write a law 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:27.559 and then make it so that people can't have to buy new things like that seems 00:23:24.919 --> 00:23:34.240 really shortsighted yeah oh yeah you can oh yeah happens all the time in fact um 00:23:29.799 --> 00:23:35.720 our our two Sennheiser ew10 G3 packs one 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:40.480 of them is going to go obsolete uh in a while then and they are 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:44.480 not interoperable because uh the regulations were changed and so 00:23:42.360 --> 00:23:47.840 Sennheiser had to revise the skew that they were selling in Canada that is 00:23:46.159 --> 00:23:52.720 super annoying totally a thing definitely 00:23:49.520 --> 00:23:54.480 yeah so anyway that's but but I mean 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:57.840 this underlines my point some people just did some face py thing I know like 00:23:56.159 --> 00:24:01.919 guns and whatnot but it seems weird for consumer Electronics to be able to be 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:05.679 ripped from people's hands mhm but that is that is the way it is and this 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:12.279 underlines my point where what I'm trying to say is that's how crowded the 00:24:08.919 --> 00:24:14.120 available radio spectrum is that we're 00:24:12.279 --> 00:24:19.120 fighting tooth and nail paying billions of dollars for access to use tiny tiny 00:24:17.080 --> 00:24:22.760 slivers of it and ripping the electronics out of people's hands 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:28.679 telling them they have to buy new ones because it is now illegal to use them like that's how crazy it is so coming 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:35.440 back to the solar drones and the 5G internet the plan is to use millimeter 00:24:31.600 --> 00:24:37.440 wave so it is believed that millimeter 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:43.039 waves are capable of transmitting data 40 times faster than LTE with the issue 00:24:40.399 --> 00:24:47.360 being that millimeter waves have pretty much zero penetration power and very 00:24:46.120 --> 00:24:52.080 limited range so millimeter wave is the same 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:57.679 stuff that they use to scan you at the airport just so you guys know so like it 00:24:54.960 --> 00:25:02.000 can barely penetrate like I think it's how much of your skin does it manage to 00:24:59.600 --> 00:25:06.080 not very much like like not very much so so you think about okay yeah what if my 00:25:03.720 --> 00:25:09.679 cell phone ran on millimeter wave all of a sudden let's say the tower is on the 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:15.039 other side of Luke and I go and I lean forward boom my call dropped oops I mean 00:25:13.240 --> 00:25:20.159 obviously just like we've had in the past we're going to have fallbacks to 4G 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:26.919 3G I mean hell I think even Ed shows up every once in a while it does somehow um 00:25:22.919 --> 00:25:28.600 like they're still out there but you you 00:25:26.919 --> 00:25:33.039 OB like you don't want your high spe data going on and off every time you 00:25:30.080 --> 00:25:38.240 like lean toward someone so that's why taking the stuff off the towers and 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:46.320 putting it way up in the air above the consumer could help um could help with 00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:48.679 the growing demands for data in the 00:25:46.320 --> 00:25:53.279 future so I guess that's pretty much all I have to say about that it's really 00:25:51.120 --> 00:25:57.760 cool seems like a cool idea I mean I love the idea of solar uh solar aircraft 00:25:56.039 --> 00:26:03.039 it's becoming more and more a thing it sketches me out like I mean the first 00:26:00.320 --> 00:26:08.240 time one of these crashes and like hits somebody oh a drone yeah it's going to 00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:14.279 be like such a scandalized I don't think has anyone actually just been Smoked by 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:16.000 a random like flya away drone yet I know 00:26:14.279 --> 00:26:18.840 the kid got his eye injured by but like he was like watching his uncle fly it 00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:23.159 like he was like right there he was involved in the action whereas has 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:27.600 anyone had a drone like just kind of take off like you know you get flyaways 00:26:25.080 --> 00:26:31.919 sometimes and like hit someone's grandma yet I'm sure twitch chat is going to is 00:26:29.760 --> 00:26:34.880 going to tell me there was that Olympian the skier or whatever do you hear about 00:26:33.360 --> 00:26:40.320 that it didn't hit him I don't think it but it landed like right behind him it was one of those big industrial 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:43.159 ones I did hear about that I never saw the video though I don't I don't think 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:47.440 it hit him though so I don't think that counts it landed behind him I 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:51.360 believe someone kill himself with his own drone that's not yeah not quite what 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:55.279 I'm talking about I'm talking about like whether it's like an Amazon delivery 00:26:53.120 --> 00:27:00.039 drone or some other kind of commercial drone or like some random drone like 00:26:57.080 --> 00:27:05.640 someone where they had no involvement in the Drone experience other than to be 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.960 hit by it completely out of nowhere um 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:14.559 yeah I mean the first time it happens it's going to be it's going to be a huge deal um I really hope that it's not you 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.960 know one of the 5G internet solar drones 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:21.000 but it's going to raise a lot more eyebrows about projects like this you 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:25.799 know well my my uncle Johnny was killed by a drone and so we shouldn't fly 00:27:23.679 --> 00:27:29.679 drones and there's something to be said for that we shouldn't fly drones that 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:33.480 aren't safe like I don't know you know looking at the picture of that thing I 00:27:31.200 --> 00:27:37.919 don't know what safety mechanisms it contains 00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:42.000 um doesn't look like a whole lot but that pict would Glide but that picture's 00:27:39.679 --> 00:27:46.799 a render so looks like it would Glide as long as it has a parachute that would 00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:49.399 deploy if you CU I mean Glide is great 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:54.840 in theory until it goes really fast until it collides with something else in 00:27:52.600 --> 00:27:59.440 the air and it knocks a wing off um that too I mean the thing could be made of 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:04.080 foam for all I know parachuting not a guarantee and 00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:08.399 something can still run into it yep so I don't know 00:28:05.080 --> 00:28:10.039 man I don't know man speaking of I don't 00:28:08.399 --> 00:28:15.480 know man if you were thinking to yourself gee oh my I don't know how to 00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:17.240 upgrade to Windows 10 that's fine 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:23.840 Microsoft has got you covered you don't need to know you don't need to know at all 00:28:20.399 --> 00:28:26.159 original article here is from howto 00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:29.960 Geek and I think we should open this segment with my story with you telling 00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:34.960 your story that you told me before the show about what happened to you this 00:28:31.399 --> 00:28:38.240 week okay the one with that that um that 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:39.880 dog that walk came into your house what 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:46.679 like took a crap on your bed no okay so was a dog maybe not so 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:50.279 much um I was here a little bit late last night working uh that's a little 00:28:48.600 --> 00:28:57.600 bit irrelevant but basically I wasn't at home and my computer decides to upgrade 00:28:53.320 --> 00:29:01.519 to Windows 10 and uh my girlfriend is at 00:28:57.600 --> 00:29:03.600 my place and she's like um um your 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:07.200 computer's doing stuff and she's like I didn't touch it cuz she's like worried 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:10.279 that I'm going to blame her it's fine I mean hey girlfriend blaming when 00:29:08.679 --> 00:29:13.679 something goes wrong with the computer that is a thing it's a thing so she's 00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:18.039 like okay like I wasn't touching it I was I was away somewhere else doing 00:29:15.320 --> 00:29:22.799 whatever I just saw it's it's now trying to boot up but not working she says it 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:27.440 keeps restarting and it's trying to turn on and it keeps failing and restarting 00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:30.720 and I'm like uh cuz you just roll back to Windows 7 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:36.840 better VR compatibility luckily I don't need it anymore cuz that Alpha thing or 00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:40.559 beta whatever is gone so it's fine um but yeah it tried to upgrade to Windows 00:29:38.360 --> 00:29:45.399 10 all on its little Lonesome good old little independent computer trying to do 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:49.840 its own stuff and it failed and it bricked my Windows OS so I was able to 00:29:48.120 --> 00:29:54.000 very easily recover files cuz I have an external Bay thing sitting right there 00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:57.080 so it's like okay SSD Shunk take whatever I needed off of it which wasn't 00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:01.039 much cuz I don't save much on there put it back in reformat at now I'm 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:05.000 officially running on Windows 10 cuz I didn't Breck 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:08.440 it thanks Microsoft I tweeted out about that and Timmy was like no 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:17.640 problem I was like I understand that's not your department I'm sorry yeah yeah 00:30:15.080 --> 00:30:21.720 so that was uh that was rough thanks for yeah so there's a lot of problems here 00:30:19.760 --> 00:30:28.720 temporarily there's actually like super duper a lot of problems here I mean 00:30:23.360 --> 00:30:32.200 number number one is calling an an 00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:36.320 operating system change a recommended 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:39.120 update is not really and pushing it 00:30:36.320 --> 00:30:44.760 automatically I mean for the techsavvy people like someone like Luke where 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:47.960 learning how to use Windows 10 is is not going to be much of a challenge it was 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:51.799 fine and like recovering my files and reforming my computer in a grand total 00:30:50.120 --> 00:30:56.200 of like a couple hours wasn't really a big deal but like Grandma who like 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.559 barely knows how to use her computer as it is Geek Squad is going to make a lot 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:03.559 of money yeah Geek Squad is going to be happy about this one I'll tell you that 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:11.840 much that is a very good point yeah so problem number two with doing a a a 00:31:06.840 --> 00:31:13.519 system upgrade in this way is that if 00:31:11.840 --> 00:31:17.039 you manage to get into the operating system and are able to access the roll 00:31:15.360 --> 00:31:24.360 back feature I believe the roll back feature does still exist I could not 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:28.279 recover however there's a reason that 00:31:24.360 --> 00:31:31.519 any update firmware update for a mouse 00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:34.799 or uh or or a driver update for whatever 00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:37.000 or a software update will always say 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:41.600 okay make sure that there's not going to be a sudden power loss in the middle of 00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:45.440 this process um you know hey make sure that you back up any important Data 00:31:43.159 --> 00:31:51.120 before we do this I mean I have seen some updates that have super nothing to 00:31:47.760 --> 00:31:52.840 do with my data recommend backing up my 00:31:51.120 --> 00:31:59.320 data before I proceed because that's just that's just common sense that's 00:31:56.440 --> 00:32:03.639 covering your butt as a software maker to say hey back up your data we're not 00:32:01.919 --> 00:32:09.039 responsible for any data loss that may occur during this process for Microsoft 00:32:07.120 --> 00:32:15.320 to completely forgo that due diligence and potentially 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:20.760 cause people to spend money at Geek Squad 00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:23.080 or lose data something that is so 00:32:20.760 --> 00:32:26.639 difficult to attach a value to one quick second effective monkey in the chat said 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:30.960 your GF probably tried turning off the computer in the middle no she didn't 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:35.159 just putting that out there I've seen the Windows 10 upgrade fail I have 00:32:32.840 --> 00:32:39.360 literally sat and watched it fail so it can happen I knew it wouldn't have 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:41.639 worked because I had tried it already and was like okay there's something 00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:48.120 wrong with my system it's not working for Windows 10 whatever I just won't upgrade that's fine um and I had to do 00:32:46.399 --> 00:32:52.200 this like crazy recovery process I tried doing doing it again this time and it 00:32:49.919 --> 00:32:57.600 didn't work uh it wasn't her fault she didn't do anything wrong sorry continue 00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:04.440 so I mean I think Microsoft is opening the elves up to a very significant class 00:33:01.080 --> 00:33:07.519 action here you know anyone who lost you 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:09.799 know precious photos of their cat or 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:15.039 whatever babies or babies that's going to be the first big one that comes out I 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:17.760 lost photos of my uh deceased family 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:22.600 member or like babies or graduation stuff like some form of super important 00:33:20.360 --> 00:33:28.360 can't do it again will happen and then that will be very bad and and like you 00:33:25.760 --> 00:33:31.880 know yeah wow and this just seems crazy to me and you 00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:37.200 know what's even crazier is like they did this by accident before and then 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:41.840 rolled it back this time purpose it's on purpose and they are apparently even 00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:48.480 doing Windows 10 upgrade notifications on business PCS now which is like I mean 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:54.880 there's so much more to a business infrastructure than just Windows and and 00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:57.399 office like there's a lot of stuff that 00:33:54.880 --> 00:34:00.919 straight up has quirks and compatibility issues going from one version of Windows 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:06.639 to another even though look at like Premier and stuff 7 to 8 to 8.1 to 10 00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:11.919 has been relatively seamless you know when you compare it to XP to Vista for 00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:15.440 example um there are still issues like we've had premere issues that was a 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:22.679 great example where the new Premiere update was what was it bricked on 8.1 00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:24.079 but not on seven my Oculus something 00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.560 like that yeah yeah what was the issue with the Oculus it just I just that some 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:32.720 people were able to get it work with like certain USB it was USB drivers or 00:34:30.520 --> 00:34:37.879 something certain USB drivers for certain types of USB 3.0 or 2.0 ports in 00:34:35.720 --> 00:34:42.520 combination with whatever might work on certain Windows 10 machines or you can 00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:45.720 go to Windows 7 and it's fine we got a lot of people talking 00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:49.919 about their Windows 10 upgrade experiences so spoko in the in the chat 00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:53.679 says Windows 10 upgrade failed with no clear error until I set my boot order to 00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:58.359 boot directly from the Windows SSD instead of grub on another SSD by 00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:02.960 complete trial and error and this is the kind of stuff that again like we're 00:34:59.640 --> 00:35:06.880 saying is no big deal for the techsavvy 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:11.119 you know Linux users out 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:12.560 there but for Grandma oh man Grandma 00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:18.720 probably won't have grub installed but like the point Remains the point remains 00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:21.520 when I first got the Razer Blade 14 my 00:35:18.720 --> 00:35:26.760 the first unit that I got um I like set everything up created my 00:35:24.640 --> 00:35:31.040 user account and I was like oh I wonder if I can get the Windows 10 on here woo 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:35.000 there it is Boom did it failed I had to factory restore and I 00:35:33.359 --> 00:35:40.320 had to try it again and it worked there you go yeah like my fully updated 00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:43.359 Windows 7 that I had been using that was the one that failed the update and 00:35:41.720 --> 00:35:47.960 basically bricked its own operating system when I reinstalled Windows with 00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:52.680 one of my oldest Windows 7 isos because it had to fit on a 4 gig USB um with 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.960 like no updates I manually went to the Microsoft get Windows 10 website did it 00:35:54.680 --> 00:36:00.560 immediately off the bat and it worked perfectly this is great someone says um 00:35:58.640 --> 00:36:04.680 Microsoft flight simulator 10 does not work on Windows 10 cently I think I have 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:09.240 actually heard that I don't remember what the issue was 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:13.400 related to but U but there you go that's a perfect example it's Microsoft's own 00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:17.520 software I mean I know it's old oh yeah but the point is like you know if I've 00:36:15.240 --> 00:36:21.480 got you know my my flight Sim rig in a in a closet somewhere you know with the 00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:26.319 everything kind of tucked out of the way I really don't want it to just automatically update itself and I and I 00:36:23.839 --> 00:36:30.520 don't touch it for two weeks or two months let's say you know maybe don't 00:36:27.640 --> 00:36:36.760 use it all the time and you come back and what yeah so what now I have to roll 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:41.599 back if that works and or reformat or like are you freaking kidding 00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:48.400 me all right what else we got here it's funny too because like a couple days 00:36:45.640 --> 00:36:52.400 before last night when this all happened I was like I should probably look into 00:36:50.319 --> 00:36:54.839 like downloading some tool that blocks the I wasn't even thinking he was going 00:36:53.680 --> 00:36:59.640 to do it automatically but the little Annoying popup that's like you should get Windows 10 I was like I should just 00:36:58.079 --> 00:37:04.359 you know get some tool that blocks that from happening cuz that's a little Annoying and like I might as well do 00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.720 that so I was like yeah maybe this weekend I'll spend some time and like 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:12.280 make sure I can block Windows 10 updates and then it's just like boom wrecked 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:17.200 okay maybe you saw that coming it's like it was already annoying it was already like move please move please move please 00:37:15.640 --> 00:37:24.920 move please and then it's like just go go can you be slightly less 00:37:21.160 --> 00:37:28.520 pushy Windows um actually there's one 00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:30.720 more there's one more funny thing um 00:37:28.520 --> 00:37:34.280 apparently and I haven't actually seen the original statement here so this is 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:40.599 this is from my notes in the doc so you have to forgive me apparently 00:37:36.839 --> 00:37:42.480 Microsoft's response in a blog post says 00:37:40.599 --> 00:37:48.200 that if you are on a metered connection on Windows 7 or 8.1 and you don't want 00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:54.920 this download to occur then you can just turn off automatic updates just like uh 00:37:52.240 --> 00:37:59.119 what so I'm just supposed to not get security patches because I don't want 00:37:57.640 --> 00:38:05.079 upgrade my operating system like I get it you guys are trying 00:38:02.040 --> 00:38:07.359 to Super hardcore aggressively EOL 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:12.960 Windows 10 or Windows 7 and Windows 8 and 8.1 like you don't want to create 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:15.359 another XP situation where they I think 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:19.920 I believe they still have active contracts with what was it the US Navy 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:26.359 or something yeah to support Windows XP because like ships run on it but so I 00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:32.599 get it you're trying to EOL those operating systems you're trying to get everyone onto Windows 10 but you have to 00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:36.880 understand that even as Windows 10 evolves you know maybe in the same way 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:42.040 that OS 10 has was that a coincidence I wonder um where where it gets all these 00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.960 different cats or mountains or whatever um you are still going to have to 00:38:44.359 --> 00:38:49.400 support this stuff because even these small incremental updates are going to 00:38:47.720 --> 00:38:55.960 break compatibility I mean there's all sorts of stuff that works in you know 00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:57.760 Bengal but doesn't work in house cab all 00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:02.160 that all that Microsoft checks for is driver stuff they don't check for 00:39:00.240 --> 00:39:05.720 software stuff and there it's so much deeper than that I mean it really is I 00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:10.960 mean I will give them Kudos Windows update does a way better 00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:15.079 job of drivers than it used to on Windows 10 it's like actually really 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:19.760 good like even like those weird ulx 10 gig Nicks you boot into the operating 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:24.960 system boom drivers installed for it no big deal the setup time on Windows 10 is 00:39:21.640 --> 00:39:28.160 very fast yeah so I will give them that 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:30.800 but they are still nowhere 00:39:28.160 --> 00:39:35.560 on application compatibility they basically haven't touched it and I get 00:39:32.520 --> 00:39:37.720 it like there are there are more that's 00:39:35.560 --> 00:39:42.480 crazy Windows applications then you could count if you started counting 00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:44.079 today 1 2 3 four five six like you 00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:51.480 couldn't count that high sorry not in your lifetime um so I get it but it 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:55.119 means you can't do stuff like this yes 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:58.359 it's you don't have an App Store where 00:39:55.119 --> 00:40:00.599 developers are required to maintain 00:39:58.359 --> 00:40:04.160 their own database of compatibility in a way that the store understands and can 00:40:02.319 --> 00:40:09.440 interpret for the user like like the setup time is fast 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:14.520 like uh last night when it screwed up I was like well I have to reset up 00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:17.920 everything for stream tomorrow um and 00:40:14.520 --> 00:40:20.000 like it's basically there now so I got 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:25.119 home at like 9 and I was able to do that a reasonable time before I went to bed 00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:27.319 that's pretty good but I definitely 00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:31.079 should not have had to do that all right all right let's get into our next thing 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:36.880 that no one should have had to do this was posted by oh uh right 00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:41.760 um uh okay no one should have had to look at an ugly website 00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:45.680 Squarespace so if you're not familiar with Squarespace at all may I suggest 00:40:44.319 --> 00:40:50.079 that you go back and watch some of our awesome coverage of CES yeah hey there 00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:53.880 was a lot of cool stuff at the show this year there was and all of it was brought 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:57.720 to you by Squarespace so at the end of literally 00:40:56.040 --> 00:41:02.319 every single one of those those videos there's a whole rundown of like how it 00:40:59.839 --> 00:41:06.079 works yep I I got to the point where like throughout the day I would try to 00:41:04.160 --> 00:41:09.960 cover all the points but each video didn't necessarily contain every point 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:15.280 but we'll run through all the points of why Squarespace is awesome now first up 00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:21.119 they worked with Jeff Bridges second up it's not wrong they 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:30.040 had a Super Bowl commercial also not wrong third their logo is really cool 00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:32.200 it's like it's like an s and it's like 00:41:30.040 --> 00:41:38.400 kind of squiggly I think it's a great logo fourth they're Bros yeah good 00:41:35.839 --> 00:41:42.040 people over there we like Squarespace five I guess the thing that they 00:41:40.160 --> 00:41:45.560 actually do so Squarespace allows you to build your own beautiful website using 00:41:43.680 --> 00:41:48.680 one of their great templates that has all kinds of features so whether you 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:54.839 want to use their logo designer to create a cool logo or you want to uh 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:56.960 create a store where people can buy like 00:41:54.839 --> 00:42:01.280 knickknacks that you make or or whatever else so you want to create a tools to 00:41:58.560 --> 00:42:04.640 avoid updating Windows 10 yeah yeah say for example you created a website about 00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:08.359 that boom you could do it on Squarespace and their PL start at just $8 a month 00:42:07.040 --> 00:42:12.240 all the management of your site is through the cloud you don't have to like 00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:17.319 create a web server and run that in your closet or any of that complicated 00:42:14.200 --> 00:42:19.720 nonsense and it is what was I going to 00:42:17.319 --> 00:42:24.880 say right it's scalable and you get a free domain if you sign up for an entire 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.119 year so if all that sounds pretty good and you've been thinking to yourself gee 00:42:26.520 --> 00:42:33.440 I could use an affordable way to run my own website even if it's just for like I 00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:36.000 don't know the minor league soccer team that you run you just want like a cool 00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:41.920 little website where you have some pictures you can recruit some new people to join the team whatever kind of site 00:42:39.839 --> 00:42:45.280 you want to make Squarespace makes it easy and if you want to check it out all 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:50.920 you got to do is go to squarespace.com and use offer code Linus and you can save 10% on building your beautiful 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:54.599 website today they've got a twoe free trial by the way so you don't have to 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:58.079 commit right up front no credit card required no credit card required on the 00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:04.440 two we free trial speaking of no credit card required have you ever been a small 00:43:01.520 --> 00:43:08.359 business owner and had someone come to you and be like yeah you know I would 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:14.040 have Lov to pay that bill but I never saw it or uh Hey do you accept credit 00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.240 card and you're all like no I don't 00:43:14.040 --> 00:43:20.680 freshbooks is the accounting solution for you also cloud-based but in a very 00:43:19.160 --> 00:43:25.000 different sort of way so you can use your phone to do things like track how 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:28.119 many hours you're spending on a project you can track the expenses yeah you can 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:32.960 just take pictures of your receipts and it handles everything else handles all 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.319 that stuff uh you can generate invoices you can generate invoices you can send 00:43:34.520 --> 00:43:40.720 them to the client you can see that the client has R it you can receive deposits 00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:44.040 you can receive deposits and final payments through the app but or I 00:43:42.680 --> 00:43:49.280 shouldn't call an app but through the service Buy credit card and if you ever 00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:55.119 have any questions and you want to talk to their support you call them and you 00:43:51.240 --> 00:43:59.440 will speak to a real human no phone tree 00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:01.520 no escalating to a level two technician 00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:08.079 or anything like that no you know enter your number and record a brief 00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:12.760 message hi is this line is Sebastian if 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:16.240 it is press one if it isn't please hold 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:20.920 until lus Sebastian is on the phone and 00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:22.559 press what come on come on so anyway you 00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:28.280 will talk to a real person and all you got to do is go to freshbooks.com and 00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.240 get a free trial to day and they also 00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:33.680 just got a Mobile card reader so you can even take credit card payments when you 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.200 are on the go so I don't know you have a traveling pedicure service or maybe a 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:43.079 more likely scenario would be a locksmith for example I mean there's so many small 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:47.160 businesses and they can benefit from fresh books if you want to spend more 00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:51.640 time running your business and less time screwing around with accounting nonsense 00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:56.280 especially if you are not a numbers person so we've actually got something 00:44:54.000 --> 00:45:03.400 else we can move on to today that is different from what we normally do this 00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:05.720 is our build of the what is it moment 00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:12.839 moment we just call it moment because like week died super hard and then month 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:16.520 like it became like half year basically 00:45:12.839 --> 00:45:18.000 so uh I guess it's moment now that was a 00:45:16.520 --> 00:45:24.119 probably Whaler so we got a featured build for you guys do you want to drop us out of the out of the frame there 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:26.240 let's go ahead so um the voters pick and 00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:30.520 this one was made project ravage by clown face 1511 so let's go ahead and 00:45:29.359 --> 00:45:36.400 walk through I haven't actually looked at this yet but it has some ba specs 00:45:33.640 --> 00:45:40.599 what's up I didn't want to delete it oh so you just put yourself well that's as 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:43.680 far out as the frame I can f you you us no no no I don't want to do it anymore 00:45:41.839 --> 00:45:46.240 you're in the corner I don't want you're I don't want to do it anymore I'm not 00:45:45.040 --> 00:45:52.760 doing it I'm just going to control the slideshow you do it okay but you you have to stay the person on screen there 00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:59.680 you go there's an Intel Core i7 5960x and a Seuss x99 Deluxe 3.1 2 GB 00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:02.880 reference 980 TI an EVGA Supernova P2 00:45:59.680 --> 00:46:07.200 1200 W power supply uh 16 gigs of gskill 00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:09.000 rip Jaws memory okay no more of that um 00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:15.040 apparently it is a awesome looking desk computer look at that water cooling arrangement in the top holy smokes I 00:46:12.680 --> 00:46:20.559 love super clean runs DIY like crazy like look at this that's 00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:24.319 pretty sick I'm loving the way this is set up like you got no interference from 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:30.480 the legs it's got really good support right here it looks it looks so strong 00:46:27.520 --> 00:46:35.520 it looks really strong but not in like it doesn't look like shop Furniture no 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:39.280 no no no no it looks like like the you know the modern like industrial design 00:46:37.200 --> 00:46:43.240 style furniture stuff yeah yeah I like it damn no to a fans I was just going to 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:51.880 say lius is going to like the fans too whoa that is some intricate Hardline 00:46:48.160 --> 00:46:55.000 work right there that is not easy what 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:59.240 is going on right there that looks 00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:03.480 really clean that is gorgeous opt yeah 00:46:59.240 --> 00:47:05.319 yeah fan freaking tastic wow oh and look 00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:08.520 at that desk surface oh I like how it only actually Peaks through in that one 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:13.480 part that actually looks really cool that is absolutely sick I love how 00:47:11.319 --> 00:47:18.559 monstrous that computer is love the finished desk shot here that monitor and 00:47:16.319 --> 00:47:24.000 the and the trophies the trophies the boxes from the hardware power supply and 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:26.040 motherboard boxes very very nice wow 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:30.280 gorgeous machine all right let's move on to our second one so this that was the 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:35.520 Community Choice and this one is the staff Choice from the LT Forum staff 00:47:33.319 --> 00:47:39.920 this prey.com thing has gotten a lot better since the first time we tried to 00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:46.680 use it cuz that was a disaster yep all right so this 00:47:41.319 --> 00:47:48.319 is by Stefan 1024 the silent Cube so a 00:47:46.680 --> 00:47:53.480 little bit more down to earth Hardware but still really really good yeah just 00:47:51.359 --> 00:47:59.040 wait till you see it wow I'm loving that copper block is 00:47:56.640 --> 00:48:05.040 that is that is that homemade pretty sure wow I haven't actually read the 00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:09.400 build log so sorry I'm not entirely sure that that looks it looks very custom to 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:15.599 me and like do you see there's the the cube so wait go go yeah you can see it 00:48:12.040 --> 00:48:18.720 there it's open a bit okay forward oh 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:21.079 gosh darn it okay here we go there you 00:48:18.720 --> 00:48:27.079 go wow damn heat sinks 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:28.680 though look at that 00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:32.160 so that's actually it's kind of funny that that came that's how I thought the 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:38.240 Microsoft underwater servers were going to work just having the walls be giant 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:43.000 heat SN fins yeah that's interesting but 00:48:38.240 --> 00:48:45.960 nope very interesting look how big it is 00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:50.559 I love it the oh look at that thermal thermal camera shot even this is a 00:48:48.520 --> 00:48:55.359 serious machine here man yeah that's actually super cool that is 00:48:53.040 --> 00:49:02.920 fantastic I mean the lengths that some people will go to to silence their 00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:06.200 computers although I believe that my 00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:08.359 project while not as cool as this one no 00:49:06.200 --> 00:49:14.480 that's pretty amazing is actually a little bit crazier if not on the same 00:49:11.720 --> 00:49:19.000 level where I go as far as to remove the computer from the room oh just like like 00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:23.799 I I don't mean crazy like in terms of the skill involved or anything I mean 00:49:20.520 --> 00:49:26.960 crazy in terms of like how mental I must 00:49:23.799 --> 00:49:28.680 be to care that much about about a 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:32.440 little bit of computer hum where I'm going to be like nope nope the computer 00:49:30.680 --> 00:49:37.640 may not be in the same room as me anymore yeah it it will it must be 00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:43.760 removed it will no longer be in the room with me I maintain that there's there's 00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:48.040 acceptable amounts of computer home nope 00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:48.040 that's okay that you think that's 00:49:48.440 --> 00:49:53.520 fine I'm glad you approved thank you but 00:49:51.720 --> 00:49:58.280 I just like it's I just don't mind and it has to be like a certain tone like if 00:49:56.119 --> 00:50:02.000 I can hear the airf flow that's fine if I can literally hear the fan that's 00:50:00.040 --> 00:50:06.839 maybe not good rattle is the worst yes yeah I don't like rattle but if it's 00:50:03.839 --> 00:50:08.359 like it's probably fine all right let's 00:50:06.839 --> 00:50:16.880 get a let's get a straw let's get a straw pull up computer 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:18.119 noise does it matter yes no turn up okay 00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:26.240 well that's not as simple as it cuz I don't like computer noise in 00:50:21.839 --> 00:50:27.920 general a little like acceptable ah but 00:50:26.240 --> 00:50:32.079 acceptable Mount is into let's say somewhat somewhat yeah okay so somewhat 00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:35.880 for like if you can hear the air flowing stuff but there's no Rattle and whatnot 00:50:33.720 --> 00:50:39.200 yeah okay so there we go guys we want to we want to hear from you guys let's hit 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.960 that straw pole all right let's see these results do you want to screen 00:50:40.359 --> 00:50:46.599 share me and do you want to uh fire up our next topic while we uh while these 00:50:44.720 --> 00:50:50.920 results come in we could do one of our rapid fires or 00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:56.880 something like oh no let's do the dad the dad so this is bananas this was 00:50:54.240 --> 00:51:02.319 posted by aluminum Tech on the Forum about a dad who spent a night in jail 00:50:59.839 --> 00:51:09.480 after confiscating his daughter's iPhone now to be 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:12.599 clear the headline is somewhat 00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:16.960 sensationalist there is more to this the 00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:20.319 dad was not put in jail 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:23.599 for confiscating his daughter's iPhone 00:51:20.319 --> 00:51:25.880 for an hour that he gave her it is a 00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:32.599 little more complicated than that so the iPhone was actually provided by his by 00:51:28.720 --> 00:51:35.359 the daughter's mother his ex-wife and he 00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:41.200 took it and kept it for a long period of time so it was 00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:45.000 actually the ex-wife is arguing her 00:51:41.200 --> 00:51:47.400 property and that him taking it was T 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:55.839 amount to stealing so this is a whole other level 00:51:52.880 --> 00:52:00.000 of family crazy yeah that I'm glad that I don't have to be involved in yeah so 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:05.680 it looks like pretty much everyone agrees with you and pretty much no one agrees with me so I'm pretty much done 00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:08.760 with that straw pull um no there's a fair amount of people that agree with 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:12.000 you uh hold on let's uh so hold on I want to bring this up so the original 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:16.079 article here that we um that was posted on the Forum was from Mashable so 00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:19.440 there's a picture of a phone there's other than that it's a whole lot of text 00:52:17.319 --> 00:52:22.720 you want to fire us back to uh back to full screen there we go if I had a midi 00:52:21.160 --> 00:52:27.319 controller this would be sick so basically he confiscated his daughter's 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:33.280 cell phone as a punish M for sending quote unquote inappropriate text back in 00:52:30.720 --> 00:52:37.680 2013 he was found guilt not guilty on Tuesday by the way so so this is this is 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:43.440 this is why we're hearing about it now was that the the Judgment just came 00:52:39.839 --> 00:52:45.200 through um and is going to file a 00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:48.839 complaint for civil rights violation because his take on the whole thing is 00:52:47.200 --> 00:52:53.000 that it was I don't remember what word he used but basically it was 00:52:50.799 --> 00:52:57.559 ridiculous and he he said his 12-year-old daughter was trying to 00:52:54.640 --> 00:53:02.960 organize an attack on another minor so he confiscated the phone and I can think 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:07.960 of a hundred reasons like I've got kids I can think of a hundred reasons why I 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:11.240 would confiscate their phone yeah and to 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:12.520 not be allowed to do that as a parental 00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:18.200 discipline measure even if the phone was provided 00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:22.680 and the bill was paid or whatever by or even if the phone was provided by 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:27.079 whoever by whoever it was too bad yeah you're a minor you're 00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:31.160 12 a phone is a privilege when you're 12 00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:36.400 and if you're using it for something that is deemed inappropriate as a parent 00:53:34.520 --> 00:53:40.880 you don't get to have that anymore too freaking bad a phone is not an inali 00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:46.520 right it's not food it's not shelter it's not water it's not 00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:48.799 sleep um so anyway a few hours he didn't 00:53:46.520 --> 00:53:53.040 sell it he didn't do anything with it he just yeah so a few hours after he 00:53:51.359 --> 00:53:56.920 grabbed the phone the police showed up so the mother who owned the phone said you can't take someone's property 00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:01.200 regardless if you're a parent or not so I can already tell exactly what she 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:06.839 sounded like when she was saying that like I can picture that idiot in my head 00:54:04.520 --> 00:54:12.280 right now U with that said you know we don't know what his history with her is 00:54:10.319 --> 00:54:17.200 and we don't know you know why she would have taken that particular stance I'm 00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:23.559 not judging anyone here I'm just saying I can imagine what that person Probably 00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:25.760 sounds like the father turned down a 00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:28.760 plea deal which would have involved turning over the phone and spent one 00:54:27.240 --> 00:54:34.359 night in jail because he refused to give it back so that's a fun relationship says 00:54:32.520 --> 00:54:38.119 that the dispute has rendered any future relationship with his daughter and her 00:54:36.200 --> 00:54:44.559 mother impossible holy 00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:51.920 crap people are mad people are fre it's not just in 00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:51.920 twitch chat people are 00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:59.160 mad I mean here's a really crazy thing when he refused to take the deal um the 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:05.000 Dallas County District Attorney's Office UPS the charges to Class B misdemeanor 00:55:01.640 --> 00:55:08.559 which in Texas could be a $2,000 fine 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:10.880 and up to 6 months in jail oh my God I 00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:13.640 mean you have got to be freaking kidding me here you can change it if you don't 00:55:12.799 --> 00:55:20.400 take a plea that seems kind of I'm not actually 00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:22.440 sure I mean what we need John's help 00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:26.760 what yeah we need Jon's help like what charge you are trying to apply to 00:55:25.200 --> 00:55:30.400 someone I mean when it's a crime that is so 00:55:28.799 --> 00:55:36.359 difficult to classify taking a phone as a parent 00:55:33.520 --> 00:55:41.160 temporarily but that isn't yours because it belongs to the other parent who you 00:55:38.359 --> 00:55:46.920 are no longer sharing finances with like but okay even if it was the 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:52.079 kids as a parent wouldn't you be allowed to take 00:55:48.319 --> 00:55:54.920 it oh wow hold on a second like if the 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:58.480 kid Works wow hold on yeah okay okay we we need to do straw pull straw pull here 00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:02.839 let me let me create the STW we just get John would just then we then we'll 00:55:59.720 --> 00:56:09.039 discuss okay sure you need to make a new 00:56:02.839 --> 00:56:10.960 that's view okay so 12 year old's phone 00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:15.000 could a 12-year-old have a okay inappropriate use like let's say they 00:56:12.680 --> 00:56:19.400 were using it to organ let's say that what he said is true they are clearly 00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:25.160 using it to organize an attack on another minor or something so there is a 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:27.760 there is a safety reason yeah okay so 00:56:25.160 --> 00:56:34.720 12-year-old's phone inap rate use okay for parent to 00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:37.280 confiscate if it is their property yes 00:56:34.720 --> 00:56:42.599 no wow this is 00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:47.599 complicated wow this is complicated I would probably vote for that one I still 00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:48.799 think yeah I don't know because I think 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:56.760 we can agree that unless there is okay H so 00:56:53.920 --> 00:57:00.359 organize an attack like let's say there okay let's call it bullying let's say 00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:05.400 that you know it's something where it's clearly wrong but there isn't 00:57:02.359 --> 00:57:07.200 necessarily a law in place like there is 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:11.799 hey we're well I mean okay is there a law in place that you can't pie someone 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:13.960 at school that's assault is it assault yeah okay let's let's come up with 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:19.680 something let's come up with something that's mean but not illegal you can call someone 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:23.680 names or is that verbal assault I mean is there a charge threatening cuz 00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:27.559 threatening there's a charge for I think well I don't know if you call someone 00:57:25.319 --> 00:57:33.920 Dumbo ears or something like it's not a threat you're not 00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:35.400 threatening to take their ears yeah so 00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:39.680 let's say let's say they're just let's say they're just coordinating being mean 00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:42.960 okay mean in some way that is we're not going to try and figure out what's legal 00:57:41.319 --> 00:57:47.960 some way that's legal yeah mean in some way that's legal okay slander [ __ ] 00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:54.760 there's a law against like everything yeah I know so don't worry about it it's mean 00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:59.480 in some way that is legal but the 12-year-old owns the phone 00:57:58.160 --> 00:58:03.880 okay so I think we can all agree that if you're an adult and you're talking about 00:58:01.720 --> 00:58:08.079 like pulling a prank on your friends or being mean to them or something unless 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:12.520 you're doing something illegal no one has the right to take your stuff from 00:58:10.200 --> 00:58:17.680 you that would be theft unless the police with a 00:58:15.160 --> 00:58:21.839 warrant can take it from you cuz this is this is interesting too but or probable 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:26.720 probable cause or whatever cannot teachers can hold things can't they 00:58:24.720 --> 00:58:31.039 because we're talking about minors yeah so then wouldn't your parents be 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:34.079 able to almost no matter what it is right because the teacher can the 00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:39.319 teacher can take it but then that's created issues as well yeah because the 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:43.240 asthma inhaler or whatever yeah teachers confiscating things logical and then the 00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:48.680 phone because of emergencies has been has been an issue but the idea that 00:58:45.720 --> 00:58:53.640 they're able to do it has that actually been stopped uh some are saying uh as a 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:56.720 teacher no they cannot teachers have no right to take stuff apparently oh so 00:58:55.440 --> 00:59:01.760 there you go I it's something that definitely happened when we were in school and it still happens yeah 00:58:59.680 --> 00:59:06.200 definitely still happens totally a thing maybe that's a Canadian thing but 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:09.559 apparently they they cannot do it um they cannot do it NE and this is going 00:59:08.160 --> 00:59:14.440 to vary from place to place anyway let's let's go to our straw pole results I'm 00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:19.039 going to go with I'm going to go with yes um I'm going to agree with with most 00:59:17.240 --> 00:59:23.640 people here if it belongs to them they're using it for something in 00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:25.480 appropriate too bad and like that you're 00:59:23.640 --> 00:59:30.039 just GNA have to have the conversation where what if they're not using it for 00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:32.839 something inappropriate ah so if they do something else they don't eat their 00:59:31.640 --> 00:59:38.480 dinner and you're like I'm going to take your phone if you don't eat your dinner yeah not not to call out my my parents 00:59:37.240 --> 00:59:44.480 my parents are wonderful I love my parents but like if I did 00:59:41.079 --> 00:59:46.760 something wrong or if I was a little a 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:52.200 little jerk for whatever reason no Nintendo yeah or they'd like take my my 00:59:49.720 --> 00:59:55.400 speakers away I had this speaker system in my room or like you can't use your 00:59:54.319 --> 01:00:00.480 you can't use your Nintendo you can't use your Xbox you can't game on the computer you can't do whatever it is you 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:04.319 can't do something you can't use this we are taking this like there is one point 01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:07.960 in time where I had to Forfeit my radio or whatever my mom held it in her room 01:00:06.520 --> 01:00:13.680 and took it it wasn't because I was using the radio it was because of something else so it wasn't because of 01:00:11.039 --> 01:00:17.799 inappropriate use of the radio so it actually had nothing to do with the 01:00:15.359 --> 01:00:21.200 radio so we've got someone bringing up that the I personally think that's okay 01:00:19.640 --> 01:00:27.359 the ex-wife did it only because she doesn't like him and wants to make his life difficult we know that but we were 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:32.920 we're what we're just discussing is the is the not necessarily even the legality 01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:36.400 but the the right like like what is your 01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:39.440 what what what makes something theft 01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:42.599 yeah so if you were to buy your game 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:45.880 console yourself is it theft if your 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:47.240 parents tell you if they take it well 01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:52.920 what they could do is they could say you're not allowed to use it you may not 01:00:49.359 --> 01:00:52.920 use our electricity to power 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:57.920 that but can they take it 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:05.839 away I don't know everything is gray 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:08.079 right now yeah it is we need John yeah 01:01:05.839 --> 01:01:10.839 John John John should I just get John uh no it's okay I think we should probably 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:15.359 move on to the next topic yeah he's probably gone for the day anyway yeah um 01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:22.520 someone said it's called parenting that's kind of my thing on it like my my parents Tak away my speaker cuz I was a 01:01:18.680 --> 01:01:25.400 little jerkhole is like is super okay 01:01:22.520 --> 01:01:32.680 fine and made him the stunning man that he pointed out to me that he is um today 01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:35.960 no seriously though like it's I yeah if 01:01:32.680 --> 01:01:38.359 you if you how like you can't hit them 01:01:35.960 --> 01:01:43.280 anymore yeah you can't take their stuff away I don't know that spanking is 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:47.720 illegal oh yeah I'm pretty sure Corporal P punishment is actually still legal 01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:52.760 it's just Society has decided that you can't do that and I personally don't 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:55.279 believe that's effective anyway um I 01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:58.559 mean no cuz like my not bring it my parents again they'd break like a spoon 01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:02.960 or a hairbrush or something on us my brother and I would just like laugh and be like we 01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:12.160 win so like maybe not without getting too deep 01:02:10.359 --> 01:02:20.599 into this I do actually think that there's a time 01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:23.559 and a place I was spanked once one time 01:02:20.599 --> 01:02:29.160 growing up and it was done at a very young age and I remember it to this day 01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:33.880 now if it had happened all the time I think it's kind of like 01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:37.640 swearing if someone who never swears 01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:39.920 swears very impactful you go what yeah 01:02:37.640 --> 01:02:45.920 they've made their point whatever just happened was really painful or really 01:02:43.359 --> 01:02:48.960 upsetting or whatever the case may be but someone who swears all the time you 01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:56.839 don't even notice it starts to just become part of the Casual flow of conversation so I got spanked for 01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:59.279 pulling a wicked tantrum in Safeway 01:02:56.839 --> 01:03:04.920 because I wasn't allowed to have a donut like I'm talking the actual like kicking 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:11.279 like like scooting myself around on my back yelling on the floor in the middle 01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:13.480 of the grocery store T ter so my 01:03:11.279 --> 01:03:18.480 dad dropped the groceries put them down in the store 01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:24.440 physically picked me up took me to the car 01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:29.160 and K flop yep gave me the old don't do 01:03:24.440 --> 01:03:33.920 that and I remember that now to my 01:03:29.160 --> 01:03:36.000 mom I believe she only spanked one of my 01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:43.480 siblings once one of my other siblings once like like it it was not a thing in 01:03:38.359 --> 01:03:47.079 my family hiden um but what happened was 01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:49.160 she ran away down the street without 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:55.400 telling anyone where she was going when she was about you know four or something 01:03:52.319 --> 01:03:57.839 like that and I think it was just one of 01:03:55.400 --> 01:04:03.079 those I don't know what else to do 01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:04.960 um do not do that and to her to this day 01:04:03.079 --> 01:04:10.400 she still remembers the incident and never did that again so I don't know 01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:13.559 this isn't parenting tips I don't I have no problem with my what my parents did 01:04:12.160 --> 01:04:16.520 but then at the same time my brother and I both like played football and like 01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:20.720 getting hit with something really wasn't that big of a deal and I have no problem 01:04:18.359 --> 01:04:24.200 with what my parents did with that said I've never hit my kids I don't plan to 01:04:22.200 --> 01:04:29.839 hit my kids I don't think it's the best way to I don't think it's the best way 01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:31.599 to reinforce the correct behavior um 01:04:29.839 --> 01:04:34.839 yeah I guess like I'm not judging I'm saying I don't disagree with what my 01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:37.640 parents did it's not what I plan to do it's not how I train dogs I'm never 01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:43.559 going to have kids but it's not how I train dogs yeah some people train dogs 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:47.559 that way and I I don't like that so 01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:49.599 whatever I mean I don't know 01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:55.000 man yeah I don't know the thing about pain is it's Nature's teacher that is 01:04:52.240 --> 01:04:58.880 for sure pain tells you you touch a hot stove element don't do that anymore with 01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:04.200 dogs I just but there's other ways to make them 01:05:01.520 --> 01:05:07.839 realize there's other forms of pain to well dogs are dogs are a little bit 01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:11.319 different because like with dogs there's there's a 01:05:08.720 --> 01:05:15.880 dominance thing yeah so you can like you know like it would be very common like I 01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:21.000 I had a dog when I was growing up and if he did something like really really way 01:05:18.319 --> 01:05:24.839 out of line then you know like if he was running after and trying to kill one of 01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:30.240 the chickens and I had to like catch him you know grab the Scruff of the neck 01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:36.480 grab around the neck don't choke but grab grab the neck look in the eye right 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:38.799 in his face no little Bop on the nose it 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:44.039 doesn't hurt but it tells him who's boss I have no problem with that but you 01:05:40.520 --> 01:05:45.559 never hurt a dog you can do like yeah 01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:51.000 like emotional stuff like getting right in his face and saying no it's going to make an awkward situation he'll be like 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:54.440 oh wow what was I doing the similar thing with anyways yeah but there's 01:05:53.119 --> 01:06:01.160 there's there's a lot of different ways to deal with this stuff and I don't think that pain is the right answer 01:05:58.640 --> 01:06:05.960 necessarily although I will say that the one animal that I have ever resorted to 01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:12.359 pain with is a cow they are actually too stupid to 01:06:09.200 --> 01:06:15.960 live it was the only way that I could 01:06:12.359 --> 01:06:18.599 move him like I'm talking I'm talking 01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:23.359 like like like I and he was big right he's a cow okay like I would get behind 01:06:21.680 --> 01:06:27.359 and I would push him as hard as I can I would I would pull I would have all my 01:06:25.319 --> 01:06:32.240 way and pushing as hard as I could on the ground on a halter on his head and 01:06:29.640 --> 01:06:32.240 it would just be 01:06:34.359 --> 01:06:40.799 like go ahead and try with that cow I 01:06:39.160 --> 01:06:44.520 would I would and I would even like I would even like push him with my foot on 01:06:42.680 --> 01:06:49.599 his butt like try to get him to move cuz once I got him moving he would go to his 01:06:46.359 --> 01:06:51.359 stall but he would refuse to move so it 01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:56.640 got to the point where I would actually have to kind of take a run at it and and 01:06:54.240 --> 01:07:01.119 and like push with my feet as hard as I could and then he would kind of go and 01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:03.799 then he would move just the stupidest the stupidest creature that I've ever 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:07.240 encountered I find it kind of interesting and I wonder like some 01:07:05.839 --> 01:07:13.160 psychologist has probably done some research on this and stuff but you 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:14.720 remember what you were doing where why 01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:18.480 all that kind of stuff I just remember breaking the thing I don't remember what 01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:23.400 I was doing I don't remember what I was being punished for I don't remember where it was I just remember the the 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:26.119 hairbrush breaking and being like yeah like I don't remember anything other 01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.799 than that at all I don't remember what I was doing 01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:34.480 where when why I don't know what age I was I don't even remember who was doing 01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:39.599 it like I don't remember which one was banking I have no idea that's 01:07:37.680 --> 01:07:44.599 hilarious not a clue all right well I think we've run 01:07:42.839 --> 01:07:48.160 out of time we didn't manage to cover a lot of topics today but you guys don't 01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:54.200 seem to care there's 7600 of you watching the show um number of armchair 01:07:52.160 --> 01:07:59.440 lawyers in twitch chat right now so so painful oh John wanted us to bring him 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:04.160 on you know what I actually am not gone come get me I have a babysitter at home 01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:09.160 I have to go if you want to continue the stream with John then that's cool but I 01:08:06.319 --> 01:08:13.520 actually have to peace okay um we should do an Afterparty then I will bring okay 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:18.850 sure so thanks for watching The W show guys we will see you again next week 01:08:15.319 --> 01:08:24.199 same bat Time same bat Channel 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:48.239 chist with me thank you for watching 01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.239 okay goodbye